Joe Walsh, deadbeat Dad

Joe Wilson, heckled the President during State of the Union speech.

Got it.

Every last one of the 'shut it down' crowd in Congress should be put in a 'part-time' pay status!

Let's see how they like that.......hourly wage with no health care!

Got it.

LOL Amy!

So many jerk-off Joe's so little time to keep them straight...

Kind of the all the re-reg's around here! ;o)

Feisty--no worry that the bill won't pass----anyone objecting to it would have to actually SHOW UP to vote against it.

So we have a vote to keep the Country running for a whole week.

Whoopee.

Saaaaayyy...........speaking of the Weeper of the house, where ARE the jobs???

Chilled that is a GREAT idea, I was thinking about it myself. Have all government employees,(except those who are ON CALL OR DUTY ALL THE TIME, ARMED FORCES, PRESIDENT, ETC) be put on a time card and have them punch in and out every time they are actually on the job working.

My other question was, how do they (government people) get paid? weekly, bi weekly, monthly or once a year? When I was in the army we got paid twice a month, but we we on duty 24/7. Government people aren't! Do they still get paid while on vacation or on this week long resist?

Steeler Fan-380417 "Feisty--no worry that the bill won't pass----anyone objecting to it would have to actually SHOW UP to vote against it."

Like the Democrats in Wisconsin? By the way - did the world come to an end when the Wisconsin bill passed? I didn't hear about anything drastic happening.

They had better pass it. The American people are getting darn tried of the game playing.

Wow, the government will be funded all the way to next month? That's if someone in the Tea Party Raucous doesn't show and and shut things down. Feisty, Joe Walsh, or maybe Joe Wilson is the type who would do such a thing. As usual you hit the nail on the head. And Steeler Fan, you are correct too. JoeWalsh won't even show up at court hearings to pay all that child support he owes. But seriously folks, one week here, another month there--it's putting Band-Aids on a gaping wound, because that's what congress has been reduced to now that Republicans are in control.

But for the love of (God's got nothing to do with it), we have got to rid ourselves of the Teapublican anarchists. Oh, and their low-information supporters. Where to start?!

If Ron Paul, the only true Libertarian in the Congress, really wanted to shut down the government and end FEMA, he should show up and object.

Yep,

Again, the Replicans are called on to put the bandaid on the Obama caused wound.

I would let it bleed out....

In any event, maybe the Dems will now have to think about the money they throw to the wind.

It would be a minor problem if the government shut down if, say, Ron Paul or anybody would show up and vote no. After all, FEMA did find $180 million in their sofa overnight.

The real trouble is looming, the work of the super-committee, then both houses of Congress, then the trigger alternative, and after the trigger, the backtracking of the hypocrits of every ilk because when Social Security benefits takes a major hit every politician faces losing their election and joining the rolls of the unemployed.

The "stop-gap" spending bill as written, if passed, would expire November 18th, 6 days before Thanksgiving which is the drop-dead deadline for the super-committee to finish their work. Can you imagine the news reports around that time? Perfect.

@Derf-1791763

Thanks for your service...

I don't know how they are paid ...but the salaries start in the $175,000.00 range and go upward. Time cards do sound like a great idea!

Derf & chilled

Let me offer some clearity. I am retired from the Army and am now a government worker for the Army. I am a General Schedule (GS) employee. I get paid every two weeks and I am required to file a time card for every pay period stating my hours worked and time taken off. Fraudulent time card = fired. My salary is FAR LESS than $175,000 a year, in fact it is lower than the civilian equivilant for my position. I, like many gov't workers, are living paycheck to paycheck, just like most everybody else. The benefits I receive are average for any other middle class job offering benefits. I pay the same taxes as everybody else. The vast majority of gov't workers are just like everybody else, just doing the job they are paid to to as best as they can while dealing with layoffs and budget cuts. Oh yah, and I haven't seen an annual raise in a couple of years, just like many of you.

Feisty red weave, get a clue (teabagger vs red weave seems fair). The reason the Tea Party is stronger than you is because they are tired of paying taxes to support the lazy - you. I consider you one of the lazy since you always get the first response on first read. If you work, you work for MSNBC or you do nothing for your employers since you are here first most of the time. You never uphold the rules of the board yet are the first to attack anyone who bends them. DO you know the term "hypocrisy?" It is you.

But that is ok. Everyone here sees you as the shill you are. You have nothing to say but love name calling. You couldn't debate yourself out of the price of a taco when you didn't receive it at Taco Bell.

Bottom line: you are a shill for MSNBC and a bad one. You want socialism, a free ride. You have no skills, no intelligence and no life, as shown by your constantly being first on first. You think government owes you something and constantly whine when you don't get it. Listen up weave, the government is we the people. We are tired of your constant whining and only want you to do for yourself instead of us doing for you.

Lose the weave, tighten your belt/belly and get a life. You and people like you only exist to destroy America. You contribute nothing yet want others to pay your way. Your time is done.

20 year vet, a double dipper. Het thanks for your service for 20 years. I know that you are making a helluva lot more now than when you were in the military. You will get more when you actually retire than most do. That you are not making $175k is your choice. You could have just retired yet you chose to become a government employee again. Double dip. You will get an additional retirement likely much higher the your miltary retirement. Good for you. Double dip.

Get what you can while you can. Don't blame you for doing what you can do. Take the government for whatever you can take it for. That seems to be the norm today, except for us who are paying the bill.

But, MRWSR...what would happen to the pork that is slated to go to the Tea Party's districts? I mean government spending is always bad - unless it's for a Tea PArty district, then its infrastructure improvement.

Remember...it's only waste if it isn't going to YOUR district!

Amy,

A balanced budget amendment would kill pork spending. I don't want to see any and have not heard that from any Tea Party group.

The beautifaction projects that I have seen, all stem from the left and have billions attached.

How many people will be hurt by shutting is down. Just plain people trying to make end meet like the rest of the country. Ya shut it down and put more people on the street what do you care not your problem DA

tis the season,

This country is not a nanny state and I will fight how ever I can not to see it become one. We should not be dependent on the gov. for anything. It is destroying my childrens future. I will do all I can to help stop your agenda. This is my view and you being all about free speech need to back off the Tea Party for its views and message, we have just as much a say as you do.

No you make it clear you have more rights "you being all about free speach need to back off the Tea Party for its views and message" now I have no right to an opinion just you and the Tparty. You and your party do have rights just not more than the person next to you but yours is more important right? I said nothing about a nanny state, I was asking for you and your kind to think about how many people you will add the the unemployment line when the government shuts down. How will that help the economy? How many more children will be harmed by your actions and again you have the same reply who cares my opinion is more important than yours. Your problems are not mine. You MRWSR are the poster child for stupidity in this country your simply a red neck pig. Simply due to the fact you do not think anyone else has an opinion to be heard but yours. BAhhh.

Wow Tis the season,

Almost converted me. I value your opinion and enjoy debates. But you sir are way out there. You are very wise with the insults (by the way redneck is one word). You just showed how much we are becoming a nanny state, you don't have to use those words, I know y'all are not suppose to. If all of these horrible things happen if the gov. shuts down, then we are too dependent. You are for social justice and sir you can not madate moral obligation. If you honestly think I would like to't see one child suffer than you are fixed on your hate for the Tea Party. It is beyond me to try to comprehend why you will allow a gov. to have so much controll. You will vote your way, I will vote mine. One of us will be happy and one will not. But you have the whitehouse and the senate, had the house and still scream like your cat died. I don't get it.

I'm going to go along with MRSWR here on the 'nanny-state' charge. I mean, for instance, why the hell should the 'gubmint' regulate something like nuclear energy and the production facilities associated with it??

MRWSR- I know that regulation might have some negative, or potentially clamatous bearing on 'destroying your children's futures', but what the hey, right??

Drive by,

I agree with oversite and regulation, just not to the depths it has gone.

I agree, MRWSR- but how and where do you draw the line? Some regulation that helps you might stymie me, and vice-versa. I just hate to see ALL regulation being blamed on the lack of job creation, when demand is such a larger determinant.

Anyone who wants to shut the government down is a complete idiot domestic terrorist that should be thrown out of Congress. The 2012 election can’t come fast enough, because the American people are growing much tried of this Tea Potty minority.

That's tricky, but I feel that the business leaders need some relief to help create some more demand. If we can curb some of it, it may boost confidence in the markets and spill over into the consumer. It has in the past, just feel like some of the industries are hit and forced to sit on money or invest somewhere else. I probly just don't enough and do need to learn more, just live in oil country and see these rough necks and they tell me all the time.

Thanks for the support JOB1. Terrorist, I know that comes from the heart.

Hahahaha, the left wants government to shut down, but you encourage the Republican House to do it. Provide ONE single quote, link, YouTube or what have you to prove that the left wants a shut down. We could provide such proof from Teapublicans all day long. In fact, last night on the news was a video of all the clips of right-wingers saying just that. Well, the conservatives who remember how that went last time (Gingrich) aren't so enthusiastic about a shut down. Only idiots would think it's a good idea.

True Patriot,

You've got me, I have no youtube clips for you and glad the news if proving your case all day. I have no leg to stand and will quietly bow out of this exchage before I emabrass myself. Good luck and damn the man and kill whitey etc.....

MRWSR your not bad at name calling either, I am also sure compaired to you I am way out there, I have my head above water and you are drowning. I will go with DBO on where do you draw the line who decides were that line is. Its easy to say but hard to do without someone feeling they got the short straw. Also how do business owners create demand for their product. I believe that is consumers create demand, and how do they create demand with no money. How do we get jobs when there are no jobs without demand and of course then we are right back to no jobs no money to create demand. Do you start with the chicken or the egg. You need to put more thought into what you are demanding. Again shutting down the Government does not help your cause it only shows you to be a radical person no rational. Does Government need to change of course but how do you do that, we could go your way and create an even bigger problem or we can work through the system and make change slower and muchless painful. The repubs have tried this shutting down before and it did not turn out very good for them, I doubt it would for you either. It just brings out more hate but then thats your goal right.

I would also like to see it shut down. If we stop pouring money into government, then maybe they will be forced to evaluate each piece of spending on its merits. We have government departments that have no reason to exist and spend money on programs that are nice, but we cannot afford right now.

Families budget. Businesses budget. Government just votes for a bigger pile of moeny to spend.

It needs to stop. If shutting the whole things down is what it takes, then I am all for it.

Tis the Season,

You have your agenda, stick to it. I have mine. I am not trying to convince you to sway, or change your mind,(I know better). You are not so enlightend that you are above reproach. Your sin is your vanity that you have it all figured out. Nobody has it figured out. Shut it down. That is my view. My view, I speak for nobody but me. So rant like True Patirot and feel good about your belittling of others and your way is the only way to get your head above water (since I am drowning). Good day to you.

dsdsherm again another narrow mind full of self interest only, damn the torpedos full steam ahead, who cares about an iceberg. Stop for a second and consider what shutting down the Government really means beyond your narrow view. Who will it affect the most, just working people not the ones you want to get the point. If you want to close down a useless department start with Homeland Security, that is the biggest cash cow in the country bar none.

dsdsherm: they don't even vote, they just "deem it passed" and move onto the next item their lobbyists have given them.

My interest is not my own. It is in the best interest of the country.

You propose just because it would be painfull to change that we continue to spend money we dont have so that it does not affect anyone? Who are we? Greece? Isn't that the mindset that got them where they are today?

We continue to pass spending measures because it will be painfull today to fix. It will be more painfull down the road. The governement employees are getting paid in IOUs we must pay later. It is time to convert some back into the private sector. If we are going to spend money we dont have, I vote it is on cuts to encourage job grow and stimulate small business expansion. That way we may have a chance to move some from the government jobs into the private sector.

I know I may seem to have a narrow minded view, but it is my view none-the-less. The idea of continuing to spend and expand the workforce internal to the government is creating the need for such revenue increases to pay for all of it. It stiffles the growth of companies as they see this fiscal irresponsibility and know the day will come where they must foot the bill for it. So they hoard cash and wait.

If there was a business freindly and proactive apporach put into place, maybe that mentality would change. I really doubt it now, as the perpetuation of it all has dropped all demand to nothing. But all the governement overspending to this point has not built demand, so why continue to try it? If the first trillion dollars did not get things moving, maybe the theory is flawed.

So lets back up and try a new theory. Cut the size and need of the government. Show some fiscal cutting. Cut regulations. And provide REAL incentive for expansion in the pricate sector, not just the temporary ones proposed by BHO. Get rid of the OBAMACARE cloud on the horizon for business. We certainly cannot afford that right now. And see if businesses perk up.

We have tried the spend our way out plan the last 6-8 years or so (and yes I am including Bush as he started this spending spree). Maybe it is time we tried the cut spending to the bone plan.

I think Golden Gate bridge (which I will never use, so why do I pay for it), Hoover Dam (that I would pay for) Courthouses (too extravagant for what their purpose is) Railroad stations (Dont Buffet own the railroads?) Post Offices (you really want to use this example?) Police and firemen and EMTS(again, worthwhile) Science labs (to study mating habits of some obscure species I could care less about) Parks (cant afford them right now) Museamums (again, cut all these as they are nice but not needed) Libraries (cut away)

We borrow 40 cents on every dollar we spend. So either 40% has to go, or we have to pay more. And I pay enough. I dont want all these services and niceties if it is coming out of my pocket.

So shut it down and cut them all.

dsdsherm, you should stop posting. You are embarrasing yourself.

Lets see, Hummm, Jim Christie is on a Political National fund raising tour, so is Obie, yes they care nothing about money. LOL and which rock do you sleep under. All Government cares about is money. All its programs, all its sacrifices for you are about money. The primal driving rule each morning, mid-morning,noon, mid-afternoon,dinner, after dinner, is about money.