House dismisses resolution condemning Perry ranch

Republican presidential politics made a surprising and unexpected appearance in the House Chamber Thursday, when a Democratic congressman sought to force a vote on a resolution condemning Texas Gov. Rick Perry for having a rock on his hunting ranch that contained a racial epithet.

The House voted to set aside a privileged resolution aimed at condemning the stone on Perry's ranch offered earlier in the day by an impassioned Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL).

Earlier in the day, Jackson read his resolution on the floor. It called on the House to:

“Condemn Texas Governor Rick Perry for using a secluded West Texas hunting camp as a place to host lawmakers, friends and supporters on hunting trips at a place known by the name painted in block letters across a large, flat rock standing upright at its gated entrance called 'N*****head.'"

The resolution came in reaction to a Washington Post report on Sunday that a hunting ranch leased by Perry and his family had, for some time, contained a stone displaying the racially-charged name of the grounds. Perry's campaign has insisted in response that the word on the stone had been painted over in the early 1980s.

While most resolutions like Jackson's are filed away to be dealt with at a later date, Jackson Jr. returned to the House floor around 1:45 p.m. to demand that his resolution be given a vote. The House chair, which is controlled by the ruling GOP, sought to table the resolution, which, in effect, would kill it and therefore not force members to have to take a vote.

In a stern a serious voice, Jackson Jr. refused to recant saying, “Mr. Speaker, N***** is offensive. 'N*****head' is offensive. And for a governor of one of the great states of our nation to hunt at 'N*****head' camp, it's offensive, and I think that I'm expressing the moral outrage of all Americans.”

Jackson them demanded a recorded vote on Republicans' move to table -- or set aside -- his measure; he sought, by doing that, to put fellow lawmakers on the record with a vote on the resolution.

The House voted to defeat Jackson's resolution, 231-173, in a largely strict party-lines vote. Just one Democrat, Texas Rep. Henry Cuellar, sided with Republicans in voting against bringing the measure to the floor.

A Democratic aide told NBC News that Jackson Jr., a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, spoke for many of the chamber’s Democratic members who had taken great offense that Perry allowed an insensitive word to appear on his property.

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Of course they did...

In keeping with traditional male, stale & pale party values it's much easier to sweep it under the rug & pretend it never happened...

Meanwhile, Perry is still caught between a rock & a hard place! ;o)

No amount of spinning is gonna change a thing!

  • 27 votes
#1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:21 PM EDT

A very large racial epithet for all to see, displayed on a Presidential candidate's property is unacceptable in the extreme.

Naturally, candidate Rick Perry will argue against the nation's perception of it.

But what is done is done.

Yuk again. Mr. Perry.

  • 26 votes
#1.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:27 PM EDT

QUICK- let's propose a new drinking game- one shot for each time 'racist' appears on this thread. Remember to be careful, though- you can drink, and drink, and drink- and you STILL get drunk!

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

What a can of worms that would open.....They would have to in turn enter a resolution to condemn Jesse Jackson Jr for being born to his racist father (remember the esteemed Reverends derogatory and racial remarks about Obama during the election)....where would it end?

Backhouse....it was not his property...it was a family hunting lease....the leased the rights to hunt on the land....it wasn't a vacation home or his personal ranch.

Drive by observer...take one shot for my calling the Reverend Jesse Jackson a racist...oops that would be two because I called the Reverend a racist again...darn three

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:35 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Restored

Well at least our tax dollars, and these folks time, is being well spent.

I wonder if a resolution could be proposed for Rev. "God damn American Wright?"

Seems a tad anti-patriot.

Plus at least Jesse Jackson Jr. is so clean himself. In fact if he could have jst come up with a little more cash, it'd be Senator Jackson.

I wonder how all of his step brothers and sisters are doing?

  • 11 votes
#1.4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:39 PM EDT

Spanky...this trend could really catch on....tell Shiela Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters that they re trying to get resolutions of The REV.s Jackson and Write and they will want them too.

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:45 PM EDT

What exactly struck Perry campaign? I've never witnessed a campaign go up in flames in a record time like Perry's. Perry really did a bad home work before considering to run and who ever advised him to run never meant well for this poor man. But all the same cowboy, you were punked. somebody just punked you.

  • 9 votes
#1.6 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:56 PM EDT

Could one of you Texas folk run up to the camp, and paint 'Peckerhead' on that rock?

Do it, and Perry will paint over it on day one - instead of waiting for dad to 'white' it out like he did last time.

  • 10 votes
#1.7 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:57 PM EDT

The Perry family doesn't own the property. This was just democrats setting up one more straw man to bandy about.

  • 8 votes
#1.8 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:00 PM EDT

While the liberal democrats get their panties in a twist over some rock, they studiously avoid Eric Holder's perjury before Congress while he was testifying about the Fast and Furious fiasco.

Typical race-baiting and deflection by the liberal democrats.

  • 12 votes
#1.9 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:02 PM EDT

Wow. Talk about desperate.

  • 8 votes
#1.10 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:02 PM EDT

more political grandstanding from Jr and the DNC..........the rock was painted over......its leased land......it is a local slang given to that area..........Pery has condemned the slang and does not use it........Did Obama ever condemn the racist toned remarks of Rev Wright.........NO......he made some cock and bull story and laughed it off......as MSNBC did also

What's up MSNBC.........Are Sarah and Michelle having a slow news week.

  • 10 votes
#1.11 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:02 PM EDT

Jesse Jackson, Jr.

Proud son of Jesse 'Hymietown' Jackson Sr., race baiter and whore for the perpetuation of welfare.

  • 12 votes
#1.12 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:03 PM EDT

Plus at least Jesse Jackson Jr. is so clean himself.

Next Mr. Junior asked for a resolution condemning his fathers threat to cut off Obama's nads, and also to get some funding for dear old dad's child support payments.

Busy day for Junior.

  • 12 votes
#1.13 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:05 PM EDT

.Did Obama ever condemn the racist toned remarks of Rev Wright.......

Excellent point.

The loony liberals simply (and hypocritically) ignore the racist, America-hating Rev "Goddamn America" Wright.

Obama sat in this church for TWENTY years.

The appalling hypocrisy of the left continues to astound.

  • 11 votes
#1.14 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

1Hiram

Really.....a racial slur is a local slang? Like RICHARD #1.7 said, you guys better "WHITE" it out.

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

A true classic. almost made me incontinent the first time I saw it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNz5XnvZHhk&noredirect=1

    #1.16 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT

    .Did Obama ever condemn the racist toned remarks of Rev Wright.......

    Why, I believe he actually gave a very well received speech on it...

    Although, I don't think Faux & Freaks carried it so it's understandable how you might of missed it! ;o)

    • 18 votes
    #1.17 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT

    Feisty Red- Your commentary is not only inane, it is insulting to all women in the Republican Congress.

    • 7 votes
    #1.18 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM EDT

    And if you only read MSNBC you would not know about "Fast and Furious" or Eric Holder's perjury before Congress, until today.

    After all, it's only been a few months, and stories about lost kitty cats are front-page news.

    • 6 votes
    #1.19 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:13 PM EDT

    And if you only read MSNBC you would not know about "Fast and Furious"

    Is that the same Fast & Furious that orginated under Operation Wide Receiver during 'W''s reign of terror?

    Just asking..?

    • 17 votes
    #1.20 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:16 PM EDT

    Is that the same Fast & Furious that orginated under Operation Wide Receiver during 'W''s reign of terror?

    It is very close....with the exceptions that guns didn't end up in the hands of narco-terrorists, the buyers of the guns were immediately apprehended, and no US officials were killed.

    Oh, and Ashcroft didn't perjure himself in front of Congress.

    Otherwise, they seem similar.

    • 8 votes
    #1.21 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:19 PM EDT

    Oh, and Ashcroft didn't perjure himself in front of Congress.

    Neither has Holder according to Daryl Issa - do you have a point you're trying to make?

    • 13 votes
    #1.22 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:21 PM EDT

    To all conservatives on this blog, If MSNBC reporting on this issue is inane, please tell us why the GOP congress condemned this action? Liberal don't control the house, you guy do. Why did they condemned this act of shame? Anyone please?

    • 6 votes
    #1.23 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

    Wright never said anything worthy of condemnation. I DARE someone to tell me what he should be condemned for, and then post the whole paragraph the sentence came out of.

    • 10 votes
    #1.24 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:24 PM EDT

    How about some effective legislation being passed in congress, in addressing the unemployment problem. If you just want to do resolutions how about a resolution condemning the republican leaders in Congress for publicly stating their main, and primary objective was to make sure the newly elected POTUS, was a one term president, as opposed to representing the citizens of the US and serving the US to best of their abilities. This resolution was voted down along party lines so it did once again prove that republicans are willing to make their tent smaller by defending ignorance, however it is not a crime to be ignorant, and I don't think we need a resolution to know when we have seen ignorance.

    • 14 votes
    #1.25 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

    NO wide receiver was shut down before people died........It even gave Holder and the ATF filed written proof this type of sting was a BS operation. And they STILL went ahead with the same type sting..... only 3 times bigger.......and agents died.

    Sorts like Bush gave them the proof Solyndra was a lost cause.......but Obama went ahead anyway

    • 4 votes
    #1.26 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

    Neither has Holder according to Daryl Issa - do you have a point you're trying to make?

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65208.html

    Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) is turning up the heat on Eric Holder, demanding the attorney general “come forward and at least admit” he knew about Operation Fast and Furious long before he told Congress he learned about the gun program.

    “He may or may not have perjured himself, but he certainly failed to answer my questions and [Rep.] Jason Chaffetz’s questions about what did he know — he implied he knew nothing when in fact he at least knew something,” Issa said

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65208.html#ixzz1a2Fxp5lV

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65208.html#ixzz1a2FmvEOA

    • 8 votes
    #1.27 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

    Great.

    Now maybe, for a follow-up act, they could dismiss a jobs bill, and finish up the week just as irrelevant as when they began.

    txmom:

    Backhouse....it was not his property...it was a family hunting lease....the leased the rights to hunt on the land....it wasn't a vacation home or his personal ranch.

    Oh, well, then. That makes a big difference.

    I'm down here waving and ready to be labeled, DBO.

    • 3 votes
    #1.28 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:26 PM EDT

    “He may or may not have perjured himself,

    One more time... is there a point your trying to make?

    • 10 votes
    #1.29 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:28 PM EDT

    Toasty McGrath

    Wright never said anything worthy of condemnation. I DARE someone to tell me what he should be condemned for, and then post the whole paragraph the sentence came out of.

    Like shooting fish in a barrel:

    Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11

    Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."

    The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism."

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4443788&page=1

    • 3 votes
    #1.30 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:29 PM EDT

    Feisty- As usual, you are incorrect, and again a bore!

    • 7 votes
    #1.31 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

    Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

    “He may or may not have perjured himself,

    One more time... is there a point your trying to make?

    We'll see, won't we Feisty?

    I look forward to what you'll say if and when Holder is held accountable for his perjury.

    Oh, and here's the part you omitted. I'm sure it was an oversight on your part:

    but he certainly failed to answer my questions and [Rep.] Jason Chaffetz’s questions about what did he know — he implied he knew nothing when in fact he at least knew something,” Issa said

    Get that? "he implied he knew nothing when in FACT he at LEAST knew something".


    That's the point I am trying to make, and I think we've only just begun to investigate Holder.

    • 4 votes
    #1.32 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:33 PM EDT

    Operation Fast & Furious started in the fall of 2009 as part of Project Gunrunner, an older ATF initiative

    Following the discovery that agents in Tucson let the guns "walk," a tactic which has long been against Justice Department policy, the department under Obama decided to bring charges against those who had come under investigation in 2006.

    To date in Wide Receiver, nine people have been charged with making false statements in acquisition of firearms and illicit transfer, shipment or delivery of firearms. Two of the nine defendants have pleaded guilty and a plea hearing is scheduled for Oct. 13 for two other defendants.

    Source: http://www.news9.com/story/15615321/officials-bush-era-probe-permitted-guns-transfer?clienttype=printable

    Don't you think those in the Obama administration should also be held accountable? Or are you saying that continuation of what was wrong in 2008 is okay as long as it's done by a democrat?

    Holder lied to Congress. There's video evidence of it. There's an email trail to prove it. There are people who have stated that they personally briefed him on the mission. Holder should resign at the very least.

    • 5 votes
    #1.33 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:34 PM EDT

    The exact quote of what he said please, Steven. Go ahead.

    • 4 votes
    #1.34 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:34 PM EDT

    Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

    Oh, and Ashcroft didn't perjure himself in front of Congress.

    Neither has Holder according to Daryl Issa - do you have a point you're trying to make?

    You're stretching credibility. Issa has NOT said that Holder didn't perjure himself.

    Did he, Feisty?

    • 3 votes
    #1.35 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:34 PM EDT

    Feisty- As usual, you are incorrect, and again a bore!

    But you can't seem to get enough of me... lol

    Sorry, but the Troll the Feisty Redhead Fan Club is currently chock full - please try again in 3 months - something might open up! ;0)

    • 6 votes
    #1.36 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:36 PM EDT

    Toasty McGrath

    The exact quote of what he said please, Steven. Go ahead.

    Read the article, Toasty. It's from that bastion of Conservatism, ABC News.

    You know, I have been hard on you, so I'll help you out.

    Here's the quotes:

    "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

    In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

    "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

    • 2 votes
    #1.37 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:37 PM EDT

    Nice try on changing the subject, GUSA, but just because Fox News runs that story 24/7 doesn't make it anything more than a tempest in a teapot.

    • 7 votes
    #1.38 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:37 PM EDT

    Issa has NOT said that Holder didn't perjure himself

    Don't talk to me about credibility - where did Issa say he DID?

    Last time I checked speculation & grandstanding isn't considered hard evidence...

    Get back to me when you have a point...

    • 7 votes
    #1.39 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:38 PM EDT

    I like and admire Feisty.

    I don't agree with most everything she says, but she's eloquent, convinced in her beliefs and mores, and clearly intelligent.

    If we all thought alike, there would be no politics, or almost anything else diverse.

    • 2 votes
    #1.40 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:39 PM EDT

    Tell you what, Steve. I'll do your homework for you this one time:

    "And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly, she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, not God Bless America. God damn America — that's in the Bible — for killing innocent people. God damn America, for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America, as long as she tries to act like she is God, and she is supreme. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent.."

    So tell me, what's controversial about condemning our nation's history of oppression, segregation, slavery, and murder, Steve?

    • 5 votes
    #1.41 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:39 PM EDT

    Feisty,

    You seem to be the spokeswoman (not sure if that is PC, sorry) for MSNBC and have answers and comebacks for all those hate mongers. But please let me ask, why you have not on any post ever sought to hold your messiah accountable for anything. Perry stuff is petty at best. Obama stuff affects us all. Why no fingers pointed his way on anything.

    • 2 votes
    #1.42 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:40 PM EDT

    Don't talk to me about credibility - where did Issa say he DID?

    I don't think the investigation has been completed; in fact it's been barely started.

    We'll see how the investigation goes, and what conclusions are reached.

    We don't want to rush to judgement.

    • 1 vote
    #1.43 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

    We'll see how the investigation goes, and what conclusions are reached.

    Thank you!

    That's all I'm asking for - I felt the same about Weinergate however, once the facts came out was the first to say he had to go!

    You cannot breach the public trust no matter what side of the aisle you reside on...

    PS: Thank you for the kind words above! It was fun talking with ya! ;o)

    • 5 votes
    #1.44 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:47 PM EDT

    But please let me ask, why you have not on any post ever sought to hold your messiah accountable for anything.

    But I have - including continuing the patriot act - not getting out of Iraq & Afghanistan fast enough for my liking - no public option in HCR - continuation of the Bush Tax Cuts to name a few...

    See - I don't believe he's perfect but I do believe he's doing the best he can with the crap sandwich he was left with from the previous occupant!

    PS: Please don't use 'Messiah' I rarely will respond to those who do...

    • 7 votes
    #1.45 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:52 PM EDT

    PEN-24

    "What exactly struck Perry campaign? I've never witnessed a campaign go up in flames in a record time like Perry's"

    For starters, he stepped into the spotlight. The one that illuminates that land OUTSIDE the boundaries of Texas.

    • 5 votes
    #1.46 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:52 PM EDT

    Go USA --

    At what point would you say Holder became responsible for the program, and if you acknowledge, as you must that it began in the Bush administration, then shouldn't we also have a chat with Michael Mukasey?

    Is Holder responsible from Day 1, or is he responsible only after he has knowledge?

    Because, according to what I've read so far, the information in Issa's possession indicates that Holder first became chargeably aware of the program in July, 2010.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/calm-down-about-fast-and-furious-gun-sting-atf-acting-director-says/2011/10/05/gIQAbKJpOL_story.html

    If that's true, then I wonder why no one told Holder about the program before that. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, the cowboys running the program didn't want him to know?

    "Should have known" is, of course, different from actual knowledge. So, it's at least possible that Holder is not technically lying, and is guilty at most of negligence in not reading and reacting what was sent to him. Time will tell.

    In short, I think we shouldn't be too hasty here.

    Steven B.

    We don't want to rush to judgement.

    Exactly.

    But along those same lines, if we hold Holder responsible for his putative knowledge, should we perhaps haul George W. Bush up to Congress and demand to know why he didn't do anything about that infamous memo he got in August 2001? After which, Bush remarked to the briefer, who flew to Texas specifically to call the memo to Bush's attention, "All right. You've covered your ass, now."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211.html

    If there was nothing alarming enough in that memo to require a response from The White House, then the briefer "covered his [a$$]" ... for what?

    • 5 votes
    #1.47 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:57 PM EDT

    Fiesty,

    Sorry for the messiah comment. Just wanted to see how you would answer. Important stuff, thanks for your response.

      #1.48 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:00 PM EDT

      This "happened" thirty years ago, Perry didn't own the property, and his family painted over the word. Result: this is a non-issue.

      To Jesse Jr: The race card has been so overused that it has lost most of its effectiveness. Translation: Jesse your s**t is really weak.

        #1.49 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:02 PM EDT

        Important stuff, thanks for your response.

        You're welcome!

        No apologies necessary (but much appreciated - it's a rarity around here)... ;o)

        • 1 vote
        #1.50 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:03 PM EDT

        Daryl Issa is nothing more than a 21st. century Joe McCarthy, a title he shares with Rep. Peter King.

        They make their claim to fame by chasing the Boogey Man.

        We can only hope these two fade into the night before they do some serious damage to this country.

        • 6 votes
        #1.51 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:15 PM EDT

        MRWSR- Allow me to answer your query to Fiesty

        Feisty,

        You seem to be the spokeswoman (not sure if that is PC, sorry) for MSNBC and have answers and comebacks for all those hate mongers. But please let me ask, why you have not on any post ever sought to hold your messiah accountable for anything. Perry stuff is petty at best. Obama stuff affects us all. Why no fingers pointed his way on anything.

        Feisty is a liberal who's mission is to berate all things conservative, and "advance" anything liberal. She is the "Poster Child "for liberalism. Feisty could be compared to a very sore throat, that won't get any better until it has had some Tea.

        • 3 votes
        #1.52 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:29 PM EDT

        "I wonder if a resolution could be proposed for Rev. "God damn American Wright?"

        The Rev. spoke truth, truthfully.

        Any one that wants to argue otherwise, has a violent mind.

        • 3 votes
        #1.53 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 8:23 PM EDT

        As usual... the right, when confronted with anything deemed improper, react with examples of someone else they deem to be just as bad... like that justifies what was done. How about something like this instead?...

        'It is recognized that the name of this leased camp was indeed improper and inappropriate. Our slavery past in the south haunts us often with reminders of this horrible behavior coming to our attention on an almost daily basis. All we can do is remove these reminders, acknowledge the progress that has been made, and pledge even more rigor in the work to be done today and in the future. We apologize for any offense taken. The offensive material has been removed and we want to assure all that no offense was intended."

        But that would be too difficult for Perry to do, wouldn't it? It would be smart, appropriate, and just plain good policy. But...

        • 1 vote
        #1.54 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 7:59 AM EDT

        Feisty......he may not have perjured himself.........but Holder's sworn testimony is contradicted by ALL of the written evidence made public so far..........not to count the evidence CBS said they have but their legal dept is going through before exposed. It is not looking good for Holder.

        • 1 vote
        #1.55 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 10:33 AM EDT

        Just for the record, the ONLY people that have ever seen this so-called racial rock were the people going through the gate. And to them, it meant, LARGE SMOOTH ROCK... nothing more, nothing less...

        • 1 vote
        #1.56 - Fri Oct 7, 2011 6:01 PM EDT
        Reply

        All of these Republicans are probably asking Perry when they can join him hunting.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

        Because of a ROCK really....are you serious...show me some good exotics and large white tail and well I'll send my husband...love the meat not too keen on shooting the animal myself...my daughter however, can skin it nicely.

        • 3 votes
        #2.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:40 PM EDT
        Reply

        this kind of stuff will continue to come up about my illustrious Governor Perry.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

        And no one will continue to care.

        In droves.

        • 6 votes
        #3.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:45 PM EDT
        Reply

        Be careful of throwing stones, for all accounts Presitent Obama was a member of a racist church.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

        How long did you attend this church to come to this conclusion or is first hand knowledge required to determine guilt or is it guilt by association. Might want to check out your friends.

        • 4 votes
        #4.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:06 PM EDT
        Reply

        Again we are trying to play dirty politics... as said it was a lease and his father's toboot.. so why are we trying to condem him ???

        P.S. it's ok for black people to call each other that name .but god forbid someone else should .. talk about racist

        • 5 votes
        Reply#5 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM EDT

        This is what happens when the democrats' candidate hasn't a leg to stand on.

        • 2 votes
        #5.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

        A Democratic aide told NBC News that Jackson Jr., a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, spoke for many of the chamber’s Democratic members who had taken great offense that Perry allowed an insensitive word to appear on his property.

        Seems that Jackson, Jr. needs to get his facts straight. Rick Perry doesn't own the property.

        • 3 votes
        #5.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

        Go USA, it is interesting as well that the NBC News people didn't inform Jr about that either.

        Good Ol NBC. Never let the facts get in the way of a stupid story.

        • 5 votes
        #5.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT

        cblanch Guilt by association its ok for the republicans to do it but not the democrates nice one. As for Perry and the Farm, this is Texas so what is the issue who is really suprised by this. I have no doubt you look around and you will find more just like it or worse. TEXAS

        • 1 vote
        #5.4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:11 PM EDT
        Reply

        We can only hope that big Dick Cheney invites Perry on a hunting excursion.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#6 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:52 PM EDT

        How about a resolution for Obama's murdering a U.S. citizen?

        • 3 votes
        Reply#7 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 3:56 PM EDT

        You mean the American citizen that was in Yemen supporting al quaida? That one?

        • 3 votes
        #7.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:44 PM EDT
        Reply

        I'm not sure that a resolution condemning Governor Perry is the way to pursue this. While this name is certainly offensive, the Perry family leased this property and did not name it. Futhermore, I believe that there are many properties across the country with similar, offensive names.

        That being said, I don't know how the family could actually lease a property with such an offensive name. But, maybe that is just me. Furthermore, he seems to be unable to discuss the matter in a clear fashion. As a Presidential candidate, he should be able to answer these questions.

        Yes, by some accounts, President Obama was a member of Rev. Wright's church. And, while he discussed it, I'm not sure that he was much clearer than Governor Perry. However, Rev. Wright's comments were, and are, available for us to hear for all eternity; there's nothing that can be done to erase them. Nor, would we want to. On the other hand, the rock could have been discarded very easily, never to be seen again. I'm not sure why they didn't do that.

        Just my opinion. As I stated above, I abhor racism in any form. However, I don't think that a resolution condemning Governor Perry will accomplish anything. It is up to the GOP to start more forcefully denouncing these incidents. Not all Republicans are racist; not by any means. And certainly, there are Democrats who are racist. However, it seems to me that the GOP needs to do a better job of distancing itself from racism.

        On a side note, some Democrats, not in this case, but in others, need to be careful about crying racism over incidents that truly do not exhibit racism.

        • 6 votes
        #8 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:00 PM EDT

        If one doesn't own the property, one cannot destroy the property. And if the US Congress were to condemn every single remark or episode of what someone else considers to be offensive, that is all they would be doing.

        Accept this for what it is, an attempt to bolster Obama by tearing down Perry who had nothing at all to do with the rock in the first place.

        • 4 votes
        #8.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:04 PM EDT

        Go USA: You bring up a good point; they didn't own the property so they could not, without permission from the owner, discard the rock.

        And, I agree that this resolution is inappropriate and a waste of time.

        However, I do think that it is something that Governor Perry should address, just as it was necessary for President Obama to address Rev. Wright's remarks. The are some similarities and some differences between the two incidents.

        • 2 votes
        #8.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:14 PM EDT

        they didn't own the property so they could not, without permission from the owner,

        They could of chosen to take their BUSINESS elsewhere instead of returning for decades!

        • 6 votes
        #8.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:17 PM EDT

        He has already addressed it-

        The property was leased by his father.

        His father painted over the words.

        They have not held the lease since 2007.

        This is a trumped up story that gets plenty of space on this site since it takes up space that could be used to report on Solyndra, LightSquared, Evergreen, Tesla, Fisker Automobiles, or any of the other Dollars for Donors recipients.

        To say nothing of Fast and Furious.

        If Holder gets forced out, think they'll mention it? Nah. They'll run a story on what Palin ate for lunch.

        • 6 votes
        #8.4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:19 PM EDT

        Funny how nobody who brings up Rev. Wright is ever willing to post his actual statement...

        • 5 votes
        #8.5 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:26 PM EDT

        Aw look Fiesty finally gets it - Obama could have gone to a different church. Yet he, and his family kept right on coming back for 20 years.

        Here's the big problem libbies - every time you try to play a game with a GOP candidate, it'll come right back to President Obama.

        See, unlike before, he now has a record and the press is actually will to hit him.

        I trust you all saw Tapper take a couple of nice swings this morning at the presser.

        Hey - way to clue in old gal.

        • 5 votes
        #8.6 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:39 PM EDT

        Really, Feisty? The media and this congressman are just throwing more muck against the wall in hopes of it sticking. This was just grandstanding.

        Toasty - Here you go:

        – September 2001: “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied.”

        – September 2001: “We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.”

        – September 2001: “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because of stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own backyard. America is chickens coming home to roost.”

        – April 2003: “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing God Bless America. No! No No! God damn America … for killing innocent people. God damn America for threatening citizens as less than humans. God damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and supreme.”

        – December 2007: “Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary would never know that.”

        – December 2007: “Hillary ain’t never been called a @!$%#. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.”

        – Jan. 13, 2008: “Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.”

        – “Fact number one: We’ve got more black men in prison than there are in college. … Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run.”

        – "You cannot do terrorism on other people and expect it never to come back on you."

        – “We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional killers. … We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. … We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. … We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means. And … And … And! God! Has got! To be sick! Of this @!$%#!”

        – "To say “I am a Christian” is not enough. Why? Because the Christianity of the slaveholder is not the Christianity of the slave. The God to whom the slaveholders pray as they ride on the decks of the slave ship is not the God to whom the enslaved are praying as they ride beneath the decks on that slave ship."

        – "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

        – "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

        –"Barack knows what it means to be a black man to be living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain't never been called a n-----."

        • 3 votes
        #8.7 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

        "And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly, she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, not God Bless America. God damn America — that's in the Bible — for killing innocent people. God damn America, for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America, as long as she tries to act like she is God, and she is supreme. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent.."

        So tell me Spanky, what's controversial about condemning our nation's history of oppression, segregation, slavery, and murder? Sounds like a patriotic thing if you ask me, wanting our great nation to transcend its violent past.

        • 9 votes
        #8.8 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:42 PM EDT

        Thanks, Toasty, for the re-post for the idiots that pretend to not have seen it the first time.

        • 7 votes
        #8.9 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:59 PM EDT

        And now when it comes to treating successful people, the Democrats want her to fail.

        • 2 votes
        #8.10 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:03 PM EDT

        Then if Perry or the Perry family found the remark offensive and not entertaining they could have found a different property to lease. but I suspect that thought never came up.

        • 1 vote
        #8.11 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

        Why heck Toasty, perhaps you ought to direct that to Obama.

        The second that sound bite came out, he throw Wright under the bus and got as far away as possible.

        I trust yu have seen the things Wright has had to say about Obama since then? He's so super pleased.

        Toasty - why did Obama bail? Why, if what yu say is true, did not our first black pres. stand up for himself or Wright?

        Toasty?

        • 3 votes
        #8.12 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

        why did Obama bail? Why, if what yu say is true, did not our first black pres. stand up for himself

        Why does spanky keep asking pointless, inane questions?

        Why do Republican-supporting posters keep digging at Holder when the same or similar actions were committed and/or condoned by the Reagan, Bush I and the Bush II Administrations? MORE Republican double standards (which is actually class warfare?)

        Why do you call for sanctions against Holder for "lying to Congress" when we ALL know what Congress was told about Saddam and his WMD's, Spanky?

        and on, and on, and on. You know the scenerio: "...you guys did it first." Wasn't that your response last time I asked you about this stuff?

        • 3 votes
        #8.13 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:29 PM EDT

        Why did he bail, Spanky? The reason he didn't stand up for Wright's important words is the same reason he bends over backwards and caves to the teabaggers on EVERY issue. Obama is a pussy. Plain and simple. He waters down doing what's right because he's afraid that the teabaggers are going to attack him, somehow forgetting every time that he's a black man, so they will ALWAYS attack him.

        • 3 votes
        #8.14 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

        Why does spanky keep asking pointless, inane questions?

        I've been asking that same question for years... lol

        • 4 votes
        #8.15 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:27 PM EDT

        Maybe, Toasty...

        But it could also be that many are in for a great shock at some point because they have made the age-old error of mistaking kindness for weakness...

        Don't know yet, we'll have to see....

        • 4 votes
        #8.16 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:29 PM EDT

        I've been asking that same question for years... lol

        Thanks Feisty... glad I'm not the only one.

        When ol' Spank gets back on here, I'l like to ask her, "If a bird can fly, then why can't a fly bird?"

        Maybe she can relate? ROTFL!

        • 2 votes
        #8.17 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:33 PM EDT

        When ol' Spank gets back on here,

        Trust me - he won't be back, his technique is more akin to a sick sea gull swooping & pooping... ;o)

        I put him on ignore months ago - makes FR a much more pleasurable experience...

        • 3 votes
        #8.18 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:37 PM EDT

        [So tell me Spanky, what's controversial about condemning our nation's history of oppression, segregation, slavery, and murder?]

        Good luck getting an answer...just another redirect and a question...

        Spanky strives for adequacy...

        • 2 votes
        #8.19 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:57 PM EDT
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        By now we know Perry well enough to know if we want to be associated w/ such a person. This resolution is unnecessary and just gives his defenders a convenient distraction (I know you are but what am I!)  Let this go and concentrate on his other disqualifications.  Better yet, just step back and allow him to destroy himself.  He seems better at it than anyone else.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#9 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:01 PM EDT
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        Reply#10 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:03 PM EDT

        Great link, dangerfield. Question- are you wearing your flak jacket? Helmit?

        Trust me, you'll need 'em.

        • 2 votes
        #10.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:21 PM EDT

        How long have you been here again? As President Alfred E. Newman so prophetically stated "What, me worry?"

        Go check out the "Hymietown" video up thread...NoJoe you must know by now that I find most of the "debate" here to be unintentional humor...some intentional humor is definitely necessary...

        It's like the Cowsils' song Nig... er, I meant Indian Lake (Can I still say that?)

        • 3 votes
        #10.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:30 PM EDT

        Thanks for the earworm. . .

        What did I ever do to you?

          #10.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 8:33 PM EDT
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          Who cares, Perry is done. His stance on the Border issues and Illegals paying in-state tuition sealed his fate.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#11 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:08 PM EDT

          I'm a lefty, I live in Texas, and I loathe Rick Perry, but this is non-issue.  Perry didn't own the ranch or name the area in question.  There are SO many other things to go after Perry for, why focus on this nothing-burger?

           

          Those on the left should leave the teeth gnashing over non-issues to the half wits on the right.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#12 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:08 PM EDT

          I have done painting part time for quite a number of years. Please don't tell anyone where he bought his paint in 1980 - for paint to hold up that long and be beaten by not only the seasons, but also the sun. Geez, I'd be out of business.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#13 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM EDT

          I don't suppose you've ever heard of re-painting? It's what people do hen paint starts to fade.

          • 2 votes
          #13.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

          I don't suppose you read the part where they are claiming that it was put there in 1980, painted over and I'll be darned it just showed up again

          • 1 vote
          #13.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:34 PM EDT

          Peg: Gotta a source for your post? The Washington Post reported that the rock was painted over in the 1980s.

          • 2 votes
          #13.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:47 PM EDT

          Forgive me didn't state it correctly - you are correct, painted over in 1980. Still don't see how it could hold up that long.

          • 1 vote
          #13.4 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:52 PM EDT
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          Jackson "Demanded a recorded vote".  Typical Chicago thug Politician. I want! I want ! I want! Obama tought him well. On another note, I just saw that Mayor Rahm is going to rescind a "job killing" tax on large corporations in Chicago. I guess he decided he didn't want those jobs outsourced to another state. Go figure.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#14 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

          And all these rightwingnuts blast liberals for speaking out against racism. Figures.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#15 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:24 PM EDT

          With everything going on in this country, people hurting for jobs, and our House wants to slap Perry's wrist for a painted rock that he had nothing to do with. And I'm not a Perry fan - I think he is white trash.

            Reply#16 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

            Really? Do you routinely call Air Force pilots and governors white trash? What is so trashy about him? You can disagree with people without calling them names. It really is okay.

            • 3 votes
            #16.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

            Go USA pass that on to the right they seem rather accomplished and unwilling to give it up as well.

            • 1 vote
            #16.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:19 PM EDT
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            This entire ruckus was started by Cain not the dems. So all of you posting and screeching about Obama, or libs, or socialists - it was Cain!!!!

            • 4 votes
            Reply#17 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:46 PM EDT

            No it wasn't. Herman Cain was asked to react to the news. You are stating a lie.

            • 4 votes
            #17.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:49 PM EDT

            Go USA there you go. How about there mis informed as to were or who started this issue. A lie is an intentional deception, Mod Dem may be simply referring to something they heard well after the start of the story. Talk about quick to condem and now you call someone a liar shame on you for name calling.

            • 2 votes
            #17.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:22 PM EDT

            I didn't call anyone a name. I stated a fact that his/her post was a lie. When someone posts a definitive statement that is nonfactual, it is called a lie. Don't blame me; it's the definition of the word.

            • 3 votes
            #17.3 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:27 PM EDT
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            I am going to boycott Cracker Barrel!

            • 4 votes
            Reply#18 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:58 PM EDT

            I'm going to ostracize sugar donughts.

            (Osterize??)

            • 1 vote
            #18.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:01 PM EDT
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            This Idiots father is a race bating shakedown artist, just ask coca-cola, nascar etc. , etc. !!!!

            • 1 vote
            Reply#19 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:21 PM EDT

            Oh, I know?! I wonder if people can one day be smarter than cows?! They graze the same land and they are of different colors.

            Wait, I saw that on Barnyard the Movie.

            Nevermind carry on with your ignorant comments.

              Reply#20 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:29 PM EDT

              What difference would a resolution make? After it passed, there would still be as many white Republican racists in our government as before. They're born like that. Ask any teabagger.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#21 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 5:48 PM EDT

              Are you kidding me? These guys don't have anything better to do? It's offensive. It's painted over. It's broadcast. Move on already and tackle some bigger problems.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#22 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:04 PM EDT

              Is anyone surprised that the GOP wouldn't condemn racism?

              • 2 votes
              Reply#23 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:19 PM EDT

              Not a Perry fan but this is ridiculous, the guy is just leasing the property.

              Any time Jesse Jackson gets involved I immediately take the side he's against.

              Move on Congress.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#24 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:36 PM EDT

              So now we are going to condemn a governor with a good civil right record because someone printed a rumor. A report has an unnamed source who said he saw it. Perry said as soon as he leased the property they painted over the stone. If Democrats want to condemn the man let the source step forward and state his evidence. For all we know, the source could be Jesse Jackson Sr. It is time to put up or shut up. To try to condemn a man from hearsay and rumor is very low.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#25 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 6:37 PM EDT

              If I remember, Bachmann flat out lied about a little girl going retarded once she too the HPV immunization, she said that came from a woman at one of her town hall meetings, but she has never produced that woman, or if the woman really said it, she never came forward in Bachmanns' defense, which tells me it's a flat out lie. Most respected medical doctors and researchers in the country said, "that was the first they heard of that."

              But hey, with such a FLAT-OUT LIE, it's amazing ya'll are still supporting this woman.

              • 1 vote
              #25.1 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 10:53 PM EDT
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