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Subscribe to RSSWASHINGTON -- Without calling GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney or any of her other rivals by name, Republican presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann on Monday described others in the GOP field as "frugal socialists," adding that some are "confused" about their core beliefs on abortion, same sex marriage, and the "urgency" of repealing the Obama-passed health care law.
"Unfortunately for too many Republicans, they also aspire to be frugal socialists," Bachmann said in an address at the Family Research Council headquarters in Washington D.C., adding that "some" of the GOP candidates tolerate "socialized" medicine because of a flawed understanding of government that sheers too closely to the president's.
"We cannot preserve liberty for ourselves and our posterity if the choice in next November is between a frugal socialist and an out-of-control socialist," she said in a clear but unnamed reference to Romney.
Pressed by a reporter to identify exactly at whom she was leveling her charge, Bachmann demurred, replying against a soundtrack of giggles in the room: "You see, that's part of the puzzle that you figure out."
In an address heavily focused on the proper role of the federal government, Bachmann listed what she believes are cracks in the conservative philosophies of others in the presidential contest, labeling as "naive" those who would use executive orders to roll back the health are law (which Gov. Rick Perry has proposed), and pledging that there will be no "policy surprises" from her campaign (referencing flip-flops from the likes of Romney and Herman Cain.)
"I am far from a perfect person, but I know who I am and I will never deviate from the principles that I have fought for all of my life," she said.
Zeroing in on the issue of abortion rights, she also took anonymous aim at rivals Romney and Cain, whose past statements on the issue have been muddled in the eyes of some social conservatives.
"Some Republican candidates seem confused about what it means to be 100 percent pro-life," she said. "I am both personally and publicly pro-life and our candidate has to do more than just check the box on the issue of life."
While aiming most of her criticisms against the GOP rivals she refused to name, Bachmann also swiped at the current president, linking his political philosophy to the ongoing nationwide protest movement against the top percentage point of the nation's wealthy.
"He has been willing to engage during his presidency in a massive redistribution of wealth and in the politics of an 'Occupy Wall Street' envy to achieve his purposes," Bachmann said.
The Minnesota congresswoman charged that Obama's beliefs run counter to a basic tenet of Christianity. "The 10th Commandment teaches those shall not covet thy neighbor's goods," she said. "It's time to act on this self-evident truth."
She also offered particularly harsh words for the United Nations, which she called a "threat to the American family" due to its international standards for children's rights, and she called the threat of the institution of Sharia Law in the United States "an issue that Americans are rightly concerned about."
Bachmann travels today to South Carolina, where she will campaign before Wednesday's CNBC debate in Rochester, MI.
NBC's Jamie Novogrod contributed.
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The wild eyed (@@) MN ding bat strikes again!
Is Ms. Bachmann aware she is speaking before a 'hate group'?
Of course she does, it's called her base;
Isn't there some law that could put her away for 72 hours. She is absolutely batty!
I think the giggling part got me. That and the "you figure it out". Whoa! Light's on but nobody is home in that mind.
Oh my - I was just reading the economic outlook for Ill. It was bad before, but it looks like things have gotten way worse here recently.
You all elected a new governor, right?
So Ill. is in Cali type dire straights.
So what is it about being a doomed state that makes them also solid Obama supporters?
Cali., Ill. and NY - all hosed. All progressive paradises.
Interesting, right.
But gang, and here is the money part - we got us a governor MoonBeam that is now talking about 401k retirements plans for state workers.
Is this the begining of the end of Blue paradise here? And if here, then how long until pension reform comes to Ill. and others?
Hey phine.... if there is such a law you had better head for cover GF!
LOL. At least I am not running to be the leader of the free world. Imagine her with her finger on the button?
@Spanky
Unfortunately no. I think they will continue to vote blue as their only real hope of fiscal salvation is a federal bailout, and that is not going to happen with a Republican president.
This is what those opposed to Obama are trying to prevent in the future. Excessive government control!
Alan - good news is we are so damn broke there will be no further bailouts by any president.
Being broke sucks.
And presidentin' is hard.
They can
a) Borrow from Uncle Peking
b) Print it
c) Tax rich people a little more (although by this time they'll spent the same money 10 times over)
...and what about "Love your neighbor as yourself"? Maybe it's time to act on this "self-evident truth" as well, since this is one of the two most important commandments as identified by Jesus!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
Gotta love Bachmann. No hypocrisy here. Such steady consistency in her own positions.
Unlike Romney, for example, she is firm in her belief that the world began 6,000 years ago and the Pope is the anti-Christ. Except that she had to change churches when people found out about that Pope thingy.
And she's firm in her belief that people should not take money from the federal government. Except for running temporary foster homes for teenage girls with eating disorders, accepting Medicaid payments for undoing teh gay, and accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal farm subsidies.
And she believes steadfastly that public employment is bad. Except for those years during which she "infiltrated" the IRS as a tax lawyer in order to learn its secrets -- in other words, the years she learned how to cheat on her own taxes.
Ah, well, it's probably best not to be too persnickety about this.
As Emerson said,
Feisty - examine your premise - Because the He Man Woman Haters Club Calls me a Woman Lover doesn't make it so (even though it is)
I live in her district (and I apologize). She and her husband have bilked the fed government for 10s of thousands of dollars for their clinic designed to "cure" gay people despite her statements regarding big government payments for anything like this. She is a bigot, a dingbat and a waste of time. She has done nothing since she became a representative (call her on it) and that's after spending years as a lawyer going after accused tax cheats. Where is her head? Why would any sane person even listen to her? I certainly don't and I hope she is to busy trying to be president (never happen) to run for her house of representatives seat. Do us all a favor and gag yourself.
She's no longer in the running for President ..... but still in the running for a book deal, a student of the Sarah Palin System, and Tom ############ your aplolgy is not accepted lol. TERM LIMITS is the only solution to these kinds of idiots being allowed to fool enough people to get elected to the House of Representatives or anything for that matter.
I'm glad Bachmann brought up the 10th Commandment. What woud Jesus say about designed tofail securities that fleece people out of hard eneaned money.?And Bachmann won't apporipriate funds to allow SEC secirites investigations to prevent that. If she really believes that why did she accept campaign contributions fron Denny Hecker- an outo magnate convicted of fraud andTom Petters also convicted of fraud. Why did she write a letter orrecommendation for one of Petter's right hand man who was covicted of a felony? The fellow went onthe commit more cirmes.
You have to more than talk about the10th Commandement ,Michelle.
Where is Michelle with today'snew that HermanCain attepted to grab a women's genitals, even when he knew and had met the woman's boy firend. Would she apply the 10th Commandment here? Or will she maintain her stoic silence.
If she does that become a silent endorsemnt of Cain's behaiviour.
Wjhat about Oklahoma and Louisiana's pension issues there Spanky (Or West VA's, or Kentucky's or...you get the picture)? And maybe you meant New jersey instead of NY, NY is doing pretty well for being a "Progressive Paradise", relative to the rest of the country.
To better understand why Romney can’t get his poll numbers out of the mid 20’s all you need to do is read this article from Politco.com that talks about the people he is hiring including 3 former Bush-era officials whose recent records include lobbying for Solyndra and advocating on behalf of cap-and-trade legislation and carbon taxes.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67110.html
Don't you think Romney will be a better general election candidate than a primary one?
You think his moderate stance will hurt him in the Lean GOP or Toss-ups? I think he'll play well in MN, NJ and OR (although I don't think he'll win NJ). CT and WA will be interesting though.
If the economy is still bad, and people will remember that Obama got the stimulus he wanted and the economy didn't improve enough, then independents and moderates will look at the alternative. And compared to other potential alternatives Romney is definitely the strongest candidate.
Where do the other 117 electoral votes fall? I assume they are “likely GOP”.
At a year out it certainly appears that the Republicans have the edge but since they have no truly inspirational candidate I think we will have to wait another 5 or 6 months to see a more realistic picture of next November.
Maybe why Romney's poll numbers can't get out of the mid 20's is because people are aware he is a habitual lying phony who has no need for anyone that is not a greed driven unethical robber baron corporate type, silver spoon Mitt has nothing to offer working Americans, hell he got rich beating working Americans out of their jobs, you really think people don't know the "real" Mitt?
They are solid GOP/Democratic. It's from First Read / First Thoughts.
Inspirational? I'll take competent.
And the first responder is the wild mouthed ding bat from a truck stop in Illinois!
The wild eyed ding bat is from Minnesota. How anyone can take Bachmann seriously is beyond the comprehension of a sane person.
phinephancy, I believe Steve was referring to the redwig dingbat, not the other one, lol!
Hey, having never seen Feisty in person I have no idea about her eyes. But I HAVE seen good old Michelle. She is definitely wild eyed.
You have to explain those sorts of things, Bill... you see good old phinephancy is not all that quick...
(show me the clown nose, fisty!)
Nay, being dimwitted is a GOP trait.
LOL!
Nice comeback there phine... HAHAHAAHAHH!
Ah, the folks on the right are so very predictable. Going to get my popcorn and watch you all eat your own.
SOTB, Just like children, we must hold the hands of liberals and gently point them in the right direction.....
well, track 3 certainly was a depressing little dead end!
The Minnesota congresswoman charged that Obama's beliefs run counter to a basic tenet of Christianity. "The 10th Commandment teaches those shall not covet thy neighbor's goods," she said. "It's time to act on this self-evident truth."
Interesting observation. Liberal class warfare to "tax the rich" is nothing less than feeding on people's baser instincts of envy and jealousy.
Yeo. That Jesus dude was all wrong about caring for the poor.
Amazing how the holier than thou right wing fringe continues to try to re write the ministry of Jesus Christ. It is always true: those that promote themselves as being more Christian than Christ Himself are the ones that rob the poor for the benefit of the rich. And they don't even have the good sense to be embarrassed by their hypocrisy.
See, "teabaggers", the people the Jesus chased out of the temple were an early version of YOU!
Phine - Yeah, and healing the sick? What a pinko commie Jesus was.
And all that talk about needles and camels totally underestimates the hugeness of the needles of yesterday and how much larger today's camels are due to evolution.
Whoops! Did I say evolution? Excuse me for a moment as I need to go to the bathroom and whip my back bloody.
Conservatives give more of their time and money voluntarily to help those in need, than liberals.
That is the true teaching of religion, not to raise taxes for useless bureacracy. Individual responsibility for one's self and neighbors.
Washington , DC , is not the Kingdom of God.
LOL
See, "teabaggers", the people the Jesus chased out of the temple were an early version of YOU
Ahhh.....yes those damn teabaggers. Check out the link of the elderly women pushed down a set of concrete stairs.
Had this been committed by those "teabaggers" it would be on the news 24/7 and the movement would be vilifiied out of existance but no this elderly lady was pushed by occupiers so you won't see the video hitting the mainstream news any time soon.
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/06/uber-classy-occupy-d-c-goons-push-elderly-woman-attending-conservative-dinner-down-the-stairs/
That is the true teaching of religion, not to raise taxes for useless bureacracy. Individual responsibility for one's self and neighbors.
What dark recess of America's political digestive track did you finger that out of?
You must pray to the baby Jeezus that likes NASCAR and has a mullet. Really, that is pathetic.
I don't know Rob, I seem to recall a group of teabaggers waffle-stomping a 90 pound woman into a curb. And I remember a teabagger punching a woman in the face too.
At least the teabaggers weren't stupid enough to bring assault rifles to political events...
Oh you mean the lefty radical wearing a disguise that rushed a congressional nominee and his security team? That women?? I think that's a far different story.
And please nisl tell me how many rapes and sexual assaults have occurred during tea party protests.
Oh Rob (I know, sounds like the Dick Van Dyke Show). You are so very cute when you get upset. Face it, the tea party is on the way out. Folks are figuring out that they are nuts. Just check out all the candidates that showed up for the Florida tea party convention over the weekend. Who came? None. Not one candidate showed up. But you just hang right in there, okay.
Rob - I don't know about at events, seeing as how the tactics of the teabaggers differ from OWS. The teabaggers tended to hop busses (paid for by the Koch brothers) and go on day trips. They didn't camp out (camping with an oxygen tank and scooter is problematic.)
But lord knows there has been plenty of teabagger violence. Charles Alen Dyer comes to mind. Dyer was a featured teabagger speaker from Oklahoma. He is also and alleged rapist and thief who's goal was to become a domestic terrorist.
Being called a "Frugal Socialist" would be considered a compliment by most reasonable people. Being called a "Capitalist Pig" would be much more offensive to anyone except a "Capitalist Pig". Suck it
Conservative right wing LUNATICS, in their quiet self-reflective moments (assuming any of them actually have such moments), know Obama isn't really a Socialist. The Republicons gimmick of calling him that brings them back the glory days of Fascist Conservative red-baiting. "Communist" is their bottom line name-call, the one it feels best to them to use.
When Repukes accuse me of socialism, I now say, "And being a Fascist like you is better?"
Bob#### I do believe the reverse has actually happened. I do believe that the super rich covet everything, their greed knows no bounds. And it shows everyday in every way.
Raab...you can come up with a better "news" source than "weaselzippers", can't you?
...here's your sign...
I hate the way MSNBC is spinning why rape vitctims don't come forward like no one out there in their listening world can understand why they ( the rape or sexual abused) doesn't speak up. Well you 'just don't understand'.
Raped women & men who are sexually abused or raped lose their integrity, their self worth, feel like scum & are not worthy of voice. Please be more sensitive to those who have been or are dealing with the aftermath of rape or abuse. The way you are spinning makes them feel worse than they already feel.
Shirley
BOB#######, of course you have the statistics to back that statement up??????? Not sure that you actually have to declare your political affiliation prior to making a charitable donation or volunteering for community work.....do you?
That is a statment straight out of the Rove Handbook.
If she's going to apply Christian tenets to politics, she really needs to start with "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Think Jesus was waging class warfare?
Matthew 19:24
So lets take all their wealth and guarantee their path to heaven!
(OMG... what dorks!)
BTW...
Based upon your quote looks like Pres. Yomama will have a tough path to heaven... not to mention all of his cronies. Oh yeah... and all those rich liberal guys like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and poor old Steve Jobs... wonder where he is right now...
(show me the clown nose, fisty!)
Amy, do you take that Bible verse to mean that a rich person's wealth should be confiscated by an all powerful dictatorial government?
Jesus was not a Big Government Socialist.
Actually, Frances Bellamy, the author of the Pledge of Allegiance, believed that Jesus was a Socialist and wrote a sermon about it. But, I bet you still say that Pledge every chance you get! ; o
Jesus was not a Big Government Socialist.
And he wasn't a Republican either.
He was also anti-government... just ask the Romans!
Jesus would be considered a liberal
"Render unto Caesar..."
God gets elected President. Republicans/teabag party leaders ask What we end first Gay marriage? or Abortion? God answers "Feed the poor." "Heal the sick." The republicans/teabag party leaders cry "Socialist!"
Actually, I think I maybe looking at this all wrong. I should just pop some popcorn and watch all the little candidates of the GOP/TP tear each other apart. Like on a reality tv show. The Real Housewives, er Candidates, of the GOP.
The US Geological Survey reported seismic activity today in the area of Simi Valley. The activity appears to have been caused by the corpse of Ronald Reagan rolling in his grave as the "11th Commandment" has once again been violated.
Just do what I plan on doing, sit back and enjoy the show as they eat each other alive. More fun and less stress than actually taking these yo yo's seriously.
Leave Michelle alone!! crazy people deserve representation too!!
Would someone please explain to michelle that the constitution of the US guarantees the right to be a Bogey man socialist if one chooses. Just as it does her quasi fascist belief to be in your bedroom.
The GOP does not hate women in particular. They hate everybody who is not rich, which necessarily includes un-rich women. The un-rich are somehow defective and always beneath contempt. Old, young, boy, girl, woman, man -- not rich? -- you're just a grasping undeserving peasant. Not rich? You have failed to take personal responsibility, no handouts for you, and kindly stop trying to appeal to those rocks where there should be hearts and brains. Women are merely collateral damage in the GOP's war on the un-rich.
@Jimee - agreed. And the sad part is that the Republicans would have us believe that it is only the Democrats who are out of work, only the Democrats that are poor, only the Democrats that need healthcare. That's what's so scary is that they have embedded in the hearts and minds of Republicans that they really are rich, really are important, really are not poor, really are given complete healthcare. I know that is not true. I know my neighbors who have been laid off are both Republican and Democrat. That some now need medicaid, that some have lost their homes, that some need food stamps - Republicans and Democrats. But for some reason, they have brainwashed them into believing that the more that is given away to the rich, the more will trickle down to them. What I want to know is how they really get them to believe that crap?
I m starting a new pac . homosexuals and lesbians for Michelle, please send money
When will the GOP and politicians like Bachmann realize their extreme positions on abortion are not shared by the public at large. This abortion debate is getting old. We've been debating it for thirty eight years and nothings changed. Conservatives rail about freedom, yet they want the government to have a say in a personal decision between a woman and her doctor. It's time to end this debate and move on to important issues.
Why is the bankruptcy of the U.S. NOT important to Democrats/liberals?
Instead there are hundreds of articles here about every word uttered by people like M.Bachmann.
Harry Reid says "it's foolish to have a budget."
Is the man high on something? Talk about incompetency!
After reading all the crap on these pages about how the socialists are taking over the country and that the poor are poor cause their lazy , I think I'll just go smoke some illegal weed and make my headache go away !!
Does anybody remember when Michelle was leading in Iowa and running very well nationwide? That fact alone makes me wonder if the Teabaggers aren't some form of a cruel joke. Obamacare, as she refers to it, is A COMPLETELY PRIVATE PROGRAM. It is in many ways more conservative than the plan outlined by NIXON in the early 70's. But little facts like that don't bother Bats---. She just keeps on blabbering nonsense. Everybody is a socialist. I find it humorous that she cites the Biblical commandment about not coveting. I haven't heard her talking about Christ's teaching on the difficulities of the rich making it to heaven, or the widow's mite, or Matthew 25, or the prodigal son, or any of the basic tenets of her own religion which involve love, charity, mercy, and forgiveness. She doesn't understand her own religion. But that is not unusual among Southern and Midwestern fundamentalists. Many of them are full of resentment and selfishness. And many are so convinced of their own theology, that they cannot conceive of different opinions. I hope her husband is not wrestling with homosexuality. It is very sad if he settled for her in some misguided belief she can assist his salvation. She is one big thundercloud of negative energy.
time for backman to go back to here parasitcal govt dole life
this turd is a loser as are all the right wing scum you have running
I made 5 million $ why should you bums get any. I worked hard and invested now I (not you ) reap what I earned! I will no longer donate either to organizations that support in any way the Idiot losers of OWS. And yes if I owned a company and had employees involved in any way of OWS they would be laid off and never recalled.
We are so happy you made your $5M. No OWS bums want your money, except for that portion of "your" money that should be paid in the form of taxes for those silly things such as defense, which protects you and your millions, roads that you use, and other public infrastructure. The good news is that you don't own a company, because you would be out of your millions with all the wrongful termination lawsuits.
It's time for Mr Bachman to use her willingness to obey her husband and tell her to shut up and stand two steps behind him and to his right as he leads her back to the farm to shovel animal droppings.
*Ray-402*
While disliking Michelle Buchmann's politics is your perogative, in fact, most people disagree with her even those in the republician party. Please keep in mind that we are living in the 21st century, and most women don't appreciate the idea of walking behind a man. If it is bad for one to be treaed that way, than it is bad to treat any woman that way. Lol! I don't mean to lecture you, but I just though it would be helpful to share my perspective with you. This is the age of the women. They are well educated, professionals, hard working, etc. They are even serving in the special forces now. In spite of all that, they are still sweet and lovely, mom's, sister's, daughter's, grandmom's and deserve to be treated special. Look at President Obama's wife...She was his boss and Hillary was largey responsible for Bill Clinton getting elected. I though that both of the Bush first ladies were great, but I didn't like the bush's policies.
TruthBeingTold: He was being sarcastic. You see, there are stories in the bible that say a woman should be subservient to her husband. Mrs. Bachmann is always professing her Christianity, however she chooses to be in politics. The bible says to "be in the world, but not of it". There are many stories in the bible that Mrs. Bachmann chooses to ignore. She recently said that if you don't work, you should not eat! She doesn't realize that it is very difficult for some people to find a job these days. Why this woman gets any attention at all is a mystery to me.
There are far too many Americans who dismiss misogyny in this country as a non issue. Although the GOP's response does not surprise me I have seen it on both sides of this two party one agenda system that is quite frankly gone beyond corrupt.
"Bitchy Bachmann" has no morals, common sense, no intellectual ability, no social policy sanity, no foreign policy experience, and no clue of what to do. She should just get back on her "Special" Blue Bus, and go home. "Bitchy Bachmann" is a "Bonehead Birther," and she has no ability to comprehend what is read or said to her. She poltically smells of rotten tea bags, and she needs to get out of her distrurbing clown outfit. The circus music keeps playing over and over in her "echo chamber" of a hollow mind. Getting ready to vote yet America?? I hope so!
Nice try Michelle, but you are done.
The more Bachmann criticizes Romney, the more I would consider voting for him.
re: So what is it about being a doomed state that makes them also solid Obama supporters?
Cali., Ill. and NY - all hosed. All progressive paradises.
^ Well we can't all be Alabama can we?
Is intelligence a bad thing to the G.O.P.? Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are intelligent, and yet the idiots get all the attention.
mike in pcb- They elected Bush. What's that about intelligence?
Somewhere in the bowels of hell (Texas) Satan gives birth to people like Michelle Bachmann. He then sends them to earth to try and ruin peoples lives. Anyone who would follow Bachmann should be aware she is born of the Evil Ones - The Koch Bros. Her brother from another mother was Sarah Palin.