Perry describes 'long love affair with guns'

NBC's Carrie Dann

Iowa Rep. Steve King (left) and Texas Gov. Rick Perry (right), who is running for president, went pheasant hunting in Iowa Saturday.

MERRILL, Iowa -- Rick Perry often waxes eloquent about his wife Anita as the love of his life, but today in Iowa he disclosed to journalists another "long love affair" that has affected him since he was young.

With guns, that is.

"It was a long love affair with a boy and his gun, that turned into a man and his gun, that turned into a man and his son and his daugher and their guns," an orange-and-khaki-clad Perry said of his relationship with firearms before a pheasant hunting trip in northwestern Iowa.

Perry, who took questions from reporters before the shooting expedition with Iowa Rep. Steve King, called family hunting "part of America" and said that teaching children the safety and the mechanics of firearms is "one of the great American traditions."

The Texas governor also addressed yesterday's announcement by President Obama that all troops will be withdrawn from Iraq by 2011, repeating his accusation that the White House's decision was "a political statement" rather than smart military policy.

"This administration has signaled, telegraphed its intentions all too often and that's just not acceptable," he said.

But Perry declined to offer specifics about how many troops he thinks should remain in Iraq. "Putting a hard number on it without having sat down with the commanders and know what all the implications are for troops is not an appropriate thing to do," he said.

Asked about a testy exchange with Mitt Romney on the issue of illegal immigration during last week's debate, Perry repeated his assertion that Romney was a part of the nation's illegal immigration problem when undocumented individuals worked on his property.

"Mitt stands back and makes statements about criticizing Texas for how they've had to deal with an issue," he said, "[when] the federal government and people like himself are the problem."

Perry next heads to a campaign event in eastern Iowa and then on to a forum in Des Moines, with a busy schedule that means he won't have a chance to see his beloved home team play Iowa State University today.

And he was quick to say who he's rooting for.

"I'm for the Aggies. I don't get confused about who I'm for," he declared to reporters. "I'm not going to be one of those people who roll into Iowa and say, 'Oh I'm for the Cyclones, because I'm runnin' for office. People see through that pretty good."

*** UPDATE *** Andrea Saul, spokesperson for Romney, passes on this response: 

"Rick Perry is a desperate candidate resorting to negative personal attacks because his campaign is collapsing. If anyone has an illegal immigration problem, it’s Rick Perry. In Texas, the illegal immigration population is up 60%  over the past decade, far surpassing California and Florida, and 40% of new jobs have gone to illegal immigrants in the past three years.  While Rick Perry thinks a border fence is 'idiocy' and that people that don't support in-state tuition for illegal immigrants 'don't have a heart,' Mitt Romney supports a border fence and vetoed an in-state tuition bill as governor.”

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That's a bit scary. A 'love affair' with guns? Sorry, but the time in my life when I was around the most weapons, in the Marines, I don't remember anyone who viewed them as anything other than tools (and one more thing we had to clean). I actually am sympathetic to the gun rights crowd. I think some of them take it too far, though. But when people start talking about love for their guns, well, I think that's someone who just isn't right in the head.

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#1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:10 PM EDT

That's because, like most people who live here, you make the mistake that this little tiny section of the country, (from D.C. To Boston), comprises the totality of thinking in the country. Throw in Chicago, LA, San Francisco and Seattle, and you have the entirety of out of touch, elitist thinking.

We are the minority.

Look, I don't like guns. I do not, nor ever will, own one. Moreover, when my son was growing up, one of the questions I asked before he went on play dates was "is there a gun in the house?". If the answer was yes, they played at my house.

I know, however, that I am the one in the minority. I also know, because there are so many cops in my family, that gun safety is essential education for all children, because we cannot keep them totally away from them. It's no different than substance education, or sex education.

People who live in the rest of the country hunt. They target shoot. And, yes, they love their guns, the same way some other people love their sports cars- another inanimate object that, if misused, can inflict deadly injury on the user or others.

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#1.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:20 PM EDT

(Paul) That's a bit scary. A 'love affair' with guns?

* * *

Paul, it's not scary if you grew up with guns -- if your Dad and Uncles had guns -- if you started hunting when you were 10 -- if you are from rural America. Nothing "scary" about it.

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#1.2 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

Actually just the metropolitan population of the top 60 largest
cities accounts for nearly 50% of the total US population. If you expand that
to the top 100 (average of 2 per State) it is over 60% of the US population
that live in high density areas of the country. While rural America is much
different that urban America rural America does not represent the majority.

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#1.3 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:44 PM EDT

Paul, it's not scary if you grew up with guns -- if your Dad and Uncles had guns -- if you started hunting when you were 10 -- if you are from rural America. Nothing "scary" about it.

I think you missed the point..."love affair" is going a bit overboard, don't you think?

Certainly, you are entitled to ENJOY hunting or target shooting but LOVE it? Personally, I was taught that you never really LOVE anything that can't LOVE you back.

Love your kids. Love your family. Enjoy shooting.

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#1.4 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:52 PM EDT

lol

My Rifle: The Creed of a United States Marine." Every Marine must memorize this creed. And, every Marine must live by the creed.

This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than the enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. My rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, or the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit.

My rifle is human, even as I am human, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other.

Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.

So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy.

Source(s):

ArmySFC

Sounds to me like the Marines are teaching a Love Affair with your Rifle

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#1.5 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:49 PM EDT

Sounds to me like the Marines are teaching a Love Affair with your Rifle

Big difference...

The Marine loses his rifle and he's dead.

The hunter loses his rifle and that 10-pointer goes running off into the woods.

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#1.6 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

Da Noid,

Thanks for Agreeing with me that Paul is Full of SH*t, that he wasn't taught to have a Love Affair with his Rifle.

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#1.7 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:08 PM EDT

@steve--ok, I'm pretty familiar with the Rifle Creed. Every Marine is a rifleman no matter their mos, although I'm not sure of the Marine Band in Washington. Do they have to qualify? Anyway, there are those who might accuse me of having a weapon or two around the house but they don't know and I"m not saying. Some might even argue I might have a handgun under my truck seat. They don't know and I'm not saying. For me, a firearem of any kind is just like any other tool. Hammer, saw, whatever and do have lots of those. Point is, for me, I don't need a firearm to feel macho mano. Screw you Perry, you don't have domain over me, firearm or no firearm.

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#1.8 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:18 PM EDT

Uh...you said he's full of s***, not me.

I'm just merely pointing out the difference between a Marine and a hunter.

...and even the creed does not say the Marine loves his rifle.

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#1.9 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

Paul,

I think "stevie" is going to be giving you a Code Red!

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#1.10 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:38 PM EDT

Paul, you're right, this guy isn't all there, glad he's being exposed now.

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#1.11 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:12 PM EDT

Steveiam - we're taught to say goodnight to Chesty Puller, too. Thing is, we all sorta know Chesty isn't around to hear it. We're also taught sentry general orders, yet I don't recall anyone expressing a love affair with standing guard.

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#1.12 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:26 PM EDT

Was it a gay affair?

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#1.13 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

Greg - I grew up in Pittsburgh (you know, deer hunter country). I didn't say guns were scary. I said someone who professes a long love affair with guns is a little scary.

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#1.14 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

I was in love with guns too . . . when I was a little kid!

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#1.15 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:41 PM EDT

Much ado about nothing. Some men do love their rifles, pistols and shotguns. If you are an avid shooter or hunter, you do love your guns. Just like an avid golfer loves his clubs... and an avid pool shooter loves his cues. They all have their place.

Where the problem lies.... is in anyone that takes the concept to the extreme, or someone that wants to use something against a politician. Who cares if he loves his guns? Lots of men do... and even some women do too. Big freekin deal!

  • 7 votes
#1.16 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:43 PM EDT

May they be very happy together.

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#1.17 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:52 PM EDT

Rick Perry is having a love affair with himself. The reason he can't speak in the debates is because he can see himself in the monitor. This causes him to suck in the beer belly, blink a number of times, stroke his hair... and by then he forgot what he was saying. watch him... it's true!

No big deal on the guns. I wouldn't expect anything else from Perry.

His foreign affairs comments are pretty funny, though. At this rate he'll be an "also ran" by the end of November (or sooner).

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#1.18 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:44 PM EDT
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Perhaps Gov. Perry doesn't realize that the Commander in Chief HAS sat down with the commanders and knows what the implication for the troops is. On another matter, Gov. Perry is correct that Gov. Romney's situation with regard to the "illegals" working on his property is why we have a problem. 1) Gov. Romney did not report the company to authorities, and he apparently didn't tell them that he WOULD report them if a second violation were found. 2) There is plainly a need for the kind of manual labor that is performed by so many people here without documents...witness the tomato farmers in Alabama who can't find Americans willing and able to take care of the tomatoes, and witness the lawn care company the Romneys hired.... As far as a "love affair" with guns -- some people like guns, others like archery and target shooting. Guns used for sport are not automatic AK 47 assault rifles and if someone like Gov. Perry could say as much, he would do everyone a great service.

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Reply#2 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:14 PM EDT

Um, no, Kate. See, the commanders did recommend that we leave between 3000 and 5000 troops in country, to train and facilitate.

Obama blew the negotiations. See, he has a hard time negotiating anything more difficult than a burger order. So, Maliki said "out!"- and Obama had no choice. He did not pull our troops out- they were ordered out.

Yet another epic fail from the master. . .

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#2.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:24 PM EDT

In, I believe 2008, President Bush had an agreement with the Iraqi government that all of our military personnel would be out by the end of 2011. President Obama tried to convince the Iraqi government that we needed to keep a few thousand troops past the end of this year. Iraq agreed providing the U.S. would sign a 'SOFA' agreement allowing military personnel to be tried in Iraqi courts, no immunity from Iraqi prosecution. The American military commanders would not sign off on that, so the 2008 agreement signed by Bush is the reason we have to leave Iraq by the end of this year.

Obama really did nothing except to comply with the agreement put in place by President Bush. Give credit to Bush, if you want to credit Obama with anything it was he could not accomplish another agreement with the Iraqi government.

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#2.2 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:35 PM EDT

See, the commanders did recommend that we leave between 3000 and 5000 troops in country, to train and facilitate.

The bottom line is that President Obama is Commander-In-Chief. If he says full withdrawal then that's it. If the generals don't like it they can follow their orders.

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#2.3 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:54 PM EDT

Da Noid,

Are you really that dense, or is it just your left wing mentality that gets in your way. President Obama did not say full withdrawal by the end of 2011, President Bush did and the Iraqi government did. Obama is just following Bush's orders. If Obama had his way he would comply with the generals request to leave a few thousand troops in Iraq, it was the Iraqi government that said NO to Obama's request. Get your facts straight before spouting your left wing BS.

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#2.4 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:14 PM EDT

Yes, I really am that dense.

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#2.5 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:26 PM EDT

yes.. I agree with your post of 2.5 Da Noid

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#2.6 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

Now, Kate don't go trying to confuse the Governor with facts since the thinking has been done for him. Can't have his head explode, it just won't do.

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#2.7 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:22 PM EDT
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creepy. this man has issues.

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Reply#3 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:40 PM EDT

It's very creepy. He's got issues, Michele has issues and Romney? That guy creeps me out totally. Then there's Herman Cain...........glad I'm not a Republican.

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#3.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:58 PM EDT

No kidding he has issues--and this is the guy some people want to be the leader of the "free" world and have his hand on the nuclear trigger? Scary Perry indeed....

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

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#3.2 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:30 AM EDT

nurse,

Well, they put George Bush in there, right?

"Is 'blood-sucking scum one word or three?' " Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau (today)

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#3.3 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:38 PM EDT

Imatt: I read that in today's Doonesbury. Loved it !

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#3.4 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:23 AM EDT

Hi, Nan,

Did you see Baldo a few Sundays ago? Guest artist and the strip had the phrases "few screws loose" and "guess that's what's wrong with the White House"? Something to that effect.

I went on Facebook to voice my ire and, man, it was like stand in line, I was late for the party.

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#3.5 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:38 PM EDT
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As a vet (69-72) I really liked my rifle but did not love it and was never sorry to give it up and I grew up in a small town (900) people so we used guns alot to hunt but a gun is a tool and to say ( I love my guns) is some what disturbing from a nut case like PERRY!

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Reply#4 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:43 PM EDT

no joe, no bo;

I agree with you on one thing and that is guns. The only thing guns are for are for hurting and killing. What other purpose is there?? If you say to defend yourself, but in the end if you are confronted by someone either some one is hurt or killed. If you say my gun is bigger or better then your, will how big or better do they have to get??

However, I disagree with you on Iraq. It was either we keep more troops in Iraq, in harms way or we bring them ALL home, so NO MORE AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE KILLED THERE.

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Reply#5 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:47 PM EDT

What other purpose is there? Well, apparently no joe and Rick Perry have some ways of gittin' some good lovin'....

...as Freud rolls over in his grave...

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#5.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:28 PM EDT

As usual nojo puts her own twisted anti Obama spin on what actually happened.

The agreement was made by the Bush administration, and the President was following along with the plan, which originally stated we would keep 3-5 thousand troops there for training purposes and security, they would eventually be phased out over time. However the IRAQ government would not agree to provide them with an assurance they would reasonably be safe, so to ensure that our troops would not be subjected to harm, President Obama decided to bring them home by the holidays. There are still some troops there to protect the enormous embassy the Bush administration built, these, however will be under diplomatic protection.

Now while that doesn't make as good a complaint against the President as nojo tried to spin, it is the truth.

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#5.2 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:28 PM EDT

"he decided to bring them home" really? All he did was follow a plan of someone else. For once.

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#5.3 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:07 PM EDT

Well, holy shnikes, if he's just following someone else's plan in bringing home troops from Iraq then there's no reason for Republicans to be getting their panties in a twist, now, is there?

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#5.4 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

Please don't make me go back through the article that was on FR that basically made it seem like Obama pulled them out all on his own, and then resulting pom-pom waving threads from the left-regulars and pull out quotes.

Point of fact: I go commando.

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#5.5 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:19 PM EDT

...but, gee, it seems that the Republican candidates are upset that troops are being withdrawn and they're blaming the President but you're telling us that the decision was really made by someone else. Which is it? I mean, you can't have it both ways, can you?

Point of fact: I go commando.

Well played!

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#5.6 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:24 PM EDT

I'm not a Republican candidate. Their reasoning is obvious and dumb. We should have been out a long time ago.

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#5.7 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:35 PM EDT

As usual nojo puts her own twisted anti Obama spin on what actually happened.

Have you seen her latest delusion?

She's spinning away attempting to take the credit for 'breaking' the Fiskar story! lmao

*See below*

Guess we can now add investigative reporter to her long bogus resume...

Poor dear really is a legend in her own mind...

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#5.8 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:23 PM EDT
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Funny about that "family hunting"... it seems the NRA has to have programs to get people to hunt these days... many new families just don't.... yea well..... another "almost truth" from Perry....

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Reply#6 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:55 PM EDT

I got the best security system ever! When we go away on trips I lay in a sprawl on the driveway and Mrs. Grump traces me with chalk, then we string some yellow crepe paper around, and I'll tell you nobody ever messes with my house when I'm gone. It beats the heck out of an alarm company sticker on the window.

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Reply#7 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:55 PM EDT

That Perry is hooked on guns is certainly no surprise. He has that kind of personality. Obama discussed a modification of the agreement Bush made with Iraq. Iraq said no, so the troops are coming home. That`s Obama`s job and he did what was required of him. But that seems to be somethinng Republicans don`t understand. Or prefer not to.

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Reply#8 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:16 PM EDT

He has that kind of personality.

Please tell me you didn't just accuse him of having a personality.

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#8.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:38 PM EDT

Obama discussed a modification of the agreement Bush made with Iraq. Iraq said no, so the troops are coming home. That`s Obama`s job and he did what was required of him. But that seems to be somethinng Republicans don`t understand. Or prefer not to.

That must be part of the "American Exceptionalism" manifesto.

"To hell with what Iraq wants! If we want to keep troops in their country then, damn it, we're going to keep troops there!"

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#8.2 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:38 PM EDT

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    #8.3 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:01 PM EDT

    You miss the entire point, noid. . .

    Suppose you went to a bar for a drink after work- but promised your spouse you'd be home by seven. . .

    Suppose you had three drinks in rapid succession, picked a fight, and got thrown out of said bar. . .

    At six thirty.

    You got home by seven, okay. You could even say you left when the trouble started. . .

    But, come on, really- how do you take credit?

    • 4 votes
    #8.4 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:12 PM EDT
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    Helpless wussy Liberals, by contrast, love and worship Nanny State government. It is their binky.

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    Reply#9 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

    It is Perry with his love gun binky.

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    #9.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:18 PM EDT
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    Know what's funny? We get this story-

    But not this story

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/189067-defections-by-senate-dems-hamper-obamas-message-on-jobs

    Ten democrats vote FOR the republican alternative to Obama's boondoggle-10- including BOTH of Minnesota's senators- and no mention on this site.

    Unbelievable.

    Maybe this comes under the heading of a "scandal" with which they do not dirty their hands.

    Maybe it comes under the heading of "justice", with which they are unfamiliar.

    To my mind, it comes under the heading of "Obama fail"- with which they will not deal.

    I guess we will not even get a report on the election results next year- never mind coverage of the inauguration. . .

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    Reply#10 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:35 PM EDT

    Sure, NOJO, we might not get the scoop on Obama's inability to get the dems in line, BUT

    we are totally up to date and fully informed about Michelle Obama's tweet skills.

    Makes you wonder - how awesome do you have to be to be a First Read reporter?

    Now, me I glad we are leaving Iraq. But the libbies are playing like it was Obama's call. The Iraqi's are literally kicking us out.

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    #10.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:46 PM EDT

    Maybe those 10 Democrats aren't as afraid of putting the Republican alternative to a full vote as the 47 Republicans are of putting the Democrats' proposal to a full vote?

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    #10.2 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:52 PM EDT

    ...and, by the way, MSNBC did cover this...

    www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44984083/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

    Immediately after the vote on Obama's plan, Democrats turned the tables and filibustered Republican-backed legislation that would prevent the government from withholding 3 percent of payments to government contractors. The legislation failed to get the 60 votes needed to end the filibuster on a 57-43 vote, even though 10 Democrats voted to advance it.

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    #10.3 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:01 PM EDT

    Well, noid, see, I was talking about THIS site. First Read. Supposed to be the number one spot for political coverage.

    Seems to be the number one spot for puff pieces on the Obama's, "negatory" stories about the republicans- and not much else.

    Jody was right.

    Hey, Spanky- since I broke the Fisker story that ABC is, (finally!), focused on-

    How, exactly, do I go about getting nominated for a Pulitzer?

    My third grade English teacher would be just so proud. . .

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    #10.4 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:08 PM EDT

    Hey, Spanky- since I broke the Fisker story that ABC is, (finally!), focused on-

    YOU broke the story?

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    #10.5 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:18 PM EDT

    Spanky nice call on the Iraqi's kicking us out per the SOFA that bush signed. One news report that I read recently made it sound like obama was a little miffed about the iraqis attitude on withdrawal. Oh well, obama still has us in afganistan, libya, yemen and uganda, that should make obama and company happy.

    I wonder what leader is next in obamas crosshars for taking out by assassination?

    I recall the New yorker magazine having a satirical cover of obama and michelle back on july 21, 2008. The approach obama and company is currently taking makes me wonder if other than the clothes worn and the portrait on the wall, if the New Yorker magazine was actually fortelling our futre under obama nd company.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25673296/

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    #10.6 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:55 PM EDT

    Yup, I did, noid.

    I was surfing around looking for stimulus stories, and found that little goodie. Reported it right here, in fact.

    Dbo thought I was talking about scissors- that company is spelled with an 'a', rather than an' 'e'- and thought it would be a good idea to rib me for not knowing what I was talking about.

    Ahem.

    So, yes, you heard it here first. Fisker Automobiles- $529 million-500 jobs IN FINLAND- oh, and Doerr, the major Obama big buck donor who happens to be heavily invested in the company.

    This Dollars for Donors stimulus package sure is doing wonders for the economy, is it not? Well, now you know why Obama needs another honeypot- there is another campaign afoot, and these folks are accustomed to getting back tenfold their "investments".

    I wonder if they read the polls?

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    #10.7 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

    Here ya go, noid

    Read and learn

    http://green.autoblog.com/2009/09/22/breaking-fisker-gets-528-7-million-loan-from-u-s-doe-for-karm/

    $528 million in loans from U.S. Taxpayers, in the HOPE they will become profitable, for cars made in FINLAND.

    You think you're too clever for words, because a scissors company has a similar name?

    Try reading something informative, rather than Obama rah rah blogs. You might be amazed at what you learn.

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    #6.7 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:19 PM EDT

    It was the third comment I made on the topic. Came as quite a surprise to some of the 'regulars'.

    Hey- ya think maybe ABC reads this blog- and decided to follow the money?

    That would be really, really cool.

    It's a lead pipe cinch nobody on this site would do. It- this is, after all Team Obama. They're leaning so far forward, their heads are all in the sand. . .

    • 3 votes
    #10.8 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:31 PM EDT

    So, what you're saying is, no, you did not break the story. Thanks for clarifying.

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    #10.9 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:34 PM EDT

    Actually, noid- look at the date. See, that was the third comment I made on that thread. Go back and read all the comments. There's a lot more.

    I broke the story- and somehow, it got picked up a couple weeks later.

    Woo Hoo!

    Maybe I have a new career ahead of me as an investigative reporter.

    I'll give you the secret to my "success"- I actually began researching Doerr- and, in his bio, found a reference to his interest in Fisker. Then, I started researching Fisker- and, son of a gun, if they did not just so happen to get over half a billion taxpayer dollars.

    From the stimulus.

    To create "green jobs".

    Again, we have the issue of what one infers from Obama's statements. Do you really thinks when he talks about creating jobs, we're supposed to infer that they will be created in other countries?

    Well, we are, as it turns out. More often than not, as a matter of fact.

    Ah, well, you go on ahead and vote for nine percent plus unemployment, stagnant or shrinking GDP, an energy policy written by crooks and liars, and a foreign policy that seems to have been conceived by a backward nine year old.

    The majority of the country has had quite enough "hope". We're looking for a change. ..

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    #10.10 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:21 PM EDT

    Okay, perhaps I'm dumber than usual here today, but, how on earth am I supposed to look at any of this and give you any kind of credit for being some master investigative reporter?

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    #10.11 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:40 PM EDT

    Putting aside all of our mental abilities here today Noid [come on, it's Saturday] the only question we should be asking is:

    How will each of us be able to do our part - to support Obama's green dreams and investments - by purchasing a fine Fisker Karma of our very own?

    You got a spare $97K laying around Noid?

    Noid, why is all this money going to a company that produces a car that only the 1%-ers can buy?

    Could it be because Obama and Chu are 1%-ers?

    Shoot, no way I'm blowing that kind of bank on a car. But the good news is Turner's is having a sale on Barretta 92fs. I may not love my guns, but at least I can afford them. And at no peril to the US taxpayer.

    Cool right?

    • 4 votes
    #10.12 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:15 PM EDT

    Spanky,

    Do you know what "Project Nina" is? Surely, the great investigative journalist "no joe" knows what it is, right?

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    #10.13 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT
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    LOL

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    Reply#11 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:46 PM EDT

    I can't believe I am calling Scary Perry "clever" - but I wonder if he said this to conjure up those absurd statements that Mitt made back in the 2008 election about "shooting varmints?!" Remember how Mitt had to painfully clarify his "hunting stories" to say that his targets were rabbits and rodents - and other varmints?

    As a woman, it is not appealing to me in the least for a man to say he has a "love affair with guns!" It is creepy!

    • 6 votes
    Reply#12 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

    So what's next Rick --- a prayer in school amendment, a flag burning amendment or a no gay marriage amendment?

    • 5 votes
    Reply#13 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

    I'm not saying (or care) if perry is homosexual or bi at this point....but it is obvious he would never be a graduate of bachmanns pray the gay away school...

    • 2 votes
    #13.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:53 PM EDT
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    'Good Lord willing, we will all live long enough to witness Barack Obama's second term come to a close in peace, with full employment, and Corporations 'shrunk' to manageable size, the wealthiest among us paying their fair share of taxes, the Supreme Court returned to sanity (having impeached Roberts , Alito, and Thomas ,the crook). Then we can go about speaking in glowing terms of "the greatest, most effective President of our time".

    • 3 votes
    Reply#14 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:27 PM EDT

    mike - quite an agenda you have there. Wouldn't it have been simpler to just wish that santa would bring you a nice new red ryder BB gun so you can shoot your eye out?

    • 3 votes
    #14.1 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:37 PM EDT

    When Perry says "He's had along love affair with guns" does he mean any gun in particular? Is there one that he found more sexy? or more pleasurable? Or does he just get aroused at the thought of guns?

    I think I would have to say that he isn't sounding very presidential. But that's okay, he doesn't have a chance anyway, so who cares?

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 5 votes
    #14.2 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:43 PM EDT

    Mike-2734129: "the greatest, most effective President (Obama) of our time".

    Haha. Someone should tell Jimmy Carter this news because as of 2011, he's been out celebrating the fact that he's no longer the WORST President in history.

    ABO.

    • 4 votes
    #14.3 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:44 PM EDT

    Thanks for the chuckle leona, I can just see carters big ol teeth just beeming out from his smile!

    • 5 votes
    #14.4 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:58 PM EDT

    1. Carter and Obama share similar approval rating at this time in their respective presidencies.

    2. As to Tom's question - I highly recommend a lovely little film titled Nuns With Guns.

    In fact, me and Ms. Spanky are using it as the theme of our Holloween costumes this year.

    • 4 votes
    #14.5 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:18 PM EDT

    Carter wasn't a good president but he is a hell of a lot smarter than the current crop of gop goobers.

    • 8 votes
    #14.6 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:31 PM EDT

    You got it Leona --- Carter is not the worst president in history. We agree on that. George W. Bush wins the worst president in history award hands down. No other former president, not even Andres Johnson, is even close.

    • 5 votes
    #14.7 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:15 AM EDT

    Charlie, I have to assume you get your "facts" from Chuck Todd and Chris Matthews! lol

    Who can forget the words of Chris Matthews on the subject of Obama....." I get a thrill up my leg." LOL

    • 1 vote
    #14.8 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:47 AM EDT

    "Charlie, I have to assume you get your "facts" from Chuck Todd and Chris Matthews!"

    Well -- like a typical Fox/dittohead -- your assumption is wrong. Try reading American hsitory -- real American history -- not the garbage Palin and Bachmann put out. The reality is no president since Kennedy had the keys to the White House turned over to him from the former president with the nation in BETTER shape than did George W. Bush and no president since FDR had the keys to the White House turned over to him from the former president with the nation in WORSE than did President Obama. It will take this nation a generation or longer to dig ourselves out of the economic disaster caused by George W. Bush and his Republican controlled Congress.

    • 2 votes
    #14.9 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:50 PM EDT

    oh charlie, if it was only so simple. I don't really know the history books you get your info from, but I do know that global events do more to shape economic and political history than whatever you profess to know. Regardless, past presidents always found a way to work with congress, that is up until obama.

    As for carter, the seventies were one of turmoil and uncertainty, from gas prices to the soviets to tricky dick to ford and then moving unto carter. For me as well as others that decade was one of malaise that permiated our society. Right now I sense that same type of malaise setting in that obama refuses to see or even address, but unlike the 70's we have a growing global marketplace to take into account as well.

    It is indeed a sad state of affairs when obama professed "hope and change" to get elected but yet showed his ineptitude in moving forward in even a small way to resolve our economic issues. To bad he refused to bring the minority congressional leaders on board in early 2009 by waiting until mid 2010. His current blame rhetoric isn't helping him show off his potuas skills either.

    • 1 vote
    #14.10 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:02 PM EDT

    Obama's "Hope & Change" really meant ...

    he "HOPES" all the bail outs & hand outs destroy our economy &

    he'll "CHANGE" Capitalism to Socialism.

      #14.11 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:51 AM EDT
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      George MolDeleted

      I really cannot believe that Perry has ever "waxed eloquent" on any topic.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#17 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:50 PM EDT

      As a gun lover, I wonder why he keeps shooting himself in the foot? I swear he looks like a deer in the headlights!

      • 3 votes
      Reply#18 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:19 PM EDT

      Like most over the top religious people he talks with much hyperbole, comes with the territory.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#19 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:29 AM EDT

      There are those in Texas who group guns, Nascar, BBQ, HS football, anti-Obama, the Confederate flag,and Perry into one big love affair.. Don't mess with Texas ! SAD !

      • 2 votes
      Reply#20 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:48 AM EDT

      Perry doesn't seem to be happy unless he kills something.... Maybe Perry and Cheney could go hunting together! I wonder why Perry hasn't yet raised his gun(s) toward heaven and told God to make it rain in Texas or else - isn't he the proud, almighty, supreme being from Northeastern Mexico! Vote Perry - a dead animal in every pot and a gun in every garage....

      • 3 votes
      Reply#21 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:27 AM EDT

      Nostracomas,

      I guess you are saying the same thing about Democrats who hunt?

      There are quite a few.

      • 1 vote
      #21.1 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT

      Hi, LEONA,

      I heard it through the grapevine that you were a Bachmann supporter. Guess you're really just a Republican supporter, right?

      • 1 vote
      #21.2 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT

      Imatthebeach,

      You "hear through the grapevine" that I am a Bachmann supporter? From who? You do not know anyone who knows me. LOL

      If you are asking if I will vote Republican for 2012, the answer is YES.

      I care about the future of the country (have you heard that Greece is having riots?) and want an answer to 9.1% unemployment and $15 trillion debt .

      Democrats are FAILURES at the economy!

        #21.3 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:58 AM EDT
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        Anyone for a Perry-Cheney hunting trip?

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        Reply#22 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:23 AM EDT

        Count me in, as long as I get to watch through a scope from a safe distance. I'd be hoping they'd both pull the trigger at the same time.

        Of course, Cheney may be a little slow on the draw these days, what with having no heart (literally) and having to carry a little machine around to stay alive.

        Am I the only one who never heard of that miraculous device until Cheney got one?

        • 2 votes
        #22.1 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT
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        " 'Oh I'm for the Cyclones, because I'm runnin' for office. People see through that pretty good."

        Now is it clear why Perry's handlers cringe when he gets in front of the public?

        • 1 vote
        Reply#23 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:32 PM EDT

        Any male that 'Loves' guns have doubts about their masculinity.

        To have a 'love affair with guns' indicates either he sucks on the barrel or sticks the barrels up his rectum. Some form of sexual activity alwaays occurs in love affairs.

        Do not shake this persons hands unless you can wash and disinfect them immediately afterwards.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#24 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT

        rogerbeard, I know. That's why I asked (above) if it was a gay affair. Curious minds want to know.

        • 1 vote
        #24.1 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT
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        Wonder what the missus thinks about this?

        She has probably learned that if he has gunpowder smell on his mouth not to kiss him.

        If he doesn,t she will be really worried.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#25 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT

        peabrain must love fires too after burning down the Guv Mansion in Austin he has been living in rental mansion at a very high cost to taxpayers. Or maybe that is what he used the Rainy-Day Fund of 9 Billion dollars on. The laying off from work of all the police-officers, teachers, and firemen in Texas even though there was this Rainy-Day Fund!

        Wonder if that is the reason for it not raining in Tejas?

        • 2 votes
        Reply#26 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

        I'm from a very close, loving family. We didn't hunt. I know other families growing up who did. What's the point here?

        So Perry has a long love affair with guns. Are we sure that's not a typo and it was supposed to read "guys". Those stories have been around much longer than he has been in presidential politics. I've no idea if they're true. I'd have more respect for him, assuming it to be the case, if he admitted that instead of this fluff.

          Reply#27 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT
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