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Subscribe to RSSIn response to comments made by activist Apostle Claver, who is black, saying, "It's the Democratic party that's the racists," during an event Cain spoke at an hour later and likely didn't hear, Cain's spokesman said, "Our campaign is all about promoting civil dialogue."
But it was Cain, who in 2005, wrote, "[C]ongressional Democrats do not want all Americans to drink from the same retirement fountains. They insinuate that we are not smart enough to ride in the front of the retirement bus with them. … At least with separate water fountains blacks and whites each had water to drink."
And he wrote of Social Security that it is "built-in discrimination," that "deceased black men essentially fund a large percentage of the retirement income of elderly white women," and he called it "immoral," "oppressive," and that it and the tax code impose "involuntary servitude."
He has also said during this campaign that "African Americans have been brainwashed" into voting for Democrats.
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Who is it again that is playing the race card?
There is a very distinct pattern of Mr. Cain NOT being comfortable in his own skin...
If that is the case then, the Cain camp would be well served NOT to invite Mr. Claver to any more of their rallies!
Please read my article: "HERMAN 'BIGSBY' CAIN: BLACK WHITE SUPREMACIST" for more on the issue of Black White Supremacy exhibited by Claver and Cain. http://open.salon.com/blog/ronrobinson/2011/10/17/herman_bigsby_cain_black_white_supremacist
Dear Mr. Claver:
THOSE WERE RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE "CHRISTIANS" NOT LIBERALS WHO BOBMED BLACK CHURCHES AND BURNED BLACK BABIES ALIVE, LYNCHED BLACK MEN, PREVENTED BLACKS FROM VOTING, DRESSED UP IN KKK REGALIA AND BURNED CROSSES ON THE LAWNS OF BLACK FAMILIES, and now cry out: "Kill ObamaCare, "baby killer," "murderer," at politicians supporting Health Care, threaten them with violence and death, spit on and hurl the N-bomb at Black congresspersons, and subject others to homophobic slurs?
IT'S CONSERVATIVES who give political cover to and/or stirring up the very fear and hate that fuels right-wing racist terrorist groups like the Hutaree Militia, who were caught in the act of planning a "Civil War II" against our Union.
IT's NOT Liberals who showed up to anti-Bush rallies WITH GUNS or who threatened the Republcian Congress with death but IT WAS CONSERVATIVES WHO DID THAT TO OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS.
it WAS NOT the the "LEFT" or "liberals" that: (a) mobilized conservative gun-rights groups to march on Washington last April, (b) chose the date of this march to "coincidentally" coincide with the 15th anniversary of Timothy McVeigh and his right-wing conspirators' bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building, (c) nor carried out McVeigh's right-wing terrorist act, which Rabbi Ben Kamin noted also coincided with Hitler's birthday?
for more please see my article: "
Right-wing Vitriol, Threats, & Political Mental Health
http://open.salon.com/blog/ronrobinson/2011/01/15/right-wing_vitriol_threats_political_mental_heath_1
Great post and thank you. Wish more people would show this amount of passion and call conservatives out for their racism and bigotry. I'm so tired of people attemping political correctness when the conservatives don't even bother any more. Cain tickles their ears all the while making money off of their hatred and bigotry. I can't blame him for making a buck off of people's hatred.
Keep the donations for Cain up Republicans. Nothing like wasting campaign cash on someone who has no intention of becoming President of the United States of America . Cain wants to follow in Palin's footsteps. He wants to become a paid spokesmen. Someone making more than just $25,000 per appearance. He wants a job with Fox to tickle more conservative ears with what they want to hear. Above all he wants to give his family a good inheritance and to hell with the conservative movement. Glad conservatives don't see it as I do.
And the guy who responds hostilely to criticism about having missed the Civil Rights movement because he was following his father's advice to shut up and go to the back of the bus when told to -- not to mention who has said that other blacks who aren't rich like he is should blame themselves -- qualifies for Anna Molly's Irony Award of the Week.
President Obama showed us the way - he didn't respond to race baiting, and he didn't idetify himself strictly by race. He acted presidential from day one.
RBR, for more, "please see MY article?" Herman Cain is a self-made American success story. And he happens to be black. His statements on the racisim of the Democratic party are right on. Amy, that is some powerful Kool-aid!
Obama has always taken the high road. It is not about what is good for his wallet. It is about doing the right thing. I am enjoying his new combativeness. There is no longer any reason to try to compromise with people who refuse to consider any alternative other than that geared toward wealthy, greedy Americans.
God Bless America: When has President Obama responded to race-baiting?
The moment he went to the black caucus and called out all the black people to put on their marching boots and vote for him cause he is black like they are.....
More Democrat liberals ignoring reality!
I call them like I see them, and am waiting for the liberal spin for that one.....
'Apostle'?.......
..................gheeze
It's a shame Herman couldnt have been the first black president. The poverty lobby would have a much better example of how to succeed in America. Obama's portrayal that everyone is a victim of someone elses success is fostering another generation of welfare recipients. Now the Occupy Wall Street crowd wants their student loans forgiven because it's "not thier fault" they borrowed more money than thier degree will pay back. I wonder how much student loan debt was spent on beer, spring break, I-pods, cars etc. vs education. We desperatly need a better example for Americans in the White House.....
Crime has gone down in the African American community. Criminologists are calling it "the Obama effect." Young African Americans feeling they have more options in life. Heck, it may be said Obama opened the door for Herman Cain.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/10/criminologists-are-looking-obama-effect-explain-low-crime-rates/43381/
". We desperatly need a better example for Americans in the White House....."
Soooo.....when you gonna run one?
Ladies and Gentlemen, another vote for "Republicans Want To Keep You Dumb".
Interesting that "young African Americans feeling that they have more options in life." Herman Cain was a success story, raised by parents who did not permit him to make excuses. He did not hide behind his race. This is a much better example for all young people, then our current president provides.
GBA- can you give me an instace where our president has 'hidden behind his race'?
Drive-by-Observer: Ditto. I cannot think of a single instance where PResident Obama has responded to race-baiting or has hidden behind his race.
OK UAW...You have direct evidence that all these students are abusing their student loans now don't you? And why do you connie yellowstreaks continue to frame your arguments as class warfare when the middle class has been paying out the a$$ for corporate welfare for years? I don't know why I waste my time responding to posts like yours since attempting to teach ANYTHING to a conservative is like teaching fractions to a housecat!
God Bless America: Right...let's see how trying to convince Black Americans they'd be better off under a President Cain's far right agenda is going to work for him. Perhaps if we all drank that Kool Aid that slashing taxes for the richest 1% and hiking them three fold on the middle class is a GOOD thing...he'd have a chance. I dare say you are no authority on how President Obama is viewed outside your own narrow focus.
All right my friends, here is a perfect reason to ignore the nonsense of right wing clowns. Here is what UAW wrote: "Obama's portrayal that everyone is a victim of someone else's success is fostering another generation of welfare recipients."
You either live in a cave or a parallel universe if you have not heard President Obama repeatedly tell us that in no other country could he have achieved his incredible success. For Pete's sake, the man is the President of the United States. Now, that's a portrayal of success, not victimhood.
And then this blind as a bat right-winger writes: "We desperatly [sic] need a better example for Americans in the White House....." Yeah. he actually wrote that. It is virtually impossible to imagine a better example.
These right-wingers illustrate the need for a word that defines whatever is beyond insanity.
Torpedo, Get off the victim train. Obama's agenda was over whelmingly defeated in 2010. Do the math for some kid who says he's a $100k in debt for student loans. Have him show you the recipts for the education portion then deduct it from his total loans. Then tell him he'll need to work a little longer to pay back the beer and sun tan sessions....
Of course, in your world, it's impossible for kids to go to college and run up that much debt, right? How about these numbers from 2011-2012 alone?
Average Tuition, Fees & Room-and-Board* (2011-2012 Academic Year):
Public University, In-State Student: $17,131 (+6.0% from 2010-2011)
Public University, Out-Of-State Student: $29,657 (+5.2% from 2010-2011)
Private Non-Profit University: $38,589 (+4.4% from 2010-2011)
That was for one year. Now, multiply by four years. Now, maybe you decide to go for a Graduate Degree.
No, I'm sure all those kids bitching about student loans over $100K were just throwing keggers on the beach all the time, right?
Which race would he bait, or hide behind, the man is half white and half black, if people want to focus on his race then eveybody has a reason to be happy!
I really don't understand this guy - he seems to go in circles on every issue. He can't be serious. I've given up trying to figure him out. He's on a book tour.
He is on a book tour for a book that will be on the discount rack in a few months.
For a guy who is not concerned about race, he sure has said and written a hell of a lot about it.
Please read my article: "HERMAN 'BIGSBY' CAIN: BLACK WHITE SUPREMACIST" for more on the issue of Black White Supremacy exhibited by Claver and Cain. http://open.salon.com/blog/ronrobinson/2011/10/17/herman_bigsby_cain_black_white_supremacist
Dear Mr. Claver:
THOSE WERE RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE "CHRISTIANS" NOT LIBERALS WHO BOBMED BLACK CHURCHES AND BURNED BLACK BABIES ALIVE, LYNCHED BLACK MEN, PREVENTED BLACKS FROM VOTING, DRESSED UP IN KKK REGALIA AND BURNED CROSSES ON THE LAWNS OF BLACK FAMILIES, and now cry out: "Kill ObamaCare, "baby killer," "murderer," at politicians supporting Health Care, threaten them with violence and death, spit on and hurl the N-bomb at Black congresspersons, and subject others to homophobic slurs?
IT'S CONSERVATIVES who give political cover to and/or stirring up the very fear and hate that fuels right-wing racist terrorist groups like the Hutaree Militia, who were caught in the act of planning a "Civil War II" against our Union.
IT's NOT Liberals who showed up to anti-Bush rallies WITH GUNS or who threatened the Republcian Congress with death but IT WAS CONSERVATIVES WHO DID THAT TO OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS.
it WAS NOT the the "LEFT" or "liberals" that: (a) mobilized conservative gun-rights groups to march on Washington last April, (b) chose the date of this march to "coincidentally" coincide with the 15th anniversary of Timothy McVeigh and his right-wing conspirators' bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building, (c) nor carried out McVeigh's right-wing terrorist act, which Rabbi Ben Kamin noted also coincided with Hitler's birthday?
for more please see my article: "
Right-wing Vitriol, Threats, & Political Mental Health
http://open.salon.com/blog/ronrobinson/2011/01/15/right-wing_vitriol_threats_political_mental_heath_1
If the Democrat party itself did NOT use "race baiting" in order to keep the black vote.......guess what would happen?
Answer: Black Americans would WAKE UP and pay attention to the Republican policies. The GOP is promoting JOBS, NOT hand outs.
One would think that Black Americans are real tired of generational welfare. Herman Cain is NOT afraid to tell the truth.
Are people ready to LISTEN? Maybe not.
"If the Democrat party itself did NOT use "race baiting" in order to keep the black vote.."
Cite some examples, Leona- I'm being a bit dense again today.
Leona: Mr. Cain IS afraid to tell the truth. When people respond negatively to what he states, he responds that he's kidding.
Leona: Your post says it all. You want Blacks to "wake up" and suddenly become Republicans, who want to continue the Iraq war, hike taxes on the middle class, wipe out the social security hard working Americans have paid into all of their lives, prohbit women from privacy protections of the US Constitution, the ones with no jobs plan, no economic plan except give the rich more and maybe THIS time it'll work?? Who really is the one asleep if you expect that to happen?
AP, you need to calm down and not make lots of assumptions about what I want.
By "wake up", I meant try to listen to an opposing view. You don't have to become a Republican.
I DO NOT WANT TO CONTINUE THE IRAQ WAR. Did I say that? NO.
Your problem is that you only listen to the Democrat lies that have been fed to you and repeat them over and over.
Private sector tax payers, like myself, are funding all the govt. hand outs. What's going to happen when the money runs out?? ANSWER: Greece.
drive-by-observer,
You asked for a "race baiting" example. How about when the Tea Party had a rally and N.Pelosi and her fellow Dems said they were spit on as they walked by. That never happened. No one ever saw it and there were cameras there too.
That's just one example. Don't get me started or...
We could go back into the annals of Al Sharpton's history for many more examples. We don't have the time.
Ya know I've come to ignore your incessant BS - BUT I will NOT allow you to get away with this one!
Only in the land of right wing nuts & dolts can they REFUSE to see REALITY!
In case you missed it honey, Congressman Cleavor was SPAT upon @ .17 seconds into the video
Don't get me started or...
No sweetie pie - we don't want to get you started, we have all witnessed the consequences! lol
It never happened.
So says Leona with a blinfold on, her fingers in her ears while yelling; LALALALALALALALA!
I just can't stop laughing at Leona - "The GOP is promoting JOBS, NOT hand outs."
What job bills have come from the GOP???
Where did the FR village idiot go?
Leona - sweetheart, you can run but YOU can't hide babe!
Just saw her on another article, getting called out for being an idiot.
At least there is some consistency GF!
It's good to see you fighting the right fight - bluebird sister! ;o)
Can't help wondering how many Baby Mama's Claver has
Anyone know?
Teabaggers better watch what they wish for: he'll be turning on them next.
He'll become their nominee and then they'll all be pissed off because he made it. Cain will never beat Obama...period..
So in Tea Bagger Land apparently this is how history works...
The Conservative racist Right in the south,which started the KKK and Jim Crow and all the death,bigotry and ugliness which came to follow up and LEAVES the Democratic Party (they were,for the most part Dems up until then...) and goes,en masse,to the GOP after LBJ signs the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts into law (FYI Baggers,LBJ predicted that this was exactly what would happen by the way). Nixon and his racist,bigoted ass-clown hatchet man Pat Buchanan make this transformation a fait accompli with their "Southern Strategy" in 1967-68. But we're all supposed to pretend that racial history in this country stopped after 1964 and that it's a Democratic/Republican issue anyway. Wrong.
It's a Conservative/Liberal issue...the Cons were the Bull Connors of the world in the south and the Liberals were the Freedom Riders. And though there may have been some blurring of the lines by party identity then there are none now or have there been since 1968...the Cons are almost to a man in the GOP and everyone knows why. The vast majority of black voters in the south are Democrats,for the same reasons. And politicians have been playing this card in the South for years,go back to Reagans "States Rights" announcement of his intention to run for President in Mississippi. The people who responded to that "dog whistle" knew EXACTLY what they were responding to,the people who fashioned it (most likely Lee Atwater) knew EXACTLY who they were playing to when they fashioned that message.
Claver is an ignorant ass,period. If you want to align yourself with the very people who would have been the ones celebrating the church bombings and lynchings of the past had they lived then...well that's you right pal. Go right ahead and do so. But at least have the self-awareness to wear a handkerchief on your head when doing so.
By the by,just so I can get this straight because,again,I'm confounded by the 'Bagger Nation's approach to history and how it should be digested and discussed...
...so it's perfectly OK to dig up racial issues from 40 years ago (no matter how half-baked and idiotic your assertions) but the Dems are wildly out of bounds when the bring up the wreckage of the Bush Administrations economic policies from 3-8 years ago?
No wonder you idiots are under the impression the Lipton and Tetley are apparel companies.
GOP-
I guess that is why Reagan won Mississippi in a landslide..... TWICE! And, Ala, GA, FL, TN, KY, NC
And you attribute that to playing the race card. not the fact that he was a clear leader, a unifier not a divider, and a moderate conservative, and even though you all want to catagorize him as a mainstream republican, in actuality he was a republican outsider. His true beliefs were more in line with a conservative democrat.
It is a very good example of how far left the politics in this country have shifted over the last few decades.
This country is far more leftist today than it ever was in it's first 150 years.
WE need a good dose of solid conservative values, middle american values, not this leftist or rightist tripe we have been getting for the last ten elections or so....
Yes, we all saw how David Duke rallied the Democratic Party--oh, wait, he ran as a Republican. (for those of you unaware of who David Duke is, he's a fairly high official in the KKK).
We need anyone but Obama! Obama couldn't even leave the DOW at 7,949 where bush left it. Obama wants women to have freedom of choice so they can have their abortions. Obama wants to let the gays in the military to have the right to get married. Obama ended the Iraq war,we did have time to turn them into christians what was he thinking? We have no bases in Libya, so how will we force these people to follow the Christian faith? What we need is the GOP to spread the faith and control the world. GOP GOP GOP USA USA USA america! Its time we took america back.
TT,
Get off the "Christian" f'n rhetoric! You are just as guilty of causing division and divisive politics in this country as the Ultra liberalists and socialists!
Get a clue, there isn't room in this country ultra anything anymore, middle america, the majority, both democrat and republican and sick and tired of it!
Egilman,
Well as to your reply to my post,yeah,playing the race card sure as Hell helped Reagan in the South. Only a fool would think otherwise.
As to his being a "moderate Republican" well maybe today he would be (I think 'Bagger Nation would actually label him a Socialist seeing as he was to the Left of Obama on most economic policies...) but in the 80's he was straight up hardcore Right Wing Conservative when compared to the tenor of his times. Reagan Democrats crossed over on economic reasons,not for Reagan's stances on social issues. Don't kid yourself.
As to your response to Truthteller...wow you really ARE thick aren't you?
Just saying,lol.
@Truthteller,
Good one man,unfortunately the best sarcasm sometimes goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over the heads of those it's aimed at. See Egilman's response,lol.
Oh and by the way Egilman,I guess when Reagan came up with that narrative of the "welfare queens" buying lobster with their food stamps and driving their Cadillacs home that wasn't playing the race card,right?
Good grief.
I guess you folks haven't seenthe post of Cain's speech that "Jesus Christ Was the Perfect Conservative Done In By Liberal Theogians", It was posted on an MSNBC blog site-probaly the GRIO.
AnywayI I respoded to it on Facebook witha post ofmy own rebutting his shamefully bad theology. Did you know by the way,Caini s alicensed Minster and has beensince 2003? That little known fact was ona CNN blog yesterday. It's entitled "The Liberal Church of Herman Cain" which talks about the Baptist church Cain bleongs to. Among other things the curch denomination doesn't allow for ordination of women.
What interests me most about thisis that it raises separtiono f church and state issues. Cain has previouslysaid he would not appoint Muslims to office if elected. This raises the "There shall be no regilous test for public office in the United Stes or among the several state" in Article 3 Section 9 of the Constitution.
By saying this aloud-I say-and I worte on this in Facebook too-that as alicensed minister he raises doubts about imparitailty in conduct of office-and by saying that he woud not appoint people of a certain faith-there fore he is ipso facto unquified to be President because he cannot fulfill the Contitutional mandate required to"faithfully uphold" the US Constition.
And I say that he ought to be barred from participating in primaties because this. By any standard-theologicalor political hedoesn'tmeet the test of holding office.
And the qwuicker people intervene with court cases challenging his qualifactions the better.
Yeah that "Jesus was a Conservative" crap again,lol.
Whatever happened to that group of ass-clowns led by Phyllis Schafly's idiot son that wanted to produce a new Bible without all the "liberal spin" in it that the King James one has?
LMAO at these effing morons.