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Subscribe to RSSThe National Restaurant Association for the first time publicly acknowledged today that it settled with a former employee who accused Herman Cain, then head of the association, of sexual harassment.
It also released the woman from the confidentiality clause of the agreement, if she so chooses to speak. But her lawyer, who spoke in a televised news conference today, said she no longer wishes to do so.
"Based upon the information currently available, we can confirm that more than a decade ago, in July 1999, Mr. Bennett's client filed a formal internal complaint, in accordance with the Association's existing policies prohibiting discrimination and harassment,” the association’s statement reads, in part.
The statement goes on to note, “Cain disputed the allegations” and the restaurant association and the worker settled “without any admission of liability."
The lawyer, Joel P. Bennett, had requested his client be released from the confidentiality agreement because, he believed Cain had violated it with comments made regarding his client’s work performance. His client had indicated earlier in the week that she did want to speak, but has since said she does not, Bennett said.
A First Read review of federal election filings finds Cain ended his previous short-lived presidential bid in 1999 the same month as the harassment complaint was filed. "Cain for President" filed for termination on July 15, 1999 (in a letter dated July 14), as part of Cain's July Quarterly report.
Cain did not appear to be a serious candidate at the time. He was not well known on a national stage and had only raised $28,537.43, according to FEC filings. Cain's treasurer at the time, W. Reed Samson, noted in the 1999 July Quarterly filing that Cain "ended all campaign activity" prior to June 30, 1999.
Bennett told reporters Friday that because multiple women have made accusations against Cain that there must be some truth to the allegations.
"There's an expression: where there's smoke, there's fire,” Bennett said. “The fact that there are multiple complaints tells me that it is more likely than not that there was some sexual harassment activity by this man at that time… the fact that there's more than one complaint is meaningful."
Bennett called Cain’s claims that the resolution was a severance agreement and not a legal settlement an “inaccurate description of the settlement agreement."
"This was a settlement of an internal complaint of sexual harassment,” Bennett said. “It was not a severance agreement."
Bennett also said there had been “more than one” incident of sexual harassment involving his client, and that Cain was made aware of all the incidents in the internal complaint filed in 1999.
"Mr. Cain knows the specific incidents that were alleged,” Bennett said. “My client filed a written complaint in 1999 against him specifically, and it had very specific incidents in it, and if he chooses to not remember or not acknowledge those that's his issue."
He said the complaints were settled with a “monetary settlement” but did not elaborate on how much his client received or on the details of the allegations. He said his client doesn’t want to be a “public figure” and doesn’t want to discuss the issue further.
“She and her husband see no value in revisiting this matter now nor in discussing the matter any further publicly or privately,” Bennett said.
The Cain campaign, which said in a press release earlier today that it has raised more than $1 million since the story broke Sunday, told NBC’s Andrew Rafferty it would like to move on.
"We look forward to focusing our attention on the real issues impacting this country,” said Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon, “like fixing this broken economy and putting Americans back to work through our 9-9-9 Plan, as well as strengthening national security."
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This is what happens when you let your campaign manager smoke in the office Hermie...
Suck it up buckaroo - even Smokey the Bear can't save your sorry ass!
The person took the $$$ and now doesn't want to talk about it?
The Cain haters can't spin this one
It also released the woman from the confidentiality clause of the agreement, if she so chooses to speak. But her lawyer, who spoke in a televised news conference today, said she no longer wishes to do so.
In other words, she has been told that she speaks, she will get sued and have to pay back the money -with interest-
If she is middle class or poor to begin with, she has no choice but remain silent. She found out that in politics there is nobody to catch you when you fall. You are on your own.
No need for anyone to spin anything. As the lawyer said, "Where there smoke, there's fire." And we know from Herman's campaign ad how he likes smoke.
Not sure how the "journalistic geniuses" at First Read could have missed it -- shocker -- but they somehow failed to note that Cain had already moved on to be the national co-chair of the Steve Forbes campaign in JUNE 1999. That's well before this woman claimed Cain harassed her. That's right, Cain was long gone from the NRA by the time the woman filed claims of a "hostile workplace" (July 1999) and left the company (Sept 1999). Yet, not a question from First Read about the questionable timing of the claims.
You don't pay when you have done nothing. He is just too full of himself for my take. It usually is power that inebriates the soul and befuddles the mind.
IRESPOND, she is a married spokeswoman for a federal agency. Chances are good that she's closer to the 1% than the bottom 50%.
The story here is not about the charges ... these days you can bring charges for anything!!!
We were lucky enough to see how the REAL Cain handles these types of situations. It was not pretty and no one can say it was. One evasive tactic after another surrounded by lapses in memory which leaned towards lies ... all with a false sense of arrogance and bravado!!!
The man is not stable enough to run the country ... simple as that!
If he goes on to make a little extra money from his 15 min. ... more power to him!!!
Feisty says .....
Funny, but that statement isn't necessarily true.
You previously mentioned having to serve pigeon for Thanksgiving. Ever burn the pigeon, have a lot of smoke in the kitchen .... was the pigeon on fire?
Point is sexual harassment is defined as (from wiki) "intimidation, bullying or coercion of a sexual nature, or the unwelcome or inappropriate promise of rewards in exchange for sexual favors. .... It includes a range of behavior from seemingly mild transgressions and annoyances to actual sexual abuse or sexual assault."
So what did Cain do supposedly 12-15 years ago?
Was it merely an annoyance?
One "anonymous" person who won't reveal any detail, who didn't even file an EEOC harassment complaint? Another "anonymous" person who can't find her complaint, with attorney that can't find their copy either? A third "anonymous" person who was harassed and is thinking about filing a complaint ......12-15 YEARS LATE?
Was it severance or settlement?
Did she continue to work there?
Most reasonable people would give the benefit of doubt and wait and see, or assume a mild transgression at worst and wait see.
Not libbies.
Nope, FR runs, literally 25-30 stories IN ONE WEEK!
Funny how Juanita Broaddrick signed a sworn affadavit stating that Clinton RAPED HER and .... what 3-4 national stories?
Kathleen Willey claimed not harassment, but sexual assault. Paula Jones .... by definition sexual harassment.
FR and Feisty - Ignore the smoke from that old forrest fire and just keep blowing on the little stick your spinning on the rock ....
As Spanks says .....
Libs are amusing.
I really have no interest in Cain's sexual antics any more than I did for Clinton but I do hope Cain gets the nomination. Just let him keep doing what he's doing and Obama will have another 4 years.
Booby - put down your Scotch & ketchup packets and step away from the keyboard!
At this point your ravings are embarrassing even me, the die hard liberal!
Friendly tip; It truly is painful to watch you make an ass out of yourself!
Well not really - today is no different then any other!
As I sit here and LMFAO@U! ;o)
I am wondering if someone didn't offer this woman more money if she doesn't tell her story??
[As Spanks says .....Libs are amusing.]
That's because Spanky's ignorant...
There's another old saying that comes to mind. "Where there's BS, there is a bad stink" and this whole anonymous accuser business smells to high heaven. If you're going to make this kind of accusation, then you had better back it up publicly or else the whole thing is liable to backfire it it ever gets out that it's a setup.
Cain isn't my guy, but this is just plain dirty politics. At least have the decency to judge him based on his platform rather than vague, unsubstantiated allegations.
The woman involved is not running for any office and was not the person responsible for this information coming to light. This was an internal issue in the NRA and was made public by a journalist. Records are records.
As to his platform, what would that be?
I wonder if sexual harassment claims will now go up in the US due to the news stories on this.
Case in point: A news story interviewed a lawyer who deals with sexual harassment cases in the Corporate world as her primary field of law. She was asked about if $45,000 was a lot of money. She said that to companies like GM, Burger Kings, the NRA, and large organizations, that the litigation involved if the company wants to fight or dispute a sexual harassment charge, well, it costs on average a quarter of a million dollars (that's $250,000 for those that want to compare zeros) and then there is no guarantee that the company will win or even if they did, they are out $250,000 unless they can get a judgement for the plaintiff to pay.
So, as a lawyer, she said that standard policy is to settle out of court because settling for $45,000 is a lot easier than paying out $250,000 in litigation fees. It makes sense when you think about it.
Moral of the story (which lacks morals): If you want to make a quick $45,000, then go accuse a large company of sexual harassment. They will probably terminate you as a condition of the settlement but you walk away with $45,000 and can still use that money to find another job or can take a nice vacation.
Moral of the Moral of the Story: The United States needs tort reform and a loser pays system to stop frivolous lawsuits. (Note: This is not a comment about the case in question for the article involving Mr. Cain but a commentary on the broken legal system in the United States.)
On the bright side, now Mr Cain is in Bill Clinton territory, well, not lying under oath, but certainly doing something that was a no no... and yes, I know the difference, but honestly, the Pres of the US has a pretty big shadow vs an intern.
Anyway, this is encouraging - if Mr Cain is anything like Pres Clinton he'll make a hell of a President! So far, so good...
The underlieing issue here is that Cain is lieing.We have enogh liars in politics already.
PAUL,,,Yes,Cain would make a great president, and ted,,in your eyes if lieing is a virture, no wonder you put your prophet hussain obama on a pedestal! Besides spending more money then all the other presidents COMBINED, tHAT PUKE HAS LIED MORE THEN ALL THE PAST PRESIDENTS COMBINED!!!!
Very interesting - the lady who made the complaint has chosen not to speak out at this time. I can see two possible reasons for this: 1) she is now a very well off person because of a large, unexpected gift to her from Cain's promoters, 2) should Cane become the nominee this will again become an issue and she will find her voice.
thunder, cain is nothing more then a used car sales man, no more. How ever I do find it funny President Obama, is being brought up on this page. He didn't molest, any women, he has only shown what a great Father he is. And he is also not Clinton either. Oh and nice try with the prophet crap, but it is a lie, just another lie.
jrs you are just funny, you a NY lawyer for the big banks. Oh the small settlement were just shut up monies. So they are also part of the cosra nostra, you know and I know this type of action normally is because the COE was behaven like a Master of the old day. This man child did it and there is no way around it, He did it.
Fishinfool555
I believe it came out in the public, and she don't have to make anything in public. and I will bet you the Cain campaign will not fill a liable suit against any of them. You can not sue any one for telling the truth.
To all of the Cain backer, Good luck! He is going down and he would never get elected, dogcatcher, not alone President. I will even bet he will not make it at all. remember he is a Koch Brother from anther mother, he was the butler. "ohhh"
gone!
I would ten times rather be suspected of propositioning women than to be, without a doubt, the most harmful, unamerican person to ever "occupy" the white house! (get it, Occupy, how appropriate) How odd you mentioned a dog catcher, because I blog all over the globe, and I;ve seen hundreds of references of obammi not being qualified for holding a "dog catchers "job! obammi IS the typical "used car salesman", crooked to the bone and an American hater, a progressive subversive who seeks to make all useless mooches in America just like himself, able to live well off other working folks, yet , never work a day in his life! Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when we need him?
I don't blame this lady for not wanting to make herself known to the public. It happened ten years ago and her life would become an unbearable media circus if she came out now. There have now been six women who have claimed that Cain made unwanted sexual advances to him. There was even a male reporter who has said he witnessed first hand Cain in actionusing innapropriate behavior with women. The man is an arrogant womanizer.
Hey it was okay for Bill "I cant keep it in my Pants" Clinton to womanize while in the Arkansas Governors Mansion and while in the White house then LIE BEFORE CONGRESS. Whats the big deal about Cain's alleged harassment charges as a civilian male? There has been NO proof released just a bunch of mystery women who claim this or that ..how many are paid shrills?
Really? You conveniently forget what has happened to women in the past who have spoken up about a politician. Their lives are turned into a circus and unless they have a perfectly spotless past, they are made out to be sluts with everyone standing in judgment over their private lives. Who would put themselves through that after observing what the media did to other women?
By taking the money, she is under no obligation to speak -- to the contrary. The original agreement was a monetary settlement that enforced silence -- a condition that ought to be illegal.
Anyone who doesn't realize this man is total scum has serious issues.
hehe...you're incorrigible,Feisty...
I never said in my post it was ok for Clinton or anyone else to womanize. Politicians on both sides have been guilty of womanizing for decades. Six, what you call mystery women, who have made sexual harrasment claims about Cain ten years ago speaks volumes.
Newsvine is attempting to raise the level of discourse on these posts. At least that's what they tell me. However, until they censure Old Lady Feisty, I will not believe one word of it. A more vulgar, repulsive human being (I think) does not exist.
Cain + Hat = Pimp, Herman + Rotten Pizza = Teatards, Herman + Cain = Dumb as Dirt. End of big story.
It is bizarre to see so many people defending a cholesterol pimp who is so obviously lying about what he did with these women, and so obviously dumb in his policy statements. The presidential race is a circus that the media and politicians milk for money. Cain is a good freak show. But those who defend him have to ask themselves, why am I so attracted to this trainwreck, so passionate about a fool, so defensive and weird??!!
GBS: Why does this woman have to identify herself? You and your ilk wouldn't believe her anyway and Cain would continue to deny and tell everyone to "move on". In return she'd get attacked undoubtedly about whether she's attractive enough to be worth the trouble, whether she'd had enough boyfriends, whether she was too sexy or not sexy enough. Meanwhile Cain's so called campaign would be long gone and he'll be a footnote in history. The association confirms there was a payout, refuting Cain's denials at the very group he headed. Unlike Cain's most ardent supporters, most folks say that gives them pause. 3 separate allegations of sex harrassment, two involving loss of job and payout for promised silence. While you enjoy your man-crush, Mr. Cain will be shortly deemed irrelevant. All three women in question were smart to see the obvious. Identifying themselves only means they'd be hounded, harrassed and ridiculed for years for having dared to defend themselves. Yeah. Right. Who wouldn't want that?
AmericanDreams: "NO big deal"???? Clinton was brought up on impeachment charges, wasted more than half of his second term and faced national and international ridicule. I'd say it was a very big deal for having sex with a WILLING partner.
"At least have the decency to judge him based on his platform rather than vague, unsubstantiated allegations."
Okay, the Republicans love him because he wants to shift more of the tax burden from the rich to the poor and middle class. The Democrats love him because he is doing more to get Obama re-elected than Obama is.
As for the facts:
1) He first denied any knowledge of a sexual harassment suit.
2) Next he admitted knowing, but said the person received a "couple of months pay" in compensation. In reality the person received a full year’s wages.
What I see is a very bad liar. No company pays out that kind of money without there being something to the allegations.
Okay Obama haters, you say he lies... and here we have a Republican Candidate that is clearly a liar. too funny.
Well the liberal racists have been covert for 50 years, not they are overt again. I guess they long for the good old days of George Wallace, Robert Byrd, and the KKK.
Anybody who knows anything about corporations knows that a settlement this small is just nuesance abatement. Real harrassment carrys a six figure price tag not five. Whoever said "You don't pay when you have done nothing." is a liar. Companies pay off people all the time. $10,000 payoff or $50,000 court fight = no brainer.
Of course, what hasn't come out yet is information on this Bennett guy. It's clear that he's not just your average Joe attorney. The sure money is that he is a dem political activist.
getaclue: It appears that you don't live in the real world. Money is paid out all the time when there is nothing to the allegations. Why? Simple, it's cheaper to settle things a lot of times than it is to fight. Trial lawyers know this and that is why they take on nebulous claims.
I'm sure if I find out something that happened to you 12 years ago, that wasn't something that struck you as being really important, you're initial reaction would be to scratch your head and go huh? Maybe after a period of time and thinking about it you might later admit that it might have happened. That's the nature of memories. But, since you seem to want to condemn Cain for this, you might want to condemn Obama even more. We've all seen the vitriol espoused by Obama spiritual guide, Jeremiah Wright. Yet, Obama denies having heard any of it. Now that is lying, which if you are consistent, you would condemn from the mountain tops! But, being a good little lib, only conservs are to be condemned for not being perfect.
That fact is that people, except extreme libs, are more concerned about the lies and destruction of our current president. He lied about all those shovel ready jobs and what would happen to the nearly $1 trillion Congress gave him to spend to boost the economy. He's lied about his current "jobs" bill. Heck, I've yet to hear from anyone even here as to how his bill would create any jobs. The reason is that it isn't a jobs bill at all. It is a tax the rich bill and buy votes of the teacher's union bill.
AP, the impeachment charges had nothing to do with having sex with an intern in a government facility. The hearings were about the sex but then he lied to Congress. Regardless of consent, regardless of party, lying to Congress is still illegal. Do I think the Republicans should have gone after Clinton the way they did? No, I think as the story broke it would have been better for public opinion to sort it out. About Clinton facing national and international ridicule, it is his own fault. He has no one else to blame for that.
I do find it interesting all last week the woman was DEMANDING she be released from her confidentiality agreement, now that she has, she wants to remain private and not talk. So it's anonymous women making unsubstantiated claims. The only person you can believe is the person doing the talking, to date that still remains Cain. Until the women choose to come forward, it's a bunch of conjecture for political gain. If I thought there was validity to the charges, then Cain shouldn't be running for office.
GBS Tower - You must a screw loose. Why is woman in any way obligated to speak of something which occurred over a decade ago? Her refusal to speak neither strengthens nor weakens the creditability of the story. The Restaurant Association has already confirmed payment of the compensation. What more do you want, lurid details? And whose words would you trust?
Choosing not to speak is a whole lot different than not having anything to say. Perhaps she figured that the charges were valid enough for a settlement that was all the statement that needed to be made.
Floyd,
I'm thinking she got a phone call from Ginny Thomas! ;o)
BTW It's still 8-5 and pick 'em that Rove did it. If it looks like a Turdblossom and smells like a Turdblossom by God I think it is a Turdblossom there Betty.
Makes you wonder how much more silence the Cain and Koch team purchased. Benefit of the doubt, I'm thinking she realizes that if her identity is known, not only will the media hound her, the threats will begin. Just the nasty chatter, the accusations from the right this past week had to be enough to make her hesitate. Still, she may release a statement if Cain continues his line of attack.
What is celibacy?
Celibacy can be a choice in life, or a condition imposed by circumstances. While attending a Marriage
Weekend, Frank and his wife Ann listened to the instructor declare, "It is essential that husbands and wives know the things that are important to each other." He then addressed the men. "Can you name and describe your wife's favorite flower?" Frank leaned over, touched Ann's arm gently, and whispered, "Gold Medal-All-Purpose, isn't it?"
And thus began Frank's life of celibacy...
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It got crowded in heaven, so, for one day it was decided only to accept people who had really had a bad day on the day they died. St. Peter was standing at the pearly gates and said to the first man, "Tell me about the day you died."
The man said, "Oh, it was awful. I was sure my wife was having an affair, so I came home early to catch her with him. I searched all over the apartment but couldn't find him anywhere. So I went out onto the balcony, we live on the 25th floor, and found this man hanging over the edge by his fingertips. I went inside, got a hammer, and started hitting his hands. He fell, but landed in some bushes. So, I got the refrigerator and pushed it over the balcony and it crushed him. The strain of the act gave me a heart attack, and I died."
St. Peter couldn't deny that this was a pretty bad day, and since it was a crime of passion, he let the man in. He then asked the next man in line about the day he died. "Well, sir, it was awful," said the second man. "I was doing aerobics on the balcony of my 26th floor apartment when I twisted my ankle and slipped over the edge. I managed to grab the balcony of the apartment below, but some maniac came out and started pounding on my fingers with a hammer. Luckily I landed in some bushes. But, then the guy dropped a refrigerator on me!"
St. Peter chuckled, let him into heaven and decided he could really start to enjoy this job. "Tell me about the day you died?", he said to the third man in line.
"OK, picture this, I'm naked, hiding inside a refrigerator ..."
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Ah Herman, We Hardly Knew Ya. Tsk Tsk Tsk. This is not good. Candidates having affairs is so yesterday. Sexual Harrassment however, is a no no. No ladies are going to vote for you. Women don't stand for this sort of behavior any longer. Nor should they.
You're Moving On Alright. Right out of the campaign. Time to pack it in.
I don't suppose you'd care to elaborate IR?
What is the differnce?
You all clamoured for the Restaurant Association to release the confidentiality clause so she could speak. It is what she said she wanted so she could speak.
So they gave her and you all your wish.
Cold feet? Could it be her bluff got called?
This is a chance for a huge payday. Probably a million of more for one interview.
Kinda makes you wonder about the true nature of the allegations. After all, she took very little to begin with.
Oh well, I guess we'll never know. And all the while Cain continues to rake in the cash.
Jody - are you saying she got paid off not to tell the 'truth?'
That sound a tad sinister, no?
i wonder if the Cain campaign paid her off a second time to shut-up?
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/throwback/201111/lou-gehrig-kurt-russells-dad-and-home-run-bat-grand-story-tell
Pat been looking for you all week. As much as you like
Baseball your going to love this one.
You're so right IR - I loved this article and read it twice. It's such a heart warming story and was happy to read that the family held on to this bat all these years. My oh my. Lou Gehrig's bat.
I have read so many biographies/autobiographies about famous baseball players. And what I especially remember is that the first baseball player I ever read a book about was in fact Lou Gehrig.
Thanks for this story. I'm sending it to family members and co-workers. They will love it as much as you and I did.
Like I said Thought of you right off when I saw It. Glad you enjoyed it. Have a good evening and a good weekend
Cracks me up all the guessing. She made an accusation, he denied the allegation, and they paid her rather than fight about it. Not really all that uncommon. As for Cain supporters, I would venture a guess that since this has boosted his fundraising efforts, they are more ardently supportive than ever.
Pres Obama is in trouble.
"As for Cain supporters, I would venture a guess that since this has boosted his fundraising efforts, they are more ardently supportive than ever."
My guess is if Cain was found guilty of murdering children many of you dittiheads would still support him. As one of them said earlier this week -- we don't care what he did.
You cannot be serious.
For the last week, we've heard nothing but "lift the gag order!".
The gag order got lifted, at the request of this woman's attorney. I can only presume she believed it would be denied.
Her bluff got called- and if these charges had been leveled against a democrat, you can bet your bottom dollar the headline would NOT be the same as the headline on this story.
Sorry, but amorphous charges by someone in the process of getting fired, ( that's what "involuntary dismissal" means), don't really carry a lot of weight with me.
So, let's see what develops now- SHE requested that the gag order be lifted- so that releases the NRA, too. Come on, media- tell us what she alleged.
Actually NoJoe, the victim said she would not speak out BEFORE the gag order was lifted. She didn't want her life and that of her family to be made into a circus.
The accusers would appear to have been vindicated by settlement and by Cain's departure from the NRA.
The accuser also appears to be the brightest person in the room.
She has figured out that the right is venomous, vicious, and has no problem stigmatizing victims. She has nothing to prove to anyone. Cain is done. Never had more than 25% of the crazy votes bought by the Koch brothers and won't get enough to do much more than sell books to fools. Why on earth would she play with these insects? Seriously? She's obviously a genius. I'd vote for her.
Or she was smart enough not to want her life ruined by the crazies on the right for daring to stand up?
Wow, what a shocker. If I were the ladies I wouldn't speak up either - the right will just vilify them and some how contend that they were asking for it...
"the right will just vilify them and some how contend that they were asking for it"
No, that was Clintons excuse.
Remember, Cain knows who this woman is. I suspect someone told her that if she releases a statement, they'll out her name, and it will become the media circus she obviously wants to avoid.
The details are not as important as the fact that Cain lied, period.
Maybe he should change his name from Herman to Rais'n since he has been bringing such a big noise to the political scene, and has become a lightning rod for conspiracy theories on both sides of the aisle.
He probably will not survive to run in the final political race. Most likely he will run out of interesting, loosely founded things to say, or have too much baggage to be carried, and his financial backing will dry up before this gets too far in the preliminary heats of the nomination process.
It would be fascinating to see all the heads blowing up in Washington D.C., (sorry, I stole that line from Cheney), if two very interesting, talented, and charismatic citizens of the USA who happen to not be white men were the only ones running for the most powerful position on planet Earth in 2012.
This is what the Obama vote thinks...
How is that turd sandwich Bill?
Paul: You're only right in thinking sex harrassment charges and payoffs to make those charges go away makes no difference to the far right. Anyone who thinks women are full human beings isn't in that end of the party. Not aligning with the knee jerk hate politics does make a difference to the non pitch fork voter. That's one of the many, many reasons the Republican nominee is going to be Romney... He'll be the only one left standing after the early primaries simply because he isn't completely humiliating to the party to call presidential material.
nice. So sexual harassment isn't important. It's okay to treat women like meat and degrade them. Yup, very nice. This the party of morals, eh?
They aren't even paying lip service to the idea any longer.
One down, two more to go! Or then again the line can grow longer and longer. Cain won't get the nomination but should he this will come back to haunt him and it should.
MJ, Do you think it's OK to make false accusations? Talk about a party of morals...You have nothing, but you are willing to burn this guy at the stake! She wanted her chance to talk, but the confidentiality agreement was in the way...now it has been lifted and she changes her mind. Sounds like a political ploy.
False accusations??? The only question now is how much of a percentage of the new payoff did her attorney get for negotiating the deal with Cain's people.
NEWS FLASH .... No more room in Hell. Its full of Republicans. They now have a waiting list and are passing out numbers. Lets hope they have more vacancies because if this BS keeps up it will be Hell on Earth.
I do so love liberals. They are never at a loss for a spin job.
Do you think lawyers undertake negotiations WITHOUT the consent of their clients? That they just randomly go around, asking that confidentiality agreements be lifted, without first being REQUESTED to do so- by their clients?
You cannot possibly believe all the baloney you spew.
Well, maybe you can. You're probably planning to vote to continue nine percent unemployment and debt the same size as GDP, too.
Mortimer, You so badly want this to be true don't you...you are so in bed with your party you have become brain washed. Please feel free to explain what you think Obama should run on this next election cycle.
I had a business professor in college that had explained that he had been sued for sexual harassment because he had a quirk with winking a people...a tick that got him into trouble even though men had noticed that he did it to them and it was nothing sexual. So one lady accused him of sexual misconduct. The company stood behind him and they payed out $35,000 for this. Was he unfit to do his job?
Mr Bennet. there is a saying that all lawers are pieces of sh!t. Since you are a lawyer, it follows that you must be a piece of sh!t. That makes it true, Right?? Right??
I have yet to read any specifics of the allegations. None. This seems very suspicious that this woman wont come forward. She could easily make $1,000,000 for an interview. This smells.
Joseph E. - Your faith in Cain, has been misplaced. There is now a face to put the facts out. Find a new candudate. Plenty of Republi-duds to still choose from. Good luck! Hope you won't have to be disappointed again, but even you may be starting to understand, these "flavor of the month" jokes are all the same - vomit flavor! Gobble, gobble!
Only a Republican't 'WANT TO BE' would weigh these options and choose A:
A - Make myself filthy rich, be the subject of a movie of the week; but have my good name dragged through the mud and be the recipient of countless hate messages from the RightWing Sling Machine
B - Move on in life, enjoy where one is at with family, career, etc and let the other jackasses reveal their true selves
We know how Sarah Palin and her ilk play this money card,...rightwingers just can't accept that people of character don't see the need to milk their 15 minutes to full on saturation. Cuz' that just ain't how those homey's roll.
In the 'self made' minds of the simple,...they just don't get it.
Congrats on getting to Boiler Room question there Betty. I see where it dirtied up some Yahoo's shorts. Good on you
Thanks Floyd!
Last I checked they're still picking them out of their cracks! ;o)
Hope you got something ready for the Dew Drop Inn - if you don't mind, I'll tag onto ya!
Stick with me darlin' and arrive alive. Maybe bruised a might but still mobile, agile and hostile.
I ain't going no where Floyd - check the front page - there's no TWA this week but still a post!
Independent and Fiesty should get a room.
Don't be so jealous - it's not a healthy emotion!
fr -- not jealousy; disgust.
But like a fly to an outhouse James - you can't stop yourself from reading... lol
Don't need no room. If you got it flaunt it. And me and Betty sure got it. What you got?
Can the overseer block them for not staying on point.
But what else do you expect. But it is nice to know you are coal miners and in the union.
I would check were redneck came from. I gave you a hint!
They don't need a room if his bat is big enough for her glove. Ohhhhhhhh!
gone!
BIG YAWNER
Let me get this straight, an anonymous woman made a complaint.
Herman Cain refuted the validity of his claim.
The Restaurant Association settled.
Now, per the agreement, both sides have to shut up about it.
O.K., so this is big news? This is current news ? ? ? This has something to do with the price of tea in China ? ? ?
In the case of Weiner, there was evidence. In the case of Clinton-Lewinski there was evidence -- remember the cum stain on the blue dress.
Where is the smoking gun?
evidence of consentual sex.
There was no crime committed by Clinton(unless adultery is now a punishable offense).
Was Bill immoral for cheating? Yes.
That was between Bill, Hilary, Monica, and God.
It's pretty obvious Hilary forgave him(or let it slide).
Bill should have told Congress "it's none of your f*ck*n business!".
Congress lies to everyone else. I don't hold it against Clinton for lying to them(liars themselves) on that issue.
Greg Parker................the smoking gun Greg is that in Wiener and Clinton's cases there were only one woman involved! Koch "Caine" fiddled with three! That is three that we know of! Who knows, maybe he fiddled with Clarence Thomas' wife? Maybe we all should start stories like the ultra right groupies and if we say it enough times they will actually believe that he fiddled with Clarences wife!
Greg: no you didn't get it straight. She wasn't anonymous when she filed the complaint obviously--she's only anonymous to YOU. The Restaurant Association, (as well as Mr. Cain once his memory cleared up), is aknowledging the complaint was filed and she was paid off. They also aknowledge she wasn't the only one who came forward and then received a settlement to leave her job and keep quiet. Now either we believe you that the association was just so scared of some low level staffers they simply became in the habit of writing checks, or there is a question here about what was going on. Some of us are capable of using common sense. But you stick with that line that by not facing harrassers now and having their lives torn apart again, they obviously couldn't have been telling the truth before anyone knew any of this. Maybe it'll work for ya and Mr. Cain will make it all the way to the very first primary before he disintegrates into that talk circuit.
(Minnesotan) the smoking gun Greg is that in Wiener and Clinton's cases there were only one woman involved!
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NO. The "smoking gun" (evidence) in the case of Weiner was his tweets and texts, plus pictures of himself showing off and discussing his, EXHIBIT A. The "smoking gun" (evidence) with Clinton was that cum stain on Monica's dress, EXBITIT B.
For Cain, besides "he said, she said", there is NO EXHIBIT C.
(AP) Now either we believe you that the association was just so scared of some low level staffers they simply became in the habit of writing checks.
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AP, all big organizations have one thing in common, at least, the FEAR OF EMBARRASSMENT. Now, how many checks they write and to whom they write them, and why, is a topic of great interest.
Consider this from a strictly economic point of view. The Restaurant Association discussed this with their lawyers and decided that there was a 20% chance of losing a $5,000,000 lawsuit. OR, they could settle for lets say $50,000.
Do the math.
$50,000 vs. (20% of $5,000,000) which is $1,000,000
$1,000,000 divided by $50,000 = 20
The "pot odds" if you are a poker player is 20 to 1 in your favor if you settle.
AP, this has nothing to do with guilt, innocence, or even Cain himself -- the Restaurant Assocation was looking out for number 1, and in their view, this is The Restaurant Association.
First and foremost, I see a couple of things here. The Restaurant Associations are no different than medical and legal malpractice suits, right or wrong it is more "cost effective" to settle..... Accusers know and count on this for monetary gain. Which leads me to my second observation, the accuser and her husband no longer wish to comment on this. Why? Their smear campaign accomplished its goal.. a) they hurt Cain's chances as a GOP Contender; b) they obtained the monetary gain they were really after.
I don't know how much "smoke" or "fire" were really involved here. However, what I do know is the Obama Camp was highly threatened by the "Cain" contender. Cain's popularity was growing and Obama no longer would be the only "black" on the block. Therefore, Obama's dismal 1st term record would surely come into play more aggressively. I don't think this was a "Perry" information issue; I think this was drudged up by the Obama Camp to shut down Cain before he became too much of a credible threat; and Perry was used as the "scapegoat" to shift the spotlight.
Why do I draw this conclusion? Two reasons.. a) Why bring all this up now eleven years later. Cain is a wealthy business man. Why wasn't a criminal investigation or, at the very least, a civil action brought against Cain years ago. Why wait until the Statute of Limitations has passed to drag all of this up now? b) Because the Statute of Limitations have passed for a civil or criminal suit/charges; what better way to stop Cain's GOP potential than a media "Character Assault". Who has the most to lose having Cain on the ticket, Perry or Obama? Obama! Perry can run again in 2016, but, this is it for Obama.... It's not rocket science, people!...
Consider if you will, Obama's track record during the last three years. Pretty dismal.... What better way to draw the focus off Obama's 6+ Trillion spending, lack of credible leadership, mockery of Constitutional Immigration Laws, increased government control legislative bills pending, passing an Obama-Care Health-care Bill that will drive up unemployment and the majority of Americans don't want; and broken campaign promises. The Obama Camp wins two fold by this fiasco... They draw the focus off Obama and stop Cain's legitimate attack on Obama's record by forcing Cain to change his focus from Obama to his own character assassination.
Whether Cain is guilty or innocent in these matters, is no longer the issue, the damage is done... Too much "Element of Character Doubt has been created in the American People's minds to give Cain a fair shake now. I find it amusing, that Cain was such a threat to other contenders or the Democratic Camp, when the GOP Candidacy hasn't even been decided yet. I don't know what Democrats have to complain about, all I've heard was a few alleged sexual comments made eleven years ago. At least that's not a Democrat President, like Bill Clinton, having relations in the White House. How is Monica doing these days, Bill?
You have to admit the Obama Camp was slick here... Very slick... Desperation does that....
Here again, it kinda makes you squirm some. These are the guys that the Republicans have to choose from to run for the President of the United States. Its kinda like picking Palin for VP--who is making these decisions? Doesn't the Tea Party pay for HANDLERS????
The absolutely hysterical part is that Cain was made aware of these allegations, so this means he did it, got caught, paid off the lady, and DID IT AGAIN.
Not much on the learning curve, is our Mr. Cain. With this complete, the field now narrows down to whoever can beat Newt. I wonder how his poll numbers are doing.....
Well so far the count is 3, but there are other out there, Cain seems to be addicted to sexual harassment. I blame his wife. or not.
Cains is really good at playing dumb, or is he playing?
On one hand he wants us to believe he is a math wiz and has a mind like a steel trap, and at the same time he says he just don't remember much about this incident. I don't care if it was fifty years ago I would remember if I was accused of something like that, and I guarantee you Mrs. Grump would remember, and if I ever dreamed of forgetting I believe she would remind me in the greatest of detail.
Yeh Forrest there ain't no better reminder than a woman who feels she was wronged. No matter whether a fellow had honorable intentions or not.
The hottest hot sauce I ever had in my life was named "A Woman Scorned"
True that. Kind of makes a fellow want to locate all the tubes of Super Glue that's in the house.
Hey Forrest,
Thanks for responding to my comment last night. You gave me a lot to think about, dam you!
I agree with you, how could anyone forget charges like that, and if he did forget, that's not saying much for his character.
My sister received over $500,000 dollars to settle her claim. Her boss at the time thought it would be funny to pull his pants down when she walked into his office. Needless to say my sister was not amused. I think what bothered her more was the outcome, not so much the act. She lost her job of 14 years and her friends from work will no longer speak to her. They accused her of over reacting, and being a prima donna. It was very ugly.
Your welcome and I'm sorry if you lost sleep Thetotas
A guy with Alzheimer's could not forget that. The woman is usually at a disadvantage in these matters caught between needing her job and some ignoramus, it can wreck marriages, its no good. I tell young people if you would not say or do it in front of your mother or sisters, then don't say it to a woman at work. Even the cash can't really make up for some things that result from these situations sometimes.
Speaking of a fly in a outhouse , is that how you were concieved ?
Independent REdneck: So where does it say that's a defense for sexual harrassment: Gee, I meant no harm? Who WOULDN'T want to come back to my apartment? Better stick to your day job.
And as a side bet, I wager that the woman comes out to the press by Sunday. Any takers??
I'm not sure Kevin - I wish she would but, I have a feeling she doesn't want to get the Anita Hill treatment from the party of pale, male & stale!
I believe you may be right, she may get some lucrative offers if she has not already been paid as Kevin said.
Although I hope they stick with Hermann the Harasser.
Heh, if Politico has REALLY sat on this story for 10 days, 1. She already has at least 1 offer on the table, and the media is floating this story to see how much they are gonna hafta pay her to get her on a show first, or 2. Koch already has it under control and they are just testing Cain's elect-ability before they do hardcore cash in brown paper bags donations to his campaign.
I wouldn't put to much faith in the Koch brothers ability to determine if Herman is electable or not. Look at the bad job they did hiring his campaign manager.
They may have a lot of money, but, boy, are they ever short in the ability department.
Now I can go back to Burger King, with my electrocardiogram held high.
Sorry but nothing from this sordid tale comes EVEN close to the Clinton Administration.
Consensual Cigars
vs
Unwanted Sexual advances
Yeah, I can see why you feel that way,...
no, sorry, I tried; but I just can't. In the MAN's world of dominance, their behavior is NEVER to be questioned, right? If they use bad judgment, they were just joking; but Monica is a slut and a whore,...
Where are Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin on a REAL issue of gender inequality? I guess in their 'submissive' roles, they are never to question the sexual needs of ANY man?
What a joke,...
You vision is narrow but that isn't a surprise.
I'm not talking about Monica Lewinsky.
Remember Paula Jones?
This woman should've sued the hell out of Cain IF the allegations are true instead of being bought off.
Nothing destroys credibility when you exchange it for cold, hard cash.
I couldn't care less whether the accusations are real or false. Anything to take this bozo Cain off the set.
BTW....who abbreviates association as ASS apostrophe n?????
This logic is broke:
Accusations are made every day. Women appear to be extremely bitter and vendictive when they don't get their way.
All of it may be true, but facts and legal rulings are all that count.
So now it is all lie, but who lied?
Politics suck.
Gee Bill...This is not about YOUR personal difficulty with women. Try and focus.
For many Progressives this has been a high-tech lynching...conviction before proof.
And now that any "proof" has pretty much gone "poof" it's time to concentrate on
getting our Speechifier-In-Chief to spend a little less time on the taxpayer funded
"Campaign Bus" and at fund raisers (he's headed toward the 1 BILLION $ mark)
and get to work on this tanking economy. (other than speechify)
You know, GBS, you've got a point there about the campaigning (although all incumbent presidenets have to do it). A billion dollars is indeed ridiculous. That he might need such an excessive amount to fight the equally absurd lies from the truthers, birthers, and others is also unfortunate, but true.
Having a little trouble there using reasoning? Look at the headline again. The Association is confirming charges were made and they wrote a check to make it go away. Sometimes you pay people off because you know a jury would award FAR more.
GBS, we all know that if the woman came forward, FOX news would stalk her and her family relentlessly. It would be wise to check your own side before you write such things as "high tech lynching".
Sorry that your front runner just fell on his face. If I were you, I would be also be nasty and bitter about my pathetic options...but that still doesn't mean that this article had a single thing to do with President Obama. Does playing the "race" card and deflecting make you feel smart and relevant? If so, you are more dilluded than a Bachmann at a revival....
The Cain folks have been bragging about how much money they have received since the sexual harassment settlements became news. With the wealthy Koch right-wing brothers bankrolling the Tea Party, related organizations and the Cain campaign, that isn't news. It simply means that they and their stoolies have come to his rescue. His campaign manager (Block) is responsible for two tax-free (non-profit) organizations funding Cain campaign activities that directly break the law. Hopefully, this will be investigated by responsible law enforcement authorities and charges brought against those guilty. It is already known that the Koch brothers have no ethics (dealing with Iran, funding political attacks upon a former presidential candidate who risked his life serving this country and now their direct involvement in trying to buy the Presidency. Cain is guilty. The Koch brothers are guilty. And their sheep are guilty.
So how many hollywood types who defended Roman the Rapist and {Polanski the Pedophile contribute to OBAMA?
WHO ARE THE pOLLARDS CONTRIBUTING TO? wHY IS ALAN sIMPSON PIMPING A PARDON FOR pOLLARD? cHECK THE pOLLARD WEB SITE.
$ FOR CONVICTED TRAITORS???? wHERE IS THE PATROTIC AND LOYAL LEFT?
I'm not trying to be a smart***, I was just wondering if you could explain the history of the Koch brothers to me. I have seen many negative comments about them and I would like if someone could explain their history, what they're all about and what they stand for. From the comments I have seen then don't have a very nice past or a good track record with people. A sincere thank you to anyone who will take the time to respond....have a great day everyone! :)
And he still isn't.
If Cain was not such a threat to Obama...
Then none of this would be NEWS...
If Cain wasn't such a threat to other Republican candidates(mainly Romney), this wouldn't be news.
It's a safe bet that(barring some unforeseen catastrophe caused by Obama), Obama would beat Cain by a landslide.
he's a joke and no threat...you're looking in the wrong place. Why do you think he immediately blamed Perry?
Let's see, Cain doesn't want any questions about small foreign countries. He can't keep his hands to himself around the ladies. His tax policy would raise almost all ordinary people's taxes. Yeah, he's another winner! He's a winner hand-chosen by two billionaire oil tycoons, so clearly a man of the people. But all those Repubs are winners!!
I notice that Newt is keeping his powder dry about Cain's female problems. Smart idea for someone that dumped one of his two prior wives during her cancer treatment at the hospital. Let's talk about CHARACTER. Republicans LOVE to talk about CHARACTER!
Go back and read post #8.
I thought it was like two weeks ago that Cain declared that racism doesn't exist anymore for the black man. Now suddenly he is a victim of his non-existant racism problem.
Enough of this gossip- I'm sending Herman some more money. If there was anything to this, she'd be talking and looking for a big payday.
Admittedly, it's too bad the guy doesn't have Mitt Romney's reputation, which is spotless. We'd all like to see a higher standard of behavior amongst politicians. I'd like to have seen Obama go to a different church. There's Clinton and Weiner and, to be fair about it, that Republican dirtball who got busted in a bathroom with a guy in the Minneapolis airport.
Cain's campaign financing is still under investigation. We'll have to see if there is anything to that or if it's just more left wing gossip.
Herman Cain is a conservative. Mitt Romney is not. Barack Obama is a socialist which equals clueless.
The economy is the issue and Obama is out of bullets. The stimulus hasn't worked. To create jobs we've got to drill for oil and develop nucear power, lower taxes, cut spending, and obliterate Obamacare.
Cain has to get back on message and stay there. Hopefully he can do that.
Sorry. Not true.
Sorry. Not gonna happen.
Next?
Creep - it is going to happen. We are so tired of the inept lead by the stupid. Nov 2012 will start us on the road to recovery.
Next?
Sorry, teabaggers and republicans. None of your "leaders" have a chance at the presidency.
President Obama has another term to serve.
Try again in 2016.
Or maybe 2020.
Who was it that took a growing economy with a federal budget that was paying down the national debt, and CRASHED it? Oh yeah, that would be the Republican/TP Inc. party. Something about tax cuts, deregulation of the financial sector, unfunded Medicare prescription drug plan, and two, unfunded wars comes to mind . . . now who was it that did those things? Oh yeah! Again, it was the Republican/TP Inc. party.
Yep, Bill from Oregon, and Jeff White-526769, you guys really know what you're talking about. Oh, wait a minute, all you did was repeat lies (the stimulus didn't work, cutting taxes creates jobs (where are all of those jobs from the 'he who shall not be named' tax cuts, James?), Obama is a socialist, etc.), and Republican/TP Inc. talking points. So, no, you don't know what you're talking about. You know what else? You guys are really boring.
[Sorry, teabaggers and republicans. None of your "leaders" have a chance at the presidency.]
Choosing from the current group of GOP/Tea Party "presidential candidates" is like choosing which sexually transmitted disease you would like.
I'd be happy if the right wing nuts knew what the word "socialist" means. I love how they all parrot the same multisyllable word incorrectly and make fools out of themselves.
Jeff, you are right about bullets. During a recession you can use fiscal policy to stimulate the economy in one of two ways, stimulus spending or lower taxes. The Bush tax cuts were totally irresponsible because they not only were unnecessary, by lowering taxes to their lowest level in fifty years at a time of two open ended armed conflicts, they robbed any future president (republican or democrat) from using tax cuts to stimulate the economy when the need arose due to the deficit their cuts elicited. That is, Obama came into office with huge recession issues, a financial crisis beyond compare, and two wars and the actions of the "tax cuts all the time party" efffectively gave him a gun with one bullet, stimulus spending. Now they are refusing even that option for their own political opportunism. Disgusting.
Good points, Bluecat 55. One thing to remember about the 'tax cuts stimulate the economy' observation, though, that is only true under very specific circumstances. From your post, I think that you understand that, and you were correct when you pointed out that they were not necessary when President Bush pushed them through Congress.
Cains a loser & will never make a general election!
CNN said tonight that for all intents and purposes this story is over. I agree. There simply is no "there" there.
Turns out the first woman and her attorney who appeared today took the first step in these kinds of matters back in 1999 - they lodged an internal complaint - but did not pursue the matter anymore after that. Mr. Cain denied any wrongdoing. The woman and her attorney decided not to go any further. There was no legal case filed by the woman and her attorney - no depositions - no litigation period. The woman and her attorney took the internal complaint "agreement" money - the NRA's word - of $45,000 - and that was that. In legal circles $45,000 is considered "nuisance fees" when paid. In the second case it has been reported the "nuisance fees" were even less - $35,000. The NRA said today that the woman was free to talk about the complaint - but she chose not to. I can completely understand why she doesn't want to be in the spotlight.
So now it is back to 999!
I just love you CLOWN LIBERALS calling out Cain, you are proving you are the most hypocritical and ignorant people on earth. And while I'm sure many will find venomous ways to respond, few will be able to back it up with factual content.
1: Many lawsuits are settles out of court, NOT because of GUILT, but because the costs of trial is more than settlement. THIS typically means the accused has money, and instead of wasting taxpayer money, they settle, where as the accuser YOU WOULD THINK, if they were indeed telling the truth would want JUSTICE and NOT money. But both cases were settled for YES...MONEY.
2: You Liberals jump on Cain, but somehow gave Obama a FREE PASS for having Fund Raisers with Bill Ayers, a convicted terrorist FELON, who has stated they wished they had done more damage. Take the names away and simply ASK, should we elect a president with THOSE TIES?
3: You Liberals jump on Cain, but somehow forget about Rev. Wright and his relationship with Obama. You know God FXXK America...Take the NAMES away and ask, should we have a President that has CONSISTENTLY been a member of THIS person's congregation. Not saying he doesn't have the RIGHT to attend, but would you elect a person POTUS with THAT on resume.
4: You Liberals always talk about GWB and intelligence, but somehow forget and forgive the 57 States...LOL...
ALL OF THIS is FACTUAL, which means TRUE, yet you liberals somehow don't have a problem with THAT.
You also can't seem to understand WHO of elected and/or campaigning officials has collected the MOST money from Wall Street this campaign season...GUESS WHO...NOPE, not Romney, nope, not Perry, nope not Cain...OH wait, it's a Democrat, that isn't even running for office THIS year. It's Obama, who in fact has raised more money from Wall Street that the Republican candidates combined, despite being more than 1 year away from election. Guess it's good to get an early start.
But shhhhh...Liberals don't like it when facts are presented, it taints the ability to lie...Just ask them what Freddie and Fannie mean and what that has to do with today's mess...they'll still say GWB...LOL...LOL...bu shhhhh...facts hurt the "cause."
One and DONE
and you can find the facts by searching the "right wing" sight...
Which one? Fox? NO
Rush? NO
Hannity? NO
Greta? NO
O'Reilly? NO
Fox and Friends? No
Well where, that's all the "fake news" shows...Where...?
Hmm...TRY MSNBC, TRY CNN, TRY POLITICO, TRY NPR...WHY...cuz even those sites can't hide public information, unless of course Fed Gov't passes the bill that allows them to deny access that is...
but shhhhh. we shouldn't know that...
MSNBC: Would you mind doing some research? Exactly how many articles did you dedicate to Bill Clinton's sexual escapades? There were specific allegations (not anonymous) and some very serious (rape, groping). Furthermore if Monica Lewinski doesn't fall under the definition of sexual harassment, I don't know what does.
All we know is that an anonymous person settled for a sum of money for undisclosed allegations against Herman Cain. You have crucified him already. Don't gag when you try to claim that you are objectively following news stories. Your agenda is despicable. I have several friends who have spent their lives in the corporate world and these kinds of agreements aren't even rare, they are common. The nuisance payoffs are far cheaper than hiring lawyers to litigate the matter. We don't know what happened, and since the woman won't talk, we probably never will. Don't you have anything more important to cover?
The Monica Lewinsky scandel does not fall under the definition of sexual harrassment. Not to excuse Clintons behavior, but Monica had a crush on Clinton, flirted with him, and made sexual jestures to him like lifting her skirt when she was in his view. She tempted him and WILLINGLY engaged in consentual sexual activity with him. That does not constitute sexual harrasment. It was bad behavior for a married man and a president, and poor judgment, but he did not harrass her.
If you are trying to say the "mainstream meeedia" didn't cover Clinton's mess the same way they are this you are just...partisan. The Clinton/Lewinsky mess was more than thoroughly covered by all media at the time. You couldn't get away from it!
Was there ANY media not completely dedicated 24/7 to the Lewinsky affair?? What rock were you living under??
You are correct, Marci. You don't know what falls under the definition of sexual harassment. Monica Lewinsky was plainly, by her own accounts, a willing participant in what ever sexual activity occurred between her and then President Clinton. He had an affair with a White House intern, and the only people in a moral position to complain of his behavior, is his wife, Hilary, and the courts, to which he gave a plainly inaccurate legal deposition.
...and while I really have no idea to what degree this decade-old story was covered by MSNBC, it was certainly all over the new media back when it happened. I don't think the first moon landing had as much coverage.
I'm more interested in knowing why his tax plan is totally bogus and why it matters to know uzbecky, becky, becky, stan's leader. I'd also like to know if his policy interests are more aligned with his billionaire donors or regular American people.
Anyone can file a sexual discrimination suit. Funny how $$$$$ can soothe ones outrage at the discrimination. I'm not a Cain supporter but the media circus surrounding this whole episode of over a dozen years ago has been nothing short of disgusting. As far as the ALLEGED sexual discrimination, who cares. The woman/women in question have done what they desired, practically ruining a man's reputation. Far worse than what they ALLEGE happened to them.
hey Lacie,
Don't try to tell this to MSNBC.
They make a living by bashing Repubs and spew the hate to the liberal lemmings who lap up the kool aid like they've been parched in a desert for days.
Then why did the NRA confirm the SETTLEMENT (Hint: a "settlement" is not the same as an "accusation"... Words mean things)
Media circus? Who started that media circus. Have you ever seen little kids start a fight and then suddenly pretend they had nothing to do with it. And the other child gets into trouble? I am sure Limbaugh was one of those kids. I saw him in action talking about how the left was treating Cain so mean and a bunch of crap. When in actuality he was the one stirring things up. I have decided that when someone says something about how someone is treating someone they need to state if they saw the action that was so terrible or did they just hear someone like Limbaugh or Hannity or Oreilly telling them that is what happened with no proof. I have seen this happen with the Gabby Gifford case, Palin, and now Cain.Plus more I can't remember. MSNBC starts reporting stuff and before you know they are being accused of causing all kind of trouble. You can report all you want and that is fair game but making up stuff for damage control especially when you lie is not right and they should stop it. The only way it is going to stop is to let everyone know exactly what they do and expect them to check it out. Themselves. Quit getting mad about false information which was designed to make you mad.
ktlin,
You are kidding , right?
Just count the number of articles written here (Msnbc) about Herman Cain.
You would think Herman Cain is THE LEADER OF THE WORLD with all the attention he gets and the bashing he takes. (that's why he receives MORE donations, not less).
Meantime, Obama has the abysmal record of adding $4 trillion to our debt ,s&p downgrade and NO budget !!!!!!!!!
Crickets.
It is not just one allegation of sexual harassment, but now three, and the National Restaurant Assoc. has now confirmed that it paid a settlement in at least one of the cases.
Is Hermanater Cain really the best the Republican Party can come up with as a candidate? If so, Barrack Obama can look forward to a 2012 campaign that will be more akin to a victory tour.
Does GOP stand for Goofy, Old Politicians?
Lacie: So great of you to tell other women to just shut up and take it--There's NO such thing as sexual harrassment?? You know when a man rants about all women making stuff up, losing their jobs, risking humiliation because they're just born vindictive and petty, and out to "get" men--one can assume there is a bitter divorce somewhere that someone isn't man enough to get over. When a woman goes after other women like that, we can just call it self-loathing. You can get help for that you know.
The loser LIBBIES are afraid of Herman Cain and the conservatives , that's why their trying to beat him up !!! the country knows what the dispicable Dems are doing !!! Vote Conservative Republican in 2012 and the real change that will help America will come !!
If Hermanator Cain ever attains access to the White House as anything more than a tourist, I certainly would be frightened. The man's crazy.
Luckily, that will never happen. He is sliding into the same political scrap heap that already contains Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin.
What a creep.
THE KEY HERE IS she declined to comment , AFRAID the truth might come out after a frivolous law suite settlement THEN they could turn around and file suite for return of settlement
SMART on her part WE REALLY DO NEED loser pay laws to stop this crap ,it only costs the consumers , the companies increase costs to cover these suits , one must really question why the Democrats object to this legislation ,
So they are going to retry the matter in public with the full force of the republican smear machine. You know what happens when someone brings something up. The other side makes up all kinds of stuff. She had to come out to a degree because Cain said nothing happened. He of all people would know they investigated the claims and he took part in the investigation. If there was nothing to it it would have been resolved when he was a nobody. And besides there are at least two more little ladies making the same accusatiions. In the meantime he lied to the people in the spring and said that if someone said anything they would be making it up. Make up a settlement in a lawsuit? Now that would be pretty hard to do wouldn't it. He should have fesse up at the time but he knew about the contracts and he thought he was safe. The coverup always is worse than the crime in most cases. We don't know about this one though do we? But he did try to hide it didn't he?What all these people fail to realize is that most of their statements are on tape, people make it their job to find those tapes and at least one channel will dare to play them. You just can't argue with what you said on tape.Bye bye Cain. Or does it think I will worrybout that tomorrow!Romney is the only one left standing or squatting whatever. But he is trying to destroy himself with his endless flipflopping which is shown on tape of course.
So, Darrel, you don't think that after 10+ years she perhaps wants to put such a sorry episode behind her?
Whatever settlement reached, and the depositions and other legal maneuverings which preceded it, are all matters of public record. The NRA has already confirmed the settlement.
BTW: Cain was never going to be our next president. The man is a ignorant loon, who has no idea regarding most of the subjects about which he speaks. He appears sometimes to not even be aware of the meaning of the words leaving his own mouth. But, as he himself put it, when trying to retract his previously stated willingness to negotiate with terrorist, "I misspoke. It was moving so fast, I misspoke. I would not do that, I simply would not do that."
I wonder how he intends to slow things down when he's sitting in the Oval Office.
Darryl: no the key here is that the Restaurant Association backs up her claim against Cain's denials that something happened. If it was so completely absurd, why pay out (TWICE...with TWO women in separate incidents??) You want her to put herself in the public eye for what purpose?? To have you judge whether she's "harrassment worthy"???