Corzine, top Obama fundraiser, under FBI investigation

AP

President Barack Obama (left) campaigning for former New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine (right) in Holmdel, N.J., July 16, 2009. Corzine lost reelection to Republican Chris Christie.

Jon Corzine, now the center of an FBI investigation into the handling of hundreds of millions of dollars invested in his securities firm, was one of the leading Wall Street fundraisers for President Obama’s campaign and suggested to investors that he might take a top administration post if the president were re-elected.

His new legal troubles, sparked by the bankruptcy filing of his investment firm, MF Global, could complicate the president’s efforts to raise money from the financial community given Corzine’s central role in those efforts.

A recent list of top “bundlers” or elite fundraisers released by Obama’s campaign listed Corzine in the highest category -- reporting that he had raised more than $500,000 for the campaign. A substantial chunk of those funds were collected at a $35,800 per ticket fundraiser that Corzine hosted at his wife’s spacious Fifth Avenue apartment last April -- an event that was touted at the time as part of a concerted effort by the president’s campaign team to reach out to well-heeled Wall Street donors who had been alienated by some of his policies and previous public comments.  

Just a few months after that event, Corzine’s firm, MF Global, surprised many Wall Street investors by issuing highly unusual securities notes that appeared to highlight Corzine’s close relationship with the White House: The notes suggested that the former New Jersey governor might be in line for a top administration post should the president get re-elected.

The notes promised to pay an extra 1% in interest rates in the event of “the departure of Mr. Corzine as our full time chief executive officer due to his appointment to a federal position by the President of the United States and his confirmation…by the United States Senate prior to July 1, 2013.”

Some veteran Wall Street analysts said they couldn’t recall ever seeing such a contingency written into securities notes. “It was bizarre,” said Christopher Whalen, a Wall Street analyst.

There was speculation in the financial press at the time that Corzine might be a candidate to replace Tim Geithner as Secretary of the Treasury. But today, an Obama campaign official declined to comment on Corzine’s legal troubles -- or whether Corzine was ever being considered for an appointment.

“He’s one of our volunteer fundraisers,” said the campaign official when asked about Corzine, adding that the president’s is the only presidential campaign that discloses the identities of its bundlers.

The investigation into Corzine’s firm, MF Global, was triggered by reports of hundreds of millions of dollars in missing funds and findings by regulators that MF Global may have broken rules requiring it to keep client’s money and company funds in separate accounts.

Ironically, on the same day that Corzine’s legal troubles were erupting -- posing potential problems for the president’s Wall Street fundraising efforts -- GOP rival Mitt Romney was holding one of his biggest New York fundraisers yet at a midtown Manhattan hotel.

A copy of the invite shows the fundraiser had more than 100 co-chairs, many of them top executives on Wall Street such as hedge-fund billionaire John Paulson, who has already donated $1 million to a “Super PAC” backing Romney’s candidacy. 

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Oh Goodee!

Finally some red meat for the wolves! lol

Campaign financing needs to be reformed on both sides of the aisle!

A great start would be for Congress to act on repealing the atrocity known as Citizens United!

Get the money out of politics!!!

  • 45 votes
#1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:05 PM EDT

adding that the president’s is the only presidential campaign that discloses the identities of its bundlers

Interesting...

Any guesses as to WHY?

  • 28 votes
#1.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:10 PM EDT

Hey, FR must have hired Bob numerals after all!

Neat.

Or not.

  • 13 votes
#1.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:24 PM EDT

Wow the OWS crowd isn't going to like this. Maybe they should search around the camp and find an unemployed graduate or tattoo artist who isn't paying his student loan and was foreclosed on by the evil banks to lead this country to prosperity....

  • 41 votes
#1.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:26 PM EDT

Fiesty - You said it! Demand full disclosure by every politician. NOW! And watch them walk backwards....it's pretty funny. In this case the ones screaming the loudest against the request will be the ones with the most to hide. Guaranteed.

  • 30 votes
#1.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:45 PM EDT

Fiesty,

Wolves to feed on?

This the least of his worries.

  • 17 votes
#1.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:04 PM EDT

Yea fiesty, hurts your pride when your ilk gets caught (again) But, you should have known that birds of a feather flock together. (so do crooks) While they are at it they need to take a closer look at BHO's friends and money bundlers (Like Corzine) at Solyndra, 550 million, Sunpower1.2 Billion, Tesla motors, 500 million, Fisker motors (in Finland no less), 529 million, the other crooks at Fannie mae and freddie mac that received millions in bonuses for running a failed company (again) and the other 67 "so called green companies" that have received billions! The money wasted on these few companies alone would have created thousands of jobs in the oil industry. What a disgrace!

So much for the most "open and transparent administration ever"

  • 65 votes
#1.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:19 PM EDT

I don't agree with Fiesty a lot, but I also agree that all campaign funds should be open record for the public to see.

But isn't the President backing the OWS, yet taking money from those Wall Street guys, the people on the streets, do they know this? Are they mad at the Prez? Or just those guys on Wall street that go to their jobs everyday?

  • 37 votes
#1.7 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

How about just getting the crooks and liars out starting at 1600 Penn Ave, Washington D.C.??

  • 49 votes
#1.8 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:31 PM EDT

Under investigation is okay. Under guard would be better.

The point is proven once again - sleazy finance creates corruption in government, not the other way around. Banks do not recruit from government policy makers - banks infiltrate government with their 'best and brightest' to create policy for the bank's benefit. Trying to fix the problem by trashing the government simply ignores the problem.

The only way to fix government is to jail the sleazeballs buying influence and infiltrating government. The only way to cure a cancer is to remove the tumor ...

  • 19 votes
#1.9 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

He was Obama's "Wall Street Guy."

So much for Frank-Dodd, eh gang?

What happened to all that regulation?

  • 43 votes
#1.10 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:34 PM EDT

A copy of the invite shows the fundraiser had more than 100 co-chairs, many of them top executives on Wall Street such as hedge-fund billionaire John Paulson, who has already donated $1 million to a “Super PAC” backing Romney’s candidacy.

For all the people on the left and the right that are fighting on the vine and taking sides. Think about that quote for a bit and then tell me how can "regular" folks compete with these guys? They can buy access that we can never dream of having. That is what is troubling. We need mandatory term limits in the House and Senate. If it's good for the POTUS, then why doesn't the rest follow the same schedule? I am tired of the corruption on both sides.

  • 24 votes
#1.11 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:34 PM EDT

Come on Bob,

Even as conservative as I am, we know that Washington DC is just an entire city of crooks & liars. Not in just one place, but the entire place. I believe in campaign finance reform.

Several points on this:

If someone is paying for a campaign using their own money--then they can spend it like they want, no disclosure. If they are taking campaign contributions from others, then those contributions should be open to the public. No money from the federal election committee should be repaid to anyone. If there is money there--it should go to pay off the debt. And I don't care how much a person donates to a campaign, as long as it is disclosed to the public. That way we can see who is paying our politicians off.

But that is my personal belief.

  • 26 votes
#1.12 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

What this really reflects is the corruption on Wall Street. Who likes any of them, whether Summers, Geitner, or Cozine? How can Washington find this experience without the revolving door?

At least President Obama banned lobbyist via 2-year conflict of interest agreements. The money in politics is the main problem, and once again, in comparison to Republicans (Romney, Scott brown, etc.) the president is still far less beholding, still raising more money from individual contributions.

After yet another Teapublican scandal with Herman Cain under scrutiny, of course the right-wing is desperate to counter it. They are even getting their undies in a bundle over ACORN again. But the problems with Cain and his campaign manager Mark Block, who has already been busted for breaking campaign finance laws, are so blatant. And the ties to the Koch brother's Americans for Prosperity is obvious too.

All the Astro-Turf groups with the word "Prosperity" in the name are interlinked and conducting fraud on behalf of the the Teapublicans. Try as they may to find scandal on the other side of the aisle, we all know who the biggest offenders are--Teapublicans and the Koch brothers, Dick Armey, Karl Rove--nothing compares. At least money from the Left Coast (Hollywood, Silicon Valley) given to Dems is given with no expectations, even unions are a better source (what, you're obliged to help the working class?).

It is a Right-leaning SCOTUS responsible for the Citizens United ruling, so now what's good for the goose has to be pursued by the gander, or lose elections. There's no choice but to raise a lot of money including special interests.

  • 13 votes
#1.13 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:39 PM EDT

BigBear -- Good for you for standing up for campaign finance reform. Kudos. You would think everyone could agree on that at least. ; )

  • 11 votes
#1.14 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:49 PM EDT

Anti-Obama Dirty Laundry Lists are funny. Fiskar, Tonopho should be taken off mkay? K thx.

Tonopha = loan is guaranteed thanks to deal with NV Energy

The purchase agreement is a key element of the project and will "provide assurance that there are sufficient revenues in place to support the loan guarantee," Crider said.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-solar-loan-guarantees-20110928,0,7847145.story

Fiskar = just like the New York space shuttle controversy (Intrepid Air and Space Museum), once a deal is made the company or organization that secured the deal makes changes that then constitutes a "scandal"

Henrik Fisker said the U.S. money has been spent on engineering and design work that stayed in the U.S., not on the 500 manufacturing jobs that went to a rural Finnish firm, Valmet Automotive.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/car-company-us-loan-builds-cars-finland/story?id=14770875

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:53 PM EDT

So what is the OWS's position of the fat stacks of cash and bonuses that the heads of Fannie and Freddie just got?

Let's see they are government run and fully funded, yet they just passed out $12 million in bonuses.

Surely this is outrageous not just to a OWS protester, but to all the corporate hating libbies here.

So gang, where is the outrage?

Surly, if huge bonuses by private companies is bad, huge bonuses given out by the government is worse?

  • 33 votes
#1.16 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:54 PM EDT

Spankit, that regulation now has the FBI breathing down Corzine's back. It's a bad time to be a bad boy on wall street. He might be made an example (as he and others should).

  • 18 votes
#1.17 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:56 PM EDT

TruePatriot-445959

I'm not real sure that Cain is a Tea Party republican. Can you provide proof or is that just more liberal spin? You lotus eaters are constantly harping on the Koch brothers whose monetary ties to the republicans are questionable. After all, they are professed libertarians. More liberal spin? Why do you hate the Kochs so much. George Soros whose contributions literally allowed the Democratic Alliance to come into being is much wealthier then the Koch brothers is never questioned. And he has been convicted of insider trading and is blamed for almost bankrupting the Bank of England and making a cool billion off that deal. And remember he is one of those hated hedge fund managers.

  • 17 votes
#1.18 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT

Notice to the Democrats it is always about campaign finance or something else. It couldn't be the fact that many of their own politicians are corrupt.

  • 18 votes
#1.19 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:00 PM EDT

The American people, including OWS, know damn good and well that electing a Teapublican president would mean more right-wing appointments to the Supreme Court = more Citizens United types of rulings.

Obama/Biden - 2012!

  • 12 votes
#1.20 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

Good try Spanky. Another non-troversy. Dont get me wrong I think such bonuses are BS but the below "private sector talent" arguement has merit.

FHFA’s acting director, Edward J. DeMarco, told Congress last year that the managers who were at the helms of the mortgage companies during the market collapse were dismissed but also argued that generous pay helps lure “experienced, qualified” executives able to manage upward of $5 trillion in mortgage holdings amid market turmoil.

Compensation at Fannie and Freddie is, in fact, 40 percent below pre-government takeover levels, according to the FHFA, though those pay packages before conservatorship involved stock awards, while the current payments are exclusively cash. But compensation at both corporations, in particular Fannie Mae, has been a contentious issue since long before the 2008 financial meltdown...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  • 6 votes
#1.21 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:02 PM EDT

Rick -- I know the TP has different groups. One group has a spokesperson that appears regularly on CNN and has repeatedly stated they like Cain. Maybe you could look on CNN for video.

  • 4 votes
#1.22 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:04 PM EDT

"One of the leading Wall Street fundraisers for President Obama’s campaign under FBI investigation"

The leading Wall Street campaign bundler for the President who received MORE PAY OFFS ("campaign contributions") from Wall Street THAN ANY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.

With taxpayers guaranteeing the six biggest banks (Frank-Dodd-Obama "too big to fail") THEY HAVE SKYROCKETED IN SIZE along with BANK EXECUTIVE BONUSES KICKED BACK to OBAMA at $38,500/ plate OBAMA FUNDRAISERS. Obama is WELL ON HIS WAY to a $ 1 BILLION reelection war chest FROM WALL STREET KICK BACKS.

Why aren't the OWS protesters out in front of the White House protesting the Chicago-Thug-in-Chief?

________________________________________________________________________________________

Vote Tea Party Patriot 2012 END THE WALL STREET--WHITE HOUSE CRIME CONNECTION

  • 27 votes
#1.23 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:13 PM EDT

To somebody who has lived in Chicago for most of my life, this is absolutely no surprise. And why does Obama even need a campaign war chest? He can couch his re-election tour as a stump for his agenda while in office and get the taxpayers to pay for all his campaign appearances.

  • 19 votes
#1.24 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT

@Spanky -- A big bank is a big bank. A malignant tumor is still a cancer. Why is Freddie Sachs and Fannie Sachs any different than Golden Sachs? All political parties in Congress keep dumping more money into the 'too big to fail' banks. Government policy favors 'too big to fail' banks instead of community banks. When was the last time anyone heard about a community banker making government policy? When was the last time the head of a community S&L was Treasury Secretary?

Government policy makers, recruited from 'too big to fail' corporations, create policy that favors 'too big to fail' at the expense of REAL people. Cancer is not liberal or conservative - it is just a self serving disease. Just as cancer destroys the body - big banks destroy the body politic ...

  • 6 votes
#1.25 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:19 PM EDT

lET'S SEE:

Jahmekin - this is the regulation? FBI raids AFTER $8 billion lost and $700 million missing. Huh, see I was kinda thinking the regulation was to prevent, i.e. - stop this crap from happening.

Besides, per Mike below - the FBI is only involved cause Obama called then. :) Cause he is looking to nail the guy he called his "Wall Street Guy" to the wall.

Sure he is.

Adidas - fat bonuses for failure? Fannie and Freddie are literally bleeding money. Crap - Feisty could do a better job. I bet she'd do it for $15 per hour and an ham sandwich every Tuesday.

Nerm - you lost me. Private is private, Fannie and Freddie are the opposite, plus they have no shareholders to answer to, just corrupt politicians like Frank and Barrack "I am totally surrounded by Wall Street Fat Cats" Obama.

So again gang - where is the outrage for millions of dollars going to Freddie and Fannie.

It's wrong, right?

  • 18 votes
#1.26 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:30 PM EDT

Spanky,

Have to agree with you on a point, Freddie & Fannie shouldn't be getting any kind of bonus, until every American Tax dollar sent to them through their bailout has been completely repaid and every American citizen has received their dividend check from the US Government for the use of our money to bail them out.

Of course, those libs will only say it wasn't our money that bailed out Freddie & Fannie, it was the money we borrowed from China--which of course will cost us more because of the interest being piled on the borrowed money.

  • 13 votes
#1.27 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

Dont_carry_it_all

Rick -- I know the TP has different groups. One group has a spokesperson that appears regularly on CNN and has repeatedly stated they like Cain. Maybe you could look on CNN for video.

#1.22 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:04 PM CDT

I know the Tea Party has different groups but not all republicans are Tea Part as suggested by some posters by their use of Teapublicans. Still sounds like liberal spin to me. All of the liberal posters villainize republicans in one way or another. That seems to be the way liberals work. BTW, I was just watching CNN where I found out that Joe Biden has invited Eric Cantor over to his house for dinner. A casual observer could come to the conclusion that the Vice-President is trying a little harder to get along with congress than our President.

  • 6 votes
#1.28 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT

Rick-312779 -- It is the "establishment" Republicans like Karl Rove who are backing Romney who see Cain as the Tea Party alternative, but the 9-9-9 tax plan would certainly fall in that category. True that Cain blew it when explaining his position on abortion, because studies show the Tea Party is more about God, gays and guns and intervening in people's lives than it is about "small" government -- Certainly not about job creation.

The more investigations there are into Astro-Turf organizations like Americans for Prosperity (Koch brothers) and the numerous "Prosperity" affiliations, Freedom Works (Dick Armey), and American Crossroads (Karl Rove) that all goes back to Big Oil, the more disconcerting it is. If not connected to Big Oil, Romney is very connected to Wall Street, as well as Scott Brown and other Republicans.

Please enlighten us on how George Soros is operating on similar levels, with multiple Astro-Turf organizations, backed by FOX Noise and Hate Radio, raising money for campaigns -- You can't because Soros isn't involved in this. Stop listening to the right-wing conspiracy theories and get some facts. Otherwise, please don't vote. Voting is a responsibility, not just a privilege.

  • 6 votes
#1.29 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

Additional follow-up: Voting records show the Tea Party and establishment Republicans vote the same way. God, gays and guns = the same old platform along with "trickle down" voodoo economics, and now "starve the beast" destructive anarchism. They are indeed one and the same, thus "Teapublicans" is an accurate term.

  • 6 votes
#1.30 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:04 PM EDT

Wow.... I really hope you aren't as naive as you appear TruePatriot. Soros is no better than the Koch bros. Maybe you need to do a bit of research into a man you seem to think is clean. He's been under legal pressure for awhile now for some shady dealings. Plus, he funds quite a few far left liberal organizations.

Republicans and Democrats are both equally dirty, to claim otherwise is just buring your head in the sand.

  • 10 votes
#1.31 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:05 PM EDT

Wow feisty redwig's comments are very consistent with with her belief that reality is only an illusion that occurs due to a lack of alcohol.

As my grandfather used to say, she is the 'turd in the butter churn' which otherwise would be a decent liberal blog. Don't get me wrong feisty is an effective weapon against the damaging effects of the corruption of today's version of liberalism!

Corzine is just the tip of the iceberg, solyndra and fast and furious other corrupt issues with direct ties to the White House have not yet played out. We are rid of Weiner and soon Corzine..... if the old liberal media was honest, they'd pay more attention to the real dirt facing the country!

  • 31 votes
#1.32 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT

Corzine = Democrat = Goldman Sachs = guest of Obama at White House = Obama campaign contributor

ABO 2012, more than ever!

  • 25 votes
#1.33 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:15 PM EDT

And all this will go unnoticed because of the Cain sexual harassment stuff.

  • 9 votes
#1.34 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:17 PM EDT

Not true Fiesty but you keep trying to make a silk purse out of that sow's ear you love so much. Obama didn't take public money last time because it gives him more room to hide who is giving what! Everyone else took it and it therefore more accountable.

  • 15 votes
#1.35 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:24 PM EDT

AlexM-2364525 -- I provided the names of the organizations linked to various GOP/TP fund raisers. I hate to break it to you but your mere personal opinion means sh!t without providing substance to back it up. Where are the organizations Soros is linked to that are raising funds for Democrat campaigns? You can't provide this because it doesn't exist.

Saying that both parities are equally dirty is fallacious argumentation. Not only does it not make a case in favor of Teapublicans, it is a "two wrongs make a right" lack of logic. There is always a lesser of two evils, and Teapublicans have become downright treasonous.

Are YOU and fellow conservatives really so naive? Buddy Roemer for example does not accept contributions of more than $100, but you don't know who he is. I'm not a Republican and never will be but I know who he is. I have a family member who follows Hal Lindsey, but doesn't know Hal is an Evangelical who bases everything on the Bible. You get out of your right-wing Echo Chamber and Cone of Silence and do the homework.

Establishment Republicans like DeMint, Bachmann, etc. are not new. In 2010, every single Tea Party candidate ran as a Republican. They all vote the same way. The Tea Party is just a fringe minority that has always existed in the GOP whether the John Birch Society, the Moral Majority, or what have you, and they are still friggin' wrong and need to be thrown out.

  • 6 votes
#1.36 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:27 PM EDT

TruePatriot-445959

The Tea Party wants to intervene in people's lives? Really? What do you call, Obamacare, spread the wealth, give everyone a house and destroy the economy, the rich should pay more, cut medicare payments for the elderly and on and on and on. Your man Obama's rush to Socialism. Now that iintervening in people's lives.

And the Tea Party scares the hell out of you guys that's why you are always knocking it! God , GAys and Guns? What up with that line?

  • 13 votes
#1.37 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:29 PM EDT

Sorry, it is the Democracy Alliance:

The Democracy Alliance is a partnership of business and philanthropic leaders who commit to making make human and financial donations to organizations the Alliance has endorsed. Since its founding in 2005, the Alliance has helped direct nearly $150 million to progressive organizations.

A PowerPoint presentation, "The Conservative Message Machine Money Matrix", created by Rob Stein and shown to individuals and small groups of donors in 2003 and 2004, is often credited as being the impetus for the group's formation It was formed with major backing from George Soros and Tim Gill


In July 2006, Rob McKay was elected chairman of the board and Anna Burger of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) was elected vice chair.

There was a huge list of organizations funded by the democracy alliance but they all have been removed. Organizations like media matters and moveon.org

  • 5 votes
#1.38 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:32 PM EDT

Everyone else took it and it therefore more accountable.

Get back to me after you finish reading 'Campaign Financing for Dummies' will ya? ;o)

I hear it's also available on a audio book for the stuck on stupid crowd!

  • 4 votes
#1.39 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:33 PM EDT

TruePatriot-445959

The American people, including OWS, know damn good and well that electing a Teapublican president would mean more right-wing appointments to the Supreme Court = more Citizens United types of rulings.

I know it, and that's why I'm voting for "other than Obama". BTW, I think the OWS kids know it as well, since they campaigning for Obaba.

  • 7 votes
#1.40 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:55 PM EDT

Did I miss something or did First Read totally FAIL TO MENTION that Jon Corzine is a Democrat ?

As the "Church Lady" would say .... "Well isn't that convvveeeennnnniiiiiieeeeeeennnnnnnnttttttttt !

  • 11 votes
#1.41 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:59 PM EDT

Woohooo!

(What a Freak Show)

    #1.42 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:59 PM EDT

    Wow, Feisty maybe you need to take your own advice. :-)

    • 9 votes
    #1.43 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:00 PM EDT

    If you took away the dogma by another twenty telepathic pseudonymous men all written word for word "she" would become reticent.

    • 3 votes
    #1.44 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:06 PM EDT

    Other news articles today simply report on Corzine's own history. It seems this one is falling over itself to ....fill in the blank.

    Everyone now pray that you were never in photo with Corzine, or Clarence Thomas, or ........fill in the blank. Plus there is always tomorrow when someone you know turns out to get busted for something like......fill in the blank.

    So keep manufacturing those ol' crystal balls for us.

    • 3 votes
    #1.45 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:09 PM EDT

    Obama, like all other politicians, is infected by the big bank/big business parasites. At least Obama's infection is not as severe ...

    Ask any conservative if Obama is anti-business and why. It's because Obama has called for more regulation, more taxes, has called the Wall Street bankers what they are - fat cats. Obama has been calling for policies that will actually cost him more money.

    The conservatives will cite Obamacare as the most anti-business legislation to ever be enacted in the United States. Conservatives do not even stop to consider that Obamacare may mean the difference between affording a full term pregnancy or only affording abortion. The conservatives will cite the moratorium on deep oil wells in the Gulf - choosing big oil profits over Main Street livelihoods in the Gulf fisheries. The conservatives will select a Herman Cain as their champion - actually one of the parasites that is attempting to promote self serving government policy.

    Corzine is only one of the parasites - a worm, a tick, a bloodsucker. Parasites just like Corzine have attached themselves to both parties. Those parasites are feeding on the government. It is time to treat the parasites and cure the government. If your dog has worms - you do not kill the dog - you remove the parasites ...

    • 4 votes
    #1.46 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:15 PM EDT

    @TruePatriot

    I'm at work so don't have the time to go read back through Google to quote the proof, but I'm sure you're intelligent enough and might possibly have the time to do so yourself. I know it's there because I've seen it weekly.

    As far as my personal opinion, I'm a true independent, so I have no forks in this fire. It's the main reason I get so much humor out of reading each side attack each other and call each other names :)

    It also gives me the ability to see through clear glasses that both sides are equally corrupt and neither side really has any right to point fingers.

    • 3 votes
    #1.47 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

    The historic Wall Street Reform act was put in place by this Administration: to prevent a repeat play of the catastrophic free-fall of our economy that began in 2007 & that will take years to dig our way out of.

    Republican congressionals are trying to repeal Wall Street Financial Reform. And they want to defund it:

    That is how much the Do-Nothing-But-Kill-Jobs Party cares for the American people on all sides of the aisle & the future of this country = Zero-zero-zero.

    The President has accomplished so much despite an Opposition that seeks to damage the US economy, privatize it and bring us all under the control of Big Money.

    • 4 votes
    #1.48 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:23 PM EDT

    Sally, while I agree with your post... isn't it a little strident for you? Monkey Wrench Gang forever!

    • 4 votes
    #1.49 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:23 PM EDT

    well backhouse, you once again have been bitten by the "blame someone else bug.

    Tell us all please how more government control will help our economy over the long run? Tell us also on just how effeiciently government manages taxpayer dollars? Feel free to mention also on how well government encouraged the populace to spend, spend, spend and use their homes like an ATM machine.

    Encouraging an ever increasing government presence in our lives will take us further and faster down the road than what the conservatives you fear so much ever will. Conservatives understand what the constitution meant about government looking after the "general welfare" of its populace. Liberals only think that they are the entitled ones and that effective government needs to control every action made by the individual. Sorry, we already know from experience and observation on how that plays out.

    • 3 votes
    #1.50 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:02 PM EDT

    SSSColorado,

    I like your taste in writers " Monkey Wrench Gang" Edward Abby. but not your taste in politics.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 1 vote
    #1.51 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:02 PM EDT

    Feisty - Mis-understand the Constitution much? Congress can't repeal a decision by the Supreme Court. SCOTUS has the final say. What they could do is enact a Consitutional Amendment that clarifies the standing of corprorations in regard to which Constitutional protections apply.

    • 3 votes
    #1.52 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:04 PM EDT

    Funding libertarian organizations - NOooo the family the Neo Nazi Coors Family etc

    The Claude R. Lambe Charitable
    Foundation is one of Koch Family Foundations. Several of the organizations in
    the list below were founded by one of two Koch brothers, Charles G. Koch or

    Dhttp://www.sourcewatch.oOrganizations fundedavid H. Koch to pursue their ideological agenda

    Below is a list of
    recipients listing the cumulative amount, unadjusted for inflation, granted by
    the Claude R. Lambe Charitable Foundation<1>
    1) Cato Institute
    $8,450,000
    2) Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $6,025,375
    3) George
    Mason University $2,311,149
    4) George Mason University Foundation, Inc.
    $2,074,893
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    • 4 votes
    #1.53 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:15 PM EDT

    You speak of 'Government control':

    When 72% of the Americans on all sides of the aisles want the provisions in the American Jobs Act to be passed by Congress;

    When two-thirds of our people want the top 0.02% to pay fair taxes AND a majority of millionaires agree;

    So Who do you think is controlling our government?:

    When Republican Congressionals keep saying NONONONO, while the American people are saying very loudly and clearly -

    YESYESYESYESYES.

    • 8 votes
    #1.54 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:17 PM EDT

    What they could do is enact a Consitutional Amendment that clarifies the standing of corprorations in regard to which Constitutional protections apply

    Your comment falls under the no @!$%# Sherlock catagory!

    You can parse words all you like - bottom line is Congress is the ONLY one who can repeal the atrocity!

    See my comment #1!

    PS: Spell check is your friend Brian... lol

    • 3 votes
    #1.55 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:19 PM EDT

    Poor Obama. He gave Bush/Cheney/Rice/Yoo war criminals a pass by not allowing DOJ investigation of illegal acts by the Bushies, but now his rich, corrupt friends are being investigated by the feds. Too bad all the top Resmugs and Dems are corrupt. The entire system should be indicted and sent to jail, including the lobbyists and corporate kings and queens.

    • 2 votes
    #1.56 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:24 PM EDT

    ...

      #1.57 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:37 PM EDT

      So, Perserve - could you please do the same thorough analysis of Rupert Murdoch, George Soros, Joseph Lewis, T Boone Pickens?

      The way I see it, there are not saints - and trying to make one as evil regardless of the good they do or, make another blameless regardless of the wrongs they do is the wrong road to travel.

      Corzine's dealings had long been know by all to be below board. Apparently, finally he has stunk enough that he had to be investigated - to keep the agency some credibility.

      BTW - did you ever hear that you are known by the company you keep?

      • 1 vote
      #1.58 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:42 PM EDT

      SSSColorado,

      I like your taste in writers " Monkey Wrench Gang" Edward Abby. but not your taste in politics.

      Obama/Biden 2012

      MN Nice.... I appreciate your recognition of Edward Abbey's work! Desert Solitude was one of my favorites... but MWG was more popular.

      As I get older my political beliefs have changed... I've learned liberalism looks great on paper, but historically is an abject failure. Obama is a great example of that... never send a neophyte to do a man's job... that's what we've done here, and we all should know that that experiment has failed.... he's not only lied to us but now has become a Corporate patsy..... he owes too many favors to Soros, GE, and others that his message of Hope and Change have been corrupted. If he can't lead us out of this mess, and I don't believe he can... then we need real change. ABO 2012!

      • 8 votes
      #1.59 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:43 PM EDT

      It appears that carrot top has given up for the day... poor gal, it has been tough on the old bird. How many Corzine's and Weiner's can one protect against the overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

      When Chris Dodd and Barney Frank eventually get indicted for their roles in the Real Estate crash feisty will lose her wig forever! I for one will be very happy when those two fall.... ! Thanks to the old liberal media that won't probably won't happen until there is a change in Washington! ABO 2012!

      • 7 votes
      #1.60 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 9:09 PM EDT

      Eric-913730

      "And all this will go unnoticed because of the Cain sexual harassment stuff."

      There is nothing but anonymous allegations. Have you stopped beating your wife? Prove it. lol

      Teflon Don Obama needs a new coating. His "friends," the fat cats Feisty loves, are starting to stick to him.

      • 2 votes
      #1.61 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 9:11 PM EDT

      Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

      What they could do is enact a Consitutional Amendment that clarifies the standing of corprorations in regard to which Constitutional protections apply

      "Your comment falls under the no @!$%# Sherlock catagory!

      You can parse words all you like - bottom line is Congress is the ONLY one who can repeal the atrocity!"

      Wrong. While congress is the only body that can start the amendment process, it will require 2/3 votes in both houses just to get it started. Then it requires 3/4 of the states to ratify it. Big cities control the elections with their socialist votes, but most states are not on the socialist bandwagon. Good luck with a constitutional amendment for anything socialists want. Double down, whine, stomp your feet, and then get a clue.

      Chicago politics got America into this mess. Illinois is the only state that is all about population control, by refusing to let law abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns while it crime rate in big cities remains high.

      • 3 votes
      #1.62 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 9:45 PM EDT

      Shaking my head-2479300-- As stated before, the Tea Party and Republicans are one and the same. What do you call warrant-less wiretaps? How about the Terri Schiavo intervention? And now, what do you call "personhood" amendments that would make birth control, miscarriages, fertilization procedures, etc. under government scrutiny as well as making abortion in cases of rape/incest and the mother's life in danger as criminal? What do you call drug tests for citizens to receive assistance, though Wall Street was bailed out with no strings attached?

      That's called Big Government. It's not just about size but more importantly civil/individual rights and invasion in our private lives. Turn off FOX Noise and Hate Radio--it's frying your brain.

      • 7 votes
      #1.63 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 9:47 PM EDT

      Ask yourself who is committing the crimes and who is voting for Obama types. They are the same.

      • 2 votes
      #1.64 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 9:50 PM EDT

      TruePatriot-445959

      "That's called Big Government. It's not just about size but more importantly civil/individual rights and invasion in our private lives. Turn off FOX Noise and Hate Radio--it's frying your brain."

      I don't pay attention to FOX news. You must because you seem to know all about it. Is your brain fried because of it. Do you believe all of the leftist media to cool it down? Do tell.

      I must admit that I do like Dennis Millers comments when I can hear them. Not often enough as I don't have the cable TV you have. Too expensive and a waste of $, but it seems you like to waste money, like the government.

      • 2 votes
      #1.65 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 9:54 PM EDT

      Rick-312779-- I applaud your use of Wiki, but you should have gone to the website for Democracy Alliance. You will see who is on the board and what the organization is about. There is NO mention of a candidate. Now go look at Heritage Foundation (Newt was affiliated with this), and others mentioned above (Super PACS) and you will see they are raising campaign money for specific Teapublicans.

      Bob-3374873 -- You are a well-known troll who posts non-stop drivel and wastes everyone time--and time is money.

      BTW folks, Congress can pass legislation to counter the effects of the SCOTUS Citizens United ruling. The Dems tried to do so right after the ruling, but Teapublicans blocked it. Imagine that. If you are against that ruling, vote the Teapublicans out.

      • 6 votes
      #1.66 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 10:11 PM EDT

      Concerning Fannie and Freddie why does anyone heading those up require any kind of bonus, much less millions. They're government created entities. Just provide them a government salary appropriate to that postion.

        #1.67 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:15 AM EDT

        Larry, I too feel such bonuses are BS however the below "private sector talent" arguement has merit.

        FHFA’s acting director, Edward J. DeMarco, told Congress last year that the managers who were at the helms of the mortgage companies during the market collapse were dismissed but also argued that generous pay helps lure “experienced, qualified” executives able to manage upward of $5 trillion in mortgage holdings amid market turmoil.

        Compensation at Fannie and Freddie is, in fact, 40 percent below pre-government takeover levels, according to the FHFA, though those pay packages before conservatorship involved stock awards, while the current payments are exclusively cash. But compensation at both corporations, in particular Fannie Mae, has been a contentious issue since long before the 2008 financial meltdown...

        http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

        • 1 vote
        #1.68 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 12:59 PM EDT

        TruePatriot-445959

        "Bob-3374873 -- You are a well-known troll who posts non-stop drivel and wastes everyone time--and time is money."

        If time is your money, then I am guilty. As for being a troll, I am a life long democrat who likes the tea party and don't need to resort to name calling to make a point, like you do.

        "BTW folks, Congress can pass legislation to counter the effects of the SCOTUS Citizens United ruling. The Dems tried to do so right after the ruling, but Teapublicans blocked it. Imagine that. If you are against that ruling, vote the Teapublicans out."

        Congress can pass any legislation it wants to pass but without a 2/3 vote and 3/4 of the states ratifying an amendment to the constitution, it is powerless to override any SCOTUS ruling. Deal with the truth.

          #1.69 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 8:50 PM EDT
          Reply

          Thanks to First Read for actually posting a story which has negative connotations for Obama. Onc ein a blue moon.

          However, to state the problem is it "could complicate the president's efforts to raise money from the financial community", is too cute by half.

          This highlights the total hypocrisy of the "class warfare" Obama has undertaken. Obama and Corzine are joined at the hip.

          Goldman Sachs, Wall Street crony capitalists, and Obama. A story the media has yet to tell.

          One aspect not mentioned: Corzine used his political connections to gamble with public employee union pension funds. These funds have lost millions due to Corzine's risk taking at MF Global.

          This may result in another taxpayer bailout !

          • 38 votes
          #2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:07 PM EDT

          Congrats to President Obama for having the fortitude to publish his bundlers, and get his FBI to investigate Wall Street wrongdoers and bring them to justice.

          Now, if we could just get one Republican candidate to do the same.......

          • 20 votes
          #2.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:21 PM EDT

          Ironically, on the same day that Corzine’s legal troubles were erupting -- posing potential problems for the president’s Wall Street fundraising efforts -- GOP rival Mitt Romney was holding one of his biggest New York fundraisers yet at a midtown Manhattan hotel.

          A copy of the invite shows the fundraiser had more than 100 co-chairs, many of them top executives on Wall Street such as hedge-fund billionaire John Paulson, who has already donated $1 million to a “Super PAC” backing Romney’s candidacy.

          • 15 votes
          #2.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:22 PM EDT

          Nice try Bob trying to spin this as an Obama issue...if the pres is guilty by association then so are the current crop of republicans...Which means the entire congress and WH is bought and paid for...Can we agree on that?

          Money buys access to power which leaves the bulk of the American people out of the process which means that the laws are skewed in favor of the wealthy....Just look around you...BTW I have enough enough $ and I am a business owner in the manufacturing sector so don't try to frame this as "class warfare."

          • 15 votes
          #2.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:24 PM EDT
          Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          Bob-1887910

          Thanks to First Read for actually posting a story which has negative connotations for Obama. Onc ein a blue moon.

          However, to state the problem is it "could complicate the president's efforts to raise money from the financial community", is too cute by half.

          Sponge Bob,

          You just got your fill why don't you STFU.

          Darrel Issa should be investigated.

          The Appearance of Impropriety in Darrell Issa’s Office...

          http://issawatch.couragecampaign.org/index.php


          • 5 votes
          #2.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:27 PM EDT

          Bob, it has recently become apparent that Mr Cain's campaign began with illicit funds and not only that but the one at the heart of the issue is the very same one that blows smoke in your face and he has been caught at the very same act in his past. How do you feel about that?

          • 10 votes
          #2.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:33 PM EDT

          Ha what difference does it make, the supreme court insured that the money will never stop flowing for Obama or anybody else.

          Superpacman to the rescue!

          • 9 votes
          #2.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:38 PM EDT

          Thanks to First Read for actually posting a story which has negative connotations for Obama. Onc ein a blue moon.

          Gee whiz Bob I bet your the guy everyone talks about when they say you complain if you were given a million dollars and the bills weren't the right denomination.

          • 5 votes
          #2.7 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:45 PM EDT

          Whats missing is what the FBi is investigating- $700 million in customer funds that just "POOF!" vanished.

          Works like this- an investor can choose a brokerage firm to place investments. Said investor can choose to invest in the firm itself- or invest in other entities.

          Such funds must be kept separate. Seven hundred million in customer funds, supposed to be in their accounts, is gone. Those funds were probably used to prop the company.

          This is called embezzlement.

          Corzine got booted from Goldman for financial funny business. He got booted from New Jersey for the same thing- investing pension funds in Lehman- not blue chip stocks, but the investment house when it was clear it was on the rocks. He gambled and lost- with public money.

          He diverted a billion in highway funds to a tunnel to nowhere- after he created an entity that held the bonds for the project.

          He's as crooked as they come. Figures he was another big Obama bagman.

          • 17 votes
          #2.8 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:54 PM EDT

          MkeMike -- Another classy post. To the point and full of truth.

          • 5 votes
          #2.9 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:01 PM EDT

          Yea, and just think Bob, ron corzine (after running NJ in the ground) was at one time in position to be in BHO's Cabinet.

          • 8 votes
          #2.10 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

          The difference here Forrest is they made a big deal out of Dodd-Frank.

          You know cause we can only be protected through more regulation.

          So what happened? 40:1 debt to equity, 8 billion lost, and $700 million missing.

          Now the best part is the regulators said they only became aware of this little issue in the last week.

          Guess they don't read the Wall Street Journal. You know the one that was covering this absurd $8 billion gamble on PIIG debt for 2 months.

          Forrest - perhaps the regulators no regulate Obama friendlies?

          Now that might just get an old whore like Isikoff a Pulitzer. Except there is no way he'd touch it with a 10 foot pole.

          • 9 votes
          #2.11 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT

          Ha Ha, Ms. Cut and Paste Beverly got collapsed? Why because she spews hatred like no other...

          • 6 votes
          #2.12 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:03 PM EDT

          MkeMike,

          Obama did no such thing. The FBI investigation is independent from the White House, as it should be. The POTUS doesn't direct the FBI, especially when they are PART of the investigation.

          • 6 votes
          #2.13 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

          From JFK "why because she spews hate like no other"

          Nope, not Beverly.

          It is, however, a very accurate description of YOU!

          • 5 votes
          #2.14 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:28 PM EDT

          Yeah, about that NewDay.

          I loves me some Bev. like no other, but just a little while ago she told someone to STFU.

          Now I don't speak text, but I suspect that was not an invitation to share her milk and cookies, right NewDay?

          • 7 votes
          #2.15 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

          Spank,

          You know Bev, you have misinterpreted her STFU--it meant "Stop the Freakin' Unemployment"!

          • 3 votes
          #2.16 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:18 PM EDT

          Forrest - perhaps the regulators no regulate Obama friendlies?

          And perhaps the regulators no regulate Bush friendlies either, this certainly is not the first brokerage house to collapse, no regulate Brenie Madhoff, no regulate crap. I don't quote you often Spanky, but I will this time, "whores every one".

          • 1 vote
          #2.17 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:19 PM EDT

          Ah, but Forrest, it IS the first house to collapse post Frank-Dodd.

          Now I know you get the distinction.

          Cause after all I sat here and heard how super important and totally necessary Dodd-Frank was.

          And yet it appears to have completely failed.

          UNLESS, the regulators were not regulating certain people.

          So Wall Street Fat Cats are more equal than others, don't you know. Why I know a few of the more equal variety - Geinter, Summers, Daley, and until Sunday at 3:00pm, Corzine.

          Great photo at the top, eh? Think that'll get used often to pin the Fat Cat o Obama?

          • 4 votes
          #2.18 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:03 PM EDT

          Of course wall street fat cats are more equal whats new about that, like I said before it's only an issue for republicans when a democrat is involved.

          • 1 vote
          #2.19 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:09 PM EDT

          Forrest - Dodd-Frank is the actual issue here. That it is a dem smoking the pole is just gravy.

          You libbies said we must have regulation to save us from Wall Street. The big brains gave us Dodd-Frank.

          We now see it is a total failure.

          Shocked. I am shocked.

          Now Forrest stop your dance and address the actual issue. Say it with me - Dodd-Frank.

          Man, can Frank be a bigger idiot?

          • 4 votes
          #2.20 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 7:29 PM EDT

          Is Frank the regulator, because if the regulators did not do there job it is not his fault. If we have a law but it is not enforced properly that does not make it the laws fault or mean the law should be scraped, just means the people responsible to enforce the law screwed up.

          • 1 vote
          #2.21 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 9:28 PM EDT

          Off topic,

          Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, the hybrid semi-private mortgage entities, are issuing seven figure bonuses to some of their executives. There is not one peep out of the media or the professional protesting mobs. No one is averse to this, no groups are planning to picket the homes of the executives. The White House is silent, both houses of congress are mute. No one is threatening to drag these people before hearings to explain themselves.

          A Republican senator is now on President Obama to cancel the $12.8 million in bonuses that were approved for 10 executives at the government-seized mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that received a $170 billion taxpayer-funded bailout.

          Question,

          Is this ok, are these bonuses justify? Do you think the president should step in? If so, why.

          • 1 vote
          #2.22 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 11:46 PM EDT

          thetotas you are not off topic you are ON hehe. Here was my response post #1.12

          http://on.msnbc.com/tBeFL7

          Good try Spanky. Another non-troversy. Dont get me wrong I think such bonuses are BS but the below "private sector talent" arguement has merit.

          FHFA’s acting director, Edward J. DeMarco, told Congress last year that the managers who were at the helms of the mortgage companies during the market collapse were dismissed but also argued that generous pay helps lure “experienced, qualified” executives able to manage upward of $5 trillion in mortgage holdings amid market turmoil.

          Compensation at Fannie and Freddie is, in fact, 40 percent below pre-government takeover levels, according to the FHFA, though those pay packages before conservatorship involved stock awards, while the current payments are exclusively cash. But compensation at both corporations, in particular Fannie Mae, has been a contentious issue since long before the 2008 financial meltdown...

          http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

          • 1 vote
          #2.23 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 12:59 AM EDT

          Yeah I am sure the Prez personally initiated the FBI investigation. Good try, but no cigar.

            #2.24 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 10:50 AM EDT
            Reply

            The best thing this President could do would be to set an example and repudiate and reject ALL donations from Wall Street. Sarah Palin was correct in her comments concerning "crony capitalism." If Corize is charged and convicted then he should go to prison. Simple as that..Enough of these paper pushers who destroy jobs and have stolen millions from the American people! Down with the Wall Street aided by their Pimps on K Street and their Whores in Congress. They have turned us all into a bunch of "johns."

            • 13 votes
            Reply#3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT

            Well after receiving a record amount during his campaign from wallstreet and then trash talking about them and their large bonuses (they are private companies) I don't think he will have to worry about that come next election. But, I have to ask this question. WHEN IS BHO GOING TO SPEAK OF THE OUTRAGE ABOUT FREDDIE MAC AND FANNIE MAE GIVING THEIR LARGE BONUSES TO THEIR EXECS THAT HAS LOST BILLIONS OF TAXDOLLARS. WHAT A HYPOCRITE! (OR DEMOCRIT, TAKE YOUR PICK!)

            • 9 votes
            #3.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:31 PM EDT

            @John Private companies that we taxpayers bailed out!

              #3.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT
              Reply

              It must be tough to send your own FBI to crack down on someone that is raising money for your re-election campaign. Thank you, Mr. President, for standing up to corrupt Wall Street types, even though it may result in your having less re-election funding.

              I'll be sending my check today to help make up a small portion of the difference. Keep up the good work!

              • 18 votes
              Reply#4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT

              Mike, have to give you credit, trying to spin this as Obama 'standing up to corrupt Wall Street" is the very definition of chuzpah...

              Kind of like thanking Al Capone for making Valentine's day a well known holiday.

              • 20 votes
              #4.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

              MkeMike, good point.

              • 12 votes
              #4.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

              Mike do you actually believe your own b.s.? You can't be that nieve...no one can....except a liberr... Never mind.

              • 12 votes
              #4.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:35 PM EDT

              Oh, so Obama makes the decision as to who the FBI investigates, eh Mike?

              Really. Does he decide who the regulators look at too?

              Why that explains why all those regulators sucked, again and $700 mill has gone 'missing.'

              Who did Obama call first to get this investigation going Mike?

              • 12 votes
              #4.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

              Spanky,

              Governmental representation in an administrative capacity of any kind can be considered administrative agency. The president is an administrative agent whose enabling statute is the federal Constitution. The thirteen executive departments reporting to the president are administrative agencies. For example, the department of justice is a cabinet-level executive department, but it functions as the administrative agency that addresses the legal concerns of the U.S. government and its people. The departments housed within the Department of Justice, such as the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, are also administrative agencies, and they have procedures and rules of their own. Because the president is generally able to appoint the chairs or fill vacancies within these agencies, the president is often able to influence their activities, notwithstanding the limitations on the removal of the heads of the agencies.

              So, when will the GOP release the names of their campaign finance bundlers? Hmmm? We'd sure like to go after them as well.

              • 8 votes
              #4.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

              Uh, Mike, what?

              Your point was Obama sent the FBI, correct?

              Yeah, that's just flat wrong.

              Although I like your little blurb. Shall we apply it to Fast and Furious and the DOE? And man could you imagine if the FBI ignored this little debacle? Oh my!

              But until then, I ask again - who did Obama call at the FBI, and when, to get this rolling?

              Oh, and what is your source?

              Also - the fact that Corzine was on Obama's campaign team is just funny. This here is about investor fraud, over leveraging and missing millions.

              So tell me, what do those crimes have to do with GOP bundlers?

              • 11 votes
              #4.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:37 PM EDT

              Mike, nice try on your liberal goof ball statement. Corzine is a true blue crooked dem just like Obumer. As governer he destroyed NJ that's why he was voted out and Obama started crying about his loss. Want to try again! LOL............

              • 8 votes
              #4.7 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:54 PM EDT

              Good point Mike.

              • 2 votes
              #4.8 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:04 PM EDT

              Spanky,

              I didn't say Obama called anyone at the FBI. He simply put the appropriate people in place to ensure that Wall Street scammers get prosecuted. Unlike the previous pResident, who couldn't even bust a terrorist network that was taking flight lessons without learning how to land or take off.

              It's all in the people that you hire and the mindset that you create in the workplace....

              • 5 votes
              #4.9 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:18 PM EDT

              Spanky,

              And one more thing. If you want to respond to a post, don't put words in the writer's mouth.

              Obama = competency, a word that Republicans have forgot the meaning of....

              • 5 votes
              #4.10 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 5:25 PM EDT

              [...don't put words in the writer's mouth.]

              Spanky's good at that...he's a "lawyer", you know...oh, and a liar...they go hand in hand, and Jr. can't seem to separate his "counselor" life from his "internet" life...

              • 4 votes
              #4.11 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:06 PM EDT

              Nice try Mike, but that is exactly what you said:"... to send your own FBI..." and "Thank you, Mr. President, for standing up to.."

              So you see Mike, them there is your own words - Obama sent them in and Obama stood up.

              What's the matter you don't like your own words?

              And brother is this is your idea of competency...well, then that explains an whole lot.

              • 4 votes
              #4.12 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:08 PM EDT

              MkeMike

              You are way, way off on that one. The CIA noted that those Arabs were taking those lessons way back in 1998. You do know that the CIA by charter is prevented from conducting investigations in the US? So they should have called the FBI, right? But wait, Jamie Gorelick by executive order prevented the CIA and FBI from communicating with each other.

              Jamie S. Gorelick born May 6, 1950) is an American attorney, presently representing BP.[1] She was Deputy Attorney General of the United States during the Clinton administration. She was appointed by former Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle to serve as a commissioner on the bipartisan National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, which sought to investigate the circumstances leading up to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and also served as Vice Chairman of Fannie Mae. Her involvement in many of the major tragedies and high-profile American scandals of the past two decades has led some in the press to dub her the "Mistress of Disaster.

              • 2 votes
              #4.13 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:21 PM EDT

              Researching Jamie S. Gorelick was a good read. Appears you are laying blame on a lawyer that was support be Dems. Pasted just enough of the wiki to make your case.

              She claimed she built the "wall" between intelligence agencies and law enforcement but then the 9/11 commision report stated the below.

              ...former senator Slade Gorton (R-WA), a member of the 9/11 Commission, who said, "nothing Jamie Gorelick wrote had the slightest impact on the Department of Defense or its willingness or ability to share intelligence information with other intelligence agencies." Gorton also asserted that "the wall" was a long-standing policy that had resulted from the Church committee in the 1970s, and that the policy only prohibits transfer of certain information from prosecutors to the intelligence services and never prohibited information flowing in the opposite direction

              She obviously is ultimately self-serving and was not a Dem but an imposter. Lobbying against student loan reform now tsk tsk. SHAME!

              • 1 vote
              #4.14 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 1:25 AM EDT
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              Corzine should be under investigation. What is it with former Goldman Sachs CEO's? Greed, corruption in Wall Street firms seems to pass as acceptable. Glad to see more scrutiny. From the bits I've heard and read, his company has a lot of questions to answer and missing money. That said, just because Corzine was a top fundraiser for President Obama (or for any presidential candidate, right or left) doesn't mean that candidate is guilty of anything other than accepting campaign donations. Same goes for republican candidates.

              The fact that President Obama's campaign discloses its donors, bundlers and the others do not begs for investigation as to why those other campaigns do not disclose.

              • 14 votes
              Reply#5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

              The point is Jody that the entire system is corrupt! So what if the President discloses his doners...I am more interested in seeing the congressional and White house meeting logs....

              • 8 votes
              #5.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:34 PM EDT

              And yet he, along with Summers, Geinter and Daley are 100% 1%-ers and team Obama all the way.

              I'm with Torpedo - show me the logs.

              Oh and Jody - it means he is guilty of bad judgement and hypocrisy. Class warfare from the King of Wall Street.

              Too Funny.

              • 8 votes
              #5.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:40 PM EDT
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              John Corzine was not only the CEO of Goldman-Sachs he was a senator for N.J. from 2001-2006. He was also the Gov of N.J. from2006-2010. As a N.J. resident i sure am glad he's no longer in office.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 2:36 PM EDT

              Torpedo,

              I am with you, lets see those logs. 

              • 8 votes
              Reply#7 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:01 PM EDT

              What they don't sayi n the story is that Paulsoni s the author of" designed to fail securities" that the directly and indirectly to a lot of the recession and losses by ordinary folks who were persuaded by Paulsonand his buddies that these were actually AAA rated securities..

              It's surisining that a smart outfit like MSNBC would miss something like this. I hope they do eventually get to a story about the relatioship of designed to fails ecurites and Mitt Romney because all those budlers in that room were involved in it.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#8 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

              Arlin,

              LOL......nice try deflecting onto Romney and away from the DIRTY DEMOCRATS, like Corzine.

              Corzine must have learned everything he knows from Obama about "spreading the wealth"......TO HIMSELF.

              • 11 votes
              #8.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:17 PM EDT
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              Why is it that all of the big money supporters for obama are getting investigated?

              • 6 votes
              Reply#9 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:14 PM EDT

              Can anyone say Dirty Chicago Politics finds Dirty Money ?!!

              • 13 votes
              #9.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:18 PM EDT

              Can anyone say Politics!! Its on all sides and everyone is involved not just one person or one Party. So rather than pointing fingers as if yours is clean lets just change the system and get money out of Politics.

              • 6 votes
              #9.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:42 PM EDT

              because they are all crooks. It doesn't matter Dem Or Rep. Why else would you spend millions & millions for a job that only pays 6 figures. They are all lining their pockets and their buddies too.

              • 2 votes
              #9.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT
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              can anybody say "campaign financing in the millions of dollars is the root of all corruption?"

              it is time to cut all campaigns down to free airtime on a Sunday night as the BBC provides, and limit funding to one publicly-supported postcard the week before elections.

              at present, we have the best government money can buy. and by any other measure, it (hoovers)

              • 6 votes
              Reply#10 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

              It is not possible to actually reform campaigning because it you can't define the activity closely enough to limit it, without stopping all similar activity. It's the same problem with limiting immoral behavior, which is another reason why this country is going down the tube. However, before that happens, we'll be in "the Second Great Depression" as the so-called "health reform act" goes into full swing and it all comes crashing down [unless it gets repealed].

              Personally, I recommend turning off the TV and greatly limiting your internet use. In fact, I gotta get out of here!

              Good luck.

              • 1 vote
              #10.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
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              wow....They are gonna investigate a 1 percenter. He better start spreading some money around. Usually money talks with politicians, judges ect....

              • 6 votes
              Reply#11 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:24 PM EDT

              Wow am I glad that Obama campaigned for him last election. If not, we would have to impeach the crook!

              • 6 votes
              Reply#12 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

              Birds of the same feather, flock together. Corzine would be a perfect fit for the Chicago Mob administration.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#13 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

              the Chicago mob with a N.J. mob member. N.J. is a very corrupt state too from all I read about it. I think worse than Louisiana.

              • 2 votes
              #13.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
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              This probably ends Corzine's chances to be the next treasury secretary.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#14 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:35 PM EDT

              Obama will invite Corzine to become the "money czar" and then Obama can boast that he created a job.

              Oh wait, he'll say he "saved or created" a job.

              • 9 votes
              #14.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:42 PM EDT

              No, it won't Bob.

              Look at who we've got now...Timmy "Tax Cheat" Geitner

              Got a better solution - get rid of the current tax code (and the loopholes for all that go along with it) and abolish the IRS.

              • 5 votes
              #14.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

              Tell me Castagna how you can justify calling someone a "tax cheat" who has been convicted of nothing and has paid all back taxes he owed without penalties applied? Explain how that works?

              http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jan/16/barack-obama/Geithner-tax-error/

              Don't let the FACTS get in your way. Just another attempt to smear this administration.

              Now this Corzine thing, maybe that's different. Could be the first real scandal to taint this administration because of his close ties. It also could be little more than a horrific accounting mess. But like it or not this has been one of the most scandal free administrations in a long time. Not even comparable to the Bush administration where someone was constantly in trouble.

              Of course you will blame the press but that is ridiculous. First of all they don't actually prosecute anyone. Secondly, there are plenty of right wing media outlets and if you take their numbers at face value they are hardly some piddling minority. But calling people guilty who have been convicted of nothing (and who haven't even been prosecuted or charged with a crime) is not the American way. Hopefully never will be.

              • 2 votes
              #14.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:13 PM EDT

              Hey, Vox...answer me this. Just because you get caught after the fact and have the opportunity to pay it back so it gets swept under the rug doesn't take away the intent - and Timmy's intent was to cheat on his taxes.

              Got any links to disprove that?

              Didn't think so.

              • 1 vote
              #14.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 9:28 PM EDT
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              Just more proof that you cant trust anyone from Chicago because all of the politicians from there are corrupt

              • 6 votes
              Reply#15 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

              Nice pic....is he lifting Obama's wallet with the hand you can't see?

              • 3 votes
              Reply#16 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

              Put Corzine in the same cell as Bernie Madoff.... they can play Monopoly together and wait for the Hope Dope and Joe Biteme to joint them after they get their walking papers in November of '12.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#17 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:39 PM EDT

              it can't come soon enough!

              • 6 votes
              #17.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:45 PM EDT

              Or play hide the sausage.

              • 4 votes
              #17.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT
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              so that's where all that "missing"money went...to fund/buy obama's election...hope they saved some for his retirement...also explains NJ's money problems........CROOKS

              • 7 votes
              Reply#18 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:39 PM EDT

              Whoa, there!

              I thought that it was just the evil Republicans and tea party members that were responsible for all the wrong-doing on Wall Street and taking millions from the poor, unfortunate 99%?

              Say it ain't so...a...a...a...gasp...Democrat is doing the same thing?!?!?

              I wonder if he paid his "fair share" on all that ugly, evil money?

              So much fun when this happens and I get to watch the progressives and Socialist sympathizers here on the vine run around in circles muttering to themselves.

              • 11 votes
              Reply#19 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

              RC, what are you so suprised about. No one is running around muttering to themselves except the Republicans, How can we use this to destroy them. Problem is the Republicans are just a corrupt if not more so. Besided I not sure but I don't think he has been found guilty of anything yet. So much for our justice system. If he is found guilty he will pay the price just like anyone else would. Not an issue. So you might want to examine yourself in the mirror and say is my house clean or have I ever done anything I could be accused of.

              • 5 votes
              #19.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:52 PM EDT

              I guess Obama will have to change his "speech". He can't really keep saying......"pay their fair share", "millionaires and billionaires", "corporate jets".

              Since Obama's friends are wealthy thieves, it wouldn't be right for him to demonize rich people in his speeches ( 806 of them) anymore.

              • 8 votes
              #19.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:53 PM EDT

              TTS -

              Have I made mistakes in my past, or stupid decisions? Yep. Sure have.

              Have any of those things included bilking others out of their financial property? Nope. Sure haven't.

              Is there corruption from those purported to be Republicans? Yep, sure is. There's corruption everywhere as you pointed out. The problem is, most of the Democrats and Socialist sympathizers running around here on the vine fail to criticize when it's one of their ilk that's perpetrating the corruption.

              • 7 votes
              #19.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:09 PM EDT

              I am for Obama but sure would be nice to see that one percenter Corzine in jail. He never would have been elected Sen or Gov if he didnt finance his own election. If the rich cant win it they buy it.

              Money talks too loud in this country.

              • 4 votes
              #19.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
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              Just another sleazy Obama crony. His sleazy wife was just in New Orleans, soliciting funds, no doubt on a junket paid for by us poor tax paying fools. If the Democratic party had been paying, the cost of the trip wouldn't have even been covered by the funds raised. Just another example of the scalawag president we're stuck with and his sleazy bimbo

              • 7 votes
              Reply#20 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:46 PM EDT

              I wonder if Michelle Obama stayed away from Paula Dean's this time. LOL

              Remember when Michelle was eating everything in sight, according to Paula?

              • 5 votes
              #20.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:56 PM EDT

              You can't help yourself from eating Paula's cooking. She's an ole time southern cook. you can look at it and gain weight.

              • 1 vote
              #20.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

              Nola....Like the repubs never do the same thing.

                #20.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:45 PM EDT

                Sickening to attack the First Lady. You have not a shred of class! Go ahead and say something about his daughters now.

                This page is just an example of the hatred the Right shows for others. And I thought you were nearly all Christians? Didn't get much out of that speed read of the Bible did you? And virtually none of you are addressing the issue at hand. Hardly a surprise.

                • 3 votes
                #20.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:19 PM EDT

                hey voxrationis,

                Why are you so upset?! It's called karma.

                That's what happens after a time when the liberals call the Repubs every name in the book.

                How quickly you forgot all the nasty names Bush was and still is called.

                  #20.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 6:26 PM EDT

                  So I guess you don't remember when Letterman had something to say about that baseball player having sex with Sarah Palin's pre-teen daughter? I noticed he is still on tv unlike some conservative commentators who have disappeared?

                  • 3 votes
                  #20.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 10:28 PM EDT
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                  It will be interesting to see how this effects politics here in N.J. Anyone think this will help Gov. Christie?

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#21 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:50 PM EDT

                  This news about Corzine is NOT news to Gov.Christie.

                  Christie got elected to "fix" the dirty crony politics Corzine left behind in NJ.

                  • 5 votes
                  #21.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT
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                  The difference betwen our President Obama and the the GOP canidates is he will address this upfront with the truth.

                  I expect we will have full disclosure concerning this donor and his relationship with him.

                  If it was the GOP field we wouldn't know who the donor was...they are very good at hiding it.

                  I wish I could remember the details of one pac that made a large Republican donation, filed it as required by law then disappeared....Anyone remember that?

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#22 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:04 PM EDT

                  hahahahahahaha!

                  • 3 votes
                  #22.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:09 PM EDT

                  Yeap. The guy did come forward though I believe :)

                    #22.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:12 PM EDT

                    I'm with you, Kevin...I'm sure there will be a very candid, honest and transparent disclosure coming the the White House at any moment.

                    Wait for it...wait for it...wait for it...

                    Nope. Still haven't heard anything...and not gonna hold my breath, either!

                    • 7 votes
                    #22.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:15 PM EDT

                    yeah I remember that he created a dummy company and donated the money. They finally got him, I don't know if they did anything to him. I haven't seen anything else on it.

                      #22.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:29 PM EDT

                      When has Barack addressed anything upfront with the truth? He is a habitual liar and is not mentally able to understand what truth means. He is about as transparent as mud.

                      • 1 vote
                      #22.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 8:19 PM EDT
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                      The only thing that will help Christie is a salad.

                      Corzine hasn't even been accused of anything yet and all you morons have him in jail. Republicans really don't know crap about anything at all. It is sad really. It used to be a party of well educated elites. Now its a party of uneducated rednecks.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#23 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

                      Doug,

                      Correction. The GOP is still the party of monied, selfish elites, but since they've concentrated the wealth in so few, they need the uneducated redneck vote to even approach having a majority. That's what you see on here.

                      • 3 votes
                      #23.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:16 PM EDT

                      How does it feel? You lefties have Cain convicted of sexual harrassment and no facts have come out to prove the allegation.

                      • 2 votes
                      #23.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:17 PM EDT

                      doug,

                      It doesn't have a thing to do with Republicans, Democrats or Independents; it has to do with corruption within fund raising. Lately it's been the top fund raiser(s) for obama that are looking a tad bit shady.

                      What bothers me about people like this is they always claim to be innocent but are later proven to be guilty.

                      relayer1,

                      No facts to prove the allegation?!!! So what you're saying is that an innocent people shells out bucks for something he did not do?!!! Ya, right!

                      • 2 votes
                      #23.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:17 PM EDT

                      Actually yes ! Retired smoker, apparently you have no business experience. You can be wrongly accused by anybody and a company with a lot to lose will many times choose the cheaper more expedient way out. And that way out is to settle rather than spend 10 times more on lawyers and court fee's.

                      It's a business decision. Frustrating for the accused who wants to clear his name, but that's the way it works and there are people that know that and make the accusation, knowing they will get cash to go away and shut up.

                      Next !

                      • 1 vote
                      #23.4 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT

                      Well it would not stop liberals from jumping on.

                        #23.5 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 10:31 PM EDT

                        if he was innocent then the freethinker cain people would have loved for him to come out and said i didn't do it this is a hi tech lyching oh that was clarence thomas and ann coulter....but he lied and then lied again and lied again.....it's not what he did it's the fact that he lied about it...duh its a matter of trust....you conservatives never understand the point it's not if he did or didn't.....damn did nixon teach you nothing.....try and stand erect and walk oh you nonevoluted life forms..your like children

                          #23.6 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 10:49 PM EDT

                          just think if they convict all that are involved in the wall street meltdown at least the gop can say there not all republicans...ha ha ha.

                          • 1 vote
                          #23.7 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 10:54 PM EDT
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                          Just the tip of the proverbial ice-burg.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#24 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:08 PM EDT

                          Folks this isn't about political ideology its about the avarice of the 1% regardless of what party they belong too. Jail time for this man if found guilty.

                            #24.1 - Thu Nov 3, 2011 8:55 AM EDT
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                            The entire premise of this article has been completely ignored by the Right Wing nutballs. The President has no friends on Wallstreet because he at least tried to make them do right by the Country. Romney has no such problem. So who is the freaking crook in the Right's eyes. Obama. Logicians.

                            • 7 votes
                            Reply#25 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT

                            Guess you didn't bother reading the article and decided to smoke a blunt before commenting.

                            • 8 votes
                            #25.1 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

                            Duly reported as violation of code.

                            • 1 vote
                            #25.2 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT

                            Oooooooooooo! Scary! And I thought Halloween was over! lol

                            • 1 vote
                            #25.3 - Wed Nov 2, 2011 10:01 PM EDT
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