Clyburn criticizes Cain for 'Princess Nancy' comment

Appearing on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports" this afternoon, Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) had some choice words for GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain.

Clyburn said that Cain's remark at last night's Republican debate -- referring to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi as "Princess Nancy" -- was not only disrespectful, but ill-timed, given the recent sexual-harassment allegations against Cain.

"He ought to be very, very careful how he reacts to or treats women going forward, and that was a disrespectful comment about one of the outstanding women in our great country," Clyburn told NBC's Andrea Mitchell.

Clyburn went on to praise Pelosi’s work in Congress and dismissed Cain’s words as “unbecoming of a Southern gentleman”; Cain hails from Georgia. 

Last night, Cain said he regretted calling Pelosi "Princess Nancy."

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Mr. Cain's remark (I am not going to address the sexual harassment charges) shows his utter contempt of women. I also recall the "bless her heart" remark towards Secretary Clinton. Complete lack of respect.

  • 18 votes
#1 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:00 PM EST

I think Rep Clyburn is knit-picking here.... I would give Cain a pass on this one...

...but seriously, with a history of sexual harassment accusations against him, shouldn't he know any better? I cringed when I heard him say that yesterday; I don't think it was meant in a derogatory way as rep Clyburn is suggesting, I just think it's the way Cain talks (good ol boy)... and you would think, if you were the CEO of a corporation, you better damn well know better than to use certain phrases - especially ones that can be construed as sexist.

I worked in an engineering firm for a number of years, and we had to seat a through 30min course once a year so as to remind us of this fact, I just wonder why the CEO of a corporation hasn't kicked these old habits.. it can lead to being sued... or accusations. I just hope he does not slab Hillary Clinton's butt, as in a got-get-em moment. LOL. Now that would be funny.

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:09 PM EST

This idiot puts the 'M' in misogynist when he's not busy putting the 'V' in victim!

Bat @!$%# crazy Bachmann would make the ideal VP for him, she's had plenty of practice being submissive!

Cain/Bachmann 2012!

  • 18 votes
#1.2 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:09 PM EST

You are right, Feisty. The sad thing about the GOP is that they all seem to have the mindset that women should be seen, not heard. Their policies and views would turn the clock back for women to the middle ages. (Sorry, I get a little wound up on the women's right subject.)

  • 14 votes
#1.3 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:18 PM EST

(Sorry, I get a little wound up on the women's right subject.)

phinephancy - you will get no argument out of me - I feel the same way! ;o)

PS: Are you having red or white this evening?

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:27 PM EST

A nice pinot grigio. I fixed mahi mahi for dinner.

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:30 PM EST

I fixed mahi mahi for dinner.

Sounds yummy!

We're having some of my legendary chili! ;o)

It snowed here today - there was no way I was going to head to the grill... lol

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:43 PM EST

Doing chili tomorrow. It is going to cold here (sorry, I think 60 is cold). Hubby has some homemade Irish Stout beer that will perfect with it.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:47 PM EST

Lasagne w/a fruity sangria.

Republicans! Cain needs your money. Please keep donating to this Koch brother from another mother. Help him reach $10 million and then on to $20 million. Cain/Perry 2012. "I am America! One voice. United . . . "

Yes I've been singing since Tuesday night!

  • 7 votes
#1.8 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:59 PM EST

Tunde Akins:

I think Rep Clyburn is knit-picking here.... I would give Cain a pass on this one...

Not on your life. That was NO accident, and was not worthy of a "pass." Tell me what Herman Cain has ever done to earn one.

Cain's disrespect for women comes through in every word he says, the tone of his voice, and his body language.

  • 10 votes
#1.9 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:56 PM EST

Tunde Akins:

I just think it's the way Cain talks (good ol boy)

And "good old boy" is exactly why he doesn't get a pass. You either, if that's how you think.

Seriously.

  • 7 votes
#1.10 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:58 PM EST

Oh no! You mean all these years I have been calling my daughter-in-law and granddaughters "princesses" I have been sexually harassing them??? And I am a heterosexual female. Oh, the guilt I am feeling. Actually, Princess Pelosi is quite a nice thing to call her considering what most of the citizenry think about her :)

Only in the Progressive world would "Bless her heart" be considered demeaning. You Progressives are flipping nuts! I have seen the worst vitriol coming out of Progressive/Democrats/liberal mouths (or hands typing) than I have seen anywhere, ever.

    #1.11 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:11 PM EST

    And I am a heterosexual female. Oh, the guilt I am feeling. Actually, Princess Pelosi is quite a nice thing to call her considering what most of the citizenry think about her :)

    If only he had meant it nicely.

    By the way, I don't like her much myself.

    But have you ever heard anyone call John Boehner "prince"? Got any idea why not?

    Are you really as clueless as you sound?

    • 9 votes
    #1.12 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:15 PM EST

    Oh, la de dahhh. You liberals are way too much. I'll be the bad guy here... she's Princess Pelosi. The liberal darling. The beloved fairy dust democrat that has a plastic face.

    This PC crap has gone too far. You do realize that pushing this PC crap limits your speech and that's exactly what liberals want... limited speech. You can't say anything about anyone because they might be offended. Scratch that... Anyone not a liberal can't say anything about anyone else or they are an assortment of names... and the liberals can freely call anyone a name just because a liberal says so.

    Excuse me while I go outside and YAK.

    • 2 votes
    #1.13 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:20 PM EST

    Getting wound up over the subject of women's rights? When President Obama walks through the chamber for the State of the Union, or through the crowd at a speech, he shakes hands with the men and kisses the women. Any one else find that demeaning and inappropriate?

    • 1 vote
    #1.14 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:03 PM EST

    Well the good news is that Cain is not losing the support of republican primary voters, he is giving Romney a run for his money, but Romney is the republican candidate that polls the most competitively in a head to head match-up with Obama, Cain is now polling double digits behind Obama in a head to head match-up. Stay in it to win it Hermann, because if you win it from Romney, you lose it big time to Obama.

    • 5 votes
    #1.15 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:47 PM EST

    Well you miss the point Brian it is called PC because that is exactly what it is politics, you are trying to win people over, politicians are better off kissing babies, that just works better than telling some mother her baby is too ugly to kiss. No matter what his position is on issues, people just have a hell of a hard time voting for someone they just don't like as a person. Nobody understood that any better than the amiable dunce, Ronald Reagen.

    • 6 votes
    #1.16 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:57 PM EST

    Herman Cain has no respect for women, and neither do other right-wing hacks like Rush Limbaugh, likewise Shock Jocks like Howard Stern, and even conservative women from Ann Coulter to Michele Bachmann. Here we are in the 21st century and we still have to listen to this degradation and attacks on women's rights. Enough.

    • 8 votes
    #1.17 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:59 PM EST

    @ Brian b,

    Mr. Cain, in the midst of a debate, threw out the adjective"princess" to describe his take on the Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic majority in Congress at that time.

    It has nothing to do with political correctness. It was a adjective to demean the woman who had the most powerful position ever in the history of the House of Representatives.

    Mr. Cain worked his way up to senior management at Pillsbury Co. It makes me wonder how he described the women who were collegues or bosses that he disagreed with.

    He did retract using that adjective after the debate... but too late, Mr. Cain.

    Brian, adding the phase"plastic face" is beneath you. but if you want to continue:how would you describe the face of the former Speaker of the House who was on the stage last night, Mr. Gingrich?

    • 5 votes
    #1.18 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:05 AM EST

    Anna Molly,

    And "good old boy" is exactly why he doesn't get a pass. You either, if that's how you think.

    Seriously.

    I've always been 99.9999% in agreement with most of what you've said.... but here I find myself disagreeing with you on this particular topic... I completely decry Cain calling Pelosi "Princess"...and giving him a pass for being a "good ol boy" does not mean I gave a him a pass for being an idiot who lacks manners and proper etiquette. Being a "good ol boy" is enough of a problem by itself that I'm not too concerned about Cain's vernacular - I've come to expect that he will sometimes be crude along with most southern GOP politicians... My thoughts were that this is not that much important of a story for Rep Clyburn to be digging himself into... I used the term knit-picking because I think Clyburn is being overly sensitive to Cain's language - I think it was a poor choice of word and we needed to just move on.

    For instance, he came out an apologized today, did it make anyone feel better? probably not.. is he still a good ol boy? damn straight? will he still have the wrong language ingrained is his verbiage, probably for the rest of his life. Rep Clyburn is just too big a person in the congress to be getting involved in little things like this... he should have just let the media do what the media does.

    • 1 vote
    #1.19 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:27 AM EST

    Coming from Clyburn who has to be one of the stupidist blacks in Congress and who's wife declared poverty so she could get a public defender in her legal case, this guy is typical of the dumb hypocritical mass of Left Wing idiots that present here, be careful what you wish for, the Soviet model is closer than ou think and not by your choice, due to Obummers profligacy and the out of control spending, the currency is going to crash, stocks will be worthless and houses will be worthless, yjen we can all live in poverty, not just the wretched 99%! Mr? I'm taking up farming!

    • 1 vote
    #1.20 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:18 AM EST

    At least Herman did not use the four letter word that I usually use! Most women really hate that word, unless you are messing with it of course, good for Cain, it's about time someone called that hypocritical old Bi^*c what she really is, having to have her own Air Force plane, that's what I dont get about you liberals, you decry the rich and envy them but you deperately want al the trappings associated with wealth but on the taxpayers dime, just like the Obummers acting like Jed Clempett but on our dime, Michelle has spent more than 200 million dollars on vacations alone abnd it's our money!!! Any clown can spend or waste someone else's money!

    • 1 vote
    #1.21 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:24 AM EST

    At least Herman did not use the four letter word that I usually use! Most women really hate that word, unless you are messing with it of course, good for Cain, it's about time someone called that hypocritical old Bi^*c

    That is one sick comment. Crawl back under whatever rock you emerged from.

    • 5 votes
    #1.22 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:23 AM EST

    [He did retract using that adjective after the debate... but too late, Mr. Cain.]

    Cain's "apology" was a half-assed attempt to placate the media "so you all could stop asking [me] about it, okay?"

    Here's the exchange between Hermie and a reporter:

    CAIN: I apologize for calling her Princess Pelosi. If that’s the biggest story you all want, okay, I apologize. I apologize for calling her Princess Pelosi. I didn’t see anybody, you know, I remember when Speaker Pelosi called me and the tea party people AstroTurf. I don’t remember anybody asking about that story.

    REPORTER: Why do you apologize? Is it insensitive to call her that?

    CAIN: So you all could stop asking me about it, okay?

    • 3 votes
    #1.23 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:39 AM EST

    Keith Wishful:

    At least Herman did not use the four letter word that I usually use!

    No wonder you're wishful. Desperate, more like it.

    Clueless, without a doubt.

    Tunde Akins:

    For instance, he came out an apologized today, did it make anyone feel better? probably not.

    No. You know he didn't mean it. Good old boy AND hypocrite.

    Your defending him makes me sad.

    • 3 votes
    #1.24 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:15 AM EST

    @Candice,

    Would you prefer he kissed the men and shaked hands with the women? I'd prefer a peck on the cheek if he was my CIC. A handshake is too formal for me. But that's just me. To each his own, I guess.

    • 1 vote
    #1.25 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:15 AM EST
    Reply

    Mr Clyburn called the Tea Party "racists".

    Mr. Clyburn blamed conservatives for the shooting of Gabby Giffords.

    He gets the liberal media "free pass" on disrespectful comments.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#2 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:20 PM EST

    Since both comments Mr. Clyburn made are factual, what's your point? That we can trust Mr. Clyburn? Yes we know we can. The liberal media suspends people for disrespectful comments. Only Fox News loves making disrespectful comments. And if those people working at Fox News are willing to break the law to get a great story? They'll be promoted and given a wonderful future with Murdoch's Mafia empire. That's not my opinion. That is factual also.

    • 9 votes
    #2.1 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:25 PM EST

    I take it Bob, that it is perfectly alright with you to be disrespectful to women. Sad one had to give birth to you.

    • 9 votes
    #2.2 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:33 PM EST

    Sad one had to give birth to you.

    I'm under the impression booby was hatched rather than being 'birthed'! ;o)

    • 8 votes
    #2.3 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:41 PM EST

    So, "Bob"...maybe you can explain why Clyburn's statements you highlighted above are disrespectful?

    [Mr Clyburn called the Tea Party "racists".]

    You've seen the pictures of the Obama as Hitler images, as well as the other racially charged signs at some of those Tea Party rallys, have you not?

    I'm sure there are many First Read forum users here that can show you a few if you conveniently "can't find any". And remember...NOBODY from the Tea Party bothered to refudiate* these comments or actions, while some seemed to even condone the behavior.

    [Mr. Clyburn blamed conservatives for the shooting of Gabby Giffords.]

    "Bob", you are simply a liar on this one...Clyburn blamed "conservative rhetoric" for Giffords shooting. And if you refuse to acknowledge the connection between Sharron Angle's Second Amendment remedies, and Sarah Palin's infamous "bulls eye" page from her very own website, your problems are much bigger than playing the role of "ointment fly".

    So, "Bob"...in your defense, explain why Mr. Clyburn's comments are "disrespectful".

    (* "Refudiate" compliments of the dim bulb, Sarah "Qwitter" Palin)

    • 13 votes
    #2.4 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:46 PM EST

    with everything we have seen this week from Election Day to the congressman screaming at his own constituants to the debate, it looks like the 't' party is over

    • 4 votes
    #2.5 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:19 PM EST

    Rep Jim Clyburn is one of our national treasures. He was quite upset with Mr Cain for the disrespect he showed towards former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who as he said, has earned and worked hard to eventually be Speaker of the House. One may disagree with her policies, and not particularly like her because she is a Democrat, it still does not excuse rudeness and disrespect. As Mr Clyburn said to day, a Southern gentleman does not do some thing like that.

    And while he didn't say so, I suspect Mr Clyburn was rather embarrassed by Mr Cain's behavior.

    • 7 votes
    #2.6 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:40 PM EST

    LOL! Since AnnaBanana doesn't "get the point" already.........time would be wasted on trying to explain it.

    • 1 vote
    #2.7 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:13 PM EST

    Cain and other republican candidates have the political problem of having to come up with cute remarks directed at democrats to throw a little red meat to the people they need to vote for them in the republicans primaries, however at the same time they run the risk of insulting many of the people that they will need to vote for them later to win in the general election. You can complain all you want about PC, but Cain comes off as an ass to a great deal of people who he should want to convince that he is presidential material, to me and many others he clearly is not, and whether anybody else likes him or not does not matter, he has to personally convince voters of that now, because if they make up their minds now, he probably won't be able to change them a year from now. One more thing, if I was going to give Hermann Cain some political advice I would tell him to lose the pimp hat, in light of all his current political woes regarding his attitudes and dealings with women it's not helping.

    • 5 votes
    #2.8 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:39 PM EST
    Reply

    Well its better than skellator ....lol

      Reply#3 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:41 PM EST

      Uncle Herman is one of those old creepy guys..he reminds me of Romney .A social misfit !

      • 5 votes
      Reply#4 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:49 PM EST

      get over all the PC bull it was a joke ...relax

      • 1 vote
      Reply#5 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:51 PM EST

      I will be interested in next weeks poll numbers for Mr. Cain. I wonder if they will break down what his approval rating is among women?

      • 3 votes
      Reply#6 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:53 PM EST

      One creepy guy and none too bright to make such commentary about Speaker Pelosi. For a candidate that has never held any public office, let alone his indictment by four women, he's ill-prepared to handle any office, dog catcher included.

      • 9 votes
      Reply#7 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:00 PM EST

      again, Hermie's handling of the situation is what will be his undoing. he just doesn't get it and probably never will. being POTUS is so much more than policy and it has become obvious that this guy will never be "Presidential".

      • 7 votes
      Reply#8 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:03 PM EST

      What's concerning me the most in watching the debates, are the people in the audience! Good Lord! They cheer for executions, cheer for an electric fence that kills, Boo a gay soldier, and Boo a newscaster for asking Cain about the sexual misconduct he's been solidly accused of... And that's just a few...

      Who are these people? I hope to hell they don't live next door... It's frightening... And, they want "their" country back? Where did they come from???

      • 10 votes
      Reply#9 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:07 PM EST

      LYN,KCMO. i believe you got it exactly right, this extreme right is a bunch of loose nuts, they scare a lot people

      • 6 votes
      #9.1 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:10 PM EST

      No, Lyn, KCMO, what is really scary is the fact that you believe whatever you hear and read that the liberal media wishes. I can tell you two right off the bat...........the audience DID NOT boo a gay soldier - that was a twisted lie by the liberal media. Listen to the complete clip yourself - don't be lazy. The audience also did not cheer the "letting the 30 year old man with no insurance die". Again, listen to the clip. Try thinking for yourself and get your head out of the lying mainstream media.

      And that goes for glory castle.......and the rest of you lazy progressives that can't do your own research. I wish you guys would start your own country - in a land far, far away - where you can just live in your la la world.

      • 1 vote
      #9.2 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:22 PM EST

      OMG, michigan patsy,...you are completely full of crap

      I have listened to the Let Him Die clip at least a dozen times and SEVERAL members in the audience whooped and yelled YEAH,...

      By any chance are you part of the team rewriting the history books in Texas? Because, that's exactly the stunt you appear to be pulling. Just DOWNRIGHT trolltastic of you.

      • 8 votes
      #9.3 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:36 PM EST

      Lyn,

      The repubs couldn't find an audience to fill their halls so they brought over the audience from the Jerry Springer show.

      • 1 vote
      #9.4 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:20 AM EST
      Reply

      It seems that every time ol' Hermie opens his pie hole he puts his foot right into it. And he want's to be the leader of the free world? Good grief!!!

      • 5 votes
      Reply#10 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:15 PM EST

      Cain hasn't won the presidency. The real issue is jobs in America. The real issue is fixing the housing bubble. The real issue is providing health care for every American with efficiency and effectiveness. The real issue is protecting Americans from money greedy Big Banks. Cain's reference to Nancy Pelosi signals his disdain for women in general and specifically one whom he cannot control. He backs the Terroristic Evangelical Agnostics(TEA) party who have pressed numerous abortion-limiting bills through state houses and tried to do the same in the House. "Personhood" and abortion limitation issues pushed forward signals their contempt for women. Cain openly seeks and supports the Tactical Evangelical activist(TEA) party. If the house turns in 2012, Nancy Pelosi may be back in the Speaker-ship chair.

      • 6 votes
      Reply#11 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:10 PM EST

      A few days from now he'll deny that he ever said "Princess Nancy"; straightfaced with the video of him saying it in the background. He will then discredit it because it came from the internet.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#12 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:13 PM EST

      Cain if an incredibly offensive man. I know he's owned by the Koch brothers and has made a lot of money. I just hope his fall is incredibly humiliating for the cretin.

      • 6 votes
      Reply#13 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:36 PM EST

      Herman Cain or Jerry sandusky, both the same.'' perverted''

      • 5 votes
      Reply#14 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:53 PM EST

      What phinephancy doesn't know, and shhhh, we don't want to let this get out,.......but it is the women that are behind this conservative movement, not men :)

        Reply#15 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:16 PM EST

        And we won't let anyone know that michigan patriot has the IQ of a turnip.

        • 7 votes
        #15.1 - Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:30 PM EST
        Reply

        Michiganpatriot,

        You go Girl!!! Michele Bachmann is looking for more voters like you. Be sure to vote for her in your primary...

        I am from MN and you can have her, please...

        • 4 votes
        Reply#16 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:17 AM EST

        I always heard "respect for women" but never heard of "respect for men". Sexual harassment is uncivilized but in America today, gender dominates our spiritual thinking. In some cultures, the term respect only used toward person who is much older. Other than that people treat others equally with dignity. Sometime the terms the men used to please the women can confuse them, make women thinking differently and leading to difficulties in daily life.

          Reply#17 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:01 AM EST

          Cain's numbers will be through the roof, I bet most puss^ whipped guys are thinking, yeah, way to go! The emasculation of the white American male is a well documented fact, caused by old harpies like Feisty, I would change that nick to musty! Old resentful, unfulfilled women venting their frustration. Vipermouth could best describe most of the females on this blog.

            Reply#18 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:32 AM EST

            Man up Keith, you're a woman in drag trying to pretend you're a man.

            • 3 votes
            #18.1 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:22 AM EST

            No woman, even dressed as a man could be this stupid,...well, maybe JAS, nojo and leona,...nah,...not even them.

            Keith Wishful,...your fear of emasculation wouldn't by chance lead you to defend Sandusky, would it? Yeah, those old patriarchal stereotypes are ALIVE and well.

            • 2 votes
            #18.2 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:29 AM EST
            Reply

            This bunch of clowns have a lot of nerve saying anything bad about Pres. Obama. Pres. Obama's troubles started with the GOP not giving him a chance to get anything passed and fillibustering all meaningful bills. They some day will have a lot to answer for.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#19 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:07 AM EST

            Cain is not sorry about anything. It reminds me of my kids when you would make them apologize to each other when they were little and they would say, "sorreeeee" and only said it because I made them. I would be afraid the US would get blown off the map by some other country if Cain was our leader. He continues to say stupid things and then when he is asked about them from the media whines like a little kid cuz "he's being picked on by the liberal media". Talking like this to women in other countries would not be good!!! So Mr. Cain, buck up little buckeroo, it's only just begun.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#20 - Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:39 PM EST

            "Crazy Cain" has no ideas of morality. He has no understanding of proper social behaviors, and old "Crazy Cain" is very proud of that fact. This Behavioral Disturbed individual is not capable of ever becoming President, and his connection to the Koch Brothers is just insane. That is fact!

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