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Subscribe to RSSWASHINGTON and SIOUX CITY, Iowa -- Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum blamed a suicide bombing that killed 12 Americans yesterday in Afghanistan, in part, on President Obama.
"I think this is part of the consequences" of giving a timeline for when U.S. troops will leave Afghanistan, Santorum said yesterday at a fundraising dinner for Congressman Steve King (R-IA).
“[T]his is a dangerous enemy that has something that no enemy of the United States should have,” Santorum said, “And it was given to them by President Obama. And that is hope. They were given hope because the President of the United States said that he’s putting a timeline as to when American troops were going to leave. Once he’s done that, once he did that, he gave the enemy the hope that if they simply survive until then and maintain some level of activity that America will leave, and I think the best thing we can do for our troops is give them the best possible chance for success. And this President has not--, and I think this is part of the consequences.”
The suicide car bombing was “the single deadliest assault on Americans in the capital since the war began,” the New York Times writes.
Despite the death of Osama bin Laden, Anwar al-Awlaki, and the ouster of Moammar Khaddafy, Santorum derided President Obama as a “weak horse” on foreign affairs.
“America’s foreign policy, it is pathetic,” Santorum said. "And as a result, we are vulnerable. We haven’t seen it yet, but it’s only a matter of time before a weak America is going to be preyed upon, because they do not believe this president has the ability or the courage to stand up and fight for ourselves.”
Santorum said, if he were president, “[W]e would commit ourselves to success in Afghanistan.”
What would constitute success in Afghanistan and when would U.S. soldiers leave under a President Santorum?
“Success would be very clearly defined as the Taliban being, the threat of the Taliban would be diminished to the point it would not be significant to the security of the country of Afghanistan,” the former Pennsylvania senator said, adding, “[T]he issue is whether we will have, whatever government left behind, would be stable and secure enough to survive whatever threat. No one can suggest you can eliminate a threat, but you can reduce it to where it is not significant and once we have that accomplished, then we pull back and transition out of the country.”
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Is Santorum still running? Odd, I guess he hasn't noticed that no one cares what he thinks.
Republicans are funny.
Funny they may be but not in a humorous way.
There are a disturbing number as people who self-identify as Republicans who are totally devoid of the ability to think critically and with basic logic. Or perhaps they just can't think.
Each time they open their mouths vis a vis foreign policy, they reveal how ignorant they are of history, terrorism, military strategy, the essence of other nations, and just plain human nature.
Republicans are beyond funny ... they are scary contra American bunch!!!!!
jkatze "There are a disturbing number as people who self-identify as Republicans who are totally devoid of the ability to think critically and with basic logic. Or perhaps they just can't think."
The same could be said about Obama.
Santorum is right that Obama should not have announced the date when we would leave. It allows the enemy to merely wait us out. Can you imagine what would have happened in WW2 if Roosevelt had said "We're pulling out of the fight against Germany and Japan by December 31, 1944 and bringing our troops home for Christmas".
Santorum's plan is correct - Continue to fight until the Afghans are capable of defending themselves, and then pull out. Announcing a pullout before the field commanders say he should was arrogant and short sighted and "devoid of the ability to think critically and with basic logic".
Exactly!
Mr. Santorum is a very intelligent and courageous man, and he is correct about Obama's terrible foreign policy errors. There is agreement with many of his opinions throughout much of Congress.
And what do you want him to do? Hey guys, wake up, we are leaving in the morning, ok.
@Bonnie-1314398
Absolutely,. Can you imagine, he actually greenlighted the killing of Bin Ladin?
Woman/man, are you sure you are in the right place? Do you think you could spend a little more time in developing critical thinking skills before show casing a distinct lack thereof?
Just face it the repugs & baggers are just jealous that Obama has an excellent record on foreign policy, Obama is at least trying to get back the respect that the Republicans destroyed and they can do is criticize.
Google Santorum. Enough said, he is an animal.
Why would we give any credence to what that cretin has to say?
ROY WILSON different time different war...
Really Bonnie? And who in Congress agrees with Mr. Santorum's "courageous" claim that this bombing was the fault of President Obama?
Cant help but question the IQ of the average Teapublican...
They talk, reason and act like idiots!
Obama caused what?...even my dog Skip's shakin his head going "woof" as in wtf...
I don't even understand Santorum's premise. If telling the Afghans when we're leaving is supposed to result in them waiting until we leave, then why would they be bombing us today?
Could care less what Santiboy says. He is a loser.
After ten years it is time for the Afghans to know that they are one day going to have to fight for themselves. Ten years of boot camp is enough.
Not for nothing, but following Santorum's rationale, if the Taliban wanted to get the US out of Afghanistan by some "timeline" why screw it up with car bombings now. If I was the Taliban I would do every devious thing in my power to get all the US troops out of my country as fast as possible so I could regin havoc once they left, similar to what was done after the Ruskies left. Unfortunately Rick Santorum doesn't have a clue as to what foreign policy is about or perhaps he'd still be serving in the US Senate.
Roy Wilson - You are forgetting that WWII was a declared war against actual states. At the conclusion of the war, the parties involved met at an undisclosed location and a cease fire agreement and surrender was signed by the losing party. In the conflict in Afghanistan there was never a deceleration of war, we are not fighting a state, but rather a criminal terrorist network that is spread throughout the world. There will never be a cease fire! Withdrawing ground troops from Afghanistan doesn't mean we still won't have "special forces" like Navy Seals or CIA operatives still moving about the country. It doesn't mean we still won't use predator drones to take out targets either. President Obama has tactically changed how we fight terrorism. No longer will we send thousands of ground troops into a particular area in an effort to flush a terror cell. It's too costly both in terms of blood and treasure. Instead we will surgically remove the cell with small special forces, drones and good old CIA intelligence! This is less costly both in terms of blood and treasure with superior results to boot!
Roy and Others,
What IS dangerous is the constant illogical second-guessing that comes from the "unconditionally against anything Obama" right.
Roy, you said:
So help me out here. So announcing our plan to pull out so that the "enemy" doesn't kill our troops unnecessarily and "waits us out" caused them to trigger this suicide bomber? If your "theory" is correct, wouldn't the hold back and not waste their time and just "wait us out".
Maybe the reason we can't win in Afghanistan is because the Taliban have no logic that they follow... kinda like some others we know and love.
So how 'bout it? Isn't Santorum's logic severely flawed?
You betcha.
Santorum's comments make no sense any way you look at them. Our soldiers are being bombed because millitants want us to leave, so Santorum believes that the way to get them to stop bombing us is to tell them that we're not leaving? Huh?
Get the h... out of Afghanistan! 10+ years is enough and all they do is grow poppies for cocaine. No more military deaths there, and bring them home now. Put enough tropps on the U.S. borders and coastal patrol so that not ONE illegal can get into the U.S. across borders! Then we have jobs for Americans, no more freebees for illegals, and any infractrions of the law, send them home..the whole family! Why should U.S. taxpayers be paying their way for medical and schooling, etc.? Try doing what they do here in Mexico, and you will be in a stinkingprison for life!
Any one who only thinks of themselves as a pure Republican or pure Democrat are devoid of thought. Just read the comments, you tow the party line and just repeat whatever your leadership states. Pure lemmings.
Every move our military has made in the Middle East, Obama has broadcasted before hand. Why is this any different now? We have been fighting with one hand tied behind our backs (military) since the begining and I'm all for leaving. I just don't think it is very wise for us to broadcast the details.
Laura Calling obama Mr. or Sir Is like putting an elevator in an OUT HOUSE..
Of course it is Rick. We should just stay there forever. So that way they cannot kill anymore Americans. Perfect logic for a perfect Republican.
smh
Any idiot that blames one man ( our President ) for that bombing that killed 12 Americans, needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Know what you are saying and THINK before you open your mouth. The fault is with the people who brain wash the weak in their country and the weak person, that carrries out these horrific deeds, thinking they are heros.
Ah, the good ole 'blame game' and what else to project on a weekend? Enough, Santorum, as it's already too late for that.
mr. sani-tarium doesn't realize that the agreement to get out at this time was implemented by his father figure, GW "and" the iraq's haven't begged us to stay as well.
so what the hell?! lets get the phuck out of that forsaken shi*-hole and bring our sons, daughters, fathers and mothers back home as soon as possible.
Judy....I think you overlooked where Santorim said he blames Obama "IN PART"...that does not translate to ONE man.
edd .. calling president Obama ..PRESIDENT OBAMA ..is the right way .. Mr and Sir are Acceptable .. anything else is a sign of ignorance and disrespectful to the country we live in.. if hes not your president .. go to another country and live .. America doesnt need idiots
Aggie I think you missed the part where santorum is a moron, A horrible human being, and has no clue about anything. He is only running in hopes that by putting his name out there he can get elected to congress again but that will never happen!
As one can see from Santorum's remark and Bonnie's defense, trying to discuss things rationally or factually with republicans is a waste of time. They are an anti-fact, anti-reason, anti-science, anti-education, anti-American organization: a completely faith based cult. They are like animals in pain, biting and chewing at the spot that hurts and only making the injury worse.
First of all Santorim is a nobody who cares what he brings up,that said I stongly feel that if Obama will make a good move he should bring all our troops back ASAP. 10 long years in that conflict and nothing to look forward too,it's time to leave and fast.
Bonnie-- who was it that had such a lousy foreign policy that he got us into two stupid f***ing conflicts, couldn't find the people who needed killing (guess they needed kissing from Shrub) and was the one who first negotiated the 31 December date. And just because the date is 31 December doesn't mean that our guys will ALL depart on that date. No, a gradual drawdown is the norm. Guess you THINK you know military actions.
And to EDD-- calling YOU a human is stretching things a whole lot. PRESIDENT Obama is a MR. or a SIR-- and your statement shows how ignorant and uncouth YOU are. Not even good enough to be called Mr. or Sir.
We voted Santorum out of his PA senate seat. Now you know why. He made no sense as a senator, and he makes even less as a "presidential hopeful."
By publicly faulting our Commander-In-Chief, Santorum may have given the Taliban more excuses to do what they do.
Has anyone checked to see if Obama had anything to do with the Lindbergh kidnapping? I am sure he is hiding the Hoffa body. He is the first President in American history to officially have Cootie"s. The GOP has become the best reality show in town. Everything that happens, if it is good , and Obama had something to do with it, it is now bad. If it is bad, and he had nothing to do with it , it is all his fault. I mean really just nominate Mo, Larry, and Curly , and get it over with !!
Scott-2641766 -- NO. There is always truth and untruth, there is always a lesser of two evils, and two wrongs don't make a right. The fallacious argumentation that both Teapublicans and Dems are wrong does not make the case that Teapublicans like Santorum are right. One thing that is correct is you are a lemming.
Santorum is an idiot and with his hilarious reputation has no right to be insulting anyone. But, since he is.................
What he is really saying is the enemies of democracy in Iraq do not like President Obama.
Now, that's a good thing for the USA and more of us need to vote for President Obama.
Let's face it: the "enemy" is well-organized and knows what conclusions idiots like Santorum will draw from actions like these to try to hurt Obama's chances in 2012. Therefore, they are trying to get rid of Obama and hoping for a Republican outcome.
I'm not going to give them what they want.
Roy Wilson once again is wrong, and spitting out cheers for the uninformed rednecks to rally behind the Republican cause that "no war is a bad war"
Roy, you are losing your base. And, that is a good thing.
Steve King is another nutjob who says stupid things like that.
There was a baby shaken to death in Iowa when he was still an Iowa senator. Vilsack was the governor, so naturally, according to SK, "The blood of that little girl is on Tom Vilsack's hands."
I guess a crazy suicide bomber in a region that hasn't seen peace in two thousand years doesn't have anything to do with it, just like a terrible parent didn't have anything to do with the shaken baby.
You may not like the man. You may not agree with anything he does or has done. You could even despise the clothes he wears. But he is still the President of the United States and should at least be given the respect of a 'Sir' or 'Mr'. To refuse that simple courtesy shows just how petty and childish some people are. Grow up please.
Why would Afghans want to defend themselves? If they play dumb, Americans will do it for them for a 100 years as long as theirs a GOP Sherriff is in town
If I was the Taliban, and I heard that my enemy was going to
leave my country in a year, I would want to make sure that that decision was sealed
in blood. I would not want USA to have a good reason to stay, like we are
winning because, now the American people are helping the Taliban by also
wanting us to leave too. It is a tactless error to announce publically to the
world your military strategy but, Obama is really not experienced at being the
commander in chief of the USA armed forces, and has been over his head his
whole presidency. I think Obama even knows it but, feels he has learned so much
during his first term (that must have been humbling) that he wants to get a
second chance now, and gamble that he has learned something but, he still has
not learned enough for me to feel any better. What would amount for a good
leader of our nation is in sorry supply; every choice we have for President is
a knee jerk politician, and lacks any real life experience for the cursory
ideology that they spew, and that goes for Obama too.
With Billion$ being pumped into their Cave Economy, Afghanistan would love to continue to see us fooled into continuing fighting ghosts.
We are leaving Iraq in shambles from our Shock and Awe, none too soon. But they will continue to receive US Funding and Assistance.
Afghanistan never had much of an infrastructure to destroy. Neither does its part in 9-11 give reason for our still being there while not attacking the Countries from which the Terrorists/Hijackers originated. Very Double Standard.
There must be more than meets the eye...
Eisenhower's Farewell Address to the Nation
Peace, except not to empower the Fascists/Imperialists Ideals
D Callahan
and all they do is grow poppies for cocaine
You Coca for cocaine and poppies for heroin. When you make accusations they should be accurate.LOL
Did Obama "broadcast before hand" the raid that got Bin Ladin? Nope.
Did Obama "broadcast before hand" the drone strike that took out Al awlaki? No.
Did Obama "broadcast before hand" ANY of the actions that took out terrorists? No way, not a one.
So much for "Every move our military made Obama has broadcast before hand".
Don't you Teapublicans ever get tired of parroting Newscorp lies? Apparently not.
Santorum knows he will never be POTUS. Bashing Obama is all he has left.
LMarcT "If your "theory" is correct, wouldn't the hold back and not waste their time and just "wait us out"."
Our enemies learned a lot about us in the Vietnam War, such as "Once the Americans signal they are giving up, keep the pressure up to speed up the process and don't allow them time to change their mind".
The currently policies of the Taliban make perfect sense, from their perspective.
Cautiously Optimistic One "Roy, you are losing your base. And, that is a good thing."
Since I'm not a politician, I don't have or need a 'base'.
I'm just a humble individual expressing my humble opinions. People are free to pay attention or not.
Why anyone pays attention to Santorum is beyond me. He not only doesn't know what he's talking about, but he whines. Who needs a whiner? Children whine...thinking adults don't.
Hmmmm, someone please explain why we went to war in Afghanistan? Who was our enemy?
If I remember correctly, we were after the "Dead Guy, Bin Laden, right? The Taliban were the ones in charge of that country at the time. We put in place the current CORRUPT government, the one who just keeps taking our money as we keep sinking deeper into debt from this war and the other one that was started on lies.
So we leave, and the new corrupt gov't is forced to finally do their job, instead of sitting back laughing at us as they get richer by the minute.
How is this bad?
Look, one of Obama's campaign promises was to get us out of these wars. We are leaving Iraq with the terms Bush negotiated (and of course it's somehow Obama's fault), and he is trying to keep the other promise (one I think many voted for, hmmmm, the majority of Americans? Ya think?), and the war mongers want to complain?
Enough is enough, neither war has actually accomplished much at all, our "drones" seem to be doing a much better job than risking and losing thousands of our young American lives. The only thing it doesn't do better, is waste money and blood. Oh yeah, get the "war machine" richer too.
Ask anyone in southwestern Pennsylvania what they think of the idiot Santorum. It'll be hard to understand their answer due to the uncontrollable laughing caused by anyone thinking that horse's behind could be president. Just another tbag who says one thing but does another when they think no one is looking. He even lied about where his children were attending school for goodness sakes! Then there was the spectacle of his little darlings crying like someone had died when he lost his bid for re-election. A sad little man with a sad little family. We are all better off if he is just ignored.
Yes, we wanted Bin Laden. Taliban refuse to give him up. We went in to get him. As payment for their refusal to give him up, we took their country away from them. Too bad, so sad. Maybe the next idiot who copies the Taliban will listen.
anything that happens will now be the presidents fault, really you could do better.....everything these canadates say they will do is all bs and americans continue to be gullable.......as an independent im not happy with any.....two more yrs of this........
whynot? he gets credit for everything else, binladin, al-querki, gaddoffy? it works both ways.
Because the time line for withdrawl was set by LAW under G W Bush for Dec 31, 2011. This is not a failure of Obamas Administration.... it is a massive failure of the previous administration. Like everything else in the GW Admin, he pushed it off for the next Admin to shoulder. Of course if the GW Admin had used the intel reports they were given we would never have been there in the first place.
Doesn't seem to make any difference to some Republicans...bash Obama about continuing in Afghanistan or bash him for announcing America's withdrawal. Same argument we hear from them about Iraq.
But for those who decry his troop withdrawal announcement, consider this: Don't you think it's (at the very least) remotely possible that the Taliban would pick up on any US effort to covertly leave that country in any expeditious manner? It's not like we could just pack up and pull up stakes and leave that country in a matter of hours or even a few days.
So, all you nay-sayers, exactly HOW do we exit with an absolute minimum of casualties and loss? None of the high-profile Republican candidates seem to be able to offer anything in the way of concrete proposals, all they can do is criticize.
If it was up to them, it's doubtful we'd ever leave.
I wonder if he's google searched his name yet
Santorum's logic is as plain as the nose on his ass.
And the GOP Freak Show continues to entertain.
Despite the death of Osama bin Laden, Anwar al-Awlaki, and the ouster of Moammar Khaddafy, Santorum derided President Obama as a “weak horse” on foreign affairs.
Santorum said, if he were president, “[W]e would commit ourselves to success in Afghanistan.
------------Two things about this clown amazes me. First,he's still in the rethugli-con field and second, the people of PA actually voted for this idiot to represent them in the US Senate.
BTW Rick, george bush set the timeline for getting out of Iraq.Somehow I missed your comments on jr being a "weak horse" on foreign affairs.
Absolutely incredible how stupid the rethugli-con candidates are this election cycle.
What a douche bag thing for Santorum to say. So because Afghanistan can't get it's stuff together, we should stay there holding their hands FOREVER? Afghans have a time line in which they should be using to get their stuff together. Our money, resources, or patience is not infinite.
Santorum is a bitter and desperate candidate. He thinks he beats all other GOP naysayers to bad mouth the president, that it will help his cause. So pathetic! And what is even more irritating is these idiots thinks that all Americans are still gullible and brainwashed by FAUX news. He needs a reality check - bottom line regardless who is in the W.H. the problems in Afghanistan remains. Duh-bya never succeeded in fixing that problem for 8 years! Santorum should just give it up already. He'll never be the flavor of the month Repug candidate.
OMG! These Republicans have been screaming to Obama every since he was elected to make a timeline on getting our soldiers out of Afghanistan. So he finally did and now they are screaming why he did this? OMG I was always bi-partisan but these last few yrs since Palin I am less and less apt to vote for one. ASMOF I won't ever again. What a bunch of crazies!
I blame Obama too. He should have brought our troops home instead of sending more to be slaughtered. As long as he leaves them there, any bloodshed is on his hands.
Ron Paul 2012
No more wasted American money and lives.
Santorum is political speak for "irrelevant"
Moving on...he has become a side show bob littered with hypocrisy!
Santorum is the male version of Pelin. No experience, no knowledge about the true past or present of Afghanistan, no vision, only what he might hear on Fox or is being spoon-fed from the Koch Brothers.
We need to win the war. These "rules of engagement" need to go away. We are losing a war the same way we won our independence. Guerrilla tactics. Kick their asses and then come home. They have been fighting for eons and don't care who they fight. We couldn't win in Nam and we'll lose here. Politicians can't fight a war. Leave it to the Generals and the troops. That's what they are trained for.
Jay you are so right, with all these rules we would get our asses kicked by a bunch of girl scouts, what moron sends people to fight a war that one side has to abide by rules and the other sides fights by no rules, there is a saying all is fair in LOVE & WAR, live it ....
Yeehaw.
Rick Santorum:
Thesaurus: nincompoop, incompetent, unintelligent, inapt, incapable, lost, dim-witted, Neanderthal, obtuse, brainless, dense, laughable, ridiculous, injudicious, slow, dull, unwise, foolish, silly, irrational, mindless, senseless, boring, childish, tantrum-prone, meaningless, pointless, needless, worthless, futile, irrelevant, inconsequential, insignificant, rubbish, hollow, valueless, ineffectual, inadequate, pathetic, dismal, feeble, sad, wretched, pitiable, baloney, drivel, babble, hot air, gobbledygook, gibberish, twaddle, hogwash, hooey, bunkum, & COMPLETELY USELESS.
OOPS! I left one one more descriptor: DESPERATE!
@jay and Rick, this is a "War" that we have ZERO business fighting. You seriously have to know, that we as a FREE country, cannot allow the Military it's very own Executive Order, nor, can we allow the Government it's own Executive Order. Checks and Balances, but lately, the republican side of things thinks we need smaller gubernment and bigger mil'tary all across the big global thingy. Idiots! Santorum, Palin, Perry, who cares what these first class idiots think. They are nothing more than ridiculous talking heads who think that they look "Pretty". It is one thing to want to defeat your opponent, so that you can be the New President. But, what the dangerous, attack your very own country, teabaggers don't seem to be able to comprehend is that UNITED WE STAND! DIVIDED, WE FALL. The far right so wants to destroy the middle class working American, that they do not give a sh!t if the whole country falls into chaos, they just don't care. It just seems that if they can make enough money, who cares what the little guy thinks, even when it was the little guy that actually made it possible. If Ron Paul doesn't get the Rethuglican Nomination, then, it seems that most of us who do not believe in the far rights extremely biased rhetoric of bull-dung religious propaganda, will have no choice but to vote for The United States of America's President, Barack Obama. Oh yeah, for those of you that are going to hate me, and what I just typed, guess what? If, and I say if, because if you are an American Citizen, then, Barack Obama IS YOUR PRESIDENT!!!!! How does that rogue crap working out for you? Did I mention that the far right is made up of a bunch of IDIOTS! If that offends you, then, well, you are an IDIOT.
I like Googling "Santorum" Try it.
^ The Republican chances -fade to nothing- every time one of their freak show candidates opens their vile idiotic mouths.
The Republican candidates would find their chances of election would improve if they took a vow of silence.
LOL...so true!
Lol, well said.
To think they really want us to vote one of these morons into the WH. I thnk we should vote as many as possible out of Congress.
No, every time Obama opens HIS mouth.....HIS chances fade to nothing!
Wow, PHN, such a witty retort....***eyeroll***
PHN?? Incredible comeback... so very impressive. You should consider running for the GOP nomination yourself..
Frankly I am tired of the crud spewed from both sides. How about instead of bashing each other and blaming someone else for your fudge ups you take responsibility for it. Is it really that hard to figure out?
LOL---ahhh....the incredible hypocricy of the Liberals on here. For 8 straight years you guys blasted Bush for every little thing he did. You EVEN stooped low enough to attempt to RE-NAME the San Fran sewage treatment plant in GW's name!! And now poor Obama is being criticized....aww...poor baby. You liberals and your ideas have done more damage to this country than can even be calculated. Your ideas are wrong; they don't work, they'll never work--youre on the wrong side of every issue, every time, every year...because you're a bunch of closed minded, brain-washed morons with nothing better to do with your lives but bow down and pay homage at the alter of political correctness. You lefty's wouldn't give credit to an "R" if your life depended on it.
Rick Santorum:
Thesaurus: nincompoop, incompetent, unintelligent, inapt, incapable, lost, dim-witted, Neanderthal, obtuse, brainless, dense, laughable, ridiculous, injudicious, slow, dull, unwise, foolish, silly, irrational, mindless, senseless, boring, childish, tantrum-prone, meaningless, pointless, needless, worthless, futile, irrelevant, inconsequential, insignificant, rubbish, hollow, valueless, ineffectual, inadequate, pathetic, dismal, feeble, sad, wretched, pitiable, baloney, drivel, babble, hot air, gobbledygook, gibberish, twaddle, hogwash, hooey, bunkum, & COMPLETELY USELESS.
OOPS! I left one one more descriptor: DESPERATE!
I was thinking he could at least Google something a bit more impressive.
Yet another Republican candidate who wants to decrease taxes and spending and yet wants to commit us to being the international police force for 100 years (a la Sen. McCain). This is also another politician who has no other job than running for office, so he has no record to be tested on.... no executive decisions to be made, no policies to be analyzed. I hope that in the part of this speech that wasn't reported, that Sen. Santorum also expressed condolences to the families of those killed while representing the United States.
No job other than running for office? I have to agree. He should have been a bagman handing out twenties to the clowns standing behind Al or Jessie when they swing through Chicago on another extortion tour. That is the experience we need in another arrogant ass of a President.
Nothing to see here, just a bunch of hot air from a 5 time republican't, corporate teabagger, grand obstructionist party member, and a member of the infamous party of the no, the ultra looser named rick santorum.
next.
and yes that is my opinion
"tea bagger" "Republican't"....OOOOHHH...you Liberals are SOOOO smart and clever. What a cute bunch of name calling you came up with. You're sooo smart. Don't belive me? Just ask any liberal just how smart they are...they'll go on and on...they're ALL smart...and all "R's" are just soo dumb!!
"tea bagger" "Tea Bagging For Jesus!"
Self-Anointed by Early Tea Party WackNuts. I have avoided using it since I do agree calling names is childish. Just remember though, Your Side Of The Aisle has Plenty of experience pulling the very same crap.
Ignorance is no excuse. You know I am correct. You make a good half point, sir.
Peace
Hey genius, half a second on Google would inform you that the Tea Party teabagged themselves with the term. But her, don't let a pesky thing like facts get in the way of an attempt at wit.
MrkAnthny63 is well aware of this history. And we have taken his bait...
Fish much, Mark?
The time line is for IRAQ. This idiot doesn't have a clue. Are the Republicans starting to panic when they realize military spending will now be reduced cutting the flow of money to their big supporters?
What does this idiot attribute all the other bombing over the years to?
Whether he is a viable candidate, whether he is a Republican, are totally irrelevant to the truth of what he says. What matters is that he has correctly assessed another blunder by Obama.
The biggest blunder of any election is electing any republican....
Some posters here apparently feel that the one unforgivable, irredeemable sin is simply to be Republican. If their minds are so tightly closed against any Republican, why would a reasonable person give any credence at all to what they have to say about any GOP candidate? Their unshakeable bigotry renders them incapable of rational discussion.
Kannin -
Please apply your words to yourself. Just substitute the word Democrat for Republican.
The actual blunder was putting Afghanistan on the sidelines while conducting an illegal, preemptive war in Iraq. Obama got Osama, our job and reason for going in is complete. Would those on the right commit us to a never ending conflict? Sure sounds so from some of the inept comments they are making here.
@Kannin
The Republicans are walking in lockstep. They are not representing or even listening to We the People. They are walking in lockstep. America was not built on lockstep thinking. In fact, we fought that kind of thinking in WWII.
To expect anyone to respect a party that puts itself over country is not, in every sense of the word, American. The Republicon Party way or no way does not reflect what America is about.
The old Republican Party is dead; it was hijacked by the RepubliCons. Lockstep RepubliCons. I can find no reason to support or even respect that. You blame our system of government for what people have done. Our system is only as good as the people we elect and come 2012, We the People will elect a Congress that will repair and heal America rather than put us all in RepubliCon Lockstep.
The biggest blunder was going into Iraq after 9-11-01. We were attacked that day by 19 hijackers, 15 of which were from one country alone, Saudi Arabia. Not one from Iraq. Iraq was always a secular country in the middle east, not ruled by Islamic militants like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia. Plus taking out a Sunni dictator, (Saddam), in a mostly Shia country, (Iraq), will cause the Shia's who now run Iraq to hook up with their Shia brothers in Iran to form a greater Shia theocracy in the middle east. George W. did Iran the biggest favor ever by taking out Saddam. And you want to point out Obama's mistakes
Ray & Free have the right of it (pun intended).
There was NO reason to invade Iraq ... and many reasons not to.
First and foremost, it took away from the mission in Afghanistan. It was AFGHANISTAN that harbored the perpetrators of 9-11 and most of them were SAUDI. Nothing to do with Iraq.
Second, we lost a great deal of international support that we had after 9-11. (And yes, it DOES matter what the rest of the world thinks of us.)
Third, call it "preemptive" if you like, but it was an UNPROVOKED attack on a country that had not threatened the US. So Saddam was a bad guy. There are LOTS of bad guys in the world, do we plan on taking them all out (I hope not!).
And last, but most important, the human toll.
I don't totally blame the Republicans for this -- many Democrats voted for it too!
potrzebie - Dem, GoP it doesn't matter. In the complex calculus of presidential elections, the people who will only vote Dem or only vote GOP are "constants". Nothing the candidates say, or do, or have accomplished will make any difference whatsoever to those voters. Consequently, the election will be won and lost by affecting voters who analyze and choose rationally regardless of the candidate's political affiliation. And, as a consequence of that, the parties will fight desperately to learn what they think and what they want because they need their vote to win. Sad as this may seem for you, the polls you answer and the posts you make here identify the "constants" and are being used to filter their opinions out of their decision-making strategies. The opinions of people that are actually thinking about the issues, and are willing to change their votes, will shape both the choice of candidates and their parties' platforms.
The truth of the matter is that the "deadline blunder" Santorum and you ascribe to Obama was actually made by Bush Jr., as he originally set the idea of a withdrawal deadline.
But that's not surprising, there is a long list of things the Bush Jr. administration started that the Teapublicans blame Obama for: TARP, the GM/Chrysler bailout, the "Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufcturing" loans to Tesla and Fisker, and the electric vehicle tax credits.
So add just one more false accusation to the pile.
Whether he is a viable candidate, whether he is a Republican, are totally irrelevant to the truth of what he says.
^ Your comment, like Santorum's makes no sense, as there is no truth to anything this idiot says. And this is why he is not a viable candidate to begin with.
Do you even know what his position is on Afghanistan? I bet you don't.
Santorum wants to occupy the middle-east indefinitely, until the Middle East turns Christian or Jesus comes back!!! He is a nut and will get thousands more Americans killed.
Please explain how his position is not utterly inane?
“This is a dangerous enemy that has something that no enemy of the United States should have,” Santorum said, “And it was given to them by President Obama."
That is not inane at all. It is an obvious truth that Obama apparently missed.
“This is a dangerous enemy that has something that no enemy of the United States should have,” Santorum said,
^ re: That is not inane at all
^ The motivation for against American forces in Afghanistan is the -occupation- of the country.
Our motivation for entering Afghanistan was to *find Bin Laden*.
The Republicans failed to accomplish this, but President Obama succeeded.
That having been accomplished, it's time to leave.
Otherwise our troops have no _military— mission and just become targets for revenge attack, which -must- logically continue for however long they are there.
Can you not see this?
Idiot Santorum is really advocating and endless war with thousands more Americans dead, with no exit timetable and no exist strategy.
And you can't see how inane that is???
Our aims in Afghanistan should have been limited solely to killing or capturing Bin Laden. This should have been accomplished in 2003. Anybody who has studied world history would know that a protracted "nation building" (really a euphemism for 'occupation') would ultimately fail.
If Bush had remained focused on a single goal, and not decided to engage in a harebrained scheme to occupy much of the Middle East by setting up puppet governments, history would certainly view him as a good (and possibly great) President. Instead, Bush decided that he had to act out his daddy issues at the expense of the entire world, and his reputation will forever be stained by Abu Graihb, Guantanamo, and the other excesses that inevitably occur in wars of occupation.
"Obama succeeded" in getting Bin Laden, etc.? Isn't it more accurate to say that the many members of the several departments of the United States Government who were largely there before and will be there after either Bush or Obama are the ones who succeeded? I would hope that Obama has the good sense to leave operational decisions, the decisions that finally ferreted out Bin Laden, to the professionals and experts. Shouldn't he largely limit his involvement to policy decisions?
Come on, lets get real. Don't you think that a large part of the candidates' obscenely ridiculous posturing is in response to such silly expections and voter insistence on immediate gratification of unrealistic desires? A whore is a whore because she indulges the fantasies of her customers. Politicians are no different. If we want to cut down on the prostitution we'll have to cut down on our fantasies. We are mortal, the world is complex. Humility sufficient to motivate sober research and deep reflection is in order. It'll work better than sound bites - don't you expect?
And of course to fund both the troops and the "nation building" with oil monies... To set the withdrawl date required by law for the next administration. TP/GOP supporters are too ignorant to actually reasearch the subject, they simply parrot their talking heads from the pulpits or faux news. They are all as bat sh1t crazy as Bachman.
Wordweevil, I can't agree with your first few comments. I happen to work for a government contractor and I know for a fact that the "many members of the several departments of the US Government who were there before and will be there after either the Bush or the Obama administration" require leadership from the top to do much of anything.
I have seen agencies staffed by political appointees/incompetents become completely paralyzed because of this failure of leadership at the top (for example, FEMA, Michael Brown and the Katrina/Rita debacle). The inability of the SEC and the FDA to function effectively are additional examples. And even when the leadership is competent, staff become paralyzed by fear for their jobs and won't act without direction because they don't want to lose their jobs.
Who is president makes an enormous difference in the ability of government agencies to act, even when they are staffed by lifetime, career middle management and staff. the idea that these people keep their jobs no matter what is simply not correct. Cheney kept an iron grip on what went on at the agency level and had zero tolerance for anyone who did not toe the Bush administration line.
Second, the go/no go decision for capturing and/or killing bin Laden was in both administrations the President's. Because Bush decided that it would be politically safer if the Afghans took care of bin Laden, US troops were kept from acting in a timely fashion at Tora Bora. Where Bush was not willing to take the political risk, President Obama was willing. It was President Obama's decision to keep Pakistan's government out of the loop so that bin Laden would not be warned, and it was President Obama's decision to send in the Navy SEALS who killed bin Laden, no one else's.
Had the mission failed, like the mission to rescue the American hostages in Iran failed in under the Carter administration in 1980, President Obama's political career would have been over.
...Something so obviously simple, that a caveman could do it? Yet, a War President couldn't get it done? Burned through enough money to bankrupt a Nation and couldn't get done?
Riddle me this, Batman - why are so many of the important things that needed to get done, which some claim were meticulously, planned, implemented, engineered, envisioned... yet never "quite" completed in his 2 terms? Yet have been brought to fruition by contrastingly "inferior" efforts of the following administration, work under, around, over the objections of an intransigent, overtly hostile congressional cabal? In this entire 1st term - with very little animus, it could be argued that the best Ally of the terrorists has been our, own petulant, sluggard coven of congressional whiners.
AThoughtOr2..........well said.
MM-584706
You talked real good too.
Rick Santorum:
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OOPS! I left one one more descriptor: DESPERATE!
I never get tired seeing this guy make a fool of himself !...He doesn't get it.... NO ONE wants him or his religious cult beliefs ...the republicans are exactly ... whats wrong with America ! They have created.. everyone to lose their retirements and life savings with all this foolishness ! Why do you think America is rebelling in all major cities !
I urge people to watch "Inside Job". If you could see what the Banks, Wall Street did to the GLOBAL ECONOMY it makes me sick, and for them not to be held accountable is just plain wrong. Also if Reagen never removed the regulations we would not be in this mess, we need BOTH to be regulated, it was done after the great depression, and worked for 40 plus yrs, until Reagen removed the regulations and we went down hill from their all in the name of GREED! Santorum, and the rest of the republicans & tea party don't have a clue about WAR nor the ECONOMY!
Laura, I don't think everything you stated is true. The teapublicans know all about war and the economy. If they can continue to keep us in a war their major supports and contributors can continue to make billions of dollars. If they can continue to keep the economy in the toilet they can continue to spout BS rhetoric that will continue to pit American against American and keep the economy in the toilet. Remember they are out for the people with the ethnic background of "Corporation" and will continue to be the party of "No" until our country is completely destroyed.
Does this nut then blame bush for the over 4,000 MURDERED U.S. troops in the Iraq war of choice based on lies?
Of course not, that's different.
In Sanatorum brain it is only murder if you are still in the mothers womb. He doesn't care about living humans, the rest of you can stay and die in Afghanistan or Iraq forever.
What does it take for a president to send American soldiers into a country to look for WMD's that he knows are not proven to be there? What does that say about the morality of the Republican Party?
President Obama has been busy cleaning up Bush's international messes - and very well at that! The only way RepubliCons can simply say "thank you" is to accuse him of not being American. What more does it take to expose the outright lies and ill-intentions for our country than quote what comes out of their cowardly little mouths. Santorum's comments are always vile; that must be why he always looks like he just ate a lemon when he utters his inane comments.
He also ignores that Bush set the "date certain" for the current pullout from Iraq.
marv-1900694
the fact of the Iraq pull out is yes Bush set a date to pull the troops out by the end of 2011, Obama wanted the troops to stay longer but only if the Iraqi government gave the protection against criminal charges. the Iraqis then told Obama NO way and to pull the troops out. Obama then made a big deal on TV about how he kept his campaign promise to bring the troops home. so anyway you look at it Obama lied. if Bu sh set the dead line by law as you say then Obama had no choice, if Iraq told him to take the troops out , again Obama had no choice.
And had John MCain, the republicans hopeful, become president, then we would have been changing strategies to include his campaign rhetoric of being in Iraq for the next 100 years or longer. The President had already drawn down the military in Iraq before the Iraqi's said there would be no exemptions for military criminals in Iraq. The Iraqi's were just in their decision. There should be no exemptions for military personnel that break laws whethr there or at any other place in the world.
We should have never been in Iraq and should have left after Saddam was captured and had him brought back to the US or sent to the Hague for whatever charges the Hague had pending on him before our invasion. To turn our illegal invasion into a democratic government and nation building goal should never have been allowed to transpire. Neither were a legitimate reason to take us into the country and neither should have been allowed by congress or the U.N. after Saddam and his weapons of mass destructions threat were removed.
Seriously folks, do we "have" to re-read the real history again. You guys can't keep making stuff up to suit your own plans.
clueless , deranged and non-responsive
McCain was the anointed torch bearer of the Bush doctrine. His campaign was founded on the proposition of continuing the "successes" of the Bush programs. The slogan was ..."Stay the course". The allusion was there was light at the end of the tunnel... what it was, we soon found out, the light was attached to the front of a roaring locomotive, The Red Ball Express ... a fast moving behemoth train wreck of biblical proportions on a collision course with the spendthrift economic policies enacted under administration built on lassie fare economic idiocy.
fortunetly, those successes peaked a little early - just a few months before the election the banking mess broke into the News. No matter how many band-aids the Bush administration attempt to put on it, they could not stop the bleeding.
Yes, the chickens came home roost - and everyone could see who was their owner.
Beoweolf
Seriously folks, do we "have" to re-read the real history again. You guys can't keep making stuff up to suit your own plans.
McCain defends '100 years in Iraq' statement
McCain defends '100 years in Iraq' statement
That's what happens when you party line vote without even listening to what your candidates are campaigning on. It's like arguing for many months on something like the healthcare bill and then voting and having the audacity to proclaim that noone knew what was in the bill because noone took the time to read it.
Lets get this straight, first the tea people GOP republicans said the time line would make the Taliban go in hiding and wait till we left, that didn't work so now the tea people GOP republicans are saying that the time line has brought the Taliban out of hiding to fight. Is there not a subject these tea people GOP republicans won't flip on in a moments notice, I've seen dumb in my life but these people take the cake, they've redefined dumb to the extreme.
Weak foreign policy - let's see, we got Bin Laden and several other key leaders. We got Qaddafi without starting another trillion dollar war .... ah, that's it. The Republicans consider it a failure if you haven't started a trillion war.
we got Qaddafi out? Lmao really how did we get Qaddafi out ? his own people who put their lives on the front lines and died got him out. the UN helped but no we did not get him out I guess you want to claim the whole Arab spring was all our doing .
We?? You keep saying we. Were you there? Are you in the service? No... just taking credit for something YOU had nothing in. Sounds JUST like a democrat to me.
Katie,
Keep in mind that Rick Perry claims that Texas' job creation record is all because of him, despite the fact that Texas' governors have the least executive power in the nation. You're truly kidding yourself if you think one party is more prone to taking undue credit than another. This "my party is infallible" thing is what's polarizing American politics, and it's why we can't get any reasonable centrists in office anymore.
Het TomTomThumb:
For some reason, for our foreign policy to have validity, do we need to invade a country with half a million troops? The fact is that as regards Libya, the US orchestrated the entire NATO operation (US generals commanded the operation), expanded it beyond protective force by pressuring Arab allies into supporting actual attacks to pro government troops, supplied intelligence and supplies that allowed the rebels to succeed, and diplomatic support that pushed other countries to recognize the rebels, at a fraction of the cost of an invasion (such as mccain wanted) and with no loss of American lives. Obviously subtlety and success seem to bother you.
Rick Santorum, Executive Vice President of the Small Penis Society of America, has said something that, once again, nobody cares about.
However, Rick is up for election now: as President of the HasBeen Club -- East Coast Division. Their club is set to do a car wash down at the Tire Store parking lot next Saturday. Hot Dogs are only 50-cents!
How crass you are to degrade people who wash cars for a living ... Have you no respect for hard working migrants ... How shallow of you ... LOL ...
Another Rupblican fool who should be in deep hiding with that fool Donald Frump.
Donald is a hairpeice with a mouthpeice.
The Republicans are going to get the shock of their lives when most of them are voted out of office in 2012. They just don't get the fact that people are fed up with their extreme views and accusations and obstructionism.
Spot on!
The 2012 Democratic Landslide will give them an unmistakable message! Welcome to the 21st Century - finally!
Many that were once Republican are no longer, like teachers, police men, firefighters, EMT's ect.. and a lot them say they will never vote Republican again, as for the Tea Party, well they are just a bunch of CRAZIES!
As a born again Independent, was a Reagan Democrat, then Back to Clinton, i am sick and tired of Fox News and MSNBC , its always the GOP turn to mess things up then the Dems,, we need a good 3rd candidate, both the ultra right Tea Party,, and the Wall street lefties make me sick, do not be a sheep and follow them think for yourselfs,,, go Independent and one day we will get them elected.
ernie-1402395, the only thing that a third party candidate accomplishes is to siphon the vote away from whoever is the sanest candidate in the two-party system. That is exactly how we got stuck with Bush back in 1999 - Ralph Nadar and the Green Party.
Neither party is ideal but at least they represent clear choices. Further, the efforts of the Democratic party have been marred by the persistent conservative influence of "blue dog" Democrats, and the ever-increasing political extremism fostered by Fox News and the far right media conglomerate. At least MSNBC does not routinely outright lie about the facts.
If you want change, vote for the most progressive Democrats on the ticket.
Laura-3089574
"Many that were once Republican are no longer, like teachers, police men, firefighters, EMT's ect.. and a lot them say they will never vote Republican again, as for the Tea Party, well they are just a bunch of CRAZIES!"
ARE YOU KIDDING? ROTFLMAO teachers, police men, firefighters, EMT's are union jobs and the Unions never back the Republicans. wow unreal
Actually, several police and firefighter unions used to support "law and order" Republicans - until it became too blatantly obvious that the Republicans would do anything to get more tax cuts for the rich, including cutting Government spending for policemen and firefighters. The Republican union busting efforts didn't spare any Government worker unions.
There is a simple reason why there is such animosity between Unions and Republicans. The Unions represent the working class, and Republicans represent the powerful corporate bosses that want to eliminate Unions.
Unions do not represent the working class! They line the pockets of the their bosses and the Dems! Well, that party is over thanks to the Republicans!
@PHN....just curious...on what knowledge exactly do you base your opinions about unions?
Pablum-Hacking NeoCon. Rhetoric, not truth, is his ammo.
PHN: many union workers used to vote republican I know because I worked with them back in the 70's many of them were WW2 vets & very hard working men in a dangerous & difficult job these men fought for & helped build this country & every time I hear someone badmouth them it makes me sick. Back then those republicans would look like liberals compared to the current crop who are scared to death of unions who only represent 11 to 15% of the work force, they hate them because they are the only organized force for the working man in this country. Republicans have almost unlimited funds from every corperation in the country,yet they want to muzzle the small voice the working man has left. Like I say 15% at most but they are terrified of them and will say any thing they can think of to make them look bad,what are they scared of....the truth?
the correllation between having a timeline and a suicide bombing is simply empirically false.....otherwise suicide bombings wouldn't have occurred until a timeline was established....Santorum is a joke....
No, the President has not made a mistake. The Republicans made the mistake of not going into Afghanistan to win 10 years ago, and instead marched off to Iraq with another agenda. This President is merely cleaning up after the chickenhawks.
LoL! It's amazing how everything is Obama's fault, except killing Bin Laden, Gadaffi, and al-Alwalki, honestly if Obama walked on water, the only they would say is "Obama can't swim!!"
Obama had nothing to do with Gadaffi, that was the UN , or are you going to say the we would not be in the UN if it was not for Obama? Obama didn't kill Bin Laden , no more then a Judge who sentences a man to death kills him , or orders the cops to pick him up in the 1st place.
peete31 if Obama burnt the Withe house to the ground you would say it needed to be done because a Republican once lived there.
Obama had nothing to do with Gadaffi, that was the UN
LOL!!! Try again teatard. It was NATO not the UN.
ok charlie-1915998
still had nothing to do with Obama did it ? so UN or Nato , Gadhafi was Killed By his own counrty men.
and since you miss the point all together I guess that makes you the retard now doesn't it.
Who do you think funds NATO the most?
Whose military comprises the largest part of NATO?
The US.
Obama made a commitment with other countries in NATO, to give the Libyan rebels and civilians protection from Gadhafis forces.
Most of the rebels would probably be dead or imprisoned, if it wasn't for NATO.
If Obama had refused to take action, Nato probably wouldn't have helped Libyans much.
The Obama Admin. played a part in helping the rebels overthrow Gadhafi, but keep spiining it however you want to.
Those with any logic or common sense, see thru the "Obama had nothing to do with overthrowing Gadhafi" rhetoric.
LOL... !!! 2 SNAPS. ... and a "Yes, lordy, Yes".
NATO does not take orders from the United States never has, your the one who is spinning it. those with any common sense didnt vote for Obama in the 1st place.
NATO asked the US for Drones or are you going to over look that as well?
The NATO operation was commanded by US Generals, Tom Tom Thumb
When your goal is to bankrupt America like all republicans. What a better plan that to stay in Afghanistan forever.
I find it interesting that we can stay in Afghanistan forever and spend, spend, spend, and kill, kill, kill but apparently there is no money for America.
Lets kill social security so we can stay forever and kill people in Afghanistan. For a party that likes to bill itself as the right to life party it sure is attached to killing humans in wars.
I was a precious important human once, that is until I was born. Now I am someone to be denied a job, health care and social security expecially if the rich republicans are asked to act like this is their country too.
Comments like this make me worry about who votes.
Republicans with no coherent argument would say the exact same thing about democrats. They want to spend America into Bankruptcy, kill social security by over promising benefits and stealing from the trust fund and continue their pro abortion policies by giving the Taliban a timeline to our withdrawal.
You may not agree with the means they want to use but neither party has the destruction of the country as their ultimate goal and blithering comments like this are ridiculous.
americansfirst3238795
Have you ever heard a a little thing called WWII ? who was the President then? oh that's right FDR, and what of Harry S. Truman ,ordered the dropping of the Atomic bombs on Japan, and the Korean War, or JFK and LBJ and Vietnam which party did they belong to? how many people died in those wars? how much money was made off of them?
If all else fails change the argument to world war II and then Vietnam? You are not even in the same ballpark as to what I was talking about. I was talking about apples and you are bringing up rubber trees.
I was talking about current events. Like how do we have the money to wage wars and rebuild other countries and have no money for our own people or country? How do you claim to be both pro death for wars and for a brief 9 month period you are pro life? Unfortunately this treasured blessed life ends as soon as you are born. Once born you are just another human to be denied health care and good education by our compassionate christian gun toting republican tea partiers.
Please enlighten me, just what has this got to do with what party was president during World War II other than changing the subject?
@: AM 1St Hooray and right on target!
@: gglen: And your comments are a total fail, so maybe you should be afraid of your vote. That aside, I find spending by Americans for America to be a lot honorable than spending by American Republican politician for some foreign country and telling the American People that we are too broke for you take care of youselves. So if you can't make it on your own, you can't eat, you have no home, you don't have medical care, you are on your own. The only thing the the teapublican folks will do is cheer your demise! Now, that's a scary thing!!
cherrytom::: What do YOU remember of WW2--actually remember, not read about it. President Roosevelt DID NOT start WW2. The opposition had already started it. Then the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and we really got into it. Where were YOU on 7 December 1941?
The Germans had already bombed England before 1941, the Japanese had invaded China-- then they bombed Pearl Harbor.
Since you think you are so smart, tell us about the dropping of the atom bombs and what effect that had on the war. You don't know? Then shut your mouth!
LOL! it's amazing how everything is Obama's fault, except killing Bin Laden, al-Alawki, and Gadaffi, Honestly if Obama walked on water the only thing republicans would say is "Obama can't swim"
Remember the Teapublican talking heads. Bin Laden was eliminated because of Bush. Gadaffi was eleminated by the French.
I remain optimistic that come the next election, this country will once again be on solid footing, we can again have normal, adult conversations regarding our various opinions without the torch carrying mob chasing anyone who doesn't agree with them. If we really get lucky, the blood thirsty Teapublicans will be rounded up and set adrift to some uninhabited island where they can chew on each other. The rest of us can band together and get this economy going again.
Until we get rid of the Teapublicans this country remains doomed
JBburns your right come the next election , this country will have a new President and we can get on a solid footing again. no more bailouts, no more stupid bragging about being able to push a Health care bill down every ones throat just to turn arond and say it cant be done. yep it will be nice to have more people back to work.
yep the only hope we have is to change presidents in 2012
"No more bailouts", cherrytom? Are you forgetting that both the TARP bailout and the GM/Chrysler bailouts were signed into law by Bush Jr. before he left office? Of course you are.
Bush left it to the next administration to carry out the laws he signed and to fix all the mistakes in those bailouts, but it's so much more fun to blame the innocent.
The Teabaggers are funny people. They complain about a deficit that was run up by Reagan and bush, they insist we cut spending dramatically while under a Democratic president, they demand cuts in education, and social programs, while calling for never ending war abroad....
They just don't get it. 2012 can't get here soon enough. Enough obstructionism, let's get America back to work.
Santorum is a political opportunist/hater. We had suicide bombings before the timeline was announced, and we'll have them after we all leave.
did santorum blame bush for the americans killed in iraq after bush negotiated his deal in 2008 for a withdrawal by 2011?
does santorum think we should stay in afghanistan forever? if not, does he think we can magically withdraw 100,000 troops there overnight with no notice?
This is just hateful political grandstanding by someone who is desperate to be noticed.
Little Ricky Santorum with only 5% of the voters behind him is so anxious to get noticed in the crowd is like him jumping up and down and yelling, "it's me, I'm over here!" "don't forget about me, please!" "I'm smart too, my mommy told me so!" "I'm a big boy now!"
The record of the Santorum party of lies is clear:
* They ignored prior warning from our intelligence agencies and *allowed the county to be attacked on Sept 11, 2001.*
* They failed to capture Bin Laden and allowed him to escape in Tora Bora.
* They then launched a war of distraction, in Iraq, based on Dick Cheney's lies about WMD'.s
* Now that Bin Laden has been killed by the Obama administration, the party of lies wants to continue _both wars— , essentially forever.
* With the exception of Ron Paul and perhaps John Huntsman the GOP is actually advocating a warfare state with -permanent- occupation of the Middle East - based on whatever excuse or lie they can make up on the spur of the moment.
There are negatives and positives of having a time table to pull out of Afghanistan. But that doesn't make everything negative that happens in Afghanistan the direct result of Obama setting the time table. That is some hard core political spin for you.
There are however direct causes from direct actions of the President. Giving the go ahead to take out Bin Laden, is a direct cause. Taking the lead and then passing the torch to NATO in Libya directly led to the ouster of Quddafi and a free Libya. It was Obama's plan to go with drone strikes that have killed several high ranking Al Queda.
Republicans should stick to domestic issues if they want to attack the president. Foreign relations he has been great
Good post. Obama deserves blame/credit for sending the extra troops to afghanistan, for example. Was that a good decision? I think it seemed so at the time, maybe ultimately it will prove, in hindsight, not to have been...but its hard to criticize it given the information/thinking at the time.
On the other hand, every time you have a 10 year old war and 100,000 troops in a country, a timeline is inevitable. Bush had the same situation in iraq and negotiated the 2011 pullout in 2008, because you can't have an endless non-exit non-strategy with that length and size of a committment and no obviously obtainable military goals.
I think Bush came up with the 2011 withdraw date because he knew he'd be long gone from Washington by that date.
From the date Bush left office we haven't heard a peep from him. He knew the truth was going to come out how he destroyed this country financially. He was fully aware that when the jobs started going in early 2008, he'd own that as well.
I firmly believe both Bush and Cheney should be held accountable for their arrogant destruction of this country. Both of them are nothing more that slippery snakes.
most president are not heard from again after they leave office
it is funny how most on here can Blame Bush for what he did wrong , but refuse to look at those who have not been able to make things better.
Bush is gone Obama has been in for 3 years ,I Bush is such a fool and Obama this great brain , then why are things so screwed up now why cant he fix what you all say Bush broke?
Cherrytom, if you can, at least for the moment, accept a new idea, you can answer your own question by asking yourself, where is the benefit to the Conservative cause if they acknowledged that the President, though imperfect, has performed much better in propping up the US and is clearly not solely motivated by the profit incentive? Perhaps too, you can acknowledge that not all Americans accept as gospel the Ultra-Right's stand on social issues. To think one can legislate a moral compass that all must comply with is, without a doubt, tantamount to the Third Reich.
It's interesting how the Repubs scream about spending being out of control, but that's only when it's in the best interests of the American people. Yet, the skies the limit when it comes to wars, tax cuts and corporate perks. No wonder why the Repubs are blaming Obama for the mess that was created by them because it might end some of the huge defense contracts that gave them huge profits, such as for Halliburton and Cheney.
Never before have we had such a definitive choice for the direction of our country.
I use to vote for the person, but Republicans are into LockStep mode and I refuse to vote for some lockstep party which puts the success of their party over what is best for our - ALL of our- country.
I to used to be a true independent but now I just vote a straight democratic ticket. Don't like the democrats either but they are the least of evils now. I do think we need at least one more party, to take the place of the democrats. There are very few progressives to vote for anymore.
The Republican party has morphed into something that is void of any capacity to relate to other human beings, they despise anyone who does not agree with their style or methods. They detest other Americans and would prefer to see those in the middle class to be wiped out so they can have their pure country.
These people are sick, dangerous liars. Teapublicans have brought a festering cancer to this country and we had better be smart and brave enough to end their hold over this country once and for all. If we don't, we have only ourselves to blame
JBurns- The teabaggers and GOP are trying to do the same thing Hitler did. Americans need to see this in ads come election time. They try to cover their intentions as good...... So did Hitler!
Rick Santorum,
The timeline was for Iraq, not Afghanistan and the Taliban has been using bombs and suicide bombers long before Obama came along. They used them on me and other soldiers back in 2003 and will be using them long after Barack Obama is gone.
Why don't you enlist, go to Afghanistan and find out why they are using bombs and while you are there you can serve your country and make the ultimate sacrifice. Be alot better than spouting off on something you know nothing about.
Him enlist?? You're kidding!! He's just the kind of Creep they'd corner in a 'Blanket-Party' and kick the Santorum out of!!
Dear Mr. Sanitorium:
And I blame YOU for the debt crisis and for crashing the economy by voting for the policies that did it! But, nobody cares what you think!
Yep, he supported Bush all the way right into major debt. We dumped him in Pa. as a Senator and don't want him in the White House.
That is a joke, right?
Liberals always talk with Chit in their Mouth. Santorum didn't vote for the Politicies that put us into Debt.
The Congress and Senate was controled by the YOUR AZZ HOLE .DEMORATS.
From January 2001 until January of 2007 the Republican party had control of the White House, the House of Representatives, and the Senate. During that time they passed several tax cuts, and more importantly, INCREASED spending, not just military spending, but domestic spending as well. The results were easy to see - a series of record breaking deficits that lead to nearly doubling the National Debt.
The fact is, over half of the current National Debt was acquired under just 3 Republican Presidents - Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.
Yeah...oh...ok...Mr' Liberal (CM6969)...so let me get this straight the "D's" are NOT the ones who are always pushing for more spending...and more taxing...it was Reagan who teed up a bunch and Obama is just bending over backwards to reduce spending in gov't. Ok...got it... you Liberals are blind, dumb, ignorant, brain washed. It's truly amazing how stupid you all are. What's next? Men didn't really walk on the moon, right? And Bush invented 911, right? You liberals are turly pathetic, immature cry babies.
@MrkAnthny63:
You can't invent a 911. However you can facilitate it! And Mr Bush an company let 911 happen because they did not listen and rebuffed good solid intellengence from the people appointed to give such information. On spending: There is good spending and there is bad spending. Your house needs repairs, your family needs health care, and the car broke down--good spending! You go out on the town carrousing, whoremonging, getting drunk, and raising hell--bad spending! Just my $.02. Peace!