I know I am !

This is great. Now subpoena the records of AIG and all the banks that are foreclosing on people's homes that have not missed a payment. If they're really looking for criminals then they should have started there long ago but this with Solyndra is starting to look like a political witch hunt.

Bush and Cheney threw more at Halliburton than this but the right wing congressmen never blinked an eye. Go figure.

They gave themselves bonuses with taxpayer money and then filed bankruptcy. As a minimum, they should be forced to return those bonuses. Something definitely smells bad with this whole affair. The Bush admin was holding up the loan because of questions. As soon as Obama took office, it got fast tracked. It definitely looks like there was political pressure from the top to approve the loan.

Anna and all,

If you are so partisan as to not care what "your" party does in office, but only what the "other" party is doing, then you aren't really looking out for the country. We should be upset about the misspending of our government- period! The DOE (with the White House) gave over a half a billion dollars against the warnings of their current auditors(and a past denial from the WH). Then they restructured the loan agrement such that the owners would get a great deal in bankruptcy. Then they tried to set up another half a billion dollar loan to the same company, but it went out of business prior to being able to ink it fully. That's sheer fiscal idiocy by our government!

I'm also upset that the politicians are paying off their family and friends with taxpayer supported deals. I'm upset that the politicians are perfectly happy to take our money in taxes and buy their next elections with fun deals that do nothing more than give back to their donors.

It's not the government's job to "pick" winners and loosers in the economy. It shouldn't be their job to build and destroy industries through regulation (other than those which will cause physical harm to humans). We need to kick all of these idiots out of DC and get some sensible representation.

AM - you found a profitable green company? Great job, I know it must have been hard.

But then again - you know the ratio of success to failure, right? Just wait, there are literally dozens of failed DOE loans coming up. Billions AM. Billions.

Plus this crap about tax credits and 'subsidies' is silly. We all get them - mortgage deductions. Shall that go away? It that personal tax subsidies? After all you take it and you are profitable, right?

Take IRC 179 [my favorite]. It applies to a vast array of business assets, allowing 100% depreciation in the year of purchase.

a subsidy? You trying to take away my ability to get huge SUVs for a big tax subsidized discount?

Why would you do that AM? I thought we we friends? :)

Spanky, do you know the difference between a loan and a loan guarentee?

Yeah, waste our money on a political stunt. God I hate these teapublicans with a passion!!!!

So how about we let the start up start up - good old fashion venture capitalism. I have myself loved and lost in that game. But see - it was my choice and my loss.

Well, isn't that always the way, Spanky?

But maybe you should tell that to the head of SoloPower -- a big Republican donor, by the way -- who accepted $197 million in federal loans, just three weeks before the Solyndra bankruptcy.

Even though CONSERVATIVE analysts said that SoloPower didn't really need to borrow the money.

With such well-heeled backers, some observers say there is no reason for the government to back the company.

“If SoloPower has a good marketing model and good prospects, it should be able to get private-sector money,” said Diana Furchtgott-Roth, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative research group. “But here, the loser if the company doesn’t succeed is the taxpayer.”

(emphasis added)

Yet another potential loss for taxpayers? Well.

Given that, shouldn't a patriotic fiscal conservative like Auerbach have turned down it down?

I mean, isn't that what YOU would have done if the federal government had offered YOU $197 million in guaranteed loans to expand your business?

How, then, shall we account for it?

Here's how Auerbach explained it --

Auerbach said Solyndra was an example of an investment gone bad. “But,” he said, “for every Solyndra, there is an example of 100 good investments.”

And doesn't that just sound familiar to you, Spanky?

I guess the government doesn't always miss, does it?

So, what's your point, again?

raddave - is the $535 gone?

Where it it go, and how did it get there, cause 'we' no longer seem to have it.

No raddave - did who came out better in the BK - us or George Kaiser?

And why is that?

Joe:

If you are so partisan as to not care what "your" party does in office, but only what the "other" party is doing, then you aren't really looking out for the country. We should be upset about the misspending of our government- period!

Agreed, Joe. Read my post above, and then tell it to the head of SoloPower, a Republican who accepted $197 million in federal loan guarantees just three weeks before the Solyndra bankruptcy.

What WAS he thinking, anyway, Joe?

Hypocrisy, much? LoL

The point is AM - the government is horrible at this and should give no money or guarantees to anyone. They need to stay out of the economy.

The taxpayer have enough to pay for - they do not need to be gambling money. And after all AM as we know, all this is just a form of gambling.

Me, I like to double down on a 10 against a 10. Now basic strategy says that's a bad call. But see, it's my money, and I just pounded a rum and coke.

What CHu did is double down on a 12 against a ace - no way this company was EVEN going to make it. In fact they know it would collapse in September 2011. So not really a gamble - no chance to win.

OH-did you not see Freedie Mac need another $6 billion today?

This seems like a political witch hunt. The government has guaranteed billions worth of loans like this. It seems to me it would be more informative to see the list of all of them. I think the truth is if you're wealthy and a political donor, it gets your foot in the door to ask for federal assistance. I'd like to know the percentage of these loan guarantees that don't have some wealthy political donor involved.

Yeah, invoke that "Executive privledge". I was wondering when this was going to "re-surface" it's ugly head, something the White House and the media have been "cloaking" for the past couple of weeks.

There goes another Obama campaign promise "out the door":

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9GSBT_-JoQ

And the "dark side" continues.

AM: I would love to see the White House not respond to the subpoena, claim executive privilege, or some other crafty maneuver.

Now there's a great attitude. AM couldn't care less about Obama's wasting of the taxpayers dollars, but completely goes out of her mind if an assistant librarian gets a pay cut in Wisconsin.

Spanker.

This is good stuff for you, huh?

It completely justifies (at least in your mind) many of the previous projections you were fed.

Proof, without actual proof, of your delusion.

Again, and again.

LOL!!!

Spanky-

The point is AM - the government is horrible at this and should give no money or guarantees to anyone. They need to stay out of the economy.

So, Spanky, do you think that the SBA should fold up shop as well? Did you know that approx 50% of all new businesses fail?

Obozo claims to be the upfront and Honest President. At least that was his campaign promise. Lets see now Barry. Fess up.

raddave:

So, Spanky, do you think that the SBA should fold up shop as well? Did you know that approx 50% of all new businesses fail?

I really hope Spanky answers you.

I've asked him this before, again and again. No answer.

And he knows.

Seriously wingnuts.

You guys are amusing.

So new to politics, that you jump right on board with the congressional investigation stuff, convinced like all of the other naive fools, that just because the partisans in the House are investigating, there is something nafarious afoot.

Nevermind these loans, and many others, had and have bi-paritsan support.

Irrelevant. All that matters is to attempt to take down the guy in the White House cable news told you isn't helping the economy,is overspending, and ruining this country.

A bit of advise. Turn off the cable news.

This crap happens on both sides whenever the opposite party controls at least one chamber of congress.

Study up kids.

So, Spanky, do you think that the SBA should fold up shop as well? Did you know that approx 50% of all new businesses fail?

LOL!!!

Spanker will ignore the question, as it may cause him to question his spoon fed delusion.

While I was writing my earlier post, many of you were posting as well. I have an answer to one of the questions. I believe our government is making these loan guarantees to counter China. China subsidizes a lot of their industry, and one of the reasons I think Solyndra failed is because Chinese companies were able to make solar panels cheaper. I think we're in the equivalent of an economic cold war with China.

Jamie.

Obozo claims to be the upfront and Honest President. At least that was his campaign promise. Lets see now Barry. Fess up

Nice wingnut logic.

LOL!!!

"Fess up to what I want to believe, Mr. President, or it is proof you are dishonest."

BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!

Dumb, dee, dee, dumb, dumb, dumb...

We looking into the money unaccounted for with Halliburton and the DOD under Bush next?

This is utter bs and 60k bonuses just a few months before they go belly up 8( that is just plain wrong 8(

Tax Dollars being wasted by politicians who promise to be transparent to the American people but can never deliver.

Liars all of them

I want to know who got the 500 million bucks of tax payer money.

I want to know the perpetrators who caused this to happen and they need to be punished for stealing from the American people.

(Reuters) - Beacon Power Corp filed for bankruptcy on Sunday, just a year after the energy storage company received a $43 million loan guarantee from a controversial Department of Energy program.

The bankruptcy comes about two months after Solyndra -- a solar panel maker with a $535 million loan guarantee -- also filed for Chapter 11, creating a political embarrassment for the administration of President Barack Obama, which has championed the loans as a way to create "green energy" jobs.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45097713/#.TrLRmLJzJ-0

Of course First Read failed to mention that Solyndra is only the beginning of which will prove to be Billions flushed down the toilet by the failed Stimulus. Oh you missed this story? Not a surprise since it was taken off the front page and buried within 15 minutes.

Of course First Read failed to mention that Solyndra is only the beginning of which will prove to be Billions flushed down the toilet by the failed Stimulus. Oh you missed this story? Not a surprise since it was taken off the front page and buried within 15 minutes.

LOL!!! The delusion continues....

Only the begining of what the projection you were fed will lead....at least that is what you were told.

Much like how you were told the stimulus failed...only problem being, the economic analysis shows the stimulus helped.

What? You missed that analysis? Not a surprise given you blind devotion to the collectively spoon fed delusion.

Study up, jr.

John Makin of the conservative think tank, the American Enterprise Institute:

The real economy also responded to the massive stimulus but remained heavily dependent on it. In the United States, growth during the second half of 2009 probably averaged about 3 percent. Absent temporary fiscal stimulus and inventory rebuilding, which taken together added about 4 percentage points to U.S. growth, the economy would have contracted at about a 1 percent annual rate during the second half of 2009.

http://www.aei.org/outlook/100928

Or Mark Zandi, advisor to the McCain campaign:

The Great Recession has finally come to an end, in large part because of unprecedented policy efforts by the Federal Reserve and fiscal policymakers. The cost to taxpayers has been substantial but would have been even greater if aggressive action was not taken and the financial crisis and recession had been allowed to continue unchecked.

http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/documents/JEC-Fiscal-Stimulus-102909.pdf

Or the CBO about the third quarter of 2009:

On that basis, CBO estimates that in the third quarter of calendar year 2009, an additional 600,000 to 1.6 million people were employed in the United States, and real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) was 1.2 percent to 3.2 percent higher, than would have been the case in the absence of ARRA (see Table 1). Those ranges are intended to reflect the uncertainty of such estimates and to encompass most economists’ views on the effects of fiscal stimulus.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10682/Frontmatter.2.2.shtml

Or what the CBO said about the forth quarter of 2009:

In sum, CBO estimates that in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2009, ARRA’s policies:
-- Raised real GDP by between 1.5 percent and 3.5 percent,
-- Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.5 percentage points and 1.1 percentage points,
-- Increased the number of people employed by between 1.0 million and 2.1 million, and
-- Increased the number of full-time-equivalent jobs by 1.4 million to 3.0 million compared with what those amounts would have been otherwise (see Table 1).

The effects of ARRA on output and employment are expected to increase further in calendar year 2010 but then diminish in 2011 and fade away by the end of 2012 (see Table 3).

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=11044

On that basis, CBO estimates that in the first quarter of calendar year 2010, ARRA’s policies:
--Raised the level of real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) by between 1.7 percent and 4.2 percent,
--Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.5 percentage points,
--Increased the number of people employed by between 1.2 million and 2.8 million, and
--Increased the number of full-time-equivalent jobs by 1.8 million to 4.1 million compared with what those amounts would have been otherwise (see Table 1). (Increases in FTE jobs include shifts from part-time to full-time work or overtime and are thus generally larger than increases in the number of employed workers.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/115xx/doc11525/05-25-ARRA.pdf

Of course First Read failed to mention that Solyndra is only the beginning of which will prove to be Billions flushed down the toilet by the failed Stimulus. Oh you missed this story? Not a surprise since it was taken off the front page and buried within 15 minutes.

Tell that to the head of SoloPower (see above). Maybe there's still time for those REPUBLICAN donors to give back their $197 million in guaranteed loan money, or find another source for the money and release us from the guarantee.

@ Repulicants -- Wow. Very impressive. Thank you for all that hard work.

Keep up the good fight, everyone, while I go off for the afternoon to teach a bunch of business students a few things you don't learn in Business School.

Irony? When encouraged to have hearings on the manufactured evidence to take us to war in Iraq, costing the US taxpayer $2T, and 4400+ US service members lives--not to mention 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, the President said, "let the nation heal"--the right wants to play the "Ken Starr game" yet again?

The GOP is so pathetic and tainted.

No doubt spending a Trillion dollars stimulates at least temporarily. The real question is what was the cost for kicking the can down the road for two more years and then feeling the pain when the funds dry up. Now we an additional Trillion in debt at a cost estimated to be a quarter million per job and are only starting to face the pain. Had we done it two years ago the economy could be on the mend now.

No doubt spending a Trillion dollars stimulates at least temporarily. The real question is what was the cost for kicking the can down the road for two more years and then feeling the pain when the funds dry up. Now we an additional Trillion in debt at a cost estimated to be a quarter million per job and are only starting to face the pain. Had we done it two years ago the economy could be on the mend now.

At least you are credible enough to admit the analysis shows the opposite of what most on the right repeat.

However, the quarter million per job is a rather simple minded way to look at the stimulus.

And you are merely projecting that we "kicked the can down the road". The analysis suggests the pain would have been much worse if not for the stimulus. I suggests we would probably have fallen farther, and would be worse off now.....and climbing out of a larger whole.

Rather then kick the can down the road, the stimulus provided some relief while the economy could adjust, with a cusion, rather then fall farther, slam into the bottum, and struggle harder and longer to climb out.

odd we are too stupid to be allowed to invest our own money instead of throwing it into the social security ponzi scheme, yet bam bam is qualified invest our money into garbage like this!

liberal logic.

The problem is the money was borrowed and wasted on temporary jobs instead of long term solutions. Specifically the heavily subsidized and unsustainable clean energy jobs which are now being lost to bankruptcy and money to states to pay for jobs that the taxpayers can not afford. Those jobs are just starting go. All we did was borrow another Trillion that our grandchildren will have to pay and have nothing left to show for it. I don't know about you but it is not the legacy I wanted to leave them.

Solyndra loan: $528 million

BP oil spill: $40 BILLION AND COUNTING

And yet the witch hunt is against the American company struggling to compete against the onslaught of the evil communist Chinese...

LOL Toasty. Who paid that $40 Billion?

Toasty...

And yet BP spent their own money....Obama handed over hard earned American tax dollars and that is just one company he financed that has experienced financial inequities. Obama handed over hard earned Tax dollars to GM to build plants in China and elsewhere in the world. Obama's buddy Imelt managed to garner tremendous "Green Tax Credits" so that GM could expand well beyond our borders....If you think really hard and remove the rose colored glasses you might just see our Commander in Chief as the Wolf in sheep's clothing that he really is.

Why is it that when the Republicans spend money it good but when the Democrats spend money it's bad.

From 1941 to 2009, the only time the debt was less than the GDP has been under Democrat presidents with the except of Nixon's first term and Eisenhower's full 8 years. Every Democrat president with the exception of Roosevelt during WWII has had the GDP grow faster than the deficit. It's true that we're spending too much money now compared to the GDP but only because the economy stinks and Bush's tax cut that benefited the wealth has reduced the federal revenue. On top of that is the interest being paid on the huge debt but only Republicans really believe the country would have been better with McCain as president. Most Independents and Democrats believe the country would be in worse shape under McCain and Palin. That is if Palin hadn't quit by now.

Reagan, G H W Bush, and G W Bush spent money faster that the GDP grew and increased the deficit more than the others before them. Bill Clinton's $1.419 trillion deficit increase in 8 years was less than G H W Bush's $1.483 trillion deficit increase in 4 years. Obama's $3,542 trillion spending so far is still short of G W Bush's $4.521 trillion spending in his last term in office.

All figures are from Wikipedia

Fun fact: The very same Republicans that are up in arms about this are the very same ones that approved it under Bush. Look it up.

What??.

The problem is the money was borrowed and wasted on temporary jobs instead of long term solutions. Specifically the heavily subsidized and unsustainable clean energy jobs which are now being lost to bankruptcy and money to states to pay for jobs that the taxpayers can not afford. Those jobs are just starting go. All we did was borrow another Trillion that our grandchildren will have to pay and have nothing left to show for it. I don't know about you but it is not the legacy I wanted to leave them.

The money was borrowed, but was not wasted. The economic analysis shows it was not wasted.

Sure, the right, and thier blind followers, will point to things like Solyndra and exagerrate them in an attempt to prove what they already believe, but that will not change the expert analysis.

I do agree more should have been done for the long term, such as on education and infustructure, but it is safe to say the GOP is just as responsible for that not getting done as the Democratic party.

And it is true that states were forced to lay off more people this year, partly because the stimulus money to the states ran out (and the GOP blocked further relief), and partly because GOP governemnt at the state level made ideological cuts.

It is also true that we were losing 700,000 jobs per month when Obama took office, and we now have had almost two years of monthly private sector gains......with public sector losses bringing down the total numbers.

Our children will be left with much debt. However, the vast majority of that debt has little to do with this adminstrations policies. Most of the debt was there, or a result of the recession.

It was not approved by Bush, it was shown by the auditors to be a going concern and the Bush administration halted it. It was backburnered until shortly after Obama was inaugurated at which point he ignored all of the experts and put in on the fast track. He then subordinated the debt which is a violation of the law as it relates to US taxpayers debt so that the main investor in Solyndra who was also a big contributor to Obama would not be hurt when the company inevitably went bankrupt. He basically said "I am not going to hurt the investor / contributor, but I am perfectly willing to break the law and throw the taxpayers under the bus". But of course we don't want to let facts get in the way of a good argument.

Of course Boston that's your opinion, right? I would believe that the Republicans would not approve any deal that did not involve an oil company but to say that this is all Obama is hardly fact. As one right wing nut said before, just because you keep repeating it does not make it a fact.

But of course we don't want to let facts get in the way of a good argument.

Of course not. If you ever give any I certainly would look at them but unfortunately you never gave any to look at.

If companies get 'guarantees' from the taxpayers, then there should be some 'strings' attached, such as limits on compensation to officers.

And while we're on the topic, Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac cost the taxpayers about $150 BILLION with their reckless lending practices, so why should their top people get $14 million in 'bonuses' for mediocre performance?

The White House spokesperson gave the lame excuse of their being a non-governmental entity, but when we gave 'bailout' funds to private banks, we put compensation limits on their top people - why should it be any different for Fannie & Freddie, especially since IT WAS THEIR LOOSE LENDING PRACTICES THAT CAUSED THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Instead of putting these crooks in jail, we give them multi-$Million BONUSES? Something stinks really bad.

The Obama administration passed another fiscal milestone this week, according to new data released by the Treasury Department. As of the close of business on Oct. 3, the total national debt was $14,837,099,271,196.71—up about $44.8 billion from Sept. 30.

That means that in the less-than-three-years Obama has been in office, the federal debt has increased by $4.212 trillion--more than the total national debt of about $4.1672 trillion accumulated by all 41 U.S. presidents from George Washington through George H.W. Bush combined.

This $4.212-trillion increase in the national debt means that during Obama's term the federal government has already borrowed about an additional $35,835 for every American household--or $44,980 for every full-time private-sector worker.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-has-now-increased-debt-more-all-presidents-george-washington-through-george-hw

The money was wasted and merely kicked the can down the road. The debt is all we have to show for it. How do you explain all the public jobs lost in California if it was Republican ideological cuts when their government is entirely controlled by the Public Unions and their Democratic Puppets?

Why does this have to be partisan? I don't care which party anyone is, taxpayer money should be sacred. The government should treat it with the highest care, have ample oversight, and if fraud occurs on any level, heads should roll (proverbially speaking, I don't advocate the removal of literal heads.)

I don't even care if it was a paltry $1 million, a "rounding error" as they call it in Washington. That attitude is part of the problem. Every dime the government has doesn't belong to them. It belongs to the American people, and we should all want the highest standards in its use.

I hate that Democrats look at this and respond that "well, other Republicans did worse, so this is okay." It's not okay. I hate that Republicans look the other way when their party is involved and scream to the high heavens the second a democrat is involved.

They're throwing OUR (both parties, we the people and all that) money away! Who cares what party is involved, make it stop! Increase oversight, find corruption, and stamp it out. As long as they can continue foisting the blame off on the other party, and making you suckers believe that it's all those other guys' fault, they'll continue to get away with it. And business will continue as usual, regardless who's in power in the White House or the legislative branch.

Sheesh.

Where's Feisty? We need her help to understand how this is the Republicans fault and how Odumbo is blameless in all this. Feisty? Feisty? Can you hear us...?

Maybe talking about the other story... the friends of the RepukliCONS... "among the 280 most profitable U.S. companies, 30 of them paid “less than zero” in taxes in the last three years, and 78 of the companies didn’t pay any federal income tax in at least one of the last three years."

But no, we need to give them breaks so they can create fictitious jobs that no one can find.. Where are the JOBS RepukliCONS?

The Whitehouse need not "invoke Executive Privilege" to stop this political witch hunt, all they need invoke is The Patriot Act. If it was good enough to keep Dick & George from responding to Congress and out of jail for their war crimes, I'm sure Obama can use it for this, after all, we're still at war with terrorism, right ?

Why doesn't the GOP just stop the theatrics and file articles of impeachment? I mean that is what they do with a GOP controlled house and a democrat in the white house! Never mind all those no bid contracts GOP friends got that cost hundreds of billions!

General Electric made big waves earlier in the year when The New York Times reported that the company paid no taxes in the U.S. in 2010, and in fact claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion

Thanks for bringing that up Doc. You do realize that GE didn't pay taxes and actually got paid by the IRS due largely to the Clean Energy Credits created by Obama under the "Failed" Stimulus. Yup part of Obama's corporate welfare for his campaign supporters. I wonder how many jobs that created.

Gee, the Koch brothers trying to sink solar energy that could lead to thousands of jobs in the U.S.

All in the name of big oil.

The Republicans are indeed on a fishing expedition, they deserve the "executive privilege" that they are going to get.

I can hear the shredders churning right now...going 24/7...what is the carbon foot print of all those shredders eating evidence?...interesting

looks like George Soros' solar energy scam is sinking itself , and we have 2 more of these ignorant companies going under...isn't it cool?

the democrat neo-communists will ride the "green energy" scams and ponzi schemes to the bottom...pretty funny

@Roy Wilson

"Something stinks really bad."...that would be the breath of the neo-communists

and this?... from a parrot: " more should have been done for the long term, such as on education"

hahaha...how many more hundreds of billions do we need to spend on the failed liberal neo-communist education system?...just wondering

You are 100% wrong, Mom. Or rather, 99.1% wrong. BP only had to pay $50 million dollars. The other $39.5 billion was forced upon the US taxpayer. The teabaggers filibustered lifting the liability cap.

The real problem behind any solar power is that this country has entered into this game at halftime after we were in first. Somebody remember President Carter and solar panels well China saw that and is cornering the market while we stay stuck on a finite 19th century filthy fuel. So keep your Koch(I inherited my wealth) Bros. line of thinking and wait to be done in by the Chinese. Keep waving those flags and kissing your bible cause that may be all you got.

Obama sure had a love affair going with Solyndra. He even considered bailing out the company as it was going bankrupt. I guess that's what you do when your money bundlers, like Solyndra investor George Kaiser, are in trouble, just throw more tax dollars at it. Got to keep those campaign contributions coming in you know.

Source:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/solyndra-bankruptcy-obama-administration-bailout_n_1072737.html

JoAnna, you forgot this tidbit though: "Officials rejected the plan, which was recommended in August by the investment banking firm Lazard Ltd. Lazard was paid $1 million for analyzing options related to the faltering company, Solyndra Inc" Seems like it wasn't much of a love affair.

And, Spanky, $535 million was not given to the company. It was a loan guarentee. You know, like when the VA guarentees loans for Veterans? Do you consider it Cronysm when all other government guarenteed loans are defaulted on?

not only do the McCarthist think they were "thoughtful and deliberate" but what about their lack of oversight when King George II and Dick "the Head court jester" Cheney paid off everyone of their jackbooted thug security firms and oil companies with trillions of dollars of stolen taxpayer money and outrageous no-bid contracts to their closest buddies and former employers. Ever heard of Blackwater and Halliburton just to name two examples? How many investigations did this fool undertake against those thieves? You guessed it, NONE! Yet trillions of US dollars were stolen from the taxpayers under the guise of trumped up wars based on lies and nothing but lies and costing 100,000s of lives lost and wasted just to enrich themselves and their cronies seems much more vile and malicious then a loan to try to get a company on its feet to produce clean energy that ultimately cost half a billion at most! When the failed reign of King George II ended the Nation was in two unjust wars and was sinking into the Second Great Depression if you will recall? The country is making strides forward and is progressing at a healthy pace in spite of the obstructionist GOP. Those who act putting their party above our Nation have set their #1 goal to be making President Obama a one term President. Selling military secrets to China is a way to keep President Obama from getting reelected is that what Mitch McConnell would do? If it means trying to sink the US economy to keep President Obama from getting reelected is that what Mitch McConnell will continue to try to do in order to attain his #1 goal? What about making unemployment higher is that a legitimate tactic to achieve your #1 goal Mr. McConnell? Isn't it childish at least and treasonous at worst to allow your personal bigotry to sink the Nation in order to achieve your self-stated #1 goal? IMO we should all push, pull or get out of the way. Put Nation above Party!

JoAnna, you forgot this tidbit though: "Officials rejected the plan,

Yeah, it even got to be too much for the people in Obama's administration. Some bureaucrat finally had the guts to say no.

Gotta know when to hold them, and know when to fold them. You might think about folding rads, you're trying to defend the indefensible.

Maybe we can get the Solyndra execs in front of Congress and ask them about all this. Ehh, never mind, they'll just take the 5th, . . . , again.

spanky

how about the jobless americans? What are Grover Norquist zombies doing about that? 99% expect this to be the priority of the congress. Solyndra is not driving the economy off the cliff rather GOP/TP jealously guided tax cuts the rich and corporations is. Your congress is a do nothing congress.

Amy--I was thinking the same thing--and....

".....we remain committed to uncovering the truth in our effort to protect American taxpayers."

What a crock--"protect the American taxpayers" really? TPGOP is only interested in protecting the rights of the uber-wealthy 1%! Such self-righteous clap-trap! If Solyndra had been a TPGOP project, all this would have been swept under the rug and they would not be so quick to find dirt!

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

PEN - see my comment below.

Problem with you libbies is you just ignore the 16 jobs related House bills sitting in the senate.

Also doesn't wasting $535 million hurt the economy?

Waste is a huge problem PEN.

So, about those 16 bills PEN?

Pen,

Why don't you call up your Senator and ask him why they are sitting on 12 Bills Congress passed to help unemployment and stimulate the economy?

x

JFK2112

OK....Spanky said it's 16 bill you are saying 12 bill........what's up? By the way which congress are talking about because I only know of Grover Norquist zombies. Whatever the numbers, those bill do not represent the 99%.

our effort to protect American taxpayers.

Like you protected them by spending $215,183 to "reaffirm" our national motto with a non-binding resolution (i.e. legislatively impotent)?

That was the approximate cost of the legislative session. We pay congressmen and women $174,000 a year to work 9 days a month? Is that how we protect the American Taxpayer?

Just got to say that all the bills "sitting in the Senate" are B.S. put there by the GOP/TP so they could defend themselves from doing nothing about jobs... we all know they are non starters, only help the 1% who the GOP/TP belong to (have been bought and payed for)... So, these bills are no justification, they are simply political tools who the GOP/TP are getting as much mileage out of as possible... total B.S.

The department DOD has created a far-reaching memorandum of understanding with the Department of Energy to help accelerate the innovation process in service of the nation's energy and national security goals. DOD and DOE are working cooperatively on advanced batteries, energy efficiency, microgrids, and 'smart' technology," said the report.

Concurrent with this shift in policy, DOD clean-energy investments increased from $400 million in 2006 to $1.2 billion in 2009, a 300 percent increase. The institution plans to invest even more, projecting its green-tech investments will reach $10 billion annually by 2030.

Warner said he's not surprised that the DOD will once again be the leader in a new space as it's always been one of the earliest supporters of cutting-edge technology.

"The Department of Defense fostered the Internet, GPS, computer software, and other economically important innovations. Today, our uniformed men and women and their civilian counterparts are committed to transforming the way the department uses energy through efficiency and technology development. Their accomplishments and innovations are enhancing our national security, our economic security, and our environmental security," Warner said in a statement.

why aren't some of you ranting against the DOD "investments" that have turned sour ?

many billions have been lost here too !!!

Good question...we always hear about waste and fraud in other programs but somehow dems and reps both choose to ignore the widespread abuse of our defense dollars....why so many chickens when it comes to looking at a part of the budget that is nearing 1/3 of the total?

I'll answer my own question...because the right has cowered the nation with their flag waving faux patriotism even as they hid their own kids from the wars...lmao

Since when do we call eliminating the EPA a jobs bill??? That really is the biggest thing the Republicans want...eliminate the EPA so the Koch brother can destroy the environment.

[...another shinning example...]

And Spanky's a "lawyer", you know...apparently one who wouldn't know the difference between a loan and a loan guarantee if it kicked him in his peas...

[Since when do we call eliminating the EPA a jobs bill???]

Well, maybe the GOP/Tea Party is confused...they think eliminating jobs IS a jobs bill...

I hate the TP but most of all I am tired of all of the elected officials in Washington, because there are not looking out for us there are looking after their best interests and those that keep them full of election money, BOTH Dems/ Reps/TP. I also think that the President MUST provide anything that concerns his performace and President. NO Executive Priviliage when a LEGAL subpoena is issued. Just think of it that 550 MILLION dollars would have paid for alot of real things like Roads, Education, and the list goes on.

16 bills related to jobs passed out of the House so far this year PEN.

The last on - to remove the 3% hold back on federal projects was in Obama's Job's bill, and supported by Reid.

So Pen, why is it sitting in the Senate with out a vote?

Why won't Reid allow a vote on something he supported, and Obama supports?

PEN, perhaps, in light of the 16 bills, you should direct your point to the dems?

SPANKY

GOP/TP 16 bills are not for the 99% rather it's keep the status quo. 99% know whom you're fighting for like the 30 large companies that didn't pay income taxes from 08 - 2010.

PEN

I am in the 99%. I do not agree with you at all. Please refain from lumping so many good Americans in with your group. Maybe 20% of the 99% agree with you, maybe.

No income taxes, eh PEN?

Why then perhaps the IRS and DOJ ought to crack down?

Or is it you are just full of ThinkProgress drivel?

16 bills Pen.

Now tell us what the Progressive Caucus or Pelosi is up to these days?

ANy bills at all? How about Reid?

Good Golly PEN Reid can't even get a budget out, which as you know is required by law.

PEN?

Of course Reid can't get a budget out, budgets must originate in the HOR. The law doesn't require that the Senate pass just any budget either.

Really raddave - you sure?

Let me give you a hint - google 1974 Congressional Budget Act.

Maybe it's just a coincidence that there has always been a bugdet, eh raddave?

Might be fun.

Say, has the House passed a budget?

How about when lady Pelosi was in charge - did it do so then? And just why did she say "we don't need a budget?"

Seems silly, no?

PEN: GOP/TP 16 bills are not for the 99% rather it's keep the status quo.

Oh, so now you do acknowledge that there are jobs bills passed by the House and collecting dust on Harry's desk.

That's progress.

Now, please elaborate why each of them are not for the "99%-ers" and are for the "status quo".

The Congressional Budget act of 1974 only sets the proceedures for Congress to pass a budget. It does not set a requirement that one be passed every year. The House did pass a budget and it was rejected by the Senate. Also, did the House use the Budget request that the President submitted to it when formulating their budget? No, they didn't.

Deflect much?

Obama's budget?

The one that went down 97-0?

Are you kidding me?

Oh and you need to re-read the actual 1974 Act. you are wrong.

But then again you just trotted out the 97-0 budget, so....

It "went down 97-0" because it was a purely political move by McConnell to bring it up for a meaningnless vote. In order for the Senate to actually vote on the Obama budget, it would have to pass the House first. You need to re-read the actual 1974 budget act AND the U.S. Constitution.

rad - if obama never wanted a vote why did he submit it? The fact is, he asked for it not to be voted on because he was going to come up with a better, newer one after the mood of the country changed. He still has not.

It's the equivalent of voting "present"

Mr, Obama did not submit the budget to the senate, He submitted it to the HOR, per the Congressional Budget act of 1974. It was "rejected" in the Senate, because the vote had no meaning, as it would not be a "passed budget bill" Because budget bills MUST originate in the HOR.

The House passed bills sitting in the Senate are all riddled with poison tack-on amendments the House Republicans knew the Democrats could never vote for . Why don't you bother to read what's in the bills rather than just spread typical right wing disinformation as usual? Oh right, because you don't give a @!$%#e about what's in the bills as long as you can use them as anti- Obama propaganda. Children.

Independent - NO it was rejected by the Bush administration. The request for funds was received during that time but the Bush administration looked at it and saw it for what it was, A WASTE.

It was NOT rejected by the Bush administration, it was deferred and more information was requested. Get your facts straight.

Spanky, the Bush administration did not reject it, as you wingnuts claim. They wanted more information, so they did not make a decision. Obama did not approve it, the DOE did.

Spanky loves to rail against the president, but will never take responsibility or look for responsibility from the republicans for wasting taxpayer dollars in tow unfunded wars and a medicare prescription drug plan. Nope. Nothing to see here.

I am refi-ing my house right now as a matter of fact.

Either they lender gives me the money or they don't.

Did the money come form Bush? Nope.

Oh and who appointed CHU, and who is the boss?

Come on, your arguments keep getting weaker.

Why is responsibility so hard for you libbies?

Did this money for the loan come from Obama? No, it was just a guarentee.

Deflect much?

Love how the Obama Worshippers blame the DOE when the rush on the loan approval was to get a Solyndra photo op into Obama's schedule. Documented in memos that have been provided. No, he won't be able to blame this on the racists, or Bush, or the DOE. He got caught red handed scratching the back of a donor who had scratched his. Problem is he used taxpayer money.

What about the billions in subsidies to the poor Oil Industry?

How is it a "rush" when it took over 2 years to be approved?

but in 2009 when the WH was putting pressure on to approve the loan the OMB emails clearly describe a rush:

one official in an email: “the time pressure we are under to sign-off on Solyndra.”

another : “There isn’t time to negotiate.”

Aug 31, 2009 “We have ended up with a situation of having to do rushed approvals on a couple of occasions (and we are worried about Solyndra at the end of the week),”

“We would prefer to have sufficient time to do our due diligence reviews."

“Given the time pressure we are under to sign-off on Solyndra, we don’t have time to change the model,"

The WH even officially admitted they were short on time due to an event planned for Biden. How can you do your due diligence when Valerie Jarrett has a dog and pony show planned for you? There is also now a question of what model was used in approving the loan guarantee, based on the fact that there was concern about changing it.

nah, no rush there raddave

Viktor, the documents the Whitehouse is turning over are the same documents the committee already has. Its a stall tactic by the Whitehouse because they are trying to cover up their involvement. There are hundreds of documents that the Whitehouse refuses to hand over, hence the subpoena.

And the supoena will probably just be ignored, just like prior administrations have done when it comes to Congressional supoenas.

But, raddove - this was to be the "Most transparent administration EVER!"

Are you saying they were not telling us the truth?

Ah well, another campaign promise bites the dust, eh raddave?

He did say that - about the transparency, right?

If that is the case, so much for the "transperancy" vow of this administration.

Sticking with your talking points I see.

The initial requests came much earlier and were ignored. The documents started coming as a result of a subpeona issued in July. Those documents raised even more questions, hence the second subpeona.

If this loan to Solyndra was so above board, as the liberals keep saying, then why is there so many pages concerning the loan, especially from the WH, and why is Obama being encouraged to invoke "executive privledge?"

BTW, those that keep referring to this loan as started under President Bush might want to CheckFact the truth. The Bush energy plan was passed in 2005, money for Solyndra was turned down. The money by the Obama administration came from the Presidents 2009 stimulus bill not Bush's program.

SFC, you need to CheckFact the truth. The guarentee for Solyndra was NOT turned down by the Bush Administration, they deferred making a decsion and requested more information.

raddave - doesn't matter, the Obama Admin put a rush on this loan and American voters will be seeing that clip of Obama posing at Solyndra repeatedly next fall. He can't teleprompter his way out of this one.

If it was applied for before Obama became President, then there wasn't much of a rush put on it.

raddave,

Typical liberal response, that fact is that the loan was not approved by the Bush Administration, in fact the money didn't even come from the Bush energy plan. It came from the 2009 Stimulus bill, you know the one signed by Obama.

sfc, typical wingnut response, the fact is that the loan was not rejected by the Bush Administration either.

raddave, was the loan approved by the bush administration? No, correct? The fact is it was deferred because the numbers presented did not make sense, and more information was requested. You would agree then, based on 20/20 hindsight, bush's deferral was correct or would you like to argue bush SHOULD have approved it? What exactly is your point?

Mr, my point is that the wingnut talking point of the Bush administration REJECTING the loan guarentee are false.

when raddave doesn't like how badly the truth looks he just talks it up to wingnut talking points. poor fella's going to be smarting when this all rolls out and Obama's fingerprints are all over it.

rad --your parsing. Facts are facts, the intial request was in effect "rejected." Maybey not a big red stamp saying "REJECTED," but nonetheless, it wasn't approved either. It's a weak, weak argument you're presenting and has zero relevence.

You've been schooled 10 times already, you should crawl into a hole somewhere and hide.

MR, you talk about parsing? It was NOT rejected. That is my point.

raddave, somebody in the Bush admin did their homework and put the brakes on, much like someone at the DOE tried to do with Obama but to no avail. He had a campaign donor to reimburse.

For Bryan in Pa..

Much of the $1 trillion in stimulus money that has been spent has gone to unions and union jobs. Obama is keeping more than half of the original stimulus money in reserve to buy votes for himself and other Democrats in 2012.

Taxpayer money has been used to bail out union pension funds and government pension funds that heavily benefit union members, including those in the teachers unions. Large portions of Chrysler and General Motors were given to the unions. The unions in turn will give political support to their benefactors,

The American Federation of Teachers, for example, has donated $27.7 million to political campaigns over the last two decades, $27.4 million of which went to Democrats. In other words, literally 99 percent of their political donations went to Democratic candidates. The National Education Association isn’t much better: They have donated $30.6 million in the same timeframe, $28.5 million of which went to Democrats. That’s “only” 93 percent; compared to the AFT, they’re paragons of bipartisanship.

Because bush set a precedent of giving congress the back of his hand when he didn't like them asking something...I wonder why the next guy would do the same thing?

Sorry if this has been said already but Zero aka Barry Soetero aka Barak Obama pushed through the loan and when the business folded like everyone knew it would the CEO wrote another fat check to the Obama re-election fund for 500,000k.

Kinda like the return from the Tony Rezko deals Obama helps Tony get land deals then Tony repays Obama with a million dollar chunk of land for 100k The tax payer return on investment is awful but Obama once again gets a fat payoff for corruption.

Correct me if I am wrong but you know you can't so all you libtards that support this sows ear need to piss off.

Admnistration has already handed in over 85,000 pages of documentation. Read more, you might learn something.

Bryan, that was AFTER THE SUBPEONA, prior to the subpeona they would not release the information. Get your timeline correct.

No need to defend me. If a liberal doesn't have a reason to slander or degrade someone, they're not happy. I thoroughly read the article, my comment was about supposed "transparency".

Thats right so transparent they don't try and hide the corruption anymore.

Hence why a President should not have the ability to hire and fire the head of the Justice dept.

Should be a job we the people elect the person to.

sorta like the stimulus going to obamas union buddys....... of course, you wont hear about that either

Killer,

Which union buddies were they again?

Every speech that he has made, and every talking point they make is to keep Fireman, Police, and Teachers employed. Either to save jobs, or hire more. Wasn't it our VP that said without the passing of the new stimulis bill that the crime rate would increase? Direct stimulis to the unions. Teachers Union, Firefighter and Police Unions. I don't have a problem with them stimulating those careers, but wasn't that the point of the previous stimulis as well? Yes, we need them, but we also need jobs in other careers as well. What about stimulis for IT Design, hairdressers, landscapers, plumbers, electricians, home builders, any electronics manufacturers, hell even a Walmart greeter. Just don't pick and choose what career to invest in.

Until the issue of public employee legacy costs is addressed, we will be forced to pay for less man-power to patrol the streets, on call for a fire and teachers in front of the classroom. These unions will not sacrifice to increase their numbers. They spike their salaries the last few years of service to pad their pensions and we can only pay so much.

there's 15+ bills the house has sent to the democratic controlled senate. They're locked up in there.

Government is not in the business of creating jobs to think otherwise is foolish.

Private industry is where the jobs are and we don't have enough of that with the last 25 years of off shoring jobs.

Hint it will get worse regardless of which political side holds the reigns.

No, we'll let the FBI fight this one for us. As a nation of laws it won't be up to one side or the other, it will be up to the justice system.

You just about got all the Rush Limpball's talking points into your post. I bet he will reward you well.

raddave, name one item that is untrue. You people are great at slogans and making fun of anything conservative, but why dont you list what is untrue that he said.

Killer,

Still waiting for that list of union buddies you claim the president paid off. Unless you were lying or towing the party line given to you by Mr. Limpballs.

Killer, it's all untrue. These are "huge scandals" only because it was a Democtratic administration that did them. The Bush administration had an operation that was almost exactly like "Fast and Furious" and not a peep was mentioned of it.

raddave, "almost exactly like" F & F ..... except a border agent was killed and the AG claims he had no idea what was going on with the guns even though gun dealers were questioning what they were witnessing. hmmm

kstarr, the fact is that the prior administration had an operation that did the same thing as "Fast and Furious" and no one thought it was a scandal then.

raddave, it did SOME of the same things, but it was not the same program. You have some serious gaps in your information raddave. Lay off the Ed Shultz Show for awhile man, it's messing you up.

This is a huge issue much like Iran Contra and has been for ever.

Makes crazy guys like Rev Wright almost look sane.

To say that the AG Eric Holder the head law enforcement guy of the land is allowed and should get up in front of Congress and lie is not a big deal is wrong.

Janet Napolitano aka big sister instead of big brother also lied through her teeth both of these people have committed a crime in doing so.

Alex Jones has video testimony from 2009 of Big sister discussing operations on gun running and tracing tracking guns through Mexican cartels which was (I believe televised on CSPAN).

Thousands of guns released into Mexico bought from us gun merchants using straw buyers which they were going to then say see see we can't control private gun sales so the second amendment should be voided and no one should be allowed to own guns anymore.

Which side left or right is not relevant both sides are corrupt and should be dealt with in kind.

This operation Fast and furious and operation gunlocker has killed people on both sides of the border and the heads are pretending to not have knowledge of the events even with video testimony from both from 2009 and you don't care?

kdo------ more GOP made him do it? LOL!

kstarr1,

Please explain where you came up with your statement. kdo said nothing about blame. You are an ignoramus. Not that i expect you to know what that is.

@kdo6819 - ALL REPUBLICANS ARE TRAITORS

Ohhh KDO, does that mean you have actually met one of those monsters? You must be so brave! Is it true that they are purple, with horns and eat Democrat babies? And you are so smart to know that not a single one of them is a patriotic American. I would never have known that; it's a good thing that we have you to tell us.

this is the biggest crock I've ever seen or read!!!!

Do you know what money laundering means?

kstarr1: Watch as your money is spent by the hundreds of thousands by an Arab car thief/arsonist with an agenda....

Ken Starr did the same to the tune of millions....a HUGE waste of time and money....

The SEC and the FBI have enforcement and prosecutorial powers....why not let THEM do the job? Of course you wouldn't want THAT would you....it would not put the BLACK DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT in a bad light would it?

Much ado about nothing....that's all it is....and come 2012, Issa will be out of a job with the flip to the Democrats as the MAJORITY PARTY AGAIN.

And as "raddave" states, "Do you know what money laundering means?"

It would seem that you don't have the foggiest.

Good luck with that....

It can mean a lot of things. Follow the money - works every time.

Solyndra ------> Obama Campaign ---------> Solyndra engages in heavy duty lobbying ----------> Taxpayer Money -----> Obama -------> huge loan to failing Solyndra --------> Bankruptcy protection leaves Taxpayer with nothing.

iheardthisbefore, maybe you heard this before too but the FBI has raided Solyndra and is conducting an investigation in conjunction with the Inspector General of the DOE.

kstarr, money laundering means only one thing. Do you know what the meaning is?

raddave, oh no it does not. A person can be charged with money laundering under different circumstances. You have this issue with the truth though, so you have no credibility.

Money laundering is the process of hiding money taking from illegal activities and make it look like it came from legal sources. It has NOTHING to do with Campaign contributions connected to a loan guarentee. You are a complete idiot.

we all thank google for helping you with that, maybe the FBI raid was just for grits and shins then huh brilliant one?

Money laundering is about hiding the actual source of the money whether it is ill gotten from crime think Kennedy prohibition alscohol running or drug proceeds, stolen, derived from an offshore source like contributions from foreign countries which is illegal under campaign finance laws.

Even honestly earned money can be laundered to avoid heavy taxes such as taking cash for work and not writing a receipt.

Raddave stop being a rabid leftwing hack.

Deflect much?

Ask that question much?

Worried your government pension is wrapped up in these little investments? If only, I bet you'd be singing a different tune.

For those of you who don't know, lt is a troll who lives off taxpayer welfare.

and Mr is a closet homosexual that watches gay porn when his wife is not at home. Just another sexually confused and repressed Republican

My my libel anyone?

Wow....

Another Limbaugh fan.

You left out "birth certificate", Kenya and a bunch of other WINGNUTOPIA.

Make sure and vote for MR. 9,9,9 if he makes it to the "alter of greed".

1. Obama is a communist, and his next step, in order to get elected, will be to stir up as much trouble as he can to distract us from his objective of destroying this country as we know it.... believe me, he is not done killing this country yet....

Wrong, words still have meanings and you have no evidence to support this.

2. Look at Europe and Greece. Have we yet not learned that Socialism does not work? Stop all welfare programs right now and send all illegals back where they come from.

Wrong. Greece got into its current position by hiding how much money it was borrowing for years, with help from Wall Street banks no less. Blaming it on 'Socialism' (which it isn't btw) is like blaming Obama for the 2007 fiscal crisis while forgetting he wasn't President until 2008.

3. Start a welfare program that makes people WORK for any benifits they recieve, or if unable, make them verify it. Mandatory drug tests before any checks are issued.

How would this fix anything at all when the underlying issue is that there aren't enough jobs for all the people who want work?

People like you spreading misinformation is what is keeping this country from addressing underlying causes of problems instead of assigning blame. I feel sorry for how disappointed you will all be if a 'conservative' becomes President and the problems remain, just look at what the GOP controlled House has done to fix the economy, jack squat. Why would you believe more of the same from that school of thought would do any better?

Start a welfare program that makes people work for any benefit? Funny, when Obama proposed to do just that, you wingnuts complained about him trying to make a secret army.

raddave, that is not what obama proposed. Remember, he wanted a 'civilian force to rival the military?" If those words do not give you pause, I don't really care, because they do for me.

unfortunately for worshippers such as raddave, nothing Obama says or does could ever give him pause. He steals money right from under his nose to payback a campaign donor who skims off the top of it and raddave just says "Bush done it".

What MR is talking about is included in Obamas communist health care bill. It gives him control over his own Army that will rival our military.... That alone, along with his communist and terrorist friends, should be enough to put this dude in prison forever. Yet you libs have swallowed all the Media hype, cant think for yourself, will not take your mouths off the goverment teat, and continue to just blindly follow your failed leader

You three are clueless, aren't you? I suppose you can read whatever you want into what someone states, but bending the truth in some purely partisan effort to attack the leader of our country is childish. I suppose the Peace Corps must be a paramilitary organization, huh? I mean, it does have "Corps" in its name, right MR? Do you have trouble sleeping knowing Kennedy's army is out there waiting to get you?

How old are you? killer, can you even DEFINE communism? Wow.

I don't see why he should be. Nothing is going to happen to him. These loans were approved from the prior administration.

Fact, show the proof. They were not approved by the prior administration, you're lying.

Energy Policy Act of 2005 under GW Bush made it possible for diversified Federal energy development loans.

Obama rolled the dice on Solyndra to boost domestic solar energy panel production to compete with the Chinese. It didn't work. The company went bankrupt.

Nothing is going to happen to Obama because of that. Meanwhile a billion dollars disappear in Iraq and no one even gives a flying crap and I'm supposed to be upset that he tried to create some manufacturing jobs here?

Please.

FOM if that's the case, the Obama admin will happily come forward and show us the approval, dated 2008 under the Bush admin of course. Right? We can clear this whole mess up very quickly if he would do that.

What's that you say?

He's too busy campaigning? Oh.

Then the investigation continues. See you Nov 2012 sucka!

Then the investigation continues. See you Nov 2012 sucka!

I'll be at the Obama reelection victory buddy.

Fact of the Matter - After reviewing the details the Bush administration said no way. The auditors opinion was basically that it would not likely make it. Obama fast tracked it after ignoring all of the experts and BROKE THE LAW BY SUBORDINATING THE DEBT, in other words it is against the law for the US taxpayers to stand in line when a company goes bankrupt but as a result of the primary investor and a huge Obama supporter and contributor OBAMA KNOWINGLY HAD THE LOAN AGREEMENTS AMENDED SO THAT THEY TAXPAYERS WERE THROWN UNDER THE BUS AND NOT THE INVESTOR / CONTRIBUTOR WHEN THE COMPANY INEVITABLY FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY.

Regardless of Democrats and Republicans, why was the FBI sent in if there is not something very wrong with what happened?

Gee, Boston, I guess it's all settled, then, huh? Obama broke the law according to you - I suppose you will be the one that prosecutes the case, since you are the biggest legal expert out there. I mean, if it is so obvious that laws were broken, Obama should already be dealing with his impeachment, right? Why bother with any subpoenae when we have you there with your capitals and all to straighten everything out.

Amazing.

LOL @ you bringing up Iraq, when Congress approved it. Furthermore, how many billions were wasted in Libya? Talk about throwing cash away on a worthless cause.

LOL @ you bringing up Iraq, when Congress approved it. Furthermore, how many billions were wasted in Libya? Talk about throwing cash away on a worthless cause.

If that is seriously the best thing you can come up with on Obama you guys really are desperate to see him gone. When he wins reelection, your tears will energize me.