Florida moved up its primary date to Jan. 31 today, breaking national party rules and setting off a domino effect that likely means the beginning of the GOP presidential nominating process will be in early January 2012.
In a 7-2 vote, the Florida Primary Selection Committee decided to move up its date.
The first domino fell in New Hampshire, traditionally the first primary in the nation, preceded only by Iowa’s caucuses.
New Hampshire Secretary of State Bill Gardner, who has unilateral control to set the Granite State’s date, moved up the presidential primary filing period to begin Oct. 17 and ending October 28, signaling the New Hampshire primary contest will be moved up in the calendar.
"Unfortunately, we'll be unable to have the upcoming presidential primary on the second Tuesday in March and will continue to honor the tradition of our first-in-the-nation presidential primary," Gardner told NBC News. "Because we cannot rule out of the possibility of conducting the primary before the end of this year, we are, regrettably, as we were four years ago, forced to move the presidential candidates filing period to October.”
Gardner watched the full Florida committee debate via a website in his Statehouse chambers and was visibly surprised as the members in the Sunshine State discussed going so early as Jan. 3rd.
"I don't know how I can be surprised by anything anymore,” said Gardner, who’s been setting the primary date since 1976, “so we will wait and see on the rest. We will continue to be first. … It is my intention to move the primary up so we preserve the tradition."
Gardner is watching South Carolina and Nevada closely and will set the date after they have announced.
South Carolina will also not be announcing its primary date today and probably won’t until next week, according to Matt Moore, the South Carolina GOP’s executive director.
South Carolina, along with the other carve-out states, will wait until all other non-carve-out states’ primaries are set before announcing its own, Moore said. And if New Hampshire is waiting until later in the fall, the same is true for the Palmetto State.
"We want to make sure that the four early states are playing from the same sheet of music," Moore told NBC.
Moore also said that party is not ruling out announcing a Tuesday election instead of a Saturday election. Connelly said yesterday that he was leaning toward holding the election the Saturday before Florida’s election (four days before), but Moore said holding the election on a Tuesday would be cheaper (no overtime costs for keeping schools, etc., open) and that having adequate time between their primary and Florida’s is a concern.
Iowa’s Republican Party Chairman says the Hawkeye State will wait on Gardner and New Hampshire.
"Only Secretary of State Gardner has that authority in New Hampshire,” Matt Strawn tells NBC News in an email. “Once he sets the date for New Hampshire's primary, Iowa will then act accordingly and set the date of our First in the Nation Caucuses."
*** UPDATE *** A South Carolina source says the four early states are working together, and they will likely announce their dates jointly. Gardner is in close contact with his counterpart in Nevada's, talking almost daily lately.
*** UPDATE 2 *** Here's the statement from the Florida GOP:
"Today, under the authority provided them by Florida statute and their selection by Governor Scott, Speaker Cannon and Senate President Haridopolos, the nine members of the Presidential Preference Primary Date Selection Committee chose January 31st as our state’s date. As I have said before, the Republican Party of Florida was always prepared to work with the date selected by those with the legal authority to do so. We appreciate that the Committee engaged in a thorough process. That process included discussion of a range of dates from January 3rd to March 6th or later, so this compromise of January 31st properly reflects the importance Florida will play on the national stage. We look forward to having a great primary, and then hosting a world-class convention for our party’s nominee. Florida will be the most important state in our efforts to defeat Barack Obama."
*** UPDATE 3 *** South Carolina GOP Chairman Chad Connelly condemned Florida's move:
"Today's decision by Florida is hugely disappointing and could have been avoided. Rogue states have once again dictated the Presidential nominating calendar. I call on my fellow RNC members and all Republicans to strongly condemn Florida's decision to hold their primary on January 31. States who have worked so hard to maintain the nominating calendar should not be penalized and the offenders, including Florida, should lose their entire allocations of delegates at the National Convention. Rules matter and the four traditional early states (Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina) did everything they could to avoid this unfortunate situation. South Carolina's primary date will not be announced today."


Looking at all of the posts from liberals that are upset with Forida for moving up the republican primary, and I wonder why they care. As a conservative I am tired of blue states selecting the republican nominee before more conservative states get a voice in the process. This year is especially important. Obama is going to lose in 2012 and I want the most conservative candidate we can get, not a watered down Obama. I am sure the liberals on this site are looking for the complete opposite type of candidate and that is why they support Iowa and New Hampshire going first.
Doris,
I agree with you. As a moderate conservative, personally, I would like to see FL wait. Yes, wait. Let Iowa and NH go first -- they do a fine job of vetting, and narrowing the field down to 3. O.K., after SC, then either you are part of that top 3 or part of the bottom 6 and out of money.
Then those top 3 can criss-cross the country and travel to FL, PA, and all the rest. No rush to decide, in fact, it may be better to let the races drag on a bit more, it forces the candidates to answer more questions, spend more time in the hot seat on the Sunday shows, and propose and counterpropose arguments of Obama.
None the less, FL will do what FL will do, and the Republicans can penalize them 1/2 their delegate count if the party so chooses at the convention.
The liberals that post on these MSNBC pages usually put down anything that has to do with what happens in "real world" so to speak. Most of the time if you post a fact, a true statement or an opinion that differs from their view you will receive in return derogatory comments and name-calling, never a civil counter point.
Every election, one can always count on Flordia or is it miscount.
Good move, Floridian Republicans. Your primary will favor the candidate who is more likely to win the general election than the selections of the provincials in Iowa and New Hampshire.
Croaker,
1) You presume to know who will win FL? Who might that be?
2) If the Republican Party penalizes FL and strips 1/2 their delegates, this effectively "weakens" the impact of the FL primary, with respect to the nomination total. So, it is possible that FL will have a smaller voice and impact the eventual outcome less, by moving their primary.
The Tea bag/Gop are eating their own! I LOVES IT!!!! " GIMME MINE NOW"! is the name of the game for THEM. They are so pycho they can't wait there turn in line...if they get there way, this is what we can see for the future for the Country as a whole. Get use to it folks!!!!!!! These folks are sooooooooooooooooooooo greedy they've got to have first dibs all EVERYTHING!
One way to stop all this "me first" nonsense is to have a NATIONAL PRIMARY DAY in which the entire country go to the polls and vote.
Enough said!
Robin,
No, there is definitely MORE to be said.
Your solution does solve one problem -- who goes first. However, it creates another -- we don't get to know the candidates very well.
People are impatient. This is just a fact of life. Personally, as a conservative, I would like to see the Republican Party strip FL of 1/2 its delegate count for going early. This would enforce party discipline and serve as a deterrent to those other state who might like to hold their 2016 primaries NEXT WEEK. ha ha.
The most important point here in the primary season is NOT to simply get it over with. NO. By far, the most important point is to learn about the candidates so the public can make an informed choice in November 2012.
Shortchanging the primary calendar, shortchanges this process, and leaves the public with candidates whom they do not know and perhaps have never seen in a public forum or heard speak about the issues of our day.
Why the hell should anyone really care? Whoever gets elected as president will merely continue the same policies we've been conducting for decades. Regardless of which party ends up in the White House...
-America will be further in debt at the end of their next term
-Millions of people will still be unemployed, while families with two working parents or single working parents will still be barely living on minimum wages
-The top 1% of Americans will still control 85%+ of all our nation's financial wealth
-There will still be a broken border system
-We'll still operate so many military bases around the world that our defense budget will continue to cripple our national budget
-The price of living will still inflate; gas, food, and the necessities of any household will still climb higher and higher in price
-Corporate leaders will still receive salaries hundreds to thousands of times higher than the people who actually work long, difficult hours for them
Haven't Republicans and Democrats already proven they are wholly incapable of attempting to tackle any of these problems facing our country? In 5 years these things will still be the case.
It's easy for politicians to say they'll attempt to solve these problems. Once elected, it's merely a case of lining their own pockets, their families', their friends', and their sponsors' pockets, and then being able to retire in luxury.
And yet people still get excited about elections and the promises of politicians... and completely forget how those promises are overwhelmingly bull@!$%# and no real change in the life of the majority of Americans actually occurs.
This is such bad news. I wanted more debates. How about 1 per week from here on out, guys?