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Subscribe to RSSIn 2010, we learned from Martha Coakley that a candidate for statewide office in Massachusetts can't swing and miss on knowing their Boston Red Sox.
But there's another rule in American politics: tread carefully when you're (likely) running against a female candidate.
In an interview on WZLX radio this morning, Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown (R) was asked about Elizabeth Warren's (D) answer to a debate question about how she paid for law school (when Brown paid for it, in part, by posing nude).
"I kept my clothes on" was Warren's retort at the Democratic debate.
And here was Brown's reply in his radio interview: "Thank God." That response produced laughs from Brown and the radio hosts. (The audio is here.)
(Hat tip: Greg Sargent.)
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Politics at it's naked best!
The Race to the (sweetest, tightest) bottom is on!
I can't wait for the swimsuit competition...
How do we know this? Apparently Warren has never had her cloths off.
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Nothing like a nice, zero-zero educated, sexist remark from Senator Brown as befits his station.
Someone for women to really look up to on the GOP side of the aisle.
Senator Brown, who now receives the most money from Wall street in all of Congress ~
gave the Old Boys something to chuckle about.
Is ugly a protected class Navy?
His comment appears to have nothing to do with her sex, only the fact that she's, um, likely not Playboy material.
Now maybe I'm wrong. Please help me understand how this is sexist/about gender.
Oh and hey First Read, thanks for picking up my topic suggestion. So how about something on the 5 Gun Runner Memos Holder got, OR that Obama's job bill would create at most 1.3 million jobs.
So we lost another 4ook this weeks and in many weeks past. What percent is the 1.4 in relation to the jobs lost during mighty Obama's reign?
.... a buzzing noise....around here.....Ssssssssssssssssssss.
Navy, that comment was in no way, shape or form sexist.
It was actually a very sincere, kind comment from Mr. Brown, expressing his appreciation for the fact that Ms. Warren was never in such a tight financial bind that she had to resort to the same things that he had to resort to.
I believe, that Mr. Brown is very glad that Ms. Warren did not have to take her clothes off to get through school, because that would be quite a cross to bear.
I think you should take back all the mean things you have said about Mr. Brown.
Senator Brown, I'm sure "counselors" all over the United States will tell you the same thing: Anything you say can and will be used against you.
The Democrats don't need to run a negative campaign against these emotional, ideological ignorants...they can sink themselves. All they need to do is open their mouths.
Thank God she kept her clothes on? who then should we thank for posing nude to see yourself through college, Mr. Brown? Loser.
Also Warren is no stranger to hitting it rich. She was paid more than $347,000 annually for her work at Harvard, plus another $53,428 in royalties, according to a disclosure report filed in May 2009. Warren earned more than $116,000 as a legal consultant, and other $25,000 doing research for the Consumers Union, a nonprofit group in Yonkers, N.Y.
Source http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64306.html#ixzz1a2MttotZ
In addition Ms. Warren is a professor at Harvard where she is teaching only one class, contract law, twice a week this fall. Records show she was paid $350,000, plus $182,000 in royalties and consulting fees, before she took leave a year ago to establish the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau on behalf of the Obama administration.
Source: http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2011/09/mass-gop-urges-harvard-end-elizabeth-warren-salary/qYl7CACXVlIW6LhL2vfUYL/index.html
Harvard has elected to continue her salary while she is running for the Senate. Sweet deal for just another Limousine Liberal.
Check your hearing aid.
Profile of the privileged, wealthy Koch Brothers-backed male:
1. Brown poses in a women's magazine, no-one says anthing about it today.
2. Brown takes a laugh at the woman's form and in particular Ms. Warren's, while playing to the gallery in Congress.
Profile of an ignorant, spoiled and privileged white male.
Navy?
And a la Geinter, don't forget Warren is a tax cheat to boot.
What is with these dems and "forgetting" about income?
Did anyone (besides me) actually listen to the audio?
Spanky how many repugs have forgotten to pay their meager taxes. Still using cut and paste you have to start using fact to form truth. Complete your sentences, I do not hear her complaining about paying more taxes do you. How many repugs are complaining about paying more taxes. Remember fact to form truth not the other way around.
God forbid they debate policy instead of trivia.
Spanky,
Doubt Warren was ever interested in taking her clothes off for anyone except her lover however Brown? He wasn't in shape and can hide all man parts with the cup of a rather small hand. That tells me everything I didn't really want to know about the man. Nothing to offer, above or below his pretty face.
Memo to Senator Scott Brown: That remark will sit well with every female Massachusetts voter. Please remove your foot from your mouth before the next interview.
Warren MUST be good. Look at how much Smiff is trying to discredit her already.
Kind of like back in 2008 when the subject was some 'big-ered', 'comunity organizer', eh?
Only those who lack a sense of humor...he was responding to HER attempt at humor, (after all he DID pose in the nude) and many here seem to lack one entirely.
note to board...lighten up...it couldn't hurt
"Eared". Meant to say 'Eared' instead of that word I typed..
Naw, Jody, just the ugly ones.
DF - I think the subtlety is lost with this group. It was a funny response to her statement. It was also what everyone else was thinking.
I think Senator Zoolander is counting on his super hotness to get him through the election.
Spanky now you read minds I knew you were a carny, know any card tricks
[Spanky now you read minds I knew you were a carny...]
Small hands...smells like cabbage...yep, Spanky's a carney.
What a misogynist PIG!
Took you three tries to get that one out, eh?
Who's stalking who again? eh?
It's kinda creepy if you ask me... lol
You nailed it Feisty!
Women deserve NO respect as far as Senator Brown is concerned:
Remember this little nugget during his acceptance speech, 'take my daughters please'!.......
http://www.mediaite.com/online/dad-scott-brown-embarrasses-daughters-during-acceptance-speech/
You can't make this stuff up. Nice way to show respect for women, Scott.
Ok Steeler, tell you what, what should he have said in response?
Surely not - "She should have taked her clothes off too" as that would be disrespctful, correct?
Craft what you think is a good response.
I had a Hostile work envioroment claim a while back. Middle management, middle aged woman sued her employer. Her boss made some interesting comments, to all of the staff.
I asked her in deposition ways he could have communicated the same thing in a less offensive manner. The responses she gave were very interesting.
Case ended up settling. Impoprtanlty she got less than my fees - a win, win.
I think Smiff ought to shake her dick at Brown for being a bad boy.
That's what I think.
Classic - on a thread about remarks that are purportedly sexist, Drive By busts out with a crack about JAS 1's dick.
A true gentleman are you Drive By.
Absolutely tone deaf, but classic. :)
Hey, 'counselor'- maybe she will favor you by sending you a photo of it? Seems like you approve of that sort of 'gentlemanly' behavior.
You can tape it to your mirror, and 'compare atributes'. Or at least enjoy the sight of one of 'em. (Yours, no doubt- you DO seem to have a "Hey, everybody- Look at ME" complex going on.)
He's been venting all week about that table tennis match he was in with us last week. You remember, the one where Buzz was the ball.
Whacka-whacka Buzz.
Quite an interesting post, Smiff.
I love it when you call me 'Buzz', though, so I won't make fun of you this time....
Isn't he always the ball?
Drive By - Be the Ball.
Whack a' Drive By is a fun game. Easy, but still fun.
Come on, Spanky, stop with the cute routine. You know what he meant by that.
Her remark went to his behavior, which he controls.
His remark went to her appearance, which, except for superficialities, is not within her control.
Let's put it this way: He lived up to my image of him. Shallow.
And how exactly are YOU not tone deaf if you refuse to acknowledge what Brown was really saying?
seriously?
you settled for less than your fee? thats some outstanding lawyering. :p
i think you're ready to run for office.
[I had a Hostile work envioroment claim a while back.]
You mean you were the defendant in a hostile work enviroment claim, right "counselor"
<shakes his head>
Here FR, lets talk a little substance about Ms. (maybe) Warren.
That sums up the Socialist Democrats misguided approach to how wealth is created in this country. To ultra-Leftists like Warren, everything comes from the state, the government. Nothing comes from hard work, perseverance, or someone finding new and innovative ways of doing things. What Warren is saying is that anyone that does make it in this world is beholden to the central government, that they owe a "hunk" of money to the one that got them to where they are, i.e., the government.
Warren rants about the public roads that allow people to reach these businesses. She talks about how the government "educates" its workers. News to most. Most people pay for their own college degrees. She talks about the police keeping out the "marauders" from these businesses. Funny she doesn't the mention the biggest marauder and thief, the government itself.
Warren is full of Leftist drivel and populist rhetoric. She acts like these businesses don't already pay a disproportionate amount of taxes for the roads, for the schools, for the fire and police protection.
Warren is the perfect surrogate for Obama. They are so much alike, and so wrong alike.
JoAnnaSmith1. Have you ever met Ms. Warren? Why do you make judgments on who or what she is? Are you a Massachusetts voter? Then why should you care? She has said educated things that make a lot of sense. Every American has the right to a free education K-12, and every state subsidizes university and post-high school tech training. She is right to say that people are educated through the taxes paid to government. That's why it is so important to keep our education strong. She is correct when she says that our taxpayer-funded police, sheriff, fire and emergency services are also there for corporations -- they don't have to pay an extra charge for these services. Would you rather work for a company that had private firefighters on call? And where would they get the water for fighting the fire if not from the municipal or county?
JAS---if you had taken the trouble to listen to the entirety of Elizabeth Warren's remarks, you would know that in them she makes the points the WE THE PEOPLE pay for things like the roads upon which goods are shipped, the schools that educate the workers, the police and fire services that keep everyone safe. She recognizes that hard work and perseverance are necessary and applauds them---and then asks the people who are getting ahead because of what WE THE PEOPLE have paid for to pay it forward to enable someone else to have similar success. She never suggests that anyone is beholden to the government. But I guess it would be too much for you to listen to the clip and represent it accurately.
[Why do you make judgments on who or what she is?]
Because Smiffy Smuffs doesn't know any better (i.e.: ignorant)...it's her claim to fame...it's what she does best.
She's her own worst enemy.
Newsflash Steeler - the 1% pay 39% of the taxes. So "we" already have paid our share of the roads and stuff.
The statistics indicate that 1% earn 40% of the income, so, in paying 39%, they pay their fair share. By contrast less wealthy pay a lot less in taxes. Progressive tax system and all, right?
"Nobody gets rich on their own." Great, so how come everybody can't get rich - we all share the same schools and roads, right?
I assure you no rich person wants anyone to be poor.
No, I have not met Ms. Warren. I make my judgements on what she says, and what is reported about the woman. And is this article just for Massachusetts voters? If so, why is it on a national blog?
Warren is a far left wing ideologue. She believes wealth and prosperity come from the state, and not from individuals. I believe she is wrong, and I have commented as such.
Have you met Ms. Warren. If not, how can you make statements about her?
Really kate? Really? Corporations pay property taxes, taxes much higher than a local residence. They pay extra kate. They do pay their fair-share.
JAS1 City, County and States give corporations large tax breaks and incentives to put their business in there area. So they in fact are not paying the full amount due that a smaller business would pay. Granted the bigger the business the more ground they cover but if the small guy has to pay full ticket for what he has why should the big guy pay a percentage of the full ticket. How is that paying a fair share. Now some companies are large enough to have their own security as well as fire departments say like boeing. But they are the exception not the rule. So if a large company get a tax reduction just to set up shop and still make use of all the services are they paying their full share or just a percentage.
JAS1 you have given us one phrase from what Elizabeth Warren said. We have no way of judging the context or the intent.
Yet from that one phrase, you feel entitled to judge her sexuality, her intent, her meaning and enough to write a multi-paragraph rebuttal?
Unbelieveable.
[JAS1 you have given us one phrase from what Elizabeth Warren said.]
Smiffy belongs to the Short Attention Span Theater group here on FR.
Oh, look Smiff! A shiny nickel! -------------------->
...maybe you can beat SSSSSSSSSpanky to it...
I'm a lot more interested in the things she does not say-
To the IRS.
About a couple hundred thousand in income she "forgot" to report.
Always nice when tax cheats talk to me about taxes I should be paying.
This? Pure nonsense.
Really? In this day and age? We still denigrate women this way? If you thought it was wrong to make comments about Christie's weight (and it was) why would you defend this?
Yes, women will remember this.
And so they should, he showed about as much class as a Texas cotten farmer.
Maybe Elizebeth Warren sshould have kept her mouth shut...she deserved it!
I think I sense a little hypocrisy here with the Christian Right having little to say concerning nude photos in magazines of Brown, but if a woman running for the Senate had posed nude to help her get through college there would have been hell to pay, and all kinds of snarky remarks made to crucify her in the election. That is why a lot of women think of double standards that has been used to make them second class citizens.
and scott brown was all... like... "pfft... she thinks she's as pretty as i am. what a joke!"
dont worry scotty. you're much prettier than she is.
you're the fairest of them all.
Beauty or Brains; I'll take the one with the brains anyday.
I agree with Scott. She's got no personality, she's homely and she's flat as drywall.
Only voters that choose candidates on what they think the candidate looks like with their clothes off will be swayed by any of this.
I suppose there are enough of those to have kept Chris Christie out of the race. So, now the GOP is stuck with all the other dumb clucks.
Scott Brown should be thankful that Mass. voters don't select candidates based on chivalry, a gentleman's disposition, and good manners. Not to mention good sense. Commenting on a woman's figure is always a pathway to trouble. Why do you think men hate to answer the question, "Does this make my butt look big?"