Cain, showing signs of wear, to lighten campaign load

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. -- Despite largely ignoring the key early nominating states in recent weeks, Herman Cain’s campaign indicated this week it plans to dial down the Republican presidential candidate's schedule.

And Cain’s day on the trail on Saturday might give a glimpse into why.

In one day, Cain won a straw poll, predicted victory in a primary, scolded unruly Ron Paul supporters, and flipped a quarter at midfield before a college football game.

The former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza held eight public events in his two-day swing through Alabama. Saturday night he headed to Washington, DC, for an appearance on CBS’s “Face The Nation” this morning.

Cain has spent the past two weeks clarifying his stance on issues like abortion, where during an television interview he seemed to say the government should not play a role in regulating women who wish to have the procedure.

“For example, in retrospect, doing a taped interview following a debate, following some interviews probably wasn't a good idea,” he said, referring to his appearance on Piers Morgan where he made the comments, “because you know I'm only a human being, and you reach a point where if you get too tired you're not on your A game.”

On Thursday, Cain needed to turn to a handler to figure out where he was the night before. The answer was Arkansas.

"I wouldn't say we're going to dial it down,” Cain said. “We're going to be more deliberate on the type of things we do when I've had a very full schedule.”

Yesterday, a normally unseen side of Cain’s came to light at the West Alabama State Straw Poll, when a he told the vocal Ron Paul contingent in attendance to stop interrupting his speech.

Cain, the only candidate to attend, was noticeably testy with the heavily pro-Paul audience that packed the crowd. While listing the crises the nation faces, a Paul supporter yelled, "The Fed," to which Cain told her, "I will be giving this speech, not you."

Cain, a former member of the board of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank, was also booed for saying the Fed can be fixed without being ended.

Still, Cain went on to win the poll with more than a majority of the vote. Paul garnered support from 45% of attendees for second place. Later that evening a Des Moines Register Poll was released that had Cain leading Romney among likely Iowa caucus goers.

At his next stop at Samford University, Cain declared he would win the South Carolina primary.

"I predict that we will win South Carolina,” he said. “I predict that we will finish 1st or 2nd in Iowa, 1st or 2nd in New Hampshire, not going to go out on a limb there, but I predict we will win South Carolina."

From there, he campaigned throughout campus, with throngs of students and supporters lining up to shake his hand and get a picture. He was introduced before the university’s football game and did the coin toss. Samford lost to Western Carolina University.

On Friday, Cain spoke to a crowd of about 100 at the Annistan Tea Party breakfast. He said he would cut 10% from all federal agencies by executive order. Then his cabinet members would need to find another 10% to cut. He said he would give federal workers the choice of early retirement or reassignment.

"Who said anything about firing federal workers?" Cain said. "I'm going to give them a choice: early retirement or reassignment. They say where are you going to reassign them? I understand that there's an empty building in Nome, Alaska. It's their choice."

Throughout his time in the state, Cain faced the same question: Why Alabama?

At his final event here, Cain signaled he plans to be in the race for the long run, which is why he is spending time in a state that doesn’t hold its primary until March.

“I don’t want to wait until March to come to Alabama and let you know what I stand for,” he said.

Cain surrogate Dale Peterson, the failed candidate for Alabama Agriculture Commissioner and YouTube star, defended Cain being in Alabama.

"Why not Alabama?” Peterson told NBC News. “Don't we count? I know we do. And in Alabama we give a rip about who's going to be president."

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Who said anything about firing federal workers?" Cain said. "I'm going to give them a choice: early retirement or reassignment. They say where are you going to reassign them? I understand that there's an empty building in Nome, Alaska. It's their choice."

I think Herman Cains is the only one that needs to retire. Statements like this are not only absurd, they are also offensive and ignorant.

He needs to stop trolling around with this rhetoric and offer some realistic solutions, if he wishes to be considered as a potential candidate. However, the tea party loves this kind of statements. The more asinine, the better.

  • 46 votes
#1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:23 AM EDT

They are already doing stupid sh!t like this with the Border Patrol services and personnel. They deliberately misallocate funds and resources into the wrong areas so they can then b!tch about government workers and their "inefficiencies".

  • 18 votes
#1.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:15 AM EDT

Is there a Republican candidate who isn't fearful of science or knowledge, full of venom and hatred of hard working public servants, beholden to the wealthy and powerful, or just plain nasty and ignorant? Meeting the requirements of the right wing base or the Tea Bigot zealots is near impossible. Too bad Attila the Hun is dead. What they really want is a good old fashioned, free-thinking, live-off-the-land savage ruler who we can set on the rest of the planet to plunder and wreck havoc. Too bad, eh?

  • 37 votes
#1.2 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

What an arrogant prick.

Nome Alaska...he makes a joke of peoples lives and jobs.

And if he cannot take campaigning at this point, he has demonstrated that he is not up to the job of a nominee, much less an actual President. He cannot take criticism.

He is a despot, and we don't elect them.

Flavor of the month for the GOP

They have had so many. Trump, Perry, Newt, Bachman, Christie and on and on...Cain is just another one. He will fade too.

  • 33 votes
#1.3 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:08 AM EDT
Comment author avatarObama, a failed experimentExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Cain is no more aggrogant than the current pick we have in White House.

  • 15 votes
#1.4 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:23 AM EDT
Comment author avatar25WalkerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Obama, a failed experiment

Cain is no more aggrogant than the current pick we have in White House.#1.4 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:23 AM EDT

"Obama,"

Cain is not President Obama's intellectual, political, or moral equal - by an standard.

Obama is highly reflective, more political astute and moral sane.

Paradoxically, Cain repeatedly makes "off the cuff" remarks, he is pushing a disastrous and non-reflective 9-9-9 economic plan, he knows how to "work" the media, but he is not necessarily politically astute and his moral standards on human issues are cold and callous. Cain sings at campaign stops and he is quite outlandish!

Cain would not lead America in a progressive direction.

If anyone should retire and move to Nome, Alaska - it should be Herman Cain.

  • 36 votes
#1.5 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:45 AM EDT

Correction:

Obama is highly reflective, more politically astute and moral sane.

  • 14 votes
#1.6 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:49 AM EDT

Cain's not running for President, he's selling books. He's just a black Sarah Palin, not running foo real. Just wait, he'll be gone when it's time to spend the real money he's raised.

  • 36 votes
#1.7 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:55 AM EDT
Comment author avatarMarshal Smokin JusticeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

you left ist folks wont be happy until we are all wearing gray, working for the republic and standing in food lines. WAKE UP.

You are right herman Cain is not "politically savy" and thats what we need. Some one who knows how to fix the current problems. not talk about them.

you people are so fast to jump to conclusions. He wants to disband certain useless federal agencies. so the people there will have to go some where. retiring or being reassigned is not firing.

I would say this the retiring part would come from those in the federal gov agencies nation wide who are close to retiring or those who have exeeded the 25 year limit. this would open positions for those displaced by the closing of the aforementioned usless agencies.

If you think the Veterans of this country are going to sit on the sidelines and watch you brainless liberal "followers" lead us into socialism you need to rethink your constutional values. if you cant uphold it leave.

you dont have the right to tell the rest of the NON folloers how to live

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:14 PM EDT

What is offensive and ignorant are the people supporting this big-mouthed bully. He has said nothing of substance and spews hatred toward anyone that is not in the upper percent of wealth. He is then called honest and refreshing by his followers. This is what the GOTPers are supporting. Very frightening.

  • 24 votes
#1.9 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:16 PM EDT

"Cain to lighten campaign load."

I think he need to visit the toilet and lighten the load of crap in his head.

This man wants to make Muslims take a vow of loyalty to the USA.

Strange, how the Republicans love black politicians like Cain and Adam West. Both are Oreo cookies, black bigots in white man's clothes.

  • 16 votes
#1.10 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:24 PM EDT

Herman Cain is a place holder. Nobody really believes he'll become POTUS. Repubs who can't stand Romney are just treadding water while they decide which of the other mental midgets is least offensive.

  • 19 votes
#1.11 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:31 PM EDT

Is there a Republican candidate who isn't fearful of science or knowledge

If we allowed evolution to actually take its course, the weak would perish. You dont want that do you? Because we are a compassionate people right? Stop with the fearful of science crap.

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:48 PM EDT
Comment author avatarObamanaticExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

"Cain is not President Obama's intellectual, political, or moral equal - by an standard"

25Walker

You left out PHYSICAL. The head of state and commander in chief is a physically taxing job. Eventually Uncle Tom Cain will succumb to the rigors of eighteen hour days.

The press made other cancer survivors produce their medical records. somehow Uncle Tom Cain is getting a pass on this issue. His poor health is not currently an issue with the used tea bags.

However, if he is the teabag nominee, he is going to have to release his medical records to convince the voters that he can go the distance if elected.

  • 14 votes
#1.13 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:02 PM EDT

"On Thursday, Cain needed to turn to a handler to figure out where he was the night before. The answer was Arkansas."

Happened to me once when I was in my 20's, but I was heavily inebriated. Give it up Herm.

  • 13 votes
#1.14 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:11 PM EDT
Comment author avatarKornfedExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

O'bama thinks there are how many states? How many countries in the world did Biden say there was? Give me a break libs.

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:16 PM EDT

Initially I found Herman Cain amusing.

Now, this book peddler is inserting even more divisive vitriol in our political narrative. He even turns on republican voters who dare to challenge him. This is not just bad for the GOP it is bad for the nation.

Where are the conservatives like Goldwater, Bush Sr. and Reagan? While I disagree with much of their ideology, I knew they loved their country and wanted to serve. Why no attention for Gov. Huntsman? He does not kiss the a$$ of troll haired trump, rejects birtherism and other form of race baiting, yet most people do not know he is running.

Most in my family are conservatives, several admit that their party is hijacked by Christian extremists. Does the GOP really need people who "joke" about killing people with electrified fences, cheer death, encourage rabid personal hate for an elected president?

Cain should dial it all the way back to just selling books.

  • 16 votes
#1.16 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:22 PM EDT

Cain is scared to death he might actually get the nomination - he hadn't planned on that!

  • 12 votes
#1.17 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:26 PM EDT

jrae-1215199, You might be trying to be funny, but actually I can believe that. That's exactly what I thought, when I read the headline.

  • 3 votes
#1.18 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:49 PM EDT

Kornfed: I think you dropped your ditto talking notes from 3 years ago....no one believes that the Prez did anything but make a mistake on the campaign trail (he was talking about districts). However the guy who didn't quite know that the right wing nuts think being anti-abortion means in every case, whether or not a woman's life is at stake and regardless of the fact abortion is legal....well now THAT guy has a helluva lot more to learn than where the "STAN" countries are (Can't quite remember a time when a supposed legiitimate candidate for president couldn't even name the country or that country's President we're currently engaged in a war in.) It'd be laughable if the Republican field wasn't just so pathetic.

  • 7 votes
#1.19 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:26 PM EDT

Kornfed: I think you dropped your ditto talking notes from 3 years ago....no one believes that the Prez did anything but make a mistake on the campaign trail (he was talking about districts).

You must have missed the point I was making. I was answering a charge that Cain was somehow unfit for a moment of absent mindedness.

). However the guy who didn't quite know that the right wing nuts think being anti-abortion means in every case, whether or not a woman's life is at stake and regardless of the fact abortion is legal...

He got caught in a lie, that was quite obvious. I think he believes that it is not the governments role to make those decisions, which I completely agree with. He has to stick to those talking points to please the base. The fact that he is not a particularly good liar brings me even more comfort.

Stick to the establishment candidates eh? Now hows that workin out for ya???

  • 1 vote
#1.20 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT

At first glance I thought this Occupy Wall Street lady was a bit pissed off at Mr Cain but after further review, the ruffled feathers have most certainly got to be an integral and permanent part of her clueless personality.

The smug arrogance with which she refers to him "IF HE WISHES TO BECOME A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE"

I've got a clue for you Darlin. He already IS A CANDIDATE. . . . . . . . . . . Tell um Gomer says: Dah Huah

Genetic Defect.

  • 1 vote
#1.21 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

There are a number of things about Cain that should be troubling to Conservatives:

1) As an employee of Pillsbury, Cain dramatically reduced the size (and revenue and profits) for the Godfather's pizza chain. He also did several things such as deferring a lot of maintenance, moving to self-insurance, and slowing payments to vendors that made Godfather's seem to have lots of cash while actually declining as a business. Then he joined with a group of investors to buy out Godfather's, essentially using his job with Pillsbury to set up a deal whereby the investors used Godfather's own cash to finance the purchase. They portrayed Godfather's to Pillsbury as a failing business with declining sales, that had slipped from 3rd to 5th as a chain. They made Cain CEO. Godfather's remained flat in revenues and profits during Cain's tenure, but accumulated massive debt as the deferred maintenance and other of his initiatives took their toll. If Cain would be that disloyal to his employer, Pillsbury, is he really what Conservatives would want for President? If he used insider information and actually did harm to Godfather's as a Pillsbury employee, what might he do as President?

2) From 1989-1992, Cain was an executive with the Federal Reserve, first at their Omaha bank and late as the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Kansas City Region. The more toward Ron Paul the more that Conservatives dislike and distrust the Fed. But this guy has "FED" stamped all over him.

3) Cain is a mathematician by education, training, and vocation. But his 9-9-9 Plan (now 9-0-9 for some and 9-9-0 for others) was coincocted with no idea of the impact of the numbers on revenue or individual taxpayers. His "estimates" of how much would be paid by whom were nowhere near what would be required to be revenue-neutral and its impact on middle- and lower-class Americans was underestimated by a factor of five. Cain later revised it to 9-0-9 for some and 9-9-0 for others and then allowed that it was only a stepping-stone to a 30% sales tax with no corporate taxes. How does a mathematician blunder so badly with the numbers? Or was this just gobbledy-gook to keep Conservatives happy?

4) Since the age of 10, Cain has been a member of one of the most liberal, activist, and Democratic Party-supporting churches in Atlanta, Antioch Baptist Church. He is currently an associate (lay) pastor and deacon at one of the largest churches in Atlanta (over 14,000 members and over 90% African-American.) Antioch Baptist was an ardent supporter of ACORN until its demise and was associated with Andrew Young, Maynard Jackson, and numerous Civil Rights leaders associated with Dr. King and the SLCC. Recently Cain's name was removed from all places on the church's web site. One would think that they would be very proud of having an associate pastor and deacon running for the nomination to be President, but apparently they are not. Why?

5) Cain refuses to name his advisers. They could be Jerry Brown and Mickey Mouse for all we know. If Cain's advisers are Conservative, why are no Conservatives stepping forward to say so? Having a long list of well-known Conservatiuve businessmen and economists, as he claims, behind him and helping him address issues would be an asset. Is it that he doesn't want Conservatives to know who they are, or that they simply don't exist?

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:53 PM EDT

I would think twice about electing someone who is not only ignorant enough, but disrespectful enough to make a joke about not knowing the president of Uzbeki-beki-stan-stan. I'm surprised that I haven't seen any comments about how disrespectful that is to the people of that country. His attitude indicates to me that to Herman Cain, ignorance is a virtue. I wouldn't want someone with that attitude as the President of my country. Do we want our leaders to represent the lowest common denominator of our country, or the best and brightest?

  • 4 votes
#1.23 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT

Ironically, you all seem to be racists hehe....well, via the usual liberal criteria at least.

  • 1 vote
#1.24 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:39 PM EDT

Give the old man a rocking chair, he is toast already.

  • 4 votes
#1.25 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

25Walker

Would you care for more Kool-"aid"???????

    #1.26 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:00 PM EDT

    Cautiously, Post 1.10, you said it and very funny!

    People, not only is he a nut-case, he's running out of steam. POTUS keeps a pretty active schedule. I don't think he's up to the task.

    I must say I love his ad with his campaign manager blowing smoke into the camera............ :)

    Come one. Let's get serious. Who is the Republican candidate? Curious minds want to know. I can't take the suspense much longer.

    • 3 votes
    #1.27 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:40 PM EDT

    Chris-749391 and Heartlight3 have brought out points that are not "liberal" but I notice the conservative members of the thread are avoiding them like the plague. No doubt they're looking for good talking points but can't find any to fit.

    As in Independent voter I was hoping to find new blood this election cycle and am saddened that the most viable candidate as far as actually sane AND would be good is so far down the pack most people don't know he's running. Instead we have a warmed over loser from last time (Romney), a warmed over loser from years past (Gingrich), Georgie Bush-lite and crazy (Perry), Religious Right Barbie (Bachmann), the re-hash king (Paul) and finally foot-in-mouth-disease (Cain).

    It's frightening how seriously they're taking Cain, too, considering how many times he's "mis-stated" something that he later said was a joke or he didn't get to finish what he was saying and now we hear it's because he's just so darned tired from the campaigning. If campaigning makes him so tired he can't remember what he thinks about a subject, what would the presidency do to him?

    For all the semi-rabid Cain-fans I find on various forums, I have yet to have any find it frightening that he won't or can't tell us who is advisors are. Is it because the voices are in his head or because the Koch brothers are it and if he admits that, it looks bad? I have yet to see any admit that having a president not know what the other countries of the world are is a bad thing. I have yet to see any who think that a president should know what he stands for and not say "it's a joke" when people get offended by the statement.

    • 2 votes
    #1.28 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:05 PM EDT

    Herman Cain seems to be perfectly suited to be the Repubs Pres candudate. Already needs some down time, will probably make Ray-gun & Dumbiyah look like pikers when he piles up vacation days if elected. Not likely, that could happen! Take a nap Grand Paw!

    • 1 vote
    #1.29 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:47 PM EDT

    hehe, you all are funny.

      #1.30 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:03 PM EDT

      Mr. Cain, If you are already exhausted you better drop out. We already had one idiot president that let his VP run the show.

      • 2 votes
      #1.31 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:03 PM EDT

      Obama, a failed experiment

      Cain is no more aggrogant than the current pick we have in White House.#1.4 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:23 AM EDT

      "Obama,"

      Cain is not President Obama's intellectual, political, or moral equal - by any standard.

      Obama is highly reflective, more politically astute and morally sane.

      Paradoxically, Cain repeatedly makes "off the cuff" remarks, he is pushing a disastrous and non-reflective 9-9-9 economic plan, he knows how to "work" the media, but he is not necessarily politically astute and his moral standards on human issues are cold and callous. Cain sings at campaign stops and he is quite outlandish!

      Cain would not lead America in a progressive direction.

      If anyone should retire and move to Nome, Alaska - it should be Herman Cain.

        #1.32 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT

        Funny thing--you right wingers come on what you call a "liberal rag", (MSNBC). The winner is MSNBC because the advertisers pay for hits. Thanks, Neocons for your support of Newsvine and MSNBC. I never go to Fux News website and refuse to watch any program that Murdock has his creepy hands on.

        • 4 votes
        #1.33 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:40 PM EDT

        Someone need to piss test Walker. He appears to be seriously on drugs.

        Chris is pretending as if he knows something too. I would be curious just how these Kool Aid drinkers come by there personal information as if they were sitting in on High Lever Board Meetings. I suspect drugs for him as well

          #1.34 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:18 PM EDT
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          yangchengDeleted

          He won a straw poll by about 20 votes over a guy who wasn't speaking, in a state where his voters came in buy bus, in a state not yet targeted for primaries. He on the same day lost to Ron Paul the IOWA Des Moines straw poll where 82% of the people actually from Iowa voted for Ron Paul. They broke out the out of state vote separately, and Cain did better there, closer behind Ron Paul who won that as well.

          It is a long time before the primary comes to Tuscaloosa.

          • 11 votes
          Reply#3 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:14 AM EDT

          Cain is a corporate shill and the tea party is for no tax increases ever on the rich. His 999 plan will raise taxes on 84% of the people, of course the 84% of the poorest people. The top 16% will get millions and millions in tax cuts. Makes Cain backers the Koch brothers very very happy.

          Meanwhile Cain wants to rid our country of our social security program. To hear republicans talk, only democrats use social security and medicare. I wonder why it is that 64% of republicans think we should raise taxes on the richest too?

          Social security is solvent for another at least 25 years. Why are republicans attacking it like it has anything to do with the deficit problem? I can only assume that republicans love to see the old suffer.

          Corporations are ending retirement programs, the stock market has relieved us of much of our retirement savings and the final knife in the back lets kill social security too. And they wonder why people are marching in the streets.

          At our board meeting yesterday, my non-profit group voted to end our Bank of America accounts and move to a local bank. Our support for the 99%. In both internships and volunteer positions, we train kids for their first job. We give kids a second chance if they get in trouble and sincerely want to change. No drugs, cigarettes, alcohol or gangs are allowed. The kids police each other and don't allow mistreatment of fellow workers.

          Now only if our government and people running for office like Cain cared for the people even half as much as our kids working in the coffee shop, no one would need to protest.

          • 21 votes
          Reply#4 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:18 AM EDT

          Cain isn't a shill for the banksters, Cain IS a bankster! A former FED chairman, at that. Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, 1996. Of COURSE the banksters want him, or Obama, or Romney. They always get their way--except, EXCEPT, this time there is someone to spoil their little party. Ron Paul.

          • 1 vote
          #4.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT

          Don't kid yourself Ron Paul always votes for the 1%. Just like he voted for all the bush tax cuts, just like he voted to not end the oil companies tax breaks. When he had a opportunity to vote against the Irag war, he voted with the republicans to continue it.

          For the people he voted to not raise the minimum wage.

          The only party Ron is going to spoil is yours.

          • 1 vote
          #4.2 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:42 PM EDT
          Reply

          What an @!$%#. I won't fire them but they can either quit voluntarily or be reassigned to a building in Alaska. How does the GOP keep coming up with these excrebable candidates?

          • 26 votes
          Reply#5 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:43 AM EDT

          Very soon he will say that he was "Just joking". And when he gets pressed on it he will say people need to get a life and develop a sense of humor.........The reponse to that should be that there is nothing funny about the destruction of the middle class here in America. NO ONE should rightly find amusement in that, except for Plutocrats.

          • 24 votes
          #5.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:53 AM EDT

          Right. Forced to relocate their families when they may have lived in a community for years and had planned to retire there, put strains on relationships when perhaps a partner has a good job and doesn't want to leave, sell their home at a probable loss in an upside-down market . . . Isn't this the same guy who said: "If you don't have a job it's your fault"? Mr. Compassion.

          • 8 votes
          #5.2 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:11 PM EDT
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          If he cannot campaign, there is no way he can be President. The President is on duty 24/7.

          The VP running with Cain would be more important than Cain if he cannot hack it now.

          So sure! Make him the Republicon nominee! It will only strengthen the Democratic Landslide of 2012.

          • 18 votes
          Reply#6 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:02 AM EDT

          This is just another way of saying "i've no chance and am looking for ways to slip out the back door" There was never ever going to be a chance that this guy was going anywhere. Lately, he's been sticking his foot squarely in his mouth. Join the club called the Republican Party.

          • 5 votes
          #6.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:34 PM EDT

          Monday morning news: 2 women were paid off after sexual harassment charges against KochCain were settled

          This changes my question about KochCain to even more questions:

          1. Can he really hack the 24/7 Presidential schedule?

          2. Is he hiding out, waiting out for the sexual harassment information to "blow over?"

          and How many more women will be coming forward?

          • 2 votes
          #6.2 - Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:50 AM EDT
          Reply

          There's less books in the bus, of course it's lighter. All the way to the bank.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#7 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

          Does anyone see a pattern here going back to nixon(crook) reagen(bad actor)bush(liar)and now to the future,you choose just one anyone of todays gop's they make the past look normal scary isn't it or sad as the case maybe! no way these idiots can run a country.

          • 10 votes
          Reply#8 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:10 AM EDT

          Reagan was a good enough "actor" to be an excellent "CON_MAN". He fooled 51% OF US LONG ENOUGH to set us on the path to ruin we deal with to this day.

          • 16 votes
          #8.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

          Reagan created millions of jobs, brought down the Berlin wall and the Soviet Union. It was no act. He was a real leader.

          • 8 votes
          #8.2 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:56 AM EDT

          Don't forget he gave 11 million illegal aliens amnesty.

          • 10 votes
          #8.3 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:07 PM EDT

          The Soviet Union was always destined to fail. Remember? And the Berlin wall came down under George Herman Walker BUSH.....REMEMBER? Government "Doesn't create jobs!" REMEMBER? tnt4him: Are you just ignorant, or suffering from altzhiemers too? Just another dunce, conned by the CON_MEN. Leave us out of your delusions, please. By the way, Russia still has NUKES and ICBMs.

          • 5 votes
          #8.4 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:31 PM EDT

          Ronald Raygun (zap) was outspending the Soviet Union with his starwars plan. Remember this also. The Soviet Union was it Afghanistan spending its money on a war they could not win. My my is history repeating its self?

          • 8 votes
          #8.5 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT
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          Mitt - Mitt is our man if he can't do it no one can !! go Team

            Reply#9 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:19 AM EDT

            blip, blip, you're an idiot.

              #9.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:02 PM EDT
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              Wow, Mr. Cain...You think you're tired now?! Wait til the phone rings at 3 o'clock in the morning.

              • 11 votes
              Reply#10 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:32 AM EDT

              I didn't know Cain had even started to campaign yet. Appears to be a book selling thing this far. He does not mention foreign affairs, does not mention social security or medicare and talks of nothing but his 9-9-9 Plan that would never pass Congress anyway because it simply will not work. Why do people think raising the sales tax on everything they buy a great idea? If they do, then they simply are not understanding it. Even Karl Rowe thinks it's stupid.

              If someone can not even talk about saving social security or has no plans to improve it, then I won't look at them twice. People want solutions and plans, not to talk about apples and oranges and watch his silly ads that say nothing. Gez, he's just as flakey as Trump, Bachmann and Perry.

              • 9 votes
              Reply#11 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

              Isn't it interesting how Democrats view a black man called Cain when he runs on the Republican ticket. He is stupid has no stamina and is only a joke. Sounds like typical racist rhetoric to me considering he has run major corporations speaks well and knows how to lead. It seems to me the Democrats were touting a man last election who spoke well never led anything in his life, never really worked in his life, had most everything handed to him for free, spent very little time on the job as a senator and was only half black. Maybe that other half being black made them turn on Cain. The tea party is supporting Cain and Democrats have the gaul to call them white racists. What a joke is a Democrat.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#12 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

              Typical republican tit for tat although you have more tat than tit Ray. Obama was handed everything for free??? You typed that with a straight face? You guys always forget Obama was a state senator in Illinois for 7 years, "ran" the Harvard Law Review, taught "Constitutional" law and after moving to Chicago saw a need to help disenfranchised communities by encouraging groups to to mobilize around the issue of asbestos behind the walls of housing projects where poor people lived. He may not have run a business employing thousands of low paying workers while closing half the stores, sat at the Kansas Fed (where coincidently, Koch Industries headquarters is in Wichita, which incidentally are major backers of Cain's presidential campaign) or used a campaign as a book tour so I guess Obama and Cain do have apples to apples comparisons given that both of their fathers were black.

              The GOP put up another "black" conservative that said outrageous and ridiculous things against Obama in Illinois and that went over really well. Your entire post is about race, so check in the mirror. Most of the comments are about Koch-Cain's absence of depth, inability to understand complexity of issues, and utter lack of intellectual curiousity (which is a common trait of GOP candidates) not to mention his douch-baggery when cavalierly telling people they can move to Nome, Alaska if they don't like it and to protesters to simply "get a job" since it is so easy right now. Yes, that plays to the knuckle draggers in the Tea Party but it won't play well to the general election. He is a joke and the late-night comedians are salivating at the material he will be providing in the next 6 months.

              • 11 votes
              #12.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:59 PM EDT

              Foolish post, Ray.

              • 5 votes
              #12.2 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:56 PM EDT

              Ray, interesting. You find him highly qualified BECAUSE he's Black? Isn't that an interesting position for a Republican to hold.

              • 7 votes
              #12.3 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

              Good post Ray,

              Nothing scares these racist Democrats more than a free black man that won't live on their welfare plantation.

              • 3 votes
              #12.4 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:57 PM EDT
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              Reading these post its no wonder why our country is headed for disaster with our current administrations plans for socialized redistribution of wealth. Higher taxes! More public sector jobs! Its a dumb idea that that Europe is paying dearly for now. Dial up or dial down Herman Cain has my vote because he understands that wealth is the back bone of our economy. It takes money to create jobs. If only you die hard liberals would think for yourself and stop spewing character slander and twisted exaggerations on what you think some is or stands for.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#13 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:51 AM EDT

              Cain's 9-9-9 plan clearly illustrates he doesn't understand the economy. Within two days of his pizza gingle of a tax plan he had to backtrack on it because it was wrong. What the heck does he know? His tax plan is higher taxes, so you might want to reevaluate your support.

              Does it take money to make jobs? Right now the private secter has a lot of money sitting in the bank but no jobs. There goes that theory.

              Europe isn't paying dearly because of public sector jobs, that's crazy talk. Europe is struggling right now because a couple of countries have solvency problems (yes, due in part because they all retire at 50 and work less all along the way), but the problems in Europe are primarily because of banks (!), who've all become intertwined and leveraged beyond reason. Greece is pathetic-- but don't blame Greece's stupid social programs on the French. Blame the French for investing in Greece.

              Besides, Germany too, has many social programs that, I'm sure, make you sick. But Germany is solvent and thriving. They're doing so well, that it seems to be their job to fix all of the Eurozone. So the idea that socialized redistribution of wealth is killing Europe is plain wrong- see Germany for the facts that debunk your theory.

              • 7 votes
              #13.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:27 PM EDT

              “Socialized redistribution of wealth”? You don’t seriously believe that, now do you? You’re just one of those dittohead shills out there creating inaccurate and misleading cliches and slogans for the hoi poloi, aren’t you?

              “Twisted exagerations”? It’s hard to twist what’s coming out of the mouths of Cain, Palin, Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich and the rest of these bizarre, socially stunted cretins. They do that by themselves.

              • 6 votes
              #13.2 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:04 PM EDT

              Hmm. Higher taxes and putting more $$ into unproductive public sector jobs is a dumb idea. I'm with you so far. But then WHY raise taxes with a NEW 9% SALES TAX?? Cain is a bankster, and wants to keep the bankster-run government going, of, for and by the banksters.

              • 4 votes
              #13.3 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

              It takes money to create jobs? Well, where are they. Haven't you read the financials lately. Corporations are holding onto billions if not trillions of dollars in profit. Still haven't seen those JOBS you talk about. That statement is not only old but has been demonstrated to be utterly false. On to the next Tea Party "slogan".

              • 4 votes
              #13.4 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:19 PM EDT

              If all it takes is money to create jobs, then we'd be rolling in jobs, since the corporations are taking in their greatest profits ever. Don't believe me. Check out those pinko rags like Wall Street Journal. Or read a few financial statements. It's all there in black and white. They're rolling in the dough, they're just not sharing it. That's what the 99% is complaining about.

              • 3 votes
              #13.5 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:11 PM EDT

              'independant'- you're right, its trillions

              I only hope 'tnt' takes a look at the facts him/herself and find that he's being bamboozled

                #13.6 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:38 PM EDT
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                The George Castanza campaign. Whatever the others are doing, he does the opposite. They're ramping up activities, so Cain is going to scale back.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#14 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:55 AM EDT

                How light a load does Cain think the President has? Cain wouldn't last ten minutes as President. I mean really, he's so taxed now having to flip a coin at a football game and sell some of his fake books? Oh, please, GOP, nominate this clown or at least make him Romney's VP!

                • 8 votes
                Reply#15 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:58 AM EDT

                Who said anything about firing federal workers?" Cain said. "I'm going to give them a choice: early retirement or reassignment. They say where are you going to reassign them? I understand that there's an empty building in Nome, Alaska. It's their choice."

                Here is the voice of the uncaring corporate overlords folks. If workers get fired or laid off, you have to give them umemployment insurance. If you give them a choice between transferring to Nome, Alaska or quitting - and they quit because they can't afford to pay the cost of relocating, then they have quit. And presto - no unemployment insurance.

                Does it work? Well, let's just say that what used to be the largest private employer in the state of Washington has used this for decades. Just ask some of the 40,000 who were laid off in the mid 90's when the airline industry decided it didn't need as many new jets.

                How do I know? I was one of them. I was given a choice that tripled my commute.

                • 12 votes
                Reply#16 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:05 PM EDT

                Misleading headline.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#17 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:08 PM EDT

                Maybe if Cain stopped spending so much time shilling his book, he would have time to treat his presidential campaign with the seriousness that the presidency deserves. That he continues to joke about serious issues, and denigrate huge swaths of the population, only serves to reinforce the impression that he's not ready for prime time, and probably never will be.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#18 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:11 PM EDT

                What presidential campaign? He’s just a self-serving egotist trying to sell some books and otherwise “announce” a coming out to the ruling oligarchy - a sort of Jessee Jackson of the conservatives.

                • 3 votes
                #18.1 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:06 PM EDT
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                “because you know I'm only a human being, and you reach a point where if you get too tired you're not on your A game.”

                Please do not wake or speak to cain when the 3 am call comes .... he be tired.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#19 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:12 PM EDT

                If Herman Cain has to change his schedule because he can't be on his 'A game' when addressing reporters and constituents, I can't imagine how capable he would be at running a nation, or defending it.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#20 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:13 PM EDT

                All we hear is how the wealthy need tax relief ( flat tax ) while everyone else needs higher taxes from the Repub's while the Demo's want to tax the wealthy ( which will end up paying 1/10 more to the federal tax acount total input. But what they don't say is no Congress will pass a flat tax. Not gonna happen in our life times. So what is happening, straddle the fence, talk the talk politicians with no real clue, just doing what Lobbists write up and pay for, many not even reading it.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#21 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:24 PM EDT

                Cain is their best??? OBAMA LANDSLIDE 2012!

                • 8 votes
                Reply#22 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

                ALABAMA home of the imbred returds

                • 3 votes
                Reply#23 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:28 PM EDT

                One can carry a load of hate and bull@!$%# only so long. Take a nice long rest herman....we need it.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#24 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:32 PM EDT

                Common 1/2 the citizens pay $750 a month rent, $115 a month gas and electric, $212 a month car payment, $275 a month groceries and no taxes except to the state. Somewhere along the line the Governments have to fugure out that they don't have any money to give to Universities to do research on frogs, and snails, no money for grants for newts and algies. No money for Oil companies or Arabs. No moneys for foreign aide to basic enemies or friends of dubious distinction. No money for Lobbists. No money for Business deals or deals period. Sooner than later they need to open their eyes, it's a world economy now and the world will need to pay for these deals if it wants to.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#25 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:35 PM EDT

                Cain is just running to sell his books and lectures. He isn't Presidential material and the only ones who would truly believe that are poorly educated.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#26 - Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:40 PM EDT
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