COLUMBIA, S.C. -- While it doesn’t receive the early attention that Iowa and New Hampshire get in presidential primary politics, South Carolina holds this important distinction: its winner has gone on to capture every Republican nomination since 1980.
The most recent Winthrop University poll, released less than two weeks ago, showed Texas Gov. Rick Perry leading with 31% and Mitt Romney a close second with 27.5%.
That might be surprising to some, who see South Carolina as not much more than a socially conservative state. But understanding the different kinds of conservatives who live here -- whether in the Upstate (dominated by social conservatives), the Midlands (the Republican power center with its mix of establishment Republicans and military voters), and Lowcountry (with its strong military presence and fiscally minded Northern transplants on the coast) -- are key to winning the Palmetto State’s GOP presidential primary.
“South Carolina is not a monolithic place,” said Mark Tompkins, a political science professor at the University of South Carolina. “It’s conservative for sure, but there are all these different strains of conservatism.”
As candidates try to outdo each other’s conservative credentials here, the 2008 South Carolina primary election serves as a reminder that it’s not always the most conservative candidate who wins the state.
“It helps to be able to appeal everywhere,” said Warren Tompkins, a longtime presidential campaign adviser, who is not affiliated with a candidate this cycle (and is no relation to the aforementioned Mark). “And, generally, whoever gets the plurality runs fairly decently across the board.”
Not always the most conservative candidate who wins
When John McCain won in 2008, he did so with just 33% of the vote -- and with a little help from Fred Thompson. McCain, a war hero, was able to dominate in the Midlands and Lowcountry.
Mike Huckabee, who finished second with 30%, won the biggest share of the state’s self-declared evangelical voters, which made up 60% of voters in 2008, according to exit polls, but Thompson siphoned off a crucial 15% of those voters -- and split the vote with Huckabee in the Upstate counties. Huckabee’s campaign argued at the time that Thompson’s 16% overall finish likely cost Huckabee the election.
“We got awful close,” Huckabee said in 2008 after the results were finalized.
The Upstate: Where God and country matter
It comes as no surprise that Huckabee, a former Baptist minister, was able to sell a Christian conservative message in the heavily evangelical Upstate. The region is home to Bob Jones University, which calls itself “the foremost fundamental Christian University.”
The Upstate’s focus on social issues was evident when Perry campaigned there recently. A woman congratulated him for saying evolution was a theory. “Well, God is how we got here,” Perry responded.
Romney, who finished fourth in South Carolina in 2008 with 15%, has largely kept his distance from the area. His religion -- he’s Mormon -- was a hurdle, especially in the Upstate, where he received as little as 8% in some counties. It remains to be seen if he rethinks sidestepping the state, given his standing in the Winthrop poll and Perry’s recent stumbles.
The Upstate isn’t just a key place for candidates to burnish their socially conservative credentials. It also contains some of the most voter-rich counties in the state. Republican consultant Chip Felkel, who worked on both of George W. Bush’s campaigns, pointed out that 52 percent of the 2008 primary vote came from seven counties – three of which are located in the region, including Greenville, which had the highest overall turnout.
In order to win in South Carolina, “you don’t necessarily have to be ardent on the social issues like a [Rick] Santorum, but you have to have bona fides on the social issues in order to take care of those votes in the Upstate,” said Felkel, who is unaffiliated but would have worked for Haley Barbour if he had decided to run.
The region has also always been a business hub for the state, first with tobacco farming, then textiles, and now through companies like BMW, whose only American factory is in Spartanburg. That environment breeds a sort of libertarianism, inherited from farmers who were wary of, as Mark Tompkins put it, “pointy-headed bureaucrats in Washington telling us we have to do all these things about tobacco.” That fits well with the present-day Tea Party.
The Midlands: A GOP establishment power center
In addition to dominating in the Lowcountry, McCain made up for his shortcomings in the Upstate also by almost sweeping the Midlands, an area Mark Tompkins describes as a “melting pot.” It has a strong military presence, including Shaw Air Force Base and Fort Jackson, the Army’s largest basic training center, helping McCain win nine of the area’s 10 counties.
The Midlands is also home to the state’s capital city, Columbia, as well as the University of South Carolina, the flagship institution of the state’s college system. Columbia is also a stronghold for African-American Democrats. Black voters make up more than half of Democratic primary voters, and churches here were must-stops in 2008 for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, who drew huge crowds. Two historically black colleges, Allen University and Benedict College, are also located in the capital city.
The Lowcountry: Beach, business, and the military
The Lowcountry has experienced an influx of Northerners -- largely retirees attracted to South Carolina’s home prices. For example, the population of Beaufort County, which includes the beach community of Hilton Head, surged by 34% over the past 10 years, according to the 2010 Census. Mark Tompkins characterized Lowcountry political strain as “business conservatism,” bolstered by “a bunch of rich Yankees in retirement homes.
As in the Midlands, the military has a big presence in the Lowcountry, with Air Force and Coast Guard bases, a Marine Corps Air Station and the Parris Island Marine Corps training grounds. That combination of military and older, more moderate voters helped McCain win six of the eight counties associated with the region.
Romney finished second in two of the counties, Beaufort and Charleston. His most recent of his infrequent trips to the Palmetto state this cycle took him, in fact, to Charleston. Charleston is also the home of a new Boeing plant, the subject of a National Labor Relations Board lawsuit alleging Boeing built the plant here in order to punish striking union workers in Washington State. Like all Republican candidates looking to curry favor with leaders in this non-union state, Romney railed against President Obama’s NLRB appointments, calling them “an egregious example of political payback.”
This time around, the region could be up for grabs -- if Romney decides to play in the state. He has the business experience, but Perry’s military experience (and Romney’s lack of it) is a hurdle.
The numbers coming out of the state are still “very fluid” and decisions about allocating resources in South Carolina and other primary states are ongoing, said Kevin Madden, an informal Romney adviser, who served as his 2008 communications director.
But, Madden added, “Rick Perry’s meltdown with conservatives around the immigration issue has hurt him there, and his positioning on Social Security is devastating with older voters and retirees. All of that makes it a competitive race.”
Romney will make more stops in South Carolina, but don't expect him to campaign here very heavily. Florida's primary is likely to be held just days later, and because of early voting, it's possible that as much as half of Florida's vote could be in by the time South Carolina's primary takes place.
The temptation to play here could also be a trap. Felkel believes Perry has the best chance to garner majorities from all corners of the South Carolina map.
“The state is tailor-made for Rick Perry,” Felkel said. “Because he gets the business community; he’s got military background, social conservatives like him, and he’s got that independent streak that Carolinians seem to like. Case in point, John McCain.”
NBC's Domenico Montanaro contributed reporting to this story.


Rick Who?
Rick "The Ponzi Scheme" Perry.................
Rick "Health Care Reform is Tort Reform - FAIL" Perry
Rick "There Is No Global Warming While Texas Burns" Perry
That Rick Perry?
Grover--the Tealiban don't really listen--they vote their "faith" and believe that anyone who says they are "evangelical christian" really is--even if actions say otherwise!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
Cross visiting South Carolina off my bucket list. Not my kind of place.
That is unfortunate, Amy, the Carolinas are beautiful. Seriously.
I think Mr. Perry preaches exactly what the electorate there wants to hear.
There are some nice golf courses and beaches there, Amy. Hilton Head is a big vacation destination for people from Pittsburgh for some reason.
Wonder how those SC folks feel about Gov. Christie? He doesn't seem to be their kind of guy.
Great Shrimp near the sea too Amy.
See Amy, this is what happens when you make emotional decisions without realizing what the consequences will be.
Sounds like you will be missing out on some great golf. beaches and seafood.
Too bad.
just come a little further south to Savannah. One of the Blue spots in a red state. Our beaches and seafood top SC's, too. Can't speak for the golf.
Sorry, y'all. By the time I got through reading all the different type ways you can be conservative in South Carolina, I was, like, "this place is not for me!"
Hilton Head, the SNOBBISH place in S.C. except for the Governor's Mansion where you can have all the luxuries normally found in a ***** Star Hotel, except it is for free for Republican TP members only. Courtesy of the S.C. Taxpayers. We even provide a total security package in the deal.
Charleston and Savannah are great places to vacation.
Amy,
In the Marines I had a chance to eat shrimp on the coast of North Carolina. Mmmm Mmmm Mmmmm.
You haven't lived till you try it. And just like in the Forrest Gump movie, there are many ways to prepare it.
Sounds like Perry is preaching to the choir in SC. Meanwhile, the GOP are still looking for another candidate to enter the long list of their cast of charaters. But time is running out for a new face on this list.
Amy, Try NC they have better beaches...
Yep! We adore those snake handler ministers and voodoo Christians. Wonder if he will call on his God to rain fire and brimstone of those who do not believe in his version of the Bible.
Totally, totally off topic... BUT
Chuck Todd? Quit b!tchin about the WH Soup of the Day! It's free, right? And, you don't have to eat it! Your daily wining about it, has convinced me to turn the channel when you come on...
Your 'promo' states you're inside the gates of the WH getting answers we demand to know - honey, soup isn't one of them...
Great comment Lyn. Sometimes old Todd can be a little self-absorbed...
Don't know about the White House soup, but the Senate has a killer bean soup that my wife makes here at home sometimes. It is called the U.S. Senate Bean Soup. It is served daily in the cafeteria of the U.S. Senate.
Is Rick Perry a conservative or a credit card Republican? The state of Texes is paying $10,000 a month for the rental of a mansion for conservative Rick Perry.
$10,000 a month for a governors mansion is nonsense. What are they thinking?
What they should be doing is paying attention to the White House for lessons to spend money. Perhaps Perry or another candidate will be looking for ways to spend over $525 Billion dollars of taxpayer money in a company that employed 1100 people. You can do the math to see how much that comes out to per employee. Then when the company can't meet it's obligations to pay the debt, re-write it so that private investors get their money before the taxpayers and defer payment on the loan until things get better. But things never did improve, did they? Then when the company files bankruptcy, scratch your head and then start asking questions about the operation of the company.
If this Solyndra fiasco had been directed by the GOP instead of the democrats, this would be making headlines in every media outlet everyday across the nation. Instead, because it was backed/directed by democrats, it takes a distant back-seat to anything else the media can come up with in it's attempts to discredit every GOP candidate and elected official. Pathetic.
At least he didn't conspire with his rich donors to bring down the Housing Market like his predecessor did.
Rick Perry stay out of our State! We have enough to worry about with our Governor Haley.
Gov. Perry would save your state after the progressives, libs, dems, socialists, and unuions have driven you to distruction and bakruptcy on a turbo powered sled!!!
Rick Perry, the savior of the extreme far right (from one of his speeches) bought and pay for by one of his benefactors who is known to be a great believer and adorer of Tyrants and Dictators. This benefactor has about 20 or so large statures honoring such despots as Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, etc. at his mansion in Texas.
Perry is also know as a Secessionists. This is a few lines from a TP rally:
AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"
After praising veterans in the cheering crowd Wednesday, he said: "I'm just not real sure you're a bunch of right-wing extremists. But if you are, we're with you."
Perry said he believes he could be at the center of a national movement that is coordinated and focused in its opposition to the actions of the federal government. (By whatever means necessary.)
Perry is a man that would call up a "State of National Emergency" and instigate "Martial Law" within a blink of an eye just to sate the wishes of his Donors.
PS: That is the only way to have the U.S. Military deployed along the borders or stationed in States to locate and exterminate his "illegals". Bet you that his Gestapo Soldiers will have orders to shoot and ask questions later.
Are any of you contributors to this blog Conservatives or plants from the wacko left??!! Social Security is a "scheme" and all of us know it, quit trying to scare people this taechnique has been tried and any thinking person who has seen the debates knows it! We've been told for 40 years that Social Security is not working..so what is the big surprise..you libs and progressives suddenly figure out that your philosophy doesn't work or make sense! Now you want to brand the only hope this country has to obliterate your assinine, destructive and traitorous lies! You are all afraid, Europe doesn't work, the USSR didn't work, and you progressives, libs, demos. socialists STILL DON'T GET IT!! IS IT YOU!!!
How many TKO's have you taken. Sounds that you are a little bit punch crazy.
If the rich paid their fare share Social Security would be solvent until 2075. Just in case you haven't notice that's another 64 years.
You're not rich so why are you protecting them? Even if you do get rich you more than likely get rich in the United States were you are protected by the law. Try doing that over seas in any country.
Millionaires on S.S., yes its happening. Stop this trash.
S. Carolina is The Texan's to lose? The republican base down there is social conservative. They don't like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, or government bridge building. What is there to lose? Bring a big bible and crawl on the ground. You'll win. No sweat.
Not with our Sanford ilk/TP Governor in Office.
Did any of you in SC actually watch the last debate. (with the sound on)
^ That would be torture. Bachmann and Perry are basically spokesmodels - only, best seen and *not* heard.
But our Governor bows down and kisses their feet and supplies all the trapping that they demand. AT TAXPAYERS EXPENSE.
Who CARES!
Perry got a "D" in Econ in college, is this the trash you want running our country, not me - this guy can go to hell because this loser sold his soul to the Rich and the T-Nuts.
I thank Rick Perry is great, he crated so miny jawbs in Texas that I have three of 'em. That's more than the number of teeth I has. And he's a good christan man, as I shore the brethren in South Carlina will fine out.
What the hell are you talking about ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Well, then go see a dentist nemesis.
nemisis speaks the new american truth. Or tryth. Whatever. The dude has teeth. A couple anyway.
Perry is too soft on immigration, just another politician. As an SC voter I like Herman Cain. Romney is much the same as Perry. Too pretty, a fat ugly guy like Christy would be good too.
I like Perry because he was the first governor to have the guts to relay the sentiments that many of us Southerners were having after Obama got elected. Secession was definately on the table, and yes, we'd have kicked some Yankee butt if any Yanks tried to stop us. But luckily Obama didn't push us that far. However, I don't think it was a wise decision for Perry to throw his hat in the ring for president. Ron Paul exemplifies the best of what Perry stands for and has a much better grasp on national security and foreign policy. Plus, Paul isn't as polarizing. Hopefully more Southerners will wake up and realize this.
Segregationist you speak so much truth it hurts. Dr. Ron Paul exemplifies what this country needs in a leader. He has been doing what hes doing for SO long, and has never ever wavered on his stances. Mainstream media doesn't cover Ron Paul. Why you ask? They are scared, they know how big of a threat he is. But the people will prevail in 2012. And we will prevail with Dr. Ron Paul.
RON PAUL 2012!!!!
Mainstream media doesn't cover Ron Paul. Why you ask? They are scared, they know how big of a threat he is.
No Breyem -- the mainstream media doesn't cover Ron Paul because he's not going anywhere. The libertarian party has been around for years and has never drawn more than 2% of the vote.
A new year is a new year. His campaign is being noticed this time around. People are waking up to the reality of what he is says, ears are open. I believe with the mockery Obama has made people are looking and researching for their own believes. And believe it or not, they see Ron Paul and agree with his statements. I see it plastered all over the net, and in my daily life with friends who have never stepped foot in politics, to strangers I see at the local mart. 2012 will be a great year.
This is hysterical. So far this year the we've had a series of latest -greatest Republican superstars who are sure to unseat Obama. The list includes --- Palin, Huckabee, Romney, Trump, Bachmann, Perry, Cain and the newest of the newest -- a guy who has said he not running, said he isn't qualified and said he doesn't have the desire to run-- Chris Christi. These clowns coem to the top then disappear faster than a fart in the wind.
Perry? Who is that? I am a native Texan 76 yo, but what I have seen and heard tells me that Perry is a
loser.
Perry denies global warming, social security IS NOT a ponzi scheme!!! Look what is happening in Canada's
Artic ice-how can a canditate not believe in science, nope my vote goes to the canditate who does not mix
religion with politics. my vote goes to the canditate who is a clear thinker and does not try to play on the
fears of the people. Thank you.
If the Federal Government (aka the Department of Defense) leaves South Carolina, the last person out, should turn off the lights.
That said, because Gov. Perry is running to succeed President Davis, he should fit in with the SC GOP.
Ron Paul in 2012!!!