He's named after a spider and once in a while suddenly appears from a nook...

Perhaps he's really Peter Parker?

We're looking for a clear articulate conservative spokesman for the Republicans against Obama,

Good luck with that one....The best joke of the vine.

Perry forgetting what departments he would cut out of the budget, Cain not remembering a judgement or sexual (settlement) against him, Romney forgetting the position he took yesterday, Bachmann forgetting to check the facts before making statements, Gingrich forgetting he cheated on his wife when she had cancer, then makes ethics statements, and Ron Paul ... well .........

Meanwhile, many democrats around the country are looking for someone, anyone that could replace the inept and incompetent twosome of Obama and Biden.

Obama's base is shrinking every day... perhaps many of those lost are considering one of the capable Republican candidates.... each superior to Obama in many ways!

Meanwhile ... many Democrats are wondering how it was even possible for Obama to keep the ship afloat after the horrible mess created by Bush ... and the Republicans lacking any resemblance of self respect ... won't admit they failed and are responsible ...

And to brag about the clowns they have running now ... beyond laughable .....

FEAR NOT

After SC, Republicans will have a front runner. Expect the pachyderm herd to get in line.

1. Who really is CONSERVATIVE?

2. Who is ARTICULATE enough to stand on the stage with Obama?

3. Who has the ability to be COMMANDER IN CHIEF?

Now that Cain, Perry & Bachmann are finish we can get back on a normal path !!!!!!!!!!!

The Republican community cannot bare to read the truth ... truth hurts!!!!

They can say "delusional idiots" and hey ... it's ok

Perry supporters bought a turd and they know it. That is why they are "shopping around". You really trust a guy that wants to wholesale cut government departments he can't even name. He made those wholesale cuts in Texas. Remember the cutting for state funds for EMS and fire departments? He cut funding from fire departments during a drought! Then they had terrible wild fires! That's the kind of judgement we don't need. I think he is a drunk. From his various TV appearances he seems like he has had more than a couple of drinks. I support making government do more with less. Cut ALL departments 10%. Not just cut departments.

Romney's going to be the nominee. It was never going to be Perry. I just try to show the brain dead what they'll never see at FR.

If Romney was President, GM/Chrysler would be closed. If Perry was President SS/Medicare would have been eliminated. If Cain, Bachman. Gingrich, and the rest were President, clean air/water, national parks, safe streets, etc would no longer exist as the EPA/ Forest Service and others would be closed All to balance the budget, kill unions and remove the regulations that protect you and I.

This country is one short vote from the rope and the hate that brings lynching. Save this country and yourself by removing the Republican party from office. Think about it.

The Democrats are one step away from Mugabe! Newt is the best. I thought Perry was a mediocre Governor but that they would run Daniels with him, then have Newt as Secretary of State, and maybe Haley Barbour and some smarter Republicans in his cabinet, but he has been a real dissappointment. I wish Cain and Bachmann and Ron Paul and Gary Johnson and Rick Santorum would drop out. Michelle Bachmann had no business running at all - none. Neither did Herman Cain. I am surprised Linda McMahon did not also run for President - everyone else did. I think Newt is the only one up there with ideas and understanding - no more Mugabebama. Wow. The Democrats are liars and they have the very far left in power. I would love to see someone like Brian Schweitzer in there instead of Mengistu's illegitimate son.

@newscover...... bottom feeding liberal..... there, I said it!! "delusional idiots".

And then there were two:

Romney or Gingrich...

The debates have done their jobs and separated the wheat from the chaff. Mr. Romney is the every position man having held dear each and every possible position necessary to appeal to one voting block or another.

Gingrich has pressed on with an undying philosophical and professorial tone that has finally risen to the surface over the flavor of the day pretenders. Gingrich will crush Romney in a debate one on one but will he get that chance.

Gingrich will smoke Obama when he gets to debate him if he wins. Romney will also do well debating Obama on his record.

Pachyderms in '12.

Otherwise we continue down the rat hole following the European socialist debt model that they are all to clearly demonstrating as folly. Need we see more to turn the ship from this direction? Obama campaigned in '08 that we should model that system and now we are seeing it unravel. Do you not think the Republicans are licking their chops at the debate points and ads they can run?

Why is that, John? Because if Obama gets re-elected we'll ALL be in the poor house?

Please tell me you are just misinformed. Under GOP, the concept of "Poor House" would have new meaning:

The GOP/Koch/Norquist Party wants to get rid of all of our safety nets and they have been very, very, very loud about it.

According to a new study by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, "shows that in the absence of the social safety net, the poverty rate would rise to 28.6 percent".

Under GOP, the poverty rate would DOUBLE.

"Social safety net programs, as defined by the CBPP, include unemployment insurance, Social Security, veterans' benefits, housing assistance, and a raft of other measures, including half a dozen initiatives included in the 2009 Recovery Act".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/11/poverty-government-programs_n_1088277.html

Conservatives enjoy watching the poor suffer. It reminds them that capitalism is working and that Jesus's work is being done on earth.

these guys all want to take everything from you and give to the rich so they can build more factory's in china.

that the bottom line because al wise said so. avg middle class don't have 1000 dollars in the bank. how can at the end of the year will they be able to pay 9 or 20 % flat tax??someone tell me , it will kill jobs and small

bussiness's . crazy stuff

D-1129384

Don't agree with that comment at all. I don't like seeing the poor suffer any more than the next guy. But face the facts.....the poor are poor for their own doing, no one made them poor except themselves, the government sure as hell didn't have anything to do with it.

I'm on my 3rd (and best ever) job in 4 years. When I got laid off after working a 10 year job, I didn't sit on my ass and cry "poor me", I went out and looked to open doors. Even when I found the next job at 1/2 the pay, I was still out their looking to open better doors.

My brother-in-law is poor, he's always crying. Yet I go there on a Saturday, and he's sitting on his ass watching TV drinking a beer. Which is true for a vast majority of the poor. Go out and educate yourself, look for a second or better job, at the very least read a damn book. There's plenty of Gov't sponsored education assistance available.

To say that me as a Conservative enjoy watching the poor suffer is just flat out wrong. We're just tired of guys like my brother-in-law leeching the system for free handouts costing the country billions when there's plenty of opportunities other than sitting on your ass and depending on the Government to pay for your remote and 12 pack.

Capitalism is easy to capitalize on if you're motivated to do something other than stand in the welfare line so you can go get your next 12 pack.

Hey Al

I'm sure if you owned a business, you wouldn't give me or anyone else one red cent of your profits....

People open businesses to improve their lives and create jobs.....I don't ever recall anyone opening a business with the plan to give everything away....unless it was called welfare.....

But face the facts.....the poor are poor for their own doing, no one made them poor except themselves, the government sure as hell didn't have anything to do with it.

To paraphrase,

"Let them eat cake."

History saw just how well that sort of thinking turned out for Marie Antoinette and French royalty.

Want some free advice? Pop for the Kevlar-reinforced turtleneck the next time you buy clothes.

Laker Steve What your saying we should be indebted to you for opening a business. I get the feeling you think because if one has a business he should get extra benefits like paying less in tax's. That would be corporate welfare.

Laker Steve, I'm glad you know at least one poor person -- many Republicans I've talked to seem to get their ideas about poverty from sitcoms.

I teach at a community college, where many of my students are working full time, taking a full load of classes, AND raising kids. I sure couldn't have finished school under those conditions, but somehow, they manage. Some of them have been kicked out of their homes, some of them are vets, and none of them want a free ride from the government -- just a little help while they try to fight and claw their way up to the middle-class American dream.

We already have upper class welfare. We need upper class welfare reform.

Backhouse,

Well put. The Republicans won't be happy until we look like Brazil--no middle class, just filthy rich and (literally) filthy poor.

Rick Perry wants to eliminate the Dept. of Commerce.

The mission of the department is to "promote job creation and improved living standards for all Americans by creating an infrastruc­ture that promotes economic growth, technologi­cal competitiv­eness, and sustainabl­e developmen­t." Among its tasks are gathering economic and demographi­c data for business and government decision-m­aking, issuing patents and trademarks­, and helping to set industrial standards.

No more entreprene­urship... No more Patents for your inventions­. No more fair Labor!

Perry's an IDIOT!

@Laker Steve-I will pray for you to gain some wisdom. You obviously have been brain-washed. You cannot compare every unemployed person with your brother-in-law. Have you not seen the news where thousands of people show up to apply for a few jobs? Not every poor person is on drugs, alchohol or whatever you may think. Some just don't get the opportunities. And, yes, there are some people who give up so, how about trying to encourage your brother-in-law?

Odds will favor Obama. Newt has a habit of putting his foot in his mouth.

Besides the has not all the nay Sayers called Obama an intellectual. That right there will make him a favorite.

If what you say is true, Darrel, then I don't understand why anyone from NH would vote republican. Republicans want to control every aspect of your personal life according to what they say their bible dictates. The dems helping the less privileged, not demonizing homosexuality, wanting people to have healthcare, all these and more do not stop personal freedoms - they promote personal freedom and responsibility. Booing a gay soldier, laughing if an uninsured man dies, laughing at electrifying a border fence to murder people and continuing corporate welfare at the expense of our country - those actions take away our freedoms and choices.

"Maybe next week it will be Huntsman's turn to be flavor of the week...."

No -- Huntsman has a functioning brain. That is an automatic disqualification for a teapublican presidential candidate.

Huntsman will never have a chance, because conservatives have painted Obama as Hitler for whoam Huntsman served as his Goebbles.

There's no room in the middle for the right (however democrats managed to give a Republican a critical job)

There are no longer moderate Democrats and we have all been driven to the left by the upsurge in the National Socialist Movement that we see going on in the republican party that also has made no room for the moderates!

According to republicans the radical far left is the group that wants food to eat and a dry place to sleep. I do realize that is a pretty outragious demand of the 99%.

I know it is just too much asking the rich to invest in their own country. Somehow republicans seem to think that if we don't have the poor and old dying in the streets we are too socialist.

Didn't the constitution say of the people, by the people and for the people? Or have the republicans taken that part out like the church/state separation?

@clwyd

Do yourself a favor and Google National Socialist Party. It's more like the tea party then the Democrats. I know it's tough for you but please, get a clue.

I know the republicans sound more like the National Socialist Party. That is what I said!

was he a total failure when he ordered the termination of our most feared enemy?

Or was it a failure when he extended the tax break for the struggling rich?

Or was he a failure when ended the war in iraq and set the timetable for an afghan exit? (that's a lot more than I saw the last butthole do)

Congress is a failure, no president can do any more or any less that the legislative branch is willing to do. Republicans in Congress stated what their top priority was to see him fail, they could care less that the American people are collateral damage in their political war against the duly elected president. I will forever punish all republicans with my vote, because they tolerated and went along with that crap. Friends don't let friends vote republican.

D-1129384

Lets not get facts in the way of democrat rhetoric,

Bush ordered the termination of Osama,

Obama just gave the "GO" order when our forces finally got the chance.

Typical of democrats claiming more than what they actually did.

If if lets you sleep at night Egilman to think that then knock yourself out. LOL "When our forces finally got the chance" Yea, 7 years an Bush couldn't manage it, he's still looking for WMD's. Typical of a republican, making crap up to cover their utter failures.

I think sally summed it up pretty well

Sally-1456674

Please don't insult me by calling me a Republican, Because I am not.

And why don't you offer some fact or facts to disprove my point rather than pointless liberal quips?

Bush flubbed his (our) chance to get OBL early on at Bora Bora....decided to let the locals handle it instead of sending our soldiers in to finish him off. That was the biggest blunder Bush ever did....and that's saying a lot.

So say what you will about Obama...but the truth is his handling of OBL and Libya and Iraq and Afghanistan and Egypt have been on the mark each and every time because his executive powers in those regards are not limited by the 'idiot fringe' we now have in Congress. That same 'idiot fringe' is exactly why our President has had such limited success with domestic policies. Blocking every attempt he makes just for political reasons even if it means the harming of America.

November 2012 we have a chance to change that for his next 4 years....vote those treasonous bastards (tea baggers) out and let the best President we have had for a very long, long time bring us the change this country so very much needs.

Barbara, Another way of looking at it...a Democrat will steal your lunch and give it to someone without the forethought to make one for themselves.

watt75, Another way of looking ay it...a republican will steal your lunch and say TUFF S#!T your on your own.

nojo:

How much does the RNC pay you to spout that daily spin and dribble? Just curious.

Not that it matters because regardless of how hard you keep trying, you and the RNC and your cohorts simply can NOT pin the messes on our President when every voter sees and knows what the Republicans are up to. Heck, McConnell stated it pubolicly and made not bones about it, so everone SEES what you are doing, and so does your mother. It really gets old, but it does not change anyone's mind.

But, as usual, you and RNC and teanuts just don't GET IT do you....

(sigh...)

Watt, I wonder just who was it that gave several tax cuts in the time of war to the richest in our nation? The result being a huge debt. Now the very republicans who voted to create that debt act like it was the democrats doing.

So who was it that stole our lunch and gave it to someone like the rich and left nothing for the rest of us? Even now we are not allowed to ask the rich to invest in their own country.

Is there no lie that a republican won't tell themselves? Interesting that for the personal responsibility crowd, it is always someone else fault.

No Jo - Five year olds grow up and like the Chinese listen to their elders - too bad you didn't have that and to disparage me like that is downright silly - you missed the whole point - As you grow up and get educated you look back and take - the best and elininate the worst Education is all about making you think PS one of my cousins is a VP at Dupont - my second cousin is Beruta Galdikas - one of Leekey's girls world reknowned for studying Orangatangs

The religious cult member?

Weve GOT the most corrupt administration since Harding. In fact, Obama, makes Harding look like a Boy Scout.

Every day, we learn more about the recipients of his Dollars to Donors program- borrowed billions that went into the pockets of his big dollar donors for sketchy businesses- some of which have Gone bankrupt, some of which created jobs, okay, in China, Finland, and other foreign countries.

Well, you probably don't know much about it. You read this blog, and think progress, and media matters, and that's it. It's the Obama range- where never is heard a discouraging word.

Perry is a lousy debater, and seems to have no inclination to do the things necessary to get better. That's a shame, because debates have been making and breaking candidacies since Kennedy/Nixon. He's also the most moderate candidate- see his views on immigration- with the best plans to jump start the economy.

So, now we'll choose between Gingrich and Romney- either of whom will eat Obama's lunch during debates.

NoJo

"Weve GOT the most corrupt administration since Harding. In fact, Obama, makes Harding look like a Boy Scout."

Can you prove any of the crap you spew? Good God you're tiresome. We get it, you hate President Obama but please quit lying all the time.

So correct Dennis...

But maybe we let her keep spouting off -

might be VERY beneficial for Obama and the Democrats.

It just gets old after awhile. Blah, Blah, Blah hate Obama, Blah, Blah, Blah, socialist, communist, every "ist". Teleprompter, class warfare, Blah, Blah, Blah, hate Obama.

This person is becoming boring. Trolls are getting old.

Heading out to work. Later guys. Keep the heat on these clowns.

No Joe, As a former retired history teacher I assure you that you must have been asleep in your history classes. Harding had all kinds of corrupt credentials? Please give a list of Obamas. I could probably come up with 100 or more on Harding so get busy! No, I don't intend to list them as I figure your suffering brain farts like the rest of the republicans. Perry, Cain and Bachmann!! lol!

No Joe appears to have blatted and fled. Like many Obama-haters, he's strong on rhetoric and weak on facts.

he's strong on rhetoric and weak on facts

Actually, I think no jo is a she. But yes to all the above--Dennis P. and Not As Stupid are right on target. Her idiotic posts are tiresome.

Actually, I think no jo is a she.

You are correct Jack - she earned the title Granny 'Poll' Dancer with good reason! ;o)

I guess you missed the iWatch report.

Here's this- from Newsweek, no less

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/11/13/how-obama-s-alternative-energy-programs-became-green-graft.html

Dollars to Donors. They just cover the tip of the iceberg- iWatch covered just about every dollar that ended up in Obama donors pockets.

All$780 billion of them.

But you go on ahead with your chanting. Let's see, what is it today? It's not "hope for change" anymore. Nor is it "yes, we can"- because, no, he couldn't. WTf is gone. So is "I need another term to finish the job"- since the electorate responded, "heaven forfend!"

Oh, yeah- I remember- "we can't wait!"

And he's right- we can't.

Obama has been a lame duck since last November. Next November, we send him the moving cartons.

We can't wait.

...And she STILL doesn't get it...

Must be getting paid by the word for all the venemous horse hockey dribble she posts.

Chance are pretty high she will NEVER get it.

I have to agree Sally =

Her mind reminds me of concrete;

all mixed up and permanently set...

Actually - I consider No Jo a coward - hiding behind a stupid name - spouting - attacking everyone - with no thought or solutions - nothing but derisive hate - what is the saying? All show and no go! Maybe not I revert to the "good sisters" "empty barrels make the most noise"

Well reasoned response to No Joe's requested link by the nobama fan club...not! He will be one and done, as long as there are more taxpayers voting than parasites. I know which camp most of the posters in this thread are in.

NoJoes link is to an article written by a CONSERVATIVE writer, what a surprise he blames everything on Obama, same guy has another book "Do as I Say (Not as I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy", Bill O'Reilly, loved it, so that gives ya an idea as to how much truth is in it.

as long as there are more taxpayers voting,,,

We all know what you mean chas... "as long as you can push through the disfanchisement anti-voting measures Republicans are working on in several states and prevent citizens (Democrats) from casting their ballots." Why don't you say it like it is instead of wrapping it in the right-wing spin and talking points?

Be more truthful... the truth will set us free!

OWS!

President Obama for President 2012!

I think it was more that he wants to kill a whole department of government, but he just can't remember who or why. So instantly you see that these are not his ideals and are nothing more than talking points fed to him.

So even if I could not remember the name of a department I could surely tell you what it does and why I want it gone. That is if you know what you are talking about. It became obvious that Rick doesn't have a clue.

Cain's 999 plan is just a give-a-way to his rich brothers of another mother Koch brothers. Cain claims he has never offended anyone. I was very offended by the most powerful woman in congress being called Princess Pelosi. I don't know if he sexually harassed women, but I do know he has no respect for women.

I think that if Cain can pull himself out of the hole he has dug his crazy policies will get more attention. A vote for Cain is a vote for war in Iran.

Obama/Biden 2012

Nancy Pelosi literally grew up in government and politics, by the time she was 15 she already knew more about government and politics than Cain will ever know.

Not only was she the most powerful woman in congress, she also held the highest office a woman has held yet in the US. To demean her by her sex, rather than policy is truly offensive to anyone that believes in equal rights.

Tom - What baffles me most about these people is they all want to get rid of government, yet they want to head it - sorry does not equate If we have no government, what would you be President of?

K Street - now I got it!!

You can believe all you want, but he is going no-where in the middle of the right wing Gestapo Republican Party!

Romney will get in long before Huntsman would, Although I think Huntsman is not quite the flip flopper Romney is. I don't think Romney is sure which party is in yet.

But in any case, all the Republicans are basically on the same page..... cut, cut, cut, that is the big three and for wall street and corporations... cut, cut more taxes..... After you lay half of America off... no jobs, no welfare, no Social Security, no unemployment insurance...... who is going to pay for the cuts to the top 1%? No one will have any money except the top 1%.. factories and business will close up because no one is buying anything. You people really need to wake up and see what you are voting for..

An example:

Private Sector

And we think private enterprise is the solution to our Social Security and Medicare?

Yesterday - Jefferson County, Alabama filed bankruptcy - and became the latest victim of the high crimes on Wall Street. The decision made by Jefferson county to file bankruptcy represents the largest-ever municipal bankruptcy in American history. In a twisted scheme of corruption and financial manipulation - mega banks JP Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs allegedly paid off elected officials to invest in junk bonds to help finance a new sewer system.

But when the junk investments went bust - so too did Jefferson County - running out of money. Meanwhile - the mega banks were unscathed - making enormous profits off of fees. From ripping off customers with fine print and overdraft charges - to swindling an entire county - it's all in a day's work for the banksters on Wall Street.

That's why all need to get out there and OCCUPY SOMETHING!

Tom-4181228

I cant let this one slide,

Jefferson County went bankrupt because of a scandal over bringing the county sewer system up to new federal standards, way too much corruption.

This has been going on for a couple of years now, the people in government (mostly democrats) are in jail,

This is how the Republicans took over Alabama in a landslide directly caused by Democrat corruption.

Before you spout this crap you had better research your facts.

Just for good measure,

Here is the proof....

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Looks like Newsvine doesn't like links or posted urls so lets try this again...

wbhm.org/News/2009/langfordconvicted

Just add the usual HTTP:// to the front and .html to the end

Larry D - you are probably right, but if Huntsman were to be elected - the current Republicans in Congress would treat him the same as Obama

Cure for our ills - get rid of all the Tea party delegates - bridle and saddle Mitch McConnel - actually with his deferments and lies he should have a seeing eye dog at his side - elect Republicans who will not sign Herr Grover Norquist's - road to ruin pledge - and Democrats and Republicans work for the common good and not your pocketbooks

How's that for wishful thinking?

Kind of nasty, aren't we? How about an example of the Republicans going through a similar process as now? Don't you like self reflection? Your propensity for name calling could be one of the reasons why the Republicans are in retreat! (Ohio, Mississippi) How about a discussion?

Bob..188....The same old talking points keep coming up because you and your buddy NOjo keep spouting the same lies and half truths. Consider yourself invited to go elswhere and spin them.

you and your buddy NOjo keep spouting the same lies and half truths.

Poor booby & the nut job from NJ - they do appear to be quite hungover this morning from all the venom they were swilling last night!

Honestly Feisty, they get so tiresome these one note johnnies. If they could present a decent argument for their so called points, we might get somewhere. They are not even pseudo intellectuals, there doesn't seem to be any 'there' there.

Hope you are enjoying a good weekend friend.

The posts from NJ and Bob losta#s all revolve around one theme - I HATE/DETEST OBAMA, and you posters who support him are STUPID. It never varies from that theme. Nothing debatable, nothing note worthy of reading.

Obama/Biden 2012!!!!

you are another lame programmed so-called "Soros monkey"poster.

It's ironic that Bob numbers used the word "programmed". I think he read my post yesterday, which I'll reproduce here. . . .

Does anyone but me have trouble differentiating Bob 1887910 from Bob 1805084? It's as if they're clones, programmed at the same factory, the Bob 1 Million Series. Maybe when the Bob 2 Million Series comes out they'll have rid the system of glitches. This one seems to be stuck on "Leftists are un-American."

That's nice, another Huntsman vote form a liberal; but Republicans will choose our own candidate; we dont care what leftists want; stick with your failed President, thanks.

Well Bob as much as you don't care to hear it OUwhine makes a valid point, people are rejecting the extreme views of the republican candidates you can ignore the results in Ohio, you can ignore OWS, that is your choice, but the elctorate is tired of being ignored and insulted by republican leadership, it only sells to an ever shrinking republican base. The republicans who turned on republican policies in Ohio and joined with independents and democrats to kill that agenda do you really think they are going to now vote for a candidate that is just proposing more of the same, they are with us now. The truth is that republicans best chance in the general is a more moderate candidate.

but Republicans will choose our own candidate;

True Bob -- the teatards get to pick which candidate Obama will beat.

Well, Bob this moderate is waiting to see which "failed" candidate your teabaggers will nominate.

JRS-619990

Are you serious about Cain??? Let's say this does blow over as you say.... I think this blue light light special is a red light special. Forget about the women, although I think he should be behind bars! But in any case. He knows NOTHING about government or foreign policy... Of course he did say he would run it like a business... that brings back to mind one other person that said that......little bush!! He done such a fine job.....

Cain, he said he would deal with terrorist... later same day he said he misspoke and he would not deal with terrorist! Asking about nuclear power and he said he was worried about China developing nuclear power!!!!!! His 9-9-9 will work for every one... those that said it won't need to do the math. Couple days later he said well ok, so we will have a 9-0-9. This guy is nothing more than a puppet for koch brothers.

Don't forget, Tom, the demi-god of supply-side economics (even though he actually recognized demand as the prime driver of any economy), Adam Smith, thought that a businessman should never be in charge of government, or making regulations. He said that any regulation propsed by a businessman should be ". . . long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the publick, who have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the publick, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it . . ." ('The Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations', Book 1, Chapter 11, Part 2).

You can see just where letting industry lobbyists write the legislation has gotten us.

Personally, I like the Richard Pryor Approach...

Vote: None of the above.

I thought I might too, but his support of Ryans plan for ss and mc scares me. Maybe it is just because of the turbulence in the market, but I still trust the government over WS as my retirement safety net. I am guessing this is why he never says a whole lot on the issue of entitlement or health care reform.

Why would you vote for Huntsman when he has been in the race for a year and only 1% of the repulbican'ts support him? His belonging to the Mormon religious cult will prevent him or Romney from ever winning!

I don't think his belonging to the Mormon faith will hurt him. I think most of America is evolved enough so this is not an issue. He isn't a polygamist.

The problem is that the Mormon faith isn't a faith, but a cult!

No, clwyd-2621393, the problem is your thinking. Freedom of, and freedom from* religion are two founding principles of this country. Neither Romney, nor Huntsman's faith should be an issue. The only thing that sold matter to any true US Citizen voter is the candidate's policy positions. I couldn't care less, if they were devil worshippers, it is their positions on policy that I disagree with.

*If you actually read history, you will know that this is definitely a principle the Founding Fathers wanted to be guaranteed in this country, no matter what Faux Noise, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich, etc., tell you.

clwyd.....all religions are cults. What I don't want is any candidate imposing their religion on the rest of us. Choice of religious beliefs is a personal matter.

When your cult tells you that if you do everything right for the "Temple" you could become a God in the afterlife? Do you know what some of the things are that a Mormon is supposed to do? It is a cult and would interfere with governing!

Jim in Texas - actually at the begining of each Congress - the Senate can choose to change the 60 vote criteria - what they cannot change are the inordinate amount of fillibusters - that has been the scourge - of these dealings

Hutsman? maybe he needs a sweater to go along with his ivy league look. that ought to do it. Heck, maybe we just get a much ado about nothing candidate and try david letterman. That ought to work.

jolly joker - now you attack Huntsman's sweaters? By god you are really a deep thinker - by the way what kind of shoes does he wear? I see if he had cow manure on his boots and coveralls he would be one of yours, sorry ain't gonna happen - wait maybe you don't like his haircut - oh wait maybe his fingernails aren't dirty enough - and let's throw a little grease on his face. Who are you? Don't answer that I already know a person running for the highest office in this country - you want to have a beer with - worked out really well with the last one - faking clearing his empty cowless fields