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Subscribe to RSSAs sexual harassment allegations continue to swirl around him, GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain keeps denying them. NBC's Lisa Myers has more.
Republican candidates, for the most part, have not waded into the controversy surrounding Herman Cain.
Perhaps the harshest voice was Rick Santorum, who said he has been more vetted than Cain and this is the risk with an untested candidate.
"I don't know all the facts,” Santorum said on FOX, per GOP 12, before adding, “What I can say is that there's something to be said for having a candidate in the race who's been in front of the national public eye, who's gotten scrutiny. I've run five races, three state-wide races in Pennsylvania, and been under the national spotlight and had to answer all the questions on all the issues, have had my background looked at."
Newt Gingrich dismissed it.
"I don't pay attention to the junk that you find fascinating,” he said. “I work on policy."
Others tried some version of “no comment.”
Rick Perry: “As a good rule of thumb, until things go past allegations to fact, I just try to leave them alone.”
Jon Huntsman: "Well, there are always distractions in politics. You gotta work to get your message through. You gotta work hard to make sure people understand what it is you stand for. And often times you’re going to have [the] drama of politics play out in an unpredictable fashion, and it’s hard to know where that then goes. It consumes days, maybe a whole week and that does take some of the bandwidth out of the atmosphere; there's no doubt about that."
Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad following a forum hosted by the National Association of Manufacturers, lining up with most in the talk-radio circuit, defended Cain.
"Iowans are pretty fair-minded people and just because someone makes an accusation, anybody that's in a high-profile position is potential to have people make these accusations,” he said. “And I think Iowans will carefully look at the real situation before jumping to conclusions. I want to just reserve judgment."
As GOP 12 points out: “Branstad was considerably more critical of Mitt Romney and Herman Cain for missing today's jobs forum in the state.”
By the way, Cain’s wife Gloria is in talks to be on FOX Friday night, the New York Times reports.
NBC's Alex Moe, Jamie Novogrod and Jo Ling Kent contributed to this report.
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Solyndra.
Oh Drive By, so behind the times.
We got us some Beacon Power. What a disaster, right?
Oh and Light squared, which is now dovetailing into Open Range, thanks to Obama's shenanigans for his donors at Light Squared.
Plus- don't forget EnerDel. A real doozy, that one.
All these loans to companies in such obvious financial straights.
Dude - Obama has single handily wrecked the solar panel and now hybrid battery industries.
But do tell us Drive By/Dominico- any of you all got any of the actual specifics or factual allegations re: Cain? Settlement amounts? ANything upon which to elicit a comment?
Golly gang, I settle for knowing what year these alleged incidents took place. We talking 1995 or earlier?
Anything?
Dominico - how about the latest Fast and Furious revelations? You try to get a comment out of Holder? Reid? Pelosi likes to talk about shutting down non union plants, I bet she'd offer you up a tidy sound bite on Beacon Power or Fast and Furious. What say you give it a try?
Wait, I know - how about you hit up Sebeluis for a comment on the fact that Social Security is now in the RED?
Nope, all republican primary, all the time.
They sure had a lot to say about that birh certificate before they had the facts, and a few ideas of their own on the birh of our president.
Spanky, you keep mistaking First Read for Fox Nation, or The Blaze...your seat over there is getting cold...
Someone said: "Hear the doors closing behind you...That's the sound of the Republican Party..leaving you in the desolated desert..."
You should have cleaned your dirty laundry before you signed to clean the laundry of the rest of the country....Payback is a B***H
The latest in the Cain story....One of the women would like out of the agreement to talk and tell her side of story. To be continued......
Of course they are. They know better than to get too close to the fire.
Yeah, that's real germane to this discussion...
Wow, Mrs. Pizza Man is in talks to be on Faux on Friday!
Is that must see TV or what?
chilled, that would be the very definition of must-see TV.
Cain, D-9 D-9 D-9 lies & flip flopping, he said I was just Joking. Pizza dough for silence is not cool. I say hes guilty by insanity. This guy is tripping all over his lies.
I'm less interested in this past sex stuff than I am in the ability of a person to run the government.
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Good attitude UnitedStates1776. Now how interested are you in not the act raised but the cover up? The lies? Half truths? How well do you really think he could run the government?
Barack Hussein Obama has been in office for almost three years, yet this very same press that is all over the Cain ‘story’ cannot find:
Any of his childhood friends or neighbors; or find any of Obama's Punahou high school or Occidental/Columbia college classmates; Or find any previous girlfriends prior to Michelle; Or locate any of his college photos, papers or grades; Or determine whether he attended Occidental or Columbia as an American citizen or Indonesian, British or Kenyan exchange student (all of which he could have claimed);
Or determine how he paid for an Occidental, Columbia & Harvard education; Or discover which country issued his visa to travel to Pakistan in the 1980's; Or even find Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis on racism.
They just can't seem to uncover any of this. Yet, the public still trusts that same media to give them the whole truth today. But they can do their best with Cain's situation!
Not to worry though, this same media cabal has already begun to thoroughly investigate and report every detail of the lives and careers of Cain and all other possible candidates who might challenge the president in the 2012 election.
Simply amazing, isn't it?
Considering Cain has been accused of nothing, why would anyone comment on it? Now, on the other hand, the appropriate question might be to ask why all those raising muchado about nothing about Cain support Clinton? Clinton's violations are proven and were ignored. Cain's are unproven and unsupported. Of course, maybe libs believe it is more of a violation of women to indicate how high a wife stands than to have your intern give you a blow job and to keep exposing and threatening and then tearing a woman's reputation to threads. I guess Clinton was right. It all depends on what the definition of is is. Which means, that when the lib press prints something, you have to figure out what they are really saying. And in this case, what they are really saying is that Cain is a conservative black person who is a threat to the Messiah who is in the process of bringing America to its knees, and we can't allow that to continue.
Bill Thomas and witchrunner, yes it seems the media is focused on Cain, a candidate, rather than the incumbent on solyndra and fast and furious.... two issues with a lot more meat that deserve our focus right now.... don't ya think?
witchhunter ... your point is? .. Clinton had an affair with a consenting adult and didnt pay off any one .. Cain tried to have an affair couldnt get the others consent and ended up paying off the victims .. why would you call the president the messia ... our country was brought to its knees by the policys of the last administration .. thank God Obama took over... Bill Thomas where is Cains Birth certificate or Santorums
Not so fast, the one woman who rec'd a $35,000 payout will speak soon, we will find out the whole truth by the BIG BAD liberal media, everyones liberal now, thery weren't liberal when Jesse Jackson's sex scandal broke.
Cain is done. Stick a fork in him.
As said before, the current leadership in the GOP should get together and select qualified, vetted candidates from the GOP governors, senators and legislators throughout the US. Obama has proven himself totally unqualified to serve as president of the US. Moreover, his direction is taking the US on a course to self destruction. In spite of this the media continues to cover and gloss over Obama's support. It is imperative, therefore, to present GOB candidates that cannot easily be torn apart by the media.
It may, also, be a good idea for the GOP to spearhead serious research into the reason the democrat controlled media is so controlled.
Cain isn't smart enough to get this over with. Instead, he is dragging it out and changing his story. By the time the real truth comes out (that he is guilty of sexual harassment, had his association pay out hush money, and has lied/is lying about it) he will be toast.
Bye, bye, pizza guy.
I think we're seeing a perfect illustration (witchrunner) of "just not getting it" to borrow a phrase from the Clarence Thomas fiasco. You have two women alleging sexual harrassment, one of whom was told to leave her job and paid a year's salary in exchange for her silence. That's what is NOT being disputed. And you really think this is over a casual remark about her height?? Yeah. I got a bridge to sell you. And for the ridiculously hapless Mr. Cain: at the very least, get your story straight.
Why should his GOP opponents comment on Cain's troubles when he's doing such a thorough job of sabotaging his own campaign? As far as they are concerned, nothing they do could be anywhere near as effective as what he is doing to himself.
Santorum was vetted, alright! By the 59% of Pennsylvanians who told him to take a long walk off of a short pier in 2006!!
Shame i was living in New York during that time. Would have loved to be part of that 59%
"I don't know all the facts,” Santorum said"
Now there's an understatement.
Hey, Bryan, don't feel bad - Santorum wasn't living in Pennsylvania most of that time, either......
I did my part to get rid of Santorum! He is Pa's gift to the Tea Party!
The TEA party had its time and place... for a moment.
Now, it's the 99%'s/OWS protesters time!
When Santorum finally comes out of the closet ..the GOP/TP will call him a rino and say it was the medias fault
They are probably all terrified that the voices on their radios (Limbaugh etc) and in the "real" news (Hannity etc) will attack them if they go after Cain.
I'd bet the origin of the story was Rick Perry. That's the kind of thing Perry is known for here in Texas.
But I understand their reticence to comment. Perry is probably terrified that Ann Coulter will bend Perry over her knee and spank him with her gigantic man-hands. Just the thought of Coulter's bobbing adams apple probably makes Perry wet himself. Coulter confuses poor Rick.
If she'd paint a nipple on that Adam's apple, I'd think she was pretty hot.
Ha Ha Ha ....not only am I first, I'm 'cute', too.
Ooooh, Spankie- Look at ME!
drive-by...
And Jr. took the bait!
Cinch, Mickey. Slam-dunk cinch.
GOP Candidates Comment "Off the Record" on Cain....LOL
Rick Santorum, who said he has been more vetted than Cain and this is the risk with an untested candidate. "All they could find about me is that when my son Gabriel was stillborn, my wife and I brought the dead body back home to introduce it to our other children and then slept with it in bed overnight. Nothing weird about that."
Newt Gingrich dismissed it saying, "Now you know why I married the sluts three times. A wife can't testify against her husband."
Rick Perry: “As a good rule of thumb, until things go past allegations to fact, I just try to leave them alone. But this ni&&erhead looks guilty.”
Jon Huntsman: "Well, there are always distractions in politics. Just don't get caught. That's my policy."
Michele Bachmann: "God told me something like this was going to happen to Herman."
Mitt Romney: "I'd like to reserve judgement, but Herman did and should pay for it, unless he didn't."
Ron Paul: "I'm quite sure it was the Federal Reserve and going off the gold standard that caused this. It'll all seem a lot better when I legalize heroin."
You ignorant slut--oh sorry thats your line
Actually, Kirk, that's Dan Akroyd's line to Jane Curtin. But feel free to use it when you have nothing more useful to contribute.
I lol'ed at Romney's quote.
MkeMike...I'm a Republican, and even I can appreciate your humorous post lol Good one!
Good job Mike!!!!
lmaooo.......MkeMike, this is really funny!
Herman is hiding behind his butt, don't blame me blame the lady's.
so funny but SO true
The media brings up something that alleged to have happen to Cain 15 years ago( pure non-sense; even if did happen, who cares!).
While just a few days ago, we saw Perry looking and talking as if he was as high as the good year bimp!
The Republican appears to have a bunch of misfits and pain killers!!!
President Obama is golden come 2012!!!
TRUTH - not CRAP
Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
One thing you have to keep in mind, Dem Soldier, is that the GOTPers want President Obama OUT in 2012. They will be out in full force come November to vote in whoever or whatever is their candidate. If we don't want a complete corporate and religous takeover of our country, we had better make sure we are out in bigger numbers. Do not judge the outcome of the upcoming election by the mentality of the GOTP candidate. It will be a fatal mistake.
The media brings up something that alleged to have happen to Cain 15 years ago
It was probably leaked to the media by either Karo Rove or Mitt Romney.
I think you might be correct. So far, there is no evidence linking this disclosure to the 'liberals', despite the teatards wanting to believe it.
Odd how they seem willing to ignore this. If these were allegations against President Obama, they would not be so kind! So partisan! "We only care about what we think is right if it concerns the other party!" Hypocrites!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
"Odd how they seem willing to ignore this."
The brain dead teatards are a predictable bunch. Whenever a sex story about a Republican like this comes out you always make to the same two points. First you blame the “liberal media” and talk about how the “liberal media’ is out to get conservatives. Then you bring up Bill and Monica like that’s some kind of a justification. But this is the deal teatards --- this story was very, very likely leaked to the media by a Republican --- probably Karl Rove or perhaps Romney. Neither Bachmann nor Perry are smart enough to pull it off so I doubt either one of them leaked it. And – brining up Bill and Monica reminds me of my grandkids with the idea that two wrong make a right. Bill and Monica trading favors in the White House is NOT AN EXCUSE for Herman Cain or anyone else to play grab-ass with anyone they feel like.
Now under the circus big top! The GOP/RNC Clowns are trying to make sense of "Crazy Cain." It is very difficult for these GOP Clowns to do, because they have no concept a rational thought. "Nutty Newt," and "Romulian Romney" were afraid they may fiip-flop on this issue as well. "Bitchy Bachmann" is so confused already. That she is hoping God will come down from the heavens to give here any answer at all. Is she politically still on her knees?? "Scary Perry" is so cognitively confused. That his is still "Stuttering" in the corner of his circus tent. Then there is "Sanitarium Santorum," who is living in the same wing of the hospital as "Nutty Newt." The man who loves to poltically puke!" That is fact! None of these GOP/RNC "Zombies" are talking about jobs at all. The President sure is! That is fact!
Wait and see what develops.......it seems as if it will burst wide open, but then again it might just fade away. If any women were paid settlements, then Mr. Cain has a problem indeed. You do not pay to liars unless they have some information on you - and then they are no longer liars either.
Actually Cain's problem in my opinion is the lying done in an effort to cover the whole thing up. He should have just come clean from the start. Haven't these clowns learned over time that you just can't hide this crap.
Evidently not. As Progressive says, they are a bunch of clowns. The only thing missing is the little tiny car they all pile out of. Maybe they should do that to start their next debate. And give out free popcorn.
"GOP candidates reticent to comment on Cain"; this is really curious. Either they lack the moral fiber, or they too have something dark hidden away in their closets. And please Ann C, this is not a racial issue as many on the right like you are saying; this is a matter of integrity and honesty, and lack thereof. I said the same thing when Pres. Clinton stepped way over the line, as did most Democrats and supporters on the left. The right is always yacking about integrity, ethics, morality, etc, etc. But when it comes to them, it suddenly becomes a moot point, or they point to someone on the left and say "see what they did". Fact is, 2 wrongs don't make a right - even when you're on the right and definitely wrong.
Newt was more than interested during the impeachment proceedings. What a turd.
and the whole time he was banging his mistress while his wife was battling cancer.
Itcommander72,
If I remember right President Clinton was impeached for perjury, not for any sexual misconduct. The sexual misconduct lead to him lying under oath, hence the perjury charge. Newt was the House leader and it is the house that initiates the impeachment proceedings. The Senate tries the case.
And remember -- Clinton was acquitted by a Republican controlled Senate.
Charlie,
Yes, Clinton was acquitted by a Republican controlled Senate, just proves that our system of government works and everyone is entitled to a fair and impartial trial.
sfcret --- no -- it just pooved that the charges were so frivolous even republicans couldn't live with them.
Refresh me on this....didn't Newt ask his wife for divorce while she was recuperating from cancer surgery?
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Herman Cain's accusers want to TALK!!!!
The other shoe is about to drop........Game over for LIAR sexual predator Cain
Tell Spankie we want a full report.
("But do tell us Drive By/Dominico- any of you all got any of the actual specifics or factual allegations re: Cain? Settlement amounts? ANything upon which to elicit a comment?")
Oh, and I have posted on here that I'm willing to wait to see what all is involved (or not), and also that I did not know if the 'leak' came from the left, or the right.
If I were them, I would give back the money, talk, and make a lot more money on the talk show circuits, and book deals. For some reason, it seems inherently unfair, that the victims are the only ones who have to be quiet. I think those deals should be illegal.
LOL ...They cant ..they sold that for ten grand ... shows you how bad their case was.
Good post, Laura. I was thinking along those same lines. I bet they will.
It seems to me that non-disclosure agreements are two-sided contracts, and that by cain basically coming out and declaring these two women liars, and implying they were simply paid off to get rid of the liars... cain himself broke those non-disclosure clauses..., which now means... the women are also free to talk to protect their own characters.
As it stands right now, cain is already way over-burnt toast...
Once these two ladies start talking, and surely it is coming -- cain might find himself sued doubly-over and still toast.
You are probably right. He has said that the offense was comparing his wife's height to one of them, which is such a weak ploy it is insulting to anybody with intelligence (meaning, not a teabagger).
I'd say since Cain has finally admitted there WAS two incidents and there WERE two payoffs, and now is claiming they are liars and frauds, they have a right to defend themselves.
They want to talk, but they can't because of the agreement they signed. I wouldn't be surprised if someone else comes forward, although it wouldn't be believed unless they had come forward years ago like the others. Seems to me, though, if there was no evidence and no truth to it, why would they need the confidentiality clause at all? It's just another case of believing what you want to believe. If you didn't like him in the first place, you will believe every word of this. If you did like him, you won't believe it without evidence (the fact that he is now admitting more each day isn't enough?).
As far as the sexual harassment charges go, I'm reserving my opinion of Cain's character until the facts are released. However, what Cain has portrayed in his policies and debates are pure stupidity in my eyes. Seriously, another candidate asks him to explain his 9-9-9 plan and he goes on a tangent about apples and oranges?
Math credits your points, not vague and obscure comparisons. If there's one thing I love watching however, it's when a Republican goes after another Republican about their policies/credentials. They're not pussies about it like Democrats and we get to see the real dirt behind the people who are supposed to "lead" us.
Exactly Alex. Not that sexual harassment charges aren't serious, it's Cain's multiple stories that makes the story. But, what isbeing ignored is his complete disconnect when it comes to any solid ideas about how to solve the myriad of problems facing us. He comes up with a tax plan he can't explain, he blames the poor, unemployed, uninsured for their problems, he states that Planned Parenthood is commiting genocide against black babies, he wants to invoke his religous beliefs into our personal lives, electrifying a border fence and the list goes on. His uncontrolled blathering is always causing him to back pedal. These are all reasons that he should not be our president or anywhere near where he has influence over our lives. The sexual harassment story is only a sideshow compared to his total incompetence.
All true, Moderate. I was waiting for the teatards to realize this guy is trying to raise taxes on the whole country, but I WAY overestimated their intelligence or underestimated the thickness of their skulls.
Anyway, Mr. Funny Pizza Man has finally ran out of jokes.
I expected the left to jump all over this, and I guess rightly so. However, I think everyone should wait until everything is made public. What were the sexual harassment charges, were they off colored jokes about women, putting hands on the women, asking for sexual favors, just what was the actual charges.
The 90s were a great decade for "sexual harassment" charges not only in private businesses but also in public jobs. The definition of what constitutes "sexual harassment" is very vague and was constantly being expanded. I seen several cases where females filed "sexual harassment" charges for things like: 1) playboy and hustler magazines in fire stations. 2) Off colored sexual jokes about dumb blonde's. 3) Not have private bathrooms or sleeping accommodations in fire houses (even after knowing in advance and accepting these conditions as part of their job descriptions). 4) Putting one's hand on a females shoulder when talking to them. It was always easier and cheaper to transfer the accuser or terminate their employment because of stress and give them a financial settlement. I would be willing to bet that 90% or more of "sexual harassment" complaints were settled without legal or court action.
simple explanation there sfret....
why didn't Cain just say that when he was first asked?
Same reason Clinton didnt ....except Cain wasnt playing in the wht house
b dune,
I agree, and he was ill advised not to come out with it. I still would like to know what the actual complaint of sexual harassment was, and I hope the Restaurant Association will now agree to release the complaint since the one woman wants to go public with the personnel action, but is barred unless released by the Restaurant Association. I, and a lot of others, didn't really care if he cheated on his wife, but lying under oath was another matter. Further going on TV and pointing his finger into the camera and telling the American people "I did not have sex with that women, Monica Lewinsky." Also he lied to his cabinet members and had them all attend a press conference where they said they "believed the President."
Remember Clinton was not impeached because of sexual harassment or adultery but for lying under oath (perjury).
"I think everyone should wait until everything is made public."
What's been made public so far is that Pizza Man has changed his story at least 4 times in 24 hours.
This guy Cain thinks money talks and Women walk, pizza dough for silence.
Exactly, Charlie. What we have here is someone clearly trying to hide/cover up, and that is not going to get one elected in this country.
The GOP circus just gets better and better! What a great time to be in comedy.
All you teatards, biethers, religious fanatics, flat earthers, mindless dittoheads, Fox noise cultist and all around anti American Republicans, get used to President Obama because he's not leaving office until January 2017. And if your Republicans filed a similar collection of worthless candidates such as Slick Rick Perry, Pizza Man Cain, Flip-flop Romney, washed up has been never was Newt and insane whacko Bachmann for 2016 like you have for 2012, a Democrat will win that time around too.
Don't forget Hair Boy Trump, Queen Lipstick, and Chubby Christie.
You libs should be happy hes just like your favorite two presidents Clinton and the Kennedys. Thats what Cain should say hes just trying to be like CLINTON....... LOL
"You libs should be happy hes just like your favorite two presidents Clinton and the Kennedys."
You brain dead teatards are a predictable bunch. Whenever a sex story about a Republican like this comes out you always make to the same two points. First you blame the “liberal media” and talk about how the “liberal media’ is out to get conservatives. Then you bring up Bill and Monica like that’s some kind of a justification. But this is the deal teatards --- this story was very, very likely leaked to the media by a Republican --- probably Karl Rove or perhaps Romney. Neither Bachmann nor Perry are smart enough to pull it off so I doubt either one of them leaked it. And – brining up Bill and Monica reminds me of my grandkids with the idea that two wrong make a right. Bill and Monica trading favors in the White House is NOT AN EXCUSE for Herman Cain or anyone else to play grab-ass with anyone they feel like.
you know Bachmann may have been the one to leek this she has motive
1. she thinks everyone stole her flat-tax idea
2. she has no clue what a flat-tax is
3. she is dumb enough to think she is smarter than the other gop/tea candidates
3. she is dumb enough to think she is smarter than the other gop/tea candidates
She might very well be, but it is like being the tallest of the Seven Dwarfs.
The '80s were worse, but the '90s was still a "great" decade for sexual harassment, which led to it being a "great" decade for sexual harassment charges. Yes, there were frivolous charges, but many, many totally deserved. As a woman, I lived through it. Along with lesser insults, I've been groped in the workplace and nearly raped in the workplace. Yet reading through this thread I see lots of people saying how unimportant this issue is.
A word to the wise -- most women have already or will eventually be faced with sexual harassment or discrimination in the workplace. Women vote.
You go girl! Went through the same thing. Men have a tendancy to forget that we have the right to vote.
These are not allegations it happened
the Women were paid off.
If Cain wants to show what really happened then release the paper work, show what they were paid off for he can do that.
The women had to sign nondisclosure forms, but not Cain so if he wants to show us then release the settlement agreement
These are not allegations it happened
the Women were paid off.
If Cain wants to show what really happened then release the paper work, show what they were paid off for he can do that.
The women had to sign nondisclosure forms, but not Cain so if he wants to show us then release the settlement agreement
What a ****ing hypocrite. When YOU were Speaker of the House that's the very thing you championed. What a lying ****.
No Duh the GOP hasn't wanted to comment on the "Cain" controversy because the Republicans probably started it! They don't want a black man as President now, they certainly don't want one in their own party!
They just invited Cain and Bauchman to the party to appear like a party that accepts all,truth is,they would rather see Cain swinging from a rope and Bauchman Pregnant and at home!
AAWWWWW!!!! ARE YOU WORRIED, DEMONRATS??
7 out of 10 headlines on MSNBC are about Cain..... SERIOUSLY??? THAT DESPERATE, HUH?????
BUNCH OF DIRTY RACISTS!!!
:P
"Go back to bed" Your ghostly tales are getting boring, why don't you take them over to fox.
OMG I am a racist?? good god I hope My black wife never finds out
first cartoons are out...
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