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Subscribe to RSSCOLUMBIA, SC -- Back on the stump for the first time since Saturday night's debate with his GOP rivals, Mitt Romney wasted little time in turning his focus back to President Obama, lashing out at the president for making "disparaging" comments about Americans.
"Sometimes, I just don't think that President Obama understands America," Romney said. "I say that because this week -- Or was it last week? -- he said that Americans are lazy. I don't think that describes America. Before that I think it was in October, he was saying we have lost our inventiveness, and our ambition. Before that he was saying other disparaging things about Americans. I just don't think he understands -- he was saying we just weren't working hard enough. I don't think he gets what's happening in this country."
Romney was referencing remarks made by the president at Saturday's APEC summit in Hawaii, where he was asked about government policies that serve as impediments to foreign investment in the United States, not about Americans generally.
"I think it’s important to remember that the United States is still the largest recipient of foreign investment in the world. And there are a lot of things that make foreign investors see the U.S. as a great opportunity -- our stability, our openness, our innovative free market culture," Obama said. "But we’ve been a little bit lazy, I think, over the last couple of decades. We’ve kind of taken for granted -- well, people will want to come here and we aren’t out there hungry, selling America and trying to attract new business into America."
Later in his remarks, Romney hit the president again, perhaps a bit more gently, for his broader economic policies.
"Now I don't want to be too critical, the president came in, and I think never having worked in the private sector, he went to work trying to make things better. And remember that old Ronald Reagan line - he says the most frightening thing you could possibly hear are, 'I'm here from the government and I'm here to help,'" Rommey said. "And so he did almost everything, in my view, wrong."
The balance of Romney's speech, which followed an introduction by his wife, Ann, was focused on his own economic and fiscal policy. He touched on his plans to shut down various government programs, and send Medicaid back to the states, but spent the most time on labor policy.
Speaking on the floor of Colite, a non-union sign factory, Romney tailored his speech to reflect the anti-union sentiment among Republican voters here, fueled by a National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) lawsuit charging that Boeing built a factory in South Carolina to punish striking workers in Washington State.
Romney said that President Obama paid unions back for helping him get elected by appointing “stooges to the NLRB.”
“You know something about that in South Carolina,” he said, alluding to the NLRB/Boeing case.
Romney said that American workers were entitled to protections including the right to a secret ballot, the right to 30 days notice before a union election, the right to resist mandatory unionization and the right to work in a non-union state.
*** UPDATE *** Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt responds: “Only Mitt Romney would criticize the president for encouraging CEOs to promote the United States abroad in order to create American jobs and attract investment at home. Maybe that’s because when Mitt Romney was a finance executive, he was more focused on outsourcing American jobs and creating profits for investors without any regard for the impact of his decisions on middle class families.”
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You gotta love this lying fool ...a constant source of amusement !
Is there some kind of contest going on for who can say the most stupidest things?
Go get em Mittens, you paper tiger you! lol
"Is there some kind of contest going on for who can say the most stupidest things?"
Yes- only we don't call them contests: we call them Republican 'Debates'.
Feisty, do you think Jeopardy can come up with a category for the dumbest GOP remarks? Let's see, I'll take Romney for $200, Alex. :)
Only if the Price is Right!
Come ON down Willard! lol
That one is going to cost you a new monitor... for me! ;o)
That makes up for the sore hip from yesterday! (Have pillows by the chair today)
I don't think Republicans understand that the majority of the American People ain't buying what they're shoveling.
This from a guy that could only handle being a Governor for one term simply to try to build up his resume for the job he now seeks.
You'll see how lazy we are on election day Willard, most of us listen to the whole message instead of commenting on the little pieces of the statement and take it out of context.
There should be a law about sound bites, it's kind of like plagiarism.
We are talking about the same individual (Mitt), who made his fortune buying companies -- only to dismantle them, lay off thousands of workers and sell the parts overseas?
And President Obama doesn't understand America. Yeah... sure, Mitt. But you do? LOL!
... and the answer is... The Daily Double
@Voting independent
LOL
President Obama understands that Republicans don't care about good paying jobs for American Workers, and by now we all understand that Republicans can't stand the thought of the American People having access to health care.
Presidents are selected by the media (and their owners) to be presented to you so that you may think you have a choice. Presidents' job is to serve the rich and entertain the poor so they do not rebel. That is why movie stars make good presidents.
Did someone actually think that Obama ever did understand America?
Obama ranks low among recent incumbents
" 52% saying they disapprove of how Obama is handling his job in the White House ... Obama's 46% approval ranks above only Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford - who both lost their re-election bids - in November of the year before an election"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/15/cnn-poll-obama-ranks-low-among-recent-incumbents/?hpt=hp_t3
Geez, what nonsense. If anyone doesn't understand America, it is Romney born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
Romney: "I just don't think President Obama understands America."
How could he? He doesn't even understand that the lost tribe of Israel came here, or that the Garden of Eden was here...
I'd like to introduce you to my friend "Kettle" based on your "most stupidest" comment. I think you should really take a close look at yourself before being critical of others, especially when using phrases like "most stupidest".
American Girl-724855, it's one thing to have a good paying job that is commensurate with the value you provide to the position. It's another thing entirely for union workers whose pay and benefits already far exceed that of their fair market value go on strike, or threaten to go on strike, in a greedy attempt to extort even more from their employers. It is not, nor should be, the role of government, as in the Boeing case, to restrict companies from seeking fair and reasonable labor costs, whether here or abroad. It's no different than if the government tried to tell Ford they had to sell the Taurus at twice what they'd like to sell it for but allowing Toyota to sell the Camry at the fair market price.
This, coming from a guy that is a 3rd generation mega-millionaire who has done nothing but sit in corporate boardrooms is entire life.
Romney gobbles up businesses for dinner and puts workers on the streets for looking for scraps. For dessert he profits then digests. That's his idea of America.
Does the republican controlled house realize they are considered the worst in history, bar none, do they think they poll that low because they understand America. Obama a bi-racial kid who grew up being raised by a single mother who worked hard for everything he has, as opposed to having his way paved by Daddy's money, Obama understands 99% of America. Mitt Romney is probably a nice enough guy, (he will say anything and everything to make a friend), but he really only understands 1% of America.
Whereas Romney doesn't THINK Obama understands America, we all KNOW Romney doesn't. Mr. "what do I think today" doesn't have any concept of the average American, their ambitions, their goals. Because Romney just has everything handed to him by the Koch brothers and their ilk. But, hey, the far right is buying his crap because they don't have enough sense to see through him.
"I just don't think . . ." pretty much sums up Romney.
Romney doesn't understand the 99%, so he must be saying that Obama doesn't understand the unfortunate plight of the 1% who hold most of the wealth (that Romney truly does understand) in these troubling economic times.
I'm a non-partisian voter. I could care less if a person is republican, Democratic, independant, or whatever. All I care about is to see good ideas, good leadership, and good morals enter the white house, and I'm willing to sacrafice a few things on my own part to see that the best canidate will get in office. Recently, however, I'm finding it hard to trust people out of the republican party. Not that I find the other party doing much better, but because I've noticed a very negative trend in the republican party. All the old good sense and tough character is fading. The only canidates that are coming up to plate are people who can win the election, not run the country. They sell only the most favorable ideals, they show none of the level-headed tenacity of the republicans of old, and they all just seem to be more and more drawn to relying on the fact that they're republican to win, rather than wether they're a good canidate or not. To a less extent the same thing goes for the democrates, but it really hurts to see a party with a history of good presidents come to such a pathetic low. I really hope it's only a passing trend. I miss the days when the Democrats were sharp and visonary and the Republicans were tough and worldly.
Personally, I think Romney is correct - I do think Obama is out of touch with most Americans.
I also think the GOP/Romney bashing is irrelevant to this discussion. Like I've said many times before on these boards, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Ron,
If you consider Obama to be out of touch with most Americans then Romney and the GOP must be exiles from Siberia!
Oh my, Romney slipped in the polls so pulled out the Birther dog whistle. This business of saying the President is somehow "un-American" or an "other" what ever way this is said is really old and unacceptable. President Obama is just as American as you and I, and worked his way to where he is now. If anyone is out of touch it is Romney who has live in a world of wealth and strange religious beliefs.
"I miss the days when the Democrats were sharp and visonary and the Republicans were tough and worldly."
Amen, brother.
Ron, I think Mitt and the other candidates deserve all the bashing they get. Nobody is putting words in their mouth - well, maybe with the exception of Herman. Anyway, if you think it ok for Mitt to cut and paste from comments made by Mr. Obama, I would say you have selective hearing/observing. Mitt changes his mind on everything about as often as most people change their socks. Not only is he out of touch with America, I think he is out of touch with himself!
Voice_of_Reason -- It's off topic, but prove your claims.
During recent conflict over public sector unions, it was found they earned less than the private sector. In the private sector, unions are almost non-existent, but in the auto manufacturing industry, union workers make about the same as non-union workers.
That's an out-dated lie used by the GOP/TP for union-busting, but the real reason is the desire to destroy union support for Democrats. It never occurred to Teapublicans to be pro-American worker to get that support.
If you want to talk about greed, it is corporations that are all about greed. We are returning to the days of early industrialism and robber barons that started the whole reason for labor to organize and go on strike. I call it "the market correcting itself" and we need unions again (not as in the old days with mob involvement, but as unions are now in modern times).
If workers can form solidarity globally, whether the Arab Spring or Occupy Wall Street, then companies will have to stop exploiting labor by off-shoring jobs. And instead of demanding more productivity from short-staffed employees while paying themselves handsomely and sitting on piles of cash, companies will have to share profits with their employees again.
What Romney The Corporate Raider and the GOP/TP are about is a Race to the Bottom.
Obama is clearly referring to the executives that should be busy promoting business, but far too often are busy padding their paychecks and making money by gutting companies instead of building up their business. Of course, that's exactly how Romney made most of his millions, so he doesn't think that criticism applies to him and his millionaire CEO buddies.
Romney is even more out of touch, having spent his entire life with wealth and privilege, he has no idea what it is like to be middle class, let alone be part of the working poor. Like other wealthy Republicans, he sees labor unions as "The Enemy" and not as the defender of the working class. All of his economic policies are designed to benefit the wealthiest and most powerful 1%, and are completely unconcerned about the plight of the working class and unemployed, which make up the majority of Americans.
"Did someone actually think that Obama ever did understand America? Obama ranks low among recent incumbents" 52% saying they disapprove of how Obama is handling his job in the White House ... Obama's 46% approval ranks above only Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford - who both lost their re-election bids - in November of the year before an election"
Wow, talk about cherry-picking a time frame in which to compare presidents! How about if we compare Obama's approval ratings to Reagan's for the 2nd and 3rd years of their presidencies? Guess who was way ahead? Check it out here: http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/presidential-approval-center.aspx
Or just to give the deathknell to the falsehood that approval ratings a year out mean anything, check out how Reagan, GHWB, and GWB had statistically the same approval ratings (low 50's) in late Nov/early Dec of their respective terms. Notice that 2 were reelected and one was not.
Thanks for the update FR!
pjam09
Polls don't mean squat, are only as good as the question(s) the reviewer poses, and are often gerrymandered by the party out of power on the prowl for polls they can sway. The only thing that is meaningful is CHOICE. And right now the Republican party is kind enough to serve up lots of entertainment and bad example as they search for the one true Bozo the Clown. If not Obama in 2012... who?
Hopefully we will not re elect Obama. His policies will kill this country.
Oh, and Mr. Moneybags Romney does? What a laugh. This man has not a clue what it's like to be middle American. He is so far away from knowing what it's like to have to budget like most of us he needs to just shut up.
Isn't this what they hear out of faux news everyday?
Isn't this what the typical "liberal" tries to explain to a dense wing nut, EVERY DAY!
These people are so confused.
Garbage in, garbage out - just listen to what they say.
They are all evil and out to get us, I need the government to protect me from the big Rich, Greedy, Bush, GOP monster. Obama, I will give you every penny I have if you can build a protective barrier around me to protect me from this Evil. I don’t care if America is not America any more, as long as you protect me from the evil of the GOP.
I know they are out there in the shadows waiting, just waiting to strip me of my last nickels and dimes so they can add many more millions to their hoard. Liberals and Democrats please press me firmly against the breast of socialism. Bring justice to the evil rich perpetrators that allowed the credit bubble. America wants you to protect it, from its self; we are no longer smart enough to think on our own. Please guide us to light Obama and tell us what to do about this economy.
Stop letting people buy made in China stuff so I can get my crappy manufacturing job back. Please make the EPA shutdown the polluting manufacturing companies that remain in the US. Please tax the Rich owners of those Companies because they choose to be Greedy, Rich and Evil. Please make the government bigger by spending another 500 billion on Union and government jobs, because the government needs to be big to protect me from the EVIL of the GOP.
Please just tax the rich some more and give me the money so I can buy a new truck.
lahater
What are you going on about? Are you a FOX news watcher? It seems FOX has convinced it's viewers that if people are not conservative, they are ignorant, lazy and deluded. We are all Americans, and we are in trouble together. Many have been laid off, lost our homes, and for the first time in generations, our children will do worse than we did. You want to blame liberals or democrats? I'll take a line from FOX. Follow the money.
Romney likes money and power. How has this combination ever worked for us before?
Mr. Romney...................it isn't that the President doesn't understand America! It's that he doesn't understand HOW YOUR America survives on Ignorance! Fixed it for you, K? :-(
Renee R,
I love FOX news, I can't sleep at night because I spend all day and night watching FOX news. FOX FOX FOX....
President Obama criticizes American CEO's, Romney says the President "doesn't understand America." We have 4M jobs for 14M unemployed, the entire Conservative Movement sings in unison that the unemployment are lazy slugs who should get off their keisters and get jobs.
Who is it, exactly, who doesn't understand America?
Where are the jobs you promised in the 2010 election, Republicans?
Its not just the republicans that promised Jobs, some one spent almost a trillion dollars to create jobs. Where are the Jobs mister Obama.
2.8million to 3.6million of then were created just by the stimulus according to the unaffiliated and independent CBO. Likely more by the 15 other tax cut bills and other job initiatives. But there's a distance to go from curing a near depression, and only a fool will retreat back to policies that brought it about.
Every word out of a Republican candidate's mouth is another vote in the other direction. I guess they think Americans are stupid since they misquote and lie and expect us to just sit back and eat it.
This was just one more attempt to paint Obama as "different" from "us"... "he doesn't understand Americans"... what a laugher... Romney couldn't understand my life and my issues if a leaf blower hit him in the face.
The American people want to know what they will do for our Economy and our Country, but they can't seem to make a whole sentence without putting Obama down. This will be their down fall. I think all the Candidates are "ReTards"
the majority of us don;'t get the tea party and why it's ok for republicans to pledge allegiance to Grover Nordquist and have forsaken the country in the process..
the GOP is full of traitors and they should be treated that way
Romney knows damn well what the president said and the context in which he said it. Romney has now PROVED that he is just another lying a$$hole who can't win on ideas so now will resort lying about what Obama said. The good thing for Obama is, he doesn't have to lie about things Romney has said...just play the quotes verbatim and you see what kind of unprincipled, no-core-values, pandering worm that Romney is.
To all the liberal idiots posting on here: you do know that BHO is in the 1% right? You do know that BHO grew up pretty well, right? You do know that Barry is quite wealthy, right?
Obama would have understood America much better if he was born here.
What he really meant was "President Obama doesn't understand what it feels like to want your kids to inherit a hundred million dollars each and not pay a penny in taxes, when some poor shmoe in realityland is paying $12,500 in taxes on a $50,000 salalry that he breaks his back to earn."
Then there's social security and medicare taxes, etc. etc.
Because that income has already been taxed you dolt!!!!!!!!!!
nycguy
LOL..keep beating that dead horse....
Jennifer....thanks, I will....at least until BO actually produces a real birth certificate....
I'm as conservative as the next person, but give it up nycguy. Accusations like that are just moronic and do nothing but paint us in a bad light.
And maybe nycguy could produce a real brain!!!!!!
TO THE ADMINS
How can a thread with so many HIGHLY RATED comments be "collapsed" by the community unless it is a concerted effort to have those highly rated comments hidden from view?
PLEASE UNCOLLAPSE THIS THREAD.
Thank you.
The next thing these "twitty" GOP Candidates will say is President Obama can't even speak English! The GOP candidates are just an eight ring circus right now, with a clown in each ring vieing for the attention of their adoring 'crowd'! See how they all try to stand at the far-right side of each ring! Maybe that's so they can join the tea party circus animals!
Romney agreed with the absurd Supreme Court decision that "Corporations are People too."
Romeny also worked with Corporations to deliberately eliminate numerous jobs for American workers. His estimated wealth is between $190 and $250 million dollars. Yet, he stands before the people and he lies about his ability to be able to identify with them.
Along with the other Right-Wing loonies - Bachmann, Cain, Perry, etc - Romney is AS FAR REMOVED from most Americans as any politician can get.
If you beleive this "fibber" - I have a bridge to sell you.
I use to think Mitt was the one with a brain ..now im confused .. is it Mitt or Bachmann ..
Independent jim,
None of the current GOP presidential candidates have any brains.
It is just a matter of what order to put these extremist candidates in.
Regarding a lack of knowledge..I think either Bachmann or Perry would take the top spot.
Why should people pay taxes on money already TAXED?
I think Forest Gump can answer this question very intelegently!
TruePatriot-445959, okay so you're pro-union, there's no reasoning with you because you're so indoctrinated into believing the union is the greatest thing ever. You probably live in an area where most of your neighbors and friends belong to unions and your family is most likely largely composed of unions workers. You wouldn't "get it" because you neither have the educational background nor clarity of thought to "get it". Unlike you, I'll actually cite real statistics from the BLS showing union workers on average were paid $200 more per week than their non-union counterparts in 2010! It's not a GOP/TP talking point, quite the opposite really, you're trying to sell people on your liberal/union propaganda which is entirely baseless. Your blatant ignorance of fact is, quite frankly, disgraceful. And my comment wasn't off topic, it was in response to American Girl-724855's comments regarding "good paying jobs".
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.t02.htm
It's so refreshing to see another Republican candidate go down the sewer. So far we've weeded out Bauchman, Perry, Paul, Cain and now Romney as all crazy, in a very public way, as they get. That leaves Newt who's been around wayyyy too long to fall into the trap of talking and letting people see just how crazy he is but his luggage is too extreme to be ignored. I guess that leaves us with Huntsman...come on Huntsman show us your particular brand of crazy.
Koch plan from the beginning?
Koch's plan = Weak and malleable leaders who will let the far right corporate interests run the country to their greedy dictates. Get ready America for China wages and China type polluted environment and every man, women and child for themselves.
"Romney: 'I just don't think president Obama understands America'"
Romney, further: 'Say, don't you just love my No Jo immitation?'
Romney, even further: "see- just becauce I say it, that makes it so."
Really?
http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/13/obama_us_has_been_lazy_about_attracting_new_business.html
Add to that his claim that we've lost our "ambition" to build things like the Hoover Dam- as if environmentalists would allow such construction- his claims, last year, that the electorate just did not know how wonderfully all his plans had worked out, and, yeah, Mitt's being kind when he says Obama does not understand America.
I'm inclined to agree more with Krautheimer- that it betrays Obama's thinly veiled contempt for the country.
And my own take- that he cannot accept responsibility for his own failures.
And they are legion. . .
"I'm inclined to agree more with Krautheimer-"
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....Does anyone know what a "Krautheimer" is? It has a bit of a Nazi sound to it. Just asking.
Krautheimer knows (and Romney) like the majority of common sense Americans, that to understand America you must be an American.
John - and your point? You are not seriously still doing the stupid "birther" stuff are you???? The majority of common sense Americans see right through the GOP and it's idiotic slate. After all, we know they're controlled by Koch and the like.
come on W: you seriously expect common sense from the hater crowd?
John
I take back my check so only one not two.
I intended to reply to your wrong minded right wing comments and hit check by mistake. You, Romney and Krautheimer do not represent the majority of us out here. You represent the top 1% and in the next election, you will find that we, the real common sense people, have had it with those who just care so little for anything but their own selfish interests, they let real inequities exist and in fact push for those inequities to exist for years now. Your ilk is at 9% and Mittens is not going to get any of the Dems vote, can't garner more then one quarter of the Repubs vote, so what do you think is going to happen? Yes, the American people are not happy with the economy and Obama has been way too accommodating with the greedy right wing. The American people know full well however, who is to blame and it is not Obama. It is the right wing, corrupt and selfish to bone, who is at fault. Money and self interest first has been and continues your whole reason for existing. Let people suffer while filling your coffers should be your motto.
Jennifer,
As an independent that voted for Obama, I think both parties are about money and their own self-interest. As an example, look at the fact that insider trading is legal for members of congress - even though they'd throw you or me in jail for it.
As to the 1% versus the 99%, just because someone has different ideas on how to fix the economy doesn't mean they are not attempting to fix it for everyone. Personally, I like the TP small government approach because I think government interference was one of the root causes of the recession - and I think it's one of the reasons the recovery has been as slow as it has been.
In theory I think stimulus spending can be good, but in practice, I think government wastes a large percentage of the money and the overall effect is more detrimental than just letting the chips fall and paying for the social safety net to ensure nobody is hungry or homeless. I say this because I think the best way to help everyone in the long run is to reduce the size and scope of government. (including cutting military spending by at least 50%)
"Stimulus spending" by simply giving out money or tax breaks doesn't work well and increases the debt. Bush Jr. and Obama both tried it, and both times it failed. But a stimulus program of putting people to work building useful things and providing useful services definitely does work - it reduces unemployment, provides goods and services, boosts the overall economy, and best of all can provide a financial return to the Government that could reduce or even eliminate deficits.
Ron
Tell your TP brothers and sisters to sit down at the table and negotiate for a a better America. Not a better Koch Bros.'s America. One where jobs are being created in the US that pays a living wage. An America where banks and the Koch Bros are not writing the legislation in Congress. An America where education of our young, so we can compete with the rest of world, is a priority. Tell the Tea Party to get their religious dictatorial policies out of our government and stop voting for tax breaks for the one percent while fighting to lay off workers. Then, I will be right there with you and the Tea Party. Think they will tell Koch and Company to take a hike? I doubt it seriously.
Seriously, nojo, you don't understand the difference between saying the US has been lazy in one aspect of attracting business and calling Americans lazy? Even the title of the video link you provided seems to understand the difference.
Sometimes, I just don't think that President Obama understands America.he said that Americans are lazy...
So...How many "unemployed" from occupy street are running to Alabama to pick crops, Mr. Romney? I said more than lazy, many are just plain SPOILED.
This was recently on the news:
Alabama farmers losing immigrant labor, see produce rotting in the fields.
Of course she understands the difference. But it's more useful to her and her cohorts to misrepresent and lie about the meaning of the President's remarks.
Is anyone really shocked at this kind of behavior anymore? It's standard operating procedure for the Tea-trolls on Newsvine. We even had a veiled birther remark from John. Aren't we all over that lie by now? Or has it been deemed useful for the right to start repeating that untruth again?
HoJoBloMo:
[I'm inclined to agree more with Krautheimer- that it betrays Obama's thinly veiled contempt for the country.]
Really? Are you talking about Charles Krauthammer? It comes as no surprise that he is some sort of "hero" of yours (although if you are going to glorify someone, you might want to at least spell his name right). Krouthammer is nothing more than a parrot for the fake "conservative" moral movement in this country, and due to his association with Fox "news", has lost all credibility in the world of journalism.
Voice_of_Treason
What is it with the GOP/tp obsession with unions. Here's a news flash for you. Labor statistics say union membership makes up 11.9% of America's work force. You guys need to find a new straw dog to constantly attack. It's starting to make you look more and more ignorant. Which, quite frankly, isn't much of a stretch anymore. Unions this, unions that, blah, blah, blah.
dennis -- it is amazing to me how this 11.9% have complete control of the democrats and their thinking.
LOL!! Fisty, you crack me up...you're one to talk about others making "stupid comments"
james your a fool to beleive that.. unions don;'t have that much control on anything inpolitics, but they sure represent a bunch of us who actually have good jobs, healthcare, and a retirement plan
James, you see the problem, but blame the wrong source. Our problem is that we have until now allowed right wing trolls to frame our national debate. They use deficits and debt and union bashing to cause fear. The simple fact is that debt and deficits are the straw-man. They really are not the problem but it is easy to convince people who have zero understanding of economics and monetary systems that they are. People need to equate the problems to something they can understand so they try to equate government to their household or business. The simple fact is that you nor your business can print money and the government can. The other myth they would like us to sucker to is that by printing money we somehow devalue it. Again, a little understand would go along way towards dispelling these myths and reframe the debate around things that really matter like not allowing the protection of copyrights and intellectual property by selling out our jobs with "Free Trade" agreements. Nothing is free, someone always pays. I'd settle for "Fair Trade" which means if you don't pay the workers in your country a livable wage, if you pollute the environment to the point of destruction then we are going to tariff your goods so that no one here wants them. Cheep imports have done more damage to our employment that outsourcing ever did.
Unions have been in decline for the past 30 years, and yet they are the boogeyman that is dragging our country down? You must be joking. If unions disappeared overnight we would still be in the sh____er.
NoJoe .. its the GOP/TP that holds the middle class of our country in contempt ..these freaks will do or say anything to get in power ... any support they get comes from sheep that fear any change good or bad ... these are the same people that before going to bed at night look under the bed for fear some atheist or muslim is hideing there
Short of demanding his birth certificate, I love Romney's subtle inference that somehow, Obama is a foreigner...and just doesn't understand us Americans.
Romney is a carnival barker.
American Girl, I hate to disagree with you, but Romney is a used car salesman.
Phiney, not to worry, by the end of the day Romney will have flipped himself over trying to have it both ways.
lol
Unfortunatly for Obama, Americans have learned to understand him.
Obama ranks low among recent incumbents
" 52% saying they disapprove of how Obama is handling his job in the White House ... Obama's 46% approval ranks above only Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford - who both lost their re-election bids - in November of the year before an election"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/15/cnn-poll-obama-ranks-low-among-recent-incumbents/?hpt=hp_t3
Ursula - how sad that such stupidity amuses you.
pjam09 - and yet Obama is still polling higher than any of his GOP counterparts. Imagine that!
Ursula, exactly who are "us" Americans? How do do you distinguish them from the "other" Americans? I can't wait to hear your answer.
nevermind
Well Romney does have one thing.....
He didn't give billions of taxpayer money to Green companies like Solyndra who went bankrupt anyway and added to the unemployment line.
He also didn't get backed like Obama by Corzine who somehow lost 700 million of people's money (cough....offshore....cough), is the 8th largest bankruptcy in US History, yet is walking away bulletproof from OWS even though 1800 more people lost jobs.
Laker
Solyndra was half a billion. Not billion. Would you rather we just keep subsidizing fossil fuels to the tune of hundreds of billions a year? They're such a struggling industry, they must really need government help. But I bet you're all for that. Did you criticize Bush for his trillions (that's trillions with a T) in wasteful spending and outright theft and cronyism? Somehow I doubt it.
Jeez-Louise! How many Republicans have ranted on about the President's birth certificate? And when it seems finally put to bed, Romney gives the old scare tactic a spin by saying Obama doesn't understand America - a very thinly veiled reference to Obama being foreign...just to keep the thought alive in the backs of some neanderthal's scull. I'm sick to death of the fear-mongering the GOP uses to influence their weak-minded base. Is that clear enough for you? Or do I need to intersperse little smiley faces with my sarcasm?
Of course Laker and Ursula didn't oppose Bush squandering trillions of dollars with no way of paying. That's what's so incredible for me; WHERE WERE YOU WHEN....?
Oh but wait the sky is falling now that you have an African American in the WH. We better hurry up and take away his check book cause he's gonna put 52s on Air Force One and do the Nelly bump down the tarmac huh.
Oh wait you're not like that you just disagree with his policies... Faux News began this attack way before Obama got the Reinvestment Act passed in Congress.
Peep-eye we see you, so go put on some clothes!!!
Sorry Ursula I re-read and didn't realize you were being sarcastic.
Ron in Seattle-2190928-2190938;
Sorry Ursula I re-read and didn't realize you were being sarcastic.
Typical Obama supporter, not good at reading.
barry had a bit of a freudian slip when speaking in honolulu but saying how beautiful it was here in asia. must have been tired and forgot that he was standing in the state of his birth????
Obama knows all about loud mouth low class Americans, that is where his expertise lies.
It's Romney who doesn't understand us. He has that silver spoon shoved so far in his pie hole he no longer knows what it is like to struggle day to day.
awol.... US Americans are the ones that want to see America SUCCEED the other Americans (in name only) are the GOP/TP right wing fascists that want to see our country FAIL
The only Americans Romney understands are the very wealthy. He must have polled likely GOP voters to see if the President's comment would rile up the base. And, truthfully, the President was right. Today's Americans tend to take everything for granted and forget that our folks and their folks, etc., had to work hard. Today's group are a lot like Eric Cantor. "I want what I want and I want it NOW" (Without working for it)
I was thinking the other day about what would happen if, when our country went to war, the President required us to make some sacrifices, like back in the days of Victory Gardens, gas & food rationing and Rosie the Riveter. What do you think would happen? We would see a lot of whining and complaining rather than the patriotic fervor we exhibited back them. Our attitude towards patriotism and loyalty towards our country has changed a lot over the years. Perhaps we have become a bit lazy and self centered.
Phinephancy_— This is the mantra of the Democratic Party... a land of entitlements paid for by those who worked hard to succeed! Your comments consistently belie your liberal bias and complete lack of understanding of the Conservative view!
The conservative view appears to be a dark vision of hatred, intolerance, and religious extremism. The proof of this statement lies in the collection of crooks, crazies, and cranks the GOP is desperately trying to prop up for the 2012 election. Obama will win by default in 2012 because the once-mighty Republican Party is self destructing. Read 'em and weep.
Fed up Senior - oh the conservative view is very easy to understand. Take the country back a century and relegate women to 2nd class citizens. 'bout wraps it up!
Phinephancy, Uh, yea right. I guess that the 80% of the Green scam giveaway (now in the billions) that went to Obama's special friends and crooks were all working folks. What? did you just come back from the OWS disgrace. What an idiot you are!
FedUp: LOl...who the heck do you think is doing all the work that you claim doesn't matter? It sure as heck isn't the 1% gramps.
Fed up Senior Talking of entitlements, send back your Social Security and drop your medicare. Who needs those dumb entitlements.
Fed up...I'm also a senior. Iworked 45 years for my Social Security and I'm entitled to it. If the SS money had not been stolen by the parties that did, there would be more than enough for a long time. It is still ok for quite a few more years. The rich got rich off of the backs of the workers and then they honored the workers by taking jobs overseas.
John 3638231. Stop calling other posters idiots. Not cool.
John you better post some facts and links to back up your claims. Otherwise you're a liar and the insult you so readily slung applies to you....
Read the article carefully, and one will find Romney's meaning, and intent, presented to the "South Carolinians. Gobbledy-Gook and scatter respectively. The man said nary a thing worth the effort of breath.
republicans and facts are oil and water...
FedUpSenior, I understand Conservative thinking very well, do you. Here, maybe this will enlighten you, but I doubt it. What is it they say, can't teach an old dog new tricks. Conservatives
Hey heartlight..maybe because back then america wasnt owned by the corporations
Obama doesn't understand America, the economy, the working class, the Tea Party, etc., but he sure does understand OWS.
I seem to think President Obama understands working Americans - the middle/lower classes. I do know for a fact that none of the GOP candidates know anything but what their corporate masters tell them.
Corporate master Phine? Is that why an Obama donor received a 433 million bid for an unproven smallpox vaccine that was an open bid, changed to no bid once Obama realized they didn't fit the bid requirements? Check out Siga Technologies. It was on the front page of most major newspapers. The corruption in this contract from Obama is worse than Solyndra. You won't read it on First Read or see it on MSNDC as they protect Obama at every turn. Obama's Dollars for Donors program is the epitome of having a corporate master.
Hey Rocco, tell me more - with a credible link!
Just ask GE CEO Immelt, Obama's government "job czar".
@ Bruce Here is one link to the story
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9777-433m-contract-goes-to-firm-controlled-by-billionaire-democrat-donor
It was also reported in the LA Times.
Hey Bruce, You can also read it on the Chicago Tribune website. Pretty disgusting if you are a Dem or the GOP. I do like the spin though, under Bush, it was no bid contracts. Under Obama, it is called "Sole-source". Got to give Haxelrod some credit for that spin.
Considering OWS represents the 99% then that's just dandy Obama understands it.
Yep, Obama doesn't seem to understand the billionaire class, he just doesn't understand why the Oil Companies just have to have those big tax subsidies or why their record breaking multi-billion annual profits simply aren't enough. He doesn't understand the 1% executive class, and their need to crush labor unions, their need to force workers into accepting below-minumum wages, their desire to eliminate safety and environmental regulations that might reduce their profits.
But he does understand the remaining 99%.
Here is the Tribune link
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-na-smallpox-20111113,0,4161068.story
Obama is doing nothing for the middle class except making life harder. It is him that does'nt understand the middle class, Now I am not saying he doesn't understand the LOW class. That's where the bulk of his understanding is.
are you right wing nitwits serious.
I can't think of one thing that has helped keep the working class prosperous since Clinton left.. and Clinton didn't help with NAFTA either, but he definitely did not leave GWB with more then $7 trillion in debts and a unregulated banking system that spread toxic assets around the globe that they created by the lack of regulations signed by GWB.. and who gave profitable oil corps subsidies, and why is that Ok ????? Heck the loser stopped looking for Al Quida and Osama Bin Laden so he can pursue another extremely expensive war.
who spent trillions on ill advised war in Iraq and tried to pay for it with tax breaks and subsidies to big oil.... Who boldly claimed that deficits don't matter ? and how many times did Reagan raise taxes ???
Solyndra might be a black eye but the subsidies Bush gave profitable oil corps who have recorded record profit and record profit.
bush spent Billions on give aways to already profitable oil corps who were raking it in with ever increasing high price of oil
and who was importing all those Chinese solar panels on the cheap to put a business like Solyndra into bankruptcy ? yeah that is free market working for the people right there
but I fully agree with the right wing that over zealous monetary influence has corrupted ever single facet of America...
certainly romney doesn't understand who the middle class is, he thinks he belongs. i never thought romney was racist, but it must be his mormon upbringing?
Yea, Romney is clearly way off. (sracasm)
Obama ranks low among recent incumbents
" 52% saying they disapprove of how Obama is handling his job in the White House ... Obama's 46% approval ranks above only Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford - who both lost their re-election bids - in November of the year before an election"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/15/cnn-poll-obama-ranks-low-among-recent-incumbents/?hpt=hp_t3
pjam...and yet Obama still outpolls anyone in the Republican field including Romney...GEE (sarcasm)...you'd actually have to lose to someone who could win, wouldn't ya? Better start eyeing 2016...
Boy, I fell sorry for the remaining members of the Obama cult
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2011/05/presidential-sweepstakes-20-years-ago.html
You are never going to know what hit you.
Kind of like last November- next November is going to leave in in such a state of shock you won't recover until the next presidential election..
Next time, please nominate the qualified candidate, rather than the one you think is "cool". That has not worked out too well for the country.
You making some big promises based up weak and selective evidence, no joe. You're going to have to do more than that to prop up your shattered fantasy world.
The hard fact is the GOP is reaping the bitter harvest it has sown. It hitched its cart to the Tea Party movement because the TP originally appeared to be a force for governmental refom, but thanks to the efforts of O'Donnell, Palin, Angle, and others too despicable to mention it has devolved into nothing more than a high, shrill voice of the right wing lunatic fringe. Now the Republican Party is trying desperately to separate itself from this debacle by throwing populist wannbes into the void left by the failed TP. These weaklings have names like Perry, Cain, and Gingrich and each of them are sinking out of sight as soon as they open their mouths and as their pasts inevitably catch up to them. Waiting patiently is the GOP's most likely candidate, Mitt Romney, and the religious right, whose support the Republicans have cultivated so assiduously, is saying publicly and privately that they are not going to back any candidate who is a Mormon. The Republican Party is preparing to self-destruct and they have engineered their own demise.
Obama will win in 2012 virtually by default.
Talk about Fantasies.
Your opinion is not a fact, MT- no matter what you call yourself, your writing style gives you away.
The Chicago Teibune put a lot of effort into compiling that article- all you have to do is read it. (by the way, I was backing Tsongas- he dropped out before the NJ primary).
Looked for all the world like GHW Bush was a shoo-in. Came as news to Clinton- who, by the way, was not polling all that well in 1991.
Funny how things work out. . .
Keep that attitude no joe. That's all you'll have to comfort yourself after Obama easily takes a second term. "Funny how things work out..."
Yeah funny. When your party does nothing but break the historical record for filibusters and impeding any progress on the economy during a recession, and when your party spreads conspiracies and lies as if they were fact, your party loses. Funny how things work out.
The Chicago "Teibune" published the article, no joe, but it was just a column written by a staff writer who was merely pointing out that the Republican Party is not a complete write-off, despite all evidence to the contrary. There is not a word in the column to suggest the author believes the GOP's desperate efforts to field a candidate are going to result in a win in 2012.
You need to actually read the sources you use to support your fantasies, little man.
Fail.
Ummm... I don't know how to break this to you Sailcat, but, the nut job from NJ is actually a ma'am! ;o)
Don't you mean EPIC fail? lol
Thanks, Feisty! I guess I should have said "little person"! LOL!
Her ravings still cannot be supported by anything remotely resembling facts, however!
Happy to oblige!
Trust me, I have been reading her garbage for almost 4 years and it does not get any better with age! ;o)
She is so blinded by of her hatred of President Obama, she cannot see straight let alone form a cognitive thought!
I am in awe of you and your ability to take her apart with surgical precision!
Thanks Feisty, but you're no slouch, yourself! Well done!
Hmmm...then she must LUV her some Christie...and must be crying buckets he is not running for president!
poor no joe: still thinking one of these republican clowns falling by the wayside day by day over their own idiocy and incompetency are going to somehow pull themselves together and figure out how to win the Presidency? Every one of these candidates makes the impossible possible...They make George Bush look like a genius. After 8 years of the worst Presidency in modern times, we've only begun to recover. There's no way this country is going to embrace the same failed policies, the same trickle down, war mongering, culture war division, neanderthal policies of those years. As one columnist put it, this has to be the weakest Republican field of candidates since Wendell Wilkie (and you're about to watch the same result).
NoJo:
What's up with you posting 3/4 of the way down the page? This isn't like you at all...getting a bit desperate, are you?
EPIC FAIL! All your base are belong to us...
During his press conference in Hawaii, President Obama referenced being "here in Asia."
GOP candidate gaffes are the lead story on NBC News every night..and there have been many....
Somehow this gaffe will be missed, no doubt.
Bob, we have all these Republicans trying to get the nomination, but not even their own party wants any one of them, and you want us to get a tickle because YOU say the POTUS misspoke? Can you be more petty?
"you want us to get a tickle because YOU say the POTUS misspoke? Can you be more petty?"
95% of the posts in here are petty insults at Republicans...There is headline news on NBC every time a GOP candidate makes a flub, and they have made many...Yet you claim it is petty to mention the President misspoke?
Petty insults?? Like laughing at the guy who didn't even know what side the President took on Libya (needed that so he could know the right answer was the opposite....as though groping women weren't enough of a disqualifier.) Or like laughing at the jokester who thinks you get mental retardation from immunizations? Or the Texan who has proven all hat and no cattle by not even being able to remember his own central platform to his campaign?? yeah...you may call that petty...the rest of America is laughing at the pathetic field called the Republican contenders.
Or the tea bagger who was proud John Wayne hailed from her hometown only to be informed it was, in fact, serial killer John Wayne Gacy? The point is that flubs occur to everyone. Obama has acknowledged slips of the lip but can anyone point to a Republican saying he or she made an error and correcting him or herself?
Neither can I.
John Wayne Gacy. I mean, damn.
BOB, I read that too.
Obama was standing at a podium on Sunday in Hawaii and he said "....here in Asia....".
Hey Mr.President........there are 2 things you need to nail down.....
Hawaii is in the U.S. and you were BORN there!
That bus already left the station, Leona. Fail.
TO: Bob-1887910 who wrote:
"you want us to get a tickle because YOU say the POTUS misspoke? Can you be more petty?"
Good. That means 95% of the posters are Obama Supporters.
Obama / Biden 2012 !
Obama breaks another record.....
On top of presiding over
1) the longest period in american history with an unemployment rate over 8.5%
2) The first downgrade of US credit rating
3) and now the highest price of gasoline at this time of the year.
Romney continues to smoke all the republicans at the debates and he will make mince meat out of obama next year. Place your wagers on intrade now!
It would not be hard at all to "smoke" the field running today in the GOP debates. And the only mincemeat that Mittens will be making is for his Thanksgiving pie next year.
I know that Christmas is approaching, but even Santa can't deliver your nightmarish delusions.
Romney/McDonnell 2012!
Mitt understands AMERICA??? LOL...oh, my that's a good one!!!
Rob,
“the longest period in american history with an unemployment rate over 8.5%” – Not True
During the Great Depression unemployment was above 10% for 11 years and above 15% for 8 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
The streak will end next November.
Obama ranks low among recent incumbents
" 52% saying they disapprove of how Obama is handling his job in the White House ... Obama's 46% approval ranks above only Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford - who both lost their re-election bids - in November of the year before an election"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/15/cnn-poll-obama-ranks-low-among-recent-incumbents/?hpt=hp_t3
We all see the link PJam09. What is your point?
Okay Dennis ---- obama is the worst president since the great depression. thanks for correcting me.
Rob - even the most ignorant have to admit that Obama walked into this mess. He didn't cause the longest period of unemployment - that clearly rests with Bush. And, he didn't kill over 4000 American Soldiers for his ego - all Bush. He didn't waste trillions on needless wars - again Bush. The list goes on and on and on!!!
Yea, he is SO popular with the evangelical crowd, I can see them now, tingling with excitement as he speaks. Not to mention the flip flop flip flop flip flop.......... If you don't chose Huntsman, give it up, the rest are either bat@!$%# crazy, morally compromised or nobodies. If you can't see it now, just wait. My money is on Obama.
Rob: no your man Bush was the worst President ...two wars begun, off the books and on lies, massive tax cuts to placate the greedy old party, and then complete panic as the economy careened to the brink of disaster...along with the war on women, war on science and war on American values (torture is now not known as torture if we do it). Bush will go down in history as the most incompetent fool of the modern era. Obama has only begun to bring us back from that debacle...you will have to wait for 2016 at your shot at remaking your party into something that can actually field an adult candidate.
Right on the money, lib50. Obama is going to win this election by default.
and dennis,maybe you should concider the fact that in the 1930's they used real numbers to come up with the unemployment rate.
now they use only the numbers of people drawing their 2 years of unemployment checks to come up with their percentages
At least base your claims on something that isn't hard to look up:
Unemployment During the Great Depression
Average rate of unemployment
in 1929: 3.2%
in 1930: 8.9%
in 1931: 16.3%
in 1932: 24.1%
in 1933: 24.9%
in 1934: 21.7%
in 1935: 20.1%
in 1936: 16.9%
in 1937: 14.3%
in 1938: 19.0%
in 1939: 17.2%3
aomize,
During the Great Depression unemployment reached a high at 25%.
During this recession the highest level of total unemployed and underemployed which includes those that have given up seeking employment was at 19% and is now at about 15%.
I can't wait to hear the "gems" that come out of Biden's mouth when a VP debate takes place.
Biden is a gaffe machine the likes of which we have never seen.
That's going to be a "BIG F@#$%# DEAL." haha
Your comments are asinine but irrelevant, Leona. Sit down and eat your pork rinds.
TO: Rob in ma-3189632 who wrote:
Well hell, that's what Republicans left us with !
Republicans caused a total economic meltdown, and NOW demand that the Democrats hurry up and fix it? Plus, Republicans run all the oil companies. Why not call one of your connections and tell them to come down a bit on the price of oil?
All that crap you got numbered up there all was put on the backs of the American People by Republicans and the Bush Administration, THEN on top of that, all Republicans have done is been totally obstructionist as possible and continue to bring further damage to the American People, delusionally hoping that Republicans will be awarded for all the damage they've brought down on us.
You've got to be nuts.
pjam, makes 6. How many times are you going to post is.
"2) The first downgrade of US credit rating"
Brought to you by the Tea Party who refused to allow the debt ceiling to rise until after the downgrade.
"3) and now the highest price of gasoline at this time of the year..."
Again, love the picking of time periods to make your point. You'll note that gasoline is MUCH lower than it was in April-October 2008. See here and download the data to see: http://www.eia.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_history.html
"President Obama doesn't understand America."
Subliminal message: "How can a black Kenyan Muslim understand a country foreign to him?" (I want to see his birth certificate, again)
So Rasputin,
any criticism at all of this failure of a President is racist and means one believes Obama was born in Kenya?
Quite a stretch.
There's no stretch big enough for the lunatics of the right, the Reps. and the TP.
They've done it openly and now covertly, but they still think Obama is a foreigner. And a Muslim.
The tactic of accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being a racist has been so overused that it has ceased to have any meaning at all. That horse has been dead so long that continuing to beat on it just makes it stink worse. Its time to pull yourself out of the hypersensitive past and come up with some real arguments to bolster your point of view.
The second-place dead horse is blaming Bush for Obama's failures.
No, Kannin. Disagreeing with someone does not make you a racist. Nobody said it did. What does make you a racist is showing up at Tea Party rallies with signs that say "Obama = N****r", or pictures of the President as a monkey or an African witch doctor, or make jokes about watermelons on the white house lawn or "hip hop barbecues." Or claim that he can't possibly be a real American because his skin is black and he has an unusual name. These are the things we're talking about when we say Obama's opposition is racist.
As far as blaming Bush, it is a FACT that his actions led to financial failures. It is a FACT that he lied about the war and it is a FACT that he was looking in the wrong place for Bin Laden. What's wrong with blaming him for things that actually are his fault? You can't just forget about everything that happend prior to 2008 and pretend everything started the day Obama was inaugurated. Yet that's exactly what too many people on the Right do.
Thank you Cameron! Well written and sadly, the truth!
Seeing that you brought up race Rasputin....
How about a little honesty? Obama would not have been the democrat nominee had he not been Black. Obama would never have won the election if he wasn't black.
And finally, if obama was not black he would have a democrat challenger right now seeking the democrat nomination.
Those are not opinions those are facts!
I TOTALLY disagree with that. I think he won in spite of his race, certainly not because of it. If Hilary would have won it would have been the same. Obama had the message and was fresh, we liked what he said and thought he was the best person for the job. We were all bushed out and knew McCain's policies (exactly like current republican polices) were part of what put us in the crapper.
@lib50 I would have agreed with you until I read this.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/should-race-matter-in-president-obamas-reelection-bid/2011/10/18/gIQAoDmP1L_story.html
There were at least as many people who voted against Obama because he is half African as voted for him for his skin color. The deciding votes came from people who wanted to get away from the GOP's destructive, hateful, and divisive policies. The upcoming election will see a replay of 2008: an Obama win and a resounding vote against right wing political extremism.
Rob,
Those are, in fact, opinions. Because there is no way you could know that Obama wouldn't have become those things if he weren't black. If Hillary had managed to become the Democrat nominee and gone on to the Presidency, would you be saying the same thing, but replacing "black" with "woman"?
Obama's failure as President stems from the fact that his background is academia and community organizing.
What a college professor knows works in theory only. They have no idea how the REAL world operates. They especially know NOTHING about JOB creation.
Romney 2012.
LEONA
Exactly how much does Mitt Romney know about job creation? He made his fortune buying up companies and then outsourcing the labor and selling off the remains.
Think he'll create any jobs in the US with that business strategy? It hasn't worked yet in 30 years of trickle down and outsourcing.
So Obama is too smart to be effective, Leona? Following your fractured logic, this country needs an idiot as a president...which explains your support of the current crop of GOP candidates, of course.
I'm not sure you're ready for prime time, Leona. Damn.
Wow Leona: that is a really NOVEL argument. Vote Republican. At least their DUMB. Hey, let's see how that works for ya shall we?
Leona just gave us a twofer laugh,...she's ridiculing education and academia;
She must not 'know' nojo's bio, right?
Either way, we win.
Can anyone post a Pic or a link where the N word was used on a sign at a TP meeting. Ive observed several TP events,( I did not attend, but wanted to observe) to confirm or disprove what I was hearing from the left. The tp events (3 of them) I observed had a well rounded blend of people
Here you go!
http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader
Jaysus - they couldn't even spell it correctly!
WOW!
The interesting thing is the identity of the person who is reputed to be holding the sign: Dale Robertson, founder and president of TeaParty.org. Should we be surprised?
Hey kettle, this is the pot...you're black.
Add that to your list of ethereal GOP talking points...right up there with "American Exceptionalism" and claims to being more patriotic and "owning the flag".
Da Noid, I love the "bringing America back" thing. My problem is I didn't know it had left. Where did it go? See, my Rand/McNally says it is on the North Americans continent, but my copy is a couple of years old. Did it move to Antarctica? Inquiring minds want to know.
Yes, it's time to take our country back!
...but from whom?
This bumper sticker is now available -- YOU can take your country back. I'm taking mine forward!
Try Cafe Press. They tend to have a good assortment.
Easy. The 1% executive class wants to "take it back" from the 99% working class.
We need to "take the country back" from the 1% ( i.e. N.Pelosi, and the rest of the RICH Democrat hypocrites).
We, the American tax payers, are making the Democrats RICHER with the dollars they are sinking into "GREEN" company money pits.
Leona
The energy company money pits are OIL companies. They make BILLIONS in profits annually, and get tax breaks. The Koch brothers may be behind many of the green energy failures. They also pay for scientists to come up with studies to disprove global warming. Why? because they are oil men.
Business men do not belong in the government because the government is not a business. Business men maximize profits, but government supports services that business does not find interesting: police, fire fighting, teachers, roads and bridges, air traffic control, military, post office, counseling and treatment for the disabled, addicts, the poor, the elderly, the sick. None of these things are businesses and none of them should be treated as businesses.
Corporations are not people, as Mr. Romney claims, and business men should stick to the private sector.
Have you all heard about the new interview with Herman Cain coming out next week in GQ? I have been hearing bits and pieces of it for the past couple of days. It will either finish off his campaign or thrust him back to the top.
As though the 5 minute humiliation this week, when he had to ask the journalists what side Obama had favored in Libya, wasn't enough?? Just how low can the Republican bar sink??
At least Romney understands America - or more accurately he understands 1% of America.
That puts him 1% ahead of Obama, unless of course, you include foreigners residing in America illegally.
Nope, Romney can not win--no more than foreigners residing in America illegally can vote...but if that fiction makes you feel better about losing this election.......
Romney is now pandering and loosing sight of his values. Truly unfortunate.
Of the group, I suspect only Ron Paul has a valid birth certificate, driver's license and certified integrity. The rest are willing to say and do whatever the extremists want them to do.
What are you talking about? Ron Paul is the most extreme of the bunch!
Yes Ron paul is the most extreme, however, he's not really ever hid that extremism (some just don't want to see it). Romney however is even worse...will tell anyone anything they want to hear, no matter who he sells out.
Ron Paul has integrity because he says what he believes. There is no doubt where he stands. Romney is waffling, and the others are just disconnected from middle America.
Unfortunately, Paul's beliefs are not good for the country and his party does not like him anyway.
Jennifer - You are correct!
WGN; How about Huntsman? Of course, he is sane and reasonable and centrist; which I guess disqualifies him from the republican nomination.
Is he sure he wasn't thinking of Herman Cain, who said if you aren't rich it's because you are lazy?
Actually, that's a standard GOP accusation about middle and working class America: Don't have a job? It's your fault, you're lazy. Not rich? It's your own fault, you're lazy.
I think Mitt better turn that mirror on himself and his own party before he criticizes others for statements taken out of context,
Any time a centi-millionaire, Mormon Harvard MBA from Utah is talking about "understanding Americans" that's a person who is surely surveying the world through a glass navel. I am not sure what Mitt knows other than how to buy a company for beans, strip out the "expenses" (jobs), borrow up to the hilt when the stock goes up, take the dough and split, leaving a barely functioning over leveraged zombie company that later falls over and dies. He knows the financial games used to steal the sweat off an honest worker's brow. Jesus threw the Money Lenders out of the temple.
At Bain Capital, Romney helped start new companies and turned around failing ones. He was behind the start up of Staples. Starting with one store in 1986, Staples now is the world's largest office products company with $24 billion in sales in 2009. (4),(6) He also helped companies such as Sealy, Brookstone, The Sports Authority, and Domino's. (4)
These companies employ hundreds of thousands of US workers.
What is even more noteworthy is the fact that he never blamed the previous management for his own difficulties – he just fixed what was wrong.
Fixed what was wrong by eliminating how many jobs?? Come on...that's "understanding America"?? yeah, right.
AP - What part of "These companies employ hundreds of thousands of US workers." do you not understand?
So you can mention a few "successes" for Bain Capital, even though most of those were profitable businesses before Bain got control, and many saw their biggest successes after Bain sold them off.
But of course Kannin won't ever mention the companies that were completely eviscerated by Bain, or the companies that were severely reduced with jobs shipped overseas, or the thousands of workers laid off then re-hired with lower wages and fewer benefits, or the hundreds of thousands of workers that were laid off permanently.
Total up all the US workers at companies before the Bain takeovers, with the number of US workers still employed after Bain was done with those companies, it is still an overall loss of hundreds of thousands of US jobs.
Kanin: what part of private equity firm do you not understand?? This isn't about job creation. This is about profits. That means REDUCED jobs. What the heck do you think a private equity firm does?? His takeovers did not CREATE jobs...he's not BUILDING new companies, he's putting together wreakage-- where the heck do you think the profits come from? I've got no beef with Romney making a fortune over these mergers and takeover deals...I do have a beef with anyone proclaiming that experience amounts to job creation and thus prepare him to lead a country-what a sick, sick joke he is playing counting on anyone to believe that absurd claim. He didn't create jobs as Governor and he sure as heck didn't do it as head of his private equity firm.
Mittens should be worried that NOBODY understands him, especially the TeaPeople!
I understand what direction he wants this country to go. That being back to the plantation days when the ruling class had complete control over the common folk.
Go back in history and check out when the common folk worked for little and the business owners owned the "company stores" where the workers money simply reverted back to the employers.
For the last 10 years or so an unacceptable amount of money has floated to the top thereby leaving not enough in the economy to sustain our past living standards. Point being if poachers fish the lake dry you can't get a bite no matter how had you try.
Pipe dream and wishful thinking on my part, but wouldn't it be wonderful if we all didn't purchase anything for Christmas, just had great meals and homemade items. Wouldn't it be great if all the office workers just stopped doing that for a few days. Wouldn't it be great if we all occupied our towns.
Just dreaming!
Im so god you two brain trusts found each other.
So, Cathy- why don't you ripen your little pipe dream past David Axelrod? See how he reacts to your idea of causing another economic cataclysm on Obama's watch.
Do it on television, okay? That way, if I miss it, it will go viral on YouTube.
I just love liberals- and this forum? Great. Every idiotic notion they come up with, right here for all the world to see.
Ha! This, coming from a guy who says "corporations" are people too.
Families are people; political parties are people, neighborhoods are people, sports teams are people; corporations are people. Clouds are not people; mountain ranges are not people. Get it?
Hey Kannin, whose payroll are you on?
Anyway, Willard can say whatever he wants about the president, because what he doesn't realize, anybody who gets that nomination, and refuses to talk about raising taxes, and closing loopholes is going to LOSE! The GOP and their corporate overlords can't seem to understand that the jig is up! And no amount of big-business, so-called 'grassroots' nonsense propaganda is going to change that!
Sooner or later, greed catches up with anybody. The GOP ran out of people to screw over, and started going after a lot of people who used to vote for them, despite being in unions (i.e. teachers, firefighters, police, auto workers).
Willard can run his mouth now, but if he wins the nomination, he still has to get on a stage with President Obama, and then we'll see who understands what....
The entire GOP seems to be spouting talking points like somebody is holding a gun to their heads!
I'm just trying to protect myself. The payroll I'm on, and the payroll of anyone who actually works for a living, is badly threatened by Obama's policies. If Obama is reelected many more will be out of work and on the government dole.
Are you sure clouds are not people? Because I saw quite a few this morning that looked like Herman Cain, Romney, Gingrich, even Bachmann and that one had a lot of wind to help it along.
No, Kannin, you're confusing one of the components with the entire structure. Neighborhoods are more than just "people", it also includes buildings, sidewalks, roads and more. Sports teams are more than just people, they include uniforms and sporting equipment. Corporations aren't just people, they also includes all the assets - buildings, machinery, office furniture, etc. I've yet to see any person that had buildings, machinery, furniture, roads, uniforms, sports equipment, etc. as part of themselves.
A house can be constructed with bricks, but a house is not a brick. Similarly, families or political partie smay be composed of people, but they are not "persons". Neighborhoods, sports teams, and corporations may include individual people as part of their operations, but they are not "people".
If we were to accept the insane notion of "Corporations are people", then logically we'd have to ban the purchase of corporations, as buying people is slavery and is illegal. One corporation taking over and incorporating another corporation would logically have to be considered "cannibalism" or even murder, and would result in arresting and jailing entire corporations. We don't accept such insane notions. Get it?
Nonsense. No one's "payroll" is threatned under Obama. Geez you guys need to get your talking points straight. I thought the new ditto head points were about Wall Street loving the guy??
Kannin: Corporations ARE NOT PEOPLE. People might work at corporations. The board of directors and the CEO might be people, but the CORPORATION itself is not a PERSON! The corporation named PAM AM died but the the people that worked for the corporation didn't die with PAM AM's death. Do you get that?
Political parties are NOT PEOPLE. Again people might BELONG to a particular party but the political party itself is NOT A PERSON. The Whig Party died but the people that belonged to that party didn't die with the death of the Whig Party. Do you get that?
Neighborhoods are made up of families, both of which are made up of people, but neither is a PERSON! The Five Points neighborhood in Manhattan is dead but the people and families that lived there didn't die once that neighborhood stopped existing. Do you get that?
When a corporation would rather fire hundreds if not thousands of people who support their families so that the few top executives can keep their million dollar salaries/bonuses the corporation doesn't even care about people let alone be a person. Do you get that?
Aren't farmers in Alabama having a hard time finding field hands because Americans don't want to do those jobs even though Alabama has a high unemployment rate? That would seem a bit lazy to me.
However Obama was talking about CEO's who are too lazy to help America create jobs in America. Mitt Rommey seems to be taking what Obama said out of context.
When our politicians would rather keep us relying on fossil fuels rather than invest in alternative fuel sources we would seem not be be so innovative. When China followed by Germany outpace America as a world leader of green energy production the USA would have seemed to have lost it's innovative ways.
Does anybody get that?
Republicans would rather keep the tax breaks that the wealthy have enjoyed for over 10 years not in place but doesn't seem to keep the payroll tax break that everyone that derives income from a paycheck in place. Allowing that payroll tax break to expire is raising taxes on people the earn a paycheck. And people what to call political parties a PERSON. REALLY!?!?
I first saw Mitt when I was a young boy in Michigan and I attended his high schools football game. I will never forget it. It was a beautiful day and when I looked out onto the field,there he was !!! Mitt was at the 20 !! the 30!! the 40 !!! His baton Twirling in the sun !!!! ( better than twirling in his head I guess)
Cowboy start writing comedy, seriously.
Romney is just as stupid as the rest of the GOP field.
And know one is talking about how poor this field is when it comes to international policy, waterboarding is the only thing they know about, one doesn't know where Libya is, George Bush had no idea who lead Chechnya, Perry from Texas is bound to get us into more conflicts, cause he's going to Washington, and "their going to do it my way the Texas way or hell to pay for it." What a joke, what are those GOP people electing?????????? Oh yah, I'm behind Israel on every issue, VOTE FOR ME. It would be nice if the whole world was Israel and the U.S. then we wouldn't need solid foreign policy.
Gabby could debate circles around these clowns !!!!!
Romney is a flip-flopping fool. Nominate him, PLEASE.
Will do, Bob.
Not only that , we will elect him President .
Not if my vote counts, I refuse to elect another so called "fiscal" responsible Republican into office so we can watch our debt soar and listen to them blame everyone else for it.
Corporations are NOT "people". Get it, numbnuts?
You must love fascism, as you are here braying heartily for it.
Rumor has it Mitt is changing his stance on same sex marriage. The plan is to divorce his wife,(it worked for newt) and then he plans on marrying comedian Flip Wilson. He has already started the paperwork to have his name legally changed to......... Flip Romney...........
Wasn't it Flip Wilson who said he belonged to the "Church of What Ever is Happening Now". Romney fits right into Fip's thinking.
Alfred E. Newman, I like Alfred E. Newman in 2012. Alfred is at least consistent, ask him a question, he answers consistently: "what! me worry?" Ya know pretty much what you get with Alfred. Wit Mitt, (short for Mitford, kinda catchy and preppy like Biff or Buff or Boff), Mitt-he rolls for dough.