Mitt Romney will win the nomination. His only real opponent is Rick Perry, and Perry is going down faster than a wide stance republican in an airport bathroom.

The upside is that Romney has a better shot at independents than Rick Perry does. The downside is that Mitt Romney won't excite the base, and GOTV is all important. I think the downside is ameliorated by the Right's hatred of Obama; but that is what I thought about John Kerry when he ran against Bush.

"The faster they rise..."

I think a FROG could leap-frog Perry.

Whatta wanker.

Pfffft 3 lbs butter butt. Go Lions!

So spider it does not matter to you who we get for president just so long as it is not Obama, what a moron.

Any Repub who votes for Romney does their conservative belief a disservice, and is hypocritical at best. Seriously, they should vote for a true conservative, not a master flip-flopper. Cain, in the meantime, has actually defended President Obama by not blaming him for America's current economic problems, but those who are protesting against Wall Street's greed. You go on and raise Cain, my man! ;D

Obama 2012!

lol-

Larry O'Donnell showed First Readers how to get after Herman Cain.

Of course, Larry might be a white "liberal electoral racist".

Melissa Harris-Perry even confessed to some discomfort over O'Donnell's interview with Mr. Cain.

Not TOO much, mind you...

But, some.

lol

I do not know if Feisty is a racist, but she sure hates anything Republican!

Bernie

My thoughts exactly>>>

I believe they use to term this yellow journalism. By the poll numbers it would appear to still be anyones race as 29% of Republicans haven't picked a candidate yet. The actual poll results are listed below:
10/9/11 – Summary table

                   All adults   Leaned GOP
Mitt Romney            17          24
Herman Cain             8          16
Rick Perry              8          13
Ron Paul                7           6
Michele Bachmann        6           4
Newt Gingrich           3           3
Jon Huntsman            2           0
Rick Santorum           1           1
None of these (VOL.)   14           3
Other (VOL.)            *           0
No opinion             32          29

Cain lost my vote with his "blame yourself" comment. There are millions of Americans who are qualified and responsible for a professional job. When you have 100 applicants for 1 job it's an economic problem induced by ignorant leaders. You can only take responsibility so far before its out of your hands. I agree with Steve Jobs...never settle for a job you don't love.

Seeing that Ricks staged "Mormon is a Cult" event backfired I'm guessing he won't go there with Cain.

BTW - Secretly the establishment cringes thinking this guy has a chance, the public face they put on is BS.

This guy cooked pizza and hired part time workers to wait tables. Experience???

I think he is a secret Muslim. We can't have that.

Cain rises after saying, "if you don't have a job blame yourself". Wonderful !

@RobAstro -- It's a shame that you base your vote on one little sound bite taken out of context. I believe you will find he is not blaming those unemployed that are unemployed through no fault of their own. Also, I don't believe that Steve Jobs meant not to take a job even though it wasn't the perfect job. He just said don't settle. Continue to strive to do better. So, professionals with the elitist attitude that hourly jobs are above them need to get off their lazy, arrogant arses and pound the pavement.

Then after your comment comes three of the most ignorant posts from brains that are obviously not wired properly.

Herman Cain has a business leadership background that not one Demoncrat has ever had in 50 years.Even the Republithugs can't match Cain's experience when it comes to pulling big name business from near bankruptcy to solvency.Nobody who's here to criticize Cain can even begin to come close to achieving what this man has.So,all you naysayers out there take note;your bud Obammy has a limited number of days in office,and it's a very limited number.You and the Chinese had better get ready for a flip back to prosperity for the U.S.,otherwise,get ready for a revolution.Moron Mitt won't hold a candle.

@srsmith Of course I and many others can beat what Cain has done because we have ACTUALLY STARTED BUSINESSES. Cain was spoon fed everything he has by the Pillsbury family. He never created any business, never ran a small business, and simply did the biddings of a rich family for their large enterprise. How on Earth people are so clueless to think Cain has business experience is beyond me. Learn about reality, not the spin the media sells.

Okay, so if the race is between Cain and Obama, we're still going to be called racists no matter who wins.

Keith -894302
You're the one being mislead by the media hype. He may not have started those companies but he turned them around and made them sucessful. Have you read is bio? As thing stand now he's got my vote.

What is really funny is the number of people who think the President... any President... will change anything. Here are the two possibilities:

1) Obama wins again.

House and Senate Republican response: "GO F*** YOURSELF" - And they continue to say "No" to everything. Nothing get's done, nothing changes. Dems call them "obstructionists".

2) Republican wins.

House and Senate Democrat response: "GO F*** YOURSELF" - And they decide to act like the GOP and say "No" to everything. Nothing get's done, nothing changes. Repubs call them "obstructionists".

Seriously, everyone who thinks that changing the man in the white house will fix this country is a moron. All you conservatives need to go back to 3rd grade and take a US Government class again. WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DICTATORSHIP. The President, regardless of who it is, can do NOTHING without the House and Senate. And after 2010 I can guarantee you will not sweep those elections, so don't count on a filibuster-proof majority... it will not happen.

Keith, you make a n interesting accusation. However, I have not been able to find any proof of what you claim.

Yeah right like Cain will ever be pres. I'd never give that man my vote. I vote for obama again before Cain. But right now i''m leaning toward Perry or Ron Paul. Cain running a Pizza parlor isn't ike running thecountry. Forget it cain.

SAGG-are you for real? Where is that hope and change I have been promised. I have not seen my yet. The president promised-didn't he?

Maze-right it is written in the cards and Obama's house of cards has folded. LOL!!

Newly-

You're missing one key point; an actual leader can be effective regardless of the makeup of congress. Someone that is truly a leader can win the argument through his/her ability to persuade. We haven't had real leaders in office for quite a number of years.

Oh by the way Maze, you and your demo-RAT friends have a nice day.

nifty you just jinxed us. Obama is gonna win again. Damn it all. I voted for his lyin arse once but I ain't gonna be fooled again. No way Jose'

Glenn-

Did you seriously make that comment? You wouldn't vote for Cain because a "pizza parlor" is nothing like running the country, but you would vote for Obama again? Before being el presidente, wasn't Obama a junior senator and community organizer in Chicago? I would go for the pizza guy before an agitator.

In all seriousness, Ron Paul is the only candidate qualified to be president. Nobody else comes even close to having any clue about what's going on in our country.

Atlas -

Previous "leaders" who were able to get Congress to compromise did not have to deal with the kind of scum we currently have in the House and Senate. The precedent has been set: When your party is not in power, you oppose EVERYTHING they want to do until you get in power.

Don't expect this to change... humans naturally hold a grudge.

But I suppose you would like to continue to live in your fantasy world where a pizza parlor owner, or a religious extremist, will get everyone in Congress to hold hands and compromise. Then they can all use magic fairy dust to fly home and greet Santa as he comes down the chimney.

Eric-913730

Cain rises after saying, "if you don't have a job blame yourself". Wonderful !

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He is right, in a free country you are free to succeed or free to fail; it is your choice, and obviously some people made poor choices.

Go Herman go!!!! He has my vote all the way to the White House woo hoo!!!!!!!!

What I find interesting is that people focus on Herman Cain running a pizza company, but are either ignorant or ignore the fact that he's a banker. Yep, He was a director of the Federal Reserve Bank in Kansas City from '92-'96. He is NOT for the American people. He's a lie, just like Perry and Romney. Only Ron Paul has any integrity.

http://www.kc.frb.org/aboutus/leadership/kansascity-alumni-directors.cfm

Newly, very sad but true what you said. In this political landscape being in power and lining your own pockets is the objective rather than doing something that may benefit the american people.

fiesty says, Cain in the current flavor of the day... Thats a racist comment, I bet you wouldn't put flavor and a white candidate in the same sentence. I must give it to the moonbats as soon as Herman Cain leads a couple polls out comes their racial rhetoric. Moonbats are nothing more than backdoor racists.

The faster they rise... the harder they fall... lol

Amen to that!

Just look at the high hopes we had for the current colossal failure in office. el oh el

The reason why Cain surged is because the media started giving him air time after one Straw Poll. In the meantime, Ron Paul who as won by a landslide or placed 2nd in a half a dozen of the straw polls gets a media blackout.

I guarantee you that if Ron Paul was given the "wow he's really polling well, let's find out what this guy is about" media attention, he'd be in the top spot.

What that tells us is that people are generally easily swayed by what their media overlords tell them to believe.

Now for all those detractors that are going to say "not-electable, he's a kook, etc.", realize you're just being good little mindless unthinking minions of your media overlords and regurgitating there attempt to destroy the only candidate that is for true Liberty, Peace, Equality, Economic Well being, Ending Corporate Warfare, Ending the Police State, Ending Special Interests, Campaign Reform, No Taxes, etc.

No blackout? All lies? Check this out:

http://ht.ly/6SVln
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUsQBAs1k5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvibsyKLDSA&feature=player_embedded

Watch this Documentary on how Bush took a giant leap towards police state and ask yourself what candidate will fix the problems with the power of the POTUS and our Nation which Obama is furthering beyond Bush:

http://endofamericamovie.com/

Educate yourselves on the candidates (ALL OF THEM – FROM THEM - NOT THE MEDIA) and make an informed decision instead of being a puppet of the Left and Right Elite.

The faster they rise, the harder they fall......

Just ask Barack Oblahblah

Recently, Cain called the Occupy Wall Street protesters "Anti-American."

It is Herman Cain's statement that is UN-AMERICAN.

The first Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives the protesters - the right to peacefully voice their grievances.

However, with respect to the demonstrators and to promote the Right Wing's oppressive agenda - Cain tramples on the U.S. Constitution - by criticizing these brave women and men. This candidate is unfit for the Oval Office and he should not be America's Commander-In-Chief.

Cain flaunts his lack of concern for the economic, political and social well being of the "little people."

The Right's "Best people" display themselves - to be America's "worst" inhabitants.

Hopefully, Feisty's statement is correct..."the faster they rise, the harder they will fall."

Here's a quote that I could see coming from Cain:

The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous, in consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and we must harp on these slogans until the lastmember of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. ADOLPH HITLER

Pizza man leapfrogged slick Rick, Perry said Texans don't like Pizza ? That 999 is total Hogwash.

deborah-3074274
Here's a quote that I could see coming from Cain:

The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous, in consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and we must harp on these slogans until the lastmember of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. ADOLPH HITLER

Deborsh,

...you are right.

It is not difficult to image Cain speaking these words.

It is probable that he has already said these words.

However, he speaks the words only to the elite few - who FALLS Right as he does

LOL @ the people who have obviously never read what all this man has does. Keep regurgitating the "pizza man" line that MSDNC keeps feeding you. Get ready for a real black man to run. I had all but given up on his hopes of the nomination, but this is good news indeed.

Having digested ALL of the comments posted above, I can now better understand where all those degenerates "Picketing" wall street rather than the White House, evolve from. The " I want mine GIVEN to me FREE" without expending any of MY effort crowd are, Pond/Sewer Scum, where I went to school.> F. And yes, I USED tto consider myself a Damocrat!!!

For Pete's sake, look up this guy's bio. He was born in Georgia. For heaven's sake, doesn't anyone know that's a country in the once-upon-a-time U.S.S.R. Where is your birth certificate, Comrade Cain?

When he came to America, he took over a chain of pizza parlors and closed up half of them, throwing millions upon millions of productive American workers out of high-paying jobs.

He was a Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, a branch of the most evil banking cartel in the history of the world. Ask Ron Paul if you don't believe me. I really feel terrible saying this, but he is probably associated with the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, and is pushing for that New World Order.

He says he's a "National Baptist". Oh really? When you translate that into a foreign language, you'll discover it's an anagram for Reformed Hindu Separatist.

The 9-9-9 plan? How can you be so naive? If you'd pull your heads out, you'd see that it's really 6-6-6. That's right, the sign of something really bad.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Deborah

" Hope and Change" is a good example.

I believe that you can read anything in to what ever you want to, but, it didn't take Herman Cain to tell me that I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. It didn't take Herman Cain to tell me that there is nothing wrong with working your way up in this world. What makes everyone believe that they should start off at the top from the very beginning?? If you start at the top, where to do go from there? Why should a 22-year old feel that they should come out of college making $200,000.00 a year, when it has taken others that went to college years ago 15 years to get to where they are today? It didn't take Herman Cain to tell me that I wasn't ENTITLED to things in this life. It didn't take Herman Cain to tell me that I was responsible for myself and all of my actions - good, bad, ugly and indifferent, I owe not only my self but the world my accountability for each and every one of my actions; I would NEVER give up my self respect to ever think or believe that this world OWED me something, to believe that I am entitled to my fair share. Fair share of what????? It didn't take Herman Cain to tell me that people should get up off of their butts, find a job and earn your way in your life and in this world. My parents taught me that as a very young child. My parents taught me that when I took my toys out to play with I had to put them away when I was finished playing with them. My parents gave me an allowance when I was younger and I had to learn how to manage that money by living within my means. Maybe some of these people that are wanting others to share their wealth with them, maybe they should go back and remember some of the core values of life that I'm sure most of their parents tried to teach them. Or possibly, some of these people were taught by their parents that the only way to live is off the sweat of others and that is very sad!!!

Ray-4054460: Romney can teach President Obama about flip-flopping. No one else comes close.

Hahahaha Saggg.....that might by the most blatantly obviously partisan thing ever said on first read. Can you tell us how many promises Obama made during his campaign, then list how many he did the exact opposite of? Then we can compare to Romney. Trust me, Obama wins in a landslide. Gitmo? Patriot Act? Ending the wars? No more torture? No more cronyism? Transparency? LOL sure.

Bob Jones-3591206

fiesty says, Cain in the current flavor of the day... Thats a racist comment, I bet you wouldn't put flavor and a white candidate in the same sentence. I must give it to the moonbats as soon as Herman Cain leads a couple polls out comes their racial rhetoric. Moonbats are nothing more than backdoor racists.

OH please, Boehner is tangerine flavor isn't he?

Here's proof of exactly what I'm talking about in 1.44, with respect to the Media Blackout of Ron Paul and the new anointed one of the Ministry of Propaganda.

Ron Paul won that straw poll by 14% FOURTEEN PERCENT OVER CAIN. But who is the media going to talk about?? Not Ron Paul....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WorClR-INVE

You people should at least do some research on Dr. Paul and hear his positions from him directly, because the disinformation many of you regularly regurgitate on the vine is indicative of Lemming-like behavior and is going to get us a POTUS that will do nothing to end, but rather use:

A media that operates with complete bias and purposely tries to sway the public opinion.
A Presidential office that can legislate using executive orders.
A Presidential office that can declare wars without congress.
A Presidential office that can execute Americans without Due Process
An Intelligence agency that can monitor all activities of a citizen without a Search Warrant.
A Police force that is increasingly being militarized. (e.g. the NYPD that can now "take down planes")

Gharms

LOL @ the people who have obviously never read what all this man has does. Keep regurgitating the "pizza man" line that MSDNC keeps feeding you. Get ready for a real black man to run. I had all but given up on his hopes of the nomination, but this is good news indeed.!

#1.51 - Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:25 PM EDT

Gharms, if Cain was a "real black man" - he would not pursue the Right Wing agenda that he loves.

African Americans have been victims of legalized slavery, Jim Crow laws and lynchings.

African Americans continue to experience racial discrimination in education, employment and housing.

The reactionary policies that this candidate is pursuing would significantly increase the disenfranchisement of Blacks.

Cain has climbed the ladder of success.

Now, he wants to snatch that same ladder up - so that it is not available to others.

Cain has forgotten this country's history.

P.S. His "outrage" over the "bad" word that had been painted on the rock at Rick Perry's camp - was probably more political rather than a true sense of indignation.

LOL do I get to toss the race card around now? Back to your pen with the other libard sheep 25walker.

Gharms,

I will not lose ANY SLEEP over your choosing to keep your head in the sand.

When the GOP and the Tea Party totally economically bury you - you will try to raise your head up and open your eyes. Best to you!

Gharms, if Cain was a "real black man" - he would not pursue the Right Wing agenda that he loves.

So in essence 25Walker, you're saying that a black person is genetically pre-disposed to own a certain opinion? You can't be 'officially black' unless you espouse a certain political philosophy??

Hmm ...I know what some people might call that - but I think the word is overused already.

Oh yes, why on earth would Black people want to be Republicans when it was Republicans that finally ended slavery and passed the various Civil Rights Acts over the centuries.

"History shows that Democrats fought to expand slavery while Republicans fought to end it. From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. Republicans fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans also passed the civil rights laws of the 1860's, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks.

It was Democrats who started the Ku Klux Klan that became the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party to lynch and terrorize Republicans-black and white. Democrats passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws and fought every piece of civil rights legislation from the 1860’s to the 1960’s. Shamefully, Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws, and when the Democrats regained control of Congress in 1892, they passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right laws enacted by Republicans. Republicans founded the HCBU’s and started the NAACP to counter the racist practices of the Democrats. It took Republicans six decades to finally enact civil rights laws in the 1950’s and 1960’s, over the objection of Democrats.

It defies logic for Democrats today to claim that the racist Democrats suddenly joined the Republican Party after Republicans—including Republican Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.—finally won the civil rights battle against the racist Democrats. In fact, the racist Democrats declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than vote for a Republican, because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks.

Undeniably, during the civil rights era of the 1960's, it was the Democrats who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protestors were fighting. Democrat Public Safety Commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor in Birmingham let loose vicious dogs and turned skin-burning fire hoses on black civil rights demonstrators. Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox famously brandished ax handles to prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant. Democrat Alabama Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama schoolhouse in 1963 and thundered, "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever." In 1954, Democrat Arkansas Governor Orville Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of a Little Rock public school.

Historical records show that it was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who established the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, enforced the desegregation of the military, sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate the schools, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Eisenhower also supported the civil rights laws of 1957 and 1960.

Little known by many today is the fact that it was Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois, not Democrat President Lyndon Johnson, who pushed through the civil rights laws of the 1960’s. In fact, Dirksen was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964, 1965 and 1968. Dirksen wrote the language for the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing.

Omitted from discussions today are significant facts about the struggle to pass the landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act. The law guaranteed equal access to public facilities and banned racial discrimination by any entity receiving federal government financing. The law was an update of Republican Charles Sumner's 1875 Civil Rights Act which had been stuck down by the Democrat-controlled US Supreme Court in 1883.

The chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act were Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd. Senator Byrd, a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, filibustered against the bill for 14 straight hours before the final vote. Former presidential candidate Richard Nixon lobbied hard for the passage of the bill. When the bill finally came up for a vote, the House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 124. 80% of Republicans in the House of Representatives voted yes, and only 63% of Democrats voted yes. The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats in the Senate voting no, and only 6 Republicans voting no. ..."

http://www.echoesofenoch.com/Civil_rights_history.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Republican_Party

Oh Snap!!!

Love it Kate, thanks for that.

Mr. Miller-447368

Gharms, if Cain was a "real black man" - he would not pursue the Right Wing agenda that he loves.

So in essence 25Walker, you're saying that a black person is genetically pre-disposed to own a certain opinion? You can't be 'officially black' unless you espouse a certain political philosophy??

Hmm ...I know what some people might call that - but I think the word is overused already.#1.64 - Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:57 PM EDT

Mr. Miller,

Any African American person who advocates for policy changes that would effectively and totally economically, politically and socially disenfranchise the ethnic group that he is part of - does not have a true appreciation of the blood, sweat and tears of the African Americans that died so that all people - including African Americans would have an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY for advancement in America.

The GOP'sand the Tea Party's reactionary policies have snatched the vote away from thousands of Americans. These extremists want to eliminate the minimum wage, smash unions, crush Medicaid, annihilate Medicare and give Social Security to "robbing" fund managers.

Herman Cain adheres to the above policies. Please explain how these brutally inhumane positions that Cain would like to see enacted as law - would work to benefit the collective African American Community?

And let’s not forget Cain's ridiculous tax formula of 999 - that is a 9% flat tax rate on business, a 9% flat tax rate on income and a 9% flat tax rate on consumer purchases.

The current tax rate for the wealthy - is currently a maximum of 15% on Capital Gains.

Cain's 999 formula would lower the tax rate for the wealthy.

By pushing his "lets make the wealthy - wealthier" policies - Cain is working against the ethnic group that he belongs to.

Importantly and most disturbingly, Cain is trying to legislate policies that would make economic and polical mobility - impossible for the majority of Americans - including for African Americans.

Because of GOP policies, many African Americans that were solidly classified as the middle class - are now struggling in poverty.

It is not a sane or humane person that would want to see their own ethnic group economically further sink.

Like it or not - Cain has climbed the ladder of success, he does not identify with the suffering and the discrimination of the collective African American community - and he has forgotten his roots.

It is disgusting that Martin Luther King Jr. and other Civil Rights Advocates gave their lives - just so Cain and his ilk could form a nest of "freedom snatchers" and roll back all of America's civil rights gains.

I hope that Cain completely fails in his bid for the White House.

Here is additional information on this unfit political candidate that you are supporting:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Herman-Cains-999-tax-plan-cnnm-976918316.html?x=0

REB- don't NEED anybody to run against BHO.

Cinch.

Cinch to lose you mean. Your guy hasn't had a thought that doesn't include raising taxes on somebody else to pay for give aways to his pals and supporters all of whom have probably never paid any income taxes in their lives. What a way to govern.

Trying to create jobs and patch up the economy is 'give aways' to pals"? Really? Who knew...?

Certainly not you! Your concept of job creation astounds me if you agree with Obama, especially in this time of economic uncertainty over healthcare costs, taxes, new regulations etc. The president has caused all of this uncertainty with his "vision" of a European America. It hasn't worked over there so why would it work here?

REB......more like a drive by accident! The more noise they make the more worried they are! You dont have to be Carnac the magnificent to see their angst!

REB, here I thought he wanted a communist america or was it a socialist american now it is a european america. Lets try next country for 500 please

I would really like to know what regulations Tea/Pubs refer to and the specific parts of the legislation that is causing business so much grief. The Dod - Frank bill is so watered down its impact is just peripheral. Wait so we pass legislation that prevents banks from ripping off customers and that's job killing? We stop the financial industry from charging you for services not provided and somehow they have to do something else to make up for monies that should not have had in the first place?

The same with Obamacare. During the debate we watched as healthcare costs soared and still are, millions of people dying everyday needlessly, and all we can say is if you get sick die quickly. What a Christian Nation we are huh...?

REB uncertainty over health costs, take the profit out of healthcare, its a shame to make a profit over someone's sickness & pain. To me healthcare profits are blood money. Also tax cuts for the rich & cutting programs are not the answer for job creation. They extended the bush tax cuts & mitch the turtle(r-ky), said that would bring jobs, thats been 9 months ago WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!!!!

Funny how some folks that claim to be "independent" appear from their writings to be farther right than George Wallace...and it doesn't take Carnac the magnificent to see that!

Smitty-4183671

They extended the bush tax cuts & mitch the turtle(r-ky), said that would bring jobs, thats been 9 months ago WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!!!!

You are not the only one that has been asking that question for the last 2 3/4 years - WHERE ARE THE JOB??? Well, like Obama said many months ago while laughing , "Those shovel ready jobs aren't as shovel ready as we thought they would be." Go ask Obama AGAIN - WHERE ARE THE JOBS??!!! Are those shovel ready jobs ready... YET??!!!!!

Ron/Smitty

Realistically who is going to become a doctor if everything is free and they make peanuts for all their time in school let alone the cost of their education? Who will develop more new surgical procedures, drugs/medicine, artificial limb technology if everything is free? I could go on but you get the picture.

You must remember that we are a country of 308 million with a 9.1% published unemployment rate. Places like Denmark (5.5 million and 7.4% unemployment rate), Sweden (9.4 million and 7.7% unemployment rate), Canada (34.5 million and 7.2% unemployment rate), UK (62.4 million and 7.6% unemployment rate) don't come close to our population in size and are fully invested in socialist style health care plans and have been for years. These are your ideas of where we should be going but these people are going broke too and their health care is suffering. If it doesn't work there what makes you think it will work here?

Smitty you ask where are the jobs? A good question - Jeff Immelt has over 60% of the corporation of GE outside of the country. Ask him why he would rather build a plant in China or Brazil rather than in New York, Mass, Illinois etc. He won't tell you over-regulation or uncertainty about employee costs due to Obama care but that's what he's thinking. Will he tell you that the unions have outpriced themselves from the "middle class" jobs? No but that's what he's thinking. Will he say he doesn't want to have problems like Boeing has in South Carolina? No he won't but he is not even considering building in the U.S. so what does he care?

I know you will disagree with me but those are the facts my friends. You need to get the government out of the way, allow companies to repatriate their overseas money back to the U.S. so they can invest it here and not there and then you'll see where the jobs are.

You would think that the Bush tax cuts coupled with Reagan economic policy would have ensured that the economy was NOT cratering when bush left office... shedding 700,000 jobs per month. But the Republicans and Democrats decided to continue both the tax cuts and the same economic policies that we now have 30 years of data showing they don't work. We need a balanced approach to our budget and deficit problems and blaming uncertainty and regulations for the lack of jobs is just plain wrong. The average small business (look at your Mom and Pop stores down the street) have had 4-10 employees for as long as you can remember. That's how they get by, small staff, local patrons. The shedding of jobs is being done by huge corporations that can do more with less by outsourcing. These jobs were not lost due to uncertainty and regulations... the tax code allowed these behemoths to profit from shedding jobs. These jobs are NOT coming back and the United States is in NO position to do anything about it. We are in decline. There are no forward-looking leaders in either party since they get all their money and power from keeping things just the way they are. We have the country we deserve because we have the politicians we elected. When our politics is driven by the needs of the country and not the needs of the lobbyists, then we will be able to move forward. It will happen in any of our lifetimes.

Very good REB. You are 100% correct. All these feeble minded people think corporations go over seas just to screw the American poor and middle class. About time someone came up with a few good reasons why business is leaving.

Voting.....30 years showing they don't work? The last 30 years have been the best years this country has ever seen. Until just recently the USA has been the undisputed King Of The Hill. I know of no other country or social/economical system that has done better. If you do......please tell us whom?

Reb has a point, tho. If Perry wins the nomination, part of the GOP and all those indys will be forced to choose btw another 4 years w/Obama or another 4 years with GWB, part deux. If Cain or Romney are selected, all those closet bigots in the religious right will have either the black dude or Mormon dude on the ticket, so they must decide if they are even going to show up to vote! All 3 alienate too many people. GOP needs to figure out who can carry the most votes COMBINED of all those who are Obama-opposed.

Reb -- it seems obvious that neither health care system has worked and is facing obstacles. However. shouldn't the American public be entitled to the same tax payer funded quality of health care as are the members of congress?

You mentioned GE and monies not being invested in the US because of over regulation and labor cost being cheaper overseas. I propose to you that trade agreements with China, Brazil, Mexico or any other developing country have hurt american labor and the american middle class and only benefited corporate balance sheets. It is impossible for american labor and the american middle class to compete with these developing countries work forces as long as the cost of living in these countries is substantially less than it is in the U.S.

Based on your line of reasoning, wouldn't the jobs created as a result of repatriation have to be at the same wage levels as in those developing countries for those corporations to have an incentive to actually produce in the United States? Thus, wouldn't the wages and salaries be below a level to sustain a family or at the very least the current standard of living?

JrSub

Congress pays about $470 for family coverage /month. Pretty much a very good cover but not significantly different than what others pay with employee subsidized programs when you work for a big company. I pay about the same (slightly more) but I am not the government.

As for the trade agreements you mention, the president just sent over 3 more to the Congress for them to approve as part of his Jobs bill. Are you against them too? I agree with you that it is impossible for american labor and the american middle class to compete with these developing countries work forces as long as the cost of living in these countries is substantially less than it is in the U.S. I suggest you move there if you feel you can't get a good job here. Whose fault is the high cost of living here? Possibly an over-regulating government that drives the prices up? Possibly the unions that have driven the jobs cost to unrealistic heights and expectations? I don't know for sure but that is something for you to look into.

I see in your last paragraph that you see nothing wrong with leaving those jobs overseas because having them here wouldn't allow you to make the money you think you need to live well or to make the money you think you deserve for doing those jobs. Right now you are making nothing which in my book is substantially less than those jobs are paying wherever they are. Think about it - wouldn't you like to have a shot at getting one of those jobs or would you rather sit at home and gripe about "The Man"?

I'm glad to see Governor Big Hair crashing and burning. It warms my heart and brings joy to my soul to watch this nutjob implode. I've supported President Obama since before he announced his candidacy. However, I've grown disappointed with him recently. There really is no one running that I like, but will probably vote for President Obama again, but without much entusiasm. I find Herman Cain's 999 plan to be interesting and would like to see it scored by the CBO. I hate our tax code now and would love to see it replaced by something less burdensome and more simple. I still feel the rich should pay their fair share, which they currently do not pay, but I would like to see all of the deductions and loop holes go away.

Boy, don't see too many posts pertaining to Cain...I believe the article was about his surge in the rankings. Oh well, we'll see him on the ticket...can't wait!

Herman Cain 2012!

Cantakeitnomore I don't know how old you are but I do know Cain is the MAN. I too was sucked in by Obuma but my black friend of 35 years told me not to vote for him. He knew more than me. This county must return to the work ethic and Mr CAIN has it. I am 75 and still running a rental business. I have watched this country go down the tube for over 50 years. The problems run deep we must do away with welfare and SSI. and BIG gov. If we don't we will be in the same shape as Russia was years ago. Keep your guns and Obuma want's to take them, so did Hitler take them from the Germans. Sorry Vince but If you vote for Obuma and he wins you will be in chains and your children If you have any. DO YOUR RESEACH

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

"The faster they rise... the harder they fall... lol"

Tell that to Obama when he loses next election.

Those still clinging to Obama are delusional. Half of those who voted for a pig in the poke, got poked. The other half are on welfare and always have been. The smarter of the delusional have figured out that the screwed themselves and are jumping ship.

I am a but surprised that Feisty is down to one liner's with the hate speech. Maybe she could come up with an argument once in a while to spice things up.

cantakenomore

"Boy, don't see too many posts pertaining to Cain...I believe the article was about his surge in the rankings. Oh well, we'll see him on the ticket...can't wait!

Herman Cain 2012!"

The only thing you will see on MSNBC are haters of anyone except Obama or receiving a welfare check, but then I repeat myself. All 15 of them are shills of MSNBC and none work.

Do the NONE WORK CLASS add to the unemployment numbers? No.

Do the working class add to the production of tangible assets? Yes.

How many HAD to die for others to succeed to include Cain? (And, I don't mean in wars.) Do you think 7? 12?

Republicans need to put their money away. Save it. Or, go spend it someplace except on an election.

1. Strengthen their morality! There's enough money in the illegal drug trade to employ everyone in this country. Add in prostitution. Illegal gambling. Money laundering. Add it up and pay off the national debt.
2. Too many talking heads. Too much social networking. Too much internet. Too much talking on the iphone, cell phone. All sums to too much nothing.

Sum 1 and 2. There's your money.

The only thing you will see on MSNBC are haters of anyone except Obama or receiving a welfare check, but then I repeat myself.

So you're saying you support Obama? Or are you receiving a welfare check? You did say that only haters of anything but Obama are here and you are here. So....

Devil girl, Didn't Obama put a bill on the desks of congress with job proposals over a month ago? I remember hearing a couple of teanuts saying its not a bad bill and they like some of it but look, nothing another NO from the teanuts. Whats the hold up on that? Now with a new congress Obama might just be able to do somethiing for this country. With the teanuts having a 17% approval raiting I think Obama will have a new congress and things will get better. Then weren't the teanuts supose to get some jobs going? Didn't they say that when they were running? Then the tax break needs to go too, its temporary so its done with when a new congress goes to work. Its a shame the repubes don't have anyone running this time, don't look good for the ones they do have, lol.

Just read what Cain thinks of Social Security. He wants to have the Local Government, and the Church take it over. Does that not sound like a total disaster eh? Cain sounds like a typical Teapartier. Throw Grandma into the street.

And thats my opinion.

It's Ron Paul or no one...Cain doesn't even realize the bubbles and busts of the economy are caused by the Federal Reserve he used work for (headed the K.C. FED).

Economic ignorance? No thanks. Cain supported TARP.

Can we stop allowing the media to force feed us candidates who didn't predict the economic collapse and want war with everyone? PLEASE?!

Ron Paul not only predicted the economic collapse because he understands economics, but wants to stop the war machine. How many of YOUR candidates (sarcasm; they are the media's candidates) predicted that? How many of them want an end to wars, torture, and airport butt grabs?

I fear the public is just too ignorant NOT to choose an ignorant candidate for both Parties...we sure did last time.

Drive-by Observer, Trying to create jobs? Like Solyndra? If obummer just gave the money he spent "creating jobs" to the people out of work they would be RICH.

Of course the jobs he has created so far are all in expanding government agencies, NOT in the private sector.

"Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money" That appears to be something Obama is incapable of understanding

driveby - you are setting yourself up for the same disappointment (and shock) I felt in 2004 when the Democrats failed to offer a sufficiently attractive alternative to the Mussolini/Montezuma scale disaster of the Bush years. I look forward to another four years of Barack Obama's responsible leadership.

I support President Obama, he has done a great job digging America out of the ditch, had he not introduced the stimulus we all would be under. Just say Congress is going to be responsible for the collapse of America. I believe in order to move forward and rebuild the economy you need fresh ideals, intrastructure, job training for high tech jobs and leaders with one objective,Lets Keep America great. It shouldn't matter what the color of skin may be. Jim Crow died. I am a black woman; I will not go back. I would rather meet Jesus.

@Purnell Meagre Jr.

"I look forward to another four years of Barack Obama's responsible leadership."

I'm still looking forward to the first one.

Thank you for a fair, calmly stated comment. It seems we don't get many once politics is mentioned.

Good thing you have a job. Good thing he had a job that paid well. Of course its just being lazy is why we have high unemployment right. We do not need more jobs just people who will work the ones we have right. Please stay behind Cain for a long time, we will forget you shortly

I know you have a hard time realizing this, but there are jobs out there. We have a lot of people who think their jobs are coming back, they are NOT and unless they retrain and focus towards those jobs they will continue to be unemployed! I have over 100 req's open for top level design engineers and I have only been able to find 4 who are qualified. 1 is from Slovakia, 1 from India and 2 Americans. There are a lot of people who can take direction and are qualified 2nd level engineers but we have enough of those people. Peers of mine all across the US are saying the same thing, we need qualified people.

TTS

Out of the mouths of babies comes the truth. Nice of you to see it.

Cain makes sense and he has a actual plan and explains it every chance he gets. That doesn't sound like a politician does it? He comes up with solutions. wtf? I don't like President Obama and I think he has made a bad situation worse so according to the left I am a racist but I would vote for Cain, so now what am I?

Watt75; The 999 plan seems to come up short on revenues to run the country, according to one news commentator, he said the actual figures does not work out, If that is the case you and him are wrong!!!

Yup: He Called them brainwashed LOL

economykiller The republicans are going to have a hard time with the commie occupy crowd. What I find interesting a republican teabag standing behind a black man. Now I don't have the facts on that but its sounds you would not have done that before.

Ron in Seattle: "millions of people dying everyday needlessly". The average daily mortality rate in the US from ALL CAUSES is slightly over 6500. Why should I believe that anything you say has any validity when you are prone to such hyperbole?

Smitty, you libs just can't accept the fact that TEA Party members ARE NOT RACIST. I realize that your ilk is confused that Herman Cain is very well liked by Conservatives (that is the operative word). You throw the race card when you can't conjure up a cohesive arguement why we can't continue to borrow $.40 cents of every $1.00 dollar we spend on government programs we can no longer afford. Most of us Conservatives would rather Condi Rice instead of John McCain run against a newly elected, unvetted, inexperienced Senator from Illinois in the 2008 election. TEA Party racist? That only flys in a group of desperate Democrats that continue to read their own press because they've LOST the debate.

ssmithlg Where do you say I use the race card. I used that mans words. Go back and read them. I just said I found that interesting. So get your panties out of that knot. Now I don't know the facts but the way you say I dropped the race card makes me wonder about you, a little touchy now huh. Remember I don't know the facts.

soul, therein lies the problem: you are expecting the perfect candidate to walk in the door. Even IF America retrained en masse, at best we are going to have a nation of entry-level engineers and health professionals, not the senior professional you are looking for. Back in the day, a company would hire then train, but seems that post Great Recession, corps are looking to stockpile cash instead of training who they need to do what they need them to (then whining about how they can't find their Mary Poppins)

How can you "not like" Obama? Have you met him? How does bad judgment correlate to being a bad person? Do you have any evidence of his malicious intent?

Seriously, we do not need hotheads like you voting.

I can not stand the instant gratification of this country.

As someone voting Republican I can truthfully say it's ignorant, simplistic, and racist to think "it takes a black man to beat a black man".

Welcome to the mentality of most of the racists in my Party's primary.

How about we pick the guy who actually predicted the economic collapse, not someone who supported TARP and headed the K.C. FED (I mean, the Federal Reserve is responsible for the bubbles and busts in the economy afterall)?

Another RINO being spoon fed to the masses, while they do ZERO research and just root for packaging (looks; in this case skin color, in Romney and Perry's cases it was their attractiveness) over substance.

It's Ron Paul or no one. I, like most Ron Paul supporters, will vote third Party and watch the Democrats win again if you Republicans don't get your heads out of your rears and actually RESEARCH these RINOs!

Please - Cains 999 plan sounds like a pizza deal and will not accomplish what he claims economically. This is all a moot point, the best he can hope for is VP behind Romney and Romney won't do that because he will already have lost the evangelical votes and the replublicans that won't vote for a black guy that close to the presidency, which is basically all the southern states....

You get respect because you followed orders and killed people, are you sure it is respect and not fear. People should like you for who you are not what you do or did. Thats not respect for you as a person but respect for what you did. Big difference

I highly doubt that any of jollyoldsoul1's neighbors are afraid of him. I bet that they respect his sense of duty and honor in having volunteered to defend this nation.

nice way to make a deflection, since you dont really know me! But fear is a healthy response, its actually one of the basic human reactions that keeps us safe. You do not live in Detroit, look it up chicken butt! You would more than likely not make it 1/4 mile down my street. I have friends everywhere and I mean everywhere globally and love a lot of people in this world. Yep I did my job as a member of a military team and received more back in feeling that I am a real part of this country and not one that opens my mouth with out giving something back. Gasp!

TTS

If that wasn't the dumbest thing you have written lately, it certainly is in the top two.

TTS,

So you have no respect for the very people that sacrificed everything so that you could sit on your big butt in front of computer and spread your hate? Wow I always seem to find a new low for humanity on these blogs. You take the prize...peace out buddy!

I'm glad you like somone who hates muslims and thinks the Federal Reserve didn't crash the economy...great...another person who likes personality and packaging over substance.

Tell me, did Cain predict the economic collapse? No, he didn't. Did he support TARP? Yes, he did. So you find a RINO pleasant...great.

It's Ron Paul or no one...will you at least research the candidates!?

BTW, Ron is a veteran.

The TPGOP amaze me on a daily basis. They skip through life like these candidates of clowns are actually capable of running our country. Caiin is an arrogant, loud mouth hater. The ONLY candidate that makes any sense is Romney and they don't like him because he isn't conservative enough for them. That's why ALL OF A SUDDEN being a Mormon is a problem. They will pick them off one by one till they THINK they have found their puppet.

Deborah you are so blinded by your love of an inept man pretending to lead this country that you wouldn't know a good candidate if it bit you in the ass

You have no idea what I think but let me fill you in. I am independent and I'm not a huge fan of Obama but what I am is NOT a fan of is fanatical TPGOP. Obviously one of the TPGOP candidates of clowns have bit you on the ass for you to think that ANY of them are not worthy of running our country. Bauchman has already had her 15 minutes as well as Perry. Romney is getting more than 15 minutes and now its Cain's turn. He will be outed soon - who will be next? From Strawberry to vanilla and now we are on chocolate! What flavor is next?

I will not vote for anyone that needs to confer with someone that is not in the room. The Tea Party has made a mockery of the Republicans. I used to agree with some of the ideals of the PUBS but the TP has changed all that.

deborah - 3074274 -

You are right! After almost 3 years of this country being controlled by a clown we are going to be VERY CAREFUL not to have two clowns running against each other for President in 2012. I do not believe Republicans are starting to reject Romney due to his religious preference, I believe a lot of Republicans are starting to reject Romney because Obama has said that he likes him and a lot of his views. That in itself is now confirming what a lot of Republicans have suspected for a while!! Why would we vote one clown out of office only to put another one in there by electing Romney??

As for Herman Cain, I believe he puts a little bit of fear in a lot of people not because he is a hater or a loud mouth, but, because Cain is speaking a lot of truth and that is what scares A LOT of people. Herman Cain is a self made successful man who has worked for everything he has accomplished. Herman Cain probably does not believe so many people should be feeling such a sense of entitlement by living off of our government. Doesn't make Herman Cain a loud mouth, it just means that he is being honest and TRANSPARENT (wink!!).

I wouldn't vote for Cain or any other Repub except Ron Paul if my vote was the deciding vote in the election and meant 4 more years of Obama...and it just might be.

Wake up Repubs.

@pro thanks for your repeated information. Ron Paul is about 80 isnt he? So who your really voting for is Ron Paul's Choice of a VP.based on his life expectancy ( He has some good ideas, but an overall trend thats not quite what we need being a career politician himself. We keep voting the same group in, and then we all get mad when we get the same goop out, with only a different shade of DUHM.

I agree.

“3. Proven ability to work across party lines.”

How can that be if has never held elected office and as
you stated is not a politician?

Well stated - I agree.

Bighand-You said it better and one minute before I said it!

Another thing, I'm sooo tired of dirty politics and mudslinging that anybody that even starts is off of my list. I think that Mr. Cain has too much class for that kind of crap.

Mr. Cain is for the 1% over the rest of America. His 999 plan will give the richest the lowest taxes in history and the poorest the highest taxes in history with nothing to show for it. As republicans would have to dismantle Medicare and Social Security and welfare and food stamps and the EPA and Food Safety.

Don't worry Mr. Cain has been assured the wealthy will be just fine once he kills the minimum wage laws all will be well in republican 1% land. The poor get less, the rich get more. What could go wrong with that plan?

We can only hope he brings as much class as he does pain. Pain to America so the rich can get richer even faster. The Koch brothers went from 7.5 Billion to 50 Billion in 10 years paying probably twice the 9% taxes that Cain proposes. Quick give them another tax cut they are suffering too much at the present rate.

Americans First-3238795, you're quite the "class warrior", have you ever served in the U.S. Military?

This will probably turn out to be a rhetorical question.

@AF --Then how do you make American made products more globally competitive? What's a shame is you actually believe that tripe, garbage, stupid things you say.

Amen Amreicans First!

Free trade works when you have 1 billion people willing to work for a buck a day and you can out bid anyone.

Doesn't work so much for a country like the US. Free trade is a crock.

AF you really need to quit reading about the 1% since the media has finally admitted that no one including the IRS knows exactly how much wealth anyone has.

Think about the high rollers on all of these Housewives shows. How many have filed bankruptcy because they were living way above their means (sounds like the US of A). People may look like they have billions but they don't as it is all an illusion.

Perhaps you should spend a little time researching facts from independent sources instead of the current biased media.

Bighand, since Mr. Cain has never held any public office, could you explain how he has "proven ability to work across party lines"? You also claim that he does not "talk badly or down about others". What about his recent comments to the unemployed, that it is their fault? The man seems to be out of touch with a lot of Americans.

1. He didn't predict the economic collapse because

2. he thinks the Federal Reserve is just great and used to work for them (doesn't get economics).

3. He supported TARP

4. He hates arabs and muslims

5. Being good in business isn't the same as understanding the economy. The government isn't FOR-PROFIT and the two subjects are separate degrees in college for a reason (they're barely related).

Ron Paul or no one. You Repubs are going to lose us this election to Obama if you don't wake up...we Ron Paul supporters are not voting for a RINO.

First question, worked across party lines: Has more than 8 companies (and tens of millions of people working) collectively performing extraordinary. Those people must have come from all backgrounds, religions, political make up, etc.

Pro, some of what you say is correct but we don't need a psychic. We need a national leader. Paul can't because he's extreme in his views of the US Constitution. Sure you can take the Constitution factually, but you also have to be flexible enough to be capable of improvement without discrimination.

I don't have the facts to back this up Cain you mean. The Cain that said if you lost your house or your job it is your fault and nothing to do with the ecomony. Just blame yourself.

Who can forget his 999 plan to enrich the rich and drive the poor into poverty they have never known before and then he can cheer them up by telling them to just blame yourself.

Cain also wants to kill the minimum wage so the poor can get poorer faster and the rich can take the difference. Of course the pizza parlor owner needs the money more than his now less than minimum wage employees. Can't have the poor making as much as minimum wage. We can't ask the rich to give more, but we can ask the poor to live on less.

Cain for pain

Clearly, you have no idea. You might want to do some research before you post again.

Taxation isn't about how much a person has left. It's only legitimate function is to support the federal government. If all are Americans, shouldn't all be treated the same under the law?

We should all be treated equal to the benefit we receive under the law, including the tax laws. Please note that interest paid on credit cards is income earned by the banks. Business gets to deduct interest as an expense, but the wage earner doesn't get to deduct interest paid on any purchases except for home ownership. What is disturbing about all the political punditry is that nobody seems to be able to see outside the conservative box that controls discussion. The issue of corporate ownership of the political process and control of government is not being addressed, except for the limited public outcry by the occupiers.

Americans First. Very good post. Hope you continue. Thanks.

You haven't heard anything you don't like because your too lazy to go beyond the TV and radio apparently.

1. He supported TARP (RINO right there)

2. He didn't predict the economic collapse, and in fact said in 2007 on it's eve that the housing crisis was "a figment of the media's imagination".

3. He doesn't want to End the FED (Federal Reserve) because he STILL doesn't get that it causes the booms and busts in the economy (so he doesn't understand economics a lick).

4. He hates muslims and arabs, and wants us to re-interpret the first amendment to treat them differently

5. If I need to keep going you're a RINO too, like Cain.

It's Ron Paul or no one. Wake up before you lose the RP constituency (we won't vote for anyone else in the general election, like we didn't with McCain) and then lose to Obama.

Didn't hear anything you didn't like? Try RESEARCHING the candidates then!

Yank, most people do not like or appreciate extremists. Mr Paul is exactly that. His views are valid and valuable but you can't run a country like that. It would shell-shock him and ruin the nation if he were to win.

Even I like many view points but he's really far out there.

I also like a lot of the stuff that Ron Paul says, but he comes off as kind of a whack job and that scary.

Compare him to people with less experience, meaning Mr. Paul has been through alot all these years. I agree with you both but also think the government is ungovernable. The bureaucrats in Washington and the Department of Defense with their lobbyist fight change. No one person elected will be able to make much more of difference. Maybe it will take someone extreme. It is still the responsibility of the press to be unbiased and report the facts. We need one six year term and dump the electoral college before 11/2012. Why can't that be done?

Ron Paul seems extremist to those that have no understanding of the Constitution. Read the Constitution and see if you think that's extremist. If you do, then please leave this country and allow the rest of us to have our freedoms back.

Ron Paul cannot be bought. But all the other empty suits do take bribes "all the time" from either the super wealthy or their associates. Ron Paul is also a pro-constitutionalist while all the others treat the constitution as like it was just an outdated piece of paper. Ron Paul is not a whack job nor is he scary. But the others, well behind those masks of theirs they wear many of them are actual scary sociopathic whackos.

Gold standard (as an alternative to fiat money), non-interventionism, balancing the budget, cutting inefficient government agencies, allowing due process to citizens, allowing people to take the risk without government stepping in... just few examples... this nation prospered under these ideologies and policies but now you call them extreme. They are not even close to be extreme; they are just conveniently forgotten and discounted American values that are being abused by the Washington.

And if your history really fails you and you still deem these values/policies to be extreme then you can always deduce another flaw with your statement. Your statement assumes that such "extremism" is undesired and bad. Well remember that the idea of democracy was extreme at certain point and the establishment tried everything in its power to slam and suppress it to preserve the status quo. Aren't you glad people still pushed and fought for the democracy?

Ron Paul would be winning in a country where people actually bothered to educate themselves on economics (he's the only candidate then or now that predicted the economic collapse step by step, and did so in 2002!), the other candidates positions at the time of the collapse (Cain said in 2007 it was "a figment of the media's imagination", just for one example; and he supported TARP...RINO!), and the world around them in general.

Most people are simply sheep and believe whatever comes out of their TVs and radios.

I'll vote for Ron Paul, and if he isn't nominated, I'll vote for a third Party and laugh at the Repubs when Obama wins re-election.

Why don't we rotate the american people like they do on jury duty for public service? Can't do any worse then what we have in office now. And raising taxes is not the answer get everything else under control and government waste will end. Most who are in office now should be behind bars.

I've always wanted to ask if being Atheist has ever hampered ones ability to accept anothers religious points of view.

Sure I think religion per se is a scourge of society but I am not here to convert anyone it is my beleif and mine only.

Cain is RINO...he supported TARP and thought the economic collapse was a "figment of the media's imagination" just monthes before it happened. He also supports the FED, which causes said collapses.

Can we get our head out the sand and look up these people? Can we elect someone who actually PREDICTED the economic collapse MAYBE?

Geez, you guys are killing me.

Ron Paul or no one 2012.

Of course you are, come on! You know he chews at your base and makes sense. I have not met a liberal yet that didnt fear an educated and sensible minority on the right side. It scares the bejesus out of you............ The more you deny it the more the fear goes.

Oh yes, you are!!! Token, my butt, I hear the fear in your voice.

You are a pathetic person to make a comment like you did. Herman Cain was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. His mother was a cleaning woman and his father was a chauffeur, barber and janitor. Everything he has achieved was on his own. He decided to study instead of of dealing drugs and blaming everyone else.

Perhaps you are the latter.

Herman Cain was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

Neither was Obama but the cons hate him.

Why is the left so afraid of conservative minorities like Cain and myself???

Charlie,

NEWS FLASH!!!!.........Obama's mother was the Vice President of a prestigious bank in Hawaii.

@Charlie -- Yeah your right. Obama was born in Kenya with a carved out wooden spoon. Oh crap, did I just say that???? LMAO.

Herman Cain is a real black man, Obama's just a wanna be.

Charlie, the major difference is that Cain believes in rewarding success and Obama believes in punishing it.

Cain will be the first successful black LEADER of our Country.....

Cain/Rubio 2012

Most republicans are not racists. Unfortunately, most racists are republicans, so, Cain is unelectable. Black democrats wont buy what he is selling.

LMAO! Obama will get elected.

Because hes selling it not tring to apease an give it or promise it ,Entitlements are the down fall of our great country

Herman Cain is a black guy that not only hates blacks he hates anyone that is not of his ilk. He has forgotten his roots and thinks he is better than anyone else. He stands for everything I detest. Which is the TP.

He doesn't have a chance in hell............believe it.

His pizza's suck too.

Hey Deb, in case you missed it ,Mr. Cain stepped off the Dem. Plantation just like Millions of other blacks who think for themselves & who don't need the Dems. or anyone else to tell them who to vote for

Deb he forgot where he came from,No he knows where he going,Bettering ones self is not a crime its the AMERCIAN way

@ntrlzdamrcn

I was by no means making a racist comment but as usual everyone wants that to be the jest of everything. I meant that he came from humble beginnings and he is now an arrogant @!$%# - I don't care what color he is. Hooray for him bettering himself - he is not an enigma. He is the poster child - this week. There is no way in hell the TPGOP will let Hermain Cain win the nod. NEXT...................

You'd love to see a RINO win? Color me unsuprised.

He supported TARP. He didn't foresee the economic collapse (Ron Paul did though). He thinks the Federal Reserve is just peachy (he used to work for them).

And you think being the head of the K.C FED had no influence whatsoever over this cronie capitalist Cain?

Could you TRY and research the candidates at least before you listen to the TV and radio and nominate another RINO I can't vote for?

I will vote third Party if you don't nominate Ron Paul again, and so will most of his supporters. You will then lose to Obama. I will then laugh at you for nominating another losing RINO.

Stop it, and research these guys...will ya?

Vote 3rd party and take the rest of the radical right, and radical left nuts for that matter with you. You are such a small minority it does not even matter.

We are like Europe in that whether it is England, Germany and France posturing against Spain, Portugal Ireland and Greece OR the radical right wing and radical left wing posturing against each other. They are all doing it for selfish gains and to appease populist mind sets.

It is going to take program cuts and tax revenues to get the ox out of the ditch, and that will be painful for all. But it is a shared pain and burden.

"I am on board the Cain Train! No stopping this high speed express. Direct to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave."

LOL!!! Sure -- and I'm going to win PowerBall this week -- and next week too. Giver it a month -- the Cain worship will be over. In some circles -- it's already started.

would that be the circle that is your own head Charlie? LOL....Dream on if you think Americans are going to put up with Obama for 4 more years....

Would that be because he didnt fix the Republican mess fast enough? Really?

no that would be because he made things ten times worse, that is what inexperience and a fondness for teleprompters will get ya.

Old,

Are you a closet racist?

Bernie: are you dumbest?

race!? libbies are the real racist...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUBK9_4OQIs&feature=related

Cain hates us all but the rich and his 999 plan is the proof. That and he wants to get rid of minimum wage. In his plan the poor get poorer faster. Then he will turn around and tell you to blame yourself not him, of course I don't have any facts to back this up. Just like Cain who needs no facts to start throwing out BS.

Cain is a wolf in sheeps clothing

wrong..., said just like a liberal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DS0XXFdyfI&feature=related

They ALL want to eliminate the minimum wage. I don't know much about Cain but with no foreign policy experience I don't believe he will go that far.

dosherriff

Gee and Obama had bunches of foreign policy experience right out of the corrupt Chicago machine eh???

Minimum wage is racisism - It's been many years since my college days, but I actually read some of the congressional arguements that led to it's passage...The main arguement for it was "Southern blacks were taking jobs away from upstanding white folk, because they were willing to work for less. If you forced the employer to pay the same minmum wage, he would certainly hire the white worker instead". There's more ofcourse, I could point out how many of the so called "Liberal" policies, actually serve to oppress the poor and keep them in their place, that is, poor and dependent on the gov't - but most either already understand that or never will.

Don't you mean USA/ Kenya?

Idiot

They are listening to the same TV and radio that told the McCain was a conservative...lol...and of course neither of them (Cain or McCain) are; they're both RINOs.

I thought he was the woman...

Funny Peter, because that is what your wife said!

"I thought he was the woman"