Axelrod: 2012 will be 'titanic struggle'

MANCHESTER, NH -- President Obama's former senior adviser and campaign strategist David Axelrod acknowledged this morning that the 2012 presidential election will be an uphill battle for the incumbent president facing a struggling economy and high unemployment.

"This is going to be a titanic struggle," Axelrod told about 200 people at a Politics & Eggs breakfast at New Hampshire Institute of Politics at St. Anselm College. "But I firmly believe we are on the right side of the struggle."

"In 2008, we had the wind at our backs," Axelrod admitted. "Now, we don't have the wind at our back. We have the wind in our faces, because the American people have the wind in their faces."

Axelrod blamed Republicans lawmakers in Washington for taking partisan lines and preventing Obama from accomplishing major initiatives.

"We honestly thought when we got to Washington, we'd get some cooperation from folks across the aisle," he said.

He then called the current field of GOP presidential candidates “the most ideological, partisan group of Republicans in my lifetime."

Axelrod specifically highlighted the Republican presidential debate last week, when a handful of audience members booed a gay soldier from Iraq after he posed a question about the repeal of the military’s "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy.

“Not one person on that platform, not one candidate was willing to say, ‘Don’t do that. It’s inappropriate to boo someone who’s risking his life for our country, who’s serving our country honorably.'"

As for Obama's chances against current Republican front-runners Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, Axelrod forecasted a "contest between economic visions and values."

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I hate to say it but this Chicago politician who became president I think knows no other way than to suck all the luxury benefits from being a president, talk, talk, talk as if he is going to do something, push some papers around like the health care bill, loose the reelection, write a bunch of books, talk, talk some more and sit pretty for the rest of his life to make more money like the clintons. I really don't think Obama wants to be reelected he just does not show it no passion,no push, just me me me jet setting around the world

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Reply#55 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT

Hey Democrats, when Axelrod says it's a "Titanic struggle" and Maxine Waters doesnt understand why Obama says to "stop complainin"..........you know it's time for the bumper stickers to read "ONE AND DONE."

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Reply#56 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:52 PM EDT

I heard the guy selling ..."don't blame me...I didn't vote for the hope dope" can't keep the shelves filled with them.

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#56.1 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT

Circling the wounded lying, the jackals yelp and growl. Occasionally one jumps from the security of the pack to make a lunge and tear at another piece of flesh. The smell of blood in the air seems to work them into a frenzy. Once again these lowly and despised creatures have managed to bring down a nobler beast by their communal instinct to seize upon moments of weakness and vulnerability. This drama of life plays out again and again, yet in the end we know that both the jackals and the lions will survive, perhaps because the jackals know that they must be jackals, and the lions know that they must be lions.

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#56.2 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:21 PM EDT

Windy

Was that quote from Saul Linsky's book that Obummer treats like his Bible... ooops or his Koran???

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#56.3 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT

Thank you Donald Trump.

    #56.4 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:36 AM EDT
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    Didn't the Titanic hit an iceberg? Just like the Good ship "Obumbles" is hitting reality???

    Bye bye Barack!!! you incompetent empty suit loser!

      #57 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

      lets take a reality test. In 1981 what did the "best" president we have ever had do. He followed Keysnian economics. He cut tax which stimulates then he busted the budget and overspent- only to prove his brillance he never called it a stimulus bill. He called it Defense spending, and the Repugs loved him for it.

        #57.1 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:58 PM EDT

        and i'm sure you have a point to make....but are really good at keeping it concealled. But let me point a big difference out to you in your reality check.... Reagan was a real president, not a contrived, extremist backed smooth talking commie plant, like President Obummer is.

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        #57.2 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT

        Paxil: You're arguing with someone who thinks that connecting "titanic" and "iceberg" is a brilliant and original joke. That said, BOB, CALLING THE POTUS A "COMMIE PLANT" -- MY LORD I'M AFRAID YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS. PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH MY STATE SO I CAN TAKE A VACATION.

          #57.3 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT

          paxil, the world is a very different place than it was in 1981. The debt is almost $15 trillion, unemployment is 9.1%, our borders are being overrun with illegals, and the terrorists vow to attack us again. Don't look back for solutions, look forward.

            #57.4 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:05 PM EDT

            Windy.... I don't ordinarily drive thru your State unless I'm coming back into my Country, the United States of America. Mexico is just not a place I want to be. (besides......when you are on welfare, can you take a vacation from it?)

              #57.5 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT

              Paxil, only you could rewrite economics books. I believe Reagan cuts taxes drastically. The top rate went from over 70% to 28%. Now I am not a PHD in economics but that is the opposite of Keynesian economics. Reagan did not start his major push on defense until after the tax cuts had pass and the economy was in full recovery.

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              #57.6 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:11 PM EDT

              Leona:

              the point is that the same measures were employed in 1981 as Obama tried in 2009. The main problem was the size of the economy is larger, etc etc etc.

              But the TP and Repugs like to point out that the stimulus didnt work, its socialism, etc etc.

              Reagan the "god" of the right basically used the same economic means as Obama tried without all the vitriol. Could it just be partisan politics? McCconnel in Jan 2009 famous memo to his republicans on how to make Obama a one term President. Demints tweet- "we will break him". Joe Wilson infamous cry of You Lie.

              Of course in the 52 days in office the Republicans were forced into the position they took. Sure thing and if you believe that I got some swamp land to sell ya.

                #57.7 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

                Ray

                dont know how to break this to you but Keynes said he didnt care how the money got out there - tax cuts, gifts, whatever it is.. A tax cut is stimulative- the problem we have the Laffer curve said the cut will always stimulate and will always increase the amount of money coming back to the government.The reality is it is only half true- go to fact check.org. The govt always has less money then if the tax cut did not occur.

                The end result is Reagan used the same methods called for by Keynes andf the balance imbalance began before the economy regained itself- thats why Mondale was saying in 1984 we need a tax increase because Reagan was busting the budget.

                The TP and Repugs- long on ideology and short on facts

                  #57.8 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:19 PM EDT

                  Revisionist history !!!!

                    #57.9 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:20 PM EDT

                    read a book and quit watching faux news.

                    The TP and Repugs- long on ideology and short on facts

                      #57.10 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:25 PM EDT

                      Paxil, under your definition doing anything is Keynesian. Sorry, the point of Keynesian economic is that government spending and the government itself is the impetus of the economy. Reagan revised the whole tax code which did away with about 2/3 of all the deductions and loopholes at the time. This is revisionist history. Only the left considers not taking money out of the economy as government spending. You are not putting money into the economy. You are not confiscating money and it isn't government spending

                        #57.11 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:27 PM EDT

                        FLASH FOLKS: Bob just called me a Mexican on welfare. I must have hit the mark. Okay, Bob, your iceberg joke wasn't half bad. But can you stop with the Obummer, Obumbles, Odumbo and all that stuff. That's getting tired.

                          #57.12 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:28 PM EDT

                          PAXIL: "Of course in the 52 days in office the Republicans were forced into the position they took. Sure thing and if you believe that I got some swamp land to sell ya."

                          I think what's important here is how the American people feel. Congress works for us. The Republicans were voted in in a landslide in 2010 because the American people want the national debt to decrease, they want to cut spending.

                            #57.13 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:31 PM EDT

                            No Ray- the common believe was classical capitalism- it all falls down and will be rebuilt. The government under Hoover was cutting the budget to lower government involvement. Keynes said the opposite needed to be done.

                            Read a book and please quit watching Faux News- at least Glenn Beck is off the tv

                              #57.14 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:32 PM EDT

                              Leona- I know elections have consequences and all that. In 2008 he campaigned on the EXACT health care plan that we have. He has done a better job then most of living up to his campaign pledges. So if elections have consequences why were the repugs from day one campaigning to Prevent his ability to implement his plan.

                                #57.15 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:37 PM EDT

                                paxil, you need to really read some good history books. Hoover did as much government stimulus spending late in his administration as FDR did. Source: Not Glenn Beck but: FDR and the New Deal, Columbia University Press. You need to stop watching MSNBC like most of America has.

                                  #57.16 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:44 PM EDT

                                  Paxil:"I know elections have consequences and all that. In 2008 he campaigned on the EXACT health care plan that we have. He has done a better job then most of living up to his campaign pledges. "

                                  PROBLEM IS, 70% of Americans did NOT want Obama's health care plan and the Dems shoved it down our throats and crafted it behind closed doors before anyone could even read it !!!!!!

                                    #57.17 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

                                    Ray W-just went on line and read a little of the encyclopedia Britannia- so he was stimulating the economy even more then FDR at the end of his term that he passed the Revenue Act of 1932 to raise Tax so he could balance the budget.

                                    Seems like he was working at cross purposes there doesnt it Ray?

                                    The TP and Repugs- long on ideology and short on facts

                                    Ray thanks I just love saying that and you guys are so helpful with your mis- understanding of history. Oh and Hoover was so great when the vets from WW1 demanded their bonus and set up Hooverville he called in the army. Gotta love those compassionate Repugs- at least they remain the same throughout time.

                                      #57.18 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:23 PM EDT

                                      Leona-

                                      love the fact you miss the main point of my statement. He was elected by the VAST majority(largest majority in how many years) and the Repugs who love to say elections have consequences Immediately went to work to Destroy this President.

                                        #57.19 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:26 PM EDT

                                        I need a paxil

                                        that's because it's the duty of Americans to defend our country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

                                        If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual State. In a single State, if the persons entrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.
                                        -- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

                                        "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington

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                                        #57.20 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:41 PM EDT

                                        I can call you an enemy and am determined to defend my country. Just because I feel that way or say that does not make it true. Duh

                                          #57.21 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:55 PM EDT

                                          Larry, thank you for reminding us of this: ""A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington

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                                          #57.22 - Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:39 AM EDT
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                                          1912 was a titanic struggle.

                                          2012 will be a titanic centennial (:

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                                          Reply#58 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT

                                          The Left, in addition to its embrace of the false (higher taxes means increased prosperity for all) and its acceptance of the moot as incontrovertible (Global Warming), must account for the incidental effect of the sum of these decisions. This effect is the destruction of our economy.

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                                          Reply#59 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:10 PM EDT

                                          My lord, Sniper, your vocabulary is impressive. But if you still think that global warming is moot, you're in a very small scientific minority whose stubborness is incontrovertible, and usually well-paid.

                                            #59.1 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:24 PM EDT

                                            it is not a scientific minority it is a majority of luddites. They have no concept of what they say- not one national academy of sciences has ever stated climate change is not made worse by man's c02 emissions. Not one

                                              #59.2 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:28 PM EDT

                                              Keyboard Mall Ninja (Willing.Sniper), it was the Republican "Starve the Beast" theory of running up massive deficits under Reagan and Bush 43 that destroyed the economy, not the 4% higher taxes under Clinton that was bringing down the deficit. Bush 42 raised taxes to bring down the Reagan deficits and you Republican idiots crucified him. Some of the credit for the prosperity under Clinton should go to Bush 41.

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                                              #59.3 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:13 PM EDT
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                                              One Term loser! But... the biggest loser was the United States for having him for one term.

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                                              Reply#60 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:13 PM EDT

                                              The only successful use of a 'stimulas' program by a Demoratic president was when Bill Clinton bought his first bottle of viagra.

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                                              Reply#61 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:16 PM EDT

                                              Axelrod: 2012 will be 'titanic struggle'

                                              I can only hope the god king's campaign ends up the same way the Titanic did........

                                              replytoj001

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                                              Reply#62 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:18 PM EDT

                                              I agree far more with the Wall Street Journal than Axelrod. Most of America has made up it's mind on Obama and polls show the American voter is ready to replace Obama. There isn't much that Obama and the Democrats can do to persuade the American voter about Obama. It is now whether that American voter finds a Republican candidate appealing enough to vote out Obama. Therefore, the Democrats must demonize and scare Americans because it is their only real hope to beat the Republicans. So expect this election to get real down and dirty.

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                                              Reply#63 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:18 PM EDT

                                              I read these columns and understand why the republican debates cheer the death of a 30 year old who didnt have health insurance AND BOO the Iraqi soldier for coming out.

                                              Go to church on Sunday and really really listen to the sermons. What a bunch of heartless John Galt wanna be's

                                                Reply#64 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:24 PM EDT

                                                paxill you need more than a paxill. a bottle of a good laxative would do you some good too.

                                                  #64.1 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:29 PM EDT

                                                  Can you tell me where in the Bible does it tell us to depend on the government or government entity to provide our daily sustenance or charity. The problem is the left wants to transfer commandments the Bible gives to individuals personally to the government then says they are following the Bible. When I read the Bible I don't see anything about the government in the commandment God gave us about widows and orphans in the church.

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                                                  #64.2 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:32 PM EDT

                                                  Ray in Genesis we are asked if we are our brothers keeper. The New Testament I think is a re affirmation of the answer.

                                                    #64.3 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:40 PM EDT

                                                    paxil - both of your assertions are untrue, and you know it. Shame on you!

                                                      #64.4 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:42 PM EDT

                                                      Jonathan- how?

                                                      The story of Cain and Abel and I do believe the golden rule is in the New Testament somewhere

                                                        #64.5 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:44 PM EDT

                                                        Paxil-

                                                        your view of Christian charity is of the spirit of the Anti-Christ. Helping the needy for Christians must come from the heart and be done as unto Jesus Himself (Matthew 25, Isaiah 58, and others). You are advocating something very UNCHRISTIAN which is socialism by wanting it to be done by compulsion and theft, it amounts to asking Christians to sin by putting our trust and glory to man/government instead of God. You cannot glorify God as Christians are not only required to do, but love doing, when you transfer the glory from God to man. Nor are you doing it as unto Christ.

                                                        ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

                                                        Matthew 25:40

                                                        having the govt seize our property and redistributing it to glorify man/govt is a sin and contrary to the teachings of Jesus

                                                        and in 2 Corinthians 9:6-15

                                                        But this I say: He who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. 7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for every good work. 9 As it is written:

                                                        He has dispersed abroad,
                                                        He has given to the poor;
                                                        His righteousness endures forever.”

                                                        10 Now may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, supply and multiply the seed you have sown and increase the fruits of your righteousness, 11 while you are enriched in everything for all liberality, which causes thanksgiving through us to God. 12 For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God, 13 while, through the proof of this ministry, they glorify God for the obedience of your confession to the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal sharing with them and all men, 14 and by their prayer for you, who long for you because of the exceeding grace of God in you. 15 Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!

                                                        Isaiah 58:6-9

                                                        This is the kind of fasting I have chosen:
                                                        Loosen the chains of wickedness,
                                                        untie the straps of the yoke, let the oppressed go free, and break every yoke.
                                                        7Share your food with the hungry, take the poor and homeless into your house,
                                                        and cover them with clothes when you see them naked.
                                                        Don’t refuse to help your relatives.

                                                        8Then your light will break through like the dawn, and you will heal quickly.
                                                        Your righteousness will go ahead of you, and the glory of the Lord will guard you from behind.
                                                        9Then you will call, and the Lord will answer.
                                                        You will cry for help, and he will say, “Here I am!”

                                                        As a Pastor and theologian I consider the leftist argument for surrendering our personal responsibilities to be part of the downfall of Christianity in America and another indication of just how malignant the spread of marxism is to all Americans

                                                          #64.6 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:45 PM EDT

                                                          As a pastor you know the bible can be used for any position.

                                                          The Republican debates have Ron Paul MD defending the "fate" of his 30 year old campaign manager who died of a brain tumor and did not have health insurance and the crowd cheers. Executing convicts and they yell some more.

                                                          I am not a pastor but know that what is good about Christianity and other religions is the awareness that there is a shared humanity among us all. We are our brother's keeper and when we walk away from others need we lessen ourself.

                                                          I also know the golden rule is true- those that have the gold make the rules. In my opinion it is the job of government to make sure the playing field is level and fair. I know of no democrat that says the government is responsible to feed and house someone for life. But making sure someone has the ability to provide for them self and to offer assistance to enable them to do so is the responsibility of us all.

                                                            #64.7 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:07 PM EDT

                                                            Paxil, in Genesis, what was God's response to that question? God blew right through that question because it was something that a sinner(Cain) was trying to us to change the subject from his personal guilt. With God it always goes back to our personal responsibility for his commandments. Nowhere does God make the responsibility for these problems on the government. The responsibility is on us individually. Trying to push our responsibility off onto the government just doesn't work with God.

                                                              #64.8 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:32 PM EDT

                                                              The New Testament does say in 2 Thess. 3:10 that if a man is not willing to work, he should not eat. I cannot find anywhere where God tells us we are obligated to be our brother's keeper. He does tell us to take care of the widows and orphans in the church. Any other charity within the church is voluntary.

                                                                #64.9 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:40 PM EDT

                                                                Ray-

                                                                all I know my concept of God does not cheer the fact that someone who didnt buy health insurance and died. My concept of God does not cheer the fact that we have so many executions in this country that we compete with China and Saudi Arabia for being number one in executions. Add to that the fact that the number of those executed are predominately not white and almost exclusively poor and I think you have a problem.

                                                                May be your belief system is more compatable with that position then mine. I have always been taught the moral of Cain and Abel is we are responsible for our brother(not literal) . Got to go

                                                                  #64.10 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:04 PM EDT
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                                                                  The question for voters to ask themselves is not ..is Barack Obama dumb? but rather How dumb is Barack Obama??? I say ''titanically dumb"!

                                                                    Reply#65 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:27 PM EDT

                                                                    Okay, Bob. I think you've exhausted the variations on "titanic". Here are other untapped images you might strain for new humor:

                                                                    The band that played on deck until the last minute

                                                                    The passengers who were trapped in steerage.

                                                                    The lack of an adequate number of lifeboats.

                                                                    The captain going down with the ship.

                                                                    Leo DeCapprio saying, "I'm on top of the world."

                                                                    (You're welcome.)

                                                                      #65.1 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:37 PM EDT

                                                                      Is this a pop quiz teach??? You just sprung it on me.

                                                                      let's see: That band wasn't in the union... The union band refused to get on board until they were guaranteed first class accomodations and were allowed to sleep with Kate Winslet.

                                                                      The passengers that were trapped in steerage were the ones that were also the first to find out about the fact that the North Atlantic was very cold that time of year

                                                                      The lack of an adequate number of lifeboats was made even worse when the liberal captain ordered half of them broken up for firewood, so as to melt the iceberg and prevent other ships from also hitting it.

                                                                      The captain going down with his ship....again the captain....being a liberal.... was willing to have his crew go down with his ship, but without him in it. Kind of like the liberal that wants the less financially endowed voter to get taxpayer's(crew's ) money, but none of his.

                                                                      Leo DeCapprio saying "I'm on the top of the world" vs. Barack Obama saying "Well I guess I couldn't"

                                                                      How did I do teach???

                                                                        #65.2 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:53 PM EDT

                                                                        Ha! Rose to the occasion and then some. I may not agree with you politically, but I appreciate your sense of humor. Especially the union contract provision about Kate Winslet.

                                                                          #65.3 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:57 PM EDT

                                                                          lol glad you liked it! time to go home and face the real boss

                                                                          take care!

                                                                            #65.4 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:08 PM EDT
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                                                                            Paxill.....how dumb is Barack Obama??? Is he a billion or a trillion times dumber than a door nail?

                                                                              Reply#66 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:31 PM EDT

                                                                              Like I said the majority of Americans have made up their minds on Obama. It is their opinions of the Republican candidates they are forming opinions of. Why do you think there is so much negative left press on the Republican candidates this early. The left wing media knows that Obama's only chance is to make the Republicans look so unattractive that Obama will have a fighting chance. That will be a very tall order considering the failure of the Obama administration and his negative job approval ratings.

                                                                                #66.1 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:38 PM EDT

                                                                                Ray W-

                                                                                do you listen to the debates?

                                                                                Bachman-"I didnt say the vaccination ....I just repeated what that woman said to me."

                                                                                Give us a break- what a bunch of losers.

                                                                                  #66.2 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:42 PM EDT

                                                                                  Seriously, Ray. Not even the Republican Party is happy with the Republican candidates. They don't need to be attacked, merely quoted. If the Republicans have the guts to come up with one slightly-right-of-moderate candidate that didn't kowtow to Tea Party ideology, Obama will be in trouble more serious than now. What's in the way? Not the left press, but the well-financed propaganda machine led by Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, etc. that has helped solidify the extreme right. They might deliver the election for Obama by losing the independents.

                                                                                    #66.3 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:46 PM EDT

                                                                                    paxil, have you looked at any of the polls lately. Bachman is down to 6% support in the latest Gallup poll. Keep telling everyone that they are losers. Meanwhile Obama's job approval is now at 36% in the lastest Gallup poll and almost 2/3 of Americans think he is doing a bad job. Show me one poll where Romney isn't at least 5 point ahead of the President. Even Chris Matthews says Obama can't win re-election without Florida. Romney is already poll 9 points ahead of Obama in Florida and that is without Rubio. States which Obama took in 2008 like Ohio, Michigan, Iowa, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Nevada, the President is already decidedly behind.

                                                                                      #66.4 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:50 PM EDT

                                                                                      Ray- I try to be a realist. Do I think Obama is "guaranteed" a win- no. Do I think he might lose- yes I do. My hope and inclination is when the electorate compare Obama to either Romney or Perry the choice will become clear and lead to a Obama win. I am doubtful in the Senate and hopeful that the dems will pick up seats in the house.

                                                                                        #66.5 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:53 PM EDT

                                                                                        Anyone who looks at polls right now and has studied history knows that at this time Obama's chances at re-election are similar to his job approval ratings. No President with a down economy and no recovery has won re-election in over 70 years. With no economic recovery and an economy on the verge of a double dip recession, there is a low chance of re-election. With redistricting and seats moving to the south(Texas, Georgia, NC, Alabama, and Florida), the Demcorats would need to gain 10-12 seats just to stay even. There will be 25 Democratic seats up for re-election in the Senate with only 11 GOP seats. With many of the Democratic seats in places such as Wisconsin, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina,Florida, Nebraska among other which have gone heavily to the GOP lately. With the Republicans needing 4 seats to gain the Senate, it is far more likely that the Republicans to take the Senate than the Democrats taking the House. Even Chris Matthews admitted this about a week ago. The numbers are just not on the side of the Democrats.

                                                                                          #66.6 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:27 PM EDT

                                                                                          Ray there is always aq first and the Republican field so weak- corporations are people too I am sure will help pacify the electorate. Every body loves corporations.

                                                                                          The Repug plan worked that is the SAD SAD part of this. Hopefully people will put the pieces together.

                                                                                          Also who the heck wants to elect a President who said they wanted to secede- cant wait tp see Obama debate Perry. If Romney gives him a problem Obama will eat his lunch.

                                                                                          Romney and Perry- dumb and dumber

                                                                                            #66.7 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:40 PM EDT

                                                                                            Obama can't even convince his own people. I don't think Obama will be eating anyone for lunch especially without a teleprompter. Remember, Obama has to defend a record of failure for 4 years. Remember, 75% of any incumbent re-election is about the record of the incumbent in office. Democrats want the election to be about what they think the Republican candidate might do because they have great trouble in defending the Obama record. This election will be about the Obama record. He has only two successes in office (bin Laden and Obamacare) with one being unpopular in the polls right now. With Obamacare going through the Supreme Court in the middle of the 2012 election, this does not offer a pretty picture for Democrats. As the Wall Street Journal said, the people have already made up their minds on Obama. It is whether they find one of the GOP candidates acceptable. That is not great, all the GOP candidate has to be is acceptable because job approval ratings are pointing out that the majority of Americans have already said that the idea of a second 4 years of Obama is not acceptable.

                                                                                              #66.8 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:51 PM EDT

                                                                                              ray- everything you wrote is your opinion. Time will tell what the electorate thinks.

                                                                                              The Wall street Journal- a Murdoch publication in my opinion is good for picking up dog droppings

                                                                                                #66.9 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:15 PM EDT

                                                                                                Are you telling me that after 3 years in office, the vast majority has not made up their minds on Obama. The job approval ratings are opinion but they are the opinion of the majority of American voters. Most of the polls agree and that can't be spun. No slick campaign speeches, slogans, or promises are going to change that. This election is about the results of the Obama administration not a slick slogan like "Hope and Change" No speeches from teleprompters can change the results of his first four years.

                                                                                                  #66.10 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:21 PM EDT
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                                                                                                  Rack this as another 'fluff' article designed to get the left fired up - notice that 'Feisty Redhead' was the first post again - what's with that? As the time goes by, and the situation for the President continues to worsen, it IS kind of amusing to see the rising panic from the posts of the 'progressives' (a euphemism for wild-eyed leftist 60's anarchist radical). The President, an engaging man with a glib tongue and NO experience said that his programs would fundamentally change America. It turns out that he will be right, if we don't stop him. The question not asked at the time was - but will the fundamental change be for the BETTER? The results so far answer that one pretty emphatically. NOVEMBER 2012 - stop the Obamunist nightmare!!

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                                                                                                  Reply#67 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:40 PM EDT

                                                                                                  Just remember, right wing Christians, that "a house divided against itself cannot stand." That's not a Lincoln quote, he got it from somewhere much more powerful. America divided against itself will fall. It did in 1860, and had to be pulled back together with the lives of 620,000 Americans. What will the cost be this time, if we even have the ability to put Humpty Dumpty back together at all?

                                                                                                  And just to make an obvious point to this particular demographic, if America is a shambles, will we be able to help Israel when the time comes?

                                                                                                    Reply#68 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:41 PM EDT

                                                                                                    There are Christians here? Funny, nobody sounded like one.

                                                                                                      #68.1 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:49 PM EDT

                                                                                                      Funny thing is that for 8 years during the Bush administration, we were told that it was patriotic to disagree with the President. Now we are told in order to be patriotic, we must agree with the President.

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                                                                                                      #68.2 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:40 PM EDT
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                                                                                                      You see what most Americans seem to fail to understand is that the US DEBT is OUR DEBT. ALL of OURS.

                                                                                                      Now think if your family budget looked like this. ( THIS IS BROKEN DOWN FROM THE REAL US DEBT PER AMERICAN FAMILY )

                                                                                                      Annual Family Income: { $21,737.00 }

                                                                                                      Annual Family Expense: { $38,188.00 }

                                                                                                      Annual credit card debt : { $16,451.00 }

                                                                                                      Budget Cut Savings : { $385.00 }

                                                                                                      Total Credit Card debt : { $142,000.00 }

                                                                                                      Now would you really run your family that way? Remember every dime we do not pay for is debt passed on to our children. Children that had nothing to do with the creation of the debt!

                                                                                                      If you can support this I hope you can sleep at night.

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                                                                                                      Reply#69 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:28 PM EDT

                                                                                                      The presidential candidates should be ask why deer poop looks like little pellets ,horse poop looks like apples & cow poop looks like pancakes , then maybe we won't end up with another president like Obama who doesn't know sh#t .

                                                                                                        Reply#70 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:41 PM EDT

                                                                                                        Test post

                                                                                                          Reply#71 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:54 PM EDT

                                                                                                          Obama still doesn’t get it. He said today AGAIN that he did everything people wanted, but they just didn’t know it. He said if he had sold the ideas like ObamaCare better, the people would have loved him for it. Translation: He did not make enough speeches. LOL

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                                                                                                          Reply#72 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:02 PM EDT

                                                                                                          I like the Titanic analogy, Beavis and Biden steered us into the iceberg.

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                                                                                                          Reply#73 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:05 PM EDT

                                                                                                          You tell the right to turn off Fox and turn on someone else. Who is watching someone else? The latest Neilsen ratings say the top 13 programs on Cable News are all Fox. Looks like not only the right is watching Fox. None of the other networks are close to believable and the ratings are showing it.

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                                                                                                          Reply#74 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:14 PM EDT

                                                                                                          I guess any dufus can spew propoganda. Must be drinking something hallucnegenic.

                                                                                                            Reply#75 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:19 PM EDT
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                                                                                                            highlighted the Republican presidential debate last week, when a handful of audience members booed a gay soldier from Iraq after he posed a question about the repeal of the military’s "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy.

                                                                                                            “Not one person on that platform, not one candidate was willing to say, ‘Don’t do that. It’s inappropriate to boo someone who’s risking his life for our country, who’s serving our country honorably.'"

                                                                                                            Tiatanic struggle? It's possible-however there are others who see it more like going d own like the Titanic that didn't aviod theicebergs because do one was paying attention. And it seems that second way right noow. Obman's ratings are on themid-40's not the 60%; more pople say the countryis onthe wrong direction bya 2-1 margin.

                                                                                                            The only saving grace is Congress has aneven lower rating-12%-and there a debate now if that is reallytoo high and generous.

                                                                                                            President Obma is no Teddy Roosevelt or even Franklin Roosevetl-both releished good fight and were shy about it. Presidnet Kumbaya is gun shy-and not just about guns eithere. From signingthe Patriot act with he opposed for 4 more years to extening theBushtax cuts-we have to wonder if Obama shoud throw his hat inthe ring as a republican.

                                                                                                            After all who stood up for the bush tax cuts against liberal? Who fired teacher in Rhode ilsand violating union contracts? Who has reined in procesution against boththebig banks and Bush war crimes trilas?

                                                                                                            There is no Repblican inthe field todaythat can match those credentials. Who went aftrer Bin Laden-and didn't let the nicities of diplamcy get in the way of wasting the guy? Dirty Harry would be proud of ourt man Barack. Who shook up the car companies and truned them aroud-saving Chevy and Caddliac for another generation? Think about it-a Democrat saving incons of Republicanism! And don't forget Diah shore cloth coatism either...If there is one man who saved theicons of middle america -that's Barack Obama.

                                                                                                            Yes Barak should file in the Florida priamry. Who else will say you don't have to put your money insome Chilean bank accout that Herman Cain wants. Who is just about as anti union as Scott walker. Who promised to "walk the picket line " in wisconsin then didnt. Who has let Arne Ducan run roughshod over unions and re-directed grants from liberalstate like Minnesota to conservative Deep south ones.

                                                                                                            Who stopped smog regulations dead in their tracks? It wasn't rick Perry-that's for sure.

                                                                                                            So let's ask Mr Axelrod and interesting question--just what is this "Tiantic struggle "all about? It sound to me like the republican have already won. How else cainn you explain Wall Street Bounses of $144 Billion dollars? How else can youexplain coroprate balance sheets at $2.4 Triillon dollaars. How can you explain back with $2.1 Trillion in excess reserves? How can you explain 12,000 people with secret swiss bank accounts reporting themto the IRS and no one gets punished-or even called out to account for their sins?

                                                                                                            If that's not a Republican admisntration I don't know wha tIS!

                                                                                                              Reply#77 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:37 PM EDT

                                                                                                              The "Titanic Struggle" is an apt analogy for the Democrats. They are polishing the brass on a sinking ship at this point.

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                                                                                                              #77.1 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:42 PM EDT
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                                                                                                              As long as the "Great Mistake of 08" LOSES, who cares how hard O-BUNGLE has to work to LOSE. And as long as the "FAILURE-in-Chief" never stays another minute in the White House, it will be worth it. NEVER AGAIN-Hussein!

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                                                                                                              Reply#78 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:46 PM EDT

                                                                                                              How can the liberals still blame Bush when the Messiah took

                                                                                                              the job claiming he would fix everything?

                                                                                                              You people post some funny stuff here.

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                                                                                                              Reply#79 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:04 PM EDT

                                                                                                              The original Titanic sunk after hitting an iceberg. Since man has melted all the icebergs, this Titanic will keep going until it runs aground. A landslide would be a better metaphor.

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                                                                                                              Reply#80 - Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:08 PM EDT
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