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Subscribe to RSSMark Murray and Domenico Montanaro weigh the possibility of Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., or Gov. Bob McDonnell, R-Va. as a vice presidential candidate on the 2012 ticket.
NOTE: Since we taped this segment, Republicans won control of the state Senate in Virginia. Both Democrats and Republicans hold 20 seats in the Virginia Senate. Republican Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling holds the tie-breaking vote, giving Republicans their one-vote advantage.
Thanks to Bob-1887910 for the question! Keep an eye out later in the week for our next Inside the Boiler Room segments!
TRANSCRIPT:
DOMENICO MONTANARO: Welcome again to another edition of Inside the Boiler Room. Well, we have another question from Bob 1887910 we always love to be able to get comments from Bob and he says: “If my immensely popular Governor Bob McDonnell helps flips the State Senate to the GOP next week, giving Republicans unprecedented full control of Virginia government, will he then top Marco Rubio in the Veepstakes rankings?” A lot there.
MARK MURRAY: Well, right. Here’s how I kind of look at the GOP Veepstakes stakes right now. Marco Rubio had kind of a tough row with that Washington Post report about when his parents came to the United States. You can get into the particulars, but it came to the point that he hasn’t yet been vetted. You can almost look at him “1A,” Bob McDonnell “1B.” What McDonnell essentially ends up giving you is somebody who could, is a popular governor of a battleground state in Virginia, so automatically they might think, look you know we’re going to have a problem in Virginia. If you get Bob McDonnell. He could also end up helping if say, Mitt Romney is the nominee. Sure some of that evangelical, social conservative--
DOMENICO MONTANARO: -- Sure, a lot of people don’t know he takes a very moderate tone, he’s been a moderate governor, but he went to Liberty University and is a strong Evangelical.
MARK MURRAY: Yeah, absolutely. So, and one other thing to keep in mind about Bob McDonnell: his job runs out in 2013. And so when you’re looking at Marco Rubio’s world, he’s only been in the senate for one year, he has big ambitions. Chris Christie of course, he might end up running for re-election. Bob McDonnell is actually going to need a job, come pretty soon because he’s terminated, you only get one term as governor. And so, if you are the republican nominee, he ends up making a lot of sense.
DOMENICO MONTANARO: Yeah, that’s definitely true. Rubio, you’re right, took a hit because of that story. You know there are also some other issues with Rubio as to whether or not you know, he’s experienced enough, but Barak Obama had that issue. And you know, whether or not he actually appeals to, what demographic he appeals to, you know, who knows. But, picking him would be all about Florida. If Republicans felt that they couldn’t win Florida. His popularity there--
MARK MURRAY: And you know the Latino vote too, potentially--
DOMENICO MONTANARO: Well, in Florida. But, and then when you look at somebody else, Chris Christie, you know could be another person, you know, John McCain picked Sarah Palin, that most of us had taken her of the veep list because of issues back in Alaska that we thought, she’s under investigation, he’s not going to pick her. But he did because she could fire up the base. Nobody fires up the base like Chris Christie does. So you know, maybe there’s somebody like him. And McDonnell also, aside from the state senate stuff, which you mention would be a nice feather in his cap, just what he’s done with jobs in the state. You know, he beat out Maryland for these defense contractor jobs. He understands federal workers, and he can speak that way because they are a large constituency group in Northern Virginia. So, I think that he, because of that, is an attractive candidate because he’s not going to make too many mistakes.
MARK MURRAY: He is. The one thing that, to note about Virginia though, is that all of their recent governors have been very popular. You have Mark Warner with his job growth, Tim Cain was very popular and now you have Bob McDonnell. One of the reasons Virginia is doing so well is it’s so close to Washington, DC. There’ve been a ton of jobs, the defense contractors, etc. and it doesn’t look like the rest of the nation just yet. But, I mean, I think that he, right now Bob McDonnell certainly looks like a 1A or 1B to me on whoever is on the veepstakes next.
DOMENICO MONTANARO: They’re real popular until you give them a second term, right. We’ll see.
Transcribed by NBC's Annie Emberland and Laura Olson.
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Congrats Bobby lots of #'s on having your question selected!
Are you satisfied now or will your perpetual whining continue?
Personally, my choice for Veep is either Bachmann or Cain!
Any of the 'A' list Republicans have enough sense to sit this out until 2016!
You can't go wrong pandering for the stuck on stupid vote! ;o)
Something that should really scare the Libs is a Obama v Gingrich and a Rubio/Mcdonell v Biden Debate.
Oh, how I would pay money to see those debates!
Talk about getting schooled.......
Oh YES!
I am positively shaking in my stiletto's lmao!
Something that should really scare the Libs is a Obama v Gingrich and a Rubio/Mcdonell v Biden Debate.
Wow, you don't know any liberals do you? You want your candidate to be Newt Gingrich? Really? The man is a walking bag of scum. He is the only Speaker of the House to ever be disciplined for ethics problems, and his own party ran him out of Congress long ago.
Let me assure you, liberals are not at all afraid of Newt Gingrich. We would love you idjits to choose Newt. LOVE IT.
Gingrich would wipe the floor with Obama on any and all governing issues.
Whether it is Economics or National Security, Obama wouldn't stand a chance.
Obama will be left to his usual stuttering.
The same goes for "Gaffe a minute" Joe Biden.
Did you buy your crystal ball new or used? ;o)
Maybe you should stick with reading your tea leaves! lol
Gingrich is a despicable turd of a man and a fool who is wrong on most every issue.
Whether it is Economics or National Security, Gingrich is a clown who wouldn't stand a chance against Obama or any other Democrat.
Gingrich will no doubt console himself by having another affair. I'm sure he would enjoy it more if his wife of the moment Calista were to come down with some terrible disease. That makes Newt hot.
Guess you don't remember White Collar Auto - but the motto for years has been "Neuter Newt!" And we finally did, don't be thinking we saved those stones, we did not and he would not be worthy of them if we did. He will never carry the women's vote and that's about 1/2 of the voting public. Rick Perry and Ron Paul want to do away with the Department of Education a and a few others that Perry can't think of, Huntsman is too centrist for the tea party, Mit will never carry the south, Bauchman is nuts and Cain will not be a better choice than any of the above mentioned. Just because the pool is deep does not mean it is clean or safe to swim in!
Crystal Balls, Tea leaves and Stilettos, eh Feisty?
Great response.
Thanks for proving my point.
I don't think Vice Presidential debates matter much. And it's questionable how much a VP choice helps or hurts.
Sarah did a bang up job against Biden, who basically just tried not to make news during their debate. I doubt anyone who was for Obama was dissuaded by the Biden's performance. I believe Sarah helped McCain with the base, and that was the point of her presence on the ticket.
Really? Were you not paying attention in 2008?
Better question...were you not paying attention in January 2010 when he ran circles around the GOP?
Newt won't win the nomination because at some point the GOP will be reminded of why they don't like him...don't take my word for it...
Now here's a rather interesting Vice President
Richard Mentor Johnson.
Johnson served as Vice President from March 4, 1837, to March 4, 1841. His term was largely remarkable,
and he enjoyed little influence with President Van Buren. His penchant for wielding his power for his own interests did not abate. He lobbied the Senate to promote Samuel Milroy, whom he owed a favor, to the position of Indian agent. When Lewis Tappan requested presentation of an abolitionist petition to the Senate, Johnson, who was still a slaveholder, declined the request.
As presiding officer of the Senate, Johnson was called on to cast a tie-breaking vote fourteen times, more than all of his predecessors save John Adams and John Calhoun. Despite the precedent set by some of his predecessors, Johnson never addressed the Senate on the occasion of a tie-breaking vote; he did once explain his vote via an article in the Kentucky Gazette.
Following the financial Panic of 1837, Johnson took a nine-month leave of absence, during which he returned home to Kentucky and opened a tavern and spa on his farm to offset his continued financial problems. Upon visiting the establishment, Amos Kendall wrote to President Van Buren that he found Johnson "happy in the inglorious pursuit of tavern keeping – even giving his personal superintendence to the chicken and egg purchasing and water-melon selling department".
Johnson received 5 wounds in the War of 1812. His horse received 20 bullets.
President James Monroe considered Johnson for Secretary of War after Henry Clay declined, but ultimately John C. Calhoun won the post.
Following his term as vice-president, Johnson returned to Kentucky to tend to his farm and oversee his
tavern. He again represented Scott County in the Kentucky House from 1841 to 1843. In 1845, he served as a pallbearer when Daniel Boone was re-interred in Frankfort Cemetery.
He died of a stroke on November 19, 1850. He was 70.
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And of course there was Vice President Aaron Burr.
Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton first came into public opposition during the famed election of 1800. In the election, Aaron Burr ran as Vice-President on the Democratic-Republican Party ticket with Thomas Jefferson against John Adams (the incumbent Federalist). Electoral college rules at the time gave each elector two votes for president, with the candidate receiving the second most votes becoming vice president. The Democratic-Republican Party therefore planned to have 72 of their 73 electors vote for both Jefferson and Burr, with the remaining elector voting only for Jefferson. However, the electors failed to execute this plan, so Burr and Jefferson tied with 73 votes each. As mandated by the United States Constitution in the event of no candidate winning a majority, the election was moved to the United States House of Representatives, which was controlled by the Federalists, many of whom were loath to vote for Jefferson. Hamilton, however, regarded Burr as far more dangerous than Jefferson and used all his influence to ensure Jefferson's election. On the 36th ballot, the House of Representatives gave Jefferson the presidency, with Burr becoming vice president.
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Needless to say Burr and Hamilton never quite hit it off.
I'm confused noid. Who ran circles around the GOP in 2010?
First -- Congrats Bob! Great questions.
WCA -- You must have missed the article that talks about the lack of substance behind Mr. Grinch in his answers. A lot of words but not much else.
As for me....just pick a candidate and let's see what transpires from there. Who you for WCA?
The liberals posting here are totally bypassing the fact that Obama has a huge amount of negatives he's carrying with him. Liberals are blind to the negatives because they act like they don't even exist. There will be some very suprised liberals when Obama loses in 2012 because they think they are the only ones voting. Never forget, independents and republicans get to vote too.
Rubio also has a fraud issue, he seems to think he can use his campainge master card to finance personal and family issues and trips.
The vetting's not gonna be pretty for him.
Let alone other than being a nice looking latino, he's done absolutely nothing for Florida.
I was referring to the January 2010 GOP retreat where President Obama met with House Republicans.
Tom: Let alone other than being a nice looking latino
Time and time again, you Liberals prove who the real racists are.
Well Noid, how did that supposed "retreat" work out at the end of 2010 for the Dem's?
BrianB is right. Most of the Libs on this board are so blinded by their love for the President, they fail to see the mounting negatives of his Presidency.
WCA old Bob Scheifer took Newt apart on Face the Nation a few months back, he won't be a problem for Obama in a debate, don't confuse his self promoting infomercials as an ability to debate.
Obama has negatives to be sure, but if you have a negative 5 and a negative 10, then the negative 5 is positive with respect, and relative to the negative 10. Thats the reality, if the republican candidates are seen as more negative than Obama, then it renders him positive.
Good question Bob and an informative answer.
FR -- I love you guys, but come on you can do a better analysis than that.
First off the turn-out for the 2011 elections in Virginia were low. Whenever the turn-out is low, that means seniors and others who tend to be more conservative win the day.
Secondly, McDonell has been more moderate and compromising compared to Teapublicans in other states, and if he and the legislature goes too far to the Right like Florida, Wisconsin, Ohio, etc., the pendulum will swing back in 2013.
And third, the Virginia election is not reflective of elections nationwide. Conservatives (bob, of course) are putting a lot of emphasis on this because it's all they have right now. So here's the follow-up questions: Is it really that big of a deal?
As for the Veepstakes, he doesn't have the name recognition others have, and upon nation-wide vetting, my guess is an Evangelical will actually hurt the GOP ticket.
Forrest -- Great post! ; )
"Gingrich would wipe the floor with Obama on any and all governing issues."
Newt is fine when he's with the current collection of morons running for president and he's fine on Fox news where he's never challenged. But when he has somebody with any real knowledge in debating him -- he he comes off as the fool he is. Remember -- Clinton chewed him up and spit him out and Obama will make make Newt look even worse than Clinton did.
WCA - do you have a problem with good looking Latinos, I don't, my point had more to do with the fact he's done nothing for Florida.
Read the whole sentence before you put your play you bigotry card. I'll allow you your own opinion (as moronic as it may be), but not your own facts.
"..immensely popular Governor Bob McDonnell..."
ugh, this guy is despicable. Take money out of the school system to fight right-wing battles... Plus he's a milquetoast, Dan Quayle kinda guy... Rubio or Christie would be way better imo although I don't share their politics either.
It may come as a surprise to the regular FR lefty liberals, but, I expect Barry will win the 2012 election in a close race. And I look forward to it. Not for the good of the American people, but, instead, to put the lefty liberal dream of an American European-style welfare state finally to rest-in-peace. My favorite scenario is Barry's second term spin to blame the 2009-12 administration for the mess he has "inherited".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
White Collar Auto -- Anyone who makes the argument that Teapublicans are stronger on national security than the president must have been living under a rock for the last decade. This claim is over with--not just in light of the failed Bush doctrine and war debacles, but also the lack of foreign policy credentials among the current GOP/TP field. And most important of all is the incredible national security and foreign policy achievements of President Obama in only three year's time. Move off this one conservatives...
I always get a laugh from right-wing claims that someone like Newt will beat the president in debates. Newt is notorious for going off message including sticking his foot in his mouth. The reason conservatives idolize right-wingers like Newt (and Sean Hannity!) is because like their leadership, Teapublicans supporters completely lack the ability to discern what is really intellectual, credible, and most of all truthful.
BTW, Newt is only one of many Republican scandals -- Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff are the first to come to mind.
Prior to the 2010 election, the GOP/TP begged for a second chance to make things right (e.g., campaigning on JOBS). Immediately after the election they made a complete 360 to focus on underhanded "strategery" to manipulate future elections (union-busting, gerrymandering, suppressing the vote, etc.), along with the same old agenda of God, gays and guns, and silliness like commemorative coins and anything except job creation.
Putting Teapublicans back at the helm, whether the White House or congress, would be hari kari.
Aside from being an "anchor baby," Rubio has flip-flopped similar to Romney, with his position on Medicare as a great example. As for physical appearance, it may have been Sean Hannity's blog, but there have been comments about Rubio being only 5'7" and going bald -- Just saying.
OMG,...Thanks, Amy for conjuring up the image of the SNL skit on the VP debate of 2008. By far that single skit was one of the absolutely funniest things I have ever seen. Queen Latifah as Gwen Ifill and the look on her face when Sarah said, "oh are we not doing the talent portion..." - I still chuckle heartily just at the thought.
"...I think I nailed it...Joe Biden is better than THAT..." - man oh man were those some good times.
I see a few of the zealot Repubs are digging their heals in for ANY candidate that has an R after their name; but I am pretty convinced they are seriously delusional if they think ANY of them stands a chance in the General Election against President Obama. Romney possibly could have beat him,...until the debate/campaign season where he literally hitched himself to a Rightwing Flagpole,...and their he flows, whichever way the wind blows.
Good Luck, Repubs, I maintain that you are going to need it!
I heard a conservative commentator who was talking about Gingrich and his biggest concern was that Newt tends to lose his cool when challenged, really challenged. This is a problem for republicans, you should never under estimate your opponent and they do that big time with Obama. Getting Newt past all the caving to the very right wing he has been doing for the last month with independents is going to be a big enough challenge.
Jan-21270 -- I believe Romney lacks the correct temperament as well--this was also a problem for McCain (and OMG Nixon's tapes), but Newt is a fraud, period.
Most of the GOP/TP field lacks gravitas let alone qualifications. Most recent "Katie Couric" moments were Perry's inability to name the Dept. of Energy and Herman Cain's poor responses on foreign policy most recently on Libya. Ron Paul is a century too late and a little out there. Bachmann and Santorum have long been known for being wing-nuts, but in Bachmann's case she is also ill-informed.
It seems this article has attracted all the Obama leg-humpers like flies to a turd.
It won't be magical to beat Obama in a debate. Anyone could beat Obama in a debate. That's a given considering his long list of blunders and failed economic policy. He will be easy meat for the GOP meat grinder. LOL
Nope, sorry Barrack baby, no teleprompters allowed in the debate. LOL
Better question...if a Republican is elected can we have the President actually be President this time instead of letting the VP run the show?
Ok I think you took Cheney's book a little bit too much to heart...after year one, certainly year two, Cheney was the only one who thought he was President. Can't stand GW, but fair is fair.
My personal choices are Bachmann or Santorum. I find delusional people fascinating.
My personal choices are Bachmann or Santorum. I find delusional people fascinating.
We know poindexter you voted for hope and change barry
And you voted for "ornery, hopelessly out of touch and his running mate: just plain crazy dumb"? let's see how you like your choice this time.
Romney/Rubio 2012
Make the bumper stickers now! It's a done deal.
GO GOP/TP 2012 Romney/Rubio - Flip-flopper/Fibber
Foolio and Rubio 2012
Actually Romney does not even need a VP because when you vote for Romney you buy one and get one free.
Just to add -------------I will never forgive Sarah Palin for not running!
Ha, and neither will I.
Dissgree a little. Mc Donnell is to smart to tie in with this crop of Yahoo's and a losing cause. Look for him top be in contention in 2016 when he has a chance to do something positive for a ticket. Same with Christie and a lot of the others. This years Presidental Race is fast becoming a thowaway for the Republican/ T.P.
Indy Redneck - I totally agree with you, and I think the RNC does as well. Why else would the chairman make noise if they were in the catbird's seat? It is all a SHOW. I think what I find most insulting - if I was a Conservative - is the fact that the GOP is making the very important and thoughtful choice for a candidate as the nominee for President fodder for a 'reality show'.
Bottom line: The GOPers think Conservatives are STUPID and the Conservatives are proving them RIGHT.
What proof do I have?
Newt Gingrich is not in it to be President, he is in it to make money and support his wife.
Rick Perry is not in it to be President, he is there to make noise and stupid statement until his$17 Million runs out
Michele Bachmann is not in it to be President, she is the foil for the ultra-ultra-ULTRA right-wing and they continue to support her (we know that the number is 4%).
Ron Paul wants to be President, but his Libertarian views are too outlandish, even for the GOPers.
Rick Santorum - Rick WHO???
John Huntsman - too smart for this group. He will NEVER get the nomination.
Herman Cain - Hermie the Clown wants to be president, but the GOP establishment will not let him. EVER. Not in this life or any other life.
Which leaves Mitt Romney - his penchant for 'going where the wind blows' is driving the GOP establishment nuts, but he will do as the sacrifice against President Obama in 2012.
You would think that the GOPers would be able to put up better candidates, but they didn't and I do NOT think that was an accident.
Conservatives, you are being played.
Punked.
Hoodwinked.
Bamboozled.
Shyster-ed.
And if you continue to support the GOP, the outcome will be President Obama's 2nd term.
Carry on!
Pietro,
How are you today, good I hope. I find your article a little on the negative side, lol. I agree, as I said yesterday, it's really hard to beat an incumbent, however in my life time it has happened twice. I remember all the jokes and talk about Clinton being an unknown (weak governor form of government in Ark) and no national exposure. Had a good campaign staff and pounded the economy, which was not as bad as it is now. Then along came Obama, no real political experience, not heavily vetted by the news media (BTW Clinton was not heavily vetted either). I remember people saying that the country was not ready to elect a black man, especially one with little or no political experience. Good campaign with lots of money and the backing of the MSM. So politics is a very funny thing and takes many turns. (Remember Dewey and Truman) (Carter and Reagan). If I member right Carter and Reagan were, according to the polls, a dead heat until a few days before election day. Turned out to be one of the biggest landslides in history.
I agree the current crop of Republicans might not be the best, and I would like to see someone else enter the race, but at least one or two will beat Obama unless the economy picks up and the unemployment rate drops to at least 6% or below. The republicans will take a page from Clinton's advisers "It's the economy stupid".
sfcret: Pure wishful thinking. You can't beat somebody with nobody. Some of us are old enough to remember the disatrous 8 years of Bush.
sfcret - Thank you for your post and I hope you are doing well yourself.
If your take on my post to Indy Redneck seems a little negative, it was intended to be. Believe it or not, I happen to care about this country and I do take offence to how a Presidential nomination is being mocked and belittled a 'no big thing'. If your party is SERIOUS about putting up a challenge to President Obama, then DO IT and stop screwing around. Stop insulting people's intelligence by putting on a 'reality show'. Stop the madness by putting up a 'new' person every other week as the 'front runner', as if we didn't know that the polls are manipulated. As a Conservative, I would think that you would feel the same way.
On the other hand, I find this whole process quite amusing and fascinating as a NON-Conservative person. I am sitting here watching this whole thing go down and I am wondering when the Conservatives are going to actually get MAD at their Party playing them for fools. I laugh every day at the new inane antics that are being put up for everyone's consumption. I am pretty comfortable in my calculus that the GOPers and Tea Partyers will NOT be able to beat President Obama, no matter what his poll numbers say.
I am also kinda surprised there is no outrage from Conservatives being punked. It is kinda like having stolen a million dollars in currency and you have it stashed in in your safe deposit box, only to find out that the bank was broken into and your safe deposit box has been stolen by thieves. Now you are out of a million dollars AND you CANNOT report it because the million dollars was STOLEN!!
This is where I see you as a conservative, sfcret, and frankly, even though we rarely agree on anything, I do NOT want to see you or any other Conservative played for a fool. I wrote the post above to get the Conservatives out of NEUTRAL so that they will do SOMETHING about this chicanery.
Frankly, this whole situation sets a bad precedent. Choosing a nominee for the President of the United States should be a very serious, careful and deliberate process, NOT a reality show.
Sfcret, let's hope that the more moderate and sensible voices will prevail. The Republicans are going to give away the Presidency to President Obama for this cycle and there is really nothing any Conservative can do about it.
Congratualtions Bob on getting your question chosen. I bet you're happy with the First Read answer. Here's my take:
McConnell is too much like Romney. They are interchangeable. Independents (i.e. voters who don't follow politics closely,) will be confused who's running at the top pf the ticket, and won't vote.
Rubio is too good to be in second place on a Romney ticket. His performance as VP candidate will make voters realize how mediocre Romney is.
Interesting that none of the current crop of candidates seems to be in the running for Veep. I wondered if they would turn to Santorum in order to placate the base.
Amy -- McDonnell is an evangelical. Important factor for some in politics.
Thanks Amy.
McDonnell is a conservative, well thought of by the Tea Party, who has focused on economic issues.He is Irish Catholic, not an evangelical. He went to Notre Dame!
After the 2008 election, Virginia was almost like my native Massachusetts, all Democrat. Starting with McDonnell's election in 2009, the state has totally turned around. Very impressive accomplishment. McDonnell is a political superstar.
Nobody knows McDonnell or wants to know him. Too frickin boring, just like Mitt. Romney needs a more exciting sidekick like Rubio or Christie.
I do not want a McDonnell anywhere close to such huge decision making capabilities for the country - what a frickin disaster..
bob well bless your heart, being well thought of by the tea bag party. Now that says allot. I bet that puts him over the top.(LOL)
My mistake per article info. Did he attend Liberty?
Bob: only because McConnell keeps his wing nut far right faction at bay by staying away from social issues.... He doesn't have to bow to the fanatics in the base because he can't run again. Amazing how smart that can make you about takling real problems like roads and schools...even if you're a Republican.
Romney will pick Christie or Rubio as V.P. hoping to get a few extra votes from Christie supporters or the Hispanic community. He won't pick any of these clowns. He is too much of a gentleman to call them that but it goes through his head daily. He won't pick Huntsman because the common religion will cost them votes in the South. I believe Huntsman, if not the presidential candidate, is the best candidate for VP. But Romney will pick someone that brings votes with him. That is why Obama will be reelected in 2012.
Rubio has some...uh...authenticity problems to work through at the moment. Romney needs a wing nut to help placate the base who has doubts about his fanatacism....and he needs a southerner or a westerner to placate those who think he's just too smart...that would exclude Huntsman on all counts...and Christie. I'm guessing Bobby Jindell.
Amy,
I agree, Rubio would out shine Romney.
If Rubio wants to be taken seriously, he needs to distant himself from the 2012 Republican candidates.
Except, thetotas, Rubio has some baggage with his exaggeration of the story of his family leaving Cuba. That is going to hurt him.
McDonnell is the safest is choice at this moment. But, could always change.
Rubios main 'baggage' is that he is NOT eligible to be the POTUS. His parents were not U.S. citizens when he was born. For details, see:
MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/minor-v-happersett-is-binding-precedent-as-to-the-constitutional-definition-of-a-natural-born-citizen/
The base thinks they love Christie because he's anti-union, anti-taxes, etc. But he is a NEW JERSEY Republican and that makes all the difference - i.e., he has very moderate views on social issues like gun control, homosexuality, etc. He can't go all Teabagger on those issues because, if he was on the ticket and Obama got reelected, Christie would be done in NJ. He wouldn't stand a chance of re-election as Governor. And as much as he fires up the base in a good way, he fires up unions, teachers, etc., in a negative way. Those numbers may just cancel each other out. Lastly, there's religion - not only is Christie not an Evangelical, he's (gasp!) Catholic. I don't think the Teabaggers like them any more than they do Mormons.
Lisa, there are a lot of delusional posts here, but yours takes the cake.
The Tea Party was formed as "Taxed Enough Already" . It is an economic focus, not ethnicity or social issues. But show your class by using a crude sexual term.
Both Christie and McDonnell are Catholic.
bob, well bless your heart. you know why its called the tea bag party, cause of your tea bags hanging off your hats. You tea baggers should have thought of that, before you thought up the name. There is nothing more fun than getting y'all flustered when you get called tea baggers. By the what does religion have to do with being a tea bagger?
big bob lots numbers
the word WAS is operative. tea WAS an economic focus,...then the allowed themselves to be co-opted by the far right nutjobs,...
May I present you with your CANDIDATES? Choose wisely, little cricket.
if Rubio wants to be takn seriously, he could start by telling the truth about his family immigrant history!
I know you guys want the precious SCOOP of the other media but good grief! The Republicans haven't even selected the top of the ticket yet. Thinking of possible Veep is way, way, way too premature.
Thanks for answering my question, gentlemen , very much appreciated ! Very good insight.
Domenic, Bob McDonnell is not an Evangelical, but is Irish Catholic. Arguably making him even more attractive to Romney.
Too many stiff boring white guys. Romney needs Christie or Rubio. McDonnell is (milque) toast ..
What is wrong with boring white guys?
Two allegedly boring white guys (Romney and McDonnell) will easily beat a failed radical black President, and a gaffe-prone old white boob.
McDonnell has about as much personalty as a test dummy...
uh, Bob...look around you....open your eyes. Even in Virginia, this is not 1950's America. Boring, (even if they're angry) old white guys who talk about corporations being people and the joys of trickle down economics and how God wants them to run to make America safe from you know, "those" people, are not America's future. Welcome to the 21st century.
MarlonJacobs
which would bring some much needed LIFE to Romney's ticket, no? lol
Romney has the teapublican nomination in his pocket and regardless of who he chooses for his VP, President Obama will win a second term.
"..immensely popular Governor Bob McDonnell..."
ugh, this guy is despicable. Take money out of the school system to fight right-wing battles... Plus he's a milquetoast, Dan Quayle kinda guy... Rubio or Christie would be way better imo although I don't share their politics either.
McDonnell has a 62% approval rating. Read it and weep.
I hate McDonnell. I think he sucks.
"62% approval rating"
They must have just polled southern Va where most of the gun lunatics are. Not many people in NoVA or Fairfax would vote for him. We just elected mostly Dems here - sick and tired of Teabagging politics!!
He's only polling well because McDonnell keeps his right wing nuts in check, but he's another 'not ready for prime time' state politician with no national following and no tools to get there.
if he's truely that popular running for pres you got nothing else
When all the budget cuts that the Republicans want start taking effect, Virginia will look like Detroit. Being the governor of Virginia will not be an asset in the future, any more than being the mayor of Washington DC would be an asset to those seeking higher office.
Republicans in Virginia have feasted on government jobs the same way that Texas governors have feasted on big oil industries. At some point, you have to pay the piper, though. People are getting smart. If McConnell starts claiming that he "created" lots of Virginia jobs, he'll be rejected, too.
hope they have a better time picking a vp than there having picking a pres....black and a mormom in the south lets see who you can get to alienate the rest of the country....u guys acutually picked 8 people for pres that can't get 20% of your owe vote....and none of you like....keep up the good work gop...you're doing some great work...ha by the way i love you guys wasting your money and beating up on each other....doing work the dems couldn't do....
when the rich gop types talk about trickle down they're talking about the golden shower they're given the rest of us right...
Mitch or Hoeven! The deficit is out of control, and we need a guy who can work with zeroes. I am tired of both parties nominating people with a nano seconds worth of experience. Did not realize McDonnell has only one term - I am not certain that is too smart. Mitch the blade was the head of the office of Budget and Management - I love Mitch. Hoeven was president of the Bank of North Dakota for seven years, then as Governor created 40,000 jobs and is an energy expert. Let Marco ripen a bit. Maybe McDonnell should run for the Senate and get rid of Webb. I think George Allen is going to take on Mark Warner (I will have to check on that). Dang, don't the transplant Yankees screw up the South?
Rubio can NOT run second seat on a presidential ticket.
Marco Rubio’s parents were NOT U.S. citizens therefore he is NOT eligible to be POTUS or VEEP. If he is a true patriot and supporter of the Constitution, he will immediately call a press conference and announce that he is not a ‘natural born citizen’ because his parents were not U.S. citizens and that he cannot accept any invitation to join a presidential ticket. For more eligibility info, see:
Help me make that happen. Go to Tell Rubio that you expect him to do the right thing so that we can both fix the constitutional crisis we currently face and forever prevent another from occurring. This problem should have been resolved following Chester A. Arthur’s administration when it was discovered that his father was not a U.S. citizen when Chester was born – but it wasn’t. Let's finally put this question to rest.
If Rubio will stand tall and make that announcement, it would immediately shine a spotlight on Barry's ineligibility and force the SCOTUS/Congress to act. Help me make that happen! It will only take a couple minutes - please do it now!
Rubio? Really? Really?Rubio would be more of an anchor than Sarah was.
desperation cause you to do stupid things i.e. sara palin for v.p. last election...last minute show alot about the ability of the gop...