Christie will not run for president

NBC's Jamie Gangel reports that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has decided to not run for president in 2012.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will announce that he will not run for president at a press conference Tuesday afternoon, sources told NBC News.

The Christie camp announced earlier that the governor would be making an announcement at a 1 p.m. EDT. NBC News' Jamie Gangel confirmed late Tuesday morning that the governor would make clear that he's not making a White House bid.

Click here to see a slideshow of Christie's rise through the political ranks.

Despite his insistence for the better part of 2011 that he wouldn't run – Christie joked in February that he didn't know what he could do to convince people he's not running, "short of suicide" – the New Jersey firebrand spent the better part of the past two weeks reconsidering his stance against seeking the presidency.

A previously-planned speech last week at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, at which Christie didn't to rule out running despite the audience literally imploring him to run, only sent speculation about his ambitions to a fever pitch.

All the while, Christie has received open encouragement from deep-pocketed donors and party luminaries who have argued that Christie's affable, if blunt, style would make him the best Republican to take on President Barack Obama next fall. "I think Chris Christie has been the guy that can get the conservatives on our side, but also take states like New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois and he can cut into the blue collar ethnic unions," Republican New York Rep. Peter King said last year.

Christie's reconsideration has been driven by lingering uncertainty among Republican voters about the party's current stable of presidential candidates, especially front runners Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, and Rick Perry, the conservative governor of Texas. Romney has performed well in polls of GOP voters' preference in a nominee, but has struggled to build on his early advantage in the primary campaign. Many conservatives had looked to Perry as an alternative to Romney, but the Texas governor's stumbles in recent debates, combined with questions about his record on immigration and Social Security, have raised doubts about Perry's candidacy.

"There are a lot of guys with a Romney bumper sticker on their desk, but are waiting to put it on their car," a Republican tied to the party's fund raising circuit said last week of the Christie waiting game.

Republicans beckoned toward a variety of potential GOP saviors to make a late entry into the campaign throughout the summer and early fall, but have failed to lure them into the race. "Very tough to put together a national campaign with just a few months to go before Iowa, New Hampshire, and the like," said Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, who received such encouragement, Tuesday on KPRC radio.

A Washington Post/ABC News poll released Tuesday found that Christie would be just as competitive against Obama as Romney or Perry; in a head-to-head matchup, Obama and Christie would be tied at 45 percent among registered voters. Adding to the encouraging numbers, 42 percent of Republican-leaning Americans said they would like to see Christie seek the GOP's nomination in 2012, while 34 percent oppose a bid by the New Jersey governor.

But that doesn't mean that Christie would have entered the race as an immediate favorite. Romney would still lead among Republicans, at 21 percent, according to the same poll, followed by Perry and pizza magnate Herman Cain at 14 percent. Christie would enter the primary campaign with the support of 10 percent of Republicans, the poll found.

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Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

More fun. IT just strengthens the field.

Given Obama's own admission - that despite his best efforts and a trillion dollars, things have gotten worse, it doesn't matter. He's toast.

In fact I pretty sure it'll be a landslide, a la Mr. Carter.

Christie?

Why not?

  • 29 votes
#1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:54 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJoe in AlbanyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I can't "weight" for the Nasty Redhead to kick your ass for taking her reserved number one parking spot.

Of course, maybe the FR Gods were shamed into suspending her for her "limp wristed" and "jerk off" posts on First Thoughts??

  • 23 votes
#1.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:04 AM EDT

Other than the Big Corporations that are making the most profits in US history, who could possibly be better off in a recession that has been stalled very cunningly by Republican Leaders, by their own admission?

Since 2009, McConnell and Co. have bragged to the Press that their goal was to stop President Obama.
GOPTP goals: creating more tax breaks for their benefactors, deregulating financial reform, environmental reforms, handing back the driver's seat to health insurers, offshoring, laying off workers, cutting Education to zero, research and tech to zero, etc.

With the Republican Party, it is all about the money going into their pockets and nothing about helping the 98%.

That, and their re-election and their corporate funding.

When the corporate masters say 'go ahead, crash the economy, so much the better for us to privatize', these amoral GOP congressional sheisters will go ahead and deliver it for them. Heck, they almost succeeded in closing the government down....3 times this year to get concessions they wanted. Who here seriously wants to live in service to the 1%?

They couldn't care less about you.

  • 76 votes
#1.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:05 AM EDT

I wouldn't say so. My pay has gone up, my taxes have gone down and I received $8000 for buying a home. As far as I am concerned, I am pretty pleased with this president.

  • 74 votes
#1.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:11 AM EDT

With the current batch of nutso Republican Candidates, it's obvious that the radical Right has taken over the party. What could have been an election for the Repubs to win will be a landslide for Obama.

Americans aren't stupid enough. We see through Repub tactics.

  • 58 votes
#1.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:12 AM EDT

Spanky, look at the 3 charts, and tell me things are worse, cause there not:

http://www.nationofchange.org/three-charts-email-your-right-wing-brother-law-1314715523

This does not strengthen the field at all, it shows how weak it will continue to be.

  • 21 votes
#1.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:17 AM EDT

Hmm...I wonder if Gov. Christie will now say "I'm running" just to make NBC look bad by saying he's not!

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:17 AM EDT
Comment author avatarBluelakeExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

For the last time...Gov. Christie does NOT run for anything! He walks..slowly...with a number of stops to catch his breath. Or he takes a limo. I heard he takes a limo to get to the bathroom.

  • 23 votes
#1.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

Wishful thinking or just naive?

You don't just win these things, you have to execute. The Republican field is flawed as the eye can see and thanks to the suggestion that the Tea Party is in charge of the GOP, a smart dem would run on "the alternative is NO"; that is the GOP brand plain and simple. A Romney is the smart choice but his problem is that he is...well...Romney. A Perry is Obama's only hope and a very real chance that he will get the nomination. You don't just lose these things because you are the bad candidate. Jimmy Carter Faced a liberal pile on via Ted Kennedy to weaken him and then a magnificent, seasoned Ronald Reagan to finish him off. Harry Truman ran against "No" and was written off so don't let history stop you at Carter. I am thinking you are just naive...not because you are but because you don't know.

Play the game, the WHOLE game.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

I don't know, Bart. Americans are pretty stupid.

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

Maybe Christie couldn't see his presence as 'strengthening the field'.

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:19 AM EDT

It amazes the hypocracy shown on these message boards. His weight is now the issue. Being made fun of by members of the 'party of inclusion'. The far left cant, or wont debate without getting personal. Making snide comments. Of course, since were talking about health issues....arent black men over the age of 40 more likely to suffer from heart disease? Why isnt this a topic of discussion? Oh, I get it. The far left has no time for opinions other than their own. They wont have a debate based on merit. They make comments like limp wristed, fat a@@, and so on. Very typical, and yet they are left to wonder why the Tea Partry is growing. Go figure

  • 12 votes
#1.11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:21 AM EDT

Todays teabaggers/rebub are all about benifiting the uber wealthy. Who knew Saint Ronald would be too liberal for the teabaggers?

See/hear Saint Ronal in his own words

  • 15 votes
#1.12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:22 AM EDT

Christie wouldn't have been able to last in the primaries. His positions on gun control and immigration are too moderate.

Unfortunately, the Republican primaries are going to be about who best fits the predetermined "conservative" positions. The candidates are trying show themselves as more conservative than all the others. While Christie's positions may be reasoned, they do not fit the agenda.

  • 9 votes
#1.13 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:22 AM EDT

The tea party is growing? The vast majority of Americans think the tea bags are all dried up

  • 27 votes
#1.14 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT

Too bad, I think he would have spoke his mind without pandering to the TEA NUTS...

Oh well, back to the "Lets see who can please the Tea Party Debates!"

  • 9 votes
#1.15 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT

Spanks,

Of course Christie won't run. He would drop dead if he tried. Should join the "Biggest loser" so he can get himself healthy in front of America. Lots of free press and then 2016 is around the corner. However I don't think he would ever make it out of a Republican primary. Way to liberal for the nutty side of your party.

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT

I seriously doubt that he can even run.

Christie is a joke, and I hope he's not getting paid to do all these press conferences he continues to make as governor of his state. He's worse than a woman going thru her monthly pms cycle.

  • 5 votes
#1.17 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:28 AM EDT

It's pretty clear that Christie has some skeletons in his closet that he knows would doom him under the intense scrutiny of a presidential campaign. There was no other reason not to run.

Obama will win in a close contest next year, IMO. Republicans may think he's the anti-christ or something, but most of the country will simply look at the alternatives and pick the known quantity, namely Obama.

  • 16 votes
#1.18 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:29 AM EDT

I think the GOP plans are working just fine come election day there will be million's to poor and living on the streets to get to a voting booth, if you and your family were living on the streets would you be concerned about voting? I don't think so, maybe that's the GOP motive to keeping our economy in the tank while their buddy's line their pockets while ruining our economy, who said money can't buy everything, it can sure buy a whole political party .......

  • 11 votes
#1.19 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:29 AM EDT

Amazing what passes for news in the MSM.

Christie SAID he would NOT run (many times already).

Why is it big news that Christie just did what he said?

Maybe this can be a "teachable moment" for the Liar-in-Chief?

  • 11 votes
#1.20 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:31 AM EDT

did anyone out there legitimately believe he would un for POTUS? I'm pretty sure he made this clear a few months ago. The man has been plying himself up for a VP bid the whole time imo. He's smart, he knows he's in the spotlight and he will an asset for the GOP candidate, if choses.

  • 3 votes
#1.21 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:31 AM EDT

a question for the left, like backhouse.

a lot of liberals are rich, filthy rich, like hollywood, like democrats in congress, and it is a fact that a huge percentage of wall street - the same people you are blaming or scapegoating - are democrats and give to the democrats.

so the question is, why do you think people like me, a conservative, who earns a modest living and am not by any measure rich, why do you say I vote for republicans (conservatives) because the 'money goes into their pockets', or whatever you are saying?

what's in it for me? why would I vote 'for the rich'? what's the gain for me? you really think this shallow? there is no brain power in believing this garbage? how does voting for conservatives make 'me rich'? how?

the truth is what you fully know. you just hate the truth, so you slur the messengers. what you oppose philosophically, you target with untruths.

to say, we vote for the rich, is so brainless it is astonishing. Michael Moore is filthy rich. why would I 'vote for the rich'? what does that do for me???!!! answer: the premise is stupid. it is marxist pap. and the money you on the left wasted in 'college' getting this pap spoonfed into your shrinking brains was exactly that - wasted. you wasted a ton of money paying a bunch of former hippie acid head shovel marxist feel-good but pointless and inane 'philosophy' as 'truth'. how pathetic.

look at all these 'protestors' who now say 'capitalism is to blame'. more marxism. idea: grow up. get a life and stop leeching on the govt. and blaming those who make their own way and don't live to be victims. grow up. you are the drag on the world. grow up.

  • 13 votes
#1.22 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

Mark R-638735

The tea party is growing? The vast majority of Americans think the tea bags are all dried up

The vast majority? Really? Where did you get your information? While I may not agree with the Tea Party (I just cant get past the religious right taking it over), they did what the left will never have the courage to do. Some members of the right didnt like the direction the Republican party was going...so instead of sitting around and complaining, they created their own party. While the left laughed at them, they were winning Congressional elections. While you call them names, they continue to gain support. Keep laughing and keep calling them names. Every time someone on the left calls them a name, another person donates money to their cause.

  • 7 votes
#1.23 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:34 AM EDT

@Govt_Issue,

hypocrisy, you have some nerve! You love Regan who said he would not like to see a millionaire pay less taxes than a bus driver. President Obama is saying the samething, but since President Obama is saying it, he is a socialist and reck the country. Anyone with a current brain knows he did not reck the country and that repukes give less than a piece of arse about helping anyone, unless it helps defeat President Obama. The repukes can't and won't govern because of that pledge and they all must be removed.

  • 11 votes
#1.24 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

The difference between Carter in 1980 and Obama in 2012 is that Carter had a viable opponent in Reagan. The GOP in 2012 could find a better candidate by drawing the name of a random American out of a hat.

  • 9 votes
#1.25 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT

I wonder how Christie not running will strengthen the field? It seems like it just muddles the muddy waters of the GOP primary. It doesn't matter who they pick, the strategy this year will be human corporations will pump as much money as possible into the republican coffers. Expect nasty attack ads that right wing bloggers will pretend are true.

  • 4 votes
#1.26 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:37 AM EDT

How long will it be before the media again trumps up a "Christie is running" meme?

He's said, over and over and over and over and over that he will not run.

Funny- but Hillary was taken at her word the first time she said no.

Kucinich was taken at his word the first time he said no.

Why are the rules different for the republicans? Hmmm?

As to Joe in Albany's comments, which I noticed were collapsed- maybe the intrepid reporters on this site could do a story on the Code of Honor- to whom it applies, and to whom it does not.

At least then we'll all be clear on the rules- and the exceptions thereto.

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT

It appears that the Repubs are losing their mojo. I mean, really...after throwing all of the current contenders under the bus by aggressively courting Christie, how are the top dogs going to go back to supporting any of the current candidates without the appearance of saying..."Well, you certainly aren't our first choice, but I guess you'll do."

  • 13 votes
#1.28 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT

I am with you KnightRider. My pay has gone up and I got $1200 for a nice, new AMERICAN car, a Ford Escape. I remember what the Republicans were going to do if they won: "Let the market sort it out."

In that scenario, my pay is not better and there is a chance that my family and I are living with my mother or (gasp!) my sister-in-law.

By the way, I love my Ford Escape. BUY AMERICAN!

  • 14 votes
#1.29 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT

I don't know if Christie will weigh in on the subject again, however he has added a huge amount of gravity to the conversation and I am certain he has the ability to tip the balance on the final selection of the nominee....that said it seems clear that the best way for him to continue to serve the public is to continue on his current treadmill and to forward his ideas on trimming the fat from government as he has been practicing in New Jersey and perhaps wait for a nod as VP.

  • 6 votes
#1.30 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT

I just want to leave a note for JoAnna, who twisted my words to create an accusation on the last thread that I was bigoted regarding Christie's weight.

Nothing could be further from the truth, or more ironic. If JoAnna really knew me, she would know I actually have an affinity for large men.

What I really said was that Christie was a bully, and even if you put aside his weight issue -- which I prefer to do -- he is too much of a hothead to be the leader of the free world.

I am glad he has heeded his own advice that he is not ready to run for president. In my opinion, he never will be ready, but that's because of his arrogant and overbearing disposition, and not because of his weight.

  • 10 votes
#1.31 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT

Ho-hum.

Romney/Rubio 2012.

  • 7 votes
#1.32 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT

Carianne hit the nail on the head.

"I guess you'll have to do"??? as the GOP candidate?

WTF!

That's who is running for the Republican Ticket? Voldmort? 'I guess you'll have to do' VS 'Obama'?

Yeah because my vote should be wasted on 'I guess you'll have to do'. Earn my vote please! Fix the economy, check. Be specific on how you would fix the economy, check! Play chicken with the Tea Party, nope.

Don't count you're eggs before they hatch. This race will definitely make late night more interesting indeed!

  • 3 votes
#1.33 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT

Why is this news? He's gone on record saying that he wasn't going to run. Big fricken deal!!!I don't believe he could take the pressure of the office for 4 years without some serious health problems.

  • 1 vote
#1.34 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:48 AM EDT

Spanky,

Keep Dreaming.

I'm not the biggest Obama fan, although I do believe he is the subject of some very unfair criticisms.

But given the current Republican candidate pool, Obama will coast to his second term.

55% or more. Don't believe me? lets check back in 13 months.

  • 16 votes
#1.35 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT

I love all the posts by the progressives that Obama is a sure thing in 2012. Do you really believe that, or is it false bravado. I inclined to believe the latter. When you open your eyes and wake up from the dream state regarding Obama, even you have to realize that your buddy Obama and his policies are failing miserably. So blame all the teabaggers you want, but the progressives have been in charge for awhile now, and no teabagger legislation has been enacted into law. So it's time to take an honest look in the mirror and accept the fact that Obama is a failure. The Republicans could dig up the decomposed body of "Tricky Dick" Nixon, and he would win in a landslide!

  • 3 votes
#1.36 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:51 AM EDT

I actually have an affinity for large men.

___________________________________________

AM: You must have been in heaven if you were watching Shemp Mathews 7:00 EDT Wiffleball Comedy Hour. The first segment had both ("all four or six"??) Michael Moron and Mark Penn on.

  • 5 votes
#1.37 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:56 AM EDT

Glotz, things have clearly not gotten worse. Look at the charts, they have improved but not enough to really bring the jobs back.

http://www.nationofchange.org/three-charts-email-your-right-wing-brother-law-1314715523

Do you really think that Americans are going to vote for Republicans that have blocked, stalled, and obstructed everything Obama has done?

  • 3 votes
#1.38 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:57 AM EDT

His announcement that he won't run for president in 2012 is fine, but millions of people want to know, will Christie run for president in 2012?

  • 4 votes
#1.39 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:58 AM EDT

Solutions, do you feel better now thats off your chest? Sit back away from the keyboard....take a deep breath and count to 10. Is that better? Now, please show me where I said those things. Where did I say that? It's easy to research...click on my name and it will show you my previous comments. I have nothing to hide. Unlike some people I dont delete or hide my previous posts. If I may make one suggestion....spell check works wonders.

So lets examine the points you tried to make in your post, shall we?

First off, Obama is claiming that millionaires should pay a larger tax rate. I disagree, I think there should be a flat tax on anyone making over 25k per year. Everyone pays the same rate. Those who make more will pay more in taxes. Close every loophole and have everyone pay what they should be paying. I have to tell you, this 'paying their fair share' thing sounds like kindergarten grammar to me.

Next, I am not claiming that Obama wrecked this country. Both parties had a hand in that. You can point the finger at the right, and they can point right back. You both would be right. What I am saying is that President Obama was the wrong person for the job. IMO, Clinton would have been twice the President he has been. Under different circumstances Obama might have been a good President...but he got in over his head.

Finally, you claim that Republicans only goal is to defeat him at every turn. Really? If you look at the current landscape in Washington, it is identical to the end of the Bush administration. Once again with the left calling anyone on the right stupid. Im not saying the right is totally innocent here, but if youre going to throw rocks, dont be offended if someone returns the favor. One last thing, this whole cant and wont govern thing really isnt accurate. Look at Harry Reid, how many bills has he tabled because they dont fit into his ideals? He wont even support the Presidents plans....so tell me, if Democrats even think he has bad ideas.......

I will be more than happy to debate issues, but being called a racist, tea bagger, idiot, scum bag and so on gets a little old.

  • 6 votes
#1.40 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:01 PM EDT

Matt I'm afraid you are dillusional. Even most of the president's most rabid leftist supporters admit he would get creamed if the election was today, regardless of GOP nominee. The more objective analysts all agree. He's in a free fall. I think there's a chance he drops out when he realizes he can't win, playing the victim card for the last time.

http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2011/08/22/economy-poised-to-make-obama-a-one-termer/

  • 5 votes
#1.41 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:01 PM EDT

You've got it, Richard. This is a purely media driven meme- Christie keeps saying no, and they keep right on ignoring him.

Why not? They have speculated that the "GOP field is in flux" distracts from Obama's failures. I guess there's nothing wore than having to admit that ignoring a candidate's record, ignoring his lack of experience, ignoring his associations, does not get you a viable president.

In fact, it gets you the disaster that is Obama.

  • 4 votes
#1.42 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:04 PM EDT

Eric, he had a free run for two years in 2009-2010. He made two major blunders, first he took a trillion dollars and spent it poorly. Then wasted the rest of his political capital on the Health-care bill. All the money that has been spent the last 2 1/2 years, and last quarter the best we could do is less than 1% GDP growth. Now that the sugar high of the stimulus and the Federal Reserve money printing is over,what do you honestly think will happen to the economy? So what if the Republicans stopped more of the same from Obama? It has not worked, an honest progressive should acknowledge that.

  • 4 votes
#1.43 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:11 PM EDT

One weakness in the US Constitution is the lack of a Vote of No Confidence that some countries have. If we had that provision here, how many think we would have Obama in office right now? Clearly the polls show a "no confidence" vote would pass and his administration would be forced to step down.

I think we would probably have a more centrist government if this were an option and both radical wings would be marginalized. A good thing in my opinion.

  • 2 votes
#1.44 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:17 PM EDT

Albany Joe:

AM: You must have been in heaven if you were watching Shemp Mathews 7:00 EDT Wiffleball Comedy Hour. The first segment had both ("all four or six"??) Michael Moron and Mark Penn on.

Heaven, indeed. I'm definitely a fan of Michael Moore's.

When it comes to brains and heart, I always say, the bigger the better. ;-)

  • 2 votes
#1.45 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:22 PM EDT

Republicans will win in 2012, if for no other reason than the Dems and Holder are on the hot seat regularly. Rep. Issa has them stuttering all over the place because of "Fast and furious" and the same goes for matters like Solyndra. The list of their disregard for rules of law and not consulting Congress is long. The Dems, the DOJ, Obama knew way more than what they have said they knew on these matters. The emails prove it. Eric Holder is being very vague and anyone can surmise he's LYING.

  • 4 votes
#1.46 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:22 PM EDT

The important news @ 1pm will be from Apple not Mayor McCheese.

  • 3 votes
#1.47 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

This is purely media driven with teases by christie... he definitely said NO! but maybe... he would think about it. First he said no, then gave a speech then said he'd give his decision.

The GOP field isn't in flux, the clown car of candidates is running all over the country telling us why they would allow sick people to die and why we should allow more mercury to be dumped in our drinking water. That's not flux, that's just how they are.

If Obama was a disaster, we wouldn't be doing as well as we are today, and we aren't doing that great. Thank god we have a leader like obama, we don't need christie and its fine with me that he's not running.

  • 2 votes
#1.48 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT

Anna Molly: I just want to leave a note for JoAnna,

AM: I wish I knew how to quit you.

Besides AM, the comment of your bigotry wasn't about Christie's weight (reading is fun-de-mental peaches). The bigot comment was about you saying "No thinking person" would ever consider Christie. What an absolutely incoherent thing to say. So only people that don't think support Christie? Wow. Tell that too that majority of voters in NJ that voted for the man.

How elitist of you AM. Liberals do know better, they picked Obama you know.

  • 2 votes
#1.49 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:29 PM EDT

Byl
If Obama was a disaster, we wouldn't be doing as well as we are today,

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are one or two folks that might disagree, though. lol

    #1.50 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:32 PM EDT

    eric - your links first paragraph pretty much sums up the value of the link...

    Your right-wing brother-in-law is plugged into the FOX-Limbaugh lie machine, and keeps sending you emails about "Obama spending" and "Obama deficits" and how the "Stimulus" just made things worse

    With 24 million Americans unemployed or underemployed, a 9.1% unemplyment rate, a stalling economy and an increasing number of Americans saying we are going in the wrong direction is hardly an endorsement for obamas effectiveness in the "hope and change" category. To bad obama chose to spend more time in campaigning than he did in governing.

    • 2 votes
    #1.51 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT

    Christie not running is not news- he's been saying that all along. Him making it official doesn't even make it official. sad that people won't leave him alone to do his job in NJ!

    This actually helps the GOP to now focus in on fund raising and moving the base. Romney & Perry still lead the field, with Cain coming up on the outside and Paul & Gingrich hanging in there. The rest: Bachmann, Santorum, Huntman, Johnson all can go home and wait for another day. Out of that last group- only Huntsman has a shot down the road.

    ABC & Rasmussen have Romney beating Obama head to head by 2 points in the latest polls. Perry in my opinion shot himself in the foot too many times and is bleeding out. Cain is "flavor of the month" though I do like him. Gingrich is the guy that probably could do the best job, but carries too much baggage. Paul and his foreign policy has no shot. He seems to be unaware that we now live in a global society and have to constantly be on guard with Iran, et al... "Leave them alone & they'll leave us alone" is not a solution. Laissez faire was a founders solution- but we live in different times now.

    13 months out and Obama is losing. But wait for the good news!

    While Obama is out touting a DOA Jobs bill- the states that took Stimulus money now have to start paying it back as of last Friday!! Where will it come from, you ask? Well, Small Business of course! Taxes will go up in the various states. What will that do, you ask? UNEMPLOYMENT will go UP to pay for said taxes!! So by the time November rolls around- we'll be hovering around 10%. So Obama is saying "Borrow MORE money and things will be GREAT!! By the way, you owe me from the last one..."

    Yep- Obama sure knows what he's doing...

    • 1 vote
    #1.52 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:40 PM EDT

    Tea Party = Nazis + KKK

    • 3 votes
    #1.53 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:49 PM EDT

    It is easy to blame this hoopla on the media but let's face it, the Chub Gov. has been fanning the flames himself. He has his "people" who leak stories, just like every other politician. I do feel sorry for the comedians because they are loosing good material for their jokes. And it is only 12:37 PM here in Ohio. Christie still could pull a fast one and say, Okay I'll be your savior. And in the same breath tell some one to shut the F*(k up, if he gets question he does not like. If Christie is the last bastion for the Tea Party led GOP, the only way President Obama can not be re-elected is to lose the election.

    Hopefully, he will honor his commitment to the very people who got him elected in 08. He needs to stop negotiating with the likes of Boehner and Cantor. He needs to create those jobs and defend unions. No I am not nor have I ever belong to a union. They do however aid the middle class. The United States is a "union" I do not understand why so many people are against unions. After all, approximately 10% of Americans are unionized.

    Unfortunately, approximately 1% of the people have the majority of the wealth and power.

    Wonder how that happened. Deregulation? Loopholes, Cronyism? Theft? Lies? Murder? I consider lying to invade Iraq murder. Killing of our soldiers and innocent Iraqis is murder. All for the shake of OIL. And before you "We love the Tea Party led Republicans" jump all over this post, President Bush himself said, "It is all about the oil!"

    I believe anyone stupid enough, to vote for the likes of George Bush once, let alone twice; gets what they deserve. Chris Christie would be a perfect president for illiterate voters, who cannot see beyond their own wallets.

    • 2 votes
    #1.54 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT

    Govt Issue

    First off, Obama is claiming that millionaires should pay a larger tax rate. I disagree, I think there should be a flat tax on anyone making over 25k per year. Everyone pays the same rate. Those who make more will pay more in taxes. Close every loophole and have everyone pay what they should be paying. I have to tell you, this 'paying their fair share' thing sounds like kindergarten grammar to me.

    It seems you have not been paying attention to your Fox News, as there are a few problems with your statement.

    First, you claim that anyone paying over $25k should pay a flat tax... Republicans are adamantly against this, because those under $25k make up 50% of non-tax payers. Be careful, you will be branded a "lefty liberal" with that comment. Granted, there are significant economic concerns when taxing those who make under $25k, including cost-of-living and disposable income analysis, consumer spending ramifications, demand reductions, etc... but that is beyond the comprehension for most Republicans.

    Second, the Republican party will never, ever, EVER "close every loophole". The Koch brothers will never let that happen. In fact, I am willing to put $10k down on a bet, right here, right now, that says the Republicans will NEVER "close every loophole". This is the primary reason they pay less in taxes, there are so many loopholes it is ridiculous. And they will use the "job creator" excuses to justify the need for loopholes that reduce their taxes to almost nothing. Don't believe me? Take the bet. $10k, right here. Republicans will NEVER close every loophole, it will not happen. Put your money where your mouth is.

    Your argument for a flat tax will ONLY work if the two previous points, excluding those under $25k and removing loopholes, are also implemented. As I demonstrated, the GOP will never, EVER, implement those ideas... so it will not work. Implementing a flat tax without the other two points will only make things worse by further reducing revenue and consumer spending.

    • 4 votes
    #1.55 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:57 PM EDT

    confused, please show us the proof behind your posts....or is this just another left wing nutjob going off the deep end? I will at least congratulate you on your ability to construct a simple math problem...sort of. Are you sure it's not Tea Party + KKK = Nazis?

      #1.56 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:00 PM EDT

      For me life is good with President Obama in charge.

      • 1 vote
      #1.57 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:05 PM EDT

      Eric,

      Do you really think that Americans are going to vote for Republicans that have blocked, stalled, and obstructed everything Obama has done?

      Yes. They will. Many of them believe that keeping Obama from doing the things he wanted to do was the absolute correct thing to do. The main reason we have three branches of government is to keep the others in check. If those in Congress believe that the President is leading us into financial ruin, it is their duty to do everything possible to stop it. It is simply naive to believe that much of the country does not support the efforts to stop President Obama from implementing the things he wants to do. I wouldn't start planning his next innaugural ball if I were you.

      • 2 votes
      #1.58 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:19 PM EDT

      Christie has said, over and over that he wasn't going to run. He said he wasn't READY to run. He needed more experience. HOW REFRESHING, someone who actually values gathering EXPERIENCE. WANTS to gain experience!

      Too bad Obama's inflated ego got in the way, and he was too star struck by his created image, to admit that he had NO governing experience. Wasn't about the country, it was about HIM. When America took home the pretty package the Dems. created, and opened the wrapping, it wasn't anything like what we were promised or ordered. Obama's been "winging it" ever since. Time to send that package back.

      • 1 vote
      #1.59 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:26 PM EDT

      Newly Independant,

      Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I admit to leaning to the right...but not being a blindly loyal Republican. My main problem is that we have to choose between the far left and the far right. There ARE a lot of people in the middle. I really dont see how a flat tax will happen along with closing the loopholes. I was merely stating what I would like to see. I know its a pipe-dream, but its what I want. I would actually prefer anyone under 30k per year be exempt and raising Cains 9-9-9 to 10-9-9. (waiting for the conservative backlash)

      I actually laughed when you said I might be branded a liberal. I already have by some of my more 'conservative' friends....but then again Im also a Tea bagging SOB who has it out for children, the poor and the elderly to my liberal friends.

      There HAS to be a middle ground. We can surely eliminate a lot of wasteful spending while taking care of our citizens who need the help. We can have a strong national defense and a strong education system.

      • 1 vote
      #1.60 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:26 PM EDT

      Job1- inflation from QE2 & QE3 haven't kicked in yet. Life will not be good then...

      • 2 votes
      #1.61 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:35 PM EDT

      For me life is good with President Obama in charge.

      You clean up @!$%# for a living?

      • 3 votes
      #1.62 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:27 PM EDT
      Reply

      So given Holder's perjury, you think we'll get a little something on Gun Runner?

      Fiesty, Amy or Drive By - you all posted over at Fox this morning? Drive By is right, you really, really should. They will love you over there.

      • 8 votes
      #2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:57 AM EDT

      Holder will just say what Reagan and all the Republicans have always said, "I work on so many things. I just don't remember this."

      • 15 votes
      #2.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:12 AM EDT

      Reagan??????.....Whatever happened to blaming Bush????

      • 5 votes
      #2.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:55 AM EDT

      I see the freshly re=registered troll is hard at work again today. IReckon he won't last long.

      • 7 votes
      #2.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:09 PM EDT

      OMG...Leave Christie Alone , he's not interested in being the Stupid GoP Candidate, give it to the other Bimbos you got running.

      Gosh, what a bunch of Gop Stalkers

      • 8 votes
      #2.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:23 PM EDT

      Rorschach.....Whatsamatta......you can dish it out but you can't take it?

      • 1 vote
      #2.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:28 PM EDT

      lol progressivegirl!

      How are they supposed to crawl back to the same old gop candidates after being tempted by the fruits of another? There will have to be an october surprise so the gop can get together behind (anyone!)

      Then once they have been anointed by the tea party, obama can be re-elected and the right can start whining again.

      • 5 votes
      #2.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:31 PM EDT

      The guy has said he will NOT run. He has never said otherwise. He has never even hinted otherwise. The media cannot seem to grasp this concept. This is not the first press conference he has held to say he will not run! This is the media with an agenda. Nothing less. Get a clue!

      • 8 votes
      #2.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:35 PM EDT
      Comment author avatarPantycricketExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      So the fat "Situation" isn't running..... maybe the Morman and the Ni---rhead can unite the GOP. lol

      • 2 votes
      #2.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:46 PM EDT

      Tea Party = Nazis + KKK

      • 5 votes
      #2.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:50 PM EDT

      I'm with you Kyzzyxx I've never quiet got what the deal is here. I don't recall him ever saying anything other than "I'm not running." But even if he did, I think a significant part of the GOP would turn on him instantly. He can be pretty liberal on social issues. And for much of the GOP that's the most important thing. Not all of course, but enough.

      • 1 vote
      #2.10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:01 PM EDT

      confused-3012211-

      You're not confused.

      • 1 vote
      #2.11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:02 PM EDT

      Remember how Reagan had Jelly Bellys in the White House? This guy would demand a Twin Peaks doughnut spread every day.

        #2.12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:11 PM EDT

        I don't know if Christie will weigh in on the subject again, however he has added a huge amount of gravity to the conversation and I am certain he has the ability to tip the balance on the final selection of the nominee....that said it seems clear that the best way for him to continue to serve the public is to continue on his current treadmill and to forward his ideas on trimming the fat from government as he has been practicing in New Jersey and perhaps wait for a nod as VP.

        • 2 votes
        #2.13 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:27 PM EDT

        IReckon2012

        Rorschach.....Whatsamatta......you can dish it out but you can't take it?

        Dish what?

        Just observing that another of the wannabe-stalker types who insist on re-regging here after making asses of themselves and getting kicked out again, and again...

        .... appears to be doing it again.

        It's a rather pathetic way of begging for attention. Must be awfully lonely down in Mom's basement, churning out little puffs of look-at-me anonymous flatulence in cyberspace.


        • 2 votes
        #2.14 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

        .

          #2.15 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:22 PM EDT

          Rorschach.....You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about or whom you are addressing....but let's face it, that is obviously not very important to you is it? However, your insults speak volumes about who you are and what you are made of and it is for everyone here to see. The activity on FIRST READ has dimished considerably in recent months and ny Feisty's own recent admission. You are an example of why participation here is falling off and the quality of the interaction has diminished. Rest assured that the powers to be at FIRST READ are taking notice.

          • 1 vote
          #2.16 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:24 PM EDT

          What got you banned the last time, "IReckon"?

          Which identity was that?

          And the one before that?

          And do you accept personal responsibility for the behavior that got you banned?

          • 1 vote
          #2.17 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:39 PM EDT
          Reply

          Christie never would have won ...he isn't what people seek ...he is every woman's loud mouthed X husband !

          • 47 votes
          #3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:04 AM EDT

          he is every woman's loud mouthed X husband

          LOL - you forgot verbally abusive! ;o)

          • 34 votes
          #3.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:10 AM EDT

          Does every woman have an ex-husband?

          • 5 votes
          #3.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:12 AM EDT

          I find when i write.. sometimes less says more ...it gets everyone thinking !

          • 5 votes
          #3.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

          ex-husband or ex-brother-in-law, what's the diff? That was Christie.

          • 17 votes
          #3.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:16 AM EDT

          You have never had a real husband (MARRIED 39 YEARS)

          • 3 votes
          #3.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

          Say it:

          What people are you talking about? Of course he is not what you and Democrats seek. He would not be running as a Democrat anyway so what is it to you whether he runs or not.

          Some of you and POLITICIANS use that phrase "The American people" to loosely. No one speaks for ALL of America, not even the POTUS. When you speak of people; it is more than likely the people YOU know.

          • 10 votes
          #3.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT

          "The American People" is a term used in a 100/1 ratio by the RE-peat-the-lie-to-the-PUBLIC-ans as compared to the Democrats. It is NOT an inclusive term. The Democrats usually speak of doing something legislatively for the good of "all Americans". "The American people" is rightwing code for excluding anyone with a hyphen between what they really are and the American suffix they have adopted.

          • 7 votes
          #3.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT

          Including South Americans, as well as every other 'can that hops the fence.

          • 2 votes
          #3.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:50 AM EDT

          You think so, huh?

          • 1 vote
          #3.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:51 AM EDT

          You have a point middle, it doesn't matter who is running for the GOP primary, the right has not put up one leader. I'm glad the dems have a real leader in pres. obama. He will be the one running as a democrat. The president is the one who represents the American people, even when it was W or Clinton, regan or obama. that's what they are doing. I have found that obama represents more people than a lot of leaders have. He is working for most of us whether we are helping or not.

          • 17 votes
          #3.10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:56 AM EDT

          I'm thinking that Christie's taken a long, hard look at the odds for 2012 and decided he didn't like what he saw.

          If he though he was a shoo-in to win, provided he got the nomination, he'd have gone for it.

          I give the guy credit for being politically savvy.

          • 9 votes
          #3.11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:10 PM EDT

          Christie's decision should not come as a surprise. It wasn't a surprise to me because I didn't think he would run. He didn't want to run, he said he wasn't "ready" to lead, his heart wasn't in it. The only difference between this latest consideration and the previous ones was simply that he did not want to be dismissive of those asking and begging him to run because when and if he does decide to run for president, he will need those people.

          • 7 votes
          #3.12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:12 PM EDT

          lol, he is kinda mouthy

          • 3 votes
          #3.13 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:24 PM EDT

          Say it isn't so: "Christie never would have won ...he isn't what people seek ...he is every woman's loud mouthed X husband !"

          Christie would have been a spectacular President and everyone knows it ( except the kool aid drinkers) ! He says what he means ( unlike Oblabla) and carries out what he says he'll do. Christie works with the "other side" and still gets things done. You call him a bully , I call him the man IN CHARGE. Donald Trump always says that the Chinese and the OPEC nations are taking advantage of the U.S. and Christie is the guy to turn all that around. I am disappointed he is not running but I think he elevated the dialogue the rest of the candidates will have now .

          • 4 votes
          #3.14 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:31 PM EDT

          Donald Trump always says that the Chinese and the OPEC nations are taking advantage of the U.S. and Christie is the guy to turn all that around.

          We need a president who will listen to others besides Donald (Cerebrovascularly Insufficient) Trump!!!

          • 7 votes
          #3.15 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:49 PM EDT

          At this point I'd rather have mouthy than the kind of guy that writes the kind of things on rocks that were found at perry's place :|

          • 3 votes
          #3.16 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT

          Canadian Dave,

          "You're Fired!!"

          Oh, and

          Tea Party = Nazis + KKK

          • 2 votes
          #3.17 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT

          prog-girl, I am conservative. What is your definition of conservative. Just curious.

          • 1 vote
          #3.18 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:56 PM EDT

          BREAKING NEWS!

          The guy who's said he isn't running for the last 6 months ISN'T RUNNING!

          Shocking.

          • 5 votes
          #3.19 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:04 PM EDT

          LEONA-2986819

          I think he elevated the dialogue the rest of the candidates will have now .

          It wouldn't take very much to elevate the dialogue the candidates are having.

          • 2 votes
          #3.20 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:09 PM EDT

          It does not really matter who runs against Obyema. In a debate what is he going to say about the:

          Economy

          Unemployment

          Foreign policy

          Domestic policy

          Deficit

          Etc...

          Those of you who has some ideas on what he will say in a debate, maybe you can give him a call and coach him.

          Herman Cain 2012

          • 1 vote
          #3.21 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

          Herman Cain just might have a chance to win the nomination now that Christie's out. The tea party will have to back him; just to prove they are all inclusive...except for gay and lesbians, immigrants and Mormons, and working tax payers. My question again for anyone that's a tea party participant: With local taxes and fees increases, where is your outrage?

            #3.22 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:33 PM EDT

            TheRealChris: "It wouldn't take very much to elevate the dialogue the candidates are having."

            Why don't you just worry about the dialogue Obama is having with the American people since my guess is you won't be voting republican anyway. You remember......

            " ACORN will get out the vote" ( with added help from the New Black Panthers at the polls)

            "let the millionaires and billionaires pay" ( hey Jeff Immelt/GE, Obama's glad YOU didn't pay any taxes)

            "while the rich get all the brakes" ( Obama took 5 million from Goldman Sachs in 08)

            " GITMO prisoners like KSM deserve a 'fair trial' in federal courts" ( let's drop a bomb on Awlaki ! )

            "I will rise above the partisan bickering" ( BUT the Repubs can sit in the back)

            "our borders have never been this safe" ( sshhhhh, we gave weapons to the Mexican cartels)

            "invest in the future" ( too bad these "green" companies will probably lose billions!)

            • 2 votes
            #3.23 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

            Among the bitch a moaners, there are few who have the guts to pick a man or woman against the President. The no crowd usually just cops out w/ abo or some such crap from those who have nothing and nobody to offer as alternative. Now that the gop field is set, lets start getting some positive alternatives and specific support of those alternatives. If not Obama, whom and why?

              #3.24 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:06 PM EDT
              Reply

              The headline this morning that read; 'Will Governor Christie Jump Inn' still has me giggling!

              Governor Fat A@@ couldn't jump over a dead cat to avoid falling let alone have the energy to run a winning campaign!

              Imagine the images of him huffing & puffing while climbing the stairs of his campaign jet! lol

              You could say he crumbled under his own weight...

              • 36 votes
              #4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

              Spot on Feisty !

              • 22 votes
              #4.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:11 AM EDT

              So, who will be next on the Tea Peoples list for a candidate?......

              Perhaps there will be a Halloween Surprise!

              • 18 votes
              #4.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:22 AM EDT

              So, who will be next on the Tea Peoples list for a candidate?......

              Looks like their back to begging Bible Spice...

              The Halloween Surprise will be another one of her brood is knocked up out of wedlock! ;o)

              Two down... three to go!

              • 16 votes
              #4.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:24 AM EDT

              That's it...attack someone based on physical attributes. I'm voting for the prettiest man.

              • 5 votes
              #4.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:24 AM EDT

              Haven't been on the Comments' pages recently; good to see the wonderfully prompt and ubiquitous Feisty Redhead still active and on point. Perhaps "roll up" or "bounce in" would have been a better header.

              • 4 votes
              #4.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:31 AM EDT

              The Halloween Surprise will be another one of her brood is knocked up out of wedlock! ;o)

              Feisty, that's too funny.......Heck, the Wasilla Village Idiot may have another kid herself..you know, motherhood and all that.......on the campaign trail!...Palin 2012.....

              • 8 votes
              #4.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:32 AM EDT

              Ah Fiesty,

              always there with usseless and insulting language.

              since when is the ability to run a marathon a prerequisite to being President???

              We've had many portly Presidents, like Roosevelt.

              Guess what, standing at a press conference, sitting on Air Force one, and dining with dignitaries isn't physically demanding

              Plus you can almost guarantee Christie would be wasting time out of the golf course, since he doesn't seem the physical type.

              Of course we can expect Fiesty's inflammatory language will remain posted, while other posts are removed by a biased monitor/delete system on MSNBC

              • 11 votes
              #4.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:37 AM EDT

              Gee, seems like everyone and their dog is throwing in their hat on the GOP side does that say something like there is no real contender .....

              • 7 votes
              #4.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:37 AM EDT

              I live in NJ and love that Christie (whom I voted for) got a lot of done in this state in such short time. Though I generally vote Democrat, I would re-elect him for governor and may vote for him in a presidential general election....and that is the problem that the Republican Party has right now...Christie could win a general presidential election but could never survive the primary...he's just not right wing lunatic enough to make it. He couldn't get enough votes in southern states which are passing laws against "sharia law" which Christie has already said is "crazy and (I'm) tired of dealing with the crazies." He's left of Obama on gun control and immigration which will not win him southwestern states and his world views are yet unknown for a lot of others. He believes in civil unions which the base of Republicans are adamantly against.

              What is more telling is that the major campaign donors are looking to Christie instead of whats in the field now which tells you a lot about how strong they are against Obama....Perry fizzled out and Bachmann is becoming more irrelevant everyday. Cain has some ideas about the economy which would put a lot of accountants out of work and make some sense but he is essentially a single issue candidate. Romney is consistent and has a greater chance of grabbing independent voters but whose history is very moderate compared to the nomination he is seeking. Paul will not win...period.

              • 6 votes
              #4.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:37 AM EDT

              Fisty:

              You are no lightweight your damn self.

              • 3 votes
              #4.10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT

              people keep talking about all of the republicans in the hunt for the nomination but four years ago there were still 6 democrats running. what is the big difference?

              • 2 votes
              #4.11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:55 AM EDT

              people keep talking about all of the republicans in the hunt for the nomination but four years ago there were still 6 democrats running. what is the big difference?

              This is too easy...like shooting fish in a barrel!

              The difference is that the Democrats were all for government OF, By, and FOR The People and

              Republicans are for no government, but a country run by religious zealots while they incorporate the USA.

              • 12 votes
              #4.12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:06 PM EDT

              Touche Redhead, have your fun, but the Christie news will fade, and the electorate will refocus it's attention to the failed progressive policies advocated by Obama. Good Luck!

              • 5 votes
              #4.13 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:38 PM EDT

              diff was we liked our field

              • 1 vote
              #4.14 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:40 PM EDT

              Christie keeps saying NO and the GOP keeps saying "will you run."

              This scenario is an EXCELLENT example of the fact that the GOP has NO listening skills.

              That is why what the people say falls on DEAF ears, with this group of "do nothings".

              If they can not hear their own, they do not hear the rest of us.......never will.

              • 8 votes
              #4.15 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:56 PM EDT

              Christie may be hefty in body size, but he sure isn't the typical republican "fathead".

                #4.16 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:59 PM EDT

                Christie is nobody's fool.

                He belongs to all of us.

                • 1 vote
                #4.17 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:10 PM EDT

                HermanCain - The businessman that is the up and coming Republican saviour......fizzle out Herman Cain

                Ron Paul - Rah Rah Rah

                Sarah Palin- Run Sarah run, you are the republican saviour. Fizzle out Sarah Palin

                Ron paul - rah rah rah

                Michelle Bachman - She can appeal to the TP and is a huge fundraiser, michelle is the Republican Saviour.....fizzle out Michelle Bachman

                Tim Pawlenty - Who?????

                Ron paul - Rah rah rah (still from the same 10 supporters)

                Newt Gingrich - yea, Newt's the ticket, he knows how this game is played. He's the republican saviour. Off into the Greek sunset fades Newt.

                Ron Paul - Rah Rah (must have lost one)

                John huntsman - yea, he't the ticket he can give Obama a run for his money. huntsman, where is the sunset? I can't find it.

                Run Rick Run! Perry is "the man" he's unbeatable, hurry Rick, it's almost sunset, your ride is waiting.

                LOL

                • 3 votes
                #4.18 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT

                Christy at least deserves intelligence points for staying away from the barnyard that is the 2012 Republican slate. I'm no fan of most of his positions, but as for his weight -- big deal, many Americans are the size of an RV, and Christie also lacks that wall-eyed, Jesus-is-talking-to-me-right-this-very-second look most evident in Mrs. Bachmann.

                My dad had an album by a Seventies comedy troupe called the Firesign Theater. One of their routines involved a fake Presidential candidate, Papoon, whose campaign motto was "Papoon for President: Not Insane." The GOP might want to consider this angle re whatever organism they slap onto the 2012 ballot.

                • 1 vote
                #4.19 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT

                So now that we can use name calling and slurs for Christie, then can we be ok with calling Obama the N-word then?

                  #4.20 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:08 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  uh ohhhhhhhhhhh..........WHAT NOW? lol......

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

                  The jeep ride to inspect the NG troops the other day was too much for him and is what convinced him not to run....er, or maybe he thought he actually had to "run" for office!

                  • 3 votes
                  #5.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:51 AM EDT

                  Really, like this is a big surprise. Would you run with the "wacky pack?"...

                    #5.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:09 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    So NBC think they know the answer when Christie said he would let us know at 1:00 PM. Why would Christie let the liberal news know he's answer first?

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

                    Christie has been saying "No" for months. My favorite was when he asked if he'd have to commit suicide to convince folks he isn't running. Let's see if he slashes his wrists at 1 pm.

                    • 9 votes
                    #6.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:13 AM EDT

                    lol liberal news! I love how anything that is left of paul is liberal. What a tired old line that is so obviously false.

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:16 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    I'm really shocked. He's only said no more than two dozen times.

                    • 17 votes
                    Reply#7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

                    lol yeah, was gonna say... far as I could tell the media were the ones that told everyone he might be running in spite of his saying no repeatedly. This isn't that big of a news story for everyone that wasn't delusional....

                    • 8 votes
                    #7.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

                    Last week after Christie's speech at the Reagan Library, I watched Chuck Todd report on Nightly News saying that Christie had left the "door open", he showed the clip of Christie's words to the lady who urged him to run but left off the end of that comment where he said that just because he hears their words and understands their wishes doesn't mean he should run. He said NO repeatedly that night yet Chuck Todd and the rest of the media continued to look for subtle differences and repeat something that really wasn't said.

                    • 6 votes
                    #7.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:28 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    It looks like the Republicans are running out of "Flavors of the Month."

                    Seriously, once the voting public has a chance to match up whatever the Republicans decide to run they will do what they did in 2004 - elect an incumbent for lack of a more attractive alternative.

                    • 15 votes
                    Reply#8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:07 AM EDT

                    They've still got cartons of Peachy Palin, Jujube Jeb Bush, Huckleberry Huckabee, and Ruby Red Rubio left.

                    • 15 votes
                    #8.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

                    And Rove and Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dumb Koch are still willing to pay for anyone to let them be their puppet masters!

                    • 8 votes
                    #8.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:53 AM EDT

                    Flovors of the month? The 8 people that tried to win the Democratic nomination were "flavors" Can you even name one of them? I bet you can't (without Google) Remember John Edwards? The guy who cheated on his dying wife, oh and Dodd who refinanced his home with really good rates only AFTER he assisted Countrywide bank in getting subprime assistance. And Richardson, who did withdraw, only after he got caught doing some shady business in New Mexico. Sounds like 2008 all over again, doesn't it??

                    • 2 votes
                    #8.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:57 AM EDT

                    Wrong, Jeff. Clinton, Obama, Dodd, Biden, Gravel, Kucinich, Richardson, Edwards.

                    FYI, it was Palin and the GOP who started the "flavor of the month" description. There was no flavor of the month for democrats or republicans in 2007-08.

                    • 7 votes
                    #8.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:31 PM EDT

                    whoa jeff settle down, if its time to stop "blaming bush" you should probably get over the democratic nominees.

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:59 PM EDT

                    it will never be time to stop blaming Cheney/Bush. they have screwed us and our children for at least fifty years, if we make it through that long.

                    • 4 votes
                    #8.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:18 PM EDT

                    Sure weemee...don't bother to blame any of the Democrats that were around then either... Nice and fair...but then again that is what I would expect from a Democrat... And as for screwing our children, Obama has screwed us for even longer...not just our children, but our children's children...

                      #8.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:57 PM EDT
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                      dont worry guys he can still slim down for the next presidential cycle after my guys (Obama/Biden) destroy whomever gets the republican nomination in 2012...

                      • 21 votes
                      Reply#9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:08 AM EDT

                      Since you are slurring others then you wouldn't mind if I took a shot at the president, right?

                        #9.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 7:40 PM EDT

                        Seriously, JK1963...????????????

                        You want to "take a shot at the President".........????????????????????

                        Your rhetorical choices should garner you a couple of visits from the Secret Service. Well done.

                        Is it any surprise that you incorporate JFK's assassination and date in your chosen moniker?

                          #9.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:25 PM EDT

                          You are loon, Paul... Ok..just for the record, I should be more clear in that if you are hurling insults and slurs towards a large heavyset person, then it's ok for me to hurl insults and slurs at the president, right? I mean if you liberals can be so insensitive then it's ok for everyone else to be insensitive as well, right? But of course you can't read for the intent of my meaning and assume that I'm advocating violence. It's nice to know exactly how your warped works and the default assumptions you make about a comment or a person...

                            #9.3 - Wed Oct 5, 2011 1:22 AM EDT

                            And Paul, you moron, did you happen to think that it is my initials and the year of my birth? Or are you looking for conspiracies around every corner? You know, I bet, if someone told you that the world was flat you would believe them as well...Geesh...Grow up!

                              #9.4 - Wed Oct 5, 2011 1:30 AM EDT

                              We'll be happy to hear what the Secret Service has to say about your choices. I imagine it is you who they will be telling to grow up.

                              Christie is an advocate for personal responsibility, yet he is an irresponsible parent and example to youth by displaying his inability to control his appetite, and addiction to high carb foods. He is a hypocrite of the first order.

                                #9.5 - Wed Oct 5, 2011 6:41 PM EDT

                                Well...Paul, obviously you have proven that the liberal mantra is that of being tolerant is something well beyond your grasp. And gee...here it's been a day and half and no knock on my door. It seems clear that people with brains could have read my comment without being paranoid. You really take the cake...so I suppose when Obama used to smoke and his addiction to nicotine while his wife promotes a healthy lifestyle makes him an equal hypocrite of the first order?

                                  #9.6 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 12:24 AM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  American politics is too sarcastic and impudent as it stands.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:09 AM EDT

                                  dont worry guys he can still slim down for the next presidential cycle after my guys (Obama/Biden) destroy whomever gets the republican nomination in 2012...

                                  • 16 votes
                                  Reply#11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:09 AM EDT

                                  I see lap-band surgery in Christie's future.

                                  • 10 votes
                                  #11.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarDamage123Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  I see rectal surgery in Obama's future-- that's what it will take to remove his head from out of his a**.

                                  Later, he may need some plastic surgery in the same area to smooth over all the chapping caused by Chris Matthews and the people on this site.

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #11.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:37 AM EDT

                                  LMAO

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #11.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:41 AM EDT

                                  No lap-band surgery, Amy. No Chris Christie. Black Biker, you are right-on.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #11.4 - Wed Oct 5, 2011 7:42 PM EDT
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                                  Big Fat Hairy Deal!

                                  • 6 votes
                                  Reply#12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:10 AM EDT
                                  Comment author avatarDamage123Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                  Ya know, there are rumors floating around lately that Obama may decline to run again. Just rumors but, hey. If that happened, he would say that it was for the "good of the country" (divisions and dissension and all), which would be BS since, like all pols, he has a HUGE ego. It would be because he can't take the pressure anymore.

                                  The criminal Eric Holder needs to go now! Maybe he can finally find the time to marry Oprah. Or is that...." Nevermind. Anyway. He was a stupid, anti-American a-hole when he was Clinton AG. Get his sorry azz outta there.

                                  • 11 votes
                                  Reply#13 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:10 AM EDT

                                  racist, huh? GO stand over there with all Hank Williams Jr.

                                  • 12 votes
                                  #13.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

                                  Purnell, having a choice of various flavors to choose from is better than having no choice at all.

                                  Your Campaigner in Chief has just about secured the position of the one and only unfortunately which means he's and his party are well done and crispy.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #13.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

                                  Were you talking to me, Purnell? Show me where I said anything racist. Again, you all are so accustomed to throwing that word around that you don't even know what it means anymore. In fact, it's lost all it's meaning. To you people, a racist is simply anyone who criticizes a Black person.

                                  So show me where I said something racist. For that matter, show me where Hank Jr said anything racist. You can't. Now run along and play.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #13.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT

                                  I've actually met a lot more black people that were racist vs white people that were racist... just sayin.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #13.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

                                  oh, damage

                                  you really shouldn't believe the rumors the new jersey nutjob starts,...she's stated for years that he will resign in shame,...

                                  ain't happenin'. But it apparently helps her sleep at night.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #13.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT

                                  @Brokinarrow,

                                  Why do you think black people are more racist than whites?

                                  Better yet! how could they be? Didn't we make slavery a great source of labor in America?

                                  And it lasted 300 years. Africans American have only been free for150 years or less. To my account they have 150 years to equal the racism inflected on them back to us, it's only fair right?

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #13.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:45 AM EDT

                                  I'm guessing you are talking about the poster known as NoJoe etc...? Funny. I didn't see this rumor on this site. It was in two other places. Sorry.

                                  Is Beverly here today or is it Bingo Day at Shady Acres Hopital? Wanted to see if she had any more racist terms to use on Herman Cain. Yesterday, she called him an "oreo". He sent me an email and said to call her a "nappy-headed ho."

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #13.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT

                                  marinmom

                                  I don't know, Bart. Americans are pretty stupid.#1.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

                                  Unfortunately, you are right marinmom.

                                  Too many Americans are politically naive and stupid.

                                  It is the stupidity of Americans - that sailed these GOP and Tea Party extremists into political offices.

                                  We forget "history," "hope for the best in the present" and we are shortsighted concerning "the future.

                                  We are bonded to self punishment.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #13.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:06 PM EDT

                                  Who started those rumors, Damage? You?

                                  I see the right wingers are still scared of 3 new black panthers. Obviously, they are desperate to change the subject to resurrect that ancient history nonstory.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #13.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:34 PM EDT

                                  HAve some race issues, dude?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #13.10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:20 PM EDT

                                  @ Solution - Buddy, racism is racism no matter what color of skin you might happen to be. I'm simply saying that quite a few black people that I've met have expressed a lot of racist views, more so than most of the non-black people I know. Now, that's not saying that EVERY black person I've known or met were racist as most were definitely not. Even if that racism stems from their ancestors being slaves 100 years ago, lumping all whites into one category and hating them is STILL racism. Sorry, but I'm not going to be all nice and politically correct for you, racism goes more ways than one.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #13.11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

                                  Bigotry is finding fault with another race. Racism is believing that you are part of a superior race and therefore have the right and eugenic obligation to dominate the "lower" races. Blacks don't believe themselves to be superior, they just wish to be treated fairly and equally. As equals under our laws they should be entitled to reparations. Refusing to consider that as a reality is racist continuation of economic exploitation; a FREEDOM of capitalism.

                                    #13.12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 10:50 PM EDT
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                                    Big Business, Big Christie. Coinsidence?

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#14 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:11 AM EDT

                                    I was wondering how the Southern base were going to feel about being represented by an east coast elitist. I mean, even George Bush knew he had to emphasize Texas as his adopted home and play down his home at Walker's Point, Kennebunk, Maine. So Christie is out, the northern money bags have to support another no-nothing Texan or the South is stuck with Romney.

                                    What will they do, what will they do?

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#15 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:12 AM EDT

                                    Even though you Democrats want Romney to win the primary, he won't. This is the reason for all of this concentrated effort to tear Perry down. Democrats know Perry will energize the Republican base at election time when it matters. Republicans that haven't voted in years will show up.

                                    A little dude came up to my driveway yesterday trying to persuade me to vote Democrat in the next election (I guess he just ASSumed I vote Democrat because I am black). I asked him a simple question, "Why do YOU vote Democrat?" He actually had to get a card out of his pocket and read a statement to me....I said to him, "Let me see that BS", he had cards with responses that you give to Republican questions. He said the clown that dropped him off in the neighborhood gave him those because he figured it was mostly Republicans in this area.

                                    This is the kind of shiznit that the Democrat party does. Send uninformed youngsters that doesn't have a clue in hell about politics to knock on strangers doors with all of that political BS. This is the so-called grassroots.....lol.....18yr olds that have never held a job nor paid any bills to go and scream "Change we can Believe In".....lol.....He actually said that as he was walking away.....lol

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #15.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:53 AM EDT

                                    ITM,

                                    I don't want Romney to win the nom. But if he doesn't you guys really have no chance at all. The problem with the Teapublican Tunnel Vision is that it doesn't seem to allow for REALITY to dwell.

                                    It doesn't matter who shares the message, Tex,...Perry ain't the answer and you all are plum OUT of flavors.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #15.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:15 PM EDT

                                    Clara,

                                    I heard the same thing about Reagan and Bush, mostly from people that wouldn't vote vote for them anyway.

                                    Republicans are going to back whomever the candidate is. McCain was disliked by most and thrust into the nomination due to OPEN primaries, but Republicans had to support the nominee.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #15.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:46 PM EDT

                                    in the middle, thanks for the morning chuckle. You would have thought that your question wouldn't have required a que card. Can't libs express thier beliefs without one?

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #15.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:55 PM EDT

                                    Untrue,...ITM

                                    You know damn good and well that if McCain had picked Romney or even Jindal or TPaw he'd probably have won the Presidency. He DROVE The true independents completely away with that Palin pick. It was his turn and it was his to lose, and he GAVE it away on ill advice about the 'vagina vote' theory.

                                    Just my opinion. Some hail mary's are NEVER going to be caught,...and without a candidate, the Repubs aren't taking the whitehouse.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #15.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:09 PM EDT

                                    IntheMiddle - not so fast bud. Perry would energize this member of the republican base - to vote for Obama. Romney is in fact the only republican candidate (at least as of today) that I would vote for. Perry is a narrow-minded fundamentalist, Christian social conservative. I will not vote for anyone who thinks that it is the government's job to tell people how to live their lives.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #15.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:14 PM EDT

                                    They will swallow hard and support Perry...

                                      #15.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:14 PM EDT

                                      ITM,tex. That little dude you post about didn't happen. I have campaigned many many years and never had a card of any type.

                                      Stop the BSing.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #15.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:29 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      Thank you. We have enough clowns on the GOP stage as-is.

                                      • 12 votes
                                      Reply#16 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:13 AM EDT

                                      harrumph... well, I let the other guys have their chance at the brass ring but it looks like the American public is finally ready to make me the OFFICIAL President ....that amateur in the White House is certainly a goner ... he has a pre 9/11 mentality ... harrumph ... he just doesn't understand how dangerous this world is ... not like Liz and I here in the bunker .... First thing I do after getting elected is fit out the White House with this new security system I've been working on called BUNKERGUARD ... what it is is a bunker you place over your existing bunker ,,, for smaller bunkers we use 55 tons of steel re-inforced concrete - it fits on top of your existing bunker just like a ball cap - or a football helmet if you prefer ... that's my way .. harrumph ... sell to everybody ... there's a lot of dough to be made in security these days ... harrumph ... I don't see any conflict with me being the President of Bunkerguard and selling it to the WHite House - or the Senate and House of Representatives ... because it's a dangerous world ... I'd post more but my wife - I mean my daughter Liz and I are working on founding a new race ... one that is not afraid to stand up to danger ...Liz! Liz!! the FLying Monkeys ... The FLying Monkeys are attacking again!!!!!! less

                                      • 5 votes
                                      Reply#17 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:13 AM EDT

                                      O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma!

                                      • 13 votes
                                      Reply#18 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:13 AM EDT

                                      OMG zephyr OMG!

                                      Obama Must Go!

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #18.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:57 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      Why does Christie keep coming out saying he will not run? He has told us multiple times that he will not run, so why schedule a press conference again to tell us he is not running. This is a stupid waste of time.

                                      • 8 votes
                                      Reply#19 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:14 AM EDT

                                      Same reason Sarah Palin has bus tours to say a whole lot of nothing.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #19.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:29 PM EDT

                                      Because every time he makes a press statement, he gets a free donut.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #19.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:35 PM EDT
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                                      Maybe he will get an offer for a VP spot...that seems likely. He could give Mitt a little "street cred"! LOL!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#20 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:14 AM EDT

                                      Things have gotten worse because the Republicans complain but haven't created any jobs either! They are so focused on women's reproductive systems, trying to make Obama a one-term President, destroying social security, destroying unions, tampering with out voting rights, etc., that they are not helping our jobless situation at all. Then they want to blame it on Obama. Can you say dumb and dumber? LOL At this rate, I don't think Obama has anything to worry about as far as being re-elected. The Repubs have shot themselves in the head!

                                      I guess the other Repubs and Tea heads that are already in the race weren't actually the bottom of the barrel. Christie is in such horrible shape he wouldn't last through the first crisis that came his way. He is a hot tempered, rude and obnoxious person! What a joke!

                                      • 20 votes
                                      Reply#21 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:14 AM EDT

                                      Loren, I so agree with you on all of the points you just made. At least President Obama has the honesty, guts and temerity to state aloud that yes, the economy is not better than it was when he took office. He didn't attempt to gloss over the facts as we all know them to be. The Republicans and Tea Party have done exactly what you stated - made everything else, especially running Obama out of office - their priority. Not one of them has come close to proposing anything that would end the economic problems we are facing, yet they continue to bash the current administration. I think they have imploded, Christie might need a few years to learn diplomacy and tact before even considering running for president.

                                      • 14 votes
                                      #21.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:21 AM EDT

                                      Loren, take a deep breath and relax. Remember now, the progressive are in charge and aren't doing too well on the jobs front. Take ownership of your policies man, and accept their utter failure.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #21.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:00 PM EDT

                                      Rove and the Koch Bros will probably put him in as a VP with training wheels...er, Caterpillar training wheels.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #21.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:01 PM EDT

                                      Loren you must be uneducated low iq individual- the president is a disaster - no confidence means companies will not hire- that is it- i recommend overseas hiring- no unions no nonsense- better work product. Think idiot.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #21.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:25 PM EDT

                                      GLOTZ take a deep breath and hear the truth, the progressives are not in charge. Republicans are in charge of the house and all bills that could create jobs need to start in the house. You do remember that election where the republicans won control of the house. With control comes responsibility.

                                      Instead of creating jobs, the republicans have been focused on protecting the rich from any sacrifice, killing unions, killing women's rights, voter suppression, but no jobs.

                                      If I were a republican I would want to put the blame on someone else too.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #21.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:42 PM EDT

                                      From candice yesterday...

                                      Candice-

                                      Well, the House came up with HR 2021, 2587, 2646,1938, 1852, 1249, 1231, 1229, 1079, 910, 872, 366, 112. Some of these passed the House. Some are held in the Senate. Some are sitting in Senate Committees. Harry Reid is holding many of these up.

                                      #4.1 - Mon Oct 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT

                                      http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/03/8127187-obama-wants-congressional-action-on-jobs-bill-before-months-end?threadId=3236967&commentId=58629707#c58629707

                                      Perhaps some lib today will take up a discussion on these bills, and why reid chose to take little action on those reaching the senate.

                                      BTW - it is after Oct 1, where is the senates counter offer to the houses FY2012 budget?

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #21.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:13 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      When he heard that the White House will NOT be installing an all you can eat buffet for him if he wins made his decision easy.

                                      • 6 votes
                                      Reply#22 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:14 AM EDT

                                      I agree, we must set a good example for America!

                                        #22.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

                                        Gopmustgo, What an insightful and sensitive comment. It's hard to believe that MSNBC hasn't hired you for your brilliant political analysis!

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #22.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        Christie didn't have a chance once the South realized that he's actually rather liberal compared to the radical right...and he's catholic. I guess the Repubs are stuck with this awful batch--no savior on the horizon.

                                        Obama wins in a landslide.

                                        • 14 votes
                                        Reply#23 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:14 AM EDT

                                        The people that are working or trying to really find employment vote their wallet!!! After last nights comment OBAMA'S DONE!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #23.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:45 AM EDT

                                        I cant wait till the teabaggers (yesterdays moral majority) are forced to pull the lever for a Morman

                                        • 9 votes
                                        #23.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:50 AM EDT

                                        I am really trying to find employment. I just don't blame President Obama, I blame the republican tea party obstructionist who are trying to make America fail. Even Saint Reagan believed in raising taxes for the good of America. Apparently Reagan didn't pledge with Norquist to destroy America.

                                        Republicans in the past believed in being patriots, just not anymore.

                                        Past the American Jobs Bill.

                                        Obama 2012

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #23.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:53 PM EDT

                                        oh boy - AF blames the tea party for his lack of employment, and they have only been in office for barely 10 months. How droll...

                                        So tell us AF what job skills are you offerring up for an infrastructure job? Only an estimated average of 250k jobs saved or created are out there. What do you have that an employer can't live without?

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #23.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:24 PM EDT
                                        Reply

                                        This bloated gas bag pig was your best hope tea pots.  See you in 2016!!!!!!!!!!!

                                        • 6 votes
                                        Reply#24 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

                                        A cardboard cut out figure can beat Obama in 2012! Obama needs a miracle to win.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#25 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

                                        There's a cardboard cutout running?! Woot!!!! I'd vote for that!!!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #25.1 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:19 AM EDT

                                        sreibel, Romney IS a cardboard cutout figure so there you go. Actually, a cardboard cutout figure is probably more in touch with the American people.

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #25.2 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:25 AM EDT

                                        Actually your miracle just said "NO" to you. Enjoy Romney and another lost election.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.3 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:28 AM EDT

                                        Good try boys, It will not be ROMBUBBLE it will be CAIN!!!!!!!!!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #25.4 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 11:52 AM EDT

                                        My mistake, in that case enjoy Cain and another lost election.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #25.5 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:15 PM EDT

                                        If the young black voters want a chance at getting a job in the future, they may want to consider someone who could get them employed. That would be Herman Cain.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #25.6 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 12:41 PM EDT

                                        But what if they don't WANT to deliver pizzas Jeanette???

                                        Guess then it will be Barak Obama by default!

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.7 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:01 PM EDT

                                        Yes black are just dying to vote for someone who wants to eliminate minimum wage. At that rate you could work two full time jobs and still be below poverty levels.

                                        Just how many pizza parlors will it take to get all of America employed?

                                        Cain is just another cut taxes and regulations on the rich and let the poor pay for it. He is going to have to do some major brain washing to get blacks or anybody else to vote for him.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #25.8 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:02 PM EDT

                                        I thought that was Obama Job??? At least that all your heard, its time for a change with obama, and all you heard was how rich obama was going to make black voters?

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.9 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:03 PM EDT

                                        Obama doesn't need a miracle to win.He needs a disaster,and he has one.The REP/TP.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #25.10 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:04 PM EDT

                                        Jeanette: I agree. I'm not black, so I can't say I speak for them. But I am a Herman Cain supporter and hope he gets the nomination. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin and everything to do with his stand on the issues. Of all the candidates running, he reflects my views more than any of the others.

                                        While I admire Chrisite's bluntness and not having any fear of saying what he really thinks, he's still too liberal for me on issues like illegal immigration and gun control, not to mention that he seems to believe in the liberal mantra of man made global warming. That's three strikes and your out in my book.

                                        In fact, I'll go so far as to say that, if Cain is not the nominee, then I will be writing him in on my ballot. None of the rest, other than Bachmann fits the bill for me, and I don't think she'll be getting the nomination.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #25.11 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:08 PM EDT

                                        Cain is not Able.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #25.12 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 1:35 PM EDT

                                        Beat Obama with a Cain!!

                                          #25.13 - Tue Oct 4, 2011 4:43 PM EDT
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