An embellishment and potential blemish

Freshman GOP Sen. Marco Rubio -- a rising star in the Republican Party -- has often invoked the story about his parents fleeing the Castro regime in Cuba.

But an investigative piece in the Washington Post notes that Rubio's parents came to the United States (and gained residency here) more than 2 1/2 years before Castro came to power in Cuba.

[A] review of documents - including naturalization papers and other official records - reveals that Rubio's dramatic account of his family saga embellishes the facts. The documents show that Rubio's parents came to the United States and were admitted for permanent residence more than 2½ years before Castro's forces overthrew the Cuban government and took power on New Year's Day 1959.

The Post adds:

Rubio’s office on Thursday confirmed that his parents arrived in the United States in 1956 but noted that “while they were prepared to live here permanently, they always held out the hope and the option of returning to Cuba if things improved.” They returned to Cuba several times after Castro came to power to “assess the situation with the hope of eventually moving back,” the office said in a statement.

Here are two TV ads (here and here) that Rubio aired during his 2010 Senate run highlighting that he was the son of exiles.

*** UPDATE *** Rubio has released this statement:

“To suggest my family’s story is embellished for political gain is outrageous. The dates I have given regarding my family’s history have always been based on my parents’ recollections of events that occurred over 55 years ago and which were relayed to me by them more than two decades after they happened. I was not made aware of the exact dates until very recently.

“What’s important is that the essential facts of my family’s story are completely accurate. My parents are from Cuba. After arriving in the United States, they had always hoped to one day return to Cuba if things improved and traveled there several times. In 1961, my mother and older siblings did in fact return to Cuba while my father stayed behind wrapping up the family’s matters in the U.S. After just a few weeks living there, she fully realized the true nature of the direction Castro was taking Cuba and returned to the United States one month later, never to return.

“They were exiled from the home country they tried to return to because they did not want to live under communism. That is an undisputed fact and to suggest otherwise is outrageous.”  

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As future political aspirations get flushed, the Cabbage Patch just keeps growing.

  • 37 votes
#1 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:04 PM EDT

You mean he was LYING?

Why I'm shocked I tell you... positively shocked...

The tea baggers swallowed his BS - hook line & sinker...

I still want to see Marco's birth certificate! lol

  • 77 votes
#1.1 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:08 PM EDT

Typical lying TeaPublican!

...and you're right Feisty,...let's see his birth certificate!

  • 60 votes
#1.2 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:12 PM EDT

I would fathom to say this more a little more then a 'potential blemish', it more closely resembles a giant ZIT in the middle of his forehead!

  • 56 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:14 PM EDT

Isn't that a kicker? So, right wingers: how do you handle THIS news?

Do you immediately trash Rubio as a compulsive liar, like you did President Obama over MADE UP STUFF?

OR

Do you hem and haw around and accuse the liberal media of creating an issue that should not exist, because, well, he is a Republican, and therefore should be immune to criticism?

Which is it? Inquiring minds want to know!

  • 61 votes
#1.4 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

THEY'LL be asking for Cains Birth Certificate 1st, i'd think, since They wanna know before they select'em as thier Nominee!

  • 20 votes
#1.5 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:25 PM EDT

Another one bites the dust.

  • 37 votes
#1.6 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:46 PM EDT

"exiled" means one thing. "choice" a completely different thing. I guess Marco Rubio needs an ESL course. Any volunteers?

  • 48 votes
#1.7 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:36 PM EDT

“What’s important is that the essential facts of my family’s story are completely accurate. My parents are from Cuba.

BLAH BLAH BLAH - you've been outed as a typical right wing liar who will do & say anything for a vote...

In the meantime, your Mommy & Daddy were racking up the frequent 'inner-tube' miles!

Now WE want to see your birth certificate!

Put up OR shut up Marco!

  • 51 votes
#1.8 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:36 PM EDT

it more closely resembles a giant ZIT in the middle of his forehead!

.....on Prom night!

  • 19 votes
#1.9 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:26 PM EDT

Sounds like a vetting process may be going on for VP... And how does that feel, conservatives, when Birthers go after one of you?

  • 35 votes
#1.10 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:17 AM EDT

[An embellishment and potential blemish]

I think Rubio unwittingly coined a new phrase:

...emBLEMISHment...

It's right up there with refudiate, misheard, misunderestimated...any others?

  • 21 votes
#1.11 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:25 AM EDT
Comment author avatarWhite Collar AutoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Wow, a politician may have embellished a story!!!!!!

Keep grasping at straws Liberals.

Rubio is coming and you can't stop it.

It's really gonna suck to lose the Hispanic vote isn't it?

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:36 AM EDT

Desperate Democrats taking shots at a Florida Senator because they fear a conservative Latino? Nothing is beneath a democrat. Nothing at all.

Hey Fisty,

Why do you support the Democrats who are in bed (dare I say raping?) with the government workers and the public sector unions? Clearly this voting block of 8.4 million unionized public sector workers represents a massive donation bonanza and power base for Democrats but how can you defend them when it is indeed their salary and benefits that are contributing to the demise of the country they serve. It astounds me how you and the other Liberals on these vines blindly turn an eye to this obvious problem, dare we call it a conflict of interest?

Unions are good thing Ms. Fisty. I have worked with them on multiple occasions during my tenure as a white collar evil corporatist. Notice I said worked WITH them and we have succeeded together. But there is one difference between private unions I worked with and the public ones the for which Democrats like to betray their country. Simply stated a private sector union can negotiate as hard as they want and achieve whatever the company can bear to give just as the public sector unions have done, but there is one exception, a company can always go out of business which holds the private sector unions in check. There is no provision for a Country or State to go out of business. So the ticks and leeches in the SEIU and AFL-CIO just keep on coming with their hands out for more and more of the TAXPAYER's money. I assume you pay taxes too, Fisty so that is your money they are grabbing too.

More info is provided below. So what were you saying about Marco Rubio? Does he represent a bigger travesty to the United States of America over these public sector union thugs? I think not.

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At the end of 2010, when the Bureau of Labor Statistics tallied up the ways in which Americans make their livings, there were about 103 million private sector workers in the United States compared to about 21 million public-sector workers.

But government workers are 40 percent unionized compared to the 7.7 unionization level of private-sector workers. That means that despite having a total workforce that is one-fifth the size of the private sector’s, there were more government workers represented by unions (8.41 million) than those employed by private enterprise (7.88 million).

Since the dues from those 8.41 million government workers are a major source of funding for the Democratic Party, that gives the big government worker organizations like SEIU and AFL-CIO huge clout inside the party. But what Democrats need most is to send those folks into the streets to denounce Republicans and get people to the polls to vote them out.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/20/whats-driving-dem-strategy-21-million-government-workers/#ixzz1bPu3UN18

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:15 AM EDT

Since the dues from those 8.41 million government workers are a major source of funding for the Democratic Party, that gives the big government worker organizations like SEIU and AFL-CIO huge clout inside the party.

Well the statement above proves you and your source have no credibility, union dues are never used for political funding, they can't be, that has always been illegal, I can tell you for a fact it has been illegal for least the last 35 years. Another completely mis-informed, could not be further from the truth, rant from somebody who pretends to know something about unions and obviously does not even know the most basic facts about them, just like Rubio you play mighty loose with the truth, and just make things up as you go along, thinking people will not call you out on your lies. Union Dues are never used for political donations, by any union public sector or private sector union, never, that is a lie and if you really knew anything about unions you would know that, there is a lot of embellishment spewed by republicans, they are just chock full of embellishment lately.

  • 23 votes
#1.14 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:56 AM EDT

White Collar Auto - Rubio is coming? What the hell does that mean, what is he Jesus?

I feel sorry for anyone who puts their un-dying trust in a Politician...

  • 21 votes
#1.15 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:22 AM EDT

Maybe he's their "messiah!". From the soundbites I've seen, he's not all that impressive. What, just because he's 'Hispanic' Republicans think he will deliver 'the Hispanic vote' in the 2012 vote? What's the difference, Republican governor's voter suppression efforts are pretty close to having that election all wrapped up anyway.

  • 20 votes
#1.16 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:52 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRational AmeriCANExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Forrest,

So you don't think 8.41 million government workers belonging to a union and bankrupting our country is a problem. Got it. You are comfortable raping the taxpayers.

Joe Biden, Embellisher in Chief.

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:55 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRational AmeriCANExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What, just because he's 'Hispanic' Republicans think he will deliver 'the Hispanic vote'

Is that why Obama selected Biden? To deliver the vote of the Stooopid People?

Funding prevents rapes!!

  • 5 votes
#1.18 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:01 AM EDT

What I said is you have no clue what you are talking about, you say things like union dues are used for politics and it is false and has been never been true, so why should I believe anything you say about unions. How is it public sector unions have been around for over 70 years but they are now suddenly breaking the system, not collecting taxes is the problem, huge tax abatements and giveaways to corporations are the problem, 15 million people unemployed and collecting government services instead of paying taxes is the problem, not the wages of cops, teachers, and firemen. Your premise is as false as the rest of your information, try a subject you actually know something about, you don't have a clue as to how and what unions can and can't do with members dues money. No I have no problem whatsoever with government employees belonging to a union. Do you have a problem with elected officials of the US government signing pledges to a single man. BTW if you really want to be rational it helps to start with the truth.

  • 20 votes
#1.19 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:14 AM EDT

A little deeper research by the esteemed "investigative" journalist might have discovered that Cuba had been in the throws of revolution since the early 1950's, and I am sure He would have also found how the gentle, peace loving, Revolutionaries, Fidel, Raul, and Che, treated their enemies during that time, I can't imagine why anyone would want to take their families and leave such a workers paradise when they had a pretty good idea of what was coming, ( I have a Cuban friend of mine who was a young girl when Castro came to power and had to listen to the round the clock, nonstop firing squads, that took place after Castro seized power, that included among its' victims ,her father, She still has nightmares),yes, I just can't imagine why Mr. Rubio's parents would not want to wait to expose their family to such an experience.

  • 4 votes
#1.20 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:14 AM EDT

Weather you like it or not it's the truth Rational American. Seem to me you can't put two an two together.

Example: Small city gets some of its funding from the Federal Government who pay cops. The small city loses revenue due to business cutting jobs. Now they are not able to pay city employees, someone must get laid off. They ask the Federal Government for help. NO said Repukes. Now the small city must lay off COPS or any other city worker. YOU IDIOT.

  • 17 votes
#1.21 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT

Solutions - then why is that Flint, Michigan where O'Biden made his rape murder comment has a lower crime rate during these down years? I must be too dumb to understand the logic hear. You really are a one delta ten tango there buddy!

Thanks for taking the bait!

  • 3 votes
#1.22 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

@Rational AmeriCAN:

There is no provision for a Country or State to go out of business.

Ah yes, the old fall back of the free-market lovers. Let me ask, since you're so rational and all, what provisions exist for large banks and other "private" institutions to go out of business? There is no moral hazard in business because our Wall Street masters have cleverly discovered that they can privatize profits and socialize risk with the full faith and credit of the US government. This is a creation of both parties, nonetheless it completely invalidates your argument.

And as for your argument about public sector workers leeching on the taxpayers via greedy unions- just out of curiosity, were you aware that the Obama administration has already presided over more net private job creation in less than 3 years than GWB did in 8? The reason for the bleak unemployment picture is because of the shedding of federal, state, and local public sector jobs, due to the wrong-headed focus of Republicans on deficit reduction during a recession. It's easy to ignore the fact that despite all the Teapublican zealotry against public sector jobs that the number has actually decreased markedly, rather than increased under Obama.

The public sector is a significant employer; the private sector simply does not (and never will) create enough jobs to keep employment at historically acceptable levels (e.g. 5%). You can't whine about unemployment and rail against public sector jobs at the same time without sounding ridiculous, particularly during a prolonged recession. But then, sounding ridiculous has never been a deal breaker with Republican voters, has it?

  • 18 votes
#1.23 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:26 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJoe-755363Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

This is all the liberals can come up with?

Weak...very weak. And it's grasping at nothing. Castro started his overthrow of Batista well before 1959. On top of that, the liberal press is having to go back a generation to discredit this man? Rubio wasn't even born until 1971.

Now let's get some real investigative journalism about "embellishments". Go find Obama's college transcripts. Find one person that was in a class he taught as a "constitutional professor". Find me one case he tried as a lawyer. Get me the scores of his LSAT or ACT or SAT....he claims he's smart...I haven't seen one thing to show that he is. How embellished are these things?

  • 3 votes
#1.24 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT

Hey Forrest...so you are saying the labor does not support Democrats with donations to candidates? Is that right?

http://www.aier.org/research/briefs/1550-obama-thanks-his-friends-government-spending-and-union-support

Since 1990, labor unions have contributed over $667 million in election campaigns in the United States, of which $614 million or 92 percent went to support Democratic candidates. In 2008, unions spent $74.5 million in campaign contributions, with $68.3 million going to the Democratic Party. Already, unions have contributed $6.5 million to the 2010 elections, and $6 million has gone to Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics in Washington, D.C.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=367x13553

Of all the political action committee donations made to the Obama campaign, 89.3 percent were from unions. Of all the political action committee donations made to the McCain campaign, just 2.9 percent came from unions and employee PACs.

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http://blogs.sacbee.com/the_state_worker/2008/10/column-extra-your-money-and-pr.html

SEIU's political action committee, SEIU Committee on Political Education, has given $13.53 million to Barack Obama's Democratic presidential campaign and another $3.16 million to oppose Republican John McCain's campaign, according to federal disclosure reports.

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Really Forrest? I don't think you are that dumb. You are just opinionated and think you can obfuscate the truth.

  • 3 votes
#1.25 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:33 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRational AmeriCANExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@sryan

great point... You can't whine about unemployment and rail against public sector jobs at the same time without sounding ridiculous.

Except those folks should never have been hired in the first place and that is the travesty Sir. As to your other tripe about private job growth please cite that for me.

Also, banks fail every month.

http://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/bank/

According to the FDIC 6 banks failed in October, 2011

According to the FDIC 6 banks failed in September, 2011.

According to the FDIC 7 banks failed in August, 2011.

According to the FDIC 12 banks failed in July.

Need I go on?

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:40 AM EDT

You can see the tea people GOP republicans tactic is to rewrite history again. Claiming Castro's over through of Cuba started well before 1959. Sad thing is the media will let them get away with it as usual. It's not hard to find out when some one settled in America, all you have to do is go back and look at the census. I didn't have to listen to my parents about our family, I traced us back to 1795 just by the census. They have copies in your library.

  • 9 votes
#1.27 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRational AmeriCANExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

According to www.usdebtclock.org

The liability of our Public Sector is more than $211 Billion of our current expenditures. 15 million public sector employees add an awful lot of debt to the bottom line. We could fund an awful lot of Obamacare for that kind of money. Ruht Roh Raggy! Looks like the bloated govmint is adding to the problem.

So is it a tax collecting problem or a tax spending problem?

Grump stated it this way:

How is it public sector unions have been around for over 70 years but they are now suddenly breaking the system, not collecting taxes is the problem, huge tax abatements and giveaways to corporations are the problem,

There's your answer Sir. $221 Billion in pensions to federal workers is the equivalent of a 10% increase in spending compared to our current revenue.

Take a look at that web site and tell me where to cut or rather tell me how to increase the revenue to cover the shortfall of $1.5 trillion aka a 68% INCREASE in Revenue generation. A 68% increase in taxes! Is that what you are suggesting Forrest Dump?

  • 2 votes
#1.28 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:52 AM EDT

My question would be how did Rubio's family have the wherewithal to leave Cuba and return multiple times? My guess is that the family did not arrive on an inner tube.

Just a hunch, but perhaps the Rubio family was part of the upper class elite who could pretty much do what they wanted, unlike most Cubans at that time. If this is the case, to pose as a refugee driven from the shores of Cuba is a bit disingenous IMO.

The picture of Cuba before Castro is not at all black and white. Castro ( a member of the Cuban upper class himself) was able to gain traction because a small group of wealthy people controlled the economic system (sound familiar?)and most of the people in Cuba were extrememly poor and landless. You can look it up.

Are those Mr. Rubio's roots? While the direction in which Castro moved Cuba is regrettable, the reasons for his rise to power are also regrettable.

Just askin'.

  • 8 votes
#1.29 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT

I can understand why republicans are so desperate to change the dialog. What a disappointment to find out their "ace in the hole" has some problems with the truth. Guess Rubio won't be a slam dunk as vp after all. Must be a hard pill to swallow.

  • 11 votes
#1.30 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT

lib50 - who cares about Rubio? I am trying to save my country from its demise while you liberal socialists seem content to go after Mr. Rubio who last time I checked is not running for anything until 2016. Explain why I should care about him since I don't live in Florida and have no plans to do any business in that state in the near future? Hmm.

Couldn't be that Latinos and Hispanics were starting to leave the Messiah so they had to target Mr. Rubio could it?

  • 2 votes
#1.31 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT

Oh yeah labor supports democrats big time, but not one dime of it is dues money. Political action funds are completely separate and can only be collected from members who voluntarily wish to donate to those funds, and submit a signed authorization stating so. Political money voluntarily comes out of the personal pockets of only the members who wish to donate, when they wish to donate, what labor will do is put 1000's of boots on the ground doing a lot of volunteer work for the candidates they choose to support.

  • 5 votes
#1.32 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT

Forrest Grump 2.0

Well the statement above proves you and your source have no credibility, union dues are never used for political funding, they can't be, that has always been illegal, I can tell you for a fact it has been illegal for least the last 35 years.

No, your statement proves a lack of credibility. Union dues are used for political funding and it isn't illegal with the exception of laws in 6 states that prevent it. Those are the states with Paycheck Protection Laws.

http://workerfreedom.org/Paycheck-Protection-a2789

By the way....the Unions are fighting these laws very hard and you can see why:

When teachers were given the chance to opt out of paying for the political causes of education unions, the number of teachers participating in Utah dropped from 68 percent to 6.8 percent, and the number of represented teachers contributing in Washington dropped from 82 percent to 6 percent.

http://teachersunionexposed.com/dues.cfm

So what are you talking about Forrest? Maybe you're from one of the SIX states that don't allow dues to go to campaigns without authorization and assumed (typical) that it was a national law?

  • 1 vote
#1.33 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT

@Rational

Also, banks fail every month.

You're right, I guess the failure of Fred's National Bank and Trust more than accounts for the fact the Goldman Sachs, AIG, B of A, etc. are completely immune to failure, since Fred controls so much more of the economy. Great point.

On private sector job creation, if we give Bush a pass on the inherited Clinton recession, we end up with 1.8 million net jobs created from the point of recovery to end of term. Similarly, if we give Obama a pass on the inherited Bush debacle, the net number from point of recovery is 2.4 million. The difference is, Bush had seven years under this calculation, Obama has less than 2.

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:27 AM EDT

LMAO.........the lefts desperation is really starting to show. NBC's motto......if there's nothing there .....make it up.

  • 2 votes
#1.35 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:48 AM EDT

Nope Joe you are dead wrong paycheck protection laws don't allow dues money to be deducted from payroll checks, they are only designed to make it more expensive and inconvenient for members to easily pay their dues, they have absolutely nothing to do with political funds. It has never been legal in my lifetime for unions to use dues money for political action, never. Unions are non-profits and every dime has to be accounted for, you can see the LM2 reports for any local union you wish, their finances are a matter of public record. You can say it and republicans continue to spread those lies, but it is not true, political monies are collected separetly and voluntarily, dues money can only be used for the operating expenses of the local union. Blast unions if you wish, but get your facts straight. I know it is disheartening for republicans to think that all that money is donated voluntarliy by union members, and that it is not forced upon them, but it is voluntary, every dime of it. It is their right as americans to support or not support any candidate they choose, they just choose mostly democrats, but is is their own free choice and it is their own money out of their net pay if they wish to donate.

  • 3 votes
#1.36 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT

you need to do a little fact check on union donations and the amounts they give the DNC.

  • 1 vote
#1.37 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:55 AM EDT

On private sector job creation, if we give Bush a pass on the inherited Clinton recession, we end up with 1.8 million net jobs created from the point of recovery to end of term. Similarly, if we give Obama a pass on the inherited Bush debacle, the net number from point of recovery is 2.4 million. The difference is, Bush had seven years under this calculation, Obama has less than 2.

So how do you convince an unemployed person that they count against Bush or Clinton and not Obama?

  • 1 vote
#1.38 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:05 PM EDT

It is a matter of US law, it is not my personal opinion, fact check it all you want, the laws are on the books, unfortunately my opinion does not constitute the laws of the land. Union members donate plenty, "the union" can't donate anything from it's funds, every dime collected for political donation is above and beyond a members dues.

  • 2 votes
#1.39 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT

pull up the largest campaign donors the past 10 years and over half the top 20 are labor unions with 93% of their funds going to DNC.

also documented cases of union employees working for candidates,phone banks used for campaign cals...etc....etc..

  • 1 vote
#1.40 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:17 PM EDT

@sryan -

Ah yes, the old fall back of the free-market lovers.

You don't support free markets? Is that right? If you do not love the free market, then what would you replace it with? Socialism, marxism, facism, communism, etc...?

I do love the free market. It generates $14 trillion in GDP to the benefit of our citizens. Our healthcare, our security, our laptops, our smartphones, our internet, our roads, our schools, our everything is as a result of our free market economy.

How was China's economy before they embraced capitalism? You know, the communists.

In 1978, after years of state control of all productive assets, the government of China embarked on a major program of economic reform. In an effort to awaken a dormant economic giant, it encouraged the formation of rural enterprises and private businesses, liberalized foreign trade and investment, relaxed state control over some prices, and invested in industrial production and the education of its workforce. By nearly all accounts, the strategy has worked spectacularly.

While pre-1978 China had seen annual growth of 6 percent a year (with some painful ups and downs along the way), post-1978 China saw average real growth of more than 9 percent a year with fewer and less painful ups and downs. In several peak years, the economy grew more than 13 percent.

So the government got out of the way and the economy grew with all that pent up demand. Now if only we could get our government out of our way. Simple.

So why does Obama and the Democrats want more government? Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain (the PIGS of Europe) are all government heavy and dying economically.

  • 2 votes
#1.41 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT

I don't have a problem with the free market Rational, so long as it is free and fair. True capitalism allows reward for investors who risk their capital in an uncertain environment. When actors are allowed to assume limitless risk, reaping enormous profits when successful and socializing the losses when not, that ain't capitalism. It's oligarchy.

An active and adversarial government is essential to ensuring that the interests of consumers and taxpayers are balanced with those of entrepreneurs and corporations. If you and your ilk are successful in eviscerating government to the point of irrelevance, you will succeed in helping capitalism fulfill Marx's prophecy, namely, destroying itself via its own excesses.

  • 1 vote
#1.42 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT

Gotta love it when a man defends capitalism by quoting Marx. I can hear him spinning in his grave from Nashville!

I do not want to evicerate our government. I want them to do what they are Constitutionally bound to do. Thousands of regulations, 10,000,000 word tax codes, villainizing success, being bought and sold by the highest bidder,.....nope, none of that. Our government needs to be right sized. It is so bloated now it is eating itself.

  • 1 vote
#1.43 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:42 PM EDT

We have a name for phonys here in the rocky mtns. Thinking about changing it to a "rubio". Also considering a "cain", a "mitt", a "perry". The republican party sure is looking stupid. Getting worse by the day.

  • 7 votes
#1.44 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:50 PM EDT

"I do not want to evicerate [SIC] our government."

Sure you do. Government employees are all useless, right? What good are clean water, clean air, safe highways and workplaces, a safe food supply, secure nuclear stockpiles worldwide, etc. if it interferes with millionaires and billionaires amassing ever more grotesque fortunes?

  • 4 votes
#1.45 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:53 PM EDT

Yawn, another non-story, much like BO's missing birth certificate, Hilary being name after the man who climbed Mt Everest et all. Great to see all the pinheads out in force feverishly swiping at a politician.

    #1.46 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:55 PM EDT

    Won't disagree with that hiram, union members donate to democrats, I just want to make sure people know the truth and the truth is that is not dues money. You are also correct we will be manning, phone banks, and doing any kind of volunteer work we can for the candidates we support. The phone banks and the young people that man them are awesome, they beat the heck out of robo calls.

    • 2 votes
    #1.47 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

    I think we need to break into his house and save Rubio. He has been taken hostage by concerned neighbors, feeling he should not be deported to Cuba, just because he lies, oops, mis-stated facts about his upbringing. If we don't save this guy, who will?

      #1.49 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:18 PM EDT

      mo - seems that the only ones that want to rewrite history is the looney tune liberals.

      BTW - breaking news on bloombergTV says that our troops in Iraq will be home for the holidays, Good thing for obama that he followed bush's timeline for withdrawal in 2011.

        #1.50 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

        You guys need to occupy some jobs.

        • 1 vote
        #1.51 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:32 PM EDT

        Rational (?) AmeriCAN:

        [I am trying to save my country from its demise...]

        Oh, really? Just how many phone calls have you made or emails have you sent to your GOP/Tea Party elected officials to tell them to stop @!$%#ing with American lives and pass the jobs bills presented to them?

        I'd say none...

        • 3 votes
        #1.52 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:47 PM EDT

        If you want real entertainment, try and writing him an email. It is know as the Republican washing machine. Lie, spin, lie, spin.

        • 2 votes
        #1.53 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:18 PM EDT

        Forrest, you need to go back to doing what you do best - eating chocolates. If it was illegal for 35 years, then why did California have not 1 but 2 propositions on their ballots to prevent union dues from being used for political donations unless the union members approved it first? Look at proposition 226:

        The official ballot summary for Proposition 226 was:

        • Requires all employers and labor organizations to obtain employee's or member's permission before withholding wages or using union dues or fees for political contributions. Employee's or member's permission is to be obtained annually using a prescribed form. Requires record keeping.
        • Prohibits contributions to state and local candidates by residents, governments or entities of foreign countries.

        How about proposition 75:

        Proposition 75: Public Employee Union Dues. Required Employee Consent for Political Contributions. Initiative Statute.

        • Prohibits the use by public employee labor organizations of public employee dues or fees for political contributions except with the prior consent of individual public employees each year on a specified written form.
        • Restriction does not apply to dues or fees collected for charitable organizations, health care insurance, or other purposes directly benefiting the public employee.
        • Requires public employee labor organizations to maintain and submit records to Fair Political Practices Commission concerning individual public employees’ and organizations’ political contributions.

        Sounds like to me you need some more koolaid to go with your chocolates.

        • 1 vote
        #1.54 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:31 AM EDT

        The only change there is the annual authorization. One authorization card use to be enough for an indefinite time period, the change that law makes is now they have to get a new authorization card signed each year, for each employee, it is just a way to cost the union members extra time and trouble, by making them reauthorize each and every year.

          #1.55 - Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:56 AM EDT

          Sen Rubio

          The thing with you is,you say one lie and when challenged you say another lie to erase the first lie and consequently dug your self into a ditch containing lies and lies. The fact is that you are a born liar.You say your parents returned to Cuba in 1961. By then thousands of exiles had arrived in Miami and the Bay of Pigs invasion had taken place. The area was a really a war zone.. Your exile story does'nt fit in here.

          bertyran

            #1.56 - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:39 PM EDT

            Where else do you think union money comes from.......besides under the table pay-offs and kick-backs???? the members are even unable to designate to the GOP if they prefer.....

            • 1 vote
            #1.57 - Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:04 AM EDT

            @Mickey,

            Zero- to your question about calling GOP or Tea Party representatives. All my elected representatives are Democrats. I have written and called them 100's of times since 2006.

            Give this guy a call and tell him what a failure his policies are: 202-456-1414.

              #1.58 - Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:07 AM EDT
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              Ha now that's even funnier Marco, they had to get away, they fled, but they went back a few times. I guess it's like when Mrs. Grump and myself flee, and she makes me turn around and go back to see if she left the coffee pot on, HA.

              BTW Mrs. Grump says they taught her to say embellishment instead of bullsh!t in charm school, you probably already realized I didn't go to charm school.

              • 35 votes
              Reply#2 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

              Yup, Marco, the 'Son of Exiles'.....thats really funny!

              Things weren't so bad in Cuba that they were afraid to go back and forth!

              Let's see how Marco tries to 'fix' this one!

              • 30 votes
              #2.1 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:24 PM EDT

              Cover me! I'm going in! I forgot to grab a jacket!

              • 20 votes
              #2.2 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:09 PM EDT

              Best story ever, Forrest, hi to Mrs.Grump.

              • 18 votes
              #2.3 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:15 PM EDT

              Honest New Day, you don't have to embellish an old Grump! I will tell Mrs. Grump, "Lotta", that is my pet name for her, that you said hello.

              • 10 votes
              #2.4 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:00 PM EDT

              OMG the add is gone! Thank You! Thank You!

              • 11 votes
              #2.5 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:23 PM EDT

              You mean to tell me RUBIO family continued to go back and forth from an exiled place WOW!

              Run from a dictator then go back to Cuba then run again then go back then run again.

              F-it I can't explain it - HE LIE!

              • 10 votes
              #2.6 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:25 AM EDT
              Reply

              You just can't make up this stuff! Truth is stranger than fiction.....I wonder if there will be calls to see HIS birth certificate...

              "We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

              • 24 votes
              Reply#3 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:24 PM EDT

              Maybe Marco is what the TeaPeople call an 'anchor baby'........

              • 32 votes
              #3.1 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:25 PM EDT

              Nurse-1006475

              The same group that questioned President Barack Obama's birth certificate has now turned its attention to Rubio

              The group of birther activists is not arguing if Rubio was born in the U.S., instead saying he was born before his parents became U.S. citizens.

              They say Rubio is ineligible to one one day be president under Article 2 of the Constitution, which says "no person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of President."

              cfnews13.com

              • 13 votes
              #3.2 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:50 PM EDT

              Well they may have technical point but if he was born on US soil then I think he is a citizen. I guess the the answer to that is where was he born as they went back and forth from the US to Cuba. If he was born on US soil like I said I think that makes him a citizen. If that is the case he would be a better VP for Perry they can bill him as an Anchor baby that made good, and give Perry some cover on the issue, or sink him. Ha it depends how republicans feel now about what they say they hated a week ago.

              • 16 votes
              #3.3 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:22 PM EDT

              Well they may have technical point but if he was born on US soil then I think he is a citizen.

              It wasn't that long ago that conservatives were taking the opposite position.

              • 16 votes
              #3.4 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:33 PM EDT

              Yep Cain and Rubio suddenly have them loving two things they used to hate, anchor babies, and tax increases.

              • 18 votes
              #3.5 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:43 PM EDT

              OH OH Marco caught in a LIE-O

              • 8 votes
              #3.6 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:06 AM EDT

              Actually, since he was born in '71, he wouldn't be considered an anchor baby. His parents were already naturalized by then. But that doesn't excuse all of his "embellishments."

              • 5 votes
              #3.7 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:27 AM EDT

              Well now he says that is what Mommy and Daddy told him, how was he supposed to know when Castro took over Cuba, hell he is just a US Senator, not a history buff. Republicans once again willingly ignore the truth, and insist on hanging their hats on smoke and mirrors.

              • 9 votes
              #3.8 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT

              Let me say if he was born here and the lae says he is a citizen then that is fine with me, but I agree you look damn silly when you get caught in a lie that blows your best political speech and your own family's personal history all to hell.

              • 4 votes
              #3.9 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:03 PM EDT

              You really mean to tell me that he, or more unbelievably some one on his staff, didn't bother to find out the facts? Does he think he's playing with kids?

              • 3 votes
              #3.10 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:26 PM EDT
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              Comment author avatarJFK2112Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Ooooh. Thats gonna leave a mark...NOT.

              Lets look at all of Obama's lies shall we:

              - My Father served in WWII

              - When a bill lands on my desk the public will have 5 days to read it

              - I'll get rid of Earmarks

              - His mother fighting the insurance companies for treatment

              - His uncle being one of the first to arrive at Auschwitz

              - Paygo

              The list goes on and on and on and on and on...

              • 6 votes
              Reply#4 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:29 PM EDT

              The list goes on and on and on and on and on...

              Just how many campaign commercials did Candidate Obama run on making those claims?

              Hint: NONE!

              Unlike Marco who ran not ONE but TWO!

              Give it a rest - you're out of gas! lol

              • 27 votes
              #4.1 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:32 PM EDT

              I think you repubs would do yourselves and the country a great service if you crawled back in your holes and drew the dirt in behind you. None of you jokers are going to get elected in 2012.

              Even your superstar heroes turn out to be frauds.

              Obama's star just keeps rising,...... and yours just keep on falling. It makes for good entertainment, but you are embarassing yourselves.

              BTW: does he have to be naturalized to be a Senator? If so, there may be a prison term involved here.

              • 22 votes
              #4.2 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:32 PM EDT

              First ask for his birth certificate then throw his ases in jail for LYING

              • 5 votes
              #4.3 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:29 AM EDT

              Just another tea bag young republican under the watchful wing of Grover Norquist - just what we need. Embellishing? what a surprise, he's a politician...

              • 2 votes
              #4.4 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:59 AM EDT
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              Rubio should resign. This is a very embarrassing example of stating whatever is necessary to win. It is one of the most disturbing aspects of the new American ethos: do anything and say anything to win. There is no way he didn't know that his parents arrival here was pre-Castro. How could anyone ever trust anything important that the man had to say? He is a political sociopath.

              • 22 votes
              Reply#5 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:40 PM EDT

              Sadly he won't. What ever happened to honesty? Do we just make up a story that sounds good. Repeat it a few times and then believe that it is the truth. I guess we can now create our own reality and truth and when caught just blame it on someone, anyone-but ourselves. That is a pretty depressing thought, especially since I plan to be around for another 40 years.

              • 12 votes
              #5.1 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:39 PM EDT

              Lets us just for 1 minute pretend that is the story he got from his parents, he must have known the year his parents arrived in the USA and if he was just a little curious about his Cuban heritage he would have known that Castro took power 2 years after his parents arrived in the USA. My parents were legal immigrants, I know the year they arrived, the way they arrived, and I also know the name of the ship they travelled across the Atlantic. Marco Rubio needs to tell the truth not spin it.

              • 9 votes
              #5.2 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

              Marco Rubio sound like Marco Pinocio Polo

              • 5 votes
              #5.3 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:32 AM EDT
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              I was born to parents who had to endure constant tyranny from the King of England; quartering of soldiers in homes, Stamp Acts and such, not to mention taxation without representation.

              Alright.  They were born in America.  But hey, that crap did happen a few years before.  Can I run for Vice president now??

               

              • 13 votes
              Reply#6 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT

              My grandfather made a bold decision to leave Germany and bravely escaped Hitler and the Nazis!!!*

              (*He was 5 years old and the year was 1910.)

              • 15 votes
              #6.1 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:05 PM EDT
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              I don't know whats worse. Lying about your past or thinking you can get away with it. Come on, your a public figure. You don't think someone is going to look into this. And did you just blame your parents for a faulty recollection? If I had to flee a country, you can bet I'd remember every detail and I'm sure your parents did also.

              • 21 votes
              Reply#7 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:33 PM EDT

              Who's to say that Rubio's parents weren't fleeing Castro? They just consulted with Miss Cleo before they decided to leave!

              • 11 votes
              Reply#8 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:51 PM EDT

              As someone who came to this great country more than 40 years ago on my own volition , you never forget the date you arrive. To suggest that they never mentioned the year is just not credible. If and when they became natularized 7 years from date of arrival, you'd remember that date too and have the papers to prove it.

              You talk to your children and tell them about your life before you got here, they too should be proud of where you come from and should know all the details, especially if it involved you fleeing.

              This guy is a panderer and also a liar. Guess we won't see him as a candidate for VP or Pres. He is to Teaparty Hispanics as Herman Cain is to TP African-Americans.

              Overated and Outed.

              • 28 votes
              Reply#9 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:15 PM EDT

              I love it. Marco is an anchor baby. I guess that puts him on the GOP/tp most hated list. I can't hardly hear the conservatives over the tap dancing they're doing.

              • 20 votes
              Reply#10 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:19 PM EDT

              The GOP are all lying hypocrites. Fancy living in America being ruled by these guys? All lies would be

              decreed the truth. The truth would be a punishable offense. Christianity for everyone or you won't be

              getting that job. Oh, by the way, isn't the world supposed to end tomorrow? No seriously.

              • 20 votes
              Reply#11 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:34 PM EDT

              I got that wrong! It was the pastor that incorrectly predicted the Rapture last May 21st, then rescheduled

              it for Oct. 21. Well we better talk fast and say our goodbyes.

              • 9 votes
              Reply#12 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:43 PM EDT

              I am a disabled veteran with psych and physical ailments from my military accomplishments between 1990-1993. I was on 7 psych medications and chose to stop taking them over a year ago. I have a service dog (MARLEY) she helps with my anxiety levels but without me using “Black-market” marijuana its harder for me to control, without marijuana the ARTHRITIS in my back would be more painful. I have a young friend of mine who is diagnosed with MS (multiple sclerosis) he too benefits from the effects. I say to you the readers KNOW-THE-FACTS…..If it’s legalized it too would stimulate the economy by shutting down unneeded prisons and government spending on prison guards , low-level law officials and programs like” NARK” and “DARE” that eat at local community budgets(This would put the MONEY back where it came from Social Security, Healthcare and WEL-FARE). These are local programs formed by the government under the “war on Drugs” with money bribes to your local politicians. why do you think we all want to know now “WHERE DID THE MONEY GO ?” The budgets are done every year the money is hidden in programs!!!Have we forgotten we gave IRAQ “GRANTS” to rebuild not LOANS ? How about the tsunami $$ to Japan to rebuild or to Indonesia to rebuild OR HAITI after their earthquake to rebuild ? I have an IDEA use US tax dollars to help the US TAX PAYER……….The sad part is we the people didn’t vote for that congress did for us. when we have a crisis we don’t have the money . Not to mention the new STATE “regulation” on pain medication means I now have to drive to my doctors once a month instead of once-every 3. The raise they are considering for SSDI is a joke compared the the gas$ increases over the past 3yrs. WE keep writing laws that keep LOW-income, LOW-income. wall-street has the gas market cornered their job is to make their investors money, it’s congress that’s spending our money and draining the purse not WALL street. Try sleeping at night knowing the country i was injured protecting is the same country I’m now fighting to legalize an” alleviation” from my symptoms.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#13 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:56 PM EDT

              James Hale. Thank you for your service. The problem I have with legalizing marijuana is that studies have shown it can trigger schizophrenia in young people who are already predisposed to that condition. It worsens their symptoms. I tried pot when I was a kid, and it made me very paranoid. I do think it effects people differently, according to their personalities. In Maine, medical marijuana has been legalized and they are just starting to set up local distribution centers for it. I am sure it will do alot of people good. Your experience is proof of that. I just don't want to see young kids smoking it, and possibly messing themselves up for life. PS I hope you move to Maine. You could live near a center and not have to drive too far.

              • 1 vote
              #13.1 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT
              Reply

              How can you tell a politician is lying? His lips are moving. Guess that applies to tea partyticians, too.

              • 12 votes
              Reply#14 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:00 PM EDT

              Hey now - be fair. They just used the 'wayback machine' and traveled back in time. They really fled Castro.

              • 9 votes
              Reply#15 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:00 PM EDT

              much ado about nothing, libs.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#16 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:06 PM EDT

              Not true. If you're a Cuban in Florida politics, or social circles, you have standing based on your anti-relationship to Castro. Fled the revolution? That's three points. Had a family member at Bay of Pigs? Seven points. Worked at the Miami CIA field office? Ten points. Get caught lying about your anti-relationship? Minus two.

              • 21 votes
              #16.1 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:28 PM EDT

              American:

              You have no clue how those who had to flee oppression and/or torture. feel about liars using their suffering for personal gain.

              A wannabe refugee is as bad as a wannabe veteran. "Much ado about nothing"?........in your world, Because in that elitist, exclusive country club, nothing but adoring all things rich and evangelical matter.

              • 16 votes
              #16.2 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:45 PM EDT

              This is just the kind of thing republicans make sure is a big deal, why would it be any different now?

              • 12 votes
              #16.3 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:56 PM EDT

              Do you think for one minute if they caught President Obama in any lie they would not put him on a cross and choke the shiet out of him? HELL YEAH THEY WOULD.

              But now we should just sweep the biggest LIE in Politics under a rug. HELL NO WE NOT.

              Not only that where is his birth certificate and he should resign NOW

              • 4 votes
              #16.4 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:45 AM EDT

              paul, so now we award points? How many points for having to pay for the sins of our fathers.

              Southern mays - So you are saying that any of the sins of the father most also bear on the son as well. Funny on how obama wasn't painted the same way by libs. Why should rubio? You are right though, I prefer to pass judgement on a man or woman based on their personal actions not their parents or grandparents. To bad liberals and pothers can't see it that way.

              Forrest - what is the big deal you mentioned?

              Solutions - a little bit radical aren't you? While it may be nice to see obama declare that he would not seek or accept the democratic nomination like LBJ did so many years ago, suffice it to say that his record on the economy is nothing to brag about. Obama reminds me so much about the stories of what Nero did while rome burned.

                #16.5 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:01 PM EDT

                Obama supplied only the short form of his birth certificate for a long while ... much ado about nothing, repugs.

                  #16.6 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:25 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  In addition to fabricating his family's escape, today his Obamahaterade symptoms flared up.

                  Months ago he bellowed that the "weak" allied forces (NATO's French & German) were not able to assist the ouster of Khaddafy, and that Obama was doomed to faillure for working with coalition forces. TODAY: he said that Obama deserved NO credit for the destruction of Khaddafy, because that it were the French and Germans that caught him.

                  While fleeing in their inner tube, he must have sustained brain damage as an ovum.

                  Rubio: un mentiroso creando un fantasia sin moral. Translation: this liar is perfect for the TP's dumbed down immoral fantasy universe.

                  • 14 votes
                  Reply#17 - Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:37 PM EDT

                  You libtards are afraid of Rubio. That's credential enough for any rational human being. Fall 2010 was just a dress rehersal...

                    Reply#18 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:13 AM EDT

                    You talk like a stinky pig. Your Teabag Friends are going down faster then your mama saying give it to me black daddy.

                    • 5 votes
                    #18.1 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:49 AM EDT

                    Amazing and always hilarious when children try to get involved with "adult" political discussions. Posters like Stinky Pig, American and the other GOP brown shirts that have to haunt this liberal comment area, are pretty strong indicators of the type of folks the Tbaggers are. When confronted with out right lies ( like the recent GOP debates)( go ahead fact check the lies that they blatantly used on video, I dare you) they are so quick to attack Obama. So predictable and yet utterly transparent. You fools better go running back to the Cock Brothers to get your diapers changed.

                    • 3 votes
                    #18.2 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:17 AM EDT

                    So we Libtards are afraid of Rubio. Well, I guess we can just add him to the growing list of others who have scared us. Let's see.....

                    Palin just scares you!

                    Trump just scares you!

                    Bachmann just scares you!

                    Newt just scares you!

                    Certainly, Perry just scares you!

                    The list just keeps going on and on. One after another, it usually only takes a few weeks before rational Americans realize just how scary these Partiers can be! But Stinky, there's always an unenlightened few who never WILL get it! Happy Halloween!

                    • 4 votes
                    #18.3 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:19 AM EDT

                    NO they don't scare us. We are repulsed by lying scum which all Americans should be. Based on that I question your loyalty to our great nation when Dixie Fu&*tards like you pick candidates that are right out of SNL.

                    • 2 votes
                    #18.4 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:26 AM EDT
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                    The TPrs don't care if he lies or embellishes the truth it is all about what he will do for THEM and do unto others they hate. The NeoFascists would have elected a robot Porky Pig if they could have gotten away with it.

                    As long as this story is up the Rove Trolls will blame the Liberal Media and go on attacking Obama for all the worlds trouble.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#19 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:24 AM EDT

                    A Liar is a Liar. If he lies about this what else has he lied about? His finances maybe? You can bet the farm on it.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#20 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT

                    Isn't if funny how the msm can find all these 'true' facts about a republican, but embellishments given by our 'president' weren't checked. Some day... someone will spill the beans... I can't wait to see all the red faces.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#21 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:25 AM EDT

                    President Obama - enough said

                    Can you believe me NOW?

                    • 2 votes
                    #21.1 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT

                    Patty may I ask what specific background you have to qualify as a political commentator? What great hidden knowledge of our system do you have to base such b.s. on? Remember Fox News does not qualify as a valid source. You wouldn't happen to live south of the Mason Dixon line now would you. ( also for your edification anything west of the Mississippi and short of the West Cost qualifies as a Dixie F&*ktard region.

                    • 1 vote
                    #21.2 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:22 AM EDT

                    donny - she has as much standing to be a political commentator as any of us, Why show us your stupidity and incompetence to say otherwise?

                    At least we know that the 57 states was a figment of obamas imagination and that he admitted to lying about the shovel ready jobs in 2009. Even his claim of adding 1.9 million jobs with his AJA bill within the next 12 months is extremely suspect. When bloomberg news surveyed over 28 economists the consensus was only an average of 275k jobs created.

                    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-28/obama-jobs-plan-prevents-2012-recession-in-survey-of-economists.html

                      #21.3 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:17 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      I find it interesting that the story did not give any examples where Rubio said his family "fled from Castro." His own website does say that they came after Castro, but that was the final time they came to America. The two ads said his parents were exiles and according to a definition of the word exile, he is accurate. According to Dictionary.com, one of the definitions reads like this:

                      anyone separated from his or her country or home voluntarily or by force of circumstances.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#22 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:33 AM EDT

                      That's a bit of a stretch on the definition Ray and doesn't take much searching to find speeches where he said his parents fled from Castro.

                      • 3 votes
                      #22.1 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:28 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      This LIAR RUBIO is the same gop'er that wants to do away with social security. PS the same organization that HE WENT to see take care of his dying father and sick mother. Get a hot reporter to start checking out Rubio's school records,health benefits,to see how much of all these freebees that he has repaid and his money expenses as the speaker of the house in Florida and the bills he ran up on the GOP credit cards. fixing his house and cars on the GOP tab. A close view and investigation will show that he is the typical MIAMI/DADE CUBAN that can not pass an honest investigation on any aspect of his and his family on the Goodies they received even when they were not part of the immigration due to Castro. He probably should be removed from the Senate if a legitmate investigation[ NOT USING MIAMI CUBANS] is pursued. There is and has been an influx of questionable activities of this group that uses a rigged pattern to get elected and use the system for personnal advantages. Rubio you chose to get the NATIONAL ATTENTION that was usually covered up by your type with your own clan and group in the Miami/Dade hispanic politicians.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#23 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:42 AM EDT

                      No wonder RUBY did not want to run for President huummmmm. NOW do a full investigation from birth to current. You want to be a star RUBY you got it. Now take what comes with it. You can start by telling the truth. If not we will find out anyway count on it. Jack Leg

                      • 1 vote
                      #23.1 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT

                      Florida had a very good Canidate for Mr. Rubio's seat however he was SEEN with President Obama when we had the BP Spill problem in the Panhandle of Florida. The Republican party banned the Former Governor Charley Crist in favor of this LIEING Cuban from Miami.

                      Florida Politics is a humorist thing to watch. The current Governor ex president of Health South who was indited for false Medicare Billing and he became a Multi-millionaire claimed during his campaign that he would create 700,000 JOBS in 7 years. So far the State has lost jobs and the un-employment percentage is increasing. He is now saying I DID NOT SAY THAT. Of course the news stations have video of him saying those exact words but It is OK to LIE if you are a Republican Politician.

                      Will it never end?

                      • 2 votes
                      #23.2 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:43 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      Wow so St. Rubio lied, go figure a GOPER not telling the truth.

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#24 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:47 AM EDT

                      But rubio should be speaking up for immigrants. Take mr grover & the gop in alabama. They threw out the immigrants & now they can't find anybody to work in their farms. New workers quit saying the sun is tooo hot while mr grover & the gop say there is no global warming.

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#25 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:48 AM EDT

                      Man they just wanted to see black people return to slavery times. I mean work like slaves.

                      • 1 vote
                      #25.1 - Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:58 AM EDT
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