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Subscribe to RSSAnita Perry, wife of Texas Governor and Republican presidential candidate, Rick Perry gave a personal and emotional speech that focused on faith at North Greenville University in South Carolina.
TIGERVILLE, SC - An emotional Anita Perry reflected on the "rough month" she and her husband, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, have endured on the campaign trail in a speech Thursday focused largely on faith.
The Texas first lady weaved together religion and politics in a speech at North Greenville University, characterizing her husband's decision to seek the presidency in August as a calling from God. Perry suggested her husband was being targeted for his evangelical Christian faith.
"It’s been a rough month. We have been brutalized and beaten up and chewed up in the press to where I need this today," she said. "We are being brutalized by our opponents, and our own party. So much of that is, I think they look at him, because of his faith. He is the only true conservative – well, there are some true conservatives. And they’re there for good reasons. And they may feel like God called them too. But I truly feel like we are here for that purpose."
Perry's campaign for president has foundered somewhat since its August launch. Poor debate performances and conservative scrutiny of Perry's record on immigration and other issues helped deflate an initial surge the Texas governor had enjoyed upon entering the campaign. The latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll put Perry in third place, at 16 percent, behind businessman Herman Cain and former Massachsuetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
Anita Perry got especially emotional upon recounting her childhood trips to church with her grandfather.
"My grandfather was the deacon in a Christian church and he made sure I went to Sunday school every Sunday because nothing made him prouder than for me to hear him in his sermon on Sunday," she said, before trailing off and bowing her head for about 15 seconds. "My grandfather still speaks to me today."
She likened Perry's decision to run to encountering a "burning bush," a reference to the Biblical story of Moses receiving a sign from God. And Anita Perry suggested that her husband's current difficulties were a "test."
"Last week, someone came up to Rick and gave him the scripture. He said Rick, I want to tell you God is testing you," she said.
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PSSSt First read - Holder got subpoenaed yesterday.
Psssssst Spanky. There you go again trying to change the narrative.
Yep, but here you are responding.
Besides I learned from the best - Feisty.
Go take a look at the First Thoughts thread. It was about certain topics, yet the old gal busted out of the gate with a diatribe about Joe Walsh, and not the Eagles lead guitarist.
So what's your point Torpedo? Does Forst Read set "the narrative" for you Torpedo?
If so you are missing out on a lot of interesting stories, and will be surprised by many upcoming events.
Fun, right?
Oh, boo-hoo, Mrs. Perry.
All of the candidates, including First Read's favorite son, President Obama, have taken heat and are going to take a lot more before this is over.
As a conservative, I'm simply glad that President Obama is no longer the blank slate that candidate Obama was in 2008.
We know what an Obama Presidency looks like and feels like this time around.
Judging from the right track/wrong track polling, the public isn't impressed with President Obama.
That said, GOP voters don't seem to be much impressed by Rick Perry, either.
Wait...
Hold the presses...
Holder was subpoenaed?
Nobody tells me anything.
Ya know, I caught that Feisty little hypocrite "off-topic" myself just the other day...shortly after she accused me of being "off-topic".
She's a hoot, isn't she?
"Last week, someone came up to Rick and gave him the scripture. He said Rick, I want to tell you God is testing you," she said.
Hell no, Anita. His deeds (by their deeds we shall no them) are bashing him.
Newsflash Mixed. The American public isn't impressed with ANY politician. .So what if Holder was subpenaed...The ATF has been dysfunctional for over 25 years. The culture hasn't changed from one administration to the other. That being said, if Holder is lying and had knowledge of Fast and Furious then he should resign..How bout that connies!
MIXEDBAG
I've never read you anywhere saying anything about the robots (Grover boys) in congress. Let's hear your candid opinion on this since want to go off-topic.
Spanky- Give this a shot too.
Gosh - I'd love to discuss that topic Torpedo, but some here get all pissy if you go off topic.
Not Feisty - cause she is my queen of off topic forays.
Hey, maybe First Read will have an article on Gun Runner?
Breath, holding....turing blue.
TY,
Good you didn't mention Axelrod or Plouffe...or Solyndra...
...WHEW...!
But hey, did you hear Koch Industries is being investigated for dealing with Iran? Oh, and toxic waste dumping at one of their petrochemical plants? B-I-G coverup, doncha know...heads are gonna roll...you betcha...
Neither did Spanky or MB...Spanky was too busy taking pot-shots at First Readers' wives, as well as taking a shot at Anna Molly because she dare point out his "inadequacies"...as for MB, he's too busy walking on the tops of Spanky's shoes to know what's going on.
PEN-24-
Pay attention.
My comment was "on-topic" and appropriately addressed the comments of Texas Governor Rick Perry's wife, Anita Perry.
But, I'm more than happy to offer my thoughts about Grover as well.
Simply Google the letter from Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) to Grover Norquist on the topic of ethanol subsidies.
He's (Coburn) my kind of conservative.
Check him out, PEN-24.
I have nothing to add to what Tom Coburn wrote.
In fact...I wish I'd written it.
Now you've heard something, PEN-24.
Here's the rub...can you understand it?
Anyway...
We're both happy, no?
I am.
lol
Lets hope someone told Holder.
Holder now has a choice. He can send the subpoenaed material over to Congress and effectively admit he perjured himself, or, he can get the Administration to claim Executive Privilege, which means he talked to the President about it, and Obama too knew all about the gun running operation.
You don't think Eric would throw Obama under the bus by asking for Executive Privilege, do you?
And perjury? So what (like AM says)? What's the big deal? Billy Clinton did it, and he's still a big hero with the Libs.
Time to MoveOn(.org)
"no them"?? freudian slip? Think about it. ;)
I think more Americans have a problem with Perry's religion than we do Romney's. Why? Because Perry is acting like his is better, and Americans just don't buy that BS.
Oh my, mouse...
You're face is still burning from our last encounter, isn't it?
Spank is Spank.
I'm me, mouse.
Come and get me if you think you're up to it.
Or, as AnaBanana suggested...
"Go have a drink, buddy!"
You might want to make it a double, mouse.
:-)
" I'd love to discuss that topic Torpedo, but some here get all pissy if you go off topic."
ha Ha Ha Ha......like YOU ever worry about what OTHER people post on here as pertains to YOU!
Whatta dork.
[You're face is still burning from our last encounter, isn't it?]
THere you go, giving yourself waaaay too much credit. But hey, someone has to give you credit, right? It sure ain't gonna be Spanky...he usually breaks his arm patting himself on the back.
Hmmm...I was just browsing your posts in your profile...seems you've had some really inciteful, thought provoking posts, once upon a time. Even some that even I could agree with. But I have noticed that they have degraded to personal attacks over the last month or so. So what gives? Are you out of "inciteful, thought provoking" thoughts so soon?
How disappointing.
Or is it due to the fact that you've been riding the tops of Spanky's shoes lately...
...oh yeah...hangin' with your peeps...like I said...
...YOU ROCK!
Spanks,
You didn't deserve to be collapsed. That was dumb. However you definitly need a drink! It's Happy Hour somewhere. Maybe not yet in our lovely California but somewhere . . .
You make it so easy for Spank to do what he does, mouse.
Hahaha - Little Ricky's still hiding behind the little lady's apron!
It's called politics Mrs. Perry and it's a contact sport!
Shame your 'shooting star' fell to earth faster then a broken satellite! lol
Up next - Mr. Cain!
It's hysterical watching the righties flair around looking for someone, anyone to save them!
I predict in the next week or two - Newt will receive his turn in the spotlight! lmao
When God called Rick, did he ask him/her for rain again?
A commentor over @ The Obama Diary caught a headline I think in California:
Herman Cain, 9-9-9
Perry, 9-1-1
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I still am not sure and perhaps a little confused about the rock incident at Perry's house. Was that a fair charge against Perry? I've been wondering that myself.
Her husband got tons of love at the beginning. But since he overtook Romney, the big guys had to come in and shut him down.
It's what they do.
I wouldn't vote for him. He's not my cup of tea. I read that Michelle Bachmann got booed in NH today.
Rest easy there old gal - we have found someone to save us.
Barack Obama came riding to our rescue and highlighted that Keynesian economics sucks, via the Stimulus. So good was he he even convince a bunch of democrats in the house and senate.
That cutting taxes is a good idea, by cutting taxes in 12/10.
That debt is bad and so is over regulation - he is all about that re: debt ceiling and has the gov. looking at needless regs. And his budget was so turgid hw literally got spit on by the entire Senate [97-0]. Yikes.
Oh and he highlighted to absurdity of green energy. Solyndra nuked the cause, as did the fact that no jobs have been created despite billions being poured down the rat hole.
So than you Onama for doing what us conservatives could not do - blowing up the very foundations of the libbie way of life.
Buckle up gang, it's going to be a rough patch for the next year or so. Hopefully he will throw in the towel and get the help WAPO claims he need.
So do tell us Spankster...Just where are we over regulated and how much of an impact does said "over regulation have on Jobs..Be specific now. Why don't we start with the FDA and the FAA or the ATF or the NTSB or perhaps OSHA.
Oh and one last thought...You do know that lotsa jet turbine blades are now being manufactured in unregulated Mexico. Ain't got no FAA or NTSB there. So next time you jump a jet think about it!!!!
I believe Gov. Perry's problems began when he said he didn't lose any sleep over innocent inmates possibly being executed. That is not good.
But the rock incident was a little sketchy at best from what I recall. And I have read that Gov. Perry has hired many many minorities through the years. That he wasn't at all racist.
So I wonder if the rock story was fair?
Feisty - I agree with your thoughts about Scary Perry and Mrs. Scary Perry.
I have a feeling, though, that Cain might last. I know his 999 plan doesn't hold up but there is something about him - I call it that elusive "it" factor - that is lacking in "itless" Mitt - whom I am now calling Mt! Cain is extremely personable - something definitely lacking in Mt - and most certainly lacking in Newt! As a Democrat, I think Cain is a possible contender.
What did she expect...they were going to lay down palm fronds as he approaches the podium? Politics is dirty! And I'm sorry but like the football players that thank God for touch downs...get real! He doesn't personally "call" these people! And I don't want to live in a Theocracy, religion is taking much too important a place in the governing of our country!
Torpedo - the over regulation goes across the spectrum, in all areas.
See brother I deal with a variety of clients, in many different areas and fields. ALL complain about over regulation.
But you don't have to take my word on it - even Obama has said as much. Why else is he having all the regulation reviewed?
Pat-
My take on the rock incident---a place leased by Perry's father with a racially charged painted rock/sign. If I went to somewhere with something like that, I would be offended but might not say anything (would like to think I would but as a guest I might not). But I sure wouldn't go there again and be a part of that kind of racism and Perry did. So that tells me something of his character.
I got to diagree with you on this one Monetfan - the powers that be will NEVER allow it...
Just look what they did to Perry...
They're gonna put all their eggs in the Willard basket, and pray like hell he can somehow energize the base! lol
Steeler, there is a lot of "bad" stuff out there left over from years gone by. Who painted over the rock, does anyone know? Have we seen it?
Can't be specific can ya Spank! Your argument doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Sorry to misinform, but here in the great state of Arizona..It is the local regs and agencies staffed by incompetent republican political hacks that have the greatest impact on my biz. Oh and BTW, connies have had a lock on this state at the legislative level for the last 30 years!
Road Trip! Let's all go down to Texas and look at the painted rock. I bet the locals know how long it was allowed to stay there.
Yeah, that's totally it, I can't be specific.
I can see you seek legitimate debate.
Always fun and amusing Torpedo.
Newty is jockeying for VP, he knows he could not do the job. So far his only speech and platform has been the famous, say it with me "Get President Obama Out"...
The right is running out of front runners, what are they gonna do next?
Well, Anita- it wouldn't be so rough, if your old man was worth two sh!ts.
Glad to see you can admit you have nothing but hot air Spanky. Must feel liberating!
FOOTBALL is a CONTACT sport; politics is not. Politics is mostly RHETORIC and the person who has the best HYPE at the time will win. This is verbage that politicians and you political junkies like to put out there to make it seem as though it is in the same category.
Look at Obama. Obama was never heard of until he made a SPEECH. (HYPE). Before he spoke at that convention, he was just a Senator from Illinois that was barely elected due to some shady dealings of his opponent.
Torpedo:
I guess if they were staffed by Liberals ALL of those regulations would go away. First you and your ilk say Republicans don't like regulations then you turn around and say Republicans are regulating you out of business.....WTF?
BTW: You can always do what my family did with our business. MOVE it to a better environment. We moved out of a liberal stronghold district to a republican district and business went up 50% and haven't looked back. The taxes are higher but business is a lot better and I have a good CPA and lawyer.
[Yeah, that's totally it, I can't be specific. I can see you seek legitimate debate.]
Bravo, Spanky! You totally nailed that one....way to avoid confrontation...LOL
Wow! Did Perry put that chain around his wife's neck?
And there is the rub...That's what's wrong with this country! It should be about WHAT regs and HOW those regs are enforced. So with that said ITM let's get specific. How bout we repeal the Gramm Leach Biley Act and Reinstate Glass Steagall and all the attendant banking regs that worked very well for over 60 years? After all you connies "want your country back" dontcha.
Frankly ITM from my perspective, America doesn't need more MBA's, lawyers, or accountants.
What we do need are more Scientists, engineers, physicians, and builders AND most importantly the educational infrastructure to support them. Right?
Amy, I wonder does he too have an account at Tiffanys?
Anita Perry should talk to our First Lady about slings and arrows from friends and foes alike. If you want to stay in the national game Anita, you'd better grow a thicker skin, you're not in Texas anymore. And her remarks rather underscore why he is sinking in the polls, they thought they could charm their way to the top, Texas style, all hat and no cattle.
They fell for the flattery of those that pay their way, both sides must feel let down.
Actually republicans themselves say that. Not Torpedo and his "ilk" meaning me. But do continue your rant ITM. It speaks to character.
Bryan
Strange how connies can never get to specifics..You would think that they would have CCFR on their desks for easy reference dontcha know>
I'm always amused by the far right thinking they are the only people who believe in God and the only ones God touches. Actually, if you look at policies, the Independents and Democrats are more Christian in their attitudes than the far right who hate everyone not just like them. I am doubtful that God called Perry or, if he did, it was clearly a wrong number.
It seems like she's really going for the sympathy vote for her husband to win the primaries. He's a good man that's had some tough luck and darn it, he deserves a break. Once he gets nominated, he'll do a better job speaking in public, we promise.
Highly doubtful...more like he's being targeted because of his own actions. And that's just by those in the GOP.
Mrs. Perry should worry more about the upcoming months...it's gonna get a whole lot worse for her and him the way he's staggering all over the issues. If Bachmann, Santorum, or Gingrich tie or overtake him in the GOP polls, you can put a fork in him. He's fading faster than Palin did.
Then he can return to his "pay for play" political agenda in Texas...until those voters get tired of his favoritism policies and boot his butt out of office.
I,ve been called by customers, bill collectors, lawyers, relatives, a friend here and there,and once, by a lady wishing to sell me some of her stuff for a mere 20.00. I have yet to be called from God. I would like to hear from God, especially since I have some serioius contentions with Him/Her about certain claims that have been attributed to this omnipotent being. Course being the respectful sort, I wouldn't commence ripping and cussing until I was convinced He/She really had anything to do with my aggravations. Otherwise I think I would be "awe stricken". I just cannot understand politicians claiming they heard it from God. I think there is craziness, or out and out lying afoot there.
I see that fata$$ redhead is still jealous of rick perrys wife because of her little crush on perry. Whats the matter fata$$ redhead? Are you pissy on account of the only thing that gets stuck in you is more McDonalds?
The "over-regulation" chant is clearly out of the Reps and Rove's play book. They would be happy to have NO regulation cause we all KNOW how well big biz polices itself and the industry...... NOT.
I have a small business and manage an even larger business. I can't think of ONE regulation I deal with that has any affect on my hiring or fireing short of some ill-advised things that big biz lobbiest have pushed through our state leg. Like outlawing an elevator jack even though NO reported troubles or accidents. Then there is the telephone I had to install in my two step chair lift for $1200 (an open lift that can only be used with an employee assisting). The rules were put in force by BUSINESS... through lobbying. Guess who handles the elevator inspections in our state???? An elevator manufacturing company who is always more than happy to sell you a new one.
Being a Christian who knows my Bible, I find it incredibly painful to see these wolves in sheep's clothing waving their Bible to establish peity.
"Last week, someone came up to Rick and gave him the scripture. He said Rick, I want to tell you God is testing you," she said."
How can it be that two supposed Christians can forget that the Bible said God doesn't test us. It's disturbing to see people -especially someone who seems to pride himself on executing lots of people whether or not they're guilty- constantly trying to hide behind the Bible rather than standing on their own two feet. Perry and his wife are very poor examples of Christianity. In my experience, the best and most devout Christians don't go waving aound the Bible: they simply live quiet lives of strength and dignity and their faith shows in their actions. Such is not the case with the right-wing fundamentalists and the Perrys
Just yet another example of how the Jesus... er... Republican Party loves their Messiah, but just can't stand his words.
"Blessed are you when people persecute you because of my name's sake..."
Combine that with "turn the other cheek" (there goes the military budget) and the "Good Samaritan/Socialist Health Care System" Jesus recommended, and you have a candidate who couldn't possibly win the Right's nomination.
Yep. Jesus just doesn't cut the American mustard.
Thomas Blue:
So, how do you explain Abraham? Was Yahweh just doing it for the lulz?
Thomas, I believe the Scripture is God will not 'tempt' us. We are tested and tried all the time...by a loving Father for our own benefit.
Saw a post of a great sign in front of a church. Said" Gov. Perry. God hear. The voice you hear in your head isn't me. Take your meds".
I think this says it all.
Does Herman Cain have anything valuable to offer on any of the other issues facing the country besides his 999 plan? I have heard him say the 999 plan will solve the jobs problem, but I haven't heard how that is supposed to happen. How, exactly, does it create jobs? What is his foreign policy plan? How about health care? The deficit? What is his energy plan? Immigration? National Security? What does he plan to do about the wars? IS there any there there?
The recent studies of the famous 999 plan is that EVERYONE will pay much more in taxes except the very rich and business. I guess Cain tailored it to fit his own situation. HE will just get richer.
Campaigning is hard.
like Presidentin' - Obama has had a rough few months.
And good golly but Debbie Downer got on national TEEVEE yesterday and said "we weren't elect to create jobs."
Really. Libbies - did you hear your DNC spokeswoman?
Now why does she say the exact opposite of what you believe?
Perhaps Team Blue is starting to get it?
NAAAA.
Spanks,
Best i can gather is the Debbie was trying the republican mantra on for size. Remember November 2010 was about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs? Or did i misunderstand it when they said November 2010 was about healthcare, abortion, states rights, etc...
And we all know that to connies "size matters."
Spanky - I DO vividly remember the GOP campaigning on creating jobs. Yet, they have gone after everything BUT jobs. Probably shouldn't throw stones while you sit in a glass house.
Spany I keep reading your post and they never change, always vague statement no substance very typical for a lawyer so not suprising. Yes I do know about lawyers, that is how the game is played. Do you think just once you can answer someone with valid and complete sentences that explain your point of view rather that just restating talking points. We already know you are good at that but as the question goes "wheres the beef" . Answering questions with questions thats the oldest ploy in the book, step up to the plate try honesty for a change.
[Do you think just once you can answer someone with valid and complete sentences that explain your point of view rather that just restating talking points.]
Uh oh...I can't wait to see the deflection on this simple question...
...this is gonna be good...right "counselor"?
Spanky - team whatever color the GOP is at the moment, will never get it.
Gee Spanky...while you're pondering these truths, you may ask yourself why Mitch McConnell would state that his top priority was to defeat Barack Obama instead of helping to creat jobs, stabilize the economy, end the wars, reform the tax code, or any of a dozen very imporant things that these worthless prostitutes n Washington should be focusing on? Bear in mind that this was said 1 1/2 yrs ago. Why also are the repubs now opposing ideas that they have long espoused? Why is it that the GOP would rather sit back and prevent the nation from healing economically than help the American people get back on their feet?
You might also ask why the GOP wants to prevent regulations that would prevent a repeat of the 2008 meltdown. Why do they want to give the banks carte blanche to f*** the rest of the country. They say that one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. So why would you want to keep the same conditions in place that led to the 2008 collapse of our economy?
Honesty - Lawyer = oxymoron
Spanky - Original thought = oxymoron
It's the same tired old personal attacks day after day.
Wow! Not one of you could answer spankys question or retort to his comment with an honest, viable answer! All any of you did was insult him or try the old"but what about the gop" spin. Not one of you could stop yourselves from answering without an answer. What a vine of useless garble from a bunch of useless parrots!!
[Wow! Not one of you could answer spankys question or retort to his comment with an honest, viable answer!]
Funny...I don't see your answer anywhere either...so bite me!
Oh, and by the way...
...tick tock...
Mickey: I wasn't one of the useless trying to answer his question. I see, however, that you were one of those useless.Get smarter, grow up, read my moniker and act accordingly.BTW, I think you meant sqwak, sqwak!
Wow, that post at 3.10 is more than a little scary. Take your garbage elsewhere!
Aw Poor Anita! Can't stand the heat in the kitchen little lady ---THAN GET OUT WEAKLING!
What, what?? Spanky claims to be a lawyer?
Wow. Romney is the one being attacked for his religion, but the Perrys have decided to play victim?
This reminds me of Mrs. Alito running out of the hearing room, sobbing, when her husband was questioned about his record before being confirmed to the Supreme Court.
Conservatives can dish it out, but they sure can't take it. Have we ever seen Michelle in tears over insults towards her husband? I dodn't think so.
PS every time that motorcycle guy jumps over the comments, I think it's Jon Huntsman trying to get into First Read!
Amy - loved the Huntsman comment - I'll never look at that ad any other way from now on! Also agreed with the rest of your post 100%.
I'm wondering how someone who says God called him to run for President would explain the fact that other people also say God called them to run.
it depends on how many gods they are talking to that day.
The part list of the gods:
Grover Norquest
Greed
Power
Koch Brothers
The job creators(LOL)
Wall Street
Big Banks
The list is to long.
Steeler;
God has a plan for everyone. He even has one for you non-believers.
There is nothing done in life without his knowing......we will all answer when the book is opened.
Middle:
Are you sure that isn't "noing"??
ITM........assuming a lot there, aren't you?
ITM,
Didn't God also say "Thou shalt not kill"? Would you agree that Perry directly disobeyed that commandment more than 270 times? Or how about "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor"? A certain cover-up comes to mind whereby an innocent man was executed under Perry's weatch as governor.
I bet FeistyRedHead is smokin' hot.
Actually, ITM, I am a believer but not an evangelical. I was asking in good faith because it is confusing to me that so many people could say God called him/her to run.
What I want to know is how did he contact them, was it email, IM, shining light, burning bush, or just a voice in you head.
@ Notea4...ummm....if you consider Phylis Diller "smokin hot", then yes, you would think red is hot as well...
InTheMiddle, TX
Boy, that alone explains a lot... but:
Translation: "I not only believe in a deity without evidence, I personally know for a fact exactly how this deity functions in my life AND yours."
Translation: "You better believe, or you're gonna get it!
Here: I'll quote your own holy book for you — "There's nothing new under the sun."
Good grief! If she's whining and sniveling now, can you imagine what she'd be like if Perry were a serious contender?
She needs to go to the gym more . . . . or something.
GOD speaks to Anita I suggest this lady gets professional help and fast!
Hey I mean GOD specks to the Taliban also.
I was scared before but now I am terrified.
You bet, with the body of a water buffalo and the face of a walrus with long red hair. But hot, hot hot
Oh. my.
This feeling - expressed by Scary Perry himself in other venues - that he was "called by God" to run is one of the reasons I call him Scary Perry. That, along with his creationism views which seem to strongly impact his global warming ideas, his statement that evolution is just a "theory," etc., etc. make me very uneasy.
I think Mrs. Scary Perry did Scary Perry much harm with her comments today.
To me it is a reflection on the Governors stature. Sending your wife to do your bidding in the eyes of the public makes him look weak.
I dislike perry as a candidate but having the candidate's wife speak on the campaign trail is as old as campaigning itself and hardly makes him look "weak". He does that all by himself. And enough of this calling from God stuff...we are not a theocracy...makes my skin crawl to hear any American ape the Taliban about what their God wants of them....
I guess Rick Perry doesn't even know how the stress of running for POTUS killed Andrew Jackson's wife.
Remember, Rachel Jackson.... Rick do your wife a favor and quit now!
There are already PLENTY of religious fanatics leading other countries. Certainly don't need any more in the world.
In this great country you are free to believe whatever voodoo you do, but once you try to start pushing those beliefs onto others thru legislation you are in the wrong.
ALL legislation is pushed with some kind of belief behind it.
No matter what guides a person to craft legislation; there will be just as many opposed as there are for. EVERYONE WILL NEVER be satisfied.
Hardly. One doesn't religion to push legislation...(unless you're a fundamentalist extremist that doesn't know where your religion stops and the constitution begins). All Americans need is separation...they don't need to be satisfied with a particular relgion.
ITM I am glad you have your faith, now allow others to have theirs, regardless, there is no place for religious beliefs in legislation that effects people of many faiths. No one should be making claims theirs is the true belief. faith by nature is not fact otherwise it would not be a faith in anything it would be a fact and not one religion is based in concrete fact but simply mans faith and we know all to well how man can twist faith. Want a list of preachers that have sined against their faith.
It appears we have a distortion of terms here. You are using "belief" in the same sense that I would use the term, "idea", or even worse, "data."
For example, many religious or 'metaphysical' types suggest that everyone believes. We "believe" in gravity, germ theory, and evolution... the latter of which is high-up on the creationist/anti-science totem pole of ignorance.
The term is only partially correct, and here's why:
I 'believe' the sun will rise tomorrow based on the years in my life I've seen such an event occur, plus a mound of data from multiple scientific disciplines that confirm the probability to be 99.999 (keep going for a few hundred pages) % in favor of said sun rising. This is much more than a "belief"—this is a mathematical probability in the highest order.
If someone pushes legislation on, let's just say... gun control... he/she/they have some data to back it up. Conversely, the opposing side has data to back up their claims to the contrary. While far from mathematical fact, statistical data is quite helpful at coming to the most reasonable conclusion at the moment. That's really all we can ask for once we put aside mathematics (at least within the confines of conventional reality.)
However, what no rational person says, except for the religious loons out there, are things like, "This should be passed into law solely because I believe it to be true in my heart."
Good luck with that in a court case.
You may be conflating politics and science to espouse 'belief' in the same way your religious mind accepts 'belief.' You really should try and and see that there's a clear distinction.
Too bad Ms Perry. It was your husband who decided that God called him to be president! You must have thought that this would just be all smooth sailing since God is on your side! Gov Perry is running on his record, and that ain't great. All the skeletons in the closet are tumbling out! What else did you expect? Those who live in glass houses.....
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
Was it God's calling when he initiated the Life Insurance scam on near death retired teachers in 2003? Or maybe it's God's calling that he is charging Texsas taxpayers $945,000 a year in rent because he and missy refuse to live in the Governors mansion? You Bible tumpers make me want to puke.
Brian,
First of all maybe you should look into your own employer. I guarantee most have an insurance policy on all employees with the company as the benefactor. This has been instituted by companies for decades. I take it your not in the business world so you just go along with whatever Mr. Slick Natural Sharpton and the rest of that band of fools tell you on MSNBC.
ITM...Are you smoking crack? Companies take out insurance policies only on their KEY people NOT ALL employees, AND only with their knowledge BECAUSE they have a VESTED interest. Otherwise it is against the law..Like me taking out a life insurance policy on you...Ya know sorta like that credit default swap thingy you connies like so much (which is still legal) that brought down AIG. Get it now?
So tell me ITM...how old are you? Can I take out a life insurance policy on you? Tell you what! I'll pay all the premiums and give 25% to your estate and pay your funeral expenses. Get the analogy now?
ITM,
What's wrong with the Governor's mansion again? I missed that part of your comment.
Torpedo:
I'm a business owner and employers do take out policies on employees. It is not public record as to whom is doing this. Employers DO NOT have to disclose this. Go research it. Go read up on Corporate Owned Life Insurance, Go read up on Lords of London, etc...
I'm probably old enough to be your daddy.
http://deadpeasantinsurance.com/which-employers-bought-policies-on-the-lives-of-employees/
This is just a sample and it is not against the law.
ITM...You are half right! But it does depend on the state. They are called "Peasent Policies."
This practice of taking out insurance policies on employees for profit is vile, immoral, insulting and an outrage.
It wasn’t enough that they outsourced jobs to India, or enough when they cried poor and downsized while paying their CEO’s 500 times what the average worker makes, oh, no…..not content with that they turned into ghoulish vultures preying on employees deaths.
So which side are you on ITM? Are "Peasant Policies legal in TEXASS?
Torpedo:
I don't have any grievances about this. Companies make an investment in employees. This will go on with Liberal and Republican business owners as long as it is legal.
Morals are something that individuals are shaped by depending on how they are raised. What is immoral to you, may not be immoral to me and vice-versa. It is easy to demonize somethig when you personally are not benefitting. That is why it is easy for politicians to put segments of society against one another.
I look at outsourcing as smart business. Make my product in India and bring it back here to sell. Blame both parties for this due to trade agreements, the worst signed during the Clinton era. Companies are in business to make money, keep stockholders happy (401ks, etc.), and make money and make money.
I have a restaurant so I'm not at liberty to move overseas but I did move from a low end (democrat stronghold for decades) district to a more high end (republican) area. If I could make the profits in that area of town, I would have stayed. A Democrat has represented most of that area since I have been alive and it looks the same today as it did back in the 70's with a different generation of permanent voting blocks.
Nice woman I'm sure, but God isn't calling anyone to run for the republican or democrat nomination.
I sure wish they would leave their religion at the door. Keep the faith, but lose the "God made me do it" stuff.
All this just makes me wonder what God thinks. Feed the hungry, heal the sick, somehow that message has been forgotten. That would make God a socialist.
I'd take socialism administered by God. NEVER trust socialism administered by man.
Why? Is it because socialism administered by man doesn't come with a Stone-In-Public option?
It's because I trust God to do it right. I have zero faith in any man to redistribute wealth or resources. Communism proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. The guy who administers socialism has his favorites, and he never lives by the dictates he issues down to the "proletariat" . As long as he is the bourgeoisie, he's happy with socialism. Obama and the Democrats are the bourgeoisie. Very philanthropic ... with someone else's money.
I prefer freedom. Only in God do I trust.
Then you trust in nothing.
Hey Anita Perry, if you don't want people to beat you up over stupid crap your hubby has done and said then don't put yourself out there.
Hey Anita,.....I don't know how "Rick" pulled off his "successful" campaigning in Texas and maybe that speaks to the level of intellect that he was dealing with in that electorate. You talk about the "Brutal treatment" that you're so upset about....I find this ironic after the treatment that the sitting President has been through, partially coming from good ole "Rick". To that end, I would suggest try getting the sympathy vote somewhere else now that you've had a little taste of Rick's own medicine. Plus, it amazes me that when someone such as "Rick" swaggers onto the scene and then can't back up his BS, it's always due to someone elses brutality or lack of professionalism, not his abilities, or lack thereof...To date, aside from a proven ability to hide behind your skirt, Rick has continually proven, on every level, he's an empty suit.....or, how is it you folks in "Texas" say..."All Hat and No Cattle"....in this case "Rick", when the saying fits, wear it .....Too bad Anita, your boy just doesn't pack the gear...
hey hey, I'm from Texas! The truth about the last re-election race here in Texas. Perry ran against this goofus Named Bill White (with all due respect Bill). There was a total lack of interest in the State, only 5 million of 18 million registered voters bothered to vote. Perry did not even carry the big cities, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin. He carried the small towns like she talked about where they are from, the kind of place that shuts down on Sunday morning for church and then the entire town goes to the Dairy Queen after.
And her talking about he did not even have plumbing, it is really a good thing then that by being Governor he has become a millionaire, I had no idea civil servant jobs paid so well!
Perry carries the Hispanic vote in Texas, even though they are historically democrats.
I have said it before, this country does not need Perry.
The people of Texas are uneducated idiots and Perry is no prophet from God
and their are no prophets in Texas...more like major Cults and kool aid drinkers...
I suppose his god told him to sleep with his chief of staff and his chef at the governors mansion....both males...while wifie looked the other way. Nothing worse than a hypocritical bible thumper and he tops the list.
ok, totally off point and I'm no Perry fan, but where do all these charges of supposedly secret homosexual liasons come from and why do you repeat them without proof?
who needs proof, this is true and ran rampant during his first election as governor, plenty of GOP around who widdled Anita down to staying and keeping her mouth shut about it, this is not the first time I've heard it, bad news trickles down fast in the legal world, and I mean lawyers....
just like I stated earlier the reason Perry is missing with wifey he's with his lover...
About Perry's "religion" and his recent prayer meeting in Houston, The New Apostolic Reformation, who claims to be modern day prophets and also claim that they, yes they cannot begin the rapture until they have control of the government and Rick Perry has been chosen to lead them to the rapture.
http://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god
On September 28, 2009, at 1:40 p.m., God’s messengers visited Rick Perry.
On this day, the Lord’s messengers arrived in the form of two Texas pastors, Tom Schlueter of Arlington and Bob Long of San Marcos, who called on Perry in the governor’s office inside the state Capitol. Schlueter and Long both oversee small congregations, but they are more than just pastors. They consider themselves modern-day apostles and prophets, blessed with the same gifts as Old Testament prophets or New Testament apostles.
The pastors told Perry of God’s grand plan for Texas. A chain of powerful prophecies had proclaimed that Texas was “The Prophet State,” anointed by God to lead the United States into revival and Godly government. And the governor would have a special role.
The day before the meeting, Schlueter had received a prophetic message from Chuck Pierce, an influential prophet from Denton, Texas. God had apparently commanded Schlueter—through Pierce—to “pray by lifting the hand of the one I show you that is in the place of civil rule.”
Gov. Perry, it seemed.
Well then Perry better hurry up and hustle himself over to the White House... today!!
I heard the new date for the rapture is October 21st...he's only got about a week.
These people had better stop playing God...because they are ALL evil bastards...they want to control and these Monsters use religion, they are no better than the Taliban
Vermont girl your intolerance is showing.
"The pastors told Perry of God’s grand plan for Texas. A chain of powerful prophecies had proclaimed that Texas was “The Prophet State,” anointed by God to lead the United States into revival and Godly government. And the governor would have a special role."
KSW - I have no tolerance for those who would allow themselves to be lead down a path full of mumbo jumbo. I expect everyone to use the brain and heart they were given and live a life full of caring and consideration for others. Mumbo jumbo is hardly necessary, I see it as nothing more than an argument to start wars and cause discontent. Keep the faith in your home and in your church....then we'll get along just fine.
I find it amazing, that Perry is running because of God's calling, but God sure didn't answer his prays to stop the fires and bring rain.
That's because Perry was out of state during most of those days.
I thought god told Palin to run...oh and he told Bachman to run..now Perry?Even god can't get it right
phew! I was starting to think people were really stupid enough to see Perry as anything other than what he is "All Hat and No Cattle" as Desertartist so correctly wrote (or is that typed?) Maybe now Perry will quietly slink off into the shadows.
Perry seems to like it in SC and Iowa, maybe we here in Texas can convince him to go there and run for an office after he loses the GOP thing going on...
I think somebody needs to get over herself. Sorry, Senora Perry, but this is what real politics is like. Your husband has had a free pass in Texas all these years because he has an "R" after his name. Welcome to the jungle.
If THIS just getting started, welcome to the showdown, is rough for her, SHE"LL NEVER MAKE IT. He can't debate and she can't not fall apart -- and it's just a warm-up! Perry put the nail in his own coffin and she should be grateful b/c she's a basket case. Get help and get control of yourself for God's sake. You have no problems compared to average Americans plus your husband doesn't hesitate to KILL innocents and loves bragging about his 234 premeditated executed. This is heaven for you now and whoa have you both got a lot coming to you you awful, fake christians.
As Rick's wife and as he told me the other day, we will go down to the Bush ranch and kiss a little butt. We will leave from Texas as Baptist, go to Massachusetts as Catholics, next to South Carolina as Methodist, on to Utah for peace talks with the
Mormons, stop in Vegas for some fun and get back to Texas in time to clean our guns. This is what we do to get the voters to see we are down to earth people that struggle just like everyone else.
I will vote for ABO-Anybody But Obama! Romney or Perry or Cain can do a better job than the idiot we have in the WH now! Besides all the lying he has done-20 yrs. Rev. Wright-didn't hear a thing, Transparency-pass healthcare in the middle of the night with only a FEW-even left out a lot of Dems., Lied about his mother's insurance-telling everyone on TV that she was NOt insured because of pre-existing condition, turn out when the book and investgation came out she WAS FULLY COVERED by her employers insurance! Anyone that would lie about their mother! Last week he lied about talking personally to a teacher with several degrees that couldn't find a job. When the reporters ask the teacher he said he DID NOT talk to him personally, it was in a group of people and he DOES HAVE A JOB! Geeze !! Obama has spent MORE money in 3 yrs. than Bush did in 8 Yrs. and was warned about Solyndra, but ignored all who said it was a bad deal and WASTED 1/2 BILLION o f the taxpayers money. Now we hear that there are several others he gave money to( Pelosi brother-in-law, friends, people who voted and gave him money) for solar projects totaling 36.6 BILLION IN LOANS! One being Sunpower Solar losing 1.2 Billion-about to go under-15 employees would make the cost $80 MILLION per employee when they fold and are expecting to! Waste, fraud and abuse in this adminstration worse than any on record!!!
like encountering a "burning bush"????
Oh, jeez. Not this again.
No pun intended???? LOL!
It's all about @!$%#head
Please, elect anything but an evangelical. I don't appreciate being told to live by their rules-it is Christian Sharia.
My Lord if you are whining about how rough it is and it's not even 2012. It is time to pack your begs and head back to Austin. Anita how about paying the people of the state of Texas back some of the $294K they paid for security on your personal trips.
MTATL671: It's actually closing in on $500K. Where do we send the invoice? Anita's gonna need a bigger shovel for all that manure she's putting out.