From NBC's Carrie Dann:
Gov. Rick Perry on Wednesday night said President Barack Obama "grew up in a privileged way" and that America's foreign policy reputation has suffered because of the president's "mentality that he's the smartest guy in the room."
"It reveals to me that he grew up in a privileged way," Perry said of Obama when asked by host FOX News host Sean Hannity to comment on the president's recent comment that American business interests have been "lazy" in their approach to the global economy. "He never had to really work for anything."

Brian Snyder/Reuters
Republican presidential candidate and Texas Gov. Rick Perry answers a question from the audience Wednesday at a town hall campaign stop in Nashua, N.H., before the airing of his appearance on FOX News with Sean Hannity.
"This president has never felt that angst that they have in their heart," he added, referring to the nation's 14 million unemployed. "And I think he's always, when he has had problems, he's always pointed to somebody else and said it's their fault, not mine."
Obama's rise to the presidency was powered in part by his personal narrative as the son of a young white mother who was at times dependent on food stamps after her black husband deserted her. Obama later went on to become the first black president of the Harvard Law Review.
Perry, who grew up poor in rural Texas and frequently jokes about his poor college grades, added in his interview with Hannity that Obama's perceived intellect has contributed to the decline of the United States in its relationships with other nations.
"His thinking that he's the smartest guy in the room has hurt America around the world, particularly when it comes to foreign policy. And I think that mentality of 'I'm the smartest guy in the room and therefore it couldn't be my fault' is really hurting America. And we need a president who has been through their ups and downs in life, and understands what it's like to have to deal with the issues in our economy that we have today in America."


Perry joking about poor college grades. I'm shocked. The guy is so far from being the sharpest tool in the shed.
He did get one thing right though. President Obama does think he is smarter than everyone else. I'm not saying he is or isn't but he sure comes across that way to me.
Wherever the wind blows power and privilege there shall Perry be, dumping on whoever is in his way & blowing his story whichever way the wind blows.
The fact is along with circa 99% of Americans, President Barack Obama did not have a silver spoon growing up and neither did he have a father.
Perry was miffed and self-pitying on this occasion and his audience got an earful.
Perry suffers from poverty of truth, poverty of credibility.
And it is extremely doubtful that he knows what anyone else is thinking.
The dismal reality is that, even though he came from a single parent home dependant on food stamps to become the first black president of the United States, there are more than enough people on the right that will happily ignore this to believe this ridiculous crap that Perry is shoveling out. I will give him this: his experience moving bullsh!t around is a benefit to him now.
Curly and Larry have been out looking for their long lost brother. Oh there he is.
Perry doesn't have the horsepower to call Obama anything but Mr. President. Stay away from national politics Governer! They are toxic to you, just like sunlight and fresh air is to mold.
Forgive me, but I WANT my president to be, at least most of the time, the smartest person in the room!!!!! And I know I'm not alone. There are good reasons West Wing was so popular, and one of them was the amazing contrast between what we had at the time (GW Bush) and the fantasy President Bartlet that Aaron Sorkin served up each week. It wasn't just the liberal/conservative contrast.
Perry's comments translated into English: "What this country really needs is another idiot; and I am that idiot."
Just what we need, another Dubya. Texas politician's craniums seem to have a lot in common with their State... big, but mostly empty.
When are the republicans going to get it..............STUPID JUST ISN'T IN ANYMORE....we have seen what stupid gets us and smart and diplomatic is definitely the way to go..
STUPID and greedy got us into this mess and to get out of it we need smart and diplomatic...
THE DAYS OF THE PARTY OF NO ARE OVER...........we want and need a party that works on behalf of the interests of ALL the people and concentrates on that and not on their parties agenda...
Enough already....go home....President Obama has done a lot of forward motion considering the damage the republicans reaped upon the US and with the little and limited resources they left him to fix it all with.......
folks gave STUPID 8 years to prove how dumb we were for letting them get voted in and run the country into the ground now we need to give SMART 8 years to save us.......
man, I am so sick of people waving the banner that STUPID is a badge of honor and has any useful purpose in the successful running of our nation.....
STUPID IS STUPID, IT DOES NOT GET SMART JUST BECAUSE IT WORMS ITS WAY INTO PUBLIC OFFICE.
God help us if there are still enough really STUPID people out there to get another STUPID person elected to the most powerful office in our nation.
All stupid people should just move to Texas and secede with Perry..
see ya!
Another fine example of where the Tea Party nut cases want to take America--to the idiot bin!! That's why they want to abolish the Dept. of Education and fire all teachers. We can then become as bright as Rick, Cain, Bachmann and Palin. These four can form a quartet and call themselves the "Babbling Nincompoops."
Let’s all practice: OOOPPS! It’s a joke, just a joke… What I meant to say was….. You can’t take everything I say serious?!? OOHHH, I remember now....nooo, wasn’t that one….. HEY!! I’ve got too many things swirling in my head!
By the way, what do Slick-Willie and Can’t-remember-Cain have in common? They both wished that those darned bitches would keep their mouths shut.
THE most ignorant statements made to date by one Rick Perry. I wonder, how low CAN Perry go in his efforts to salvage his ego and campaign? His falling popularity is self-imposed. . .he's the architect of his own demise. With an ego that would permit him to make statements about President Obama when it is well known Obama's child/teen years were far, FAR from "privileged", I dare say we haven't seen the worst of Rick Perry just yet. This guy just doesn't know when to quit. . .even when he's kicked his OWN arse all over the place. I don't know what mirror you peer into each day while combing you hairs, Rick, but it's been lying to you, Dawg! GOOD GRIEF!
Parac,
Did Obama ever release his college records? No. I wonder why.
Mike--did Sarah Palin ever release her college records and explain why she went through five (or was it six) colleges in five (or was it six) years?
Her full college records, I mean--the ones that would show whether or not there was a pending academic misconduct charge that was dropped every time she switched colleges? Do we know her grades? Do we know why she got the bogus communication degree via correspondence--were they just trying to get rid of her?
Obama doesn't need to release his undergraduate records--one cannot get admitted to Ivy League schools (except with a probationary status, and that probably would have been noted somewhere) unless one is quite an intelligent person. If he had done a bad job at the law review, that would again be apparent to everyone. When a person performs on a high level, no one asks about the college scores nor is it common for people's transcripts to be shown to anyone who isn't hiring.
Palin, on the other hand, continues to pursue jobs which don't involve turning over a transcript. What do you want to bet that the transcripts would be extremely unflattering--as unflattering as her inability to speak in Standard American English, to think critically, to respond to questions that she doesn't have a prepared answer for, etc.
The Tea Party trick of insisting that everyone else in the world has to support their every claim and everyone else in the world has to expose their every piece of documentation--or everyone else's opinions are unfounded and there is something they are trying to hide--while simultaneously failing to provide any support for their own opinions or to be open about what they are doing is really hilarious.
Maybe Tea Party types are stupid enough to simultaneously believe that everyone else has to support their opinions--but they don't--and everyone else has to make their entire lives fully open--but they don't (not even to register their guns) . . . but not a lot of other people are stupid enough not to understand that a principle applies to everyone.
Perry apparently has such low grades that everyone knows about it--he has to laugh it off. It doesn't mean that he is an idiot--it could just mean that he is a lazy, anti-intellectual (like Bush--who isn't stupid, just intellectually lazy). Perry does a very bad, really transparent, impersonation of Bush. His campaign materials are very bad, really transparent, efforts to imitate George Wallace (from the coloring, to the poses, to backgrounds and slogans).
What I don't like about Perry is that he is an empty vessel into which the rich people pour their wishes--and he toadies to them--and the campaign advisors pour their strategies. Perry is like the Man of 1000 faces--and all of them ugly.
It's nice how MSN spins this so that the libs have something to bash. I through enjoy the comments about Perry but where are the comments of outrage from the libs about Obama's lack of hardship. He went to school in Hawaii and went to Princeton and the Harvard...all through the influence of his grandparents.
Hey Debbie, it's nice that you needed to take a brake from Hufffpo to attempt to read something like news...however; ao a little hard research about how many bills have been signed by the House and that is as far as they got. The Party of no is in the white house, Obama doesn't want anything to jeopardize his ability to get reelected. He is hedging on this through next year that Congress will not be able to get anything done.
As for Rick Perry, he seems to be saying what everyone is afraid to say since he knows his nomination is out the door.
HEY CONFUSED...YOU NAME IS PRIME SINCE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TEA PARTY WANTS TO DO WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION!!!!
Let me "educate you", in basic and simple terms, why should the Federal Government be given money that the state and counties take already for their school districts. We do NOT have a standard guideline from the DOE on how every person should be educated....SO WHY THE F*** ARE THEY EVEN THERE. It's like throwing money down a pit to see how far it will go. It is a useless bureaucratic ponzi scheme created to look like a politician cared about the education of our youth. Nothing more.
As for your other comment, THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATIONS DOESN'T HIRE TEACHERS SO HOW CAN THEY GET FIRED??????????
Hey beanathome...Sarah Palin isn't President, why can we not see what our President wrote on his Thesis?
As for your claim that the Tea Party wants everyone to explain everything that happened in their past...
POT MEET KETTLE, except that the left have ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN running their ideology. Where was the vetting of Obama like this when he was running for President? Where were the questions about the potentially shady individuals in his past while he was running for President, his gaffes, misstatements...Chris Matthews was to worried about the funny feeling running up his leg instead of asking real questions that some Americans might want answers to.
You people on the left live a double standard...at least I want to hear about all the candidates, including their flaws and make an educated decision on which candidate WILL replace Obama and his FAILED policies that have gotten us NOWHERE in the last 3 years. Even when he had a MAJORITY IN CONGRESS, he passed what no one wants (Obama Care) and passed nothing that we needed to stimulate the economy...except a one month uptick due to Obama money.
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What does matter it if the Presidents life wasn't as hard as Perry's would have liked?.........it would appear the President worked pretty darn hard for his education........a good education and leadership skills should be something good, right?...
and the republicans are the party of no because all they do is filibuster and present plans that are unfunded or work against the economy......in other words instead of a simple majority to pass something (that is 49-51) filibustering makes it a requirement that 60 votes are needed.............in all of the US history filibustering has never been used to the extent the republicans are using now.............it is a stall and kill tactic.....remember Mitch McConnell telling the world that their only priority from the day after the elections in 2010 was to get the President out of the white house?...what better way than to make sure nothing gets done to help the economy on the Presidents watch (courtesy of the republicans)....forget that did you?
why do you want to support tax breaks for the uber rich?............you like giving more or your paycheck in taxes than them?
and please tell me what Perry is trying to say that everyone else wants to say but won't..................that the Presidents life wasn't hard enough to suit Perry, that the President grew up in Hawaii and went to some great schools....who cares if his grandparents helped him...George W. got in and was allowed to graduate because of HIS DADDY. What Perry is saying has nothing to do with anything, it is no better than grade school children picking at each other because one has a parent who is a janitor and one has a parent that is a movie star....................where we live, who are family are, where we go to school is less important than the good acts we do once we are an adult in society...........
Perry puts people to death in Texas, he reduces the help for the elderly for medicare, he reduced the medical help to children, he would take away a woman's right to make decisions about her own body, he out and out lies during this campaign, he acted high during a nationally televised speech and appears not to know what he is talking about...............now minus the schooling and where he grew up and who his family were and how they helped him, Perry's conduct and what he does speaks volumes as to his ability to lead and care for a nation.
It is like comparing apples to oranges to compare Perry to the President....Perry will lose every time.
The republicans have no person of worth or character to run on their ticket for President............it is shameful that they stoop to attacking a persons rearing, education and family instead of standing on the issues...........
what a bunch of unqualified scmucks who are making a mockery out of our political system and the race for the Presidency.
you left out Fox..Oh, thats right they run thr right ideology.. Get a clue..
Intelligience scares the Tpubs, because they don't understand inttelgience and do not value it. That's why they want to get rid of the Dept. of Ed. Perry keeps showing his lack of intelligience, why can't his handlers explain it to him?
Hey, Sarge—
President Obama was president and editor of the Harvard Law Review, a publication that is in the public domain. You can see Obama's work in back issues of the Review.
Regarding Obama's alleged lack of hardship while growing up, most would consider being raised by a single mother, on food stamps part of the time, not exactly in the top one percent.
Several members of my family are lawyers; most applied to Harvard Law School; only one got in. Admission is intensely competitive—a combination of extremely high academic achievement (median GPA 3.85 for admitted students) and a top LSAT score (median 173 for students admitted in 2011) are needed even to be considered.
If you're in a room with a bunch of people, and one of them is a Harvard Law graduate (New York Bar pass rate 97.1 percent v. 77 percent overall), chances indeed are he or she is the smartest in the room.
perry is from the hood, he knows
-i was born a poor black child-
America's foreign policy reputation has suffered because of the president's "mentality that he's the smartest guy in the room
When the 3 stooges are in the room -Perry, Cain and Gingrich.-He DEFINITELY is the smartest guy in the room.
Oh my God, are these Republicans & Teaparty for real, first we have Perry who can't remember anything, then we have Mr 999 who has no idea about foreign policies and to top it all if he is a womanizer, now we have Gringrich who was a lobbyist for Freddie Mac. Lets not forget Mr. Flip Flop Romney, Bachmann well do I need to say anymore. Boy what a great bunch of candidates, can't wait to see who wins.
What Perry doesn't get is that President Obama IS the smartest guy in the room, ...almost any room ...anywhere ...anytime! He graduated Columbia University with a Bachelor of Arts in political science with a specialty in international relations, then graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School with a doctor of Juris Prudence. He was also President of the Harvard Law Review. He taught Constitutional Law for 12 years at the University of Chicago.
Mr. Perry can call Mr. Obama's life privileged, if he so chooses, and he can say that Mr. Obama didn't have to work for his successes. Any arrogant fool can say anything about anyone, but that doesn't make any of it true. He is entitled to his opinion, but he is not entitled to his own facts.
All Mr. Perry's words reveal is his own ignorance and lack of fitness for high public office. Go back to Texas, Mr. Perry. You are embarrassing yourself, your state and our nation.
Individuals like Perry offer reasons why this country's so screwed up. With his poor stage performances, how the hell did he become governor? For real.
It's time for Perry to have a book/video/Constitution tour to drum up business like Palin and Gingrich. Don't "bring it!" Rick - milk it!
When President Obama is standing in the room with the Repub/TP candidates
he is the smartest man in the room!!
Here's Perry's history from wikipedia:
And from there he went on to be a pilot in the service. How you get to be a pilot with a 2.5 GPA is beyond me.
I swear at one time I heard Perry say he was the son of a sharecropper. Is this guy delusional or what????? He's going to know pain when he comes back to TX and doesn't get re-elected.
Say what! A 2.5 GPA. That explains it all, the reason he's criticizing President Obama's intelligence. Believing someone is better than your are and wanting to be like Mike but lack competency to do so stimulates jealousy. I should have known.
Two points here:
"he's always pointed to somebody else and said it's their fault, not mine." In other words "We know what Bush left him ... but lets forget OUR mistake!
"Perry, who grew up poor in rural Texas and frequently jokes about his poor college grades" It ain't funny Perry!!!!
One thing is for sure "Perry will never be considered the brightest bulb in the room"
Rico, your post made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Guess which prior president was also elected a social secretary, was a yell leader and finished college with a C+ grade average? Need a hint or two?
*Also from Texas ... and
*Also as dumb as a bag of rocks
(no offense intended to bags of rocks) :-)
" He went to school in Hawaii"
Yes, some people LIVE there; it's not all vacationers there.
" and went to Princeton and the Harvard...all through the influence of his grandparents."
No, actually he went to Columbia and Harvard, and he went on SCHOLARSHIP; you know, those things they give to smart people who have financial need.
For $100 on Name that Dumb President, I'm going to go with George W. Bush. Do I win?
DING, DING, DING, DING. Ann is the winner!
But actually, come to think of it, when the subject is George W. Bush (and now Rick Perry) ... there really are no winners, and everybody loses.
sigh :-(
On a side note,did he ever figure out that 3rd Dept. he wants to rid us of the wasteful use of? If he can't remember 3 things soooo important to him during a dam debate,WTF would he do during a time of crisis? Accidentally invade Canada? Sheesh. 4% increase in tAXEs,not 100% increase in ignorance in tEXAs.
Wow, you people are missing the point. Perry was not saying anything about intelligence, he was talking of arrogance.
When you think you're the smartest person in the room, you limit the options to yours only, which are likely biased in one form or fashion. When this arrogance takes hold, you are not a leader, but the tyranical boss that people hate.
Well, that's your interpretation (however if you read the several hundred posts here you won't find anyone else so far that sees it that way). However, if anyone knows about arrogance it is Rick Perry. I'll give you that.
You people? Mmm. Perry chose to talk about arrogance and not intelligence because Perry is greatly lacking in this department.
Or when you think you're the smartest person in room it's because you conducted an assessment of all others in the room and after doing so you realize you are.
Perhaps it's not arrogance and simply confidence in oneself. People tend to confuse the two. Arrogance is what drove this country into two fake wars. Let's not get it twisted.
I would admit Obama grew up different than us, but not privileged. He spent his formative years in third world counties, not the US. His attitude is really quite poor, as I do agree with Perry concerning Obama's, "it's always someone elses fault." It's not. I hope our next President will be someone who is in touch with America and Americans. Can't say that about our current President. That lack of understanding has hurt us significantly.
Since when has Perry been with the President in such a manner to make the determination that he thinks he is the smartest guy in the room?
I remember the righties not so long ago saying that the potus would be useless without his advisors and how he's totally dependent on them.
Which is it? Smartest guy in room? Or takes advisement?
What's even worse is when you KNOW you aren't the smartest person in the room and yet you insist to everyone in the room that you are either "with us or against us". It's when you insist it's "my way or the highway". It's when you embrace anti-intellectualism and force an issue contrary to logic or sound reason and then call that leadership. Obama's approach to compromise and logic in trying to negotiate serious problems with other parties is a thousand fold better than the former GOP administration. Perry's comments and point on this topic is once again a load of BS.
This is just hillarious, asking for Sarah Palin's college records. For goodness sake she isn't running for anything. Wondering why no one asks/cares about Obama's college records, which by the way he refuses to release.
BO graduated magna cum laude... which is all you really need to know if you are concerned about his grades and GPA.
If you don't know what magna cum laude means, you obviously do not have a very good education yourself.
Parac..
I think that was his point....truthfully. That it takes a committee with a sound leader to direct this great country. Not a committee of one, self-promoted, super intellect. But then Obama has proven that he is truly not the sharpest tool in the shed and certainly not leading to any great example of democracy or to the best interest of the entire Republic. He has declared half of us the enemy after all.
There is no question that he is a man of privilege raised in the home of a banker. If his mother, while in her family home took, food stamps she proved herself to be an opportunist not poor. Obama's grandmother was well connected within her local Democrat pary. There is no question that he was a man of privilege and disingenuous every time he cries that he was raised by a single mother....he was raised by a great many people with a broad range of experience...it is just pathetic when he picks and chooses what to promote and denounce based on his audience.
Rick Perry Is Dead! ....... He Died From "Foot In Mouth Disease!
~~~~~~~~~RIP Governor Perry~~~~~~~~
Obama grew up the son and stepson of a Muslim father and an atheist mother, and he spent most of his life in a congregation led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I'm not an Obama supporter, but I hope he has risen, to some degree, above all of this.
300+ million people in this great land and these are the handful of idiots we get to choose from when electing a president? We are screwing ourselves.
If by "privileged," Perry meant that Obama was raised in a home where education and public service were valued, that treating others with respect was the norm, and that taking responsibility for not only one's self but for others less fortunate was taught, then yes, indeed Obama was raised in a priviledged environment.
Obama was raised in the United States of America, where all children, no matter their financial circumstances. are supposed to be granted the opportunity for a decent education and the chance to make something of themselves. Obama took advantage of that opportunity and got a fine education. He earned the right to be President all by himself.
Anyone who thinks our country would be better off with a President who can't handle the intellectual complexities required of that position, please don't vote. Please, spare us from another idiot in the White House.
I surely would like to have a president that seems to be smart than one that has proved to be dumb or a candidate that foolishly is proud of his poor grades.
Also, Obama is not black, he is mixed, a mulatto indeed, there is a 50% of white genes running through his body. I know for many racists people if you are not 100% white than you are black, but that doesn't change the fact his mother was white.
Stupid is the new smart. Perry's ill-informed politically-stupid remarks are actually the most genius politicking in the history of everything and he will be bestowed King of the entire Universe by the end of the week. It's so brilliant it's practically witless!
For the most part, Obama was raised by his grandmother, in Hawaii, and she was Vice President of the Bank of Hawaii...that's poor?
Sarah Palin took more than the usual amount of years to complete college because she worked her way through college, and had to take time off to work and save money to return to school. She had to do it "piecemeal" as she could afford..I think they call that tenacity.
Finally...the race card...Where would a discussion on Obama be without it?
LOL Robert y'all are funny. Have to have some laughter in this time of history.
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Obama grew up the son and stepson of a Muslim father and an atheist mother, and he spent most of his life in a congregation led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I'm not an Obama supporter, but I hope he has risen, to some degree, above all of this
Risen above what? Because his family didn't look like the Cleavers and he attended a church you appear to be questioning...he somehow belonged to a "lower level" ??
JK....you'll have to excuse everyone in this country who doesn't measure up....we're just dealing with hand we were dealt. Excuse us....
the president's "mentality that he's the smartest guy in the room."
So if he's as smart as he'd like us to think he is, why doesn't he release his SAT scores so we can see for ourselves? I suspect that people would be shocked to find he has a mediocre IQ. We know the scores for all other recent Presidents and candidates, but Obama continues to hide his.
One point is clear - His score was not high enough to get into an Ivy League school from High School, even with Affirmative Action, so he had go to lessor colleges and then transfer. With Affirmative Action, he could have scored 20% BELOW Bush and still get in, but he obviously didn't.
Obama has even admitted needing Affirmative Action to get where he did in college.
PS - Bush's IQ (based on his SAT) was about 125, close to being eligible to join Mensa (about 130), and higher than John Kerry and John F. Kennedy (119).
Aggie, please spare us. Palin is so not in the same league with Obama in terms of intelligence, integrity, capability, or by any other measure of what it takes to be the leader of this country.
Palin's family life is a train wreck. She took her children out of school and dragged them around the country on the campaign trail. She put her unmarried pregnant 17-year-old daughter up on stage in front of the world. Her emphasis for her own children has clearly not been on education. (Hint: it's $$$) Her family values are not my family values.
If that is really what you want for our country, please do us a favor and move to Alaska. Or do you already live there?
"Obama didn't grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth..." What a joke! If that is the case then how did he end up at Harvard? Oh I forgot all of those foodstamps went towards his tuition. Get a clue. If this were true then there would be no argument for the 99%'s because he broke through the social ranks through hard work and achieved the American dream. Wake up!
I dont see Obama as arrogant. then again, im a democrat.
So perhaps, I dont know....maybe just maybe, if you're a republican...you're judgement is a tad clouded on this subject?
and i'd hate to go direct to the obvious, but is perhaps those who THINK Obama is arrogant because he's smart, have anything to do with feeling a tad uncomfortable with a REALLY INTELLIGENT BLACK MAN who's not afraid to be confident about his intellect?
I dont see any reason why Obama should "dumb it down" so that 1/2 of America can understand him...sadly, I believe 1/2 of America is should SMARTEN UP so that it's not just our president who can deliver and understand speeches that are at a 10th grade level.
Seriously, it's quite sad that our president has to stupid-up his speeches so most of you will get what he's saying...it's not that his topics are complicated, it's that most of you think BIG WORDS = (wait for it....) ARROGANT.
I DONT WANT MY PRESIDENT TO BEHAVE LIKE A TEXAS REPUBLICAN SIMPLY SO THAT THOSE AROUND HIM DONT FEEL STUPID - HOW DOES THAT MAKE AMERICA BETTER? SERIOUSLY...GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT.
WOULD THE PLACE YOU WORK BE BETTER IF THE OWNER WAS THE DUMBEST PERSON IN THE ROOM, OR SMARTEST PERSON IN THE ROOM?
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Ask yourself how W got into Yale and the Skull and Bones.
Obama went to Harvard because he is exceptional. Exceptional doesn't mean high grades.
Mr. Perry, you make "Dubya" look like fu@king Einstein compared to yourself. The fact that people put such an idiot in charge of their state is very telling in how stupid Texans are.
When did stupidity become a virture in America? I want my president to be the smartest person in the room. I want an exceptional free education for every American (and I'm willing to pay my taxes for it). I want people to be able to think for themselves. I want America to be the leaders in technology, medicine and the arts again.
Well Lori - if you want your President to be the smartest person in the room, you better not vote for Obama in the next election. Arrogance does not equal intelligence. Nor does being a good orator when a teleprompter is present.
weewilliewinkie
perry is from the hood, he knows
-i was born a poor black child-
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........Hmmmm, is this kind of like Steve Martin in "The Jerk"?
Has Obama been to all 58 states yet? (“I've now been in 57 states—I think one left to go.'')
Does Obama still see dead people? ("On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today.")
Is it still 2008? (During a trip to London’s Westminster Abbey, President Obama signed the guest book and dated it 24 May 2008. Oops. It was 2011.)
Does Obama know the difference between 12 and 10,000? (After a devastating tornado hit Kansas, Obama discussed the tragedy without help from a teleprompter, saying, ''In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died—an entire town destroyed.'' He was only off by 9,988 as the twister killed 12 people.)
Does Obama know whether he is Christian or a Muslim? (“What I was suggesting—you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,” before Stephanopoulos jumped in to help, saying ''your Christian faith.”)
Please, we already have too many inefficiencies in our health care system without Obamacare. “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.”
Kumar, wow no Liberal rebuttal, the silence is deafening. Excellent post.
Ha, there are those that have and those that have not, Obama was fortunate, see you can't create Smart, you have to be smart to start with, So Perry has nothing to worry about, maybe that's why I've always felt that people that spend to much time getting educated have a learning disability ..... LMAO
Let's see....the smartest man in the room has shown us:
He thinks Hawaii is in Asia
He thinks the US has 57 states and he's visited all of them
He can't remember how old his own daughter is
He can't remember what year it is when signing guest books
He thinks the Navy has 'corpse' men
He can't speak in whole intelligible sentences without a teleprompter
etc etc I could go on indefinitely
Yep Obama is definitely the smartest man in the room...as long as that room only has Joe Biden and the rest of his idiot democrat minions in it
To Sue ... your residency in Illinois is not nearly so important as how it is you usually vote and what your political views are. Just living somewhere is not relevant information. What your general political views are are.
Hmmmm....debating a useless answer, by a more useless conservative, asked by the most useless, biggest crybaby whiner to ever sit in an anchor's chair, on a useless, worthless, fact distorting, outright lying news service like Faux?
Roadhouse Blues
Exactly like that. Well, except for the Steve Martin part.
OK, let me get this straight... if Obama, or anyone, factually points to the sources of our current economic problems, which are cutting the taxes, then going to war, the passing Medicare drug benefit, real estate bubble, bank collapse, bank bailout, and employers hoarding cash and not giving raises to employees, all of which occurred prior to Obama becoming President, they get criticized? Granted, there have been a few mistakes in the last three years, but they didn't create the real problems we face.
Might be John Mack if all the things you posted were factual. That's the basic problem. Not all are factual. Nor, by the way, you didn't list all the things Obama has done, or supported that made things worse than they were when he took office. If he's going to be factual, shouldn't it be 100% factual? Don't see him taking any responsibility for the things he's done or supported that made things even worse. In contrast, he wants to repeat or even go farther down that road of mistakes. That doesn't tell me he is being honest with himself, let alone America.
Kumar - you really went there??? Really?????
"This is my maiden voyage. My first speech since I was the president of the United States and I couldn't think of a better place to give it than Calgary, Canada." --George W. Bush, as reported by the Associated Press, Calgary, Canada, March 17, 2009
"I'm going to put people in my place, so when the history of this administration is written at least there's an authoritarian voice saying exactly what happened." --George W. Bush, on what he hopes to accomplish with his memoir, as reported by the Associated Press, Calgary, Canada, March 17, 2009
"One of the very difficult parts of the decision I made on the financial crisis was to use hardworking people's money to help prevent there to be a crisis." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009
"I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009
"In terms of the economy, look, I inherited a recession, I am ending on a recession." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009
"I guess it's OK to call the secretary of education here 'buddy.' That means friend." --George W. Bush, Philadelphia, Jan. 8, 2009
"So I analyzed that and decided I didn't want to be the president during a depression greater than the Great Depression, or the beginning of a depression greater than the Great Depression." --George W. Bush, Washington D.C., Dec. 18, 2008
"People say, well, do you ever hear any other voices other than, like, a few people? Of course I do." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2008
"I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008
"You know, I'm the President during this period of time, but I think when the history of this period is written, people will realize a lot of the decisions that were made on Wall Street took place over a decade or so, before I arrived in President, during I arrived in President." --George W. Bush, ABC News interview, Dec. 1, 2008
"I've been in the Bible every day since I've been the president." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Nov. 12, 2008
"He was a great father before politics, a great father during politics and a great father after politics." --George W. Bush, on his father, George H.W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Nov. 12, 2008
"Yesterday, you made note of my -- the lack of my talent when it came to dancing. But nevertheless, I want you to know I danced with joy. And no question Liberia has gone through very difficult times." --George W. Bush, speaking with the president of Liberia, Washington, D.C., Oct. 22, 2008
"I want to share with you an interesting program -- for two reasons, one, it's interesting, and two, my wife thought of it -- or has actually been involved with it; she didn't think of it. But she thought of it for this speech." --George W. Bush, discussing a company that improves access to clean water in Africa, Washington D.C., Oct. 21, 2008
"This thaw -- took a while to thaw, it's going to take a while to unthaw." --George W. Bush, on liquidity in the markets, Alexandria, La., Oct. 20, 2008
"I didn't grow up in the ocean -- as a matter of fact -- near the ocean -- I grew up in the desert. Therefore, it was a pleasant contrast to see the ocean. And I particularly like it when I'm fishing." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 26, 2008
"Anyone engaging in illegal financial transactions will be caught and persecuted." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2008
"We're fixing to go down to Galveston and obviously are going to see a devastated part of this fantastic state." --George W. Bush, Houston, Sept. 16, 2008
"The people in Louisiana must know that all across our country there's a lot of prayer -- prayer for those whose lives have been turned upside down. And I'm one of them." --George W. Bush, Baton Rouge, La., Sept. 3, 2008
"First of all, I don't see America having problems." --George W. Bush, interview with Bob Costas at the 2008 Olympics, Beijing, China, Aug. 10, 2008
And this is just a SMALL sampling!!!!
@the OP -
So to you, Obama seems to think he's the smartest guy in the room. How many of the other guys think they're the smartest in the room?
Do you think that of yourself? Well, probably not. And you're right about that part.
W Goin-
I'm sorry. I missed where Bush was running for President in 2012. Oh that's right. He isn't. That makes your post totally irrelevant.
It's Obama that the left is rediculously holding up as the smartest man ever and the template for all future presidents.
Perry just like the Bushbag that preceded him in the Texas Governor office managed to serve in the air force and never in combat during the longest war in US history. I'd call that privileged!
"He spent his formative years in third world counties"
Um, no. He lived in Indonesia (1 country only) only ages 6-10. Before that, he lived in Hawaii. After that, until age 18, Hawaii. The California for undergrad. Then Boston for law school.
W. Goin, thanks for an amusing trip down memory lane. Bush missed his true calling--he should have been the doofus in Hollywood comedies. You left out my favorite one:
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." -George W. Bush
Sure, we all trip over our words sometimes, but that was Bush's standard way of speaking. His arrogance and ignorance made America the laughing stock of the world and cost us a lot of goodwill. That situation has been completely reversed by Barack Obama and his administration in less than three years. We now have a President the world admires and respects, so why would we want to go back to the days of a cowboy in the White House?
Rick Perry, stay in Texas.
In regards to G W Bush IQ:
The non-partisan researchers who evaluated the twelve presidents determined that the six Republican presidents for the past 50 years had an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest IQ, at 155. President G. W. Bush was rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91. The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an average of 156, with President Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182. President Lyndon B. Johnson was rated the lowest of all the Democrats with an IQ of 126. The margin of error is plus or minus five percent. This study was initiated on February 13, 2001 and completed on June 17, 2001. This study validated the widespread feeling of people about the sitting president. President Bush was rated low because of his inability to command the English language, his lack of any scholarly achievements, and an absence of anything authored by him that would reflect an intellectual effort." -- "Jennifer Borenstein, Baskerville News Service, 6/28/01
Now this sounds more like the TRUTH.
We already have an idiot for a president as evident by his disastrous performance. He was gifted with a “snake oil salesman” like silver tongue, and far too many of the gullible equate “slick talk” with intelligence.
Obama did indeed grow up in a privileged way and accordingly, had the best of everything and never had to hold an actual job. The end result is someone with no qualifications or experience at running anything except his mouth, as long as he’s surrounded by Teleprompters.
Rico 1.77
More propaganda from the gullible to the gullible. This IQ research you so dearly allude to was debunked as complete hoax attributed to the (fictitious) Lovenstein Institute. The reality is that virtually all of the presidents mentioned have lower IQ’s than listed. The aim of this propaganda was to convey the notion that democratic presidents were somehow more intelligent than most of the republican presidents.
However bogus, those that have ideologically crippled brains will latch onto this as irrefutable truth. For them, there is no redemption.
This is old news as this propaganda was debunked way back in 2001 but resurfaces every once in a while.
kaybeetoys.....Just WHERE in my post re Sarah Palin did I say ANYTHING about Palin's intelligence vs. BO? Where did I say ANYTHING about wanting her to be President? I was addressing another person's comment about it taking her more years than normal to complete her education. I don't know why you are getting all riled, because Palin isn't even in the mix anymore. Really Mr. or Ms. you doth protest too much over nothing.
And just to annoy you further, you know NOTHING about the Palin's home/family life, or what arrangements they made for their childrens' education and/or travel. You'd have basher her either way...had she ignored her daughter because of the circumstances of her pregnancy.... Ooooo..bad, cold, unloving mother.. hiding her OWN daughter... And you KNOW that would have been the song and and dance if she hid Bristol. You would bash her either way. Admit it. Oh, wait..never mind....you don't have to. It's obvious.
You're beating a dead horse...get over Palin bashing. She's out of the race. You should be happy. I am.
He's right. I mean nobody would ever make the mistake of thinking that Rick Perry's "the smartest guy in the room". Even if he's alone, I'm pretty sure his shoelaces would have a higher IQ than he does.
How that's a positive qualification for a president, though, I do not understand.
How quickly some people forget (on purpose) that just 3 years ago Barack Hussein Obama has no experience at all. Heck! Even when BHO was in the Senate, he only worked slightly over 2 days per week.
I'm really curious as to what IQ has to do with experience. I think I'll take a former lack of experience (he's been president for going on 3 years now, so I'm sure he's got an idea of what he's doing), over a guy who can't even name the agencies he's going to cut.
and just how do you know he worked 2 days a week. Need facts to back up your statement. This isn't faux news
The shoelaces have a definite purpose, but who tied them for him?
Actually, Jimmy Dick doesn't have shoelaces. He wears cowboy boots festooned with a cannon and the words, "Come and take it."
Dear Rick Perry,
Do not attack this president on foreign policy. Between the somali pirates, mending relations with our allies, getting Osama, ending Gaddafi, getting al-Awliki and countless other legitimate terrorist, he is not vulnerable in this area. If you take him head on in foreign policy you will lose.
Signed,
Consultant
P.S. The bill is in the mail.
" just 3 years ago Barack Hussein Obama has no experience at all."
Really? Because I call years as a civil rights attorney, professor of constitutional law, state senator, and US senator, experience. But he wasn't governor of Texas, you're right.
Governor Perry is a mediocre white male whose privilege of white race has allowed him to achieve success far beyond his abilities. His suggestion that Obama is privileged in a white society that does not value blackness is as specious as most of his other positions. But, we know what he is doing. He is trying to negate Obama's stellar academic record which was achieved by hard work. He is trying to negate his presidential performance which has been successful due to his thoughtful approach.
Perry is a good old boy who is a charlatan at best.
hey! come on you people. Perry is the second smartest guy to run for president from texas in the past 15 years. Well...maybe ever?
Just because a guy failed speech class doesn't make him an idiot. A lot of people have a hard time expressing their ideas in public. Now, they can hide behind the internet in blogs, chat rooms, and even teleprompters. You should hear some of the few speeches when Obama was Sen. running for president that weren't scripted. Everyone "flubs" off the cuff.
"[Insert Republican Name] says [insert ridiculous ignorant political lie]".
They're just trying to get their face on the news now... desperate... pathetic.
And yet more evidence that Perry has gone beyond idiotic to batsh*t crazy.
Only someone as stupid as Perry would refer to the child of a young mother who was at times dependent on food stamps (after her husband deserted her) as "privileged."
It seems Perry is a bit chafed that a poor kid from a single parent family is not only light years brighter than Perry, but also grew up to become president despite the challenges.
These are nothing more than the final gasps of a dying campaign. He knows that he's dead in the water after letting slip the truth that Republican candidates only have a list of talking points which they are supposed to repeat ad nauseum...not something they actually have to think about or understand in any way. That's what advisers are for, right? Cain is following him right down the drain after all his issues with women and his Libya train wreck.
Dying campaigns, just like dying men, grasp at straws. At anything they can, hoping something will stick. That's the only explanation for attacking President Obama on foreign policy after all of his foreign policy wins (mentioned above but which include getting Bin Laden, supporting the uprising in Libya, and undoing all the damage caused by our previous President). As far as growing up privileged...that's another slip of truth from Republicans. People on food stamps are privileged in their minds, which is why they should pay more in taxes so the "job creators" can have tax breaks.
Mr. Perry...for the sake of your dignity (assuming you have any), please go off into a corner and let your campaign die quietly. Such stoicism would only improve your image at this point.
discussion: This isn't about forgetting a word or phrase once in a while...you may have missed it...but Perry couldn't even speak about the central reforms he's been RUNNING on...Now, he's so desperate to get anyone to take him seriously outside of Texas, he's going to compare who grew up poorer??? I guess the "hey I'm really, really dumb just like you, so I deserve your vote" isn't working so well for him any more.
Maybe if Rick Perry bothered to do a little more reading, he would have read Pres. Obama's biography (written in 1997) "Dreams from my Father"...he would realize that making a statement like that is idiotic.
But that's precisely my point. Gov. Perry is pandering to folks that don't read.
Birther's should also pick up a copy of the book also, to see how stupid THOSE allegations are.
I beg to differ on the issue of Mr. Obama's experience.....as a resident of the state of Illinois, he served only 54 days of his term as Senator....the rest was spent doing his community active thing and campaigning for a better job. Seems to be the story of his life, whatever his is charged to do, he is working at things other than those responsibilities to forward himself.
I don't know who's IQ is worse. Perry or Bush. Obama is a very well educated and intelligent man and how Perry thinks Obama was so priviledged is beyond me. the way I see he was priviledged was that he had an excellent mother and grandparents backing him up.
Talk about priviledge. Look at Romney and some of these other candidates. Never had to worry about money in their lives and they are so far out of touch with the common citizen here in America and how the rest of us have to live it's a joke. I don't want someone calling the shots for me who has had everything handed to them on a silver platter and thinks they are better than the rest of us. Newt is a good example.
Discussion123 - It's fine to not be hard on some average Joe who has to give a speech at a local charity event or something, but saying that it is not a big deal that a PUBLIC official cannot give a PUBLIC address for the life of him is a big deal. It shows he hasn't prepared what so ever for the position he is running for.
On another note, this whole down south Republican "he's too smart to run our country" thing is sickening. God forbid the President of the USA is the smartest man in the room at times. "Geez um, awe shucks, I guess I should talka like this fur ya" The only people that feel like he is talking down to them are people who already hate him for "hidden" reasons. The man in no way ever sounds like he thinks he is the smartest man in the room.
This is all typical Republican "mumbo jumbo" say whatever you want without it being close to true. Just like the new campaign ads saying Obama wants to raise taxes on the middle class. Then they throw up a bunch of misleading quotes showing Obama saying he wants taxes raised. One BIG PROBLEM with these ads, those quotes are from Obama talking about raising taxes on the top level income earners and big business'. Something the Republicans refuse to do. Always with the lies, lies and more lies.
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" - Eleanor Roosevelt
Maybe just maybe, it's not that Obama is arrogant about his intelligence, but rather that white christian republicans can't quite quantify the feelings of inferiority they are experiencing when around a really, really smart guy...who happens to be black.
CODE - Obama didnt grow up like us - CODE - he doesnt understand what WE understand, feel - CODE - He doesnt understand what our lives have been like - CODE - It's fine that he's smart, but why does he have to act like he is - END CODE
If only Obama would know his place, poor, uneducated and in the ghetto. How dare this NEGRO get educated and become president, and then shove the intelligence he stole from white people in our faces! How dare he be so arrogant as to let other people know he's smart, black people arent smart - biologically they are inferior!
Did I sum up Perry's sentiment about right?
Call me crazy, but I want my president to be the smartest person in the room...and everyone else cant tolerat that, they need to take some advice from Eleanor Roosevelt...
The blind worship of Obama is disgusting, you all sound like you would happily drop to your knees and pray to him.
Obama has done nothing for Main Street. His "stimulus" went to Wall Street, Banks, And Car companys. It didnt create any jobs NOR did it keep Unemployment below 8%, (I bet you forgot THAT little promise), Obama lined his re election coffers with the "Stimulus", and now wants to give America away to Mexico.
He cut Heating assistance by 60% so the poorest of the country would scream at the Repub Congress and demand they deal, He is NOT interested in anyone thats UNDER middle class, Even the ones that pay taxes.
Obama campaigned on "Save the Middle Class" Then did nothing to ease your burdens, you all say you are STILL paying too much in taxes, Just how has Obama "saved the Middle Class"? Hows that working out for you.
My only regret is that the Repubs dont have a serious challenge to this tool.
what they might be saying, is that this black president has gotten uppity. you know, speaking all coherent and using big words.
This is Perry's argument to elevate himself?
Name calling ? ? ?
Insults ? ? ?
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And on HANNITY ?
Seriously...talk about pandering.
The truth about obama has landed yet again!!!!! I see the usual parrot bloggers are out here insulting perry, but they dont seem to be disputing his claims. Hmmmmmm......... Thats a mystery!! I dont care whether perry makes it or not, but it is refreshing to see that the other candidates are calling obama what he really is, nothing but a cancer in the body of our nation, and all of his little puppet wannabes that do his bidding are the reason why this obamacancer was able to spread and destroy so much in such a short time. I hope obama enjoys living off the American people in 2012 because he will join the ranks of the unemployed. BTW: Big difference between being the smartest in the room and thinking your the smartest in the room. obama is the thinking he is the smart guy while wishing he was the smartest guy.
Biteme: what claims?? This is just idiotic...how many times and how many investigations about Obamas background have to be printed before you admit the 1/2 Black guy is actually the American son of a single mother who left him with his grandparents and who worked his way through life? Geez...if this were any REPUBLICAN politician, you'd be screaming about how smart and successful he is. You can't talk issues, you've got NO candidates who can finish a sentence AND have any ideas, so you just spew this nonsensical smear stuff. Ok, so he's smarter than you. A whole LOT of folks probably fit that bill and can actually recognize just what the 8 year GW debacle left us with. You'll just have to deal with it.
DrDrGimmetheNews
REALLY? You say Obama did years as a civil rights attorney? REALLY? On what planet? All he did here on this planet was be a "Community Organizer" in Chicago, you know orgainizing groups like the OWS and demanding more for those in public housing, getting food stamps, welfare, and all the other freebies that have been added behind the scenes over the years. Socialism personified in the effort that continues till today for him and others like him. REALLY!
Perry has just revealed himself to be the dumbest guy in the room. Of course, there's a method to his madness. He's pandering to the ignorant, the gullible and the misinformed like Biteme. He thinks, "I'm going to get the all the stupid people to vote for me." That will only be enough to make him Governor of Texas.
Rick Perry should concentrate how to be a good credible candidate with integrity, attacking another candidate about his personal life is sheer low class desperate act. Perry's knowledge on world affairs is nonexistence and full of nonsense, he stumbles on aired questionair. Perry has a more priviledged live, comfortable affluent neighborhood than Obama. Best for Perry to concentrate how to make USA better, show your ability crediblity and integrity and stop mudslinging personal attack. If Perry can't do it better drop out the race. Perry's comment is for sure the dumbest in USA., apparently Perry has not done a research on Obama before he talks. Keep on blowing hot air in desparation Perry you will nevert lead the pack
Radical1 - You do realize that the bailout of the American auto industry worked beyond initial hopes don't you??? OHHHH, you don't?!?! Yeah, so umm I will dumb it down for ya a little then, since you don't like "smart talking". The auto companies paid back all the money they borrowed, AND PAY ATTENTION to this part.......WITH INTEREST. What else did bailing them out do you ask???? Well it prevented 100s of thousands of other Americans from also being unemployed. One of the big 3 going out of business would have had a massive attack on our economy. The auto industry is directly connected to dozens of other industries.
Wake up people. The majority of the stimulus was not to create jobs, it was to save them from disappearing and it did that. Also, remember the first stimulus, that just threw money anywhere was inacted by Bush. You people want big business to create the jobs, not the government, but you want to cry that the government isn't creating jobs. Which is it?
So, we should vote for Perry because he will never be the smartest person in the room? That will help us in foreign relations? stop Iran from building nukes? realize peace in the Middle East? balance our trade deficit?
Really? WE should be that stupid?
On a side note,did he ever figure out that 3rd Dept. he wants to rid us of the wasteful use of? If he can't remember 3 things soooo important to him during a dam debate,WTF would he do during a time of crisis? Accidentally invade Canada? Sheesh. 4% increase in tAXEs,not 100% increase in ignorance in tEXAs.
Wow, and just when you think Perry couldn't be any dumber, he reveals a whole new level of stupid.
Well, stupid is as stupid does. I'm reminded of the Bugs Bunny line: "What a maroon."
Obama/Biden 2012
AP: You are certainly the pot calling the kettle black. I am not surprised to see that you are still bringing up bush as to why your precious obama is such a loser. You cant argue anything I said as you are to busy insulting me and rambling on with nonsense that has nothing to do with what I said. The whole "blame bush" thing is old and worn out and untrue. obama is at the helm and is sinking this ship due to his corrupt ways and his utter incompetence. The only one of us that needs to get over anything is you, and what you need to get over is the FACT that you are one of the people that supported the obamacancer to spread throughout our nation and destroy the integrity of the United States.
Has Obama been to all 58 states yet? (“I've now been in 57 states—I think one left to go.'')
Does Obama still see dead people? ("On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today.")
Is it still 2008? (During a trip to London’s Westminster Abbey, President Obama signed the guest book and dated it 24 May 2008. Oops. It was 2011.)
Does Obama know the difference between 12 and 10,000? (After a devastating tornado hit Kansas, Obama discussed the tragedy without help from a teleprompter, saying, ''In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died—an entire town destroyed.'' He was only off by 9,988 as the twister killed 12 people.)
Does Obama know whether he is Christian or a Muslim? (“What I was suggesting—you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,” before Stephanopoulos jumped in to help, saying ''your Christian faith.”)
Please, we already have too many inefficiencies in our health care system without Obamacare. “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.”
You people that hold onto Obama are FOOLS! Ignoring that he is a deceitful LIAR only shows that you love deceit yourselves. The number of morons and idiots that willing choose to ignore the facts about Obama and his actions evening proving the past facts can only mean you people love deception yourselves, and are deceived in your own lives.
And I am not a Republican, Fox News watcher, or whatever else you nuts love to call people. I hated George Bush's war mongering and SPENDING! We had not reason for the wars and no reason for the spending Bush did, but Obama has now spent more than 10 times what Bush did, and in only three years. So, the blame Bush stupidity does not wash with me or anyone with a brain.
I am a man with at least common sense enough to know a LIAR when I have heard one, and a DECEIVER that acts one way while he says another.
What I don't understand is how ANYONE can stick so close to their political party that they are willing to send our country and it's citizens further down the sh$t hole by voting in another 4 years of this train wreck! It simply boggles the mind. Americans are proving just how stupid they really are as the rest of the world laughs at us. Well, go ahead vote for your first bi-racial (I hope the history books get that right because he IS NOT black or the politically correct African American) president a second time, but please remember it won't happen again after that...by law he will be done and good riddance to bad rubbish!
Translation: "Barack Obama is a black kid who didn't grow up in the ghetto, so that makes him privileged. And his mama encouraged book learnin'. In my family, book learnin' was frowned upon, so the President's a lot smarter than me. I don't like that. Nope...don't like it t'all."
Radical 1 - Republicans not having a serious challenger to Obama is not the Republicans main problem...it's PR. The Republican party can no longer get away with lies about how "supply-side economics (trickle-down)" is the answer and we just need to get the government off the backs of corporations. The masters of the universe have had over 30 years to prove their theory...it doesn't work. Unless you are fortunate enough to be a member of the moneyed elite, trickle-down economics is slowly destroying your life, your family and their future. Until the Republican party can get in touch with it's roots and find a candidate like Teddy Roosevelt, they're doomed.
Kumar: Lie, grab at straws, and watch FOX News much?
Yakfitguy - no lies in my post. Obama actually said all of it!
Rick Perry may exist simply so that Will Ferrell can offer a stirring cinematic portrait of him. Stay classy, Rick!
Let's see....the smartest man in the room has shown us:
He thinks Hawaii is in Asia
He thinks the US has 57 states and he's visited all of them
He can't remember how old his own daughter is
He can't remember what year it is when signing guest books
He thinks the Navy has 'corpse' men
He can't speak in whole intelligible sentences without a teleprompter
etc etc I could go on indefinitely
Yep Obama is definitely the smartest man in the room...as long as that room only has Joe Biden and the rest of his idiot democrat minions in it
Prove it Kumar. Then tell me which one of your favorite GOP candidates has made less gaffes than this president.
Like I said, grabbing at straws. Nice bit of deflection too. If you're trying to say Obama is dumb like Perry, please save the comedy hour for later.
Yakfitguy - point is, EVERYONE makes gaffes, even your Messiah Obama. So lay off Perry!
Kumar - there's a world of difference between making a slip of the tongue in public speaking ( as President Obama - and everyone else in that position - have done), and not knowing what the H*LL you're talking about in the first place (Perry, Cain, Bachmann, et al).
Yakfitguy-
It wouldn't matter how much proof Kumar showed you proving he is correct....and he is correct. You are just another of the blind zealots that will give Obama a pass for the very things you claim disqualify others as President. You are just a glaring example of the hypocracy of the left and you will gladly follow your hero over the cliff. Have a nice fall.
" Obama has now spent more than 10 times what Bush did, and in only three years."
Um, no. Go here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals and add up what the total outlays were from 2002 (first year Bush was responsible for a federal budget) to 2009 (his last federal budget). You get approximately $20.8T. Now look at 2010 (Obama's first federal budget) and 2011 (estimate only as the FY only concluded 9/30/11) and you will get approximately $7.3T. In what universe is 7.3 "10 times more" than 20.8?
You say you're not a Fox watcher, but someone is feeding you false information.
We need moderators on this one....Seems that any ideology that is not Obama Ideology is being collapsed left and right.
this man has to have his head examined, not one thing he said makes any sense. He has lost his marbles. But then what Rep. nominee isn't half baked and the other half fried. They are a really bad joke to all voting republicans, they have their work cut out for them, I wouldn't want to be in that place. Obama will be re-elected over any of these stooges.
I don't care if Obama was privileged, or if he is the smartest guy in the room or not. I will judge Obama like me and fellow workers in the world are judged, performance. Then I will decide who will givethe best performance over the next 4 years. I don't care about who paid them what, where they worked, how privileged thay may or may not have been, I will listen to ideas and decide from there.
Former SGT,
I can see why the community would collapse your post.............you make too much sense! Liberals hate when that happens and they are usually the only ones on this website. I just read it because they make me laugh at their intolerance for anyone that does not pat them on the back and tell them how great their posts are. I am a conservative that doesn't think Obama is stupid. After all, he did outwit all those who voted for him.
Yes, he did, all 59 million of us. We're all stupid because we passed over a chance to elect a guy who promised us to continue all the economic and foreign policies of George W. Bush. After all, those were so successful. We were at peace around the world in 2008 and our economy was soaring with low unepmployment, the budget was balanced and our national debt was shrinking rapidly. Oh, wait. That was the situation in 2000, not 2008. Never mind....
Okay, Rick. Let me get this straight. Because President Obama is intelligent, he grew up with a special privilege that others (like a certain governor) lacked.
Here's a hint: Intelligence is not a bad thing.
Other than that, because his father deserted the family and his mother died when Barack was still young, Obama doesn't know what it's like to inherit millions and suffer as the son of a millionaire politician, the way Romney had to?
Yeah, I can see how Mitt must have suffered, especially back in the days when Alabama wouldn't let 'white' Mormons ride in the back of the bus or sit in the same restaurants or use the same restrooms as 'colored' people. How discriminatory was that!
When Perry speaks it is like he is having an out of body experience. He has completely lost touch with reality.
Just the other day he was claiming that, as president, he would make changes in the US Government that could only be accomplished by Constitutional amendments. It's like he is actually trying to look like an idiot.
Damn.
...and for those who are questioning the source of the president's assets, the following is from Bloomberg:
"The president’s tax return for 2010, released April 18, showed that he had a total adjusted gross income of $1.7 million and paid $453,770 in federal income taxes. Most of his income came from royalties paid on his books -- “Dreams From My Father,” a memoir, and “The Audacity of Hope,” which outlines his political philosophy.
Not only can Obama produce evidence of the source of his assets, he can demonstrate that he pays his taxes.
Other than lowering our deficit, The entire republican party is a complete joke, from leadership to these contenders. NEVER, in our complete history, has a political party looked so ignorant. The shame we feel and are being dragged through is intolerable. This republican party can go straight to hell!
HAHAH the republicans get Obama for "class warfare" then try to pull the "I'm just like you!" card.
JPSOTW: FYI, I'm not an Obama fan. That's your ignorant assumption. Furthermore, I've never given Obama a pass when he doesn't deserve one.
Why do you righties assume anyone who criticizes the clown car of GOP candidates somehow love Obama? How stupid can you be?
See CJ63914's comment at 2.45 for more insight.
It's all they have left to them, yak...
yak-
Oh yes you are an Obama fan. Plenty of your previous posts (not just the ones on this thread) have been defenses of Obama and attacks on anything Republican.
Apparently, your blind devotion makes you think he always deserves a pass.
WRONG. Please point to my posts that show I'm an Obama fan. News Flash: They're aren't any. There are some posts where I defend him against ridiculous attacks like yours though.
It's called being objective. Try it out.
Nothing could be more privileged than a biracial kid raised by a single mother until she she died young, and then being raised by his grandparents in Kansas. Such a privileged lifestyle, being considered an enviable situation for Rick Perry, makes him the dumbest guy in any room.
Yes, let's expand on how Obama got rich. Does any one really believe a nobody, just out of college, having never held a real job, with no managerial experience, could write a book that just every one had to read and buy?
A real priviledge to grow up with an absent father there Rick! What a BUFFOON!
Yes, let's expand on how Obama got rich. Does any one really believe a nobody, just out of college, having never held a real job, with no managerial experience, could write a book that just every one had to read and buy?
Mmmm, Intellegence?
J.K. Rowling wrote Harry Potter while on food stamps.
Just saying.....
You left out his mother was so rich and Barack Obama so privileged they needed food stamps to help them along. Oh yes and his mom or grandparents paid in full cash for his college education. And the dollars he earned as a community organizer paid off his and Michelle's debts. Don't Perry know when you point a finger at someone there are many more pointing right back at him? Perhaps in actuality Perry is describing his own lifestyle.
We know what he's attempting to do, but it's not working. We still have our eyes on you so stop trying to distract us Perry, the man who couldn't remember the three agencies he plan to ban when he becomes president of the delusional world he lives in.
Perry who?
Forrest Grump....
at this point 53 validations for this statement...
His mother didn't spend that many years raising him. He was not raised in Kansas, his Grandmother was the VP of a bank, his Grandparents were well connected in the DNC, he had his own years of failure but will not unseal the records for the voters, must have much to hide that has absolutely nothing to do with being biracial rather being ashamed of his own past.
Perry got this one right. The fact that 53 people voted this statement up is really very scary for our nation, provided those 53 observe their right to vote.
He was raised by his grandmother in Hawaii where she was VP of Bank of Hawaii. His mother may have died young, but he was left by her with his grandmother, his mother's mother while she travelled the world doing her thing.
What years of failure? You know deep down that President Obama is intelligent, hard working and successful. He overcame the odds which were against him, and rose to become President the good old American way. Hard work.
If you want to talk about arrogance and privilege, look at George W. Bush. One thing worse than being the smartest guy in the room is being the dumbest guy in the room and thinking you are smart.
txmom32 His grandmother took him at the age of 10 and although she was a VP at the Bank of Hawaii, they lived in a small apartment, under austerity and discipline.
Barack Obama was a brilliant college student, a brilliant lawyer and is a brilliant politician, a president that won't embarrass our country when opens his mouth.
Good one Forrest Grump. Excellent point!!
Romilio, To coin a Peter, Paul and Mary song, "Where has all the brilliance gone"?
Hemi: into the sink hole that GW left...it'll take a while to recover from that insane 8 year debacle, but it'll happen.
obama has had everything handed to him, probably by using the race card
romilio....then let him prove he was brilliant by opening all of his records...academic and juvenile...He is most certainly a child of privilege attending elite schools in Indonesia as well as eight years of elite private school in Hawaii...Sure mama on welfare made that happen, or was it all around her that she leached off of..husbands, family etc.....But then what can you say of a single mother who abandoned one of her children to her own parents while she sought her primary professional ambitions. The Hippocratic of his indictments for a medical system that she only turned to in the later stages of cancer, offering some bastardized sense of committment to an entire nations who suffers with high cancer rates. Why shouldn't the grandparents who raised him and paid for his success be acknowledged for their full contribution. It wasn't that he was raised by a single mother...he was raised by affluent Grandparents (the 1%'s of their day) who honestly had Barack's best interest at heart. We can accept that he had issues of abandonment that lead to his admitted drug abuse so why not expose the juvenile record? Why not release the records from Occidental....after all regardless of what they say he should be a role model, right? What about Columbia is so secretive? How did any young man back in the day amass tremendous student debt without even a part-time job...let alone a biracial student of that day and age? His Brilliance in Politics is rooted in obstruction of his opponents and well half truths and secrecy....As President...he only need to use the stroke of a pen to be an embarrassment but to add to that insult he actually declared that half of the nation is his enemy.
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I was a nobody, got a job, worked my way through college, started with no managerial experience like everyone else, did not write a book, but made good in the corporate world, saved my money, and, yes, "made it in this world"... still a "nobody" though.
So do I believe Obama could do what he did? Absolutely.
You people that tout the free market and unbounded opportunity sound pretty damn hypocritical when you criticize Obama's success as something to be questioned or as undeserving.
And, BTW, if you've been in corporate management lately, you would not be demanding THAT experience as a prerequisite to the presidency... our big-business leadership lost their ethics, long term views, and focus on their people many years ago. There are exceptions, but I've seen very few.
I do believe Romney (a great example of what I mean) believes corporations are people... let's hope he treats people better than the companies he bought and shredded. I don't trust him BECAUSE of his business experience.
Even if you accept Perry's statement that Obama grew up privileged, how does that make him any different than most of the politicians in Washington?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2011-11-15/congress-wealthy-1/51216626/1
The privileged aren't the only ones with the right to vote the rich into office. Some not-so privileged people had to have helped vote these people into office. Is he really saying the American public is too stupid to vote?
Txmom32, you are wayyyyy too obsessed with Obama and although his grandparents may have had wealth I still just do not think that Barrack Obama's story is type of privilege that Rick Perry is referring to... I think it is fair to say that even from your own description of Obama's story, he has definitely had his "ups and downs" - the very opposite of the point Perry was trying to make in saying Obama grew up "privileged"
Archmagi
J.K. Rowling wrote Harry Potter while on food stamps.
Just saying.....
Does England HAVE Food STamps? Just asking..........
AV all you need to do is read these comments to find out yes the American public is to stupid to vote
JoshL..I don't believe I am wayyyyy obsessed...just correcting some erroneous romanticized fantasy of the President of the United States. I find it ironic that Rick Perry is the one to bring this to light. Barack came form a DNC politically connected family and well married into a DNC politically connected family...there really is not great success story here... no one would dispute that fact if he were a politically connected Kennedy. It is no secret that his Grandparents were part of the elite democrats in their community. It is no secret that his in laws were connected to the DNC in Chicago. I'm just pointing to points of truth to dispel some romantic Camelot notion. He was Globally and Nationally affluent by the standards of the time.
Isn't that why we are afforded free speech and encouraged to seek information and exchange informed ideals in the American society?
TxMom "....then let him prove he was brilliant by opening all of his records...academic and juvenile...He is most certainly a child of privilege attending elite schools in Indonesia as well as eight years of elite private school in Hawaii...Sure mama on welfare made that happen, or was it all around her that she leached off of..husbands, family etc"
I wonder if you realize how hypocritical you are being?
Come on, stay consistent at least...I guess mama and grandma should have just ignored their son, so as not to give him PRIVELLEGES right?
I'd be happy with Obama's full record being released...I suspect he's human, and there's probably some stuff in there that proves it...I would imagine if I looked back and read some papers i wrote in high school and college, id be a tad embarrassed by the way I chose to see some things...are you saying YOU WOULDNT? perhaps you're less human and more god like...shall we bow to you?
".....But then what can you say of a single mother who abandoned one of her children to her own parents while she sought her primary professional ambitions."
I'd say she was behaving like every man in america who gets applauded for doing the exact same thing...and I'd question your use of the word ABANDON as I imagine every man in america who's spent more time on their career than on their family, would question it as well...
Do people who enlist for our armed forces, leaving behind wives and children - are they ABANDONING their families? Is that how you see that act?
"The Hippocratic of his indictments for a medical system that she only turned to in the later stages of cancer, offering some bastardized sense of committment to an entire nations who suffers with high cancer rates."
I think you meant for this to be english, but it really only came out as gibberish.
"Why shouldn't the grandparents who raised him and paid for his success be acknowledged for their full contribution. It wasn't that he was raised by a single mother...he was raised by affluent Grandparents (the 1%'s of their day) who honestly had Barack's best interest at heart."
I think everyones on that page but you guys. Mom raised him until he was 10...grandparents took over at that point...we know the narrative, are you just learning it? Does the first 10 years of his life not count, even though who we are is pretty much defined by age 5? Help me understand your delusions and disgust...it's not very christianly at all.
"We can accept that he had issues of abandonment that lead to his admitted drug abuse so why not expose the juvenile record? Why not release the records from Occidental....after all regardless of what they say he should be a role model, right?"
it's about as well known as Bush's coke and boozing habit...what more about BOTH do we need to know?
"What about Columbia is so secretive? How did any young man back in the day amass tremendous student debt without even a part-time job...let alone a biracial student of that day and age?"
*cough, you do realize "back in the day" students were not amassign the type of debt students are amassing today? education, what a marvelous thing...and it was cheaper back then, and gasp - smart people, even the biracial ones...got SCHOLARSHIPS. And he did amas student debt...he was still paying it off while he was campaiging in 2008 to be president. How dont you know these simple realities? Choice?
"His Brilliance in Politics is rooted in obstruction of his opponents and well half truths and secrecy....As President...he only need to use the stroke of a pen to be an embarrassment but to add to that insult he actually declared that half of the nation is his enemy"
blah blah, it's only your side never my side that is LIKE THIS...wake up girl, your stupidity is spelled out all across your face. YOu just described EVERY PRESIDENT in our nations history....dont you feel so much smarter now that you've been edumacated? Scary huh, feeling smart...
@Av........................ Thanks for the link..... Seems to me they all think we are stupid... I would purpose we serve them ALL with an eviction notice so we can bring in the presser washer to clean up their filthy mess.....
Has President OBAMA gone to ALL 57 STATES NOW?
Tim: you got any of those race cards left or have you used them up?
romilio
Maybe that would be why he referred to his Grandmother, in gratitude for all she did for him, a "typical white person".
All the sob stories are pure BS.
Umm, that would be TOO stupid to vote. Seems to me it would be a good idea to be able to clearly demonstrate knowledge of the difference (or would spelling it "differance" be more appropriate in this forum?) between "too", "to" and "two" in a response written for the specific purpose of criticizing someone's intelligence. Just sayin'...
Trix, you made me laugh but at the ignorance of these responses and your wish to use a Presser Washer to clean up the mess that BUSH started when he personally held up that podium as his arm held up his head.
In the meantime:
MR. Perry if you do not have 2 legs to stand on your own merits leave now. All you know how to do is BASH another for purposes of gain-----yet your talk is cheap. BTW: Bushy also had quite a privileged up bringingas did JFK.
And while you continue to bash another I am curious what are doing to help your TEXANS hand onto their ranches and stock, feed the stock, feed the kids better yet---ya know the ones right outside of Dallas among all that dirt and grub by the side of the road toward Ft. Worth. Much of your state burned and I am curious as you help yourself to another serving and a 3rd glass of expensive whatever----what are you doing to help TEXAS.
Hey Darlin if you cannot help your own state-----how the hell are you going to lead this country ---ahh by putting all responsibility on someone else and continuing to point a finger at another -----"AHH MOM IT WAS HIS FAULT, I JUST SMILED AND POINTED" Oh mom I cannot speak up on crap come out!
Taxman,
I am disapointed in Sean Hannity. He should have stopped Gov. Perry and reminded him that President Obama's grandparents were Kenyan Muslims.
Oh yea been there done that. Go home Govenor, As for Hannity does he even have a degree?
Has Obama been to all 58 states yet? (“I've now been in 57 states—I think one left to go.'')
Does Obama still see dead people? ("On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today.")
Is it still 2008? (During a trip to London’s Westminster Abbey, President Obama signed the guest book and dated it 24 May 2008. Oops. It was 2011.)
Does Obama know the difference between 12 and 10,000? (After a devastating tornado hit Kansas, Obama discussed the tragedy without help from a teleprompter, saying, ''In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died—an entire town destroyed.'' He was only off by 9,988 as the twister killed 12 people.)
Does Obama know whether he is Christian or a Muslim? (“What I was suggesting—you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,” before Stephanopoulos jumped in to help, saying ''your Christian faith.”)
Please, we already have too many inefficiencies in our health care system without Obamacare. “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.”
It doesn't take much brain power to decipher what Perry is trying to say here. Allow me to paraphrase on Perry's behalf: "Who does this uppity negro think he is?" This statement actually sums up what seems to be viewpoint of most of the GOP and the Right.
I see it im my workplace all the time, especially amongst the more conservative whites in my organization. Some people are threatened (sometimes downright scared) when they encounter a black person who is well-spoken, intelligent, educated, savvy and confident. They look at me like I'm a novelty item; like I forgot to stay in my "proper" place; like I'm an anomaly amongst my race. ...And just like Barack, I have to work twice as hard and produce twice as much as my white counterpart (Bush I, II) in order to get the same respect; obstacles are constantly placed in my path (obstructionist congress) to make it seem as though I'm incapable, despite my efforts.
Perry and his party peers are equally threatened by BHO. Our president is not consistent with the force-fed media image some folks have of black people (mug shots, corn rows, ill-tempered, mysogynistic, criminal, lazy people). The Right still LOVSE Herman Cain because he is EXACTLY the type of black man they expect--one that will obviously self-destruct. Thus substantiating what so many white people expect. It's what they expected Obama to do--but he didn't. He won't...and that, evidently, is burning the britches of Perry, the GOP all those Good 'ol Boys in the congress club.
People think I was privileged, too. I certainly wasn't. I worked hard. How come a capable black guy HAS to be privileged? Is that the only kind of successful black there can be? If Obama was white (and/or Republican) they'd consider him motivated, driven--but, alas, he's merely "privileged...How sad.
Perry has done what so many others have...sugar-coat and politicize his racism. Been that way in and around the US political sphere since 2008.
txmom32 - You're probably not going to "scare" too many liberals or progressives by playing the DNC card. TPublicans may consider the DNC tantamount to the communist politburo but most Americans simply consider it the Democratic Party's version of the RNC. Perhaps you should ask Perry to denounce the RNC so your criticism isn't leveled on him in the future...you people crack me up!
Jessica...First thank you for choosing to engage instead of just collapse ideology you do not agree with...I appreciate your effort to discuss...and you certainly reinforce my point...even if you stray to contrived supposition.
I don't believe I am being hypocritical....I never disparaged his mother or grandmother for doing what they could to elevate the child they loved. I do take issue with a single mother leaving one child behind and choosing her own interests beyond that of her child.
I agree...and as for my body of work as a high school or college student, yes there are probably some papers that would be off the mark from where I am now in life. That is the nature of growing up and growing in experience....It is doubtful that there is anything that I would be so embarrassed of that could not come to light if I were an elected official.
I don't know too many people who applaud men for abandoning their families. To that point if the man who "should have been" a father to my darling dear one knocked on our door I would only open it so I could have the small satisfaction of slamming it in his face. Fortunately, he and his three siblings were raised by a woman, who had been abandoned herself, who was strong and honest and determined to pass that along to her children, with no support or even hope of an affluent influence.
As for men who spent their time developing their careers to support their families...your comparison to the deadbeat dads who split is well insulting and apples to oranges.
I would classify that as an absurd assumption on your part and insulting to the spouses of our men and women who serve. So no that is not how I see that but is certainly an interesting glimpse into your motivation.
So if you missed the point read it slowly. His mother only came back from Indonesia a year before her death to seek medical care. He complained that the American Medical Community and the American Insurance community let her down....but did they really...did she rely too heavily on a foreign system only to return and expect that system to miraculously make her well? His mother did not die because the American system of medicine let her down she died because of untreated cancer.
first of all please clairify "you guys" because I can't speak for others. I think you have some what of a romanticized image of the situation...It is rather a common story....Girl get pregnant and marries guy, guy leaves girl and baby, girl goes back home and lives off of mom and dad until she finds another guy, Girl follows guy until that falls apart and girl goes back home, girl realizes she has never lived for herself because she was saddled with two children and leaves one at home while she follows her own interests....Fortunately, grandparents are in a position to offer the child left behind some nice benefits of a bankers life. You realize that by the age of 5 he had already been abandoned by one father? I am sure that had a significant impact and then to turn around and be abandoned again five years...well, no wonder he used drugs in his later years. That is a lot of stress and could really damage a child and young person...to the point where some decisions could be damaging and fortunately easily hidden from public view.
But this article isn't about Bush...let's stay on topic.
He claims that between he and Michelle they carried $120,000 in student loans along with other financial support.. to some point that is reasonable to see that sort of debt between two professionals....but, let's be real here...as I was in University at the same time as he and Michelle and I attended an elite private University....that is a whole lot of money for two people with no job to amass, even if they received scholarships and grants. Unless, they had people with money guaranteeing their loans, but then that would go back to that who air of privilege. My dad was no Banker but he made a good living and my mom had a good job but I only qualified for a small student loan because their income could support my education and I had some reasonable grades and a job. Now once I had my undergraduate degree I worked for a company that would have helped support further education...but that was an employee benefit and not a loan guarantee.
Education at elite Universities was not so cheap and if someone is telling you it was then....I suppose it is relative to one's situation.
Ya had to throw in the race card....were you getting desperate at this point of the discussion?
As for not having paid off his student loans by the 2008 elections, I find that curious....After writing two book he had achieved millionaire status and well they had both worked several years at lucrative professional careers...why wouldn't they have paid off that debt before purchasing their home in an upscale area of Chicago? Certainly they were not in arrears on their University debt or they would have not gotten a loan on the home, unless it were one of the Countrywide sweet deals because of his political position. But why would you state you are paying into accounts for your kids educations and not have paid off your own...there is something very imprudent about that.
So you can't dispute my statement?
I left out the incoherent part but then this is also illogical and a knee jerk reaction to a statement you can't discuss reasonably.
How so...please dazzle us with your brilliance?
Gosh...I don't know first let me review the 57 states.
Even when trying to slam the President you show your own inability to count becasue he said he had been to 57 states with one more to go, and that his campaign would not let him go to Alaska and Hawaii, so that would be 60 states.
TimeforaPurge wrote:
"Yes, let's expand on how Obama got rich. Does any one really believe a nobody, just out of college, having never held a real job, with no managerial experience, could write a book that just every one had to read and buy?"
Hmm... well my husband was a nobody from a poor black family. His father was an alcoholic, his mother a crackhead and neither graduated from high school. My husband has dyslexia and was in special ed classes. His academic advisors suggested trade schools. Yet, he became the first in his family to go to college. But he didn't stop there. He went on to dental school and we now own our own succesful dental practice. So I have to say that your comment is just as stupid as Perry's.
TimeforaPurge....he got rich because he was the subject of two books and royalties are golden if people buy the books...
swooshz....I would say you husband is a tremendous example of an American Success story....kudos to his success.
Old Doc...I had no intent of scaring anyone with the DNC card...I am however concerned that 131 people have supported this statement...
I have to say if 131 people who actually participated in this vine discussion now believe that the President was raised in Kansas....we have a big problem because the folks walk among us....and some probably exercise their right to vote....honestly, I don't think those are 131 votes going to any conservative.
@Jessica, Where do you park your broom? You can't even have a discussion without calling someone stupid. It shows your immaturity.
@txmom, Thanks for keeping it classy!
Sadly, I see that Obama has blind followers. Yes, Perry has made an ass out of himself, but next to none of you will admit to Obama's blunders. Let's be honest, he's made some good ones. I don't begrudge anyone upward mobility in life, but I'm not convinced Obama wasn't given some very lucky breaks by people who were pushing their own agenda. And I can't believe some of you actually blamed Bush. LOL
Griff999...thank you for the kind words. I doubt I will see a rebuttal of substance from Jessica although I would welcome a civil response. I, personally, am not a Perry fan but once in a while he can say something that is worthy of exploration. I certainly don't begrudge anyone from moving forward and becoming successful...I just don't care for the cherry picking of events or willful omissions. I can also say with certainty that that is the case with most contemporary politicians...It just seems to have elevated to an art form of deception with Obama. I do fully expect to have the remarks collapsed though..
I disagree vehemently with Perry. In my mind, President Obama owes it
to his mother because she gave her son the courage to be himself as
did my mother so I know of whereof I speak. I have never walked into
a room where I thought anybody was smarter than me so you have to
be true to yourself I think what was instilled in President Obama was a
sense of destiny and if you are not true to your destiny you are not true
to Jesus Christ who called you Have Thanksgiving all
Did Intellegence make people buy the books? No. Is President Obama intelligent? Yes.
I can see why you're skeptical, though. I mean if no one would pay to buy a book written by an Intellegence person like you, why would they buy a book written by a black guy who was basically elected President of the United States out of pity?
(After all, isn't that why we always elect black guys President, because we feel sorry for them over the color of their skin? Those black politicians have it soooo easy!)
You mean primaries, right?
Or are you really silly enough to think that a man who graduated Magna Cum Laude from one of the finest institutions of higher learning in the entire world really doesn't know that there are 50 stars on the US flag?
How many primaries were there? Let's see, if you add up all the primaries in the 50 states, plus the primaries in the various territories, commonwealths, and the District of Columbia (What? Those people are allowed to vote?), and US citizens voting from foreign countries, and then add in the state caucuses that were held on different days from their primaries, or where different parties had primaries on different days, the number you get is:
69.
You thought it was 50, right? Guam, Puerto Rico, DC, American Samoa, Virgin Islands, ....
TIME4APURGE
Upon evaluating your comments, I believe it is time for a purge. Lets purge the house and senate of all republicans. The party of NO is strangling america and their "steal from the poor to give to the rich" philosophy is greedy, self serving, and destructive to everything in America except their own bank accounts. We might want to impeach a few right wing justices while we are at it.
BS, Tim. You think the last election was just handed to him? You've conveniently forgotten a very bruising primary with none other than the Clinton machine.
Nothing wrong with being born smart, poor or rich. Â Its what you do with what you have or don't have in this life that matters.Â
Perry was born a poor moron with a father but he's managed to become rich working only in government.  How did he do that by the way?  Of course Texans are now perpetually ducking their heads--embarrassed at his blathering
Obama was born poor, smart and fatherless but is now the President. Â His books made him wealthy. Â And I'm of the mind you shouldn't be ashamed of being smart (what's happened to this country anyway that some think stupid is noble)?
Let's face it, in his idiot posturing Perry is trying to call President Obama uppity---I know the dog whistle. Just when you think Rick is dumber than a rock, it turns out he's dumber than dirt.
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Right as rain. Stupid is a disability. Ignorance is curable, and living with it is deplorable. The bullies in school should be giving the slackers swirlies. As a country, we should have a culture that shames the willfully ignorant. Being ignorant is the height of laziness. You don't even have to break a sweat to read a book.
Shame on Perry and dishonor on his family for letting him slip by with such poor grades.
He didn't publish his first book until 2004 after graduating from Harvard. Who financed his extravagant education and world travels before that?
Againsttheflow, don't be lazy and answer your own question! Then maybe you will learn something for a change. Remember that famous quote from the classic movie Animal House - "fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM
@agnsttheflow He worked, earned scholarships, grants and student loans.
Then-Senator Obama was still making student loan payments when he published his first best-selling book. He paid off the loans from the earnings, and contributed a large portion to charity.
How did he afford Harvard? Ever heard of scholorships? Thats what you get when you get good grades in H.S. and college. You racist Tpubs are pathetic!
That is an interesting point but have you been following anything this president has done? The Fast and Furious scandal? The Solyndra scandal? His close relationship with GE and all of the tax breaks that company has been receiving? Both sides of the aisle are messed up.
Perry's father got rich in government. It's sad to admit but all of these politicians get rich in the White House. These idiots in office are making insider trading deals based on the legislation they write and the advisement of Ben Bernanke. This has been a lifelong problem. The 99%'s are blaming Wall Street and the crooks are in the White House. The majority of them Democrats and Republicans. Open your eyes sheeple. Vote them all out and let's start fresh.
discussion: Obama's tax records are wide open. Look through them and see for yourself how ridiculous the charges you're making are. Open your eyes sheepie.
He makes all Texans look stupid.....he is amazingly similar to GWB. He has the same arrogant and dumb look on his face and makes the same type of comments. What a price......
Sadly, I think Angel is right, haven't read that term in a long time, uppity, but that about sums up where Perry's ridiculous rant is going.
agnst, Dreams from My Father was first published in 1995, not 2004.
@michael, How do you know he got good grades? Has ever released that information? Last I knew he had not.
ever hear of payment plans?
Griff:
Look up "magna cum laude".
You don't receive that status(like Obama did), unless your performance/grades are close to the top.
So Rick's complaint is that when Obama deals with forgein leaders he thinks he is the smartest guy in the room, and claims he will do better because he knows he is not the smartest guy in the room. Ha that is too funny Rick, take a moment think about what you you said and then here it comes, wait for it, ok now say it Rick, oops.
Forest, Obama was raised by both his grandparent, who where from Kansas, in Hawaii. His grandmother started at the local bank as a teller, and eventually, before she retired, worked her way up to be a VP. I believe his grandparents moved from Kansas to Hawaii to be with their daughter sometime around the time Obama was born. Granddad was a WWII Vet, and I'm not sure what he did after the move to Hawaii. Just want the facts to be straight. Rick is so ignorant, he's running ad's here saying how as PResident he would "send Congress home and cut their pay". Not "privileges" OR power that the POTUS has, the COnstitution actually prevents this, "separation of powers" and all that.. I don't know if Obama is the smartest guy in the room....but I can tell Perry ain't!
PatIowa your story is way off. Obamas Momma born in Kansas. Family moved to Seattle ,Wa area then on to Hawaii. Family always had money not rich just well off. Grand parents were communists. Mother married communist - muslim When to college like a normal person. Obama raised by grandparents from around 8 years old. Was mentored by Frank Marshal Davis, an American poet and communist. Obama never knew a poor day like they try and show him as poor single parent family. simply not true at all. Reading the comments it is obvious very few people here know anything about Obama. They should spend a couple days on google instead of reading his fiction auto biography he did get that his Mom was white right. Father is Arab - African mix. Obamas family and his past is an interesting read but hard to dig out the truth with all the right wing nutcase websites and the candy coated left wing websites.
" Family always had money not rich just well off. Grand parents were communists. Mother married communist - muslim When to college like a normal person. Obama raised by grandparents from around 8 years old. Was mentored by Frank Marshal Davis, an American poet and communist. Obama never knew a poor day like they try and show him as poor single parent family. simply not true at all. Reading the comments it is obvious very few people here know anything about Obama."
I'm sorry, the only one demonstrating he doesn't know anything about Obama would be you. This is all straight from Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.
I'm glad Frank-739698 spent a couple of days surfing the internet to get the truth out there about Obama - I really feel informed now.
It's a damn shame Rick could not be born a poor black kid, just a damn shame, some people get all the lucky breaks. Last week I thought Perry was an amiable dunce, now I realize he is just a dunce, nothing more and nothing less.
If Rick Perry had been privileged to grow up a poor black kid, I'm sure his family would have been proud enough to name their home "Crackerhead Ranch".
problem is, O is only half black, and he grew up in Hawaii, take another look at our fearless leader.
Another look? Exactly what "problem" am I looking for? That he's half black, or half white? Or what exactly? Please explain.
I can't believe the stupidity ranking on the intelligence. In my family we had a saying: "It's hard to grow up smart." If you show any intelligence in this society you are "the enemy."
LMAO
What, you think there are no poor people in Hawaii?
Jim, I don't understand your comment. Please expand on it. How is being "only half black" (whatever that means) and having grown up in Hawaii a problem (or an advantage)?
I'd really like to know. Honestly. Please prove to all of us you're not just another dumb racist.
Obama didn't grow up "poor" in the true sense of that word. Sure, he had a deadbeat alcoholic father and an irresponsible mother who was poorly raised by her own parents (mollycoddled spoiled brat "white guilt-ridden" trash.... IMO)
I think that combined with being half-black/half white made his life more difficult than your average kid. He definitely didn't have "easy street" going on in his personal life, that's for certain.
I'm not sure about Perry's background nor do I really care. We tend to look into the backgrounds of truly unique people we care about or are fascinated with.... so I guess I have a personal bias of not giving a crap about any of these clowns.
William it is 6:am don't they have and early morning Klan meeting you should be ironing your sheet for?
Jim-952823 wrote:
"problem is, O is only half black, and he grew up in Hawaii, take another look at our fearless leader."
REPLY: Congratulations, Jim. Yours is the most idiotic post on this subject, so far. Here's your "I AM AN IDIOT" sign. Wear it proudly.
Jim has obviously never been to Hawaii. There is this false notion that everybody there is affluent. Not so. But, then again, what can we expect from these people. We get it Jim, you hate President Obama. Just stop trying to justify it with constant lies.
I don't understand why people are calling one another "racists" (or other forms of the word). I haven't seen anything that seems racist posted on this discussion board (from this point...I haven't read every single page).
From an outsider's perspective, it seems like if a person disagrees with our President or questions his past, then they are referred to as a racist. That's not fair.
We are all missing the point, and the politicians are getting away with everything and anything because we would rather bicker about the small details and call each other names than really look at what's happening around us.
Waste: You read the comment about "only half-black" and growing up in "Hawaii" and concluded what exactly...that it was a compliment to being bi-racial and growing up in a place with great TOURIST hotels?? No wonder you can't identify racism when you see it.
Three cheers for Robert in Oregon!
Nope, it's got nothing to do with disagreeing with anyone. Jim didn't disagree with anything other than the fact Obama's half black (which makes him a dumb racist) and that he couldn't have been poor because he grew up in Hawaii (which just makes him dumb)
Wow they really raise them big and dumb in Texas. Every country I have visited and live in thinks the arrongance and ignorance of president such as that village idiot from Crawford, Texas is the what creates tension between them and America. I guess the StupidTEA Party really missed their village idiot and looking for a new one from Texas!
Mission Accomplished.
Your obsession with the TEA party meets the definition of "clinically deranged".
Just saying. You better get your head checked out by a shrink.
I guess you didn't get the memo Bill. Americans by and large hate you guys.
For sure....maybe these guys are all related...kissing cousins.
constipated, Bush has been out of office for three years, move on with your life or maybe you don't have one and wish to live in the past. BTW love all the name calling, its nice to see how far we've come.
wlee - And you think anyone else would have been able to stop the train wreck that Bush left us with in a year or two? What about the leaders of Greece, Italy, Spain, Ireland, France, Japan, etc., etc. They are all stupid, right? All we need is another Repub as Pres and in a matter of months everything will turn around, right? Obama inherited the worst economice mess in history since the Great Depression and the Repubs in Congress have done everything they could to derail him. Unlike you, most Americans already do and/or are beginning to see the truth of this. I wouldn't put too much money on ANY Repub in 2012.
Hoops, you got all that out of my comment to move past Bush. BTW I'm not a Republican. I'm an Independent who is able to see the good and bad in both parties, and to be able to understand that both sides love their country in their own way.
wlee
How about we all move past Bush when the effects of his leadership fade away. You know, when we all have jobs and can afford another house after getting squeezed out of the last one.
Why is it that some people think that because Bush is out of office (especially since they criticized Clinton a lot) that the slate is clean and that Bush had no hand in the current mess? They may actually be on to something as Bush was only the front man for Cheney who was actualy the "brains" of the outfit.
Dangerous Mind, and you place all the blame on Bush, how naive. Baldeagle who said Bush didn't have anything to do with the present condition, so far the only one I see is you, but sorry the continuing problem is all Obama as well as these stupid tax breaks for the rich. The Cheney thing is a bit old also and is the stereotypical Liberal response.
I'd rather have a guy who thinks he's smart than a guy who brags about being dumb.
Wow, what have we come to? George W. Bush jr. really set the bar for idiocy.
Reagan
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II
Relate all charts, GDP growth, reduction in debt, employment growth and you will find out what being the smartest guy in the room means.
Obama's problem is not that he is the smartest guy in the room, it is simply that that O'Donnell and Boehner think they are smarter than him.
Clinton has an IQ of around 160 which is genius. The others....not so much.....
Michael Reagan raise debt, Bush1 raise debt, Bush11 raise debt and Clinton pay down debt. Reagan lost jobs, Bush1 lost jobs, Bush11 lost more jobs and Clinton created more jobs then the other 2 before him then Bush 11 came along he try to destroy this country completely.
I did not know that Clinton had a genius-level IQ. Interesting.
also has a photographic memory
"mentality that he's the smartest guy in the room." Geez Perry, do you have wet brain from drinking or getting hit to many times playing football? It's Gingrich who let you know he's the smartest guy in the room.
Nothing like growing up on a farm and having no compassion for living creatures. Whats that? A cotton farm? No animals? Hmmm, that explains the cotton pickin' n*#gerhead rock!
and just how would you know he worked 2 days a week. Need facts to back up that statement. This isn't faux news!!!!!
One thing is true about Gov. Perry. If he stood alone in a room, he wouldn't be the smartest guy in there.
Poor Rick Perry. I feel sorry for the guy, but I'm absolutely sure his "I'm dumb" rhetoric will earn him votes among certain primary voters.
I want to know when having a well educated and overall learned leader became a bad thing. Why is being dumb a virtue? Why would I want a leader who can't remember the name of the departments he wants to eliminate? Why is smart the new stupid? Help me out here, I think I'm losing my grip on reality!!!!
Pragmatic, yeah Perry is in over his head, but if you blast him for his gaffe then you would have to blast Obama for his 57 state comment and the corpseman comment
it is properly pronounced and spelled corpsman, it is not core-man, it is corps- man, try getting an education !!!
Jeff, no sheet, the miss-spelling was for a reason try to follow. Having served in the Navy I'm quite aware of the spelling and pronunciation of the word Corpsman. Jeff are you aware you can use it's instead of it is or it isn't instead of it is not. No extra credit for using more words.
Okay, so maybe what Perry is saying is that although he is NOT the smartest guy in the room, he is certainly the dullest tool in the shed--even in Texas.
this guy Cain is running a very close second......hilarious to see and hear these fools. Delusions have no boundaries.
Me thinks people that have a camp to go to have a bit of "priviledge" going on in their lives. President Obama didn't have a crackerhead to go to did he?
upstate, what is a crackerhead?
The "Outer Limits" of sanity.
wlee-950886, upstate John is doing a little play on words. The dirt poor Perry family had a hunting lease named "@!$%#head" as a retreat.
It's like stream on conciousness science fiction listeing to the GOP.
Or like mystery science friction theater...rofl
Perry's remarks are thinly veiled racism: How could a black guy do so well unless all the doors were opened for him?
The "Outer Limits" of sanity.
Hey, its not racism you guys, come'on? Everybody knows that Obama was born on the planet Zorch! Paid his way through college with Food Stamps and then depended on the leverage he has with Affirmative Action to reach the presidency, right? Everybody knows that, right?
Perry's new campaign slogan:
I Will Not Ever Be the Smartest Guy in the Room. Really. But I Gotta Gun. Boom. Bam.
I think his new slogan should be "Oops..."
How about, "I believe what I want, whether or not it's the truth. Believe with me."
How about the president of the United States saying that there is only 47 states in the nation. How fast do you forget all the Oops moments that Obama made, but your liberal media outlet decided to put it under the rug, just like all the failures and disasters this president has commited... Think Your local friendly smile in every aisle, THINK...!
Big difference between a gaffe, and inbred idiocy there pal. Sure. blame the liberal media for Rick Ponzi being dumber than a box of rocks. Follow that idiot right off a cliff!
@Kelvin A. Guerrero
BTW genius he said there were 57 states,not 47,when he made that gaffe.
LOL at someone trying to pull the President's idiot card and being too stupid to even get his Faux News/Limbaugh Dittohead talking points straight.
Much like the rest of your pathetic existence I'm sure this is an EPIC FAIL.
Now go change your nappies whilst the adults are talking.
The President made the statement there were 57 not 47 states -- what he meant was there are 50 states, Washington DC (which is not a state) and 6 major US territories which (if you can do the math) adds up to 57.
Grover and you're a fine example of an adult. Hope, you can make excuses for one but not the other, seems a bit biased, now explain corpseman.
For all you people who think I'm not spelling corpsman correctly, it's for making a point, my apologies to all of you who were bright enough to understand the spelling.
Yeah that's right wlee---when I'm confronted by the typical talking points,Right wing BS that people like Kelvin bring in here I'm DONE being civil with these azzhats. That's gotten my side absolutely NOWHERE the last 30 years.
If the guy is too dumb to even come in here and be a freaking parrot for crying out loud then you better bet your bottom dollar I'm pulling his jackass card.
Deal with it.
Rick Perry reminds me of a "blonde joke" photograph I saw a few weeks back. A blonde standing next to a single stalk of corn. A corn maze for blondes!
I was under the impression that the GOP hated Obama because they thought he was born in Kenya, was a practicing Muslim and a socialist to boot. Those attributes qualify as "privileged?" Hmm, methinks Thou accuses too much.
Good grief. This is painful to watch. You'd think Perry's handlers would bundle him off to a cabin for a week and get him off pain pills. What a train wreck!
Obama went to a prestigious private school in Hawaii, traveled the world making friends in Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, went to Harvard. Somebody financed his life and career. Soros? Ayers? CPUSA? Avarage American? No way.
I'm sure the president's privileged education was funded by ACORN. The right wingers just can't wrap their brains around the idea that an education is a PRIORITY for some in this country. Maybe especially so for those that grow up in "privilege".
upstate John - when Obama was growing up there was no Acorn - where do you get your made up facts? How about schoolarships for the smartest kid in the room - there are many out there - in my granddaughters school 42 scholarships were not applied for
Plus Obama and Michelle have already said they applied and got school loans and took a few years to pay them back
Barbara, 'upstate John's comment was sarcasm directed at and in response to the previous post. If you read the entire post again after reading the previous comment, you will see the context.
Sorry Robert - sometimes I am a prickly pear - the Jews call it Sabra - prickly on the outside soft on the inside
...which he got into based on his intelligence, unlike Mr. Bush who got into all his fancy schools by his family connections...
...Obama was in elementary school in Indonesia and he never traveled to Saudi Arabia (which is a country closed to tourism) until he was president...
...see my first point....
Get your facts right, agnsttheflow. There is already an excess of stupidity in your camp.
When his mother remarried, she married an Indonesian, so they moved to Indonesia. She was also an anthropologist whose job it was to study people and their cultures. He got into the private school through a scholarship (for those who don't know, that is when someone pays your tuition for you when you EARN it by being SMART). There is nothing the matter with being smart. It sure beats the opposite. However, that doesn't add up to a "privileged" life.
againsttheflow: where on earth do you GET this stuff?? He got to college on a scholoarship (and no, it wasn't given to him by your devil incarnate philantropist, Soros). Geez...have you COMPLETELY given up trying to find something of substance to debate about??
Here go the Republicans starting Class Warfare again: "He went to an Ivy League school ...... he thinks he's so smart ...... he's an elitest ....... he got everything handed to him on a silver platter......., etc. etc.". Why don't you just come out and say it Ranger Rick: "He's just another one of them Uppity Blacks". Yeah, that'll get you some good-ole-boys votes!
Perry's comments are just plain stupid! I can't believe that he'd critisize the Pres. for beining too smart.
Yeah, I can't recall them saying the same about Clinton, who had a similar background when he was President, but Obama apparently was born with a silver spoon? I wish it surprised me the lies GOP candidates are throwing out there to see what sticks. So he went to an Ivy League school, but somehow faked it, must have had money (forgetting all the student loans he had), he traveled (heck I traveled all over Europe and I don't have a silver spoon, I just like to travel). Apparently REAL AMERICANS stay close to home? Why don't you stick to the economy, education, or that other department, which one was it again?
sophie, Clinton was raised by his grandmother while his mom worked as a nurse.
janellect: not really. Clinton's grandparents took him for his first 3 years of life, after which his mother finished nursing school and returned.
how does that correlate to a silver spoon? I doubt his mother would have gone to nursing school in that case.
I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying there was no silver spoon in either president's case...In Clinton's, the suggestion was made his mother didn't really raise him. She did. In Obama's case, the accusation is that his grandparents were well to do. They were most definately not.
Agreed
Why do these clowns spew the stupidest crap possible??? I swear they are in an contest to out-ignorant each other.
because they're stupid republicans
I agree, it should be about the issues. But he does have a point. When the going gets tough, it is never Obama's fault or responsibility. Shows a lack of maturity. But then again, so what. They all have their problems. The real question should be is the president succeeding.
If I were a Republican, I'd be utterly embarrassed to align myself with the party based on these clowns that are vying for the nomination. These candidates are cartoon characters. You mean to tell me that there are actually people out there that think Perry, Bachmann or Cain would make a good president? Cain and Perry can't even string together a coherent thought. Palin is crazy....she should jump into the mix tomorrow. She might have a legitimate shot going up against this group.
Thank you, KNW36-Can we roll the dice and pick some new candidates to run who can actually chew gum and walk at the same time? Just not Palin...I'm still not ready to have our country run by her...
What's missing is a real leader, we haven't had one in a very long time and from what I see won't have for a very long time.
Perry: Please bow out now; it is so painful to here your attempts at speaking intelligently on the issues. Obama is by no means an elitist as you are suggesting, and has worked his butt off to get where he is in life. Quit embarrassing yourself, and all the country. Perry, you would be a foreign relations nightmare.
This guy is unbelievable, can't debate, makes a worthless point with Hannity, and umm, umm, umm what's my 3rd point? I can't remember, oh yeah would be another horrible President in the likeness of another one from Midland, Texas.
@Paul-2793107,
There are three things that I despise about Gov. Perry's politics
1.) He is sooo arrogant and privileged.
2.) He is about as smart as fungi growing on a pond and...
3.) Ummm, ohhhhhh, uhhhhhh; &%^$#*&@; no I can't, I just can't!
Ron Paul, what was that third thing I was thinking of? Ummm, the third thing was...uhhhhhh