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Subscribe to RSSLatino voters might be less enthusiastic about President Obama than in 2008, though they still strongly prefer him to Republican alternatives, a new poll found Wednesday.
Obama would best former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Herman Cain by wide margins among Hispanics, according to a new Univision News poll of registered Hispanic voters.
Sixty-seven percent of Latino voters would choose Obama over Romney, for whom 24 percent would vote; Obama would beat Cain, too, 65-22 percent.
And Obama would perform even better against Perry, despite the Texas governor's record in a border state with a strong Latino population. Perry has weathered criticism from GOP primary opponents as a relative liberal on immigration because of his opposition to a complete border fence and his defense of a bill he had signed granting in-state college tuition to the children of illegal immigrants. Obama would beat Perry, 68-21 percent, among Latino voters.
Moreover, those poll numbers suggest that Obama still enjoys a similar margin over Republicans as he did in 2008, when he beat Arizona Sen. John McCain 67-31 percent among Latinos, according to that year's exit polls.
The numbers suggest that another another key demographic group remains in the president's corner heading into his tough re-election battle; an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released earlier this week -- which was also sponsored by theGrio -- found that African American voters prefer Obama, by even wider margins.
But the big battle for the president's campaign might be in turning out Hispanic voters, especially in swing-states like Florida, Nevada, New Mexico and Arizona -- among others.
Forty-seven percent of Hispanic voters told Univision they were more enthusiastic about voting in 2008 versus 2012; 32 percent said they are more excited about voting, compared to 17 percent who said their level of excitement is about the same.
(Compare that to the NBC/WSJ numbers: 59 percent of African Americans said they are more enthusiastic in 2012, versus 29 percent who are less excited, at 12 percent who said they feel the same.)
Hispanic voters also admit a degree of Obama fatigue, too. Fifty-three percent said they were less excited about Obama after three years of his presidency; 29 percent of Latinos were more excited.
The Univision/Latino Decision poll was conducted Nov. 2, and has a 3.1 percent margin of error.
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With all the immigrant bashing and the "deport them all" talk coming from the Teapublicans, its a wonder any Latino votes GOP. Is the reason that Perry is dead in the polls is his reasonable stand on immigration? Perry sure is whacky enough to be a true blue bagger and more credible than the bagger flavor of the moment, Cain.
Al is right.
Just wait, sometime next summer the GOP will start going with its "Southern Strategy" in full force.
Last time it was "terrorists anchor babies," and, "Ground Zero Mosque," and "The New Black Panther Party."
I don't know exactly what nonsensical attack it will be this time, but I know it is coming some time next summer. The GOP will get xenophobic and nasty, that is who they are.
Please note that simply being turned away at the border by an Immigration official
is counted & recorded as....
"a deportation."
@Backhouse
WRONG.
First of all, illegals typically do not walk up to an immigration official to be "turned away".
On September 28, 2011 President Obama said, "...what we’ve been doing is with the stronger border enforcement we’ve been apprehending folks at the borders and sending them back. That is counted as a deportation, even though they may have only been held for a day or 48 hours, sent back — that’s counted as a deportation."
Held a day or 48 hours after being apprehended. That means they crossed the border and were caught in the desert or somewhere else by Border Patrol. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? Why shouldn't that count as a deportation? Would you rather have the illegals move in and settle down for a couple years, before being deported?
The Border Patrol is doing exactly what it should - making fast arrests and deporting illegals immediately.
Being in the country illegaly is a crime. No party, be it Republican or Democrat can save your ass. Just save yourself and go home.
You are more likely to get a job in Mexico than here in the US.
Americans are on the edge, they are pissed, we have retards for high offices, Banks are rippin us left and right, Repubs and Democrats are not seeing eye to eye, gas and food prices are so high, people are having to debate which is more important, kids are going to school hungry, hospitals are stretched thin with illegal babies being born every freakin 15 minutes somewhere in the country, Wall Street is sneering at us, Republicans are killing the middle class; if I was you Jose, i'd just pack and go.
You dont wanna piss off a pissed off American, it could get ugly....
Al in Visalia CA
"With all the immigrant bashing and the "deport them all" talk coming from the Teapublicans"
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Al, your posts are racist in nature and un-American.
nisl
"The GOP will get xenophobic and nasty, that is who they are."
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talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
Americans of Hispanic origin and green card holders by and large despise illegals because of the pain it causes them. That group also tends to be more conservative than they perceive Democrats to be.
yes you r so right i despise my grandmother and great uncle who came here illegally....what gumption of them. just imagine i could be making 1 dollar an hr in mex if they had stayed....they ruined my life.
Listen, your family fled countries that were run exactly the way Obama is trying to run this one!
He does not deserve one Hispanic vote!
Re-Elect O,
A very short time and then turned away is classified as a 'deportation'. Heard it on C-Span on a Home Security info discussion.
I agree that this Administration has the best-ever border protection with 2 or 3 times the personnel, equipment, checks, etc. They have exceeded the requests made by GOP a couple of times - that were meant to be in exchange for new Immigration legislation.
Deportation data in part reflect the mechanism described above.
President Obama 2012
Doc, the trouble is that neither party are doing anything about it. In fact they are both encouraging more of the same. Did you see the article on the guy that has over 50 people using his SS#, yet he will not get extra from the government when it is time to collect Social Security, and his credit rating is just fine? That tells me that the banksters and their government are well aware of how to take care of the problem, yet they chose not to.
#OWS is not just for the "radical hippies" or "liberals" it is for all of us to have a voice in our government. That is the only point they are trying to make.
Wake up, I don't think my posts are racist at all. Upon further reflection though, I do think through my characterization of Republicans in general and the Tea Party in particular, I may have unfairly slammed those with learning disorders. If you are among those with learning disorders, please accept my apologies.
As for calling me "un-American," I just take that as righttard speak meaning you have nothing to say that will refute anything I posted.
Al,
What a small mind you have. Would you like to use any other disability to insult someone? How about some ethnic slurs to make your point? Righttard. What a vocabulary you have. On behalf of my learning disabled daughter, I say shove your apology where the sun won't shine.
Al, which GOP candidates talked about deporting all immigrants? Let me give you a clue: Not one of them. Neither has any members of the republican party. You might want to learn to read and listen better. Perhaps you are a product of our public schools. The only talk from the GOP has been regarding ILLEGAL immigrants. A big difference. But, if you don't know the difference, then you deserve what you get.
Many Latinos were rather disappointed when Obama started doing the enforcement which the GOP said it would require before the GOP would agree to any immigration reforms.
So now Obama has been meeting the yearly 400,000 targets and the GOP now backs out of its promise and refuses to take up immigration reform.
Latinos, as much as we are disappointed by all the enforcement by Obama we cannot let the GOP get back in charge of the government.
We must help to re-elect President Obama and put more Democrats into the Congress.
That is the only way that the government will be able to take up immigration reform.
76: Nice try, but making up facts won't make your case. Do you really believe that the GOP said "(whatever) 4000 targets" and the GOP will agree to reform immigration laws? Don't think so. Think those who came here legally are thrilled by those who come here illegally? Don't think so.
From the poll:
"But taken as a whole, Latinos are not as torn about the president as the rest of the country: 66 percent of Latinos approve of the job Obama has done, while only 29 percent disapprove. Nationwide, 50 percent of Americans disapprove of the job the president is doing, while 48 percent approve.
Making matters worse for Obama on the national front, the opposition is intense: of the 50 percent who disapprove of his work in the White House, 37 percent disapprove strongly, while the remaining 13 percent only disapprove somewhat. And his approval rating among Latinos appears softer than the top line number, only 30 percent strongly approve of the president’s job performance."
Why does the media feel the need to search for supporters of Obama? Why can't they just admit that he failed the nation and will therefore be removed in 2012?
They are setting themselves up to look more foolish and clueless than they did after the 2010 midterms.
It is not surprising that Obama is doing well with Hispanics and Blacks surveyed, but I am not so sure that will result in votes in a year. Nothing measured now matters. as in 2010, when people vote, they will pick candidates who they think are most likely to act in their interest.
My guess is that Obama is going to lose, and it probably won't be that close. And I wouldn't be surprised to see Newt as the Presidential candidate, as he is the smartest guy in the room - any room. Should Obama be forced to debate Newt, I think all those smart liberals are going to be really disappointed.
But as we know, it is way to early to know who is going to catch fire, and what is going to happen in the economy. About the only chance Obama has is if we see a major economic shift in the next 6-9 months, or the Republicans nominate Gov Perry. He was a HOOT tonight, really, a hoot.
Al...."With all the immigrant bashing and the "deport them all" talk coming from the Teapublicans,"
Aaahhh...another attempt to confuse immigrants (legal), with illegal aliens. Take heart that you might be able to bait the extremely shallow minded.
Mr. Guzman..."yes you r so right i despise my grandmother and great uncle who came here illegally"
You shouldn't despise your grandmother or uncle for trying to make a better life for themselves. But should you hold them in honor for doing so by violating another countries laws? Whether you do or not is a reflection on nothing but your character.
I was surprised this article was there, but it added the part about still liking them over Republicans. I think it shows that the Latinos have figured out the Democrats, that they are using them to get votes and keep power, nothing more. I'm still surprised that the left wing NBC posted this article. It's nothing more than a propaganda machine anymore, they don't report news, they make it up to fit their agenda.
Sober up, Doc.
BABIES are not illegal. You must be one sick puppy to claim that they are. Talk about child abuse!
It's the xenopathic haters who are unAmerican, not the defenders of the downtrodden, the upholders of the Constitution, or those who believe that "all men are created equal" and "endowed by their Creator" with "unalienable rights".
Immoral and bigoted GOP political hacks have made it a crime to enter the county if you are from Latin America, the Philipines, or Catholic. (Sure, a SOME are allowed in, but no more than HALF the number that our economy demands.) Now Obama is oging along with it, making being Latino a crime, making brown skin or an accent a jailable offense (in Alabama and Arizona, anyway) unitl you can 'prove' you are American.
The talking points against unauthorized immigrants are manufactured almost exclusively in organizations that were founded by slimeballs who admire the Nazi "genetic" policies and want the same for the United States. The GOP goes along with it, having been swayed by the argument crafted by Nazi-sympathizers John Tanton and Roy Beck that immigrants vote 60/40 Democratic.
Shameful, unAmerican, and a direct contravention of the principles upon which the Republican Party was founded. Abraham Lincoln would be deeply ashamed of his own party these days.
The "NEW" American way......seems to be lie, cheat, steal......whatever it takes to get inside the US borders. And once there take what ever you can get at US taxpayers exense.
What's the matter....hispanic voters can't remember that the president told them that "comprehensive immigration reform" would be one of the very first issues he would get taken care of right after he got to the White House...with a laserbeam-like focus !!!
He's very good at saying things...with steel in his voice and fire burning in his belly. But he does say a lot of things that are really nothing more than a bunch of words.
Before he gives his next campaign speech to potential hispanic voters, he needs to learn the Spanish language translation for "stop complainin'...stop grumblin'...stop whinin' "...just like he said to black voters when he set them straight at one of an endless and monotonous string of campaign rallies.
It is a gaurantee hispanics will help the majority of americans re-elect our president. The GOP leadership is completely clouding the definition of conservative to a point of complete phony-ness. Criminal.
Olrock...
Yes...the president will be re-elected if he can get enough voters into the voting booth who either do not pay federal taxes or are unable to correctly spell his name.
He won the last election by dominating the hispanic vote...the black vote...and the kiddie vote. But all the pomp and pageantry that followed him in 2008 has flattened out, so he's going to have to dig a little deeper into the voting bloc mire this time.
The vast majority of Latino voters are simply working class people who have the same concerns as other working class or middle class people, regardless of race or ethnicity. They vote for Democrats because the Democrats support the issues that are important to them.
Most legal Hispanics are compassionate, God loving people. Most would like to see the illegals to obtain citizenship the proper way but they are opposed to attitude and tone that many show when speaking ill of the plight of the immigrant worker.
And what concerns are those Re-Elect? Please tell me..is it the other headline on MSNBC that reads "Borrowing costs push Italy to the brink"?
President Obama is looking for reasonable solutions to immigration problems. The Republicans, as usual, just want to do extreme measures, such as the laws in Alabama and Arizona. Those kind of measures only bring massive migrations of workers to the other US States. The illegals do not go back to their country of origin.
This is a problem that needs to be carefully managed. Ask all the farmers in Alabama if the American citizens that are "unemployed" are rushing to pick the crops!
Said it once before.
The only thing worse than the Obama Agenda is the NeoCon agenda
@JFK2112,
Jobs, safe working conditions, fair pay, dependable retirement, good schools, healthcare, affordable housing.
The good ol' middle class American Dream.
@irespond
The Republicans just want to do extreme measures? What would those be.... enforcing the laws on the books by chance?
Dear lord, when did enforcing our existing laws come under extreme measures!
Implement a seasonal work program for workers only (no family) with employers covering health care, and kick all of the illegals out so that they can apply for the work legally.
@AlexM-2364525
We tried this in the 40s, it was called the Bracero program. If failed because the government set quotas on how many Mexicans could participated and mandated cost-of living standards that the agriculture industry didn't want to pay. It actually encouraged illegals to come and work "under the table", which ultimately led to the rise of the UFW to protect wages for American hispanics from the downward pressure from the illegals and business.
Try again.
Re-Elect, and how do you propose we pay for all this, by paying 80% of our income to Federal Taxes?
@Re-Elect
So you're ok with the status quo of our ERs being abused and raising health care costs, anchor babies allowing the abuse of the welfare system, different cultures committing crimes that they don't know are crimes in our country, our penal system buckling under the added pressure of illegals, traffic accidents, drunk driving, immigrant abuse by employers, lost taxes, stolen identities, the education system spending money it shouldn't have to which is taken away from citizens, the list goes on and on.
Maybe the government shouldn't set the quotas, but it's a workable solution to get the needed labor and have it done legally.
Also, stop classifying illegals as hispanics. Just because they are the majority doesn't mean it's all them. There illegals of all races and cultures in our country.
Dennis, Columbus, Ohio
Most legal Hispanics are compassionate, God loving people. Most would like to see the illegals to obtain citizenship the proper way but they are opposed to attitude and tone that many show when speaking ill of the plight of the immigrant worker.
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I wondered what they were thinking when they were climbing that fence.
@JFK2112 and AlexM-2364525
You are both equating Latino US citizen voters with illegal immigrants from Mexico.
Americans achieve the American Dream through hard work and careful planning.
@AlexM-2364525
I did not classify illegals as hispanics in any of my posts. Read carefully, it helps if you go slow.
I did say, "...ultimately led to the rise of the UFW to protect wages for American hispanics from the downward pressure from the illegals and business." This is a factually correct statement.
I am amused by your effort to play the, "by illegals I mean everybody and if you say hispanic you're a liberal racist" card. Just for the record, I'm glad to hear that you support checking IDs of random white people on the suspicion that they might be illegal Canadian immigrants.
Alex, the problem here is not illegals, it is greed. If companies paid American workers what the labor is worth, Americans would be picking the oranges and lettuce, not sitting around collecting unemployment complaining about Mexicans stealing their jobs. Americans would mopping the blood stained floors in meat packing factories while breathing in the fumes of rotting flesh of carcasses. If you have a problem with the way things work in this country, you need only look into the policies passed in Washington that support deregulation...
Deregulation allows companies to hire illegal workers; it's simple, illegals are willing to take these positions at a lower wage, Americans, for the most part are not! The problem is politicians want to get rid of regulations so that corporations do not have to pay people what they're worth so that they can accumulate as much wealth as they can without having to invest said wealth back into the people that helped them attain their wealth.
Furthermore, corporations and Washington want Americans NOT illegals to do miserable low paying work and not organize to fight for fair wages. How is this fair? Who benefits? I think it's time that we look beyond the rhetoric. I think we all need to do some investigative work and dig deep till we find the root of the problem and which party is behind it don't you?!
Wake up,
Can’t you read???????
I said LEGAL Hispanics … not all came here illegally before applying for citizenship.
Your description fits everyone except our great American Indians.
Exactly...like the dream act, free food, housing, medical, schooling and on and on...there will be more illegals voting for Obama than legal immigrants this election with his help...bet on it.
hey wakeup
they were thinking....lucky for us those gringos are lazy that means plenty more jobs picking grapes ;-0
@Re-Elect
I wasn't playing any card, I was clarifying. I have never had a problem showing my ID, and I don't know why anyone would. When I was younger and on the wrong side of life, I was often asked for my ID by cops. When I buy smokes/beer, use my credit cards, get pulled over, update my passport, apply for a job, buy a plane ticket etc, etc I get asked for my ID. I'm 41 and white, and have no problem with it. If a cop asked for my ID to check if I was legal, I'd shrug and give it to him. What's the problem?
@Susie
I completely agree. I have done the work in the fields and I've also cleaned slaughter houses (ok, for 1.5 nights, not because of pay but because I don't deal well with blood :) ). But I was also working for a Kelly Temp so while it was minimum wage, it was a legal wage.
That's why I think the reform needed isn't anmesty of any sort, they need to go home. But a work program does need to be implemented and enforced.
The Democrats want the illegals for votes, the Republicans want them for slave labor. Both are taking advantage of them, and that needs to stop. Both parties equally share the blame. I haven't seen any Democrat presidents trying to force employers to treat illegals any better than the Republican presidents.
FYI, this is why I'm an independent. Neither party is good, both are equally bad.
Dennis,
The reason he's called "Wake Up" is because that's what everyone yells at him all day long--he has come to think it's the name given to him at birth.
As to whether or not he can read, he understands what he wants to understand, not what is actually written on the page.
Thanks for the insight Jack. You've changed many lives and solved many problems. If you are from Portsmouth, N.H. than I understand your post perfectly. It has no value at all.
@AlexM-2364525
Those are all voluntary activities or privileges that are regulated by the state and in the case of a passport that is regulated by the Federal government under immigration law.
ID is not a condition of Citizenship.
I'm obviously of Hispanic descent and I didn't vote for Obama the first time nor will I vote for him the second time. I'm for less government and more personal responsibility...if the dems are so on board with supporting the issues of the "working people", how come the "working people" are in such dire circumstances? Can't leave it nor do we want to leave to the gov't to solve our problems.
Gee, Matt. I'm crushed. . . .
I travel extensively for my job. This week I am in Laredo TX working on implementing their new billing software. I am wondering how many people are aware that Mexicans with a residence in mexico cross the border daily to receive medical care in the united states. They have no insurance, so they are not required to pay for their care. So how many of you posters are okay with the fact that your tax dollars are paying for the medical care of people who DO NOT even live in this country. I know for a fact that I am NOT okay with this.
re-elect - "The vast majority of Latino voters are simply working class people who have the same concerns as other working class or middle class people, regardless of race or ethnicity."
You have got to be kidding. The middle class is looking for jobs. "Latino voters" are staying home from work to "protest" laws being enacted to prevent criminals from continuing to profit from their crimes simply because they are the SAME RACE as the criminals.
Dennis, Columbus, Ohio - thank you for your first post. As a LEGAL Hispanic (for several generations), I agree with your comment. I would say that the reason some Hispanics will more than likely sit out this election is because we (and I'm talking LEGAL) have felt the sting of random hatred toward our community and there has been no call for tolerance from the President. We pay our taxes, have strong family ties and work ethics - many are not Hispanic of Mexican decent, but the POTUS allows conversations like Hispanics having to carry papers proving they are legal. I'm not of Mexican decent, but I do feel for my Mexican brother's and sisters - we are all lumped together, legal or not. If I have to carry a piece of paper (my US Passport should suffice), then so should every American.
pjam09 - you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Since when do Hispanic's (legal) side with crime? We are not a burden on the justice system or the welfare system. Give me a real journal article for your hate bashing there. We don't all vote the same, many Hispanics are for the GOP, yet we have learned to agree to disagree because community (including all the races in it), family and education are what we pride ourselves in - we do not harbor criminals. If a factory has many Hispanic workers and is targeted for that - and the answer is they are all legal (which happens) it is disturbing. We are as American as you! - just like the African communities, we have a problem with racial profiling.
People on welfare these days are to good to pick fruit and vegetables it seems........another racist remark from an evil Republican.............LOL
Make them all legal, Obama will pay for it by borrowing a few trillion from the Chinese. Who cares if the whole boat goes under, at least once we are on par with Mexico the Mexican economy and their standard of living they will stop coming over here. I also think they should change the American language to spanish to ease the transition. It'll be great just think about how cool it would be to live in a country just like Mexico.
Alex...
Thanks ! I don't think that it's an "extreme measure" to have a secure border either...and we do not have that now. So I guess I'm one of those nasty, conservative-libertarian types...siding with those even nastier Republicans with their "extreme" ideas.
Its the ecomony stupid!
Republicans have made a bad economy worse. I remember when they took control of the House, they claimed they were saving America, but what have they done? Their job seems to be protecting the wealthiest from increased taxes - and the wealthiest already pay less than they did when our economy was booming, under Clinton.
Amy,
That has gott to be the most stupid comment. The republicans? Really, People like you, with you lies is why this county is going to the tube!! Both parties are to blame, but the last 3 years have been the worst in our lifetime. That is a fact!! Another thing, I beleive this artical is biased (Surprise, it is on this comunist MSN Website) Cubans do NOT like Obama!! He reminds them too much of Castro!!
Realhope
"Amy,
That has gott to be the most stupid comment. The republicans? Really, People like you, with you lies is why this county is going to the tube!!"
Find a copy of that chart that shows the income gap over the past seveal years, study it, then come back and tell Amy why that has to the the most stupid comment.
Amy, the republicans have controlled the house for only 10 months while the democrats controlled the whole bowl of wax in 2009 and 2010 and controlled congress (when they stopped President bush at every turn) in 2007-2008. So with that said I guess the buck stops with Harry, Nancy and obamacarter.
drivel-by,
Yea look up the GINI index.
Seems like it was flat under Bush but is going up big time under Obama.
Big bad boy over the last 30 years however was .....CLINTON!
Realhope said:
Amy,
That has gott to be the most stupid comment
This coming from someone who says Cubans hate Obama because he is too much like Castro.... and you actually say it as if it is proof of anything other than what a intellectual midget you are. No big surprise though considering the composition of your post suggests you only write at a third grade level.
I'm tired of everyone calling them "illegals", they are Mexicans. They came here as Mexicans, and they want to stay here as Mexicans; they have no intention of becoming Americans. They just want us to accommodate them as long as they choose to stay, they want all of the benefits of being an American, and they want every government service to be provided to them and their children in Spanish.
Actually, there are illegals of many nationalities in the country, they're not all Mexicans.
RealHope
First, Amy's post was far from "stupid". Take Drive By's advice and do a little research.
Second, if your post had been a bit more literate, people might take it seriously.
Don't throw names out there like "communist" unless you know what the words mean. And you clearly don't know the definition of communist.
Holy crap Re-Elect, I'm going to agree with you!
@Wake
He speaks the truth. While the hispanics are definitely the most visible around the country due to being the majority, they are not the only ones. I've been seeing this year where supposedly Indians (from India) are coming here more and more illegally.
Re-Elect Obama 2012; There are also lots of illegal Canadians that come over here, I know because they have set up a shanti town at the end of my block. I am just sick of all the illegal Canadians coming over here and taking our jobs.
I think that if Perry were nominated as the candidate, he would get more support among the Latino population than these polls would indicate. I also think I heard he has a brother-in-law who is Latino.
It's no wonder since Obama has been working amnesty from the start. They are bought and paid for voters, nothing else. Obama is completely against enforcing our immigration laws, just like all the Presidents before him. The sad part is, he doesn't give two hoots about them, it's nothing more than politics and votes to him. Just like the free-trade agreements. Have any of you party affiliated voters ever wondered why our politicians force through trade agreements, allow illegals to flood our country (at the same time not working through a good immigrant worker program so they can work here during the season legally), force through healthcare, and all these things that the majority of the country is against?
None of our politicians work for the middle/lower class. They are strictly for themselves and their top donors.
There is a name for our politicians... it's called Legion.
@Re-Elect Obama
Democrats aren't for the middle class, they are for unions and a welfare state. Democrats are bought and paid for by Soros just like Republicans are bought and paid for by the Koch bros'. Wake up and think for yourself.
"they are for unions and a welfare state."
You think? Maybe so.
Tell us, what's in it for them if unions get decent wages for their members, and what's in it for them if lots and lots of people have to live on welfare?
I have to be missing something here.
The middle class would not exist without the unions paving the way for fair labor practices. Weekends off and the 40 hour work week are just some easy examples. Would you rather work in sweatshop conditions for worse than minimum wage? What you call a welfare state is simply providing a safety net for unfortunate fellow citizens who don't become rich, so they can retire and die with a little dignity after working and paying their taxes their whole lives.
• Unions raise wages of unionized workers by roughly 20% and raise compensation, including both wages and benefits, by about 28%.
• Unions reduce wage inequality because they raise wages more for low- and middle-wage workers than for higher-wage workers, more for blue-collar than for white-collar workers, and more for workers who do not have a college degree.
• Strong unions set a pay standard that nonunion employers follow. For example, a high school graduate whose workplace is not unionized but whose industry is 25% unionized is paid 5% more than similar workers in less unionized industries.
• The impact of unions on total nonunion wages is almost as large as the impact on total union wages.
• The most sweeping advantage for unionized workers is in fringe benefits. Unionized workers are more likely than their nonunionized counterparts to receive paid leave, are approximately 18% to 28% more likely to have employer-provided health insurance, and are 23% to 54% more likely to be in employer-provided pension plans.
• Unionized workers receive more generous health benefits than nonunionized workers. They also pay 18% lower health care deductibles and a smaller share of the costs for family coverage. In retirement, unionized workers are 24% more likely to be covered by health insurance paid for by their employer.
• Unionized workers receive better pension plans. Not only are they more likely to have a guaranteed benefit in retirement, their employers contribute 28% more toward pensions.
• Unionized workers receive 26% more vacation time and 14% more total paid leave (vacations and holidays).
Soros is a retired investor who supports causes he believes in. The Koch brothers own the largest privately held oil company in the United States who seeks to manipulate US politics to favor their business interests at everyone else's expense.
In March 1999, Koch Petroleum Group pled guilty to charges that it had negligently dumped hundreds of thousands of gallons of aviation fuel into wetlands near the Mississippi River and that it had also illegally dumped a million gallons of high-ammonia waste water.
In 1999, a federal jury found that Koch Industries had stolen oil from government and American Indian lands, had lied about its purchases more than 24,000 times, and was fined $553,504.
In January 2000, a Koch Industries subsidiary, Koch Pipeline, agreed to a $35 million settlement with the U.S. for the firm's three hundred oil spills in Texas and five other states going back to 1990. The spills resulted in more than 3 million US gallons (11,000 m3) of crude oil leaking into ponds, lakes, streams and coastal waters.
In 2001, the company reached two settlements with the government. In April, the company reached a $20 million settlement in exchange for admitting to covering up environmental violations at its refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas. That May, Koch Industries paid $25 million to the federal government to settle a federal lawsuit that found the company had improperly taken more oil than it had paid for from federal and Indian land.
In June 2003, the US Commerce Department fined Koch Industries subsidiary Flint Hill Resources a $200,000 civil penalty. The fine settled charges that the company exported crude petroleum from the US to Canada without proper US government authorization. The Commerce Department’s Bureau of Industry and Security said from July 1997 to March 1999, Koch Petroleum (later called Flint Hill Resources) committed 40 violations of Export Administration Regulations.
In 2006, Koch Industries’ subsidiary Flint Hill Resources was fined nearly $16,000 by the EPA for 10 separate violations of the Clean Air Act at its Alaska oil refinery facilities, and required to spend another $60,000 on safety equipment needed to help prevent future violations.
In 2007, Koch Nitrogen's plant in Enid, Oklahoma, was listed as the third highest company releasing toxic chemicals in Oklahoma, according to the EPA, ranking behind Perma-Fix Environmental Services in Tulsa and Weyerhaeuser Co. in Valliant. The facility produces about 10% of the US national production of anhydrous ammonia, as well as urea and UAN.
In 2010, Koch Industries was ranked 10th on the list of top US corporate air polluters, the “Toxic 100 Air Polluters,” by the Political Economic Research Institute at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.
Re-
I don't care about private sector unions in right to work states, private sector unions in union states - states get what they get - just suck it up and take care of yourself.
With regard to public unions - it is immoral and corrupt, even FDR was against them.
Thanks for pointing out how privileged they are, how much better off they are compared to the people who are forced to support them.
If union workers are privileged compared to your working conditions, then you're getting screwed by your employer. You should be angry at the company that doesn't pay you decent compensation for your work and go work where your labor is appreciated
Hey, maybe you should join a union.
Also, FDR was not against public unions. He was against public unions having the right to strike because federal employees are sworn to protect the government and not disrupt its functions and activities.
"The desire of Government employees for fair and adequate pay, reasonable hours of work, safe and suitable working conditions, development of opportunities for advancement, facilities for fair and impartial consideration and review of grievances, and other objectives of a proper employee relations policy, is basically no different from that of employees in private industry. Organization on their part to present their views on such matters is both natural and logical, but meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government.
Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable. It is, therefore, with a feeling of gratification that I have noted in the constitution of the National Federation of Federal Employees the provision that “under no circumstances shall this Federation engage in or support strikes against the United States Government.”
It's all about money.
Union money to the dems.
Take that out and then you can have some credibility.
@Re-Elect Obama
Seriously man, just return Soros his money, put down the liberal mouth piece and start using your own brain instead parroting the MSM.
Unions WERE useful and needed back in the day, that day is long past. Private unions are driving more jobs out of the country than they are keeping. There is absolutely no need for public unions also.
I won't deny that unions did give us the work laws that we have today, and for that I'm thankful. But they've gone past, way past basic work laws.
And while I'm no fan of the Koch bros', why don't you do a parellel list for Soros? He is no better than Koch.
Stop pretending that Democrats are better than Republicans, you both suck.
u mad bro?
Sorry the facts don't fit your fantasy.
Unions aren't useful huh? Do you think corporations would have just given you all your work laws out of generosity?
There is no parallel list for Soros, he doesn't run a corrupt, polluting oil company. He manages his family's investment fund.
Re-Elect Obama 2012
"The middle class would not exist without the unions paving the way for fair labor practices."
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But like tobacco, we realized too late that it was bad for us; now we need to get rid of this union cancer on society.
Thats funny...corrupt, polluting oil company. So I can assume you power your home off of wind? You ride a bike to work everyday? It wouldnt be a democratic comment without a dig at 'Big Oil', now would it?
You are correct in there is no parallel for Soros...he has PERSONALLY bought and paid for more politicians than any one in history.
So let me ask you this, since NO ONE has been able to give me a well thought out and reasonable answer....What positive effect does the union have in todays society that is not already covered by modern labor laws?
@Govt_Issue
So are you saying that because oil is a necessity for our way of life, then it's OK for the Koch brothers to try to get away with the most pollution possible?
Union organizing created the modern labor laws, they didn't pop out of thin air and the corporations for sure didn't volunteer. Without unions to hold the line today, corporate interests would roll the laws back to where they were in the 19th century. So, the existence of unions themselves IS the positive effect. You are aware of the election in Ohio yesterday, right?
@Re-Elect
Nah, I don't get mad at a bunch of pixels, sorry to disappoint, I have bigger things that I have control over to direct anger at. :)
As far as your angel Soros, why don't you read up some on hedge funds, his lawsuit, and the banks in Europe. That should give you some recent reading material. :) His greed and corruption are equal to that of Koch.
I never said Soros was an angel. The Koch brothers are out there actively working to undermine the American worker.
Yes Obama's owners are so much better:
"Kaiser, an Oklahoma billionaire and major Obama donor, was a frequent White House visitor in 2009 and 2010. White House officials for months have denied that Kaiser talked about Solyndra during those visits. One the nation's richest men, Kaiser owns an oil company and other energy interests"
And how about GE CEO Immelt, who now thanks to Obama is actually a part of our government.
What a disaster.
Really, Soros is just an angel doing God's work right? Try reading up on the man. By his own words, he survived the Holocost by pretending to be a Christian, he turned his back on his religion for his own survival, worse than that he ADMITS that he took great joy in leading Jews to their durmise during the Holocost, he also participated in stealing their belongings from them. When asked if he felt any guilt about his actions, he responded "NO" Turning against his own people was just the beginning of his "great life"
Secondly he set out to devalue the British pound, he succeeded and in the process made him self a small profit, I think it was about 2 billion dollars.
Third, after 9/11 prior to wallstreet's first trading session, all the banks had agreed not to make money by shorting stocks in order to try to get Wallstreet to "rally", what did YOUR HERO do, he enouraged Asian markets to "short" the market causing a huge decreases in our markets.
Yes yes, Soros is someone who should be admired. Soros isn't out to help anyone, he is out for one person HIMSELF.
You want to keep criticizing the Koch brothers, last time I checked they haven't lead anyone to their death.
Re-Elect,
First off, yes I am aware of the Ohio elections and what they represent. I have no problem with the outcome of the elections. Ohioans made their choice. Thats the beauty of it. Remember, they also rejected Obama-care. They voted for their own self interest, which is the way it is supposed to work. From what I saw, BOTH sides did their fair share of mis-informing the public and unfortunately that's what happens in todays politics, now more than ever.
Now lets discuss the Koch brothers, please point me where you obtained the data claiming the Koch Brothers create the most pollution possible. I would be interested in seeing that.
Finally on the unions. For all of the talk about Republicans and their fear mongering, you sure did a pretty good job of it claiming that corporations will go back to a 19th Century labor model. Surely you dont really think that, do you? Business model after business model shows that companies who treat their employees well and give them competitive wages and benefits are far more productive than those who are lacking in those areas. Businesses are there to make a profit, and they know the better they treat their people, the better product they can produce.
Personally I dont think the Kochs are any better than Soros. If I had my way, there would be no PAC's, a person could only donate 10k per year TOTAL for all political campaigns, get rid of the 50k per plate dinners, every dime a candidate gets/spends is audited and totally eliminate lobbyists...but thats just me.
pjam09 - it's no secret that America's corporations and lobbyists run more of the country than the President - and that started long before Obama.
and Jack Welch wasn't tight with Bush? Have you any idea how large GE actually is? If they move a plant, it can destroy an entire states economy. They are all over the world - to move out of the US would not even drop their profit margin...most people wouldn't even know. Yet, they are here in the US and they do contribute (as well as get tax breaks). That may not be right or fair, but it's better to keep jobs in this country, right?
When Hispanics and latinos join the uber-wealthy in this country, they too will be drawn to the GOP in lager numbers.
Not a day before.
Drive-by, 20 percent of Hispanics are registered republicans and I doubt they are part of the 1% but more of the 54% (those Americans that actually pay taxes).
Yeah, that 20% is mostly Cuban exiles and their descendents who did to Cuba what Republicans are doing to the United States.
The 47% or so of Americans who don't pay Federal income taxes are exempt because they are too poor. Yest, they also pay sales, property, utilities, state, county and city taxes.
I happen to know a few of those 47% that are also too lazy to get a job and live off the system on purpose. Which is why welfare needs a reform so it actually only goes to those that are truely in need. The rest can look for a job.
Let's not forget that there are some Latinos who kind of like Romney. I doubt that they can legally vote though. But at least they have the privilege of mowing his lawn.
"But at least they have the privilege of mowing his lawn.For Romney?"
No, they shoveled his snow.
No, they DID mow his lawn.
No, they washed his car.
No, they mowed his lawn.
No, they scrubbed his floors.
No, they shoveled his snow.
No, they waxed his dog.
No, they scrambled his eggs.
No, you were right the first time, I guess. I think. Maybe. It depends- what did you WANT them to have done?
He wishes they could vote for him......DBO---That just amazes me what rich people do with their money, but waxing your dog kind of seems excessive. Is it the same crap that they put in his hair?
" Is it the same crap that they put in his hair?"
Yes.
No.
Yes.
I mean, what do you WANT it to be?
Tom--they had to do something to the dog after tying him to the roof for their family vacation!
Romney no longer has illegal aliens working on his property---he told the agency he couldn't have them because he was running for President, for pete's sake!
latinos traditionally vote democrat just like african americans because they've been brainwashed to think Democrats have their best interest.
So white people are the only ones "smart" enough not to be brainwashed. I think you are off topic and your stats are wrong. As a percentage of the country, African American's are less likely to vote at all - Latino's are usually divided among both parties, but lean toward the GOP because of the "family values"
brainwashingcampaign slogans. At least "family values" is real to Hispanic families. We don't put our grandparents and parents out to pasture in a nursing home and visit only on holidays.I'm a Latino & converted from the dark hand out side to conservative...I've worked my nalgas off all my life & now I must give to the Lazy, because some topado president Obama says so! he has never worked in the fields, assembly lines, construction..he's a phoney! c'mon raza get a pinche clue! we gotta dump this mendigo Obama!
Handouts? You took handouts?
Have you no pride? No shame? What- were you trying to feed your family or some such nonsense?
How could you?
Drive by...the only hand outs I've ever taken, were handouts from my mother & father...Food, Clothing & Shelter. The food we grew on our land, the clothes they bought & the shelter my father built it... what the hell are you talking about lil person? Ooooo i see, your just a lil teen thats never worked. i'm sorry, did'nt mean to offend you son...now, go back to the 3rd grade classroom that you're ditching!
NO- you daid "I'm a Latino & converted from the dark hand out side to conservative.."
"dark HAND OUT side"? Your words, not mine. Didn't mean to offend, but that's how I read the post.
(By the way- ever hear the term "hand-UPS, not hand-OUTS"? What is 'dark' about that, which is what the Democrats are mostly about when compared to the other side?)
Concerned Ctzn - No seas tonto. No lo creo nada ques estas diciendo.
You have your right to chose how or who you you want to vote for but do if for the right reasons, hermano.
Although this post is about Latino voting patterns and not immigration it will ultimately degrade to a lot of right winger anti immigration attacks and posts.
Lets remember that although illegal immigration has always been an issue, NAFTA exacerbated the problem. The free trade of food products and flooding of US crops like corn crushed the Mexican agricultural economy. No way they could compete with non tariffed cheap prices from US. The farmers that grew corn a staple crop since before colonization began to make the trip north in greater numbers.
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For example, the Economic Policy Institute explains about post-NAFTA Mexico:
"In Mexico, real wages have fallen sharply and there has been a steep decline in the number of people holding regular jobs in paid positions. Many workers have been shifted into subsistence-level work in the 'informal sector'... Additionally, a flood of subsidized, low-priced corn from the U.S. has decimated farmers and rural economics."
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By the way who are you calling lazy and asking for handouts? When I drive around town, I usually see my "people" lining up to work as day laborers, I'll never see them standing on a corner with a sign asking for a handout.
Concerned Citz, or whatever your name is, I doubt that you are really a immigrant, but as one of the proud African Americans who has worked since I was 14 years old, I take exception to you talking about your taxes going to lazy people under Obama. The programs that in place to help poor people have been in place since the damn 1970s! The only program that is "new" is the extended unemployment benefits, that people WORKED FOR before they became UNEMPLOYED! Do some damn research because you talk crap! At best probably 1 cent our of every dollar you pay in taxes goes to social programs! The rest of your taxes have gone to bailing out wall street, paying for schools, hospitals and roads and education. But, you go ahead and vote GOP and see how fast they turn on your and your other Latino brothers, but checking your IDs everytime you talk a damn walk down the street! Again, do some damn research. All of our countries problems DID NOT START WHEN OBAMA TOOK OFFICE!
If two terms of George W. Bush hadn't wrecked the American economy, people wouldn't need handouts.
@DuchessDana,
What... like Obama didn't pay a damn bit of attention to the Latinos until election time? He's been deporting them faster than Bush up until a few months ago when he used his executive power to basically push amnesty through. At least a few Latinos are smart and see that Obama is doing nothing more than using them for a vote. After the election he'll toss them in gutter like before.
As far as 1 cent of every dollar going to welfare, I highly doubt that. There is so much money that could be saved by cutting down on the welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, etc. But no, both parties want to go after the elderly. How about all the lazy younger/middle age people that have made our tax dollars a way of life?? That isn't to say get rid of it, it's there for a reason, as a hand up!! NOT A HAND OUT!!
Yeah Dana, they started when Clinton was getting blown in the oval office.
Obama doesn't give a rats ass about Latinos, like you all have said on here for months "he's deported more of them than Bush did".
This amnesty talk is just a bunch of BS aimed at getting votes. Amnesty will never happen, the simple facts are immigration is a very difficult problem to address, in fact there probably isn't any "right way" to handle it without affecting someone's situation adversely.
The only reason Latinos vote for Libs is continued handouts. My wife is Latino. Her illegal sister just had a $10,000 eye operation done for free. Not to mention they're on welfare and not even legal. Sure, the GOP has a hard line stance on immigration, but there's a reason why and this example is just one of them.
During the campaign, Mr. Obama talked about pathways for citizenship for the illegals. Recently it was reported that Mr. Obama’s administration has deported more illegal’s than any sitting President.
But yet the Latin community supports him?
See above.
The only thing worse than the Obama Agenda is the NeoCon agenda.
Frankly, we hate both choices. We just hate one marginally less than the other.
/Hispanic
the majority of illegal immigrants the Obama administration deported were criminals. Most Latinos are not criminals.
1% - Obama is still talking about a pathway, problem is no one on the GOP side wants to have a serious comprehensive discussion. According to the poll Latinos support him, why you ask? There is no simple answer. As teknishan noted, Latino's support or don't support a politician based on more than one issue. As it should be.
Teknishan what portions of the Obama agenda do you disagree with and how do you feel the generic republican or their policy would do better. I'm guessing Government spending/deficit? Care to discuss?
From a liberal Latino to a conservative one have a good day.
NewsFlash! Most Latinos do not support illegal immigration. Illegals compete against Latino citizens in the working class and drive down wages
No Amy B, the news article I read talked about the dispassionate situations the administration was causing among illegal families: parents deported while legal children raised by legal friends.
Certainly there are criminals included in the deported groupings, rightfully so. But the numbers included by the media reporter were significant.
And are not those who live here without having entered as law requires considered illegal?
@Amy
No, the majority were not criminals. He didn't change that until a few months ago. Not that I have a problem with it, if you're illegal, then need to go home and come back the legal way. But you need to get your facts straight.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790_3.html?sid=ST2010082704452
@Amy
You do realize that being in the country illegally is a crime in our country? Also, SC only picks up those that pass through the cop shop and are finger printed. But that can be anything from drunk driving, to no license, to rape or manslaughter.
Also, Morton is a lying piece of crap. Maybe you should listen more to the Border Patrol... you know, the guys that are actually out there doing the dirty work? Instead of a stuffed suit who is clueless and an Obama mouth piece, just like DHS is.
Or how about the fact that ICE gave him a vote of no faith? His own guys don't even believe him or like him.
YellowDog;
The generic republican any more is NeoCon :( So no, they wouldn't do better.
I think Obama is too worried about the non-working poor, and not helping the WORKING poor. This was a country that you come to in order to provide for your family, off the sweat of your brow.
It's no longer that country.
Too much of our freedoms have been given to the fiscal and DoD institutions.
We fight wars with 'contractors' now.
We let banks leverage 35-to-1 on debt/equity ratios.
Unless you have money, there is few ways to GET money.
And Obama, for all his rhetoric, has swung more cash at big business than anyone with an (R) after their name could have gotten away with. That's a fact, and can be backed up at the treasury website.
Fact is, they're all corporate shills. Corporations need to get out of politics.
We need to go to mandatory public funding on pain of public execution. Tired of people trying to sell my children's lives out from under them, and that includes the big-spending congress on both sides of the aisle.
beachbum12;
Lots are here from Canada and they are stealing our jobs and taking food off our tables.
Univision News poll: President Obama holds advantage with Latino voters, leaving GOP with uphill battle! I guest 67-24 is waning? Come on guys!
I think that poll was of LEGAL immigrants; not the illegals that are given fake SS numbers and registered to vote by Dem supporters.
It is a case of obama doing too much for hispaincs. He never let the full force of the anti-hispanic laws in alabama, georgia, and arizona to go into effect but had the laws thrown out using the legal system. The laws would be in full effect today if mr grover had the presidency.
It baffles me how any Latino could vote for Obama. He has failed as president, he is incompetent as president, and if re-elected America will become the absolute worst place for Latinos to live and work. There will be no jobs, unemployment will continue to stay at 9% or above, and Latinos will have to fight to even survive in an Obama-stiffled America.
The same as the rest of Americans.
Obama is soft on criminals... HISPANIC criminals. That is far more important to them the future of the nation they now reside in. Race trumps citizenship and quality of life for some people.
The Hispanic vote will be democratic as long as the republicans talk about shooting or frying them at the border or make them constantly prove that they are legal once they are here.
Do you think legal immigrants give a damn about illegals and drug traffickers? People who have built a life here honestly and legally are getting sick of the illegals and criminals negatively impacting their rights and freedoms as Americans.
please, we're Americans! Black, white, red, purple or whatever...we're Americans and the election will come down to our economy.... right now it stinks and that alone leaves obama vulnerable.....
Yea and verly, Kellysview- you speak the truth.
And we need to straighten out not the "Black, white, red, purple or whatever", but the damned-dumb people in the House and Senate that proudly proclaim their first priority is to 'toss Obama" from office.
The people that sign pledges to one private person, rather than take care of the thousands that voted them into their jobs.
I think it's funny Republicans say there is nothing government can or should do to improve the economy. Government, they say, must let the free market fix itself, and then, they turn around and criticize President Obama for not creating jobs. It's like they want a socialist President, but they don't want him to be a Democrat, and they don't want him to be Barack Obama.
amy you can't blame only democrats or republicans. It's people like YOU who are so blind and believe everything their party says that is the real problem. It is in that area I give obama an "A". He is a terrifice finger pointer, blamer and divider. Sadly, in the White House we'd be better off with a LEADER.
Kellysview
Excuse me? I do blame Republicans, after watching House Republicans flirt with defaulting on our loans.
I thought "fiscal conservative" meant being risk-averse, resposible and credit - worthy. Today's Republican's were willing to see our credit rating downgraded in order to protect the tax rates of the rich. It's Republicans who are waging war on the middle class, not Democrats on the 1%.
@Amy
I don't see the Democrats doing anything for me. But of course I'm a non-union worker working for a private company... so that's to be expected.
and the democrats are blameless?? I thought harry and nancy accelerated the spending after obama took over in 2009... Wake up! It's a two way street. I really don't believe you're that naive.
Kellysview and
AlexM-2364525
Do you people recall the situation when Bush left office? Do the words "financial crisis" ring a bell? The stimulus bill was passed as states were having to lay off thousands of teachers, cops and firefighters. Automakers were teetering on bankruptcy. If the auto industry was allowed to collapse the ripples of layoffs would have radiated through related industries. Obama did something. And, Republicans have been attacking him ever since. Making Obama a one term President was their number one goal from the get-go, not getting folks back to work.
Amy, I could have sworn Obama wanted a clean vote onn the Debt Ceiling...and by the way when was the last time a budget bill was passed?
All financial legislation originates in the House of Representatives, which is currently controlled by the Republicans.
President Obama submitted his 2012 budget on February 14, 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_federal_budget
@Amy
I do notice that every job you talked about is a union job, thanks for clarifying that for me. But I guess the union jobs and their wages/benefits had nothing to do with the automakers almost going bankrupt (along with the pay/bonuses to the top dogs, corruption, buying out politicians, etc, etc).
The financial crisis started before Bush II, just like the dot com bubble started long before it crashed. Obama is as guilty as Bush II, Clinton and Bush I. Bring him down off the pedestal.
Sad to say, we currently have NO qualified candidates for next year, including our current president.
Drive by,
Have a news flash for you. The people who actually voted for the candidates that signed that pledge you spoke of also singed the same pledge, or would have signed the same given the opportunity.
You make it sound as if they got elected despite signing this, and that couldnt be further from the truth. They got elected BECAUSE they signed it.
ABO 2012
Amy- your lack of understanding in the political arena, is frightening! Suffice to say, the Republican Congress did not flirt with defaulting on the loans. You liberals play blame games, period. Obama will not be elected, and the Senate will go Republican, in 2012. America is done with liberalism!
I think they mean legal Latinos. They're getting tired of the illegals taking their jobs.
I too worked my little Hispanic back-side, I am not a burden on society, I raised 4 kids by myself and as payment for my hard work I now get to pay (taxes) and support those who can't or won't support themselves. I'm Hispanic, female and fiscally conservative. I don't like any of the GOP candidates, but any one of those candidates would be better than what we have now!
you don't make a whole lot of sense. Obama extended the Bush tax breaks for the middle class and the wealthiest, so you aren't paying more taxes than you did under the Republicans. Fiscal conservatives? The Republicans spent us into this deficit. Bill Clinton left the country with a surplus, on track to pay down our debts. Get real.
Now you're on to something Amy... the republicans from 2002-2007 were not fiscally conservative. They began spending and now obamacarter has taken to even higher levels. What we need is a fiscal conservative policy.. As for Clinton and his surplus...it didn't happen until Newt and the GOP took congress! It was fiscal conservative policy that brought us prosperity and we won't see any strong recovery until that again happensl.
hey Amy,
take the rose colored glasses off.
Obama spent $4 trillion in 3 years and added to the debt.
Go GOP
I didn't say the GOP was fiscally conservative in the recent past (but they should have been). I didn't say I pay more taxes now than I did before - My point was I could easily have chosen to take advantage of the social programs designed to help someone like myself and survive, or I could work my bottom off (like I did), advance my position and earnings and thrive instead of becoming a burden on society. I now am part of the group that pays so that others can take advantage of such social programs.
I didn't do it by myself. I had family and friends as a support system. I had a community that wanted to see my succeed. I believe friends and community should provide support - not be a mandate from our government. If you keep distributing the wealth, the well will dry up. If you provide a system that allows those who work hard, invest, take risks the ability to achieve financial success, there will be wealth to be had. We do have to take care of those less fortunate and we have to support those in need, but at a local level. We can't do it a federal level, it's inadequate and too full of red tape to get to those who truly need it.
Artiicle shoud have read" Enthusiaism for Obama fades among all Americans". You are either an American or you are not. There is no such thing as a Mexican-American, African-American, Chinese American etc.... When you are in the USA you pledge your loyalty to this country and no other, if you can not do that, please feel free to leave , there are buses and planes going to other countries every day.
Among all Americans, Obama's numbers are up to 49% from 47% last month.
"Up" to less than half, just Fabulous.
relect - Tell us what grade does a 49% get you?
Obama's overall average approval rating so far is 50%
Ratings for past presidents through their full terms:
GW Bush 49.4%
Clinton 55.1%
GHW Bush 60.9%
Reagan 52.8%
JFK has the highest average approval rating among modern Presidents at 70.1%
GW Bush also had the highest average disapproval rating among modern Presidents at 71%
"Latinos prefer Obama to GOP but enthusiasm wanes."
DUH.
They want JOBS.
(like everyone else)
Except nobody else prefers Obama.
49% job approval and climbing. Obama still beats Romney, Cain and Perry head to head.
"Sixty-seven percent of Latino voters would choose Obama over Romney"
Wait till the general election debates and the UNEMPLOYED Latinos get a chance to hear Obama answer some questions like......
" Mr.President, why is it OK to spend $500+ millions ( possibly Billions) on "green" companies after it is reported they are going bankrupt ?"
Answer from Obama: "you win some , you lose some"
What you will never read onMSNBC:
Univision is also leftist and biased... Its anchor is a big advocate for open borders.
Univision smeared Marco Rubio, doing numerous stories on his brother.
It 's polls are no doubt spun toward their hero Obama....
The truth is neither party will ever really do anything about illegal immigration.
Republicans actually like their profit margins and really don't want to get rid of the cheaper work-force. So they're not really looking for a resolution.
Democrats don't really want to resolve it because they depend on the Latin legal vote. If they resolved it, the more religiously conservatives might side with GOP.
Well said proud_hispanic...that is absolutely correct!
bad obama economic policies hurt latino voters and their economics.
Hmmm, it seems MSNBC is not too interested in reporting on the White House dealings with Obama campaign bundlers in getting the Solyndra loan approved. It just doesn't reflect too well on Mr Obama. Any way, here it is:
Hey, but at least the "latino" voters still prefer him (sarcasm).
No wonder Latinos are fading from the Obama camp. With all the empty rhetoric, Obama's leadership failures, corruption, deficit spending, debt building, etc.. most Latinos are getting disgusted and are starting to look elsewhere for leadership.
Most Latinos? The article indicated that 67-68% would vote for Obama over any of the republicans. LOL
That is why I said "starting". By the time the election rolls around there will be many more.
But only 30% actually "strongly approve" of him... and that is even after all the pandering he does to them.
"But taken as a whole, Latinos are not as torn about the president as the rest of the country: 66 percent of Latinos approve of the job Obama has done, while only 29 percent disapprove. Nationwide, 50 percent of Americans disapprove of the job the president is doing, while 48 percent approve.
Making matters worse for Obama on the national front, the opposition is intense: of the 50 percent who disapprove of his work in the White House, 37 percent disapprove strongly, while the remaining 13 percent only disapprove somewhat. And his approval rating among Latinos appears softer than the top line number, only 30 percent strongly approve of the president’s job performance."
All these numbers are still fluid and will change as the election approaches. Head to Head, Obama is still beating the top 3 republican candidates.
Also these polls are not yet targeting those who are most likely to vote, only the general population. Additionally, Job Approval is not the same as asking, "Given the current choices, are you going to vote for him?"
Obama will easily win the Latino vote, Black vote, gay vote, women's vote and most likely the military vote.