The middle class has a pulse.

That sound you hear is *champagne corks popping* across the country!

Watching the various results come in this evening has renewed my faith in fellow Americans!

We're not going to take it anymore...

PS: Scooter Walker has to be crapping himself right about now! LMAO!

Cheers Rethuglican's enjoy it while you still can!

Well then, those voters will be happy to pay for their moral standing. Case over.

As an Ohioian living california I could not be more proud of my state. You have proved to the country that getting involved matters

And the momentum swing begins!!!

Amen! I could not agree more! Today Ohio, tomorrow WI nd then it is on to Florida! The American middle class is alive and fighting back. I'm thrilled!

Oh Yes! It feels so good.

cowboy: not really. They (the middle class) voted against their self interest in Ohio when they voted the Republicans into office. The suburbs of Cleveland where the first to take a hit with education funding. They did an article in the Plain Dealer and I could not stop laughing. They had a superintendent saying that was not what they voted for. The problem with Ohio is that it's a swing state that think it is a fully red state. There is hardships due to manufacturing going overseas and large tax abatement. The city of Brooklyn almost gave their soul to keep American Greetings and they left for greener pastures in a wealthier suburb. After what they offer for American Greetings to stay came to light, it was a good thing that they didn't have the company take them up on the offer. We have cities decimating their tax base to get companies to stay and then the residence carry a higher tax burden. The Ohio Republicans had the regular folks fighting amongst each other and they could have gotten away with SB 5 if they didn't try for everything so fast. So, this is not over yet. The middle class (what's left of it) will become complacent again and we will find out selves in this position again.

It's not about keeping the benefits, its about the RIGHT to NEGOTIATE. The right to not have big money slash our throats before we have a conversation. Go OHIO! The Middle class fights back Hard! So exciting!

lastonehome

The governors cannot give the rich tax breaks, then cry the state is broke and expect the middle class to pay for it. The People of Ohio have SPOKEN!

I guess the Governor seriously under-estimated exactly how badly broken the Ohio School System Really is

More like "BEER CAN TABS POPPING" Feisty! The Middle Class of OHIO has spoken loudly tonight!

The Decline of Unions since RayGun has coincided with TrickleUp Economics, thats why we see an Astronomical amount of $$$$ residing in the hands of a few.

Unions are'nt the reason for the Economic Collaspe:

It was PURE GREED!

My inlaws here in KY, All Republicans, did'nt even Bother to VOTE today, but Govenor Steve Bershear Daum sure got Mine!

You Betcha!

governor came in and cut taxes hugely on the rich and corporations, gave his staff huge pay raises (some as much as 40%), cut education horribly and then said middle class workers had to pay for the tax cuts he gave to rich people. kasich is a horrible, lying politician and people here actually saw what he did. I am so proud of OH citizens! Thank you!!

I am so proud of Ohio. Things are looking up.

@Mr.PheaNiques-0000001

Pound salt troll.

Speaking as a native Ohioan . . . Yes!

Ohio Vote:

Labor Unions 1 Republicans 0

Which State is up next?

Way to go Ohio!!! Cheers!!!!

They are building the gallows and greasing the rope.

What do you want for your last meal Republicans?

How bout a little Humble Pie?

And less than one year till Nov 2012.

My, my, my,.........I think Democrats and Unions can smell blood in the water!!

Do you think the shredders at ALEC headquarters are running overtime right now?

Actually Mr.Phea: people in Ohio demonized the teachers and schools. It was not until the police and firefighters got swept up in this stupid crap, then the momentum picked up.

rmh70: If you think Ohio is losing jobs, because of the unions then you have no concept of what is going on. Can things be negotiated, yes. Is that the only reason we are in the crapper, hell no.

As an Ohioan, I can tell you just how BADLY the Republicans underestimated and misunderstood the majority of Ohioans and what is best for us. We worked HARD to send them a message with this vote. It remains to be seen whether the Republican Party and legislators will learn from the lesson we taught them tonight.

John Kasich and the Ohio Republican legislators have given Barack Obama a GIFT for the next election. Ohio will be BLUE in 2012, thanks to John Kasich and the State Republican legislative leaders.

Amazing how ignorant people in Ohio are, to let a minority dictate what the majority has to cough up!

Sit back & wait for your Med-Cart! We still live in a Democracy no matter how much you & your ilk want to change that!

67% is hardly a minority...

Here's your home work assignment - go l@@k up the definition of the word 'MAJORITY' and then come back and play... K???

"What's round on the end and HI in the middle..."

OHIO!

God bless you, Ohio voters! And congratulations for your stand against the corporate masters of the Republican Party!

You showed the Koch boys that money can't buy everything!

these people are part of the 99% we are coming, we do not forget, we do not forgive.

Congrats Ohio on the successful repeal! You have spoken for many across our Country.

I am BEGGING both sides - can we ALL quit with the collapsing bull@!$%#?

Let comments ride on their own merits...

layoffs to public union employees will begin in 2012. guaranteed. they had their chance to contribute a fair share and they rejected it. now it will cost them their jobs because tax payers have had enough most operating Levy's went down tonight

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Here's your home work assignment - go l@@k up the definition of the word 'MAJORITY'

Perhaps you need to do some homework before you spout off on things you know nothing about.

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
UNION MEMBERSHIP IN OHIO - 2010

In 2010, the number of workers belonging to a union in Ohio was 655,000, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Regional Commissioner Charlene Peiffer noted that union members accounted for 13.7 percent of wage and salary workers in Ohio in 2010, compared to 14.2 percent in 2009.

Lets face reality, Unions do have some issues that need to be addressed. The problem with Republicans is they want to throw the baby out with the dirty bathwater. Good job Ohio.

No kidding Fiesty!! Crazy strange today with all the collapsed posts. Is it always like this before an election or vote?

I notice that MSN doesn't even mention on their news page that Ohioans spit on the healthcare scam mandate...haha...pretty typical for the liberal democrat neo-communist fish wrap

rmh70, why don't you make yourself and others happy and move to a right to work for less and less and less state.

WTG Ohio!!! Now the rest of middle-class needs to get off their rumps and vote right-wing bums out of office from coast to coast. We've had enough of the rich getting richer, while the rest of Americans declines at their expense.

besides...who really cares if Ohioans want to pay there state employees WAY more than their private sector counterparts , and their lifetime pensions...haha...pretty funny really...

neo-comms are all against the 1% and these folks are all good with helping their state employees get to the 1% level as quick as possible!...hahaha

the neo-comm campaign coffers need some cash peeps!...get those dues in !...lazy azzes

http://www.dispatch.com/content/downloads/2011/09/BRT-Public-Sector-Comp-Study.pdf

@Forrest, Actually I made more in a right to work state than I did in a union job. Freaking cafeteria servers got better pay than the trained and experienced Certified Nursing assistants.

Then again I saw Nursing unions strike hospitals, not for more pay, but for safer staffing levels.

Its hit and miss, but the system should be fixed, not scrapped.

There is an old saying, You can never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American consumer (voter) and today is one of them. Nobody here who voted to repeal the law has given the vaguest thought how the state is going to close the deficit. Do you want to raise taxes on yourselves or do you want your neighbor fired from his job? And remember if you increase sales taxes or property taxes or business taxes you are forcing people and businesses and jobs out of Ohio. You haven't thought about that right?

Now let's see if they will propose and pass a referendum that imposes a tax on everyone equally to pay for the additional spending that will be required as a result of the increase spending they just voted for.

Where to get the money to make up for it??

Try taking it back from big business where it was given, duh!

To the People in Ohio who voted today I would just like to say a GREAT BIG MAHALO!!! from Honolulu Hawaii. Thank you !!!

Too bad for Ohio.

America is waking up. Here’s one big reason we won in Ohio—people can see that the firefighters, teachers, nurses and snowplow drivers hurt by SB 5 didn’t cause our economic problems. Wall Street did.

Ohio voters saw through Senate Bill 5—they understood it was a plan to make the 99 percent bear the burden of Wall Street’s and the GOP's recklessness—and that it would do nothing to create jobs.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why, of why, so many people are so against middle class people making a decent living (i.e., teachers, firefighters, etc.). I'm not talking about half a million a year, just a living wage to house, feed and clothe a family. Why is it suddenly a sin to want that? More and more of the middle class is disappearing into poverty, and none of the republican politicians seem to care or see this as a problem.

I guess Ohio citizens are not as stupid as Koch brothers and their governor thinks.

"Now let's see if they will propose and pass a referendum that imposes a tax on everyone equally"

you mean like the having the folks that don't currently pay federal income tax actually get some skin in the game?...you will never get that past your liberal neo-communist bretheren ...nice thought though

Yes, good for Ohio. While I completely support the governor, the people of his state do not. The great thing about our democracy is that the governor will abide by the vote, there will be no riots in the streets (i.e. Greece) no businesses or private homes will be destroyed. We live by the will of the majority. I only hope that the people of Ohio are going to be happy paying higher taxes supporting a few union workers in Ohio. Its their money, if they want to use it all paying taxes its their choice.

Finally. Some sanity here.

Workers have rights!!

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Perhaps you need to do some homework before you spout off on things you know nothing about.

PS: Continue to post 2 year old links - it only reinforces what a fool you are!

2 year old links? You show your ignorance by not even bothering to look up what I referenced.

The information, from the US Department of Labor, was from Monday, February 28, 2011.

Wait... liberals are communists now? I thought they were socialists.

Let me guess, middle class people opposed to SB 5 are communists.

@rmh70

don't be mad at whatever her name is...reading is fundemental , just not mastered

edandbunny like any group of people in an organization a union is only as good as the members make it, if the members are involved, engaged and elect good officers, they have a better outcome than if the members are complacent and apathetic, if you are ever in a union get involved, run for a union office, and make it better if you can.

" liberals are communists now".....good one!

actually they have been since the 60's...isn't it cool?

No, Lastone, it's not that people don't have the vaguest thought -- it's that they HAVE had thoughts and the Governor tried to shut down their right to have a discussion about their thoughts. It's not that these people want to dodge their share of the burden getting the U.S. back on track, it's that they don't want to have all the burden shoved on their backs.

And look across the country today -- this is a landslide victory for anyone who wants to make sure that everyone in this Republic has the right to have their voice heard, rather than have those voices shut down or gerrymandered as has been the go to play out of the Republican playbook for the past year.

Wow! Ohio defeats this bill and Mississippi -- MISSISSIPPI! -- defeats the anti-abortion bill. Teapublicans will act unconcerned, but you know they are shaking in their boots. 2012 can't get here soon enough!

I'm happy the unions retain their bargaining rights. The unions have the opportunity to work with the governor to meet budget restraints. Now let's see if unions agree to increased pension and healthcare participation by public employees and retirees. Will the governor be forced to lay off government employees in order to make ends meet?

The GOP and the TEA party just got reminded that our government is not the enemy. As the US Constitution states "We the people in order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare...." 99% beats 1% everytime.

Bosslimo you don't even know what a communist is, so you can't use the word in the context you want. And if you think for one second that Russia, China, Cuba, North Korea, South Yemen or East Germany were/are communistic states then you are a typical uneducated person who voted for this option of balancing your state budget to be flushed down the crapper.

FYI information there is only one country where communism exists and has worked for the last 100 years. All the other countries mentioned above are state dictatorships run by one person or party and everyone has killed thousands or millions of its people.

Communism is a social, political and economic movement that aims at the establishment of a classless, communist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production. A commune is an intentional community of people living together, sharing common interests, property, possessions, resources, and, in some communes, work and income.

It only exists in Israel on the communes.

As you don't know what communism is and have such a poor grasp of economics, you are hardly in a position to make comments on what you have no idea.

And so now the layoffs begin, while the majority certainly rules, where will the money come from? I'm only guessing that the people of Ohio don't support the tax increases necessary to sustain the collective bargaining agreements made in the past, who is going to pay for this? As Margaret Thatcher once said, its fine to spend other people's money, but what happens when its gone? Do you people really think the rich people in Ohio are gonna pay more taxes, thats what lawyers and accountants are for, what is gonna happen then? Do you really think the rich won't move, do you really think corporations won't move out of Ohio??? Who is gonna pay when there are no more rich people to tax in Ohio??? I guess you could ask Maryland and New York they have been in the exact situation. Rich people are always gonna find loopholes, they are always gonna get tax credits. So I hope the middle class in Ohio is ready to pay higher taxes. Good luck Ohio

The public union members are NOT the middle class. Nice try. I fail to understand how this is anything more than a sham against people who actually produce and contribute. The 99% will wake up one day and realize they are even more on the outside looking in now than ever. I feel for the people of Ohio. They've been duped.

God bless the folks of Ohio for being on the right side of history. Let us never drop our guard again. Vote every damned time against the corporate bought politicians. Even if it's a democrat or independent.

lastonehome- I don't remember pulling your chain but thanks for speaking up.

so·cial·ism

a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

communism
[kom-yuh-niz-uhm]

 Origin

Com·mu·nism

 

1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

2. (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
3. (initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.

Two totally different systems and yet, neither one relates to liberals.

lib·er·al

1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

Thanks for playing.

McinCA

The public union members are NOT the middle class? Cant think of anything more middle class myself. You need to get your head out.

Psssst, psssst, uh, ummm, uh, many of the southern folks are happy about what Ohioans have done today. Lots of us though, can't act like we are. Might get a cross burned in front of our home.

Hey free willie - thanks for that recommendation. Now everything is completely clear. The public union people are the elites! I stand by my comment.

Public employees are the majority that's left of the middle class. As a matter of fact, any union job is a middle class job. Everyone else is either rich or poor.

God Bless Ohio!!! No one else will!!! They have just signed their death certificate. This is what happens when the ignorant vote.

Public unions are the worst thing that ever happened in this country. Can't wait for Athens, Ohio to look like that other Athens that is a complete mess...

Bosslime, that is a pretty sad comment. Are you suggesting that most people are not capable of living without being a public union member? You might as well be a monkey in a zoo demanding more rights from the zookeeper.

I was born in ohio and this vote by the people there makes me glad I left. Really people, voting for unions? REALLY? PUBLIC COLLECTIVE BARGAINING?? you must be high....

oh wait, you don't understand things on your own because your "union" bosses tell you how to vote. Yeah.. let's see how well that works for you. Unions at one point in our history were great. Now they are the death of businesses... (how many car companies went down the drain for greedy union bosses and trying to milk all the can from their business? Government Motors anyone... ??)

the state has been on a nose dive for a long time and now I know why, uneducated voters.... uneducated workers who only do what they are "told"...

I have family members in unions in Ohio.... I know how they work and their work ethic and I was a member of union in California... won't make that mistake again.

when all this happened with gov Kasich I said that there would be a backlash and recalls, because all that the republicans did was wake a sleeping giant (organized workers) most people told me I was full of it, and had no idea what I was talking about. I was both union and nonunion in during the years that I worked, and the one thng that I realize and even alot of people that are nonunion do is that the union also keeps the wages up for the nonunion people in the same field, because they have to be competitive, or lose thier personel. maybe someday more people will realize that, but until then I would like to say two things. 1) Way to go Ohio 2) To all of those that said I didn't know what I was talking about, and that organized labor doesn't have the push to do it, I told you so. They had the recalls, and now they told the gov. to stuff it. The one thing organized labor is very good at is getting out the vote, walking the precients, and getting people registered.

There are changes that may need to be made, for example the seniority system for teachers instead of being based on performance, but these decisions need to be made along with the workers. These unions were negotiating in good faith and had already given much. Really, it is the same basic principle of democracy that people have a voice in what affects their lives.

As for states like Wisconsin, someone already posted above how concessions made to corporations is what was causing deficits. To make the middle class and working poor pay for this loss in revenue is despicable. The people want a system in which everyone can get ahead, not just a privileged few.

Companies in the private sector are sitting on piles of cash because they are no longer satisfied with an 8% profit margin, now they want 25% and if that means throwing workers under the bus, that's what they've been doing. I hope we see a resurgence in organized labor in the private sector. The pendulum needs to swing back in favor of JOBS that pay decent wages everywhere.

And look, the Teapublicans have been up to a lot of things in addition to union-busting, such as gerrymandering, messing with the electoral system, and voter suppression. Busting unions was just one of many ways the GOP/TP was trying to dismantle support for the Dems. It's Teapublicans who should win elections based on merit for a change.

Funny stuff you all write here. You complain that businesses are leaving Ohio

There is hardships due to manufacturing going overseas and large tax abatement

But then vote for legislation that will undoubtedly increase taxes. Do you REALLY believe this will keep businesses from leaving? Or maybe, just maybe, they will leave in droves when the tax increases to pay for these public sector benefits hit?

Good Luck Ohio. Better start working on your bailout application. It is just a matter of time.....

ABO 2012

@Bosslimo

Try taking it back from big business where it was given, duh!

And then the businesses move to a more business friendly less tax state, duh!

Can you really be this dense? The only choices that Ohio has now are:

1) Tax businesses to pay for this error, in which case they move and the economy gets worse

2) Tax the people of Ohio (In which case some of them will move as well)

Regardless, they will not be able to generate the revenue to keep this ruse up.

I have relatives of retirement age in Ohio. ANY tax increase on them will just have them relocate to a lower tax state. They have reason to stay in Ohio anyway....

Good luck Ohio. Because you lack reason, luck is all you have left to rely on.

ABO 2012

To bad the tea is getting weak. republican/tea bag party see not everyone agrees with you like think.

dsdsherm maybe your kin folk will move in with you.

UNION YES

Congratulations Ohio,

You now have no way to pay your $8 Billion debt.

Tax those evil corporations and watch them leave.

Tax those evil wealthy do nothings and watch them leave.

Yes the Socialist Workers Paradise has returned to the Buckeye State.

To all businesses in Ohio, Tennessee has very low property taxes and no income tax, come on down!

Yes, the labor unions won a big one, by pouring in thirty million dollars and seventeen thousand out of state ,"volunteers",(that will be reimbursed by the people of Ohio in the form of increased taxes and union dues that the unions will get back during the next collective bargaining session), but as Mr. Kasich basically said in his statement last night, You voted for it folks,but the state does not hav

Yes, the labor unions won a big one, by pouring in thirty million dollars and seventeen thousand out of state ,"volunteers",(that will be reimbursed by the people of Ohio in the form of increased taxes and union dues that the unions will get back during the next collective bargaining session), but as Mr. Kasich basically said in his statement last night, You voted for it folks,but the state does not have the money to pay for Your decision,now, You own it, enjoy.

Amen!

We here in Wisconsin are hoping to continue on the success of Ohio. We have already heard that Walker and his allies will be signing people up to false petitions.

Listening to Hucakbee's comments in Ohio made me sick. Telling people to prevent people from voting or telling them the wrong location or wrong date to vote, is wrong.

Why do Republicans keep trying to prevent Americans from voting?
Our brave vets fought for the rights of people around the world to be able to vote.

Today's Republican party keeps trying to prevent Americans from exercising the right to vote.

Very true J.D. Still... I'm a former Buckeye and it's a sad day to see Ohio now go in the toilet. They will sink faster than you can see under the burden of public union expense. It's a shame really as Ohio USED to be a great state...now it's just as bad as California... Sigh...

It's to bad we can't start Taxing those Union Dues Call it A "User Tax"

Union's have Been a Cancer to this State oh there's always Hospice................

rrobeson

Well then, those voters will be happy to pay for their moral standing. Case over.

We are...we're just not willing to pay for the rich anymore!

Ol_Doc,

Any by rich you are also including the union bosses??

Don't misunderstand my post. I said union jobs are middle class; public or private. The rest live above or below that line.

The mere fact that the middle class has disappeared precisely at the same rate that unionized jobs have are proof in this.

Ironic that the middle class isn't there any more to fund the rich in their government subsidies. Sure, lets have the poor pay for corporate welfare, lets see how well that works. How about cutting benefits that workers have invested in all their lives? They're working on that now.

"The rich get richer and the poor get poorer."

Andrew Jackson, in his 1832 bank veto, said that

when the laws undertake... to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society... have a right to complain of the injustice to their Government.^[2][3]

William Henry Harrison said, in an October 1, 1840 speech,

I believe and I say it is true Democratic feeling, that all the measures of the government are directed to the purpose of making the rich richer and the poor poorer.^[4][5]

You can deny this isn't happening today but there are thousands protesting the 1% globally for that very same reason.

" How about cutting benefits that workers have invested in all their lives? They're working on that now."

union "workers" don't invest in their own benefits...haha..if they are a puplic sector union member then the taxpayers pay for most of their benefits..if they are a private sector union member then the public pays for most of their benefits in the form of higher prices for goods and services because it is "passed on"...nice try , but failz

Harry Blank

Congradulations, you found a sector of jobs unique in that.

However, you missed the entire point. You failed to address the fact that these cuts go directly to subsidies. You failed to address the fact that the diminishing middle class is in direct proportion to diminishing union members. You failed to address the 575% increase in the 1% pay and the protestors addressing that. You failed to address the issue that the rich has a much smaller middle class to fund their corporate welfare.

Although, you managed to find one item that union members not paying for benefits. Unfortunately, you failed to point out that they do indeed pay a portion of it. They have conceded that already.

gotta watch them corporate controlled lawmakers, constantly trying to bust up Unions. It would not be surprising that some Republican majority pull another stunt like that they pulled with the Postal Service Union (letter carrier union) back in 2006. That was when GW Bush's team injested a poison pill into the Postal Service, requiring them to prefund all their retirees at 75%.... Hmmm, that is generally 2 times more than that of any normal corporations and other government entitities...

Can you say union busting.

Harry Blank: you need to study up on your facts much more. Union workers invest in their own benefits and pension. In fact that was one of the key arguements in the Wisconson. The teachers pay into their pension 100%. If you don't understand, that means the WI teachers will directly invest a portion of their pay toward their pension. There is no additional WI tax $ involved (like the WI governor wants people to believe).

Bosslimo,

And you failed to address that union members pay a FAR smaller percentage in their own retirement and health care than any other non-union worker. You also failed to address the amount of money that unions pay to keep their existence at the expense of their rank and file members. You also failed address the lack of voice the average union member has towards his union leaders. You say they concede that, but that was ONLY after people called them out on it. You failed to address the YEARS and YEARS of union members NOT paying into their own retirement and healthcare at the expense of either the tax paying public or companies that have to fund these costs.

ture that JK

and then of course there is the record of union thuggery , murder , strong arm robbery , racketeering , arson , murder , time clock fraud , drinking and drug use on the job , murder , insurance fraud , good 'ol fun if you ask me...they know the facts , they know that your points are valid , but it doesn't matter , America has an entire generation that has bought into the progressive (the communists used to call themselves progressives in the 50's) utopia ideology and feels like it is owed and what they forget is THEIR parents and grandparents are to blame as much as anyone else if you follow their line of thought.I guarantee they don't have the sac to go give their parents a rash of shyte over their percieved "union injustices" and call them out...but who really cares anyway , it's fun to watch them flip out of control!

oh...and I believe my post includes the word "most" ...and if you were to use some of your superior "critical thinking" and get a Websters out you will see that "most" doesn't mean "all"...and if you did some book learnin' you would find that tax payers and the public DO pay most of their benefits...pretty simple really...and cool!!

Harry Blank.

Ohio does not pay union workers more because they increased their pay. They pay them more because the private sector exported jobs and cut everyone else's pay. Since your ilk will never listen to a Democrat. Listen to one of your heroes:

These are the values inspiring those brave workers in Poland … They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost. R. Reagan.

These are the values inspiring those brave workers in Poland … They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost.

Judging from the vote in Ohio, a major swing state. I suggest you take another quote by a two-term Republican with you to the primary:

If we could get every Republican committed as a Moderate Progressive, the Party
would grow so rapidly that within a few years it would dominate American
politics.

Harry Blank: You're right, I don't have criticial thinking skills... Since you establish that , then please show us the facts that the union received "MOST" of their benefits for tax payer?

liar, liar, pants on fire...

Still sharing night with Moet and Chandon. WOO HOOO!

Still singing. Mixing Helen Ready with Eric Clapton and Frankie Valli. "Oh what a night! We are the 99% hear us roar! She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie, Koch-Cain.

Looks like people are collecting the dots...that's bad news for the GOPTP.

I'm doing a little James Brown Ana- I feel good, (like I new I would).

Congratulations Ohio!

Forrest! You have got to be so happy! Congratulations! Big win!

FINALLY!

The poeple Ohio have spoken!! Thank you Ohio!! Texas appreciates you sending your jobs down south. Don't think for a minute that we don't appreciate it either. We do. Long live Ohio public service unions!!!

I'm Very Happy New Day, "What's round on the end and HI in the middle..."OHIO, that was pretty geeky ND, I love it, God bless the Geeks, I qoute Bill Gates, and tell young people to be nice to geeks, because you will probably wind up working for one. Yeah Ohio! and to James Brown's kick ass horn section!

Terry I quit a job 30 years ago making more than the present median income in Texas, I feel sorry for workers in Texas, I'll give you a hint, when the Illegal Mexicans are leaving you know your job really sucks.

You feel good????? How are you going to fix the deficit? Hate to rain on your parade but you didn't make the problem go away? You voted in the governor and now you are hamstringing him on what you asked him to do. So come up with a detailed plan. I am waiting.

Go to Texas which has the highest number of minimum wage employees and those w/o health insurance as they edged out the former number one state for that honor: Mississippi where voters grew a brain and voted down another proposed idiot bill: The one giving a fertilized egg "personhood". People are finally starting to "get it" and the repubs are so scared they have to pass severely restrictive voter ID laws, ram through redistricting lines in the states to heavily favor their party to the point a non-partisan committee leader was fired by Jan Brewer's gop majority in AZ because the committee d/n give repubs a comfortable enough majority in the state of AZ even though they GOT one, it still was not enough so fire the committee's chairperson anyway.
That and guaranteed mega-money that will be poured into this election that could pay for the American Jobs Act easily and feed every hungry person in the USA but that can't have that nonsense.

Go Ohio!!! You sent a resounding message that the American worker-ALL American workers s/b wanting what union workers have instead of villainizing them which is what the last 30 years of "supply side economics" has taught them to do instead of sticking up for themselves and not being slaves to their employers.

Wow, it went from deficits don't matter to how to fix the deficit!

Deficit is easily solved, make corporations pay their fair share! Stop giving them free rent! That's nationwide!

Of course, we know about common sense... it isn't very common.

"What round on the end and HI in the middle" OHIO!

That's a song that my husband, a native from Ohio taught our cherubs to sing when they were little!

Bet some of the Ohio folks reading this know the tune.

Hey Terry753375

Let's talk about TexASS

Perry's greatest accomplishments in Texas:
•A 34 billion dollar budget deficit
•Texas Ranks #1 in population living below the poverty line ( 18.4 % ).
•Worst environmental record in the United States
•Ranks #1 in illiteracy
•Ranks # 1 on the poorest gun regulations in the US and highest per capita gun murder rates in the US
•Ranks #1 with the highest real estate taxes per $1,000 value of a home in the United States
•Ranks #1 in the lowest high school graduation rate
•Ranks #1 with the highest interest rates “pay day” companies can charge
•Ranks # 1 in those making below minimum wage
•Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in Teacher Pay
•Ranks # 1 (26.5%) who lack health insurance
•Ranks # 1 (20.3%) of children who lack health insurance
•Ranks # 1 in the highest per capita executions in the world
•Ranks # 50th in $ spent for Medicaid for the poor and children
•Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in $ spent on its citizens
•Ranks # 1 in the # of food insecure children.
•Ranks 49th ( the 2nd lowest ) in Medicaid $ given to nursing homes
•Ranks 2nd highest in teen births
•Ranks #2 with the highest home insurance rates
•Ranks #2 with the highest sales tax
•Ranks 49th in $ funded for the mentally ill
•Ranks #1 with the highest overall pollution rate
•Ranks #1 in adults under correctional control
•Ranks #1 in adults under probation

Anna, you always put a smile on my face!

We can do this!!

I'm an Ohioan and I feel good!!! I didn't vote for Kasich and so much of what he's done I definitely didn't ask for.

Oh oh way to go Ohio!!!

Pay attention Rick Scott!!!

I'm singing it New Day, I'm singing it to James Brown, every time he sings I feel good, I sing OOO HIII OOO, I just walked in from a lecture gig and checked out the news, I fired up the music, I'm typing on the laptop, singing, and doing the white mans palsy dance, Mrs Grump thinks I have been drinking.

Would love to see it Forrest, and definitely something to be happy about! The tide is turning!'

Hi to Mrs. Grump.

Bosslimo when corporations have to pay higher taxes, how do they get money for paying those taxes? They raise prices on what they sell or service. Remember netflix? They tried raising prices and what happened to them? Their stock tanked. And what was the number one owner of their stock? Union and public pension plans. Stock took a 70% dip. Next when they raise prices what happens to their sales? Their sales go down. What happens to the workers? They get laid off. What happens to their disposable income? It goes down. Less taxes to the state government, bigger deficits.

I can see you really thought this through. Like most of you who voted for this repeal. Real smart people you are. Your state bonds are going to be degraded in quality. Most of you didn't even know that communities and states have to borrow money when there is a deficit and they have to pay interest on the bonds. And all bonds are rated. When a bond's rating goes down, the interest goes up and that takes a bigger chunk out of the state's income. Therefore less to pay employees and benefits. See the nasty web you weave.

Real smart solution there bosslimo. You should run for governor.

lastonehome

Woah! Who said anything about corporations paying higher taxes!?!

They don't pay any taxes and, in most cases, receive a rebate check, compliments of the taxpayers. So, they get free rent and a government check while the right wing propaganda spins the tale that "we are broke! What part of broke don't you under stand???" "Don't tax the job makers!!!" Although they haven't made any U.S. jobs in two years.

But lets go after the middle class to fund these corporate subsidies.

Let me just make sure I understand... Somebody else is now forced to pay my way through life and now I'm cheerful? I just won a huge victory? Yeah for me! Because I am completely incapable of life on my own. I need a public union to force politicians to tax my neighbors so I can live and call myself middleclass. I'm good to go and I feel really good about myself now. Thanks voters.

I wonder if Mr. Cain can explain this math to the Repubs?

When we say we are the 99%,...you really GRASP that concept at election time,...

Hard to beat that math without rigging the election,...and trust me, they are willing to try that next.

LOL you aren't even close to the "99%". Latest polls say you barely hit 30%.........stop trying to act like the stupidity of your platform is what 99% of us want. It's not.

the same list can be compiled about the shythole cesspool you live in witchking...do it yourself and smell what you are shoveling...interesting eh?

"the tide is turning"...hahaha...Virginia just voted in republicans to the tune of a new record...so many comedians , so little talent

The electorate is engaged, I am waiting for the divorce. Record home foreclosures on the horizon. Incomes are falling as good jobs and businesses are fleeing the state. Where is the great state of Ohio going to get the money to close the budget deficit?

Back from the top 1%, filthy rich CEO's, Wall St shareholders and hedgefund managers and the corporations who took all the tax breaks and giveaways all these years, that's where.

Sure and you know what they will do? They will leave Ohio. And what they had been paying in taxes you will have less of. Real smart teresa. You know there are several states that have no income tax or corporation tax. And you can have your office headquarters in those states and be liable for taxes in those states and have your business in another state?

Florida has no income tax or corporation tax. Such a smart girl, drive away the people and businesses in Ohio to other states and increase your own taxes. You should be joint governor with bosslimo.

Here's the Start of the Cuts that will be made Due the Failure of Issue #2 and the Taxpayers rejecting the School Levy for Westerville.Ohio

Westerville: The district faces $23 million in cuts next year that will include eliminating all sports and other extracurriculars, cutting about 175 teaching positions and reducing busing to state minimums. Officials also said they would end programs that go beyond a basic curriculum.

“We’ll be looking at state-minimum requirements,” said Kristine Robbins, president of Westerville’s school board

That would be well within someone's rights.

Yes, just remember it next time "you" choose to prevent "my" lung cancer

Not quite there Phea , They chose free will over subjugation .

You can't be both wealthy and affected. If you were for the measure, you are likely a wealthy individual, and can afford to send your kids to good schools etc. Therefore, the state's problems are technically not yours.

They chose a cyanide drip over heart surgery

Live free or die! I love this country! Thanks Ohio!

And if you seriously believe that, we have a bridge to sell you. Am awfully glad Ohio spoke up. Everyone is listening - I especially hope these god-awful republican governors are listening. You cannot win by crushing the middle class. We are done with that.

No, they chose to ignore people like your handlers in favor of common sense.

There is no Sense, common or otherwise, in choosing to burn down your house, just because you don't want to clean up after the party...well, as dirty as our (collectivley) house is...it might be a toss up...

I see you all are ecstatic that Ohio unemployment rose 80% between June and November. 300,000 unemployed in June and 550,000 unemployed in November and 9.1% unemployed and 20% underemployed.

Why did you people elect a governor to help with the almost 10 billion budget deficit and then repudiate his efforts to balance the budget. You are shooting yourself in the foot and running off at the mouth.

Everyone here seems to equate the 'middle class' with 'public tax-payer paid' employees. If that's true, you all have made a fatal mistake. You have made your neighbor your worst enemy who will have no choice but to seek to destroy you in order to save their own family. You are at war with your benefactor. Good luck with that. It's never worked in history, it's never worked in nature, there is no logical reason to believe that it will work. But it is your only hope, because unless people with money pay you, you will have to kill them. You will have to break the 10th commandment because you will have to admit that God doesn't fill your needs but somebody else who you can kill will meet your needs. Welcome to Greece my friends.

"I see you all are ecstatic that Ohio unemployment rose 80% between June and November"

Except that I checked the figures and it did absolutely no such thing. Half-wit. It was 8.8% in June and 9.1% in September, and no figures are actually available for November. And perhaps the reason for the SMALL increase was the governor laying off state workers.

The lefties are all for balancing a budget....just as long as it doesn't affect their ability to get free money or strong arm the government into giving them more money.....aka making people worth a damn give their money to people too lazy to flip a burger.

No they chose not to have the will of the arrogant jerk of governor they so unfortunately elected forced upon them. While he was giving himself and everyone around him all those raises, he was cutting to public servants who by the way make 3.5 percent less than the average private sector worker. Nice to have all those numbers the right wing debunked, none of what they have been saying has been true of those workers and Ohio stood up for their public servants, power to them for doing so.

Have fun going bankrupt, Ohio. Nothing like spending more while you're already in debt. It's the democrat way!

As soon as people choose to fight for their rights, they become liberal leechers? Why is that? Its like saying, If you have a job, you're a republican, if you lose your job, you become a democrat!

Let me clue you in, the down-trodden has no political afilliation. Let's see you lose your career-long job and remain unemployed for years and survive without help. Picture that big house you live in get repo-ed, that fancy car gone, and your life savings drained.

I guess you'll just pull up those ole boot straps and eat off the land you don't own.

Are these the same "downtrodden" who pay no taxes. but get federally funded welfare, housing, childcare, healthcare, foodstamps, etc.? Sign me up for being "downtrodden" then.

yup, ExxonMobile, Chevron, Occidental - all welfare queens,...they paid NO income tax last year AND recieved 30 Billion in 'subsidies',...all while maintaining the HIGHEST profits of their existence.

It's an outrage, isn't it? Those pitiful oil companies,...just barely eeking out an existence,...sign me up TOO.

You and the Democrats are the problem....financial reform isn't spending more money we don't have to artificially inflate employment numbers to look better before an election cycle. Health care reform without tort reform is useless. But Democrats can't see past their own nose.....much less years down the road to what their decisions mean for all of us.

Have fun going bankrupt, Ohio. You deserve it.

Now, maybe the republicans will extend a hand of compromise accross the isle. Instead of beating up on public employees and refusing to work with democrats on healthcare reform and financial reform, they should become part of the solution instead of just being "my way or the highway" obstructionists.

Sadly, I know that will NOT happen. Frankly, the time for compromise has come and gone. The olive tree was put out and they took it and threw it in the faces of people with common sense. They are nothing more than the anchor on the ocean floor keeping us from going anywhere. It's time to use their methods, say SCREW THEM and start getting things done because there are people out there that need help and have waited long enough.

Yes....how dare those mean old Republicans not let Obama and the rest of the lefties spend us further into debt so that you can continue to have more free money. Where do they get off??!?!

You forget you are the government. There is a $10 billion dollar budget deficit. How do you compromise to fix it? Higher taxes or less spending and more jobs lost?

Republicans today offered to eliminate mortgage deductions for 2nd mortages and their democrats slapped the hand away. While it was a very small offer at least the offer was made, what did democrats do.... they called them names for the effort, so who is the obstuctionist now....democrats are the obstructionists NOW.

Gee janet would that be the middle class they were hoping to have pay increased taxes? Same old, same old. Tax breaks for the RICH middle class gets the bill!

@janet, you have to be kidding, that was such a ridiculous offer by the Repubs.. Oh way to compromise lets eliminate the mortgage deductions on 2nd homes, when 1/2 of America, and certainly the young may not ever be able to buy one. Give me a break. Middle class is waking up, and the tide is turning blue.Thanks Ohio, I hope the rest of our nation can follow.

Nikiz.....like a typical liberal, you completely miss the point.

The point was, the people who have 2 homes are THE RICH you hate so much. They would then have to pay taxes they normally wouldn't have to.

But I'm sure you'll spin it as a slap in the face to those "poor" people with a second summer home.....

The whores are being banished from the temple. Ohio is only the beginning. I hope Gov. Walker in Wisconsin has alternate employment lined up. Oh yeah, he'll go to work for FUX.

And how do YOU plan to fix the budget deficit?

Easy you give public union workers really good retirements which the public is stuck paying for. When Ohio runs into budget problems they better not expect the rest of the country to bail them out!

Good job KY? Are you referring to the recent election? I hope your not comparing the re-election of a Democrat governor in KY to what happened in OH. I have lived here almost all my life and Beshear is what I like to call a republicrat, leaning just a little Democrat ideal wise. I really think he gets it. He knows he has to pay for what he spends. He seems to care about the people who work for him and the people he represents. He sold off unneeded state assets, furloughed (ie you don't get paid that day) state employees and cut salaries of some, including himself, to balance the budget or get as close as he could without having to lay off any OR raise taxes. I am middle middle class, a registered republican, and I voted for him. He IS doing what your governor was trying to do. Cut expenses, not jobs.

I don't live there so I don't know all the details. I do know that SOMEONE has to pay for all those employees and benefits and from the outside it sure doesn't look good on the job security front for alot of state employees there. Some of them are losing their jobs guaranteed. Most of our state employees that took pay cuts agreed that 90% of their pay was better than an unemployment check. They didn't like it, but it beats the alternative. SOMEONE is going to pay through the nose or another less pleasant orifice to pay for what you wanted there. The alternative is layoffs or outright releases for alot of state workers.

I know that several new factories are opening right here in my town in KY and in the surrounding areas of my town and I am fairly certain that tax incentives and "right to work" had a helluva lot to do with it, but you can do those things when you have the money in the bank to pay for it. Looks like you'll be spending borrowed money propping up something you can't pay for. Good luck with that, hope I'm wrong.

Don't compare our Governor here in KY to the typical tax and spend spend spend Democrat. THAT he is not, and is why he got my vote!

what ever makes you feel better James....

however you'd like to slice and dice it...in KY a Democrat won and a Teabagger did not

In Ohio Logic won out over a far right wing ideology

same in MS and Maine

There is a saying, put brain in gear before putting mouth in motion. Seems like most of the voters forgot to do that. Anyone of you brave new people have ideas how to reduce the "TEN BILLION DOLLAR STATE DEFICIT"?

last one home,

So only 10 months after Kasich took the office the debt
has grown by 2 billion dollars, up by over 25%.

WOW, what a great job John!!

You and other Ohio people didn't mind spending the money. You are just too ashamed to admit that you have no solution to the budget deficit. I have yet to see anyone say one word on how any of you are going to send one word to the politicians how to fix the problem.

It is like getting drunk at a wedding, lots of good wishes but absolutely no idea how long the marriage is going to last.

Okay mike, how are you going to reduce the $10 billion dollar deficit?

Okay mike, how are you going to reduce the $10 billion dollar deficit?

*wink wink*

It won't be on the backs of the working class....

Don't the working class pay taxes, too? How are the teachers, firemen and policemen paid? I thought it was with taxpayer money.

*wink wink*

It won't be on the backs of the working class....

*wink wink*

Yes, it will. Not all, but a majority of that deficit is due to entitlement programs meant to "help" the middle class....

Let it stand. Now you figure a way out of the mess you made! You got one less solution. The governor should resign and put in a democrat who you can hobble too.

I agree. I always find it so hypocritical when the Republicans want to legislate anything that threatens their way of life. Small government, small government. oops, don't want women to have the right to manage their own bodies, don't want the middle class to have collective bargaining, etc. Just heard that Mississippi voted down the Personhood law. Good for them and good for Ohio!

What utter and complete nonsense!!!!!!! Who the hell do you think are paying for all these extra benefits? YOUR NEIGHBORS! Now you go out and explain to everyone why you should tax them more so you can get extra benefits, they can't get.

In case you haven't noticed, fireman, teachers, and police are educated. If the neighbors are unhappy because the private sector is not giving them a fair shake, I suggest they do what they tell the Democrats:

Stop whining, get an education, and apply for the better job yourself.

And how are you going to fix the budget deficit?

You think that curbing collective bargaining rights in the state of Ohio will fix the nation's deficit? Give me a break.

You got $10 billion to cut, where do you plan to cut or raise taxes?

You want your taxes increased by what percentage to fix the deficit? 10% 20% 30% 40% You do know that the tax base is shrinking and if you increase taxes on businesses, they will leave Ohio in greater numbers?

So the answer is to further reduce the living standard of working people? Surely we can do better than that. Businesses locate in a state for many reasons other than tax structure. Otherwise, every business in the country would relocate to Wyoming and South Dakota.

I think that wages are the reason companies move overseas. We can price ourselves out of jobs if we aren't careful. I've never worked for a Union company but my parents did. I remember that peole who didn't do their jobs were able to stay employed just because they were Union. Seniority meant more than how they performed their jobs.

Simple economics your politicians artificially increased your living standards borrowing on the future. You deny that? Now it is time to pay the piper. Stop the cable tv subscription, that extra six pack, the cell phones, that movie down load service, more meatloaf and shorter vacations.

It is your government you didn't watch and now you want money to magically appear from where to pay for Ohio's last 10 years of overspending you didn't watch and slap the hands of the politicians.

You didn't bitch and moan then.

Really Linda in Texas, I thought you all seceded. Wages have been flat for 40 years. Jobs didn't seriouly start going overseas until the Republican Congress and President Clinton signed those trade treaties in the 90's, thats only 20 years. The way you bring them back to this country is a little thing called a TARIFF. We used to use them and it about time to start again. Its a simple formula: for every dollar that leaves this country that business has to pay a thousand dollars to sell that product here. Watch and see how fast those JOBS return.

Right on Sid.

Then in 2 minutes see if he's changed his position. LMAO

How much is the check for you are sending to the State of Ohio to help with the deficit?

Don't come crying to me, I live in Illinois and just got a 66% increase in my state taxes to pay for a bunch of teachers who won't increase the time they spend in the classroom. Teacher's unions in Illinois just refused to increase the amount of time each day they spend in the classroom. Illinois has one of the shortestest school days in the country, but the union won't allow teachers to increase the day. So much for looking out for the kids and their education. Oh did I mention the average teacher's salary in Illinois is over 80K a year?