Shadowy flyers hit Cain on abortion

NBC's Carrie Dann

A flyer circulating outside an event with Herman Cain, hits him for his stance on abortion.

Despite having to walk back recent comments suggesting that women should be able to choose to have an abortion, Herman Cain appeared to get a fairly positive reception at a forum of social conservatives last night in Iowa. But attendees, who remained skeptical about Cain's efforts to repair the damage, got a reminder of that wariness before they even left the parking lot.

A flyer left on cars parked outside the event juxtaposed Cain's face and a grainy photo of a dead fetus and declared that the Godfather's Pizza CEO "threw the babies under the bus."

"If a pro-choice candidate doesn't have the Biblical foundation to know that murdering an innocent child is wrong in EVERY SINGLE CASE, how would that lack of a Biblical foundation influence his policy decisions on traditional marriage and family values?" the paper asks.

According to a note at the bottom of the flyers, the effort is paid for by an organization called Iowans for Some Semblance of Christian Decency in collaboration with Iowans for Truth and Honest Government -- both shadowy organizations apparently known exclusively for launching similar flyer attacks in the past.

The "decency" group was reportedly active in 2008 as well, questioning the faith of Mike Huckabee -- in the form of flyers slipped folio-style under doors in the Des Moines Marriott. The Iowa Republican Party asked for an investigation into the "truth" organization after it left flyers critical of now-Gov. Terry Branstad on windshields in 2009.

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The 'Hurricane' has been downgraded to a tropical depression...

Simply amazing that with all the adversities facing this country - this is still a priority with these religious fanatics!

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Reply#1 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:26 PM EDT

I don't know how all the Repub/TP folks can keep their score cards up to date. They better just use a pencil, not ink. Lots of missteps all around from these cast of characters...

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#1.1 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:41 PM EDT

It's not hard to believe. It's expected. Jesus said, 'If you cannot love your brother whom you have seen, how can you love God the Father, whom you have not seen'. In a nutshell, there is the Golden Rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Cain is openly a devout Christian, and it is expected of him by pro-life worshippers to represent their views. However, pro-life worshippers are not stupid, and understand that everybody in the Body does not believe exactly the same. They wish it would be so, though.

The President that we elect will have to defend the law of the land. I do not believe Cain, if elected, will selectively defend the law of the land, as does another President whom I will leave nameless.

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#1.2 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:58 PM EDT

It's amazing how dirty conservatives play, and even with each other.

Who, if anyone, has the real Christian values here?

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#1.3 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT

Well that's what he gets for putting Godfather's Pizza flyer's on their cars!

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#1.4 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT

Iowans for Some Semblance of Christian Decency in collaboration with Iowans for Truth and Honest Government -- both shadowy organizations apparently known exclusively for launching similar flyer attacks in the past.

So let's see, combined that would be Iowans for Some Semblance of Shadowy Extremism to overthrow Government--Period.

The majority of Americans support Roe v Wade and Hyde Amendment. They do not want abortion to be made illegal especially in cases of rape/incest. What we have here with the Teapublicans is a failure to represent the people.

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#1.5 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

You guys are too funny. The flyers were probably circulated by those folks who participated in the recent Godfathers Pizza taste test and decided to get even.

What I want to know is when they're going to get Some Semblance of Sanity.

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#1.6 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:54 PM EDT

Funny that a group the defines itself with the word 'decency' is running around placing shadowy fliers on cars, ha ha. And this group also hit Huckabee four years ago? Huckabee? The baptist minister... that Huckabee? Questioning his faith?

While seemingly avoiding the easier faith and abortion target known as Slick Willard? (Not saying either attack would be fair - but certainly easier.)

Hmmmm. Wonder who those guys might be supporting.

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#1.7 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:59 PM EDT

Sane people throw those flyer's away without even looking at them, all I'm thinking is they better not have screwed my windshield wipers up putting their crap on my car!

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#1.8 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:01 PM EDT

The flyers were probably circulated by those folks who participated in the recent Godfathers Pizza taste test and decided to get even

Do you mean this taste test Anna Molly? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X5tAXuY6QM&feature=player_detailpage

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#1.9 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

Paul -- I don't know about Huckabee's religious convictions either. Have you heard the lyrics to "Cat Scratch Fever" on the video of him jamming with Ted Nugent? And what about telling conservatives to slash the tires of liberal's cars on election day? A good Christian minister my arse.

But definitely it is a complete joke that these groups use words like "decency" "truth and honest" because they aren't even a "semblance" of these things.

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#1.10 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:41 PM EDT

LoL That's the one, Feisty. Thank you for posting.

Would you mind if I post it again tomorrow -- because it seems quite likely to come up. ;-)

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#1.11 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM EDT

Would you mind if I post it again tomorrow

Help yourself Anna Molly - the look on Karen Finney's (sp?) face is PRICELESS! ;o)

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#1.12 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:08 PM EDT

Ah, I didn't realize what all this was about. I thought Cain said something like he wouldn't back a constitutional amendment banning abortion. But he actually said he believes it is the mother's choice in cases of rape.

Well, that's the opening his opponents will use again and again, then.

But the funny thing is they'll do that trying to protect the establishment's candidate... Slick Willard, who once said:

“I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. My mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter. And you will not see me wavering on that.”

That of course was during his campaign for governor of Massachusetts. It was expedient then, just as his pro-life proclamations are now.

So this is the establishment candidate, and Cain is the anti-establishment one they will try to destroy with the abortion issue. You just can't write fiction like this - would be too unbelievable.

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#1.13 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:39 PM EDT
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Republicans/tea baggers absolutely detest the idea of an African-American as president of this country.

Cain hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell.

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Reply#2 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

You can't call him a snowball, that is racist!

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#2.1 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:45 PM EDT

No, Pancho, I don't think that's right. The tea partiers have been stung by the general impression by some they are racist. Cain answers that question, in their mind (as well as being seen as generally fiscally conservative, and thus acceptable, while Romney isn't).

The tea party is who is backing Cain. Their hopes of Bachmann not being crazy were dashed. Their hopes of Ron Paul being viable were dashed. Their hopes of getting Christie into the race were dashed. Now it's down to Cain.

It's the party establishment who isn't backing Cain. So we have the classic power struggle now within the GOP between establishment and one element of membership.

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#2.2 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT

So some of those tea party people had posters of Obama with a bone through his nose because of his fiscal policy?

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#2.3 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:28 PM EDT

Actually, Forrest, I don't see any Republican as racist. To be racist, you'd actually have to believe in something.

I see it as opportunistic opposition.

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#2.4 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:17 PM EDT
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There you go agin Feisty.  You do know that killing babies is murder right??? I know MSNBC signs your paycheck but lets try to keep it real.

 

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Reply#3 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:46 PM EDT

"killing babies is murder". Yep, but abortion is not. The problem the right wing Taliban has is that they can't suss out cell division from a real living child. Once they have a real, living child, they don't want to have supportive services in place.

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#3.1 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:18 PM EDT

Mitochondria Killer!

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#3.2 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT

Forrest; if you knew how often I sat here laughing helplessly at your posts....

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#3.3 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:45 PM EDT

Thank You New Day, I'm here to brighten every body's day if I can.

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#3.4 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:50 PM EDT

And you do it well, Forrest!

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#3.5 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:50 PM EDT
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No matter what your religion or ethics may be, the right to choose abortion services is up to the woman involved and her rights have been guaranteed by the Supreme Court. I don't get the continued attempts to make this right conformable to someone else's religious beliefs. The whole argument of when life begins has not been answered by scientists even for sure. The whole soul thing is strictly non-scientific anyway. Does it "come down" with 2 cells, 4 cells, 12, 24, 48, 96, 1200? What happened to all of those who were flushed out unknown with the monthly cycle? How many angels can dance on the pinhead?

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Reply#4 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:31 PM EDT

These anti- abortionists fanatics are pro-gun, pro death penalty. They don't support social services for poor children. Why are they so obsessed with fetuses when they don't care about people after their born. Why can't they leave women alone. They say they want government out of our lives but they want government to dictate what a woman can do with her body. They are hypocrites.

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Reply#5 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:06 PM EDT

"Why are they so obsessed with fetuses when they don't care about people after their born"

Do you actually read this crap you are writing? This lame cliche jumped the shark about 1975.

The liberals actually think the way you "care" about people is make them helpless government dependents at birth, through their entire lives.

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#5.1 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:24 PM EDT

Yes Bob all those "helpless government dependents" like cops, firefighters, teachers, street department workers, soldiers, elected politicians, ect, ect all helpless government dependents every last one of them.

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#5.2 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:40 PM EDT

Bob. there is not one elected/or wish to be elected TP/Republican that cares about a fetus that has been born.

Proof of the pudding is the wars they love. Over 4,500 borned babies dead. Want to wipe out food stamps. Oh, I know, why should you support anyone. Bring the jobs back into the United States and find out how fast the welfare rolls go down and taxes are paid into the treasury.

And, besides, regardless of what you and others may think, the Bible does not really bring up the abortion issue.

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#5.3 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:37 AM EDT
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just imagen all the job's the teabaggers will provide once they ban abortion, sorry just ignore me !I forgot once thier born it,s someone elses problem!!

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Reply#6 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:25 PM EDT

Mike, you are right with your assessment of the TP.

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#6.1 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:43 AM EDT
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LOL, the TPers have heart, every thing they believe in, is small government, whatever the rest of us believe is gargantuan massive govt. If doctors are in love with their women OB-GYM or something to that effect, it will be only a small govt,etc. So the GOPers are the chosen ones to tell us when their hypocrisy and both sides of their mouth is what they say is what they mean. Do you realize that the Heritage Foundation is the organization that suggested the health care mandate first, Romney and the Grinch bought into it and Romney actually implemented it in Mass. Grinch has been an avid advocate of it until President Barack Obama implemented it and all hell broke lose. That is the GOPers for you, they believe in nothing just expediency/selfishness.

    Reply#7 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:53 PM EDT
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