Cain on Libya: 'I got all this stuff twirling around in my head'

Herman Cain suffered his own memory lapse in response to a question about Libya just days after Rick Perry's campaign tumbled following Perry's debate misstep.

Cain struggled for an answer when asked by the editorial board of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel whether he agreed with President Obama's approach toward Libya.

Cain said:

OK, Libya. [Pause] President Obama supported the uprising, correct? President Obama called for the removal of Khaddhafy. I just wanted to make sure we're talking about the same thing before I say, 'Yes, I agreed' or 'No I didn't agree.' I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason -- nope, that's a different one. [pause] I gotta go back and see. I got all this stuff twirling around in my head. Specifically, what are you asking me that I agree or not disagree with Obama?

Cain had previously criticized Obama's handling of the uprising in Libya in a debate this spring. Cain accused the administration of lacking clear objectives in Libya -- or, for that matter, Syria -- and called for the U.S. to develop a foreign policy strategy for each nation on earth.

The moment, though, invites parallels with Perry's moment of forgetfulness during last week's presidential debate. Perry struggled to remember the identity of the third federal agency he would eliminate.

Obama had weathered criticism from some GOP presidential contenders at the time for having authorized U.S. military airstrikes to aid the uprising against Kaddhafy's regime. Kaddhafy was captured and killed last month in Libya.

Cain has previously said that he didn't feel the need to master every detail of foreign policy issues, a sentiment he reiterated in his interview with the Journal-Sentinel, which was conducted on the record for about 30 minutes this morning.

I'm a much more deliberate decision-maker. It's a point that I keep coming back to. Some people want to say, 'Well, as president, you're supposed to know everything.' No you don't. I believe in having all the information, as much of it as I possibly can, rather than making a decision or making a statement about whether I totally agree or didn't agree, when I wasn't privy to the entire situation. There might be some things there that might have caused me to feel differently. So I'm not trying to hedge on the questions, it's just that that's my nature as a businessman -- I need to know the facts, as much as possible, I need to hear all the alternatives...I would want to hear all those views, look at the information, then I make the decision as the commander in chief.

This isn't the first time Cain has risked looking dismissive on foreign policy issues, either. He said, for instance, that he didn't feel the need to known the name of the president of Uzbekistan.

"I’m ready for the ‘gotcha’ questions and they’re already starting to come. And when they ask me who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan I’m going to say, you know, I don’t know. Do you know?" he asked in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network last month.

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whether he agreed with President Obama's approach toward Libya.

Damn Gotcha questions?

They will get you every time! lmao

I got all this stuff twirling around in my head

Why is Hermie comparing his head to a toilet?

Help yourself to some scrubbing bubbles Hermie...

  • 144 votes
#1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:11 PM EST

This is a much bigger lapse than Rick Perry's momentary brain fog the other day.

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#1.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:26 PM EST

I got all this stuff twirling around in my head. Specifically, what are you asking me that I agree or not disagree with Obama?

Curly is messing up with Larry and Moe:

""We graduated with the highest temperatures in our class."

Gimme a 3 letter word meaning 'rat'." "Meaning 'rat'?" "Yeah." (Ted points to Curly) "Him."

"If you get there first, put a chalk mark." "What'f you get there first?" "Then I'll rub it out."

  • 52 votes
#1.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:35 PM EST

LOL. I suppose for any one of them trying to get the Republican Nomination it would be taboo to tell the truth and simply say, "Yes, President Obama did a great job in Libya by using NATO, and President Obama did a great job getting Bin Laden."

Telling the truth is impossible for all of those Republican losers.

Obama / Biden 2012 !

  • 152 votes
#1.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:48 PM EST

That's what happens when you make crap up on the fly without knowing what your talking about to begin with.

  • 136 votes
#1.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:49 PM EST

Curly is messing up with Larry and Moe:

LOL IRESPOND!

I absolutly adore The 3 Stooges!

My Dad & I would watch them together on Saturday mornings! ;o)

  • 44 votes
#1.5 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:52 PM EST

Go ahead and vote for this idiot. You voted for Bush. You got what you deserved.

Now do it again, because you are far too stupid to have learned your lesson.

You know who you are!

  • 104 votes
#1.6 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST

@ Fesity:

I love them too. However, it is impossible not to compare them now with Cain, Gingrich and Perry -too many similarities-

Perry is Larry

Cain is Moe

Gingrich is Curly

:o)

  • 44 votes
#1.7 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST

Why do conservatives hate intellect so much?

At a certain point, "conservatism", while an ideology I have certain disagreements with, is still a conceivable position to have ... and one arguments can be based on/and argued over.

But when did you guys give up on brains? When did you throw in the towel on basic human intelligence? Has the religious right seriously crippled your party into the caricature that it is ... this bad .. seriously?

If there is one thing the right has always had. It's pride. Regardless If I agree with you or not, at least you had pride. Have you really fallen that far?

What have you become?

  • 101 votes
#1.8 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:02 PM EST

@ Feisty:

I think i got it backwards. Hold on:

Larry: Gingrich

Moe: Perry

Curly: Cain...

Yeah! that is the correct order! enjoy! many shows to come!

  • 30 votes
#1.9 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:04 PM EST

LOL.. does this really surprise anyone? Cain has NO experience in foreign policy.

  • 66 votes
#1.10 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:11 PM EST

I don't get it. He's a Tea Party candidate right? He doesn't have to hear the subject matter of the question. Just "Do you agree with Obama?" and he knows he can just say no. No matter what Obama's stance is.

Jeez I know their script better than he does. It's just 'No' every time Herman. Simple.

  • 79 votes
#1.11 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:14 PM EST

Holy Crap! These GOPers can't remember a darn thing! Perry can't remember which 3 departments he said he'd get rid of because that was never anything more than a talking point, and Cain is having a hard time just trying to remember which of his accusers he's already claimed he "doesn't know." Cain was obviously shocked when he was finally asked a question on another subject, other than his sexual dalliances, so he was caught off guard and had nothing.

  • 62 votes
#1.12 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:15 PM EST

As Cain walked away from the editorial board, he was heard to mutter, "How come I can't have a TelePrompter? TelePrompters know everything."

  • 46 votes
#1.13 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:17 PM EST

Can we pick a leader who does not make this statement ... " I surround myself with people (who you did not elect) and they advise me what to do" Then I make a decision based on what those people teach me.

  • 41 votes
#1.14 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:21 PM EST

Cain just finished his latest interview, and said that if he were POTUS, he would push harder and would get Moammar Gadhafi before the end of his term. He can't explain why Obama has been slow to react to this thread to world security. On a side note, he wants to visit Jeju Island in North Korea for an international summit of the 4 Asian countries that still remain since the Arab Spring.

  • 19 votes
#1.15 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:22 PM EST

TO: ItsAboutTime-3704531 who wrote:

"LOL.. does this really surprise anyone? Cain has NO experience in foreign policy."

Maybe Cain thought "Hum, Italian Deep Dish Pizza" that sounds "foreign."

Cain's "foreign policy" is "more cheeze please, and make mine "Mozarella"

Or maybe Cain just had a "Sarah Palin moment"?

  • 29 votes
#1.16 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:27 PM EST

“That he didn't feel the need to master every detail of foreign policy issues” yet he wants to start a 3rd war with Iran

Apparently he doesn’t feel the need to master anything except harassing women and denying it

And let’s not forget his ridicules tax plan of 9-9-9 which when you do the math = 666

And he has said that God told him to run for the presidency Yes God himself

When you look at the facts Herman “Pepperoni” Cain isn’t fit to run for President and should go back to the only thing he is qualified to do which is delivering Pepperoni Pizzas.

  • 42 votes
#1.17 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:29 PM EST

why doesn't he just come out and say "I'am going to be a hand puppet for the wing nut war mongers. it would be the 1 thing i believe is true.

  • 50 votes
#1.18 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:35 PM EST
Comment author avatarEDD-1008854Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Cain is almost as confused as the Feisty.....Red ....Wig....

  • 6 votes
#1.19 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:37 PM EST
Comment author avatareast coastExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If you don't agree with Cain, you're a racist.

  • 7 votes
#1.20 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:37 PM EST

east coast

If you don't agree with Cain, you're a racist.

I can't be just anti-dumbass Cain?

  • 33 votes
#1.21 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:52 PM EST

here I am

  • 2 votes
#1.22 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:52 PM EST

This is a much bigger lapse than Rick Perry's momentary brain fog the other day.

Naw! Not that I'm taking up for Cain's dumb ass, but Perry brain-farted on something HE would try to do, not something someone else did. Not only that, Perry obviously doesn't understand what each department he would eliminate actually does. That's far worse!

Either way though, since we're talking about Cain, the only reason he's still in the race is because there are still some idiots on the right that are willing to give this fraud the benefit of the doubt.

  • 34 votes
#1.23 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:52 PM EST
Comment author avatarMac-101Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

As a news Junkie and one who has spent years of my life in Islamic Paradises, I'd be hard press to explain why bumpin off a benign dictator who imprisoned Islamic fundamentalist and replace it with a government who uses the Army to run over and murder COPTs and burn churches is a good thing.

Combine that with bumpin off a terrorist who became our Terrorist who killed and interrogated Al Qaeda terrorist and who even took in renditions of Al Qaeda for the US, and we supported Al Qaeda to overthrow Gadaffi and now have Sharia Law throughout the region, is enough to befuddle any mans head. Especially an older Gentlemans. LOL!

But for ALL the Israel haters, I guess it's a good thing. The ME will git hot for winter. Why are American Jews workin to destroy Israel? LOL!

I gather everyone who commented above me thinks the State Dept/Soros' Arab Spring is a good thing. LOL!

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:56 PM EST
Comment author avatar10tacleExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

You petulant liberals are really grasping at straws. Biden has gaffees just about DAILY. And I didn't hear all you liberals mentioning Obama's snafu of 57 states. Besides, when your guy is constantly being fed scripts on the teleprompters, with a main stream media 100% behind him that will NEVER say anything or show anything of him in negative light, then it's easy sailing. Get Obama off the teleprompters and it's "uhhh, uhm, uuuhhhh, I think that, uhhhhhh..............."

And regarding Bin Laden, we have yet to see definitive proof. Come on, all you liberals know you'd be asking the same thing had this happened under Bush's watch. And Obama had very little to do with it. Panetta's CIA and the military did all the heavy lifting...as they had been doing for the previous 10 years.

Go drink your Kool Aid!

  • 12 votes
#1.25 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:58 PM EST

David Walker

I wonder what all of the fuss is about concerning TelePrompters. Can you explain it to me? So many conservatives make such a big issue of the device, as if before TelePrompters no one ever decided what they were going to say before they stepped on stage. Use of the device is, for many, is a major criticism of Barack Obama.

TelePrompters are merely a modern version of note cards, cue cards or speeches typed on paper, except that the device allows the speaker to have more eye contact with the audience. Ironically, the idiot Sarah Palin has made Obama's use of the device more of the issue than almost anyone else and she made her big splash on the national scene reading a speech from a TelePrompter ...... a speech that she did not write. Meanwhile, President Obama is very involved in writing major speeches and wrote all of the speech to the Democratic convention in 2004 when he burst on the national scene.

  • 39 votes
#1.26 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:01 PM EST

10tacle, so when will Republicans be done with their "sour grapes" campaign. Nobody in their right mind is going to put a Pizza Guy in the White House, so why shouldn't we have a little fun?

  • 26 votes
#1.27 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:07 PM EST

Dear Reverent Sharpton, I watch your program everyday and its the best, but yor missing something. The reason these canadates are acting so weird, saying crazy things, and making stupid comments is very simple... Their all sniffing kochcain. Get it, :) lol. keep up the wonderful reporting your doiing its valueble to the american people. Thankee

  • 14 votes
#1.28 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:12 PM EST
Comment author avatarUnhappy-1583758Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

LOL ... You liberals are so funny. First you thought you could change America with your OWS movement and you fell flat on your faces! Second, you thought Obama will be the best president ever?? LOL ..... another joke you guys don't seem to get. I suppose I will let you have this joke about Cain's speech now. My previous experience shows that life will be miserable for you very soon when Obama is finally gone from the White House......

  • 6 votes
#1.29 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:15 PM EST

This party is absolutely collapsing in on itself. Truth, facts and information be damned. I actually miss the days of William F Buckley; I disagreed with him but at least he could recognize fact when he read it and admit when he was incorrect. With these people only rhetoric counts. There is a need for "conservatism" in our political process. It's too bad it was abandoned by the Republican Party.

  • 26 votes
#1.30 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:17 PM EST

What most of you are forgetting is he answered honestly. Ever walk into the house and forget what you came in for; of course. We don't need a robot for president, we need a smart,honest man. This was not a mistake, it was a lapse of memory under pressure; we all do it. I voted for Obamba but am leaning towards your pizza guy now. I just hope the best person wins. Hillary Clinton would be vote.

  • 6 votes
#1.31 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:20 PM EST

I got all this stuff twirling around in my head

Does this include the voice of God telling you to run for the presidency and that you are just like Moses?

“I’m a man of faith, I had to do a lot of praying for this one, more praying than I’d ever done before in my life. And when I finally realized that it was God saying that this is what I needed to do, I was like Moses: ‘You’ve got the wrong man, Lord. Are you sure?’” - Herman Cain - at the Young Republican National Federation in Atlanta

Yeah... that's some stuff swirling all right.

  • 28 votes
#1.32 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:37 PM EST

10tacle

You petulant liberals are really grasping at straws. Biden has gaffees just about DAILY. And I didn't hear all you liberals mentioning Obama's snafu of 57 states. Besides, when your guy is constantly being fed scripts on the teleprompters, with a main stream media 100% behind him that will NEVER say anything or show anything of him in negative light, then it's easy sailing. Get Obama off the teleprompters and it's "uhhh, uhm, uuuhhhh, I think that, uhhhhhh..............."

And regarding Bin Laden, we have yet to see definitive proof. Come on, all you liberals know you'd be asking the same thing had this happened under Bush's watch. And Obama had very little to do with it. Panetta's CIA and the military did all the heavy lifting...as they had been doing for the previous 10 years.

Go drink your Kool Aid!

It's President Obama--not President Biden. The ignorant fools in the GOP change directions on a daily basis and can't get $h*t right. Take it back over to Fox

  • 22 votes
#1.33 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:39 PM EST
Comment author avatarthe thinker-318752Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

SteveYo

Go ahead and vote for this idiot. You voted for Bush. You got what you deserved.

Now do it again, because you are far too stupid to have learned your lesson.

And obama has been such a great study in presidential excellence?

  • 7 votes
#1.34 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:46 PM EST

When you consider the people who are evaluating these possible nominees ... are the same people who tried like hell to give us Palin as VP ... it causes you to pause ....

  • 29 votes
#1.35 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:54 PM EST

Sandtrich : I believe every "true red" republican is "soused" at least 20 out of each 24 hours. This ain't medication. Could be drugs. Appears more likely though, the dimwits are drunk. The media continues to have debates and these candidates are liable to set the holding facility on fire. Drunken Sots!

  • 8 votes
#1.36 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:06 PM EST

I want ten dollars of what "killer cain" is doing. He could be on that new drug the "kochcain."

  • 5 votes
#1.37 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:34 PM EST

Uzbeki beki beki beki stan-stan.

  • 10 votes
#1.38 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:36 PM EST
Comment author avatarusa1967Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzz................Cain & Perry have a couple slips and you libs go nuts!! Where are your comments when biden tells Chuck (he's in a wheelchair) to stand up so they can "see ya". Or obumbo telling everyone that he is going to visit all 57 states!! Talk about hipocrits.

  • 7 votes
#1.39 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:46 PM EST

don97524:

No, I can't explain why the use of TelePrompters is such a big thing. I can only speculate. As one who has used them in the past, your observation about eye contact with the audience is spot-on. Television allows you to invite people into your home as guests. As a guest, you want to make eye contact with your hosts. It's polite and it creates something of a bond.

The right-wing hates the President so much they will complain about anything the President does. Yesterday, one of them observed that he didn't know whether to be embarrassed about the President's apologetic foreign policy approach or his petulant foreign policy approach. It is a pure no-win situation; damned if you do, damned if you don't.

We hear repeatedly about the 57-state error. No matter the President corrected his mistake the same day. He meant he had traveled through the 47 contiguous states and had only the 48th to go. You can see the incredible importance of this point. After all, the right wing hasn't been able to let it go for three years.

Hell, if President Obama ascended to the heavens, the right wing would complain he didn't file a flight plan. If he walked on water, they'd say he didn't know how to swim.

Right now, my most serious complaint about President Obama is that he won't look the right-wing punks in the eye and call them out for the low-intellect bullies they are. I wouldn't mind seeing him grab the Wall Street thieves by the throats and boot their sorry asses into prison.

Of course, I'm going to be demanding that he do that if he wins in 2012 and has a Democratic majority. No more kissy-face. It's time to kick ass and take names.

  • 34 votes
#1.40 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:46 PM EST

Unhappy

It is really not the most important thing in the world that President Obama is "the greatest president ever." Such an assessment is difficult because every president is faced with a different set of issues and challenges. This president's greatest challenge is a Republican congressional mission to oppose everything that he proposes, even when he proposes legislation that they themselves have proposed in the past.

The important thing is that President Obama is superior to anyone on the Republican slate of candidates, and there is no doubt that he is.

  • 27 votes
#1.41 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:09 PM EST

Sandtrich : I believe every "true red" republican is "soused" at least 20 out of each 24 hours. This ain't medication. Could be drugs. Appears more likely though, the dimwits are drunk. The media continues to have debates and these candidates are liable to set the holding facility on fire. Drunken Sots

It can't be pot--I smoke that daily. Gotta be that cheap bourbon, "Fighting Cock, 100 Proof," Of course, they warm up with a couple Hamm's Light---I do believe.

Regarding the "debate a night gang"--why? Why in the hell do these empty suit, fake patriots, subject themselves to ridicule so often. Suffering from CRS

  • 12 votes
#1.42 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:19 PM EST
Comment author avatarRonH-4252070Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No Candidate knows everything about everything, even this inept President in office now. The important thing is to make sure once your elected, to get the best advisers you can in your administration. I think as a successful businessman Cain would surround himself with the best. This President in office now has insulted Israel, has allowed Iran to develop Nuclear Weapons, apologized to the world for America (like they're better ?), Spent us into oblivion and used our tax dollars to fund political paybacks (Solyndra) and now wants his Union payback jobs bill passed (so he can cover the 400 million dollars the Unions give to his election campaign). If Obama is elected for 4 more years, we'll all be eating bugs and living in a thatch hut.

  • 3 votes
#1.43 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:27 PM EST

Unfortunately, Alzheimer's strikes at various ages. Can't remember the women and now can't remember Libya.

  • 11 votes
#1.44 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:37 PM EST

RonH

You give Cain way too much slack on this one. He has criticized President Obama many times for his Libya policy, but cannot defend his position or even re-state his ideas when questioned ...... and as President he would be expected to intelligently discuss issues with foreign heads of state, his cabinet and the American citizens. Not good enough to just have an expert on your staff to call when you need a "lifeline."

  • 19 votes
#1.45 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:40 PM EST
Comment author avatarOBXRonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey listen to these posts all of you flaming Libs..........................Learn to love Cain and Perry and hope to God that one of them is selected to run...................Lib hidden agenda here.

  • 2 votes
#1.46 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:46 PM EST

Does anyone remember that Cain met with Henry Kissinger in New York a couple weeks ago to get some learning on Foreign Policy? He also said he was going to "school" because he'd been too busy working to know how the world worked. He also said he was a business man, not a politician.

  • 7 votes
#1.47 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:47 PM EST

Pizza Boy "Peperoni" Cain is doing a great Job of exposing Conservatives for what they are fakes and liars

Whether it is trickle-down economics or Bush tax cuts, the Conservatives think their theories are the same as facts.

Why do we have such gridlock in Washington? We cannot reach any agreements by debating anymore because Conservatives refuse to accept any facts.

Science is integral to America's success. It not only makes our lives better, but scientific innovation and research, which the GOP wants to cut, creates jobs.

Unfortunately, we are seeing a GOP that rejects science. Stem cell research, which even Nancy Reagan supports, cannot be talked about. Many will not admit climate change or evolution is real. Forget having a real discussion about how tax cuts fail to create jobs.

The GOP ignores everything that doesn't fit into their out dated and proven wrong theories. They ignore economists, scientists, and 99% of the nation. They look students and seniors in the face and tell them they would be better off without Pell Grants and Social Security. Conservatism is, quite simply, ignorance and madness.

  • 17 votes
#1.48 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:48 PM EST

How droll.

If Obama had made a gaffe like this on a foreign policy question, the right would be screaming how unqualified he is to be our President. Cain demonstrates once again that he has no idea what's going on as far as foreign policy, and the right actually claims to respect him more for it.

  • 18 votes
#1.49 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:15 PM EST

I don't believe a president has to be an expert on everything. But a president has to at least have enough knowledge to have an opinion. Nearly anyone with a pulse knows the basics of our involvement in Libya. It's not a difficult question.

  • 15 votes
#1.50 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:29 PM EST

"President Obama called for the removal of Khaddhafy." - Cain

Trying to twist things again msn? It's spelled Gaddafi, which is exactly what he said!

So sad you are reffered to as "news" just like the rest of the media.

I can't wait for the day when people actually read your articles and say, "ok, that's their bias take on this situation. now i'll go research it for myself and go understand the true story."

sadly, most of the people in this worlld don't think for themselves. oh well, their loss!

  • 3 votes
#1.51 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:33 PM EST

Passiveobserver

That's because conservatives believe that ignorance, superstition and lies are a virtual

  • 5 votes
#1.52 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:34 PM EST

LOL ... You liberals are so funny. First you thought you could change America with your OWS movement and you fell flat on your faces! Second, you thought Obama will be the best president ever?

unhappy, I'm glad you are laughing. I know that I am. Herman Cain has once again declared himself an idiot. Listening to his own words, I'm reminded what somebody tweeted about John Henry, the Red Sox owner, "how did somebody that stupid make that much money?"

If I were you, I'd be in despair ...instead of in denial.

Trying to twist things again msn? It's spelled Gaddafi, which is exactly what he said!

So sad you are reffered to as "news" just like the rest of the media.

Nice try, pandas are awesome. This is not a story about a man mispronouncing Moamar Gaddafi's name; the spelling changes every 6 months. It is about a man who aspires to be the leader of the free world being unable to answer the most simple and basic question regarding one of the key world events of 2011.

msnbc did not make this story. Cain did. If you don't believe me, watch the clip (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/45295631#45295631). It is freaking scary.

  • 11 votes
#1.53 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:07 PM EST

pandas,

It's an Arab name, written in Arab script. Its translation into Latin letters is somewhat ambiguous, because the phonetics of the two languages don't mesh. Notice that in English linguistics, a short "G" is just a softened "K" (same mouth movement, different airflow) so technically

Wait, what am I doing? You just turned an alternative spelling into a rant about media bias. Why would I bother?

  • 11 votes
#1.54 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:13 PM EST

The conservatives are actually sending in their very, very best now to run against the President. Their most informed and most educated. Hell, these republicans actually have high school diplomas I think. Haven't seen them but I will give their very, very best at least that much credit.

  • 3 votes
#1.55 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:35 PM EST
Comment author avatarRaider-4158022Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Boy, not very hard to tell who's side MSN is on. One look at this thread and I amazed how many people don't believe we have a LIBERAL controlled media.

Give me a break MSN....do you guys have any integrity?

  • 1 vote
#1.56 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:40 PM EST

This is sad. Alot of sick people with a liberal disorder.

Liberalism is a recognized psychological disorder when adults never mature beyond adolesence. This is enabled by a society that facilitates a surrogate parental authority beyond adolescense, creating the illusion of being a child, keeping reality secret. In our case government is the surrogate. And opprutunist (most leftest leaders) use this sickness to promote thier wealth and power. This is truly Evil as people with this disorder are easily manipulated by media and ideals from politicians that suit thier own personal needs. (Occupy)

I can say the same for Conservatives, Traditionally religous peoples are weak minded and are taught the parental authority is in their faith. And are just as manipulated by anyone who promotes (promises) their ideals. (Radical islam or baptist churchs).

In conclusion I beg everyone to take a step back and not look at politics as a sporting event. Who did what when where and how doesnt matter. Look at who is taking control of our future. If Herman Cain forgets something its irrelevent. It shouldnt be news. Liberals and conservatives both need to stand together and vote for the non politician.

  • 2 votes
#1.57 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:41 PM EST

Freethinker: You need to stand back and look at your own logic. Cain continues to fail the test of being in the national spotlight and can't even think of why he doesn't support a very basic and CURRENT event. After given time to think about why he doesn't support Obama's handling of Libya, he deferred to saying he "would want to know who the opposition was and he is sure the CIA could tell him." What the hell does that even mean? Is he assuming Obama didn't ask anyone about anything?

I can't imagine this man as President. If a "non-politician" were in the running and earned my trust throughout their campaign, I would consider supporting them. Cain hasn't passed the test and clearly he is cracking under all of the pressure. This won't be the last of his flubs.

You giving him a pass for his recent string of incidents is no better than those who put their blinders on and felt Sarah Palin was qualified to run the country, and that her not being able to name a single magazine she reads is a "got ya" question.

  • 9 votes
#1.58 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:52 PM EST

actually, what i was referring to was the fact that most of the united states spells it gaddafi, so spelling it otherwise is an attempt to make him look stupid, it's a slight attempt at his intellignece if you didn't pick up on the obviousness of it... obama can't speak without a teleprompter and doesn't know anything about foreign policy, yet all of the articles are about cain who didn't put forward his foreign policy right away and instead decided to think about it for a bit instead of of just blurting it out and rushing into it like obama has done repeatedly during his admin (examples: sargent cowley vs gates, libya, the arizona/alabama immigration laws, etc.)... so he had a "duh" moment, which is more than i can say for the "duh" 3 years we have lived with obama... i'll admit, the republican candidates aren't the worlds greatest picks, but i'll take dumb over dumber anyday. in fact, right now i'm saying "man, even though bush wasn't very intelligent, i miss him right now..." and that's saying something.

    #1.59 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST

    Nice point jack

    One flaw and point I vividly made clear is the same thing you call a test (from whom) I call Irrelevent. Support for a current presidents positions or policys should not matter more than what his policies would be in the same position. Both of them should not be compared. That question is designed "either your on our side or not". If anyone answered that, there would be no right answer people support both sides. best thing to do is dance around the question. I believe he handles well

      #1.60 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:06 AM EST

      Pandas--

      "Most Common Spellings

      Both Web searches and academia have ways of discerning what may be the most common spellings of Moammar Gaddafi. When searching for the name "http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oGdFrEZ2VND2QA2uJXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGFvAzEEZnIDeWZwLXQtNzAxBGhvc3RwdmlkA1Uwc2gwVW9HZEl4NGVTNlRUV1VyRHc0RERMS0pkMDFsWjhRQUNuVmQEbl9ncHMDMTAEbl92cHMDMARvcmlnaW4Dc3JwBHF1ZXJ5A2xpYnlhIGxlYWRlcgRzYW8DMQR2dGVzdGlkA0g2MDQ-?p=libya+leader&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701">Libya leader" with a Web search, the top search which appears is "Moammar Gadhafi." Second is "Qaddafi" followed by "Gaddafi."

      Academia and the U.S. government seem to favor using a "Q" for his last name instead of a "G." A recent article by the http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2011/0222_libya_sharqieh.aspx">Brookings Institution spells the name Muammar Qaddafi."

      Making an arse out of yourself and going a bit far.

      • 5 votes
      #1.61 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:10 AM EST

      10tcle - Have you tried using Vaseline to extract your cranium from your nether region. The fresh air will help to clear up your delusions. Hope that helps!

      • 1 vote
      #1.62 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:12 AM EST

      I'm betting Cain could remember what toppings Godfathers offered on their pizza. And none of them were Uzbeki beki beki beki stan stan. What a dolt!

      • 5 votes
      #1.63 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:15 AM EST

      Amused - I agree, I think anyone could remember thier favorite toppings for a pizza. Much easier than uzbeki.... -With out google could would you know the leader? does anyone?

        #1.64 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:22 AM EST

        sandtrich, funny those all look like the most common spellings, except msn decides on "khaddhafy" instead of the "gadhafi" that they have used all along in their stories... sorry you can't see the obvious attempt at making him look dumber than obama. it must suck to buy into media bias. glad i'm not a sheep in the media herd. i'm done pointing out obivous things to you libs, you have google and can look up things for yourself for once. but you'd rather i waste your time while shutting you down right? after all, that's been the way on my last couple of posts.

          #1.65 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:27 AM EST

          waste my time*

            #1.66 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:39 AM EST

            Why does FR go so naturally into the toilet for her/its ideas?

            Why does MSNBC so often give the first opportunity to respond to such a potty-mouthed person with the mentality of a middle school dropout who never grew up? Is that where the liberal left is trolling for new sycophants?

            Is MSNBC's CEO to FlamingRedface as apparently Hollywood's fictional Beavis was to B___H___

            in those noxious "previews" that proved the last straw before we finally unpugged our TV and exiled it to the attic

            while calmly and transcendantly resisting the natural powerful urge to smash it to shivvers with an axe?

            • 1 vote
            #1.67 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:41 AM EST

            freeth1nk3r - I personally don't think anyone needs to know the name of Uzbekistan leader unless your meeting with him. But I do thinks its a problem when a Pres candidates doesn't know China is a nuclear power, talk about stupid.

            • 4 votes
            #1.68 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:52 AM EST

            Pandas Are Welcome:

            Actually it was the Khadaffy, Kaddafi, Quaddafi, Etc regime who refused to provide an official English langauge version of his name. So it is therefore impossible to misspell it as there is no official version--and this is not a new thing--ABC has complied a list of 112 different versions of the spelling:

            http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2009/09/how-many-different-ways-can-you-spell-gaddafi/

            http://www.csmonitor.com/World/2011/0222/Gaddafi-Kadafi-Qaddafi-What-s-the-correct-spelling

            http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/08/rebel-discovers-qaddafi-passport-real-spelling-of-leaders-name/244077/

            Part of the reason his name's spelling has remained so unclear is that Muammar Qaddafi has long refused to use any language other than Arabic in public, despite pervasive rumors that he is fluent in English and Italian. But while Qaddafi could conduct international diplomacy without using English, consular bureaucracy is far less accommodating. A diplomatic passport requires Latinized text, something even the self-described "King of African Kings" could not get around. But he could keep it secret, or at least until now.

            By the way, in your post you wrote "intellignece" was that a LIB plot against you too? LOL (You deserved that)

            I remember reading about this many years ago as well

            So get off that mule! Some people look for conspiracy in anything....

            • 2 votes
            #1.69 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:50 AM EST

            actually, what i was referring to was the fact that most of the united states spells it gaddafi, so spelling it otherwise is an attempt to make him look stupid, it's a slight attempt at his intellignece if you didn't pick up on the obviousness of it...

            Yes, Pandas, and you are mirco-focusing on how MSNBC related Cains' pronunciation of Gaddafi, something nobody gives a hoot about; the name is mispronounced and misspelled every day.

            In doing so, you are trying to deflect peoples' attention away from the Cain's inability to speak intelligently regarding important current events.

            Nice try.

            Cain clearly had no clear idea of recent events in Libya, and seemed to be asking the interviewer if his guesses were correct.

            The impression I got was of a man in the early stages of dementia. On a personal level, that is sad. In the prospective President it is scary.

            How Cain spells or says Gaddafi? Who gives a phuck?

            • 2 votes
            #1.70 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:25 AM EST

            Just would like to note Feisty's collapse as evidence that it's not only the lefties who do collapsing of CoH-friendly posts on these boards. -out-

            How Cain spells or says Gaddafi? Who gives a phuck?

            Hmm, since it was a quote - was it really Cain spelling it? It doesn't matter anyway. Anyone that knows anything knows that it doesn't matter how you spell Gadaffi, Khadaffy, Quadafi.... because it's a phonetic spelling. Quackdaffy never made it clear to Western press how he preferred to spell his name with our alphabets - so like Osama, Usama, Asama, Koran, Qu'ran etc.... there is no 'correct spelling'.

            • 3 votes
            #1.71 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:34 AM EST

            "9-9-9!"

            ROFLMAO. :)

            • 3 votes
            #1.72 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:51 PM EST

            Nein! Nein! Nein!

            • 5 votes
            #1.73 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:30 PM EST

            "Libya? I thought you said Labia" said Mr. Cain explaining why he was lost in thought.

            • 7 votes
            #1.74 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:32 PM EST

            I seem to remember that, during the Reagan and Lockerbie years, the press spelled his name with just a "K". (peaceful dictator, my butt. Were you people born yesterday???) I doubt the people on here trying to create an MSNBC conspiracy even realize that Arabic is an actual language (der..it even has it's own alphabet! Hyuck hyuck...).

            I saw Hermie's excuse of only having 4 hours of sleep. Poor baby. I guess, as president, he will insist that the entire world come to a screeching halt while he gets his nap time. Did this fool actually go into an interview about foreign affairs and NOT expect to be questioned about Libya? Does he realize that Libya is more than just a train stop south of Decatur????

            He has no plan for foriegn affairs other than what his brothers Koch tell him to do when "they's a goin' fishun". Time for us to pack his bags and send him back to Pepper-roni-roni-roni-stan.

            They only thing more pathetic than this dolt are the people on here trying to DEFEND him.

            • 4 votes
            #1.75 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:35 PM EST

            Poor T-Tard Cain struggled and hesitated over Obama's policy in Libya. HERMAN SAID - "WHAT, NOPE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ONE, I GOT TO GO BACK, "Oops" SEE, GOT ALL THIS IN MY HEAD. SPECIFICALLY WHAT ARE YOU ASKING ME ? DID I AGREE OR NOT DISAGREE WITH WITH OBAMA." This is all on video tape. Cain dismissed his stumble, he said - I paused so I could gather my thought, The end. I say Herman is dumb as dirt and unfit to do anything because the only thing that comes out of his mouth is 999 and this is very narrow minded and beyond stupid. This man is not the person we need as President of the United States.

            • 5 votes
            #1.76 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:10 PM EST

            Cain criticized President Obama for ending the space shuttle program when it was "W" that ended it, this was dumb.

            • 5 votes
            #1.77 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:23 PM EST

            Cain appears to believe China has no Nuc-Weapons, how stupid is that ? Cain's campaign is ready to burst into flames.

            • 4 votes
            #1.78 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:29 PM EST

            FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

            Why would going to Henry Kissinger for some schooling in foreign policy now be so impressive? He didn't learn about foreign affairs any sooner because he was not interested enough to follow current events. He is obviously not interested enough to prepare himself to be a good president ..... he just wants to BE president.

            He doesn't want to know what is necessary himself ..... he wants to hire someone else to be smart for him. How can he possibly evaluate the information he receives from his staff when he is so completely lacking in knowledge himself?

              #1.79 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:40 PM EST

              Inappropriate sexual conduct by Herman Cain was confirmed by two lady's and received cash settlements for silence. I think Herman has a split personality. Cain will sing corndog blues to his new Lawyer. Herman is tripping all over his lies.

              • 3 votes
              #1.80 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:41 PM EST

              Give him a break! He is a republican, and if he actually knew anything, it would make him an elitist.

              If he had any understanding of history, or facts, he would know that Republicans said deficits don't matter just a few years ago, when they were running up the biggest deficits in history just before they tanked the economy, again.

              Only a complete break with science and logic can allow for a complete acceptance of right wing ideology and the bible as absolute truth. No logical person would hand the keys to this country to the party that consistently crashed the economy and does not want to be confused with how economies actually work.

              • 5 votes
              #1.81 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:55 PM EST

              I want to thank the censor police for collapsing my post. It enforces the fact that you are so biased in your post on this site. When one responds to another's comments, the original poster is not censored because it supports the biased view point of the site. However, when one has an opposing opinion it is almost certainly going to be collapsed. What you are failing to realize is that, and I thank you for your ignorance, the collapsed comment draws additional attention.

              • 1 vote
              #1.82 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:26 PM EST

              @Thinker

              I agree with you.

              I can't stand when they do that, even when I disagree with the person, I won't flag a comment unless it's blatantly inappropriate or spam. And as you've rightly pointed out, the fact that your comment was collapsed, drew my interest. Let's take a look at what you said.

              And obama has been such a great study in presidential excellence?

              Pretty benign if you ask me, not sure who would take offense to this, but they should grow up a little if they did. Now, let me tell you where I think you're wrong.

              It's not about "presidential excellence".

              Our presidents are human beings. Fallible, just like you and I. The irony is that more people on the Right, fell into the false-narrative that the majority of the people who voted for Obama actually thought he was a "Savior". Much more so than the people who actually did vote for him. I know very few people personally (who support Obama) that weren't quick to criticize him very early on, and disagree with him on many positions ... and on a pretty consistent basis.

              Politics aren't a black-or-white business. I disagree with Obama all the time. I think he's far from perfect, and far from "exceptional". I don't even think that an exceptional president is a sustainable concept within such a broad, culturally diverse organism that makes up these United States.

              So it's not about finding perfection. We never will. But for god sakes man .... Herman Cain? You guys can do better than that.

              • 2 votes
              #1.83 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:45 PM EST

              So it's not about finding perfection. We never will. But for god sakes man .... Herman Cain? You guys can do better than that.

              Amen. And I agree that there was no good reason to collapse The thinker's post.

              • 1 vote
              #1.84 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:06 PM EST

              Thinker: If you think being able to remain composed under pressure isn't a relevant "test" for a leader of anything, especially the free world during difficult times, then I'm not sure I understand your free thinking. As I said, he continues to crack as the campaign pressure mounts. And that pressure has barely started.

              Also, I believe anyone who pays attention to current events could state their opinion of how Obama handled Libya. Personally, I support working with the international community, removing someone who has been a threat to peace, all without losing any american lives and getting embroiled in another long and costly war. Thats just me though.

              Of course, Cain knew he couldn't say that as a member of the GOP, anything less than a robot like "I disagree" wouldn't have worked. Problem being, Cain is being TESTED for his ability to do the job at hand. The question was what would he have done differently, which he failed on.

              • 2 votes
              #1.85 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:40 PM EST

              Hey, don't blame Cain, he's an authentic black.

              Now if the question had been something about an African issue, well he would have it dialed in. uh, uh, uh, oh wait. Damn.

                #1.86 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:30 PM EST

                the thinker-318752

                I want to thank the censor police for collapsing my post. It enforces the fact that you are so biased in your post on this site. When one responds to another's comments, the original poster is not censored because it supports the biased view point of the site. However, when one has an opposing opinion it is almost certainly going to be collapsed. What you are failing to realize is that, and I thank you for your ignorance, the collapsed comment draws additional attention.

                It's a community forum. If enough in the "community" find your posts offensive or ridiculous, they collapse it. I was once given a suspension for saying that the reason that Scalia had the care accident was because Clarence Thomas distracted him with his head in Scalia's lap. Go figure. I'm sure not going to repeat that mistake again.

                I'm sure that my opinions would be unwelcome on some of the Neocon sites.

                • 3 votes
                #1.87 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:52 PM EST

                Don97524: I was not impressed that Cain went to Kissenger. I agree with you. If Cain was serious about being President, he would have been interested in world affairs long before now. To me Cain is a bad joke that I hope just fades away.

                • 1 vote
                #1.88 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:52 AM EST

                Sandtrich #1.87: It is aggravating. I have one collapsed now and then, but I just don't really give a damn. What is irritating though, happens to about 20% of my posts. I post, and can see it for an hour or two, then it leaves. No collapse, no evidence it was ever there, not even a small virtual trace of brown. I think some dumb ass or smart bastard is stealing my comments.

                  #1.89 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:39 PM EST

                  chad - Thank you for your support. I made a comment to some colleagues shortly after obama got elected to the senate that he would made a run for the white house. While I didn't vote for him, I was hoping he would do a good job at performing the various and assorted duties expected of him as prez. Even after several mistakes I was supportive of his actions. I have since had a change of heart. He doesn't seem to have a clue about ANYTHING. As for Cain, I would never vote for him because of my different opinions of his agenda. I agree, the repubs should be able to seat a better candidate than Cain.

                  sandtrich - I agree that this is a community forum. But it seems it doesn't take "enough" people to find a post offensive - it only takes one. The point is that when a comment is collapsed there is no reason given such as vulgar, racist, obvious trolling, etc. I try not to be "offensive" in my posts but I do try to offer differing points of view. My comments are not intended to be "trolling" just to stir up others, but there are times that I post comments that impact both sides of a debate. This is to help me try to better understand the opposing opinions.

                  While I may not always agree with another's opinion, I will accept it as their opinion and not tell they are wrong because of it. My intent in questioning SteveYo in my collapsed post of #1.34 was for him to identify what grand and glorious feats obama has performed that will create a historical positive legacy. Obviously, someone took offense at that because I know it was not my quoting him that was offensive since his original comments slamming repubs was not collapsed.

                  • 1 vote
                  #1.90 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:46 PM EST

                  Mr. Th,

                  What does Obama have to do with Cain or Bush?

                  They collapsed you b/c you were off-topic.

                  Learn how to argue.

                  • 1 vote
                  #1.91 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:40 AM EST
                  Reply

                  Feisty,

                  Mr. Cain will do whatever *twirling* is required,

                  for the Koch Brothers $$$cash in his pot o' gold.

                  What we have learned:

                  Gibberish is a language. Broken biscuits is a language. Insults to our intelligence, no limit.

                  • 55 votes
                  Reply#2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:14 PM EST

                  Mr. Cain will do whatever *twirling* is required,

                  Hiya Backhouse!

                  When the Presidential 'gig' doesn't pan out for Hermie, he can audition for the next Tide-Bowl Man! ;o)

                  • 34 votes
                  #2.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:53 PM EST

                  Herr-mann Kane wouldn't qualify to be one of the scrubbing bubbles.

                  "Scrubbing? As in? So, would I be a scrubber, or bubbly? I don't really like bubbly; it makes my nose tickle. And I absolutely deny that I tickled Bubbles in an inappropriate way, that I remember. What was the question?"

                  • 17 votes
                  #2.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:40 PM EST

                  Being Cain is a central banker of the Fed who forces us into debt, and,,,, a man who forces womens heads into his crotch and don't care if women say no but thinks its his right...His campaign should read...... "Money for nothin and the chicks are free"... Honestly folks, this is the election for the President of the United States..... This guy never intended to do anything but a book deal... Why should he get our time? ... A few bankers throw 2.5 million at him to keep us distracted from real candidates... WE THE PEOPLE deserve to have this man hauled away for trying to disrupt our precious election process. We need time only seeing serious candidates. This is so shameful and disgracing to our nation and we should all object in mass...

                  • 33 votes
                  #2.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:41 PM EST

                  well said. This fool is going nowhere in our faces. What a disgrace.

                  • 9 votes
                  #2.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:16 PM EST

                  Care4mycountry: I assoolutly agree wige ye. A sorrier lot ain't been seen since the poleece lineup of suspects thought to have molested "farmer Johnsons less than 1 year old heifer". Aye gwad hit turned out to be all of 'em too! Jest like here with these 'happy sneaks"! "Sandtrich", my friend, next time don't be so graphic with your description of that "fighting cock" juice. Scuse me "Care" an everybody else.

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.5 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:08 PM EST

                  Three or 4 weeks should be the limit on campaigns. Who needs all the nonsense? Both parties are owned by big money or banks, wall street and big corporations. What they say means little, anyway.

                  • 9 votes
                  #2.6 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:40 PM EST

                  3 or 4 weeks would be enough, but there is no money in that. Both sides are as guilty as the next when it comes to blowing through senseless cash. There is no way any employer would allow an employee to prep for their next day of work two-thirds of the way through the previous day. We hire our politicians to work, 4 years, 6 years, what ever the term, not work part way through then go stumpin'. We have real problems that need to be addressed, drop the party crap and get to work!

                  • 5 votes
                  #2.7 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:37 AM EST

                  Who wants to bet he couldn't point to Libya on a map?

                  • 8 votes
                  #2.8 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:30 AM EST

                  Eureka- I think I finally understand what's driving the Cain scandal- Bill Clinton!

                  Back in 1994, Cain and Clinton had the infamous Hillary-Care debate. Using information and calculations, Cain gave Clinton a very public schellacking on national TV while at the NRA. Within a short time of that is when the allegations began to show up. It's no coincidence that the only such allegations showed up around that time- not before or since.

                  Democratic rivals know that the only thing that trumps minorities is women. I have concluded that Ms. Wasserman et al have pulled out the gender card in retribution for the Clinton embarassment of 1994. Having a woman the likes of Wasserman heading the DNC.

                  The female connection is there. Women don't forget. Women (white women, in particular) tend to be the bulk of people who are most often the offended in sexual harassment cases. It's a female lawyer, Allred involved who also happens to have established a track record of highlighting dubious situations at the strangest time. There's a reason why West, a gentleman with home training and a history of being a gentleman, went after Wasserman the way he did.

                  Ladies and gentlemen, the women of the DNC have been very busy- but it's about to not work out quite the way they planned. They can't do dirty, based on old grudges and not have it come back on them.

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.9 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:17 AM EST

                  Care4mycountry - +1

                  Well said. This moron is no different than the other morons except for Romney, who is keeping his mouth shut most of the time so the others can implode uninterrupted, and when he does speak, has to ask himself first: "What does this person want to hear? That's my position today, then."

                  • 3 votes
                  #2.10 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:00 AM EST

                  oy-vay: nice try at trolling. Did you get beat up by a 9 year old little girl when you were 12 ?

                  Mr. Cain more than amply displayed his misogyny when he referred to former Speaker of the House as "Princess Nancy." This is one piece of work that will go nowhere.

                  What is very scary, as pointed out so well by John Stewart yesterday, is that the far end crazies, Bachman, Santorum, Gingrich and even Ron Paul are the most informed in foreign affairs.

                  Mitt Romney will end up as the nominee, not because he is so very qualified, but simply by default since all of the others are such idiots.

                  • 4 votes
                  #2.11 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:27 AM EST

                  Ok, ok, ok, calm down everybody. Cain is no longer viable. "Cain is not able" is still my favorite, but you can stop wasting effort on him. He's joined Trump, Perry, Bachman, Christie and all the other GOP "Candidate du Jour" wannabes who have come and gone. If they had stuck around just a little bit longer they could have qualified as "a flash in the pan" but their rise and fall was too quick, even beyond "meteoric".

                  So, let's talk about the next big (and equally brief) thing, Cute Newt who slept in his suit. I mean really, he shops at Tiffany, you'd think they man could afford a suit that fits, right?

                  Let's see if Newt can beat Cain's record for self-immolation. Then Santorum and Huntsman can have a turn before they begin the "Draft Palin" movement.

                  All this makes me smile, and feel genuinely sorry for Mitt Romney. When is he going to wake up and tell the GOP to stick it where the sun don't shine?

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 5 votes
                  #2.12 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:19 AM EST

                  First it was Becky Becky, now it is Libby Libby. Here you go Democrats, forget the harrassment deal, that is old tabloid stuff. You want a GOOD REASON not to vote for Cain -- his lack of understanding of foreign policy.

                    #2.13 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:29 PM EST
                    Reply

                    " I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason -- nope, that's a different one. [pause] I gotta go back and see. I got all this stuff twirling around in my head."

                    Whaaaaat???

                    Oh well, I guess at least he's not 'deterred'. Wait- what's this from Feisty? Hold on- could be related :

                    Why is Hermie comparing his head to a toilet?.

                    • 19 votes
                    Reply#3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:19 PM EST

                    Drive-By, if Cain had told the truth in the first place, he wouldn't have to struggle to recall which "lie" he already told. When you're honest and truthful, the only thing "twirling around" in your head is the truth, and that applies to both Cain and Perry.

                    • 30 votes
                    #3.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:35 PM EST

                    This is a very complicated case. There are a lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what have you's, a lot of strands in my head, you know man? A lot of strands in the ol' duder's head.

                    • 14 votes
                    #3.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:43 PM EST

                    Because whenever it starts overflowing and something starts coming out of his head, you can bet it's going to smell like @!$%#, DBO.

                    • 11 votes
                    #3.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:37 PM EST

                    Actually, when they did Hermie's last brain scan, they found out what were twirlin' around in his head were two cross-eyed guppies on crack.

                    Occaisionally the two bump into each other and it allows Hermie to yell "Order up!!"

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.4 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:43 PM EST
                    Reply

                    Not to worry...as president, Cain will delegate all this tricky foreign policy stuff to his advisors so he can continue on his book tour.

                    • 49 votes
                    #4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:21 PM EST
                    Comment author avatarDoc2-4515363Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    At least Cain would be better than the boaz we have now!

                    • 7 votes
                    #4.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:37 PM EST

                    What ahoot those newts were!

                    • 4 votes
                    #4.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:47 PM EST

                    Doc2, you gotta be kidding. Cain (or ANY republican) is the last thing this country needs. Bush set us back 50 years. Any of these goons would set us back 100 years.

                    Sorry but Presidents need to be able to think under pressure. None of this "Swirling around in my head" bulls**t.

                    • 31 votes
                    #4.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:26 PM EST

                    Doc2, What planet are you living on? Get in touch with reality!

                    • 13 votes
                    #4.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:25 PM EST

                    Doc 2: Didn't you take one of them "hypocritical oaths" or sum 'um? Gwad man, errrr?, woman! Go see if you can help that heifer!

                    • 5 votes
                    #4.5 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:26 PM EST
                    Comment author avatarLaker SteveExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                    Just like Obama's campaign tour.....and michelle's next vacation spot on her list.....

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.6 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:31 PM EST

                    Laker Steve- Campaign Tour? I guess our President should not attend G20 Summits - be like George clear the brush on your "fake ranch"

                    Now as far as Michelle Obama goes - were you asleep when Laura Bush did her Safari with her twenty person entourage?

                    Sorry your comments don't meet the smell test.......but your comments do smell of grabbing at straws

                    • 23 votes
                    #4.7 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:43 PM EST

                    I don't know about the women and the sexual harassment.

                    This "incident" may do him in for good.

                    Not well-qualified in the Foreign Policy Arena---he is self-destructing. At least he did not appear "drunk" like Perry in the Debates"--

                    I do like this man--he is affable.

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.8 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:22 AM EST

                    Maui2, Cain is not "affable". He is acting. You can see the hate and rage in that man. It is just under the surface.

                    How can anyone who likes Maui (I assume) like a republican? The two are incompatible. If Cain is elected, you can kiss your money Aloha (the goodbye one).

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.9 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:00 AM EST

                    Maui2, Cain is not "affable"

                    I think she meant "laughable."

                    • 3 votes
                    #4.10 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:19 PM EST

                    Marinmom:

                    Please reread my statement.

                    How do you know what I am thinking re: voting for Cain?--I would not--how do you know I am a Republican, and not an Independent. You do not--

                    As far as angry and rage--how do you know. Have you personally met Cain?---you are describing something else. I wonder about "that" re: the content surrounding anger and rage". The unspoken word.

                    Don't accuse, without knowing the facts. You sure jumped the gun on my comment.

                    Thank you for the insult, as to who "could like" Maui2. Personal attack. I have reported you.

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.11 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:43 PM EST

                    RustyBoy:

                    Yup, affable-- aren't they all--all Politicians--who want to be the POTUS--and all running for office.

                    Now, laugh. Because you are soooooooo funny, and intellectually witty. Really?

                    • 2 votes
                    #4.12 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:48 PM EST

                    Maui2, all I did was ask you how you could like Maui AND Cain (most people who like Maui are very cool Democrats) and you reported it as a personal attack? Do you always censor people for giving opposing opinions and asking non-threatening questions using perfectly decent language? Oh but censorship is a conservative value, isn't it?

                    What about the others that jumped on you as well?

                    You "independents(republicans) can dish it out but you sure can't take it. Herman Cain has similar attributes. No wonder you think he's "affable". And, if after four women have lost their jobs and risked their reputations to come forward with this information, you still think Cain is "affable" I think you are in dire need of further education. You may want to start with some psychology books about Narcissistic Personality Disorder and read all about the "affable" Herman Cain.

                      #4.13 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:37 PM EST

                      Marinmom:

                      No you are becoming "Paranoid'. Yes, you personally attacked me. Please stop the "Spins" on my comments--It is so clear--Personal Attacks are not Censorship; but decency and respect to another human being and their Freedom of Speech.

                      It has nothing to do with Opinions.

                      Marinmom: Cain has not been proven guilty in a Court of Law---what you are talking about is conjecture and speculation.

                      Another Compassionate one---you sound desperate.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.14 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:36 PM EST

                      Maui2, I bet you think Cain's accusers are desperate and paranoid also.

                      Four women? Hearing him call Nancy Pelosi "Princess" or his fellow republican Jesus freak running mate Michelle Bachmann " tooti fruity" (even though she is) and the big smokescreen he blew after he was accused were enough for me. The man does not respect women AT ALL!! Why do you think he's affable? He isn't. He's acting and poorly I might add. He is also dumb as a doorknob, which is the REAL issue.

                      I didn't like Herman Cain BEFORE I heard the accusations. I guess I am a much better judge of character than you are. Must be because I can read.

                      People like you and your buddy Cain are what is wrong with this country. That is my expert opinion and I AM ENTITLED TO IT!

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.15 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:12 PM EST

                      Alright Marinmom:

                      It's time to cease and desist.

                      Your ranting is nonsense--

                      Who would ever believe that Marinmon has integrity. I've always had the feeling there is something else you cannot print here--the "R" word. It sure is identifiable in between the lines..

                      Who cares what you think. The Country will go on without ranting opinions of nonsense..

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.16 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:00 AM EST

                      Hmmm.

                      Someone who thinks Herman Cain is "affable".

                      Chooses to not believe these four women because Cain was not convicted in a court of law

                      Censors people who try to speak their mind and thinks they have the authority to tell them to "cease and desist".

                      I can certainly see why you think Herman Cain is affable. You are two of a kind.

                      I've already got a psychological profile on you, Maui2. The only thing that doesn't fit is the Maui part.

                        #4.17 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:35 PM EST

                        Marinmom:

                        Stuff it--you are needy.

                        Cease and Desist---all the writing from Marinmom is Obsessive Compulsive.

                        Done.

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.18 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:06 PM EST

                        Make me.

                        Obsessive compulsive? No.

                        Hate republicans and those who think they are "affable"? Yes.

                        I will not cease and desist. You will not stop me from exorcising my rights to free speech.

                        I'm not falling for your Herman Cain Jedi mind tricks.

                        Go put a burka on your wife if you have one dumb enough to be with you.

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.19 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:50 PM EST

                        Marinmom:

                        I find you to be very funny---

                        So this is all about hating Republicans.

                        I hate to tell you this, but I am a Registered Democrat! Do you really want to EXORCISE your rights. Are you Sure? EXORCISE?

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.20 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:27 PM EST

                        Doesn't matter what party you belong to. If you think Herman Cain is affable, you have something twirling around in YOUR head. If you think you have the right to censor others and tell them to "cease and desist" you have some delusions regarding power and control. You need a shrink.

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.21 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:08 AM EST

                        Marinmom":

                        Today is Thursday--you started your rant on Monday!

                        Please take care of yourself. Get out into the fresh air, commit yourself to do some charitable work for others.

                        These e-mails from you, are screwy---You are an absolute "Bully". NCOH will most likely delete your nutty thoughts.

                        The deep down hatred (especially Cain and others is very obvious--I feel sorry for you. It is pathetic.

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.22 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:21 PM EST
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                        Herman Cain. I think publicly his supporters will back him. But privately I believe they know Cain is done. I think he got more attention than he ever thought he would get. But that's because Perry had a senior moment. And now it's Newt's turn. Some of the comments on Huffington Post are so damn funny now that Newt is "rising" in the polls.

                        One person said - Newt is at his most compassionate in a hospital. LoL. Another said of his staff - but wasn't there a Newtiny?

                        I'm afraid our professional serious members of the media are once again going to have to deal with the women issue with now Newt. Women will be coming out of the woodwork in the next few days. And the media will have to report these stories. Sometimes one has to wonder why one got into the journalism business with these characters running in the GOP.

                        But once Newt's women surface, and they will, that will be the end of Cain AND Newt.

                        Huntsman, be patient. Your turn will come. Maybe.

                        Perry, be patient. People don't like your stances on a lot of things. You have to remember, most other states don't think like hard right Texans. But people like you personally. Really they do. Cain, eh. Newt, definitely not. Romney, obviously not.

                        Hang in there.

                        Newt has what's coming. He deserves it. It's called "vetting". And the history on Newt isn't as magical as he likes to portray himself. No one is buying it. Besides he and his wife look too much alike. It's creepy.

                        It's like we're all ticket holders to a carnival. Voters and media.

                        • 43 votes
                        Reply#5 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:22 PM EST

                        thanks for your post . it was funny!

                        • 5 votes
                        #5.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST

                        Good post Pat, however the One never got vented. Clinton barely did either. If you look at their early years you can only make a case that they were developed by the Agency. Just as Bush I and II were. Really look at the policies, the REAL ones were only enhanced by President Obama. Ya gotta love President Obama's very first action as president. Ya gotta love that FIRST of many Executive Orders. But as for rachetin up the Patriot Act, Of course some people look forward to the "invasive " pat down when gittin on a plane. LOL!

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:06 PM EST

                        Mac101: Don't know which one you're claiming didn't get vented. Additionally, you mentioned Clinton barely did. You righties impeached him for that. From the way I understand it, Monica vented him quite well and often. That Bill Clinton sure knows his way around women. I like the hell outta him. Sides, there are "cat houses" that will gladly vent any of your guys if they will pay up afterwards.

                        • 3 votes
                        #5.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:34 PM EST

                        Mac F, you vent people before they are elected. I'm just goin to list a few things:

                        1. How did he git in charge of the AR DeLamoy (sp) organization?

                        2. How did he get to be Sen Fulbright's intern, the biggest commie in the Senate.

                        3. How good were his grades, were they ever public? How good did he do to get a Rhodes scholarship (big NWO organization) How was his education funded prior to the scholarship.

                        4. How did he get the scholarship back after he dropped out of Oxford to join Soviet financed anti-war organizations?

                        5. How did he go to MOSCOW on an anti-war protest in the height of the anti-war protest in 1969 travelin through Chekoslavika (sp) and East Germany. Sounds like Agency field trip to me.

                        6. What's the chance he roomed with the future editor of Time magazine who was selected by Kreuchev (sp) to translate his autobiography. Operation Mockinbird?

                        6. Who ripped out the passport info on hs State Dept files?

                        7. I will not even get into ALL the alleged deals with the Bush's when he was gov of AR and the drugs smugglin and other MESA airport connections.

                        8. How many people were suicided or died in airplane accidents that he was associated with.

                        There's a lot more. This is of the top of my head. Gettin late and it's bedtime for Bonzo. So President Clinton was either Agency developed or a Commie. He did good for the son of a hairdresser, so I'm inclined to say he was Agency developed. President Obama's sealed past follows the same pattern.

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:16 PM EST

                        Mac-101: Whoa hell Mac, plumb sorry about my dumbassedness. I completly misunderstood. Now that you've splained it to me I feel much better. Think I'll have another drink then go on to bed. Regards to ya.

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.5 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:37 PM EST

                        Mac - How did Newt get an exemption for Viet Nam? Perpetual student - which his older first wife paid for - then dumped for #2 who got dumped for three - because she was a blond and would make a great first lady

                        Mitch McConnell - got a deferment because "ole doc" said he an eye desease and would be totally blind by thirty - hey Mitch where is your seeing eye dog

                        Willard Romney - eligible for draft - was sent by the Mormon church as a missionary to France - France? Last I looked France - mostly when he went there was a Catholic country - oh yes convert those non-believers in Paris and the South of France, but don't come back until your safe

                        Michelle Bachman - makes Reagan Welfare Queen look like a pauper - garnered in over $720,000 from the State by housing foster children, collected over $250,000 from farm subsidies and her husband's "Pray away the Gay" got $180,000 for retraining professionals, ps most of his staff are previous ministers

                        And as far as Clinton - he was a Rhodes Scholar - I doubt they go to the nearest schoolground and pick up contenders for this auspicious honor

                        And my President is a Constitutional Scholar - got through school on student loans - and yesterday - thank god - he said Water Boarding is Torture

                        Now all my Progressive Friends - let's get this guy re-elected - he would have nothing to lose to go after our war criminals - Cheney and Bush

                        • 17 votes
                        #5.6 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:03 AM EST

                        Barbara, did I support any of the above clowns? You, my dear lady are fallin for the good cop bad cop game. They're ALL owned by da BANKSTERS.

                        As for PResident Obama, you REALLY think he is doing a GOOD JOB. To think so ya got to be a TOTAL political hack or a moron. Peace Out.

                        LPS: Love dem drones wackin American Citizens in non combat operations without so much as a judicuary review. We got what 3 citizens last month? However I agree they should be wacked, but how about a review, not presidential fiat. No sweat though. It'll make gittin those nasty Tea Party Terrorist easier. LOL!

                          #5.7 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:31 AM EST

                          Newt's an idiot, just like the rest. Both him and Cain have anger and keeping it in their pants management problems.

                          • 7 votes
                          #5.8 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:04 AM EST

                          Barbara, I should have asked you about his first executive order he issued. That isn't very transparent in sealin ALL previous and his own personal records. As for Constitutional LAUYER, he seems to be doing the opposite in almost everything. Drone strikes, TSA groping, Do you like to fly now? LOL!

                          PS: Please ponder what I wrote above in #5.4. You're being played like we ALL are by both sides. Two sides, same coin. LOL!

                            #5.9 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:14 PM EST

                            Mac, look at how many votes Barbara got as opposed to you. You didn't get any. Do you think you may be on the wrong track here?

                            Starderup, I agree wholeheartedly. Cain and Newt do have anger issues. Having either of them as President would be absolutely terrifying. Especially Cain. He is scary. I was trying to convey that to another poster and he just didn't get it either. I think all the sexual harrassers in the world don't think they are doing anything wrong. Just like Jerry Sandusky.

                            • 1 vote
                            #5.10 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:44 PM EST

                            MarinMom, My purpose is not to get votes. It's to hopefully git a person or too to look up some of these points I make and realize they have a strong possibility of being true. Then perhaps the process of awakin the sheeple will occur. But, of course, that kool aid is good, and to not play the Donkey/Elephant game is dicernin. LOL!

                              #5.11 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:56 PM EST

                              Mac, don't YOU think you might be missing something that the rest of us all got? Maybe you are not seeing it because you don't want to.

                              Or do you commiserate with Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich because you have some of his same personality traits?

                              • 1 vote
                              #5.12 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:57 AM EST

                              Sorry, had trouble re-registering. Figured I got banned from another lib site, Evidently not.

                              I come on these Lib sites to point out a couple hard facts and hope to awakin a sheeple or two.

                              I also get points to research. Today I was reminded that Bush I had his own "Young boy scandal" and John Hinkley Sr and a couple of his sons were GOOD friends of the Bush family.

                              If you beleive JFK ws killed by a single bullet by a lone gunman , don't worry, you can make it ALL make sence. If not think hard about why neither party has revealed the truth.

                              Keep rooting for your team and enjoy the New World Order that they BOTH have planned for us. Peace Out.

                                #5.13 - Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:20 PM EST
                                Reply

                                Herman Cain flames out!

                                • 16 votes
                                Reply#6 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:22 PM EST

                                Seriously,I hope the Koch brothers kept their receipt.....what a BAD purchase this was.....

                                • 36 votes
                                #6.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:27 PM EST

                                He's not meant to win, he's meant to distract. His 'brothers from another mother' know fully well he's not fit to be POTUS.

                                • 34 votes
                                #6.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:57 PM EST

                                it's "Trading Places" in real life.

                                • 11 votes
                                #6.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:44 PM EST

                                9.99 w/cheese.... but no meat.....story of his short career as another rightie-lightie

                                • 7 votes
                                #6.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:51 PM EST
                                Reply

                                That's because all these Teapublicans candidates are total fools who know very little actually about running a country, let alone their own pathetic lives.

                                • 37 votes
                                Reply#7 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:25 PM EST

                                Sad but true.

                                • 2 votes
                                #7.1 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:05 AM EST
                                Reply

                                See actually Cain is hoping to get a Tv Series,and tell people he can see Russia from his back yard.Plus he's hoping his kids will get a gig doing the college lecturing tour" On how to prevent teenage pregnancy".

                                • 10 votes
                                Reply#8 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:38 PM EST

                                Maybe he's hoping for a show on Fox.

                                • 16 votes
                                #8.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:37 PM EST

                                What's really sad about the Republican candidates is they have no platform and they have no earthly idea of how to solve this Country's issues. I would love to hear some intelligent responses from these people; nothin yet. One of the responders commented in an earlier post "the Republican Party had pride at one time." With what the American people have to choose from this time around, I am beginning to think they don't even have that; not if they can't answer questions in which they should be prepared to debate about. God help us.

                                • 16 votes
                                #8.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:46 PM EST

                                American Girl,

                                I honestly believe he will end up on FOX if he manages to stay in the race much longer. Perhaps he will be their commentator on foreign policy. I am dead serious. Or he might co-author one of O'Reilley's "history books."

                                • 11 votes
                                #8.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:30 PM EST
                                Reply

                                God and to think this man was on the federal reserve board, no wonder we are in such terrible trouble eonomially. What an idiot.

                                • 31 votes
                                Reply#9 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:39 PM EST

                                That's exactly why he thinks he can be President. On the Board all he had to do what whatever his Brothas told him to.....same plan for the Presidency...problem solved! Smoke if you got 'em.

                                • 12 votes
                                #9.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:01 PM EST

                                Unfortunately, being on da board ya just do what the Global BANKSTERS tell ya what to do. Ya only got to know the 13 families that own da FED. LOL!

                                  #9.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:10 PM EST

                                  um guys...he was an ADVISOR on a Fed board for the state...not a mucky muck....obviously, it didn't require a great deal of smarts...

                                    #9.3 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:41 AM EST

                                    AP, the best I understand from his book and from participants accounts he was the Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank, which a few people said he ran a good meeting. Being a main opponet of the BANKSTERS and da FED, this got me a worried.

                                      #9.4 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:32 PM EST
                                      Reply

                                      For all the grandstanding and big talk about getting Obama out of office, they sure did a bang up job of rounding up a bunch of people who mostly have no chance of winning a general election. Something like 70% of the Republican party identify themselves as Christian, yet their likely candidate is a Mormon who is attached to Obamacare and has sound bites flip flopping on every issue at hand. Good luck!

                                      Republican voters, at least those polled, seem to have ZERO judgment over who an electable candidate is.

                                      • 35 votes
                                      Reply#10 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:40 PM EST
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                                      Let's be honest Herman Cain is the tbaggers and others version of President Obama. They are trying to convince people that they are not against the President because he is black by saying, see we support Herman Cain. Knowing damn well this idiot has no chance. He couldn't debate Michelle Bachman in a one on one. I just wish the press would quit trying to make us think he's a worthy candidate. Please!

                                      • 29 votes
                                      Reply#11 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:42 PM EST

                                      Rburn, I think you hit the nail on the head. Republicans always seem to have a black person somewhere in their wings to pretend as though they are not racists. The thing is, they only have 1 at time. First it was Michael Steele, now Herman Cain. I do not believe Republicans are sincere at all about running any black person for POTUS because they all want that position for themselves, and I truly believe it is the GOP who is sabbotaging Cain's campaign.

                                      • 24 votes
                                      #11.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST

                                      I don't think the GOP has the capacity to think things out that in depth. This is a case of an unlikely someone getting in the spotlight, regardless of if he could even handle the primaries - much less ever be elected.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #11.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:23 PM EST

                                      Rburn well I think the press gives him the attention because he is such a buffoon that you have to laugh. You know, he is comic relief!

                                      And be honest...Godfathers Pizza sucks, thats why they collapsed.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #11.3 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:53 AM EST
                                      Reply

                                      and he is doing well in the polls? come on america, stop this and lets get someone with presidential qualities. we need to move forward, not go back. perry, palin, bachmann, cain, obama? is this the best we can do? we need to climb out of this pit we are in, not dig deeper

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#12 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:42 PM EST

                                      Obama's fine with me. Repub congress can go straight to hades.

                                      • 24 votes
                                      #12.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:34 PM EST

                                      I'm with you marinmom. I voted for Obama/Biden in 2008 and will do it again. We just need to get a sensible dem House & Senate and we can finally get moving in the right direction. There are some dems who need to be voted out - they're just as bad as the reps with their just say no attitude. If it isn't far left enough they disagree and stop progress.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #12.2 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:03 AM EST
                                      Reply

                                      Geez, now I know why this guy went into the pizza making business. He stabbed himself too many times trying to learn how to eat with a fork.

                                      • 22 votes
                                      Reply#13 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:46 PM EST

                                      Wow! I think I'll take the time now and repost my assessment of Saturday's debate and a Herman Cain Presidency. . .

                                      White House phone rings at 3 a.m. President Cain, wearing sleeping cap, wakes up and answers.

                                      On the other line is Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: "Mr. President, Iran is launching nuclear weapon at us. What should we do?"

                                      Cain: " I need to discuss this with my advisors." Yells at lumps in bed. "Get up you guys Iran is attacking

                                      us what should I do?"

                                      Romney wearing cap wakes up: "We need to use force against Iran prepare our troops. Where is my comb?"

                                      Paul w/cap wakes up: "We need to assemble congress to vote on military action!"

                                      Cheney w/cap wakes up next to Paul but struggles. Paul reaches over and inserts battery into Cheney's heart.

                                      Cheney: "Waterboard Ahmadinejad!"

                                      Huntsman w/cap wakes up: "Where's my toothbrush?"

                                      Newt w/cap wakes up: "Get a copy of my book for great advice on this situation."

                                      Michelle wakes up next to Cain: "Markus is that you with your hands up my jammies?"

                                      Cain quickly moves hand and pushes lump on other side: Hey Rick wake up I need your advice!

                                      Perry doesn't budge. Snores loudly.

                                      ONE HOUR LATER:

                                      Hillary Clinton;" I need your answer now Mr. President!"

                                      Cain: "Hold your horses Princess! I need more time. Hey guys what should we do?"

                                      Paul: "Congress needs to vote first!"

                                      Cheney: "Waterboard Ahmadinejad!"

                                      Romney to Huntsman: "You got your toothpaste on my comb!"

                                      Huntsman to Romney: "You got hair all over my toothpaste!"

                                      LIGHTS OUT! BIG EXPLOSION!

                                      Perry wakes up from under ash covered bedspread. Stretches, yawns and looks around: OOPS!"

                                      • 46 votes
                                      Reply#14 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:46 PM EST

                                      Gold, Ana...pure gold! Thanks for the laugh...

                                      • 11 votes
                                      #14.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:08 PM EST

                                      thanks Sean,

                                      I'm not a professional writer by any stretch of the imagination. I am creative though. Chuck Todd tweeted a comment during the debate in response to Herman Cain's "I'll ask my advisors" comment on the 3 am phone call question. Chuck tweeted "are his advisors sleeping in the white house?" and this vision quickly formed in my mind.

                                      Newt is my next victim. Stay tuned!

                                      • 8 votes
                                      #14.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:29 PM EST

                                      Anna,i am laughing so hard at this hour,i am afraid to awake my wife...i applaud you for this commentary.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #14.4 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:14 AM EST

                                      SNL will accept skits that you write - they DO actually go over them as well. They have used a few of my brother's - although chopped and cut to be barely recognizable... the 'theme' or main punchline would be his. You don't really get credit or money or anything. But they do use your ideas sometimes.

                                      As for actually getting them to employ you as a writer - no idea where to start with that. I'm assuming a healthy dose of work already in the comedy circuit to gain that sort of position.

                                        #14.5 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:56 AM EST

                                        You have reaffirmed my faith in humanity - one can in fact laugh while thinking about a hypothetical republican administration!

                                          #14.6 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:09 PM EST
                                          Reply

                                          How "In God we trust" can this person be running for President of the US? Libya is a CURRENT EVENT for goodness sakes and he doesn't know what he thinks about it?

                                          Egads, that means he doesn't think about it!

                                          I am shocked and appalled at this kind of stupidity, is he serious?

                                          • 35 votes
                                          Reply#15 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST

                                          I am shocked and appalled at this kind of stupidity, is he serious?

                                          I'm MORE shocked and appalled that nearly half of our population, and media, puts him up on the national stage and claim that he should be the next president.

                                          • 26 votes
                                          #15.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST

                                          Dude. You should be shocked that you've given this guy your attention.

                                          Go look up Ron Paul and see if you can see a hint of intelligence somewhere in the Republican party.

                                          • 6 votes
                                          #15.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:03 PM EST

                                          SteveYo: Ron Paul is barely a Republican, if he is intelligent, he needs to run as 3rd party.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          #15.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST

                                          Ron Paul sounds Ok for the first two sentences or so and he has my attention----but then by sentence number three he is saying something COMPLETELY OFF THE WALL and I am shaking my head wondering now how on earth did he get there?

                                          ron Palu could not govern for five minutes if he did somehow get elected. everyone would oppose him. too radical for washington.

                                          • 9 votes
                                          #15.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:29 PM EST

                                          How "In God we trust" can this person be running for President of the US? Libya is a CURRENT EVENT for goodness sakes and he doesn't know what he thinks about it?

                                          Yes but he is the same guy that "thinks China is seeking nuclear weapons"! Really Herrrrrrman? Have you read a newspaper in the last...oh...40 years? ROFLMAO

                                          • 7 votes
                                          #15.5 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:32 PM EST

                                          Wait until Katie Couric gets ahold of him and asks him what newspapers he reads . . .

                                          • 8 votes
                                          #15.6 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:43 PM EST
                                          Reply

                                          Obama did an excellent job. He got NATO to carry the majority of the load....We didn't loose a single soldier.Now it remains for the Libyans to stabilize their country....

                                          • 35 votes
                                          Reply#16 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:47 PM EST

                                          Too bad that didn't happen in Iraq!

                                          • 14 votes
                                          #16.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:03 PM EST

                                          TO: Bill CT who wrote:

                                          "Obama did an excellent job. He got NATO to carry the majority of the load....We didn't loose a single soldier.Now it remains for the Libyans to stabilize their country..."

                                          Excellent response Bill.

                                          Now somebody ought to pass your script over to Herman Cain and ask Herman if he can read.

                                          • 12 votes
                                          #16.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:12 PM EST

                                          Can't wait till we git Sharia Law here in da US of A. LOL!

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #16.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:14 PM EST

                                          TO: SteveYo who wrote:

                                          "Too bad that didn't happen in Iraq!"

                                          It wasn't meant to happen in Iraq. What the Bush Administration needed was complete khaos while they tapped those oil wells and gathered up those "spoils of war".

                                          I wonder where those "spoils" went to? Bush's safe?

                                          • 9 votes
                                          #16.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:15 PM EST

                                          Who needs oil when there's Halliburton?

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #16.5 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:39 PM EST

                                          Bill-ct - You fail to report Ob*ma went to war without congress approval. If the MSN*C reported that fact we would have Biden as president. After 3months president needs congress approval. It becomes a violation of the constitution. Wich this administration has had total disregard for, from forcing healthcare to starting wars.

                                            #16.6 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:38 AM EST

                                            Freethink: You rewriting history again?? Bush did NOT get Congressional approval for invading Iraq...Congress told him to go to the UN...he only went to Congress AFTER the invasion asking for continued support. Who was going to pull funds then?? THat's the administration that had total disregard for Congress, from dismantling regulations by fiat to starting TWO wars. (some of us did not JUST wake up when Obama took office).

                                            "forcing healthcare"?? Let's see what the US Supreme Court says about Congress' authority to enforce the commerce clause on commerce that impacts all 50 states...

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #16.7 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:47 AM EST
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                                            Here's another empty suit. Almost IMMEDIATELY Cain launches into an attack and he doesn't even know why he's attacking President Obama.

                                            The truth is he's against the man, not the policy. Typical extremist response. Ad hominem attacks because in that huge melon of his there is no organized thought --- only reactions.

                                            • 26 votes
                                            Reply#17 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:48 PM EST

                                            The rest of the world must be LOL at us. And Ann Coulter said " Our blacks are better than their blacks", yeah Ann first of all we don't own blacks and secondly if Cain is the best black candidate you can come up with then the GOP is in worse shape then we thought.

                                            • 39 votes
                                            Reply#18 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:49 PM EST

                                            Allens no one running has those qualities. NO ONE. So lets pick one that is
                                            NOT doing what every other politician has done before, which is the same old sheot. What did that get us?

                                            I'm for Cain. Lets go with something new that is not Politics as usual.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            Reply#19 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:51 PM EST

                                            voting for dumb is just dumb. cain is just dumb

                                            • 27 votes
                                            #19.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:57 PM EST

                                            Mike...both you and Cain are fookin' idiots.......which is fine for you, not so fine for a Presidential candidate...........Amurrrkka.......getting dumber by the minute.

                                            • 22 votes
                                            #19.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST

                                            You just keep thinking that way, Mike, and do everything you can to convert the rest of the Republican voters to your opinion. I can't think of a better way to guarantee a second term for our President then to run Cain against him.

                                            • 16 votes
                                            #19.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:21 PM EST

                                            I fell bad for you..Nobody involved in the occult ever knows it...Fox nation is a cult.....You people follow them more than a god..

                                            • 6 votes
                                            #19.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:32 PM EST

                                            I cannot believe the Republican party has gotten to this point. They have not one candidate that is presidential material. Very embarrassing situation. Do they really think we are as stupid as their crowd of "the usual suspects"? I hope we aren't. Makes living overseas more and more desirable. Shame.

                                            • 6 votes
                                            #19.6 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:25 PM EST

                                            I'm for Cain. Lets go with something new that is not Politics as usual.

                                            Or sanity as usual...or intelligence as usual...or honesty as usual. Hell, let's just name the Koch Brothers dictators for life and have done with it.

                                            • 9 votes
                                            #19.7 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:38 PM EST

                                            Mike, you are clueless. We don't need someone "different". We need someone smart and we need to get rid of the TP congress. The TP/repubs have pushed us to the brink of disaster and the candidates would be happy to push us all off the cliff. You won't be protected if you vote for them. You don't belong to The Club.

                                            • 10 votes
                                            #19.8 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:41 PM EST

                                            Are you out of your f-ing mind??? Herman Cain was supported as a candidate so that Republicans can say "See we aren't prejudiced, we are supporting a black candidate". But let's be honest, Republicans will never elect a black man to be president. How many votes do you think Cain will get below the Mason-Dixon line?

                                            • 9 votes
                                            #19.9 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:45 PM EST

                                            Mike: NOT politics as usual?? Could your bar be any lower for electing a President of the United States? One who hadn't obviously even read a newspaper to know when and where and by whom Khaddafy was taken out? Thanks, but ignorance of everything at the expense of "not politics as usual" is thankfully not going to win him anything except an extended book tour by the wing nut parade who follow Cain. (you probably think he made a good pizza too....)

                                              #19.10 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:50 AM EST
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                                              Cain doesn't know where he stands on the Libya issue yet, he hasn't hired his cabinet members that will tell him what to think. Therein lies the catch 22 .. he can't answer foreign policy questions until he is elected president and appoints his cabinet, and he can't get elected without answering foreign policy questions. What is the man do to?

                                              • 15 votes
                                              Reply#20 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:54 PM EST

                                              I, for one, would suggest he make pizza.

                                              • 18 votes
                                              #20.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST

                                              My recommendation: go home, put your apron back on and leave politics to those who understand it.

                                              • 18 votes
                                              #20.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:25 PM EST

                                              RedDev, Obama could have answered that question very well even before he was elected. He pays attention. That is what someone who aspires to be president should be doing. Got it yet?

                                              • 10 votes
                                              #20.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:46 PM EST

                                              When the going gets tough, the tough . . . .make pizza!

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #20.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:56 PM EST

                                              Acoustictherapy; I don't know if Cain wants to go home anytime soon. I think his wife is going to question him about Libia and some of his foreign policies too. Then when she gets her hands around his neck and half of his pocket book, he'll be in divorce court before you know it. At least he still has his book and pizza. Acoustictherapy, by the way, great post.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #20.5 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:05 AM EST

                                              You got it backward!!

                                                #20.6 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:18 AM EST

                                                Acoustictherapy: I think you're lost. This is not the board for those needing therapy to overcome their mysogeny. My recommendation?: leave the deeper thinking for those who can handle the 21st century.

                                                  #20.7 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:56 AM EST
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                                                  What a joke.    We (meaning the Republicans not me), put up a bunch of half axx jokers on the stage, determine that ONE of them must take down Obama, and then wonder why they look like jokers?

                                                  What in God's name has Cain EVER done that would qualify him to be an expert on Libya, or anything besides pizza for that matter?    

                                                  Or, Bachman, let's put her on the national stage as an "expert" and then wonder why the Republican party is an absolute joke.

                                                  It's a very sad commentary on nearly half of our population....

                                                  • 21 votes
                                                  Reply#21 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST

                                                  The "party of ideas" has become the party off "ignorance is bliss and we like it that way".

                                                  • 17 votes
                                                  #21.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:58 PM EST

                                                  Maybe Cain put out a "Mediterranean" pizza, so he thinks he's a middle east specialist.

                                                  • 16 votes
                                                  #21.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:05 PM EST

                                                  One need only look at the video of the Kennedy-Nixon debates to understand how far both parties have fallen (with the Republicans arguably falling further) over the last half-century. Gone is all civility, and with it anything resembling true patriotism, that is, putting country before position (as opposed to jingoism, and the sort of vapid flag-waving idiocy practiced on the far Right).

                                                  There was a time when politicians acted out of love of country, and not blind hatred of anyone with whom they disagreed; when they promised cooperation and unity instead of polarizing the nation.

                                                  If our founding fathers are looking down on us from on high, they must surely be shaking their heads in despair at what we have made of our "grand experiment."

                                                  • 19 votes
                                                  #21.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:30 PM EST

                                                  Acoustic: I totally agree with you. However, the root of the problem is not the politicians. There would be no supplier of this b.s., if there were no demand.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #21.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:09 PM EST

                                                  Brilliantly expressed, Acoustic. Encapsulated the reality of our circumstances perfectly.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #21.5 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:19 AM EST

                                                  I would hope you expect cain to be an expert on capitalist affairs vrs foriegn affairs something we need more than a leader worried about someone else. if we cannot stay the top capitol country in the world we have no power in foriegn affairs.

                                                    #21.6 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:56 AM EST

                                                    freethnker: Could your bar be any lower?? It says it all that you think the leader of the free world really doesn't need to know anything about the world...just enough to hire or fire people to keep a company making in the pizza business...(by the way, making pretty awful pizzas...)

                                                      #21.7 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:21 PM EST
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                                                      The "true believers" will frame this as another "gotcha" question asked by a liberal press. Republicans and T puppets don't seem all that moved by someone's mastery or ignorance,on issues, of substance.

                                                      • 22 votes
                                                      Reply#22 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST

                                                      Perry said as much after his colossal gaffe the other night. To conservatives, it's not about whether a candidate truly has the stuff of a President, but only about who can most skillfully toe the party line and mouth the so-called "conservative values" most convincingly. Conservatism has become the triumph of sound over substance.

                                                      • 12 votes
                                                      #22.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:34 PM EST

                                                      Perry wants to do away with the Dept of Education. Bachmann wants to fire teachers. The Tea Party nuts want to home school their children. What's the result of all this: Complete incompetence!!

                                                      The Tea Party's chosen few are prime example of the right wing ideology. No clue on world events; no clue on US History; no clue on US and world geography; no clue on economics; no clue on job creation; no clue on foreign relations, no clue, no clue, no clue....

                                                      AHH! BUT! These right wing nut cases have all the clues when it comes to being righteous, and using their Christian beliefs for reducing Government by passing laws outlawing abortions; passing laws against same sex marriges, passing laws on immigration, passing laws against unionization, passing laws on forced immunization, passing laws on photo IDs, passing laws after laws after laws.... All with the objective of reducing government....RIGHT.....

                                                      So why is anyone surprised about Cain not knowing anything. If elected POTUS, he'll most likely sign a law outlawing knowledge.

                                                      So, I sure hope he is the Republican nominee...PLEEEAAASSSSE.

                                                      • 11 votes
                                                      #22.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:32 PM EST

                                                      confused; I can remember the repubs saying less government since Reagan was in office. They keep saying that and we end up with more of it. Same with Gw, less government was one of his lines too and then he gets the patriot act inacted. Maybe it is less government in a visual sense of less government but now they are in our phones, in our automobiles, in our living rooms but we can't see them, but they can hear us. Isn't this why and how our country was started? Less government, now thats something I would like to hear an explaination to from our repub candidates.

                                                      Confused real good post, I like the humor, thanks real nice.

                                                      • 4 votes
                                                      #22.4 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:04 AM EST

                                                      No clue..

                                                      Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:

                                                      • creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                                                      • satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                                                      • augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                                                      • rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.

                                                      Read more: Veteran psychiatrist calls liberals mentally ill #ixzz1dqTlYz7W

                                                      seems pretty accurate

                                                        #22.5 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:03 AM EST
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                                                        Why are these morons allowed to skate when it is soooooo totally obvious that they are intellectual LIGHT WEIGHTS with little depth in ANY of the fields that they would be expected to FUNCTION under if they were the Commander in Chief ????

                                                        And EXACTLY WHY is their PARTY BASE so supportive of these "candidates" WHEN THEY ARE SO OBVIOUSLY UNQUALIFIED and brainless ?????

                                                        Huntsman and Romney are the MOST QUALIFIED AND INTELLIGENT, yet their base seem to despise them....what is wrong with this picture ??? And what is wrong with their political base ?????

                                                        • 19 votes
                                                        Reply#23 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:55 PM EST

                                                        Could you imagine being those reporters in the room with Herr-mann Kane? They had to be greatly tempering their questions after that performance, which is what this all is: performance art.

                                                        • 5 votes
                                                        #23.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:52 PM EST

                                                        The whole batch of intellectual lightweights started with Ronnie and got worse ina hurry...and i never thought any more oafes existed emptier than the great decider...hisself...like my wife says ..,more often wrong than I'm right.Remeber 'ol Sarah has 6 months experience as a governor in case your tea turns to pee....theres a real winner for 'ya...you betcha

                                                        • 5 votes
                                                        #23.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:14 PM EST
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                                                        It looks as though the Sunday bulletins are being published by the National Inquirer. Christianity used to have some moral decency, but that was when it was supporting the Civil Rights Movement. I pity Christians who don't have a moral clue other than their hatred for a black President. Every biblical prophet had one clear message - justice for the poor, not to mention Jesus's opinion of seeking wealth and power.

                                                        • 14 votes
                                                        Reply#24 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:56 PM EST

                                                        All they seem to hear is "but they're a good Christian".... therefore, nothing else matters. He loves Jesus so s/he MUST be the right person to lead our country.....

                                                        and thus, we have present day reality.

                                                        You think THEY don't know this gullibility of so many voters? They know damn well, that if they throw a few "sweet baby Jesus" quotes out there, then they are free to do whatever they want to protect their corporate interests.

                                                        Pull your heads out of your rear end folks.

                                                        • 13 votes
                                                        #24.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:04 PM EST

                                                        perfect - you just described the entire GOP playbook - jesus accounts for 80% of their support - so the bottom line is if you are simple enough to believe a guy came back from the dead ( to give THEM eternal life ) you are also simple enough to live and die by fox news talking points - there is a direct connection , a common thread - to sum it up they are simple - simple sheep -

                                                        • 3 votes
                                                        #24.2 - Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:45 AM EST
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                                                        Cain is a joke and an idiot... How could anyone support such a fool. Are the standards of the American people so low that we would even for a moment consider someone like Cain to be President of this country and leader of the free world. None of these GOP candidates represent and real stands of decency and honor, thoughtfulness and intelligence... all we get are reactionary hate and war mongers and bigots and religious fanatics.

                                                        • 20 votes
                                                        Reply#25 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:59 PM EST
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                                                        and yet almost anyone would be better then the financial terrorist squatting in the White House now.

                                                        • 5 votes
                                                        #25.1 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:44 PM EST

                                                        Frank, s t f u.

                                                        • 14 votes
                                                        #25.2 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:53 PM EST

                                                        TO: Frank-739698 who wrote:

                                                        "and yet almost anyone would be better then the financial terrorist squatting in the White House now."

                                                        No Frank, Bush is NOT in the White House any longer.

                                                        • 15 votes
                                                        #25.3 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:20 PM EST

                                                        Frank....you are part of the problem....not part of the solution!

                                                        • 8 votes
                                                        #25.4 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:35 PM EST

                                                        Financial Terrorist? That's at least somewhat original. Just further slander against Obama with no substantive numbers or facts. But of course!

                                                        Watching Cain right now from the debate. He is clueless about the Middle East. So who do you back, Mr. Cain? Just amazing ignorance, he is a literal buffoon. Ron Paul makes much more sense on FP. Get out! We cannot be the world's policeman. We will sit off shore as Obama is moving towards. Even Perry makes more sense (well, not really!)!!!

                                                        • 6 votes
                                                        #25.5 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:42 PM EST

                                                        Frank

                                                        Financial Terrorist, good one. Thanks for passing on the little bit of Rush's show that you remember.

                                                        • 6 votes
                                                        #25.6 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:34 PM EST

                                                        The repubs and tp's in here that continuiously blame President Obama for Gw spending, whats wrong with them? Are they trying to brainwash people in here thinking their party will get more votes in Nov? Are they in denial? No matter what and it dosen't matter to them how wrong they are, they won't look at the facts or listen to someone trying to give them the facts and just plain common sense about Gw. Thats unreal, this country might have some big problems, will these same people cost this country a lot of money for home care and meds because they are sick? Will the cost of health care sky rocket because of these people? Its too bad they can't live on Gw's ranch. Maybe he can put them on his insurance since he's responsible for them being so out of it. I don't know if he drugged them or what but I doubt if waterboarding would break them now. He did something to them. I'm thinking that maybe he put something in everyones drinking water. Will we ever really know what drives these people to such insanity to believe Gw had the lowest budget of the last 4 presidents. So many unanswered questions as far as a lot of peoples behavior???

                                                        • 3 votes
                                                        #25.7 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:46 PM EST

                                                        I'm thinking that Cain may have thought the question he was being asked was about the vegetables he eats from a can. Dale High, another thing we can't forget about the candidates is that some of them are also racists. Well Rich Perry is a confirmed racist and well a snitch too. He snitched on Cain about his sexual harrassment charges. One thing I do have to give this whole group of candidates is pat on the back thank you. This has been the most entertaining comedy of errors that wasn't written. Impromptu politics at its finest. I would have to believe that Hollywood right now is trying to write something similar to this and they must have the best writers and actors possibly obtained to mimic this kind of dark humor with candidates running for president. I can't wait til the movie comes out, I'll be sure to see it, just for the memories it will bring back for me.

                                                        • 4 votes
                                                        #25.8 - Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:22 PM EST
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