The Perry vs. Romney endorsement battle

Just hours before last week's Republican presidential debate, Rick Perry's campaign announced that Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback was supporting Perry.

Also last week, Mitt Romney rolled out endorsements of his own -- from California Congressman Darrell Issa and Indiana Congressman Todd Rokita.

When the lights shut off on the debate stages, and all the town hall folding chairs are packed away, there's another campaign that continues, largely hidden from public view, over dinners and long-distance phone calls: the fight for top-tier endorsements.

As they battle to win the support of undecided primary voters, Romney and Perry both have used national networks built over the last decade to build formidable lists of governors, members of Congress, and local lawmakers who have joined their team.

And a recent pattern has emerged, though with some exceptions: Perry's endorsements are coming from some sitting governors who are considered rising stars in the party, while Romney's are coming from sitting members of Congress.

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Perry, the longest serving governor in Texas history and a two-time chairman of the Republican Governors Association, can boast the support of two other fellow state execs besides Brownback: Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, both of whom are minorities and rising stars in the GOP.

It was during his RGA leadership that Perry solidified his reputation as a formidable fundraiser whose cash-courting helped Republicans regain majority control of the nation's statehouses. The RGA raised over $217 million between 2006 (the time Perry took on an active role there) and 2011 (when he left the RGA chairmanship to pursue the presidency).

"The governors who experienced Gov. Perry's tenure at the RGA, the folks that he helped in some cases recruit and in some cases elect, know that he was in it for them and for the party, and not just for self-interest or self-aggrandizement," said Ray Sullivan, Perry's campaign communications director and his former gubernatorial chief of staff.

That's in contrast, he said, to past chairmen including Romney, whose tenure at the helm of the RGA Sullivan described as "insular and self-centered" compared with Perry's.

The former Massachusetts governor's win-loss record at the helm of the RGA also was far less boastworthy than Perry's despite his strength as a fundraiser. That record loomed large the last time Romney ran for president, when only three of the nation's 22 Republican governors backed his primary effort.

Romney's Capitol Hill support
But while Perry bests Romney on his number of high-profile gubernatorial backers, Romney has the lead when it comes to his base of congressional support.

To date, his campaign has announced the endorsements of 15 sitting representatives, three U.S. senators, and two sitting governors -- Idaho Gov. Butch Otter and Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman

(Perry, by comparison, has a total of at least nine backers on Capitol Hill so far.)

That includes several endorsers from Romney's '08 campaign who have returned to the fold, such as California Congressman Buck McKeon and Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch.
 
Romney's national political action committee, Free and Strong America, also gave tens of thousands of dollars to dozens of Republican candidates during the midterm election cycle, and Romney campaigned for them as well. Several of those who received max contributions -- Reps. Joe Heck of Nevada and Jason Chaffetz of Utah, for example -- are backing Romney.

"Gov. Romney was proud to support a number of fiscally conservative candidates in the 2010 election cycle," campaign spokesman Ryan Williams explained. "It's always good to go to the states to meet people and help them get elected and grow those relationships."

But a personal relationship and healthy donation from Free And Strong America does not guarantee an endorsement for Romney. In 2010, the PAC gave a maximum contribution to Texas Congressman Pete Sessions, who is now a strong backer of his home state governor. Michele Bachmann also accepted money from Free And Strong America, as did Perry himself.
 
Political insiders say lawmaker endorsements rarely earn candidates primary votes directly, but do serve as important signals to activists and potential donors.

For Romney, endorsements by conservatives like Arizona Congressman Jeff Flake help shore up the candidate's conservative bonafides, often in question by elements of that movement.

For Perry, endorsements from Republican establishment figures like Sessions (who chairs the National Republican Congressional Committee) and fellow Texan Jeb Hensarling (the fourth-ranking house Republican) prove that Perry's anti-Washington message does not mean he will lack support there.

As for the other GOP presidential candidates, the dearth of such backing can be a red flag. Michele Bachmann racked up local political endorsements in Iowa, but the lack of support from any of her congressional colleagues is seen by some as a sign of her limited national appeal.

Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, and Rick Santorum have likewise struggled to attract support from more than a handful of other national Republican figures.

While many endorsements at this stage are done by rote -- a press release and a handshake photo-op before everyone returns to their day jobs -- others present the possibility for greater value.

For example, the Romney campaign believes that former presidential candidate (and former Minnesota Gov.) Tim Pawlenty, who endorsed Romney earlier this month and became a national co-chair of his campaign, falls into the latter category. Since joining team Romney, Pawlenty has been assiduously courting his network of supporters to now support Romney as well.

"Pawlenty has done a fantastic job of reaching out to people," said Williams, the Romney spokesman. "He's been fully invested in this campaign since Day One."

Perry's backers have also been major presences -- as both media surrogates and behind-the-scenes advocates. Both Jindal and Brownback took a turn touting their candidate's performance to reporters in the "spin room" after debates in Tampa and Orlando, as did Florida House Speaker Dean Cannon and New Hampshire Deputy House Speaker Pam Tucker.

Jindal also recently penned an email fundraising solicitation for the Texas governor.

And Perry's team notes that after just six weeks in the race, their endorsement list is already competitive with Romney's.

"We're very pleased with where we are from an endorsement standpoint, Sullivan said. "Our endorsers are active, engaged and enthusiastic. And we hope, obviously, to have more coming down the road."

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I heard of "Battle of the Network Stars" this show must be a spinoff "Battle of the Nitwit Stars"

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#1 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:57 PM EDT

Forrest, I know you can do better than that. Given the amazingly disorganized manner in which Obama has run his office and the high turnover of his cabinet and advisors along with Susskind's new book on the amateur hour at the white house, not sure name calling of two candidates one of which has a very high likelihood of being the next president is very nice ha. Pat or Bev would tell you that your disrespecting the office of the president and your only doing it because they are white you bigot you.

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#1.1 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:15 PM EDT

Good for them. Hope they'll race to announce it when Trumpman endorses any of them.

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#1.2 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

Kirk-2957282

Read the book yet or just repeating your Republican talking points? Everything I've heard about the Obama administration points to a very effective organization.

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#1.3 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:19 PM EDT

"Good for them. Hope they'll race to announce it when Trumpman endorses any of them."

I don't know, PEN- one of 'em decided to become the Back Door Man at Trump's place the other day.....

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT

And so the auditions begin, for Cabinet positions, for ambassadorships, and for spots as Fox News pundits.

I'm sure Donald Trump will have some juicy employment opportunities for these folks as well.

They're already behaving like casino workers and carnival barkers.

  • 11 votes
#1.5 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:23 PM EDT

DBO

Don't say it loud, I heard it was mitten.....shhhh

  • 1 vote
#1.6 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:28 PM EDT

Your are right Kirk I can be funnier than that, those two candidates sure are, so yeah I fell a little short with my joke and those two guys deserve better jokes about them from me and all Americans. I am white Kirk so I don't think the prejudice thing will fly when I knock these guys or when I support the president.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:33 PM EDT

Forrest, I hope you realize I was teasing you tongue in cheek. I also figured you for being white which is why I said it more as a joke. But not all people can tease on here I suppose.

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:40 PM EDT

Amy, yes I have read the books and not even sure what a talking point is. Can you show me some website that I am supposed to taking notes on talking points? Unlike most of the post pasters from the ridiculous radical web sites, I actually critically think on my own (and I realize that could also be my biggest issue and problem). Amy there is no way you have heard from anyone with any inside knowledge that Obama's administration has been effective. I live here in Chicago and have never met Obama personally but know quite a few people who have worked with him in the past and Michelle at her early legal career. I have met and know chicago democratic political people and not a single one would call Obama's administration as organized and effective. Actually quite the opposite and plagued by turnover and internal infighting. But guess what, so was every other first time president especially one that had no experience. I doubt Obama's team was any less organized than Clintons when he came into office for example. However, I dont think many of the posters who disagree with his fiscal policies could care less including me. My issue with Obama is not how efficiently the white house is run. To me its like reading US magazine, a funny curiosity thats it. By the way most people in Chicago within the party are more frustrated with Obama because he doesnt seem to listen and learn and is not pragmatic. When he moves off his stated position its being dragged and pulled reluctantly not because he wants to. Supposedly he is like that very smart guy who has no experience on various topics or issues but thinks that based on his intellect , he still knows more and better than the more experienced person.

  • 1 vote
#1.9 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:52 PM EDT

I dunno Kirk - The Grumpman is only an old union thug... knocking people left and right just to keep his honor... or at least his men's honor. I'd have to admit Forrest, you've come up with better jokes. It's beneath you to namecall.

Substance... it works everytime.

Now, if you would have said "Battle of the Knee-jerk Stars," it would have been more of a jest instead of a slam. Always remember the old saying... there's truth is jest. Nitwits? Nahhh... Nits and halfwits... maybe.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:55 PM EDT

Ha okay then, sorry I did not pick up on the joke, you are usually a very serious poster, I like teasing, I will look for it more carefully in your posts. I guess I had a little too much coffee today getting geared up for work this evening, sorry if I am a little high strung today buddy, I better calm down before I go to work or my mouth is liable to get me in trouble. Kirk a couple of times a month I play in the horn section of a band that plays a lot of Motown from the 60's and some Funk from the 70's so I'm pretty fly for a white guy. I will tell you this though if I never have to play Mustang Sally again it would be fine with me, it has to be the most requested song ever, even when we play it people will ask if we will play it again, I'm sick of that song.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:56 PM EDT

Forrest, no problem, I am actually much more light handed than any post without context or inflection can ever come across. Most of my posts are meant somewhat tongue in cheek and I realize that I embellish sometimes because I am trying to point out the hypocrisy sitting in someone's post. Of course the point is generally missed and they spend the time banging on me. I like most of your posts whether I agree with you or not and I dont find you being an old union guy the least bit of an issue given that I grew up in that household. My grandfather was a an old Railroad machinist, mom a teacher and heard everyday about unions. Anna Molly thinks all I do is attack unions but to me its like religion, if you dont question everyday is this the right thing or decision then you dont grow. So whether I agree with all your positions or your support of Obama I hope you will still take my jests with a tongue in cheek smile.

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#1.12 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:08 PM EDT

Forrest, why so much hatred today?

Anna Molly - glad to see you have conceded that one of these two will , in fact, be the next President.

I suppose this is no different than it was in 00,04 and 08. Wonder how many lobbiests a Republican President will hire? The current Democrat hired around 40 I think, 3 at the Cabinet level. Pretty good considering he wasn't going to hire any.

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#1.13 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:10 PM EDT

Point taken Brianb, battle of the knee-jerk stars is a better line for sure.

I really don't need to defend my crew because they are paid quite well, and their employer still has to be the low bidder to get the contract, so they provide a real value to him, and he makes a good living off their labor, all the while banking on the fact that even though he pays them more than his non union competition, they will be more productive bring the job in under bid, and turn a nice profit for him, that he is willing to share in an equitable manner. No defense is necessary for my employers or their union crew of labor, they produce a nice living for each other while providing the best value for the customer. It is to be praised not defended.

  • 3 votes
#1.14 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

Well WAC I don't think I am being hateful, silly, shallow or whatever but I don't feel I have flat out hated on anybody. I am always kind of Grumpy, I am a little extra Grumpy today, I don't always know why I am being a pain in the ass, Mrs Grump always seems to know why, but I'm not going to ask her, sooner or later she will tell me what my problem is, and it is the damnedest thing, but she will be right.

  • 3 votes
#1.15 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:35 PM EDT

Everything I've heard about the Obama administration points to a very effective organization.

But we the people just seem to see it in this the most transparent administration in history.

Watching what is going on with this admin is worse then amateur hour and the whole world sees it.

    #1.16 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:50 PM EDT

    WCA:

    Anna Molly - glad to see you have conceded that one of these two will , in fact, be the next President.

    LoL Go back and read more carefully. I don't think that's what I said.

    It's only what they aspire to.

    Or was that just some of the famous (or infamous) "irony" that we've been hearing about around here the past few days? ;-)

    Wonder how many lobbiests a Republican President will hire?

    Not too many, I suspect. Republicans lobbyists are no doubt much more expensive than Democratic lobbyists, being of the private sector, and all.

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    #1.17 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:40 PM EDT

    It will be Romney/Pawlenty 2012. I said it first and I still believe it.

    Likewise, I still believe the "my way or the highway crowd" will not support Romney and the President will be re-elected in an historic landslide.

    America held hostage, day 272

    Obama/Biden 2012

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    #1.18 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:41 AM EDT

    Kirk,

    If you had read the book, then you'd probably understand this was pretty normal stuff for an early first term Presidency, so I'm not sure what your point is. Some strong personalities sniping at each other is interesting enough (see Cheney's new book) but hardly the stuff of monumental importance.

      #1.19 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:04 PM EDT
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      Interesting post on the battle for endorsements, however, I've never thought they mattered much terms of influencing voters. Endorsements seem like chits candidates collect, then pay back in favors after elections, that's about it.

      • 6 votes
      Reply#2 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:16 PM EDT

      Screw Trump- These guys need some REAL endorsements.

      Hey, No Jo, JAS1, Spank, Me First Bill, SOTB, Danger- who y'all backing here? I mean, Obama's toast, right?

      Who you gettin' behind? (ok- no jo is 'leaning', but it's early still)

      But more importantly, WHY? Inquiring minds, and all....

      • 4 votes
      #4 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:21 PM EDT

      Hey DBO, you just named the entire me me me me apostles.

      • 6 votes
      #4.1 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:24 PM EDT

      Ha! Don't hold your breath...they're voting ABO...they'd vote for Charles Manson for President if he won the nomination!

      The problem being that while we know what they're running AGAINST we don't know what they're running FOR...and that, I'm told by a conservative friend of mine, was the problem in 2004.

      • 7 votes
      #4.2 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT

      So, here's where you ran off to, dbo. I answered you on the other thread.

      Endorsements are good for one thing during the primary- campaign cash. Once a nominee is chosen, that person gets all the endorsements.

      Unlike, oh, say, the Democratic party, which has super delegates- who name the person they are planning to support, only to change their minds after getting their arms twisted.

      The last bastion of sexism. Must be sweet.

      • 3 votes
      #4.3 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:32 PM EDT

      Okay, "no joe"...but can you answer the question?

      • 2 votes
      #4.4 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:35 PM EDT

      [(ok- no jo is 'leaning', but it's early still)]

      Yeah that'll happen after a few drinks...

      • 1 vote
      #4.5 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:42 PM EDT

      No Jo had a "crush" on Mitch Daniels, before he declined to run, now she's waiting to see who he endorses...and he's waiting for anybody except the current crop of crazies and losers to run.

      • 3 votes
      #4.6 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:43 PM EDT

      I've answered the question previously. I'm leaning Perry becausemof his record of job creation. I also agree with his statements about a border fence- something along the lines of, if we build a thirty foot fence, it will cause a bull market in thirty five foot ladders.

      He's right about that- what's needed is better enforcement.

      I agree with him on in-state tuition for the children who were brought here, educated in states schools, and whose parents pay real estate taxes, either through home ownership or rent, if they're tenants.

      I agree that it is a state issue- the states do, in fact, set the tuition rates on their state colleges and universities.

      I agree that there are too many regulations- many of which are redundant, many of which are contradictory.

      I disagree on the death penalty. I'm not, however, a single issue voter.

      Good enough for you?

      • 2 votes
      #4.7 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:48 PM EDT

      Amy, dear, I'm a grown up, married woman. I do not have "crushes". I thought Daniels' would be the best candidate based on his fiscal record. He decline to run, so I'm looking at the rest of the field- although it seems to be between Perry and Romney.

      I like Herman Cain, but not his 9-9-9 plan. Why?

      Whatsmto stop a future president from making it a 20-20-20 plan? Or a 30-30-30 plan? Or 9 for some, 22 for others, 50 for, still, others?

      I don't trust politicians with my money.

      Still, he's a good candidate on a lot of issues- so I hope he will refine thatmplan to reflect the reality of what could happen to it in the wrong hands.

      • 1 vote
      #4.8 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:54 PM EDT

      You're voting for Perry based on his record of 'record of job creation'...you do realize that a good chunk of those jobs are government jobs right? So...are you voting to expand the government and decrease taxes? That is what almost always happens when we have a Republican at the helm. We'll at least if he wins, deficits won't matter anymore.

      • 4 votes
      #4.9 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:58 PM EDT

      I guess you missed it the last ten times I posted this link- which was sent to me by Nate Silver. You know him, right? 538? New York Times?

      http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

      Read and learn.

      • 1 vote
      #4.10 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:04 PM EDT

      Whats to stop a future president from making it a 20-20-20 plan? Or a 30-30-30 plan? Or 9 for some, 22 for others, 50 for, still, others?

      Surely you understand this is under control of the Congress or did something change while I was away?

      • 1 vote
      #4.11 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

      Ass come on, guys- I think it's cute when No Jo misses me to the point where she doesn't realize- unlike her- I actually move from in front of the keyboard and go do other 'stuff'.

      She thinks I 'run away', and can't play anymore until Mom brings me back and sits me down in front of the computer again.

      • 2 votes
      #4.12 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:12 PM EDT

      no joe: the issue I have with the in-state tuition for illegal immigrants is just that they are illegals. Most college students are fully adults, they are responsible for their actions. Why would any state say they don't want illegal aliens, yet they reward them with lower tuition rates ? LEGAL immigrant students from foreign countries don't get in-state rates, why should illegal immigrants get the lower rates ?

      The policy does not make sense, if you think about it.

      • 1 vote
      #4.13 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:14 PM EDT

      "I agree with him on in-state tuition for the children who were brought here, educated in states schools, and whose parents pay real estate taxes, either through home ownership or rent, if they're tenants."

      Do you agree with him that the tution should be subsidized?

      And yes, people- she DID answer my question earlier on 'who'...fair's fair.

      • 3 votes
      #4.14 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:16 PM EDT

      So, when, exactly, do you think a change in the tax rate came from congress that was NOT at the behest of a president?

      Get real. You know as well as I do that it always comes from the Oval Office to the congress. Therefore, it would be a future president who requested a change in the rates, and, if he or she had the congress behind him or her, that's when they would change.

      Dbo- there are little time stamps on the posts. See them?

      • 1 vote
      #4.15 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:17 PM EDT

      drive-by-observer

      "Ass come on, guys-"

      Jesus, Buzz- the 'w' key is ABOVE the 's' key!

      • 3 votes
      #4.16 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:17 PM EDT

      I don't know what you mean by subsidized- except by the taxpayers of the state. In state tuition is available in every state for each state's resident students. I know plenty ofmpeople who disagree with Perry- including my own governor. I simply do not see the reasoning. The state colleges and universities are funded by tax dollars- in the case of Texas, real estate taxes. Whether legal or illegal, those students parents are paying those taxes either through their rent, or directly as homeowners.

      Then again, I'm in favor of giving all the illegal aliens in the country a card other than green, that would enable them to be protected by extant laws, but would preclude them from seeking citizenship unless they went back to their country of origin, and got in line with everyone else. You have no idea the crimes these people are subject to- from employers who do not pay the proper wage, to "native born" Americans who victimize those who will never go to the police for fear of being deported.

      It's inhumane, and needs to be addressed.

      I'm a fiscal conservative- but socially, I'm to the left of a lot of you, as I've learned during my time on this board.

      • 3 votes
      #4.17 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:29 PM EDT

      Actually, just a quick clear-up on the in-state tuition brouhaha...

      The largest endowments for the Texas Public University system are (drumroll):

      Interest payments from oil money deposits that the state has collected since the oil rush began.

      Not taxpayer money (unless you could claim that the money could go to taxpayers instead, but let's face it, it can't fall under that category without drawing a whole lot of other money into that, as well). No, this is money the state made from leasing land to oil companies (and I believe railroads, if I'm not mistaken), then put in banks to procure interest in loans, etc. The Texas Public University system received approximately $15 Billion dollars in endorsements (second only to Harvard with $22 Billion, though as Harvard has one campus and servers fewer people, that number tends to skew heavily in Harvard's favor). Still, it is one of the best-funded school systems. Now, if only we could get rid of the creationist morons...

        #4.18 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:30 PM EDT

        Addendum to above:

        Those were 2002 figures, if I'm not mistaken.

          #4.19 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:38 PM EDT
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          It's all aboutmoney. But thereal moneyisnot decided bythePAC donors today..it's the backroom super bundlers likeformer sen Norm Coleman who front for anonymous donors. Coleman used to work for theRepublicanJewish Fund whihc solicits Jews. He has his own committee which inin trouble withthe IRS for failing to discle donors. He alsolet slip 50,000 credit card numbers of his former Senate fundraisng committee opening them to fraud.

          Romney has such grea tfriends, right?

          • 1 vote
          Reply#5 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

          And Arlin, what exactly is your point about soliciting campaign money from Jews?? And where is your source about Norm Coleman fraudulently turning over credit card numbers for his fundraising? I believe that would be very big news to Norm Coleman.

            #5.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:51 PM EDT
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            Romneys new campaign music could be that Beatles song "Can't Buy Me Love".

            • 3 votes
            Reply#6 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:35 PM EDT

            Ok I like that one much better. So would Obama's be "Fight for all the Wrong Reasons" by Nickleback? I also like "Your so Vain" by Carly Simon or "Couldve known better" by Richard Marx or even "You wont listen" by BB King. This is fun we should think of more

            • 1 vote
            #6.1 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:02 PM EDT

            How about we just cover the whole republican primary field with "Chain of Fools", which BTW is a kick ass song to play if you have a female singer that can pull it off.

            • 1 vote
            #6.2 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:55 PM EDT

            Unfortunately I think that song applies to all politicians whatever party they are in

              #6.3 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

              Except they make a way better living and have way better benefits than the people they say make too much and have too many benefits, so I guess the sad fact is we are the fools. I got to get going and turn a buck maybe I'll catch you later if your up late.

              • 1 vote
              #6.4 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:21 PM EDT
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              Mitt Romney's, Darrell Issa endorsement is the kiss of death for Romney as he takes one from a known criminal. Darrell Issa was a suspect in a suspicious Arson fire in September of 1982 and mis-appropriations of assets! Brownbeck and a bunch of others are known for their special treatment at the C Street Center for lodging controversy! But the best part was that "Deer in the headlight look" on Rick Perry face in the last Florida so-called debate!

              • 1 vote
              Reply#7 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:57 PM EDT

              And Obama is endorsed by the likes of Michael Moore, Fidel Castro, Cindy Sheehan and Malik Zulu Shabazz> I'll go with the republican's on this.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#8 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:21 PM EDT

              The beer is probably cold by now......you can quit with the comment line and go back to what you really wish to be doing.

              • 1 vote
              #8.1 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:57 PM EDT

              Let's not forget about the CEO of companies like Solyndra, big bunglers, I mean bundlers for Obama

                #8.2 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:09 PM EDT

                Well if you're going to hit Obama on Solyndra, remember the R's in Congress who originally sponsored Solyndra's introduction to those Energy Dept. grants...I'm sure you'll be equally mindful of them too, right?

                • 2 votes
                #8.3 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:53 PM EDT
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                The Best Solution is to Re-Elect the President and vote a bunch of Republican-Tea Potty in Congress out.

                Also, we need the Jobs bill passed and raise some taxes.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#9 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:04 PM EDT

                we need the Jobs bill passed and raise some taxes

                Of course, making them pay more taxes will make them create more jobs.

                The republicans have sent numerous jobs bills to the Senate....

                Jobs Bills Waiting for Senate Action--ASK HARRY REID....WHY HE CAN'T DO HIS JOB..

                Empower Small Business Owners and Reduce Regulatory Burdens:

                H.R. 872, the Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act
                •Passed the House by a vote of 292-130 on March 31, 2011
                •Senate has taken no action to date

                H.R. 910, the Energy Tax Prevention Act
                •Passed the House by a vote of 255-172 on April 7, 2011
                •Senate has taken no action to date

                H.J.Res. 37, a Resolution of disapproval regarding the FCC’s regulation of the Internet and broadband industry practices
                •Passed the House by a vote of 240 to 179 on April 8, 2011
                •Senate has taken no action to date
                Maximize Domestic Energy Production To Ensure An Energy Policy For The Twenty-First Century:

                H.R. 1230, Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act
                •Passed the House by a vote of 266-149 on May 5, 2011
                •Senate has taken no action to date

                H.R. 1229, Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act
                •Passed the House by a vote of 263-163 on May 11, 2011
                •Senate has taken no action to date

                • 1 vote
                #9.1 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

                Talk to Harry Reid. He's the one holding up the so-called jobs plan.

                  #9.2 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:12 PM EDT

                  These bills are nothing but anti-regulation and oil drilling bills. Where are the meaningful jobs?

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                  #9.3 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:38 PM EDT

                  Other than maybe a few more off-shore drilling jobs, I don't see how any of those are 'jobs bills'. Not to mention that we may want to make sure that the Gulf is completely clean and safe before we run head first into drilling there again...

                    #9.4 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:04 PM EDT
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                    Top 5 Lines From Obama's Speech to Students

                    "You color outside the lines every now and then.” - It is mandatory with Obama

                    “I wasn’t always the very best student.” - How would we know? You have locked up your school records. As far as any one knows, you could have failed.

                    “I still don’t always know the answers.” - and never will know ANY

                    “Figure out a way to use the sun and wind to power a city” - Just ask Solyndra

                    “Teachers are the men and women who might be working harder than anybody.” - Except in the summer?

                      Reply#10 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:05 PM EDT

                      From the RightScoop:

                      Allen West: Obama Intentionally Killing the Economy

                      Fla. Rep. Allen West was asked if President Obama is just inept or if he is intentionally harming the economy. West says he’s definitely doing this on purpose.

                      I would have to agree with Rep. West on this since every says Obama is the smartest person in the room and if he really is, then he is destroying this economy. OR, Obama really is the dumbest person in the room. No other explanation.

                        Reply#11 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:14 PM EDT

                        "Romney is only pretending to be stupid, Rick pArry really is stupid" - Bill Maher

                        I'd go with that.

                        • 3 votes
                        #11.1 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:43 PM EDT

                        [I would have to agree with Rep. West on this...]

                        You're quoting Allen West?!?

                        Allen West should really seek help for his untreated PTSD...it's obvious this dolt is one crayon short of a full box.

                        Oh, and son...how many times has your mother told you to stay off websites like "RightScoop"...they'll just rot your brains.

                          #11.2 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:06 PM EDT

                          Considering Obama has already cut the Bush deficit by 25% and a lot of economist are predicting over 50% next year, I would say West is a clown.

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                          #11.3 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:59 PM EDT

                          Mickey...you obviously are not a veteran with ANY combat service.There are a lot of average battle tested officers. But very few bona fide hero combat officers. Rep. West is and was and always will be a real american hero. I have 3 combat tours in my 10 years active and 6 years active reserves and I would follow that man into hell to preserve and protect your right to a opinion. The least you can do is have some respect. I dont believe you have it in you but at least I have rubbed your nose in your own shyt.....if you choose not to smell it thats your issue!

                          • 1 vote
                          #11.4 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:24 PM EDT
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                          Romney and Perry should start wearing their donors names on their suits, like NASCAR. At least all of us would know what the pecking order is. I don't think US citizens would make the list.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#12 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:53 PM EDT

                          Romney gets support from Wall Street because he believes Wall Street doesn't need to be regulated and Perry gets support from big oil because he believes people love to work for minimum wage and they love when big oil destroys the environment. Both of these clowns would work out just excellent for this Country. Ugh

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                          Reply#13 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:57 PM EDT

                          Wow, another "Perry / Romney" story. Why does the media try so hard to imprint these two names in our heads?

                            Reply#14 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:34 PM EDT

                            because they're the only names with a chance in hell of making it into the next round?

                              #14.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:55 PM EDT
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                              Perry defends Obama's immigration policies, While Romney defends Obamacare, hahahaha

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#15 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:55 PM EDT

                              Why is MSNBC so afraid of Perry??

                              Oh thats right, he can beat Obama!!!

                              Perry 2012

                                Reply#16 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:34 PM EDT

                                Perry is in the second year as Governor. He has less experience than Palin. How does the GOP feel he is so qualified to be President? It seems he's short on experience.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#17 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:49 PM EDT

                                x

                                  Reply#18 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:13 PM EDT

                                  For the first time in a long while I have faith that we can put a man in office that stands for what our forefathers thought this country could be. Perry, Romney, Bachmanm, Cain. What an exceptional group of people. Obama has really suprised me at his arrogance and incompetence and I absolutely detest his whining that it's someone else's fault, that you better pass my jobs plan or else. The man is not a leader and is a product of everyhting that is wrong in this country. These candidates all give me hope that America's best days are ahead and it's worst will end in November. God's Speed to the Republican candidates and God bless America!

                                    Reply#19 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04 PM EDT

                                    That was tongue in cheek, right? Perry, Romney, Bachman, Cain "outstanding"?? The ones who want to throw out whole portions of the constitution that they don't agree with? Or the ones who don't even understand the questions.

                                    (God bless America is right. With an electorate like this, we need all the help we can get.)

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #19.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:57 PM EDT
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                                    immigration is considered a liability issue for perry in primaries but is really an asset for him in national elections. hispanic vote is solidly behind him.

                                      Reply#20 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:39 PM EDT

                                      This is only a test to see if my comments are finally shown

                                        Reply#21 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:26 AM EDT

                                        Tweetle dee & Tweetle dum, repub reality stars. it would be hilarious to see these to lug nuts escorted off the panels like the incoherent kim delaney.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#22 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:46 AM EDT

                                        THIS IS ALL THAT MATTERS

                                        Obama vs. Republican Candidates

                                        RCP Average

                                        Obama Perry

                                        49% ……..41.5%

                                        Obama Romney

                                        47.1………….44.4

                                        Obama Cain

                                        45.6………….36

                                        Obama Palin

                                        52.3………….36.7

                                        Obama Bachmann

                                        50.1………….38.9

                                        Obama Ron Paul

                                        49……………38

                                        Obama Pawlenty

                                        48……………37

                                        Obama Huntsman

                                        43……………33

                                        ----------------------------------

                                        Source: real clear politics.c o m

                                        Updated: 9/28/11

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#23 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:45 AM EDT

                                        Neither Romney or Perry will be president. Neither of them are qualified enough to hold office. As usual, the list of candidates are worthless running for the republican party. The only sensible proposal is the 999 Cain. Price of goods go up by .75% to 1% for most Americans through sales taxes. However, recouped on the personal income tax which for the average American stands at roughly 18 to 28% at present. We can see where the republican party would have an issue with Cain. Lost revenue.

                                          Reply#24 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:26 AM EDT

                                          One more fact about Perry with us is he nailed his coffin shut by giving illegal immigrants college tuition when we have a state of legal citizens whom would rather that money come to us first!!!

                                            Reply#25 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:30 AM EDT

                                            That money DOES go to anyone in the state who can get into college. That's why it's called IN-STATE tuition rates. You seem to think this is some kind of scholarship Perry signed. The same as anyone else living in your state. What the heck are you talking about??

                                              #25.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:59 PM EDT
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                                              Perry is much more of what we want, hes not a mormon or a miniority, hes a christian and the tea party loves him. He's for ending entitlements like social security(a Ponzie scheme) and face it romney is a dem and pretty much admits dems have good ideas because he is one. Perry will be our next president-make it happen vote tea party were takin america back!!

                                                Reply#26 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:02 AM EDT

                                                Thought Bachmann was your candidate,oh thats right she is getting her a$$ kicked so we've jumped ship to Perry.Who will it be next week,Palin , Trump , Christy , ?

                                                  #26.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:28 AM EDT
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