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Subscribe to RSSMANCHESTER, NH -- President Obama's former senior adviser and campaign strategist David Axelrod acknowledged this morning that the 2012 presidential election will be an uphill battle for the incumbent president facing a struggling economy and high unemployment.
"This is going to be a titanic struggle," Axelrod told about 200 people at a Politics & Eggs breakfast at New Hampshire Institute of Politics at St. Anselm College. "But I firmly believe we are on the right side of the struggle."
"In 2008, we had the wind at our backs," Axelrod admitted. "Now, we don't have the wind at our back. We have the wind in our faces, because the American people have the wind in their faces."
Axelrod blamed Republicans lawmakers in Washington for taking partisan lines and preventing Obama from accomplishing major initiatives.
"We honestly thought when we got to Washington, we'd get some cooperation from folks across the aisle," he said.
He then called the current field of GOP presidential candidates “the most ideological, partisan group of Republicans in my lifetime."
Axelrod specifically highlighted the Republican presidential debate last week, when a handful of audience members booed a gay soldier from Iraq after he posed a question about the repeal of the military’s "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy.
“Not one person on that platform, not one candidate was willing to say, ‘Don’t do that. It’s inappropriate to boo someone who’s risking his life for our country, who’s serving our country honorably.'"
As for Obama's chances against current Republican front-runners Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, Axelrod forecasted a "contest between economic visions and values."
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Axlerod is right on the money with that quote!
We have mega-corporations funneling millions of dollars into secret C-Pacs with no repercussions attempting to BUY our democracy!
Then there's Charles Koch notorious quote caught on tape that; 'This will be the mother of all wars' & comparing President Obama to Sadam Hussien...
Let the tea baggers continue to rearrange the deck chairs, the rest of us say; BRING IT!
Fired UP & READY to go!
Get it all out old gal - all the booegymen.
Obama is going to lose, but it has only to do with his own "accomplishments" and not with what the evil Kocks, Wlaker, Rove or NOJO have done.
He owns this economy. Just ask Debbie Downer (DWS). The economy is horrible and he has done nothing to make it better.
So libbies what has Obama done since his last totally awesome speech to fix the jobs issue?
Shouldn't he be meeting with Peolsi. Reid, the CBC the progressive caucus? Yet he has not. Instead he is campaigning.
I have an idea - instead of running for the job, how about say he actually does it?
Novel and new, right?
It is way too soon to tell how much of a struggle this election will be, but even if it were destined to be a "cakewalk" I would expect Axelrod (or any other political operative in his position) to say something like what was said above.
It's called the expectation game. Claiming the fight will be epic helps bring the voters into the conflict; it helps raise money; it helps get people off the couch and into their local campaign offices.
Personally, even though the economy stinks, I think Obama will win fairly easily. The Republicans have lost both their minds and their message. They cheer for death and boo active duty military servicemen who are in field. None of the Republicans candidates can stand up to Rush Limbaugh and those like him; a shortcoming which has led the GOP as a whole way off center.
In short: The Republicans are revolting. And I mean that in more ways than one.
Poor Obama, having to deal with an unified opposition is tough.
Good thing Churchill, FDR, Reagan, Clinton, the Bushes, et.al. did have any such problem.
Naw, problem for Obama is presidentin' is hard, particularly when you have absolutely no idea what you are doing.
Am I the only one who thinks that "titanic" may have been an unfortunate choice of words?
Nope, guess not. Great minds ...
Does anyone else find it ironic (and Hillaryous!!!) that the Axe used the name of an "unsinkable" ship that ran into an iceberg and sank on its very first trip to describe Barry's re-election??
S.S. Barry Obama
Nisl, good points.
I also think it is a struggle for America's future. Will we continue to decline because we have a party that does not believe in government except to fight wars or will we again recognize that it requires both a strong government and a strong private industry to meet the challenges of the future? Will we continue to be so divided that we no longer are a Nation united for a common purpose? Will partisan politics prevent Congress from governing responsibly? We cannot continue to not invest in America's future. We cannot continue to fight ideological battles instead of finding the middle through compromise to solve our problems and provide for the future of our children and grandchildren.
Nope, guess not. Great minds ...
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Thanks AM!!!!
I swear your post was not there when I started mine.
LMAO!!!!
Oh, I don't know Jody - perhaps we will continue to decline because we borrow $.45 of every dollar we spend.
Or that we add $4 billion in new debt each and every day.
Or that the government wastes 1/2 of every dollar they get.
So how about this compromise Jody - the government stops the waste before it asks us for any more money. Seem fair?
Or do you advocate continuing to give money to an entity that admits to such blatant and reckless waste?
Also Jody is it your position that all of the above - the debt and the waste comes just from one party? Or perhaps when you make such ridiculous statements it is you who are adding to the divisiveness?
Oh well, at least you are not talking about business expenses or taxes, so good job on that.
Oh and Jody - what is Obama doing about getting his jobs bill passed? Anything at all?
Axlerod just gave Rush Limbaugh a whole day's worth of material with one statement.
"But I firmly believe we are on the right side of the struggle."
He must picture the Administration as the Iceberg, then, I guess.
What a maroon.
Yeah, no, I'm sure it was a noun BEFORE it was an adjective and not the other way around.
Well Perry has a battle of his own:
ttp://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-texas-refineries-may-back-135m-112526627.html
Romney isn't clinching the deal either and so it goes.....
The article uses titanic with a small "t". Look up the defintion of the word.
titanic: Having great stature or enormous strength; huge or colossal
Which is why the ship was given that name. The ship is not mentioned until the third tier of Webster's definition. And the ship is Titanic spelled with a capital "T".
He is not going to lose to any of the current republican candidates.
Holly crap Don't Carry - are you saying the primary will continue?
Get out!
Gosh cause it seems like just yesterday that Obama put old Hillary down in their primary in like a week.
Or was it two weeks Don't?
In any event, too bad you libbies picked so poorly, eh?
What do you expect after 33 months in office with a dismal record on the economy? Obama is a lesson on what not to do, to turn an economy around. Obama will spend the next 14 months "talking" his way out of all his failures. Obama took office and claimed he was going to cut the deficit in half and "fix" the economy. Well now, Obama has accomplished the exact opposite. The national debt is higher, not lower. The economy is weak, not strong. Obama has every excuse in the book and then some. Leaders accept responsibility, losers make excuses. Get ready for 14 months of excuses from this President. Time for real change.
OMG -- Thanks for posting this.
What I want to know is how giving refineries a big tax refund on pollution control equipment does any such thing. Did Perry attract refineries from elsewhere to come to Texas, and if so, from where?
That's ridiculous.
This is nothing more than pure corporate cronyism, and at the expense of little children.
This isn't good business. It's just plain disgusting.
Jody, Iowa obviously drew the short stick on Liberal Island and she's stuck with having to defend Obama at every turn. Doing so requires using the lofty rhetoric of talking about "struggles", blaming others, and talking of "Common purpose", and compromise. Obama isn't interested in compromise though. He's interested in chanting "Pass this bill!"
The trouble as always with Obama is his record of failure and his impossible struggle to try and remain blameless. There won't be any words about the economy coming Short Stick Jody. It doesn't fit the narrative.
Well, maybe. But when Axelrod said it, could you tell whether he capitalized the word or not?
;-)
You guys really going with the "original" meaning of titanic?
Cause, yeah, that's probably what everybody else thinks of when they hear the word.
Hence the irony. (maybe you should look-up THAT word ;-)
Awww... too bad Spanky, it appears the ranks are not happy with the candidates currently on stage where you been? Some conservatives may consider you a liberal and all with all that wine drinking so careful who you call libbies. I respect everyone's right to an opinion, including liberals...but carry on buddy you are pretty amusing.
Easy AM - fielden is a big brained libbie, so naturally he just KNOWS.
So fielden, other than your own pure speculation, you got any other support for your position about the size of the "T?"
Or are you relying on the intelligence or interpretation Jo Ling?
Say you even think Jo Ling was present when "Axe" made his comments?
Thanks, and will do Don't.
Me,I never care what other people think about me.
So glad you've finally admitted that all libbies have big brains, Spanky.
Fielden probably gets his speculation from the context and the syntax of the sentence. He's no doubt right about what Axelrod meant, but SoTB is no doubt right about it being ironic.
So everyone wins. Gotta love that. ;-)
That idea will go nowhere on Liberal Island. That's the shell game Wimpy Obama and Wimpy Reid are playing, "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today".
The problem is that the pols spend too much money. The solution to a Liberal is to send them more money.
Yep. As spelled out in both the headline and body of the article. And in keeping with the context. Reading the quote and interpreting it as referring to the ship doesn't make sense.
Irony notwithstanding.
so, now bam bam is the underdog.
gotta love the spin.
whats he got to worry about. the majority of the lemmings can be taken for granted. people incapable of thinking independently always are. besides those usual idiots, he can count on all govt employees, the 45% that pay no fed income taxes. anyone remaining will either be threatened by some thug, or their votes will be canceled out thru fraud.
dont worry captain bam bam, your USS Destroy America will continue sailing us straight to the end of the Republic.
So glad you've finally admitted that all libbies have big brains, Spanky.
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AM: You might want to ask some of the lefty liberal wordsmith's to post the deinition of "sarcasm".
Folks, there's "The Titanic" (noun, name of a big ship, movie with Leo).
Then there's a centuries' old word meaning very large, "titanic".
If we checked out every adjective used for an event in history ~ we'd get even less done.
Well felden, I guess once you get use to keeping your head in the sand and out of reality it becomes your comfort zone.
At least you're consistent.
Cause, I am sure most people go straight to the literal meaning of the word rather than the iconic ship. One of the biggest movie blockbusters not withstanding.
Sure they do.
i can see him trampling over "rich" women and children to save himself now.
So fielden... you are ASSUMING that your liberal friends over at FR got the quote EXACTLY CORRECT?
Did they the notes from which Schmaxlrod was speaking? Did they see HOW he spelled it? OR... did they just put their slant on it when they wrapped it in quotes?
You can take it ANY way you want to... but MOST people out there reading the story (and I am sure all who heard him speak) took it the way he meant it.
Can we agree that we're recovering from a great recession. And globally? Phew, thanks.
Can we agree that sweet-nothing is being done actually done to put people back to work, except by President Obama & those working around the clock to forward and pass the American Jobs Act.
Forget the adjectival debates;
Go on www.whitehouse.gov and check out for yourself the big interactive info on the AJA which goes into great detail and you probably can ask questions, look back at questions etc.
And for the sake of all Americans, let's put millions back to work.
PASS THE AMERICAN JOBS ACT, and quit warbling about adjectives for cryin' out loud.
Sorry, Navy.
No recovery.
Obama is campaigning and fund raising..
Things are getting worse.
Guess we don't agree.
Guess you are wearing your Negative-Only, Search & Destroy Tunnel Vision Eye Glasses again.
Flaky Feisty states: We have mega-corporations funneling millions of dollars into secret C-Pacs with no repercussions attempting to BUY our democracy!
Really? What proof do you have to support this statement? And if such did exist and they were a secret, how are you privy to the information?
Then the redhead step-child says: Let the tea baggers continue to rearrange the deck chairs, the rest of us say; BRING IT!
You can count on the Tea Party, independents, republicans and many democrats voting out the current crop of democrats that can't do anything to help the nation. Unemployment has risen, the debt has risen, the dems lend money to a green group for solar power that goes belly up; etc.etc.etc. You can sit there spouting off about how great the dems are, but the majority of Americans know that donkeys are best suited for plowing fields, not governing people.
Axelrod is absolutely right and I will go one even further. The 2012 political race is a battle for the very soul of America.
If the GOP/TP/LDS actually pull off an upset and win the White House they will set this country on a course to it's ultimate damnation and destruction. That's not hyperbole, I am as serious as a heart attack. They will put us on a rocket-sled roaring down and to the right so hard and so fast we will not be able to bring this country back to the middle, where it belongs.
If, on the other hand, the President is re-elected, as I believe he will be, AND we are able to send some moderates to Congress who are willing to work for the American people and not just spout talking points and rhetoric, then I believe we can finally dig our way out of this hole and put the nightmare that was the previous administration behind us.
But we're all going to have to work together and elect GOP and Democrat moderates. Not radical nuts.
You cannot imagine what's at stake.
Obama/Biden 2012
Beats the rose-colored ones you Libs wear when it comes to judging your Obama.
Too funny. Now the Libs are getting all biblical on losing next year.
Ehh, yeah it is.
You really do make this too easy little man...
And before you open your big nastymouth about the source, let me remind you it's best to keep it shut and be thought a fool then open it and remove ALL doubt! ;o)
Really?! Are you saying that Spanky didn't mean it?
Oh, my. I'm SO disappointed. ;-)
And before you open your big nastymouth about the source, let me remind you it's best to keep it shut and be thought a fool then open it and remove ALL doubt! ;o)
You mean the way you do with every post?
The things you just mentioned are hardly SECRET. You and other donkey supporters are simply angry that the GOP is raising a lot of money....wah, wah, wha................
Pass the popcorn please!!!!!!
Then why did you ask?
Your slip is showing...
Awww look at that... the weekend warrior is reduced to; 'I know you are BUT what am I'! LMAO!
Go back to playing with your G.I. Joe & Ken dolls & leave politics to the grown ups! ;o)
I'll take some of that *popcorn* thanks!
We can all see a 'rosier' future for Americans - and not just the Rove operatives - when we create jobs.
Everyone knows that Big Business is making the most profits ever in US History.
Koch 40% up this year. And they ain't hiring. They've fired thousands.
Big Money not hiring.
American Jobs Act will put millions of Americans back to work: construction folks of all kinds, police, firefighters, teachers and first responders. Back to work.
PASS THE AMERICAN JOBS ACT!
The Huffington Post is not a reliable source for the truth. It is a "feel good" source for liberals and the golden goose for Adriana Huffington.
Poor Feisty..............wallowing in the very distinct possibility that her savior will be looking for other work in 2012 has reduced her statements like this: Go back to playing with your G.I. Joe & Ken dolls & leave politics to the grown ups! ;o)
Poor ol' girl. Once again you as all other liberals simply want to dish it out but can't take it.
If the time ever comes that you grow up and you have the ability to look at the nation as it truly exists (that means you will have to take off the rose colored glasses you must be wearing), perhaps you will want to jump on the bandwagon that will send the mules back to the south fourty to plow. They have continued to ruin the nation and America won't allow further damage at their hands.
Ahh - back to attacking the source eh - 'Tony Take MY word for it'? *wink wink*
Damn those pesky quotes and all... lol
I do love me some facts & the truth - they make me all warm & fuzzy...
skip,
Undoubtedly you are an Obama supporter who believes the rhetoric that the left spins. You spew hyperbole, Sir, and on that I am as serious as a heart attack.
If Mr. Obama would just be the President instead of campaigning for it, he would win easily. But he has failed to do the one thing that would guarantee his re-election.
It is not these things:
Nope. It is none of those things. All he had to do was decrease unemployment from the 8-10% during his term down to 7% or lower and he could have run on progress. But that would have required him to be business friendly, to not pass healthcare reform and the doubt that comes from it, to not pass a thousand (metaphor) regulations that make it difficult to run a business, not threatening American's with capital at every turn, not attacking business for following the very rules Government has given them, and casting doubt on everything that business does.
No point in arguing with a zealot....I will stop.
Yeah, like Obama doesn't take money from businesses? Stop making it seem like he is so rightous when they all do the same thing. He has done it in the past and continues to do it. Oh yeah, by the way, has anyone noticed that investors in a solar company that recently got a big government loan and recently went under donated over $50,000 (if you can't do the research yourself to find it, don't ask me to do it for you since it was in an article posted on this very website). Thought Obama was only taking $100 contributions from indivdiauls, or is there yet another exception we didn't know about?
Axelrod blamed Republicans lawmakers in Washington for taking partisan lines and preventing Obama from accomplishing major initiatives.
"We honestly thought when we got to Washington, we'd get some cooperation from folks across the aisle," he said.
What bull crap. obama owned the congress and senate for 2 out of the 3 yrs he has been in office. They passed anything he wanted. If it were not for the opposition across the aisle this passed year, heaven knows how many more trillions of dollars obama would have blown.
Navy,
If you want to pass the American Jobs Act you need 2 things:
1. Someone to actually write it.
2. Harry Reid to actually schedule it for a vote.
Last I heard he "Had a few other things to get to" and would get to it sometime in November.
Think it will include the Buffett law?
You are barking up the wrong tree my friend.
The people who think Obama will win easily, have you seen the polls? You do know that 8-10 states will determine this election? Currently, whether its Romney/Christie/Perry, Obama is so far behind in Florida, NC and losing by 6-10 points in Virginia and Ohio. He is down but close in all the other swing states so how does this translate into an easy win. Unless the economy shows some sign or recovery and we all know that 3 years of his fiscal policies havent done anything yet but there is a year to go, this could be no different than a full scale rebellion similar to 2010 and Weiner's seat in NY. I realize all of you that have your progressive minds made up and think that the GOP slate is nuts, you do realize that there are an equal number of voters who think that Obama is truly off his rocker. That leaves the huge swing votes and independents who have already at this point left Obama and any of the GOP candidates will start pandering to them once they win the nomination. So all of your mudslinging will be meaningless to these voters who if disenfranchised with Obama will hear what they want to and vote for the candidate who in their minds will turn it around. Idealogues on both sides of the aisle like yourselves and the religious right never determine the outcome of the election.
@Spanky-,
Bush F-in up this economy. Bush had no ideal what he was doing. 46.1 Million people in poverty - like President Obama put them there. This crap happen over decades of FAIL conservative theories. Give to the rich and the poor will prosper, like that worked out well. The rich income grew over the last 30 years by over 400% while middle class wages feel over the same period by 1.5%.
But according to you we should not help a F-in soul, We should continue the Failed tax cuts to the rich, We should continue to let wall street governor itself, We should continue to give the richest oil corporations in the world MORE of hard working tax payers dollars.
The Koch brothers is going the run the biggest advertising campaign in the history but a sum of 550 Million dollars. Which of course call President Obama some of the vial and racist things you continue to repeat as if it's true. These are the same people who compare President Obama to Saddam. How racist and deplorable is that? My guess would would be very deplorable.
You want to end Social Security ask your grandmother would that be OK with her.
Here's the final note on which version of "titanic" it is: Titanic is a noun, not an adjective. The word used in this sentence was an adjective, which while some people on here apparently are not aware of it, IS the more common usage (hence it being the first definition in the dictionary). The only way Titanic battle would make any sense at all was if it was an actual battle against the Titanic.
Damn people, it's your native language--have some freaking respect for it.
Navy would probably refer you to the following:
Actual eyeballs not included:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/08/fact-sheet-american-jobs-act
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/09/09/women-and-american-jobs-act
Rational American
Click "Ignore"
But before you go, let me make an observation. You no doubt believe what you are saying. You are an American, just like me. Born and raised in this great country and you love your country as do I.
Sadly, you have been brain-washed. Twenty-five years of hate radio and FOX news have convinced you that black is white, wrong is right, and the GOP is the only true path to freedom. You are misguided and misinformed.
If you were a Christian I would point out how un-Christian the GOP/TP/LDS is. But you won't care, because you are not a true believer. Neither am I. If you were semi-rational I would try to persuade you to see that there is actually a forest behind all those trees in the foreground. I would try to help open your eyes to the fact that the philosophy you so slavishly follow is actually the cause of all the misery and frustration that you express.
But you are not able to comprehend what I am saying to you. You've heard the word from Rush, you've seen the reports on the "fair and balanced" news and you think you know the truth. Sadly, you don't.
So rave on, my fellow American. It is your right under the constitution you and I both support. But please realize that Shakespeare, over 500 years ago, already had your number.
"Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing."
Wake up and smell the coffee my friend. Be a part of the solution, not the problem.
Obama/Biden 2012
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
You need to follow your own advice once in awhile...Just saying!
Feisty, there was no attack. Just a fact. The Huffington Post is written by liberals with a liberal slant for liberals. That is not an attack, it is a statement of fact. Also a fact it was Adriana's golden goose. I was looking forward to her "redistrubution" of her new wealth.
If you like facts and the truth. How about this? The economy is still weak even after 33 months of the Obama administration's attempts to improve the economy. These attempts failed. Unemployment is over 9%, this after an almost trillion dollar "stimulus" plan. The three things that are higher since Obama took office are the national debt, healthcare costs and gold prices.
I voted for hope and change. Going to vote for it again until I "F"ing get it!
Come on Navy - we are in a recession, even Soros admits to it.
I know, "recovery Summer" was sweet and all, but that was 2009, it's 2011 and we are in far worse shape.
Libbies are so funny, specially when they can't admit to the obvious.
Thanks Navy.
How many times do WE have to tell you 'Take My Word for it Tony' *wink wink* - you wouldn't recognize a fact if it bit you on your wrinkly butt! ;o)
Now run along and find someone else to play your circular argument game with - I'm NOT interested and you're dismissed!
"This is going to be a titanic struggle,"
Probably a good analogy. The REAL Titanic sank too.
Solutions, most conservatives feel its the progressive policies like creating generational welfare through free welfare without work, low income housing clusters, unemployment benefits not tied to real job training, failure to address the education gap through reforms to the education system, government subsidies for failed business models, the War on Poverty etc that did nothing but make poverty worse. But lets put poverty in perspective as defined by our government. You realize those statistics you cite fail to include government welfare in the recipients income in determining how impoverished a person is. So in our country the so called average impoverished home has a car, air conditioning, two color televisions, cable or satellite tv, DVD player, Xbox, several pairs of Nike high top shoes at $200 dollars a pop. In addition, in our country the average poor persons place of residence is bigger than the average middle to upper middle class residence in Europe. We have spent $16 trillion on the War on Poverty with progressive programs--do you think its gotten better? We spend $900 billion on 70 means tested welfare programs currently on an annual basis. Prior to Obamas time, you progressives love to state the rich have gotten richer but do you realize the poor have gotten richer faster? If you look at the bottom 20% of the economic ladder, within 16 years only 5% remain in the bottom 20% and 75% make their way up the ladder to the top 2 quintiles. Whats great about our system is the ability to move up when you create incentives for personal accountability and responsibility but when you create a nanny state and dependency like the quasi socialist countries in Europe, you get malaise and stagnation. Obama's naive understanding of economic behavior is what is hurting his country and why his policies will continue to fail.
Hey Tony C, who'd you cast your vote for in 2008?
I agree with Axelrod 100%. Obama grossly underestimated his political instincts and ability and is going to get pounded in 2012. Axelrod is a horrible advisor, but understands Obama's chances are slim and none. Slim just left town.
Who would have thought that the party of "Constitutionalists" would try to undo the will of the people who voted overwhelmingly for the Mr. Obama and the ideas he presented to help turn this country around from the Bush years? From day one they have been hellbent on denying him (and country) any success in order to "deny' him 2nd term.
Who would have thought that the party of "Christian and family values" would publically and politically espouse and spew so much personal and polical Hate for this Potus on the national and international stage? (cheering death of uninsured, booing gay soldier, etc..)
Who would have thought the so called "true patriots" would take the country "hostage" and kill economic recovery on any level for political power?
Now we know who we are really dealing with, what their #1 priority is, and what lengths they will go to get it. Thanks at least for removing all doubt to Moderates like myself.
I am voting straight Democrat ticket 2012!
Paris, you obviously arent a moderate or you wouldnt be voting straight democrat and I would doubt you have ever voted GOP. Do you remember the hate and disgusting things said about Bush? Do you remember the anti war protests? The anarchists who went from city to city rioting? Do you remember the democratic machine wanting to make sure that Bush was a one term president because they couldnt stand his conservative social values? I dont agree with Bush but people who passionately believe in a position do want the politician thats not on their side out of office as quickly as possible--Thats politics. Nobody is denying Obama a second term, most of us dont believe his policies will help turn this country around and we in fact think they will make it worse. We have been proven correctly so far but there is time left for us to be wrong. The voters will be able to choose for themselves dont act like voters are stupid.
All this absurd bickering about "titanic," and then voiceontheleft assumes the mantle of linguist and REALLY gets things wrong.
Consult the Oxford English Dictionary (mine is the 2004 reprint of the 2nd edition, compact), p. 2069 - first, "Titan," the principal meaning is that of the name of the Greek god, older brother of Kronos, and progenitor of the race of Titans. "Titanic" follows, as an ADJECTIVE - which any etymologist can recognize simply from the suffix '-ic," always forming an ajective with the meaning of "having the quality of." And so the OED goes on to explain, observing that the word means having the quality of Titasi, or more generally gigantic, colossal.
OK, there's the definitive answer. Someone owes me a Guiness.
And I owe the many fine teachers from elementary through university a debt of thanks for their excellent instruction.
Uh, John. I SAID it was an adjective. The word "titanic" is an adjective. The word "Titanic" as in the name of the ship, is a noun. A proper noun to be exact. I then pointed out that the sentence itself showed the word being used as an adjective, therefore ruling out the noun usage of it. I teach this for a living.
voice,
.........................any way you want to say TITANIC is ok:
Pass the American Jobs Act!!
Put millions of Americans back to work!!
Help small businesses put millions of americans back to work!!
Put our veterans back to work, our teachers back to work, our construction workers back to work!!
Put our police back to work, our firefighters back to work, our first responders back to work!!
Tell Congress to put us back to work!!!
John A -- Guiness for you, a Stella for me... now lets toast to teachers everywhere! ; ) Cheers!! I really do need a beer now spent too much time reading the blogs today.
Kirk, you "obviously" don't know me or my voting record. So you have assumed things about me from my one post that are not accurate. For the record...yes, I have voted GOP, as well as have many conservative positions. Yes, I do remember the hateful and personal things said about Bush. Did not like it then or now. My position, is that we disrespect the Office of the Presidency and diminish our country's view on the international scale when we attack our sitting Potus' in such public and demeaning ways. So contrary to your judgmenet about me, I do not appreciate that attack rhetoric on either side of the isle.
Regarding your comment "nobody is denying Obama a second term", you have obviously not heard this spoken directly from the mouth of Mitch McConnell in Nov '10 as he addressed his party and constitutuents: "Our TOP PRIORITY over the next 2 years will be do deny Mr. Obama a second term". So Kirk, there you have it...and it appears they will do anything to succeed.
From the moment, Mr. Obama was sworn in, the GOP/TP has denied, obstructed and stalled anything that he has done. Therefore this "failed policy" argument is bogus and disengenuous at best. You can't have it both ways. The GOP has obstructed his policies, to ensure that they fail or have no impact towards recovery, then claim "they have failed' so we want him out. Bottlomline: GOP/TP are affecting their desired outcome regarding his policies (failure) to insure success of their #1 Priority (denial of second term).
Therefore, imho, GOP has not been 'proven' right so far. If the GOP/TP would have given the will of the people a chance to see the implementation of some ideas and policies and worked with the President for the benefit of the country, then we would have an opportunity to make a fair assessment. Furthermore, Kirk, as a Christian, I am most disgusted that the GOP/TP which claims to represent "moral christian values" has demonstrated so much hate, divisiveness, and lack of care for the Potus, the average Americans and country as a whole over these last 3 years in a time when people are suffering still from the recession began in Bush term. Their behavior and demonstration of leadership has not lived up to the standard that they say they represent and has pushed many people away (the 'they did it first" so "we can do it too" is not representative). I consider voting straight ticket, because I am tired of the political posturing between the branches of govenment and the gridlock that helps no one and hurts everyone! Again, my opinion, hope you can respect that even if you don't agree.
I don't usually post just to pat someone on the back, but great post, Paris. Thank you.
If Dems were smart, had any brains whatsoever, they would demand someone challenge Obama for the nomination. Obama has zero chance of winning. He is just as bad or worse than Jimmy Carter. Fortunately for us Republicans, Dems are not smart.
All the folks that are busy trying to ignore that the GOP has blocked any actions to move this country forward need a gut check. In his 2and a half years President Obama has tried and tried but continually meet with No. Even his efforts to compromise are met wit No Look at the state that have republican governors everything that benefits the people is being taken away and in some cases their rights as citizens too. Yet out of anger many will vote more of them in and the country will collapse under the power of No
You're right U need 2 think. GOP has said NO to increasing deficits, NO to Obamacare (which democrat controlled CBO said would cost much more than Obama claimed,) NO to raising taxes in an economy that can't support it...
Problem is Obama CANNOT LEAD. Reagan has a democrat Congress. Clinton had a Republican Congress. Obama has a split congress. Why is it that Reagan and Clinton got things done and THIS GUY CAN'T???
Fiesty, can't handle the facts can you? Find it difficult to dispute the poor results from a weak President? You sure can cut and paste with the best of them. You not being interested in the truth is no surprise. Dismissed huh. Great cop out. LOL.
Kumar, you are right, Reagan's Democratic congress was not hellbent on Day ONE to obstruct everything he said and did, but showed him a measure of respect. Clinton's Rep congress was not hellbent from Day ONE to obstruct everything (did not try impeachment until later :) )....So wonder what could it be that made THIS Congress and THESE Reps absolutely Hate THIS Potus before he could get sworn in good? before the leadership or failed policies argument? Wonder what else could possibly be the difference between Mr. Obama and Reagan, Clinton and the other 41 Potus's before him?? hmmmmm, still wondering.....
How many times can someone get something wrong yet still get their name published and expect people to believe their inane waffle.. You got it wrong again, Dunderhead.
Oh lordy, anna molly thinks that obama has to go as well.
OMG = Obama Must Go!
Go for it anna.
Must be all that campaigning that obama is doing rather than the governing he should be doing.
Paris, I apologize if I offended you but there are differences of opinion and philosophy that are much greater and polarizing that past history. Obama is certainly moderate on some issues but certainly not fiscal policies. Because the GOP obstructs as you call because they whole heartedly disagree with his policies is not obstruction but disagreement. No different than the democrats refusing to address tort reform, education reform, entitlement reform just to name a few. Obama has had many victories and chances to prove out his policies such as Obamacare, the stimulus and the myriad of Czar led objectives including taking over the car business, healthcare and to some extent financial regulations. He also has led a significant green policy including radical anti job views in the EPA. None of it has worked and has only made things worse. You cant say he hasnt had plenty of opportunity to put forth his objectives. The fact that so many people are fiscal conservatives and fundamentally object to his big government policies is what many of us want regardless of party politics. I didnt like it with Bush and dont like it with him. As a Christian I would think you would be upset that social policy including welfare payments of all types are up 80% under Obama with no success. At some point, creating a nanny state just doesnt work. We have more generational welfare and entitlement at all levels including corporations than ever before. So many of us object fundamentally to his social equality leveling the playing field punish the successful anti personal responsibility and accountability policies that there is no more compromise. We need hope and change of a different type.
[...we are in a recession, even Soros admits to it.]
...and the part that you forgot to add (or conveniently left out) is that George Soros blamed it on the GOP...but you knew that...
Ahh...ignorance is bliss, ain't it "counselor"?
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Fiesty... I find it very telling you criticize the GOP PAC's yet fail to mention anything about Priorities USA or Majority PAC. Nor do you mention the untold millions in donations the Dems routinely get from the unions. I also find it amusing you get all upset about someone criticizing your source of information since it is from a liberal leaning site, yet you do it daily if anyone should dare cite Fox News, the Heritage Foundation, etc. Do you ever have anything meaningful to say or do you simply get a kick out of coming on FR daily to insult the other side?
Skip Nicholson... Wow, so you don't agree with what Rational AmeriCAN stated so you are going to click to ignore him. It's clear by the rant following that you can't handle the fact that some people in this country will disagree with you. So when they do, they all must be idiots and unable to develop and informed opinion for themselves so they are not worth your time and should be ignored. Pretty typical liberal elitism in my opinion.
Kirk...you beat me to posting about the poverty statistics in this country. It is down right shameful in my opinion the amount of handouts we give to some people regardless of what they have. I noticed not a single liberal on this thread decided to even acknowledge some of these statistics. Yet, to the left, these stats won't matter. What matters to them is that some people are just more fortunate than others and some work harder than others to get more in life. The the left, this just isn't fair and until the lowest rung within our society has the same as the highest rung, the left will continue to push for equality of wealth. To a liberal it doesn't matter that the guy making a million dollars a year may have worked his way up from the bottom putting himself through school while working and sacraficing having fun in his younger years to be better off later in life. I see this mentality time and again with some of the people I grew up with. One of my best friends since childhood stopped talking to me bacaue I disagreed with him on the fact that he shouldn't get the amount of public assistance he receives. He recieves foods stamps and lives in a small apartment but has a cable package with all the movie and pay channels, has an x-box, play station, nintendo, 62" LED tv, surround sound system, blue ray player, state of the art laptop, etc. Yet, he gets food stamps because he doesn't make much at his $9/hr job. He dropped out of high school and is content with what he has but was always asking me for money and I finally stopped giving it to him. On the other hand, I had to pay my way through school and have paid out of pocket for two master's to get to the level of lifestyle I want. So, why should I have to pay more in taxes to support people like him!? It's pathetic the entitlement mentality that a large portion of this country has developed. I can tell, like myself, you are sick of this type of bs.
Well, of course, some of us knew all this right from the start, but since I owe you one anyway, I'll buy. ;-)
Paris:
[Wonder what else could possibly be the difference between Mr. Obama and Reagan, Clinton and the other 41 Potus's before him?? hmmmmm, still wondering.....]
...there are some that have already made the connection...and it ain't Obama's policies.
Does Axelrod think Gov Christie is going to be the repukes nominee? Now that's as titanic a nominee as it could get. When he goes down to defeat, we can only hope he sucks down the Teabaggers with him.
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Obama gets back to priority #1.... handing out handouts to those with their hands out.
Obama proposes letting the jobless sue for discrimination
"The job creation bill that President Obama sent to Congress earlier this month includes a provision that would allow unsuccessful job applicants to sue if they think a company of 15 more employees denied them a job because they were unemployed."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-proposes-letting-jobless-sue-discrimination-191042168.html
A "job creation bill" (STIMULUS) that allows those without jobs to sue those who provide jobs... should do wonders for the business climate don't you think? How many businesses are going to stop hiring or go out of business or just shut their doors from the resulting lawsuits and fear of lawsuits?
"Obama's been paying me to do nothing for 3 years.... and you don't want to hire me because you need someone to do work and I don't do work? Well Obama just gave me permission to sue you because I'm not working."
A redistribution of wealth from those who earn to those leech, now followed by an ever greater redistribution of jobs from existence into lawsuit settlements/legal fees.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
"Axlerod is right on the money with that quote!
We have mega-corporations funneling millions of dollars into secret C-Pacs with no repercussions attempting to BUY our democracy!"
And they are giving to Obama.
"Then there's Charles Koch notorious quote caught on tape that; 'This will be the mother of all wars' & comparing President Obama to Sadam Hussien..."
And he is giving to Obama too.
"Let the tea baggers continue to rearrange the deck chairs, the rest of us say; BRING IT!
Fired UP & READY to go!"
Name callong is the best you have? Why not losen your panties a bit and debate the issues? Are you scared? No doubt since you have never debated anyone here. All trash talk, no walk. That is you.
If you are going to be the first post and the MSNBC show girl, learn how to say something other that trash talk. State your case, get a set. learn how to debate or get you weave out of here.
No Skip,
Let me be clear. I am an executive in a Fortune 100 company. I deal with the uncertainty that Mr. Obama has created. He seemingly relishes fanning the flames of doubt for the future, still. As a major employer in the US (35,000), we cannot plan our business future on any form of solid ground in the United States. Funny thing is we are able plan in China, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, some European countries, Canada, Mexico and so many others. It is ridiculous what is happening here. We operate in over 100 countries for your information, sir.
So let me tell you about doubt and fear materializing this week in the form of a 'reduction in force' as we cut 4% of our salary workforce in the United States. Second time in 3 years! Our economists state "the US market is in the double dip recession" which cannot bode well for Obama and his Democrats. Whether we are actually in a recession is really of no consequence as our actions will bring it to fruition.
This is about economics Skip and all the Liberals on this thread. Always has been. All the new window dressings Obama has implemented have done nothing to improve our standing in the global economy.
I find it funny (odd) that you brought up religion in this debate. What does religion have to do with it? Our economy is not based on religion. The company I work for conducts business with ALL religions on this planet. It does not matter if they are communists either.
Skip, I am afraid you look foolish today. Good luck, sir. And if you must know, I am Buddhist.
This is nothing but a simple campaign ploy.....create a faux crisis to stir up voters who might not otherwise show up to vote for Mr. Obama's re-election...mainly urban voters who don't pay attention and kiddie-voters whose parents are paying the bills.
But start scaring these folks now to get their attention...lest the nitwit they voted for last time gets put out of office as is warranted by the lousy job he's done. When is that "Recovery Summer" arriving, anyway ?
Rational...
Thank you for speaking as a member of the "big business" community. Your thoughts are quite interesting and are important.
Some on this site will likely tell you that you don't know what you are talking about...but it is quite clear that you do ! A lot of people do not understand how business works and what our over-regulated, under-planned business atmosphere is up against when competing globally...especially when we have a government that hinders economic growth by creating uncertainty.
Saw a great sign Wish I wrote it "25 years ago we had Ronald Regan, Johnny Cash & Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, No Cash & No Hope!"
In preparation for the struggle will Obama be taking off his own bedroom slippers?
I think he may have a hard time getting Michelle to take her slippers off.
You know I would love to see a sit down discussion between Michael Moore and Michelle.
I think Michelle would have a few words of wisdom for Mr. Moore. That guy talking about health care is about as absurd as it gets.
Yeah I want to be on the hook for that fat asses' health care costs. Cause he so obviously exercises everyday and eats a healthy diet.
Dude is all chins and no neck.
Best Obamacare spokesman ever.
So, you guys are all obsessed with slippers today... How cute.
Funny, at first I thought you were talking about Chris Christie.
Someone please tell me why is it okay to make "fat" remarks about Moore but not about Christie.
Christie is not advocating for me to fund his health care.
Moore is. Moore is fat, just like Christie,
Neither eat right, diet and obviously do not exercise. All totally their choice.
Unless and until we have to pay for their health care, then it becomes our business.
Now come on AM - I don't want to tell the fat boys to put their Twinkies down, so why should Moore be up in my wallet asking for money for the angio-plasty that is right around the bend?
The difference spankster - is that the people of NJ do pay for christie's healthcare, and in a round about way so do you, even if you don't live there. No doubt, I'd rather pay for anyone but christubbies healthcare. Maybe he should check into the mafia plan and see if it will assist him any.
Spanky. Tell me you are not close to being serious. Do you really think that Michael Moore is in need of any of your pitance of an income to fund his healthcare, he could probably buy you out 10 times over.
Axelrod should not be referring, even obliquely, to sinking ships when talking about the reelection of President Obama. That's just bad karma.
Oops! White House fails basic geography test
http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/oops-white-house-fails-basic-geography-test/?hpt=hp_bn3
Is anyone surprised?
With 57 states it is difficult to know them all.... or to use the Internet when you have so much taxpayer money to spend and so little time to spend it.
Axelrod should refrain from 'Titanic' references.
He did. He used the word titanic with a lower case "c".
YOu were there, eh fielden?
Is that what he said?
Huh.
Oh he knew what he was saying... and he meant the reference the way people are taking it... don't kid yourself fielden. Otherwise he might have used something like colossal or tremendous.
No... titanic (or Titanic)... it makes no difference... both mean the same when speaking of Barry's chances in 2012!
HAHAHAHAHA!
OK felden, now I am really confused.
titaniC or titanic (with the lower case 'c')
what's the difference again?
I think what Axelrod meant to say was managing the 2012 Obama campaign was like simply re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Spanky, if you can't tell the difference between a noun and an adjective, then don't try to get into a battle about which "form" of titanic it was. Having nothing of substance to say is bad enough. Building your nothing on a foundation of ignorance about your own freaking language just makes you look like a douche.
[... just makes you look like a douche.]
Uh oh, "counselor"...the genie is out of the bottle...
Obama gets back to priority #1.... handing out handouts to those with their hands out.
Obama proposes letting the jobless sue for discrimination
"The job creation bill that President Obama sent to Congress earlier this month includes a provision that would allow unsuccessful job applicants to sue if they think a company of 15 more employees denied them a job because they were unemployed."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-proposes-letting-jobless-sue-discrimination-191042168.html
A "job creation bill" (STIMULUS) that allows those without jobs to sue those who provide jobs... should do wonders for the business climate don't you think? How many businesses are going to stop hiring or go out of business or just shut their doors from the resulting lawsuits and fear of lawsuits?
"Obama's been paying me to do nothing for 3 years.... and you don't want to hire me because you need someone to do work and I don't do work? Well Obama just gave me permission to sue you because I'm not working."
A redistribution of wealth from those who earn to those leech, now followed by an ever greater redistribution of jobs from existence into lawsuit settlements/legal fees.
Axelrod is right about 2012. It's going to be a long and difficult campaign.
It angers me that the GOP decided that defeating President Obama was more important that helping the country recover from economic collapse. Never in my years of following politics, of voting have I ever seen one party decide to simply obstruct, deny, delay and/or block every effort by the other side to solve the economic crisis. Never have I seen one party sit on the sidelines and do nothing to help the American people for ideologically rigid purposes only. The GOPTP's behavior has been disgusting and irresponsible.
Jody -- The GOPTP's behavior has been disgusting and irresponsible.
And what would you say about Harry Reid in the Senate? He shelves and pronounces bills DOA. He won't even look at them. Where is Obama's Jobs Bill. Isn't Harry sitting on it? Where's the rush? How many times did Obama say something like "pass it now". Should Obama be talking to Reid? Could it be those 23 Dem seats up for grabs in 2012?
On another thread, PEN-24 blames the TP for GE making billions and paying no taxes. He needs to get out more. Most of us know that Jeff Imelt is Obama's Job Czar and he (Jeff) is sending jobs and part of GE to China faster than I can type. And we all saw that Jeff was sitting with the first lady during Obama's Jobs Bill Speech... what a joke. Obama should fire Jeff now.
I'm glad the TP is speaking up. Tim G is defending the $200,000 price tag for a job. Come on, no one can defend that nor the $5 to $10 million per green energy job. And you wonder why people are upset?
"It angers me that the GOP decided that defeating President Obama was more important that helping the country recover from economic collapse."
Jeez - you still can't connect the dots...
Defeating Obama is ALL about helping the country recover from economic collapse. If not for Obama a recovery would be in full swing. He made things worse.
And by the way, new poll Obama worse than GW Bush. How's that going down! Yummy I bet
Jody was blissfully ignorant of all the help Bush got in the early 2000's.
But I wonder Jody - are you now talking about Reid? He sure doesn't seem to be doing much for O's mighty jobs bill.
Oh and hey - how about the Buffett Tax? Or is that all over now?
So Jody - get out there and rock the vote. I know you can make a difference. Turn that 39% into a rocking 41%.
Performance matters Jody. Unicorns are not real.
Obama is toast.
Maybe because in your lifetime the Democrats controlled Congress for most of it. You looked at it from a partisan perspective and never noticed them jamming things through. Up until the last decade Republicans couldn't block jack thus we ended up with some of the worst policies in history that are just now coming into play.
Whatever Obama does, the next POTUS is the one that will get blamed or the credit.
The Republicans only have ennough power to block but not enough to pass. They are doing exactly what they need to be doing. The only people with a problem are the ones that do not vote Republican anyway. Evidently you haven't been around politics too long because I think it is an exxageration to say never in your lifetime. This country has always been divided, you just didn't see nor hear about it because the media was so few and it was controlled by liberals.
Before talk radio came about, one opinion was broadcast everyday.
Jody, I agree with you.
Don't let these guys bully you. They are just proving your point.
Great post, Jody. No one expected the end of bi-partisanship but in the past in times of crisis, both parties have come together to do what needed to be done. Sadly, the Republicans chose to sit this crisis out. It was more important to them to try to regain the Presidency than to address the nation's great needs (which they created). So I think Mr. Axelrod is correct----the re-election campaign will be a struggle because the recovery is not further along than it could be, but it is a struggle that we can, and must, win.
Obama has opposition, and the Left doesn't like it. Hard to get used to, isn't it Libbies? You keep talking about Obama "not getting support from the GOP". So, what great idea has Obama had that has helped this country? Stimulus I that failed miserably and added a trillion to the national debt?ObamaCare which will get ruled unconstitutional during an election year? Adding so many regulations that investors and businesses can no longer invest or do business? A Stimulus II proposal that looks a lot like Stimulus I.
Who would support any of these things? Well, besides the far Left Loons that care more about worshipping their hero Obama,and who couldn't care less about the results of Obama's schemes.
Notice the COMPLETE DENIAL of the fact that Harry Reid is sitting in the Senate, DOING NOTHING with the jobs bill, obstructing EVERY piece of legislation, every budget proposal, EVERYTHING that the republicans present for consideration.
THE PARTY OF NO WEARS BLUE!
The Jacka$$eS are the obstructionists!
It angers me that the GOP decided that defeating President Obama was more important that helping the country recover from economic collapse.
Jody, Jody, Jody, it was never about defeating Obama because he was a democrat, or because he was black, or any other reason other than the destructive policies he has implemented from day 1. He made no secret of the fact that he wanted to "fundamentally change" the US during his campaign. Changes that were counter to everything that made us the greatest nation on Earth in the first place. Instead of moving us toward the fundamentals of what made us great, he chose to move us toward the very policies that have put us in this mess. In short he and the rest of the democrats didn't and STILL DON"T GET IT! Therefore defeating this socialist ass wipe became job 1 for conservatives at that moment.
There is just no Blue response to Reids delay tactics, eh gang?
Reid, Mr. No.
But Obama said pass it now.
So libbies why doesn't Obama take his slippers off and beat Reid upside the head?
Or is that racist? No wait, Reid must be racist.
I think there is an easy answer to the question about why hasn't the US Senate taken up the jobs bill. According to the constitution, all bills involving appropriations must start in the House of Representatives. If the Senate passed the jobs bill, the House would have to ignore it.
Still waiting to see some language on that "Buffett Rule". Something? Anything? It's "On the table" though, right?
Obama 2012 - "I'll raise everyones taxes, except yours"
Axelrod is right on. The Republican slate is a disgrace. Any person with integrity would have called out the crowd who booed the soldier. But not one of them had the spine or integrity to do it. They are the gutter trash of all politicians.
So glad you posted this because I was looking for the "Reply" link and found your posting.
See, this is why bloggers like Spanky and the et al crew have zero credibility when speaking about legislation. They don't even know the proper procedures of how legislation gets written and subsequently passed, yet they get on this blog and make absolutely ludicrous remarks about what our Democratic Representatives and Senators do or don't do. PRICELESS!
Guess it just goes to show that there is more of a need for better education in the U.S.A. than we thought!
Losing power is always difficult. I guess the difficulty depends on your perspective. It will be another cake walk for the GOP. What has changed since Niovember 2010? Well, unemployment is still huge, gas prices are still huge, deficit and debt are still huge and growing. Obama has declared war on capitalism. If the election was today, Romney would wipe out Obama.
It doesn't matter why conservatives hate the president, rather that the hate is the reason for obstruction. If only the Teapublicans in congress were on the sidelines, but it's far worse than that. They are actually undermining and sabotaging the system.
And to confuse POS bills like Paul Ryan Hoods arse-backward plan to privatize Medicare to give more tax breaks to the rich, or the Duck Dodge and Dismantle balanced budget bill of severe cuts and removing taxation with representation VERSUS very viable solutions like the president's jobs plan and deficit reduction plan is just more lies from the right-wing riff raff. Of course the Teapublican chicken crap is shelved--because it's chicken crap. Give us one damn good reason why the Teapublicans have blocked every jobs bill and olive branches such as the $4 Trillion Big deal?
There is only ONE answer. Teapublicans are throwing America under the bus as their only hope for their own survival in 2012. Throw the anarchist traitors out!
voice and say it isn't so.
What part of the constitution don't you understand???
An appropriation is not revenue. A budget is an appropriation for spending, not revenue. The jobs bill is an appropriation to borrow. ergo, the senate can introduce legislation to appropriate funds as well.
You can't connect the dots that opposing the Obama socialist programs is good for the country. Making him a one-term loser is good for the country in the long run...and short run. More porkulus money is simply wasting money we don't have and can never pay back, let alone pay the interest on.
Obama is supposed to be the leader in the room. He has not led. He needs to go.
The President let his opportunity to lead slip away during the so-called debt ceiling crisis. He confirmed the electorate's suspicion that he won't fight for his own beliefs and he won't for us--the middle class and the economically disenfranchised.
Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, LBJ, Clinton would have seized the moment, refused to capitulate and turned the screws on the Republican House. That would have been leadership. That moment passed and it's not coming back...unless the Republicans threaten yet another shutdown.
It's up to the American people to turn the screws on the House Republicans, by voting them out in 2012. We all have our job - the President has his, and we the voters have ours.
President Obama does not have a vote in Congress. What a pathetic display of rigid ideology and the cost to the country was great but it also cost Congress dearly. The GOP House failed miserably in their jobs and most Americans realize this. It was the GOP/Tea Party House that created a non-existent debt ceiling crisis. Holding the country hostage in the name of ideology is wrong. The polls show Americans primarily blaming Congress for that unnecessary debacle and blaming Congressional republicans more than Congressional democrats. The sad part of it is that the GOPTP's only goal was to cause harm to President Obama without ever considering the harm they caused to millions of Americans let alone how inept it makes the USA appear to the rest of the world.
Aww, looky here - Amy has not kept up on her statistics and polling data.
Amy dear, even the DCCC has conceded the house. Oh and the senate.
In fact Politico had a lovely little story quoting a dem in the House - they are pissed they have to be down ticket from Obama.
Pissed Amy. At Obama.
The coals continue to get hotter Amy.
Fancy this Too, one point you fail to or refuse to recognize is that Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, LBJ, Clinton did not have Tea Party extremists who hate government in any form and who would rather shut everything down than compromise. Those presidents had republicans who actually cared about the country. The Tea Party, by their own words, simply did not and do not care nor do they yet recognize the consequences of their actions.
60 freshman Senators too tough for Obama
Yeah, Newt was such a cream puff.
Jody:
Congress has always had low poll numbers most of my lifetime. That is nothing new. Most will be elected again irregardless of what a national poll says. This will be a year of re-districting and both parties will have their protected parcels in place. Remember Republicans own most state houses. I told you Democrats back when you were disrespecting Bush at every turn it would come back to bite you. All you did was manage to piss Republicans off.
Jody - it's called a history book.
You should get yourself one. Seriously.
And like Rob points out Jody, what in god's name are the 80 members of the progressive caucus doing these days?
Obama loses to just 60 house freshman. Wow, such a low bar you all set. You all must be so very proud.
She does not own a history book. She's got Obama's books, and that's all she needs.
The problem for the liberals? They are totally, completely out of touch.
This is, always was, and forever shall be, a center right country.
Liberals don't understand that.
Back in 2009, when Obama's polls were still at their highs, I warned that they would come tumbling down. Why? Well, those same polls showed strong disagreement with all of Obama's policies. You cannot have a high level of approval when people disagree with every single policy.
Still, folks gave him a chance- for a longer period of time than they gave any other president. When it became obvious that he was not on a learning curve- that he simply did not care what people thought, or whether or not his policies failed- that's when the level of disapproval went up.
Then, he got handed a republican house, and a slimmer margin of democrats in the Senate. Once again, folks gave him the benefit of the doubt. Seems everybody thought he'd pivot in the way Bill Clinton pivoted once the voice of the electorate was made clear.
Did not happen. In fact, most recently, his level of personal approval is way down. Seems folks have decided that not only do they not like his policies, not only do they think he's failing in the job, they're not that crazy about him, personally, either.
Titanic was the correct word for Axelrod. Wonder if he's informed Obama that HCR was the iceberg? Or that they're taking on water in the economic engine room? Or that the ship is sinking under the weight of his collective failures?
Could be he sent that email right before the CBC tantrum. That would explain a lot.
My only complaint with President Obama - he is far too kind, I'd never have given the repugnants or baggers the time of day, he is a gentleman, and I am in no way a gentlewoman - I'd have given them pure hell every day and would still be doing so. Never met a repugnant or bagger yet I'd respect and don't think I ever will, so it would be a pretty easy job for me. There is no bringing this country together, unless you want to count the white supremecy group coming together with the baggers, repugnants, and mega wealthy - and there is not a single one of them I'd spit down their throats if they were on fire. Yep, I'm angry, yep, I'm bitter and yep, I'll never, ever vote for anyone in the bagger/white supremecy/repugnant party. They may like to forget their time in office (and believe me we all would love to be able to forget it) but I sure won't let them, I've been voting in every election since 1972 - can tell you all about tricky dick, the adultry king ronnie reagun, and stupid bush, so heck no, I'm not forgetting the evils of the mega wealthy and the devil they serve.
union baby - seems that obama is trying to make up ground though.
I really do wonder if obama can sell the populace on the notion that the POTUS must now be partisan AND a divider.
I always thought that an executive, POTUS if you will, had minimum leadership skills to promote unity and bipartisanship behavior within the organization they headed up.
Yeh, we all know how well that attitude helped union representation over time. More union representaion has been lost because of that type of union stupidity. BTW - thank you for shooting yourself.
Obama gets back to priority #1.... handing out handouts to those with their hands out.
Obama proposes letting the jobless sue for discrimination
"The job creation bill that President Obama sent to Congress earlier this month includes a provision that would allow unsuccessful job applicants to sue if they think a company of 15 more employees denied them a job because they were unemployed."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-proposes-letting-jobless-sue-discrimination-191042168.html
A "job creation bill" (STIMULUS) that allows those without jobs to sue those who provide jobs... should do wonders for the business climate don't you think? How many businesses are going to stop hiring or go out of business or just shut their doors from the resulting lawsuits and fear of lawsuits?
"Obama's been paying me to do nothing for 3 years.... and you don't want to hire me because you need someone to do work and I don't do work? Well Obama just gave me permission to sue you because I'm not working."
A redistribution of wealth from those who earn to those leech, now followed by an ever greater redistribution of jobs from existence into lawsuit settlements/legal fees.
Saw a great sign Wish I wrote it "25 years ago we had Ronald Regan, Johnny Cash & Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, No Cash & No Hope!"
Hey Axelrod, has anyone told you that Obama screwed up his first 3 years and should NOT be telling his constituents to "stop complaining"? Obama should be APOLOGIZING to the voters for NOT working on what the American people wanted .......JOBS,JOBS,JOBS. The campaign needs to get out the lifeboats because the Titanic already hit the iceberg , it's time, we need to wave good bye to the ship !
And all we hear from the RWNJ's is it's NOT the Governments job to create them...
BTW - someone should clue in the Weeper of the House on that talking point since, he ran around last fall yelling WHERE ARE THE JOBS & promising if elected THEY would create them...
Jaysus - you idiots can't even keep your bull@!$%# straight!
The tea baggers sure can name a mean Post Office though...
Hey Feisty, turn the pages of a newspaper and maybe you'll find out that the Republican House has passed bills that sit in the Senate because Harry Reid does NOT want them passed! In fact, Reid won't even put Obama's "jobs bill" up for a vote, he said, for at least a month. Reid is afraid that his Dems would have to vote AGAINST it. That bill has tax increases in it and the Dems won't vote for it either. Obama is all "smoke and mirrors" and everyone knows it.
Just a reminder ...
John Boehner, Oct 8, 2010: “Let me be crystal clear, it if isn’t clear already: this speech is
about jobs. And this speech is about jobs, because this coming election is about jobs.”
“We can help small businesses get back to creating jobs.”
So Dennis - that is exactly why what the Senate does, or doesn't do s so important.
So Dennis - what Reid up to today? Got that Jobs bill ready to go to the floor?
Dennis you recall do make this too easy.
Let me be crystal clear. I say laser focus, laser focus and shovel ready. By the way, recovery summer was a year ago.
Tony C
I think it's so funny how fond Republicans are of the line "government never created a single job" and then they turn around and bash Obama for not creating jobs! The only "job creating" strategies Republicans can come up with is: cuting taxes and reducing environmental protections. ( That Horizon oil rig explosion hardly caused a ripple, let's make it easir for oil companies to drill!)
Lets see Obama's next (and last) State of the Union speech have him telling Americans to "Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'." Maybe this time he can manage to add in the "g"s at the end of his words.
Obama 2012 - "I'm right, you're wrong"
Amy, we need regulations. But what we have experienced in the last few years is "over" regulation with some new regulations that restrict business way too much. Government does not create jobs, government can, however, create an business friendly environment where jobs can be created. Energy independence has many benefits, including national security, economic growth and high paying jobs Yes, making it easier for oil companies to drill is in the best interest of this nation. It is not an either or proposition when it comes to energy and environmental concerns, it should be both. We need both, one as much as the other. To not use our natural resources is crazy and costs us a great deal. The tax codes needs to be reformed. Obama's approach is to point out certain aspects of the current tax codes to score political points. That is not a solution it is just playing to voters he hopes will buy into this class warfare "tax the rich" game which doesn't solve the problem.
Tony C -- Unfortunately, nobody feels how imperative total tax reform is to moving this Country forward. When you have members of Congress (Camp) just last week saying we don't have the time to negotiate tax reforms under the Deficit Commission you know we are being played by Congress. It could be done even outside the Commission...who's stopping them? Congress is to blame.
whow leona, guess you grew up under those regan education budget cuts and can't count, now can ya? wink, wink, it has not been 3 years since President Obama was sworn into office - but we understand, you really do practice georgie's fuzzie math, don't you?
Dont_carry... my point was not a matter of who to blame. The fact is Obama is "using" aspects of the tax code which he is exaggerating, to score political points. His across the board statement that the wealthest Americans pay less than the middle class is just plain false. Also there are a lot of seniors that will be hurt if the tax on capital gains is increased. There are a lot of retired folks who live on investments and SS and will be hit with the higher tax. They are not millionaires and billionaires. Obama's proposals are just as much game playing as Congress. His idea of deficit reduction is based on cuts in future spending. Example, I was going to spend 200,000 more next year than this year. Now I am only going to spend 100,000 more next year than this year. I just saved 100,000. Yea right.
hey Union baby Tennessee, HAHA. Why is it you can't stick to the issues?? "wink wink"..... Do you need to divert attention away from the "ZERO" Obama PRESIDENCY? Nice try.
And so do Republicans Tony. Everyday. Over the weekend the NY Times did an article on how some will actually be able to pay even less taxes than currently even if the 2012 increase goes into effect. So the game continues with no solutions because the powers that be want it that way. BTW Ryan's Plan played that game too.
I support the infrastructure spending under the jobs act along with raising the capital gains tax. I just feel the increase could and should be part of total reform. Say a top rate of 20% with no bias as to where income comes from. Fair trade in my opinion.
You RWNJ's on this blog are just hilarious today!
@Tony C, Leona #'s JAS1 - are all three of you the same person? Reading your posts it seems like you three sit in the same room passing notes from one to the other.
Just so you get it right, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES is the chamber of Congress that is responsible for PASSING THE PRESIDENTS JOBS BILL. That is the responsibility of the Speaker and Minority Leader of the House, the branch of Congress currently controlled by Republican's and Tea Party members.
87 Freshmen Tea Party members were elected to Congress in 2010, not 60.
The cry of "OVER REGULATION" is BS Tony C and you know it. Name one Regulation that has been implemented since 2009 that was not implemented in response to the financial meltdown of 2008 or the Deep Horizon oil spill? Businesses should not be allowed to operate without laws and requirements to protect the American citizen, in other words Capitalism without controls leads to unchecked GREED. (Kinda what took place prior to 2008).
You three need to do a mirror check, because the real enemy is you and your right-wing ideology. America has long been and will always be a Nation founded upon the ideas of fairness, equity, equal opportunity, equal rights and most of all respect for the office of the democratically elected President of the United States. We may not agree over ideology, but we sure need to be able to agree on that.
SayitaintSo, haha, You call us the enemy??!..............Here's the REAL enemy and one reason why being a Democrat implies govt. fraud and a waste of tax payer money............"Among the roughly 5,000 creditors named by Solyndra, a bankrupt solar energy company that is under investigation for losing a half billion dollars in federal loans, is the California Democratic Party , which says it doesn't know why.The bankruptcy filing doesn't say why the organization is listed as one of the creditors or how much money it is owed. The filing contains about 200 pages of creditors listed in alphabetical order with their address but not the amount owed."
Don't carry... the real issue we face is the 14 trillion dollar debt along with borrowing over 40 cents of every dollar Washington spends. Yes, there are wise things to spend money on. But, we need to get the economy moving first. Obama is not going to do the things necessary to get this economy rolling with free enterprise leading the way. Obama wants to prove government can do it. Obama is wrong, and 33 months proves it. More "stimulus" called a jobs bill is a political stunt, nothing more.
Sayit... your exaggerations and misinformation won't change the facts. The Obama administration has rolled out pages of regulations every week. Just because you can't or won't deal with the truth doesn't change anything. No one is suggesting we don't need regulations. We need common sense regulations. Some liberals always seem to exaggerate and misrepresent what anyone says who disagrees with them. The unemployment situation is in part due to this administrations "over" regulation of the free markets, which is also in part responsible for jobs going over seas. Now you can exaggerate those statements.
Well, obama and company have identified over 500 regs that are currently hindering job growth. That was what he said in his "pass this bill today" speech right?
As potus doesn't he have the ability by executive order to negate these regs?
Oh, I forgot, he would have lost some campaign time to do so, so much for looking after the welfare of America. <end sarcasm>
american - And Obama decided to introduce a new one... not a reg, but he just painted another bullseye on them.
Obama proposes letting the jobless sue for discrimination
"The job creation bill that President Obama sent to Congress earlier this month includes a provision that would allow unsuccessful job applicants to sue if they think a company of 15 more employees denied them a job because they were unemployed."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-proposes-letting-jobless-sue-discrimination-191042168.html
A "job creation bill" (STIMULUS) that allows those without jobs to sue those who provide jobs... should do wonders for the business climate don't you think? How many businesses are going to stop hiring or go out of business or just shut their doors from the resulting lawsuits and fear of lawsuits?
"Obama's been paying me to do nothing for 3 years.... and you don't want to hire me because you need someone to do work and I don't do work? Well Obama just gave me permission to sue you because I'm not working."
A redistribution of wealth from those who earn to those leech, now followed by an ever greater redistribution of jobs from existence into lawsuit settlements/legal fees.
Obama "talks" and that is where it ends.
Well, for the first two years of the President's first term, all we heard was "show us the birth certificate!" and Joe Walsh heckling the President during his State of the Union speech - pretty, shocking, if you ask me. The Republicans have proved to be as gauche out of office as they were incomptetent in office. Why in the world return them to power? So they can find another country to invade? So they can lower taxes for the wealthiest even more? So they can finish destroying public schools?
Amy,
Just on this last sentence you wrote: So they can finish destroying public schools?
Not sure what you mean but would you agree that not only are our kids fatter than ever, but they are dumber than ever?
The US has to have 1000s and 1000s of great teachers - let them teach. Pay them for success, get rid of the usless ones and by all means get rid of that seniority crap - basically kill off the unions. Have accountability and competition and things would turn around.
I don't know, this President is doing a pretty good job of picking new countries to invade.
Doesn't look like he needs any help with that.
But that's OK Amy, I know those burning coals can really throw off one's train of thought..
Leave her be Krell - it hard to type when you feet are all burned up from walking over hot coals, every day for Obama.
Say Amy - what was the average teacher salary in your state in 1990? How about today?
Amy, FYI--it was Joe Wilson who heckled the President. Joe Walsh is the dead beat dad who was elected in 2010.
Krell, every state has a different method of how they retain or dismiss teachers. Some states, it is seniority in coordination with unions; in some seniority is not in the equation; but most have a combination of seniority and teacher evaluation. To make blanket statements that it is all seniority is incorrect.
Thanks, Jody, can't keep these loser Joes straight!
Read an interesting article on MSNBC yesterday about the rapid turnover of teachers. Seems the challenge now is keeping teachers in their job longer than five years.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44505094/ns/today-education_nation/t/classroom-crisis-many-teachers-have-little-or-no-experience/
Easy mistake Amy!
Reminds me of all the boob's lot's of numbers around here! ;o)
Who's the dead beat daddy again? lol
Amy, you are welcome, easy mistake since the names are so similar. I've seen others and heard them on TV do the same thing. Your comment above is so true. They would like nothing better than eliminate public education, although they're doing their best Michael Jackson moonwalk to change the subject now. If they had their way, the right would privatize everything. Ron Paul said we should privatize the food and drug adminstration as if drug companies and food producers could regulate themselves. All we heard about for over two years was the birth certificate and health care but the right never mentions all the other legislation that was passed and signed into law from women's right to sue over pay inequality to the first improvement to Veteran's benefits since the GI Bill.
I keep wondering when teachers will be recognized as essential to everything else.
Actually I remember Joe Walsh as the driving force behind the Eagles in the mid-seventies.
Hotel California is a Classic.
Spanky,
I know - all one can do is sit back and witness the Obama Worship that goes on in these pages. It is nauseating.
Keep posting - I read your comments and laugh out loud at many of them.
the driving force behind the Eagles in the mid-seventies.
Once again, WCA, I find myself voting you up. You're very funny when you are not being right-wing-y.
Jody, Iowa
Wilson was elected in 2001 in a special election caused by the death of Floyd Spence, Wilson's former boss.
Jody, let Amy go, she's on a roll.
Next we'll hear from Amy about how the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
Yep, jody. Libs sure did teach krell well on the value of blanket statements.
Who can forget...
Its all st ronnies fault, it's all bush1 &2 fault, it is the weepers fault, it is the republicans fault, it is the teabaggers fault, etc. Quite the deal you FR libs have here, you have the blanket accusations down pat and yet you chastise for doing one of his own. At least you were civil about it with no apparent sarcasm.
Joanna, while funny, please don't put amy in the same category as bev and navy retired. She does have her moments of clarity.
I guess that Healthcare reform stuff just happened to other people.
Oh, let's talk about healthcare reform, when President Obama allowed my senator, Olympia Snowe (R) to help craft the bill, in the spirit of bipartisanship, which meant dropping the public option. Democrats sought imput from the Republicans on this major bill, and they screwed us.
Just goes to show you the type of filthy scum that makes up the current gop crop running for president and their supporters, that not one of them said a word against the crowd booing an American Soilder! I just dare anyone to support that behavior!
If you support "Don't ask, Don't tell", you probably have that opinion. He is no more special than the rest of us that served and those that will serve. He put himself on front street. He knew the shyt was controversal and wasn't stinking until he put the stick in and stirred.
Everyone is equal in the land of politics. Liberals do it to Conservative supporters all of the time.
I don't support what that 1-2 audience members did, but it is America.......
You are right Pat, besides that, it is no more of a sin to be gay than it is to have more than one living spouse - hear that Newtie and Ronnie?
The GOP is the party of hate and divisiveness. While the GOP candidates chew on each other from the stage, the boorish rank and file sit anonymously in the audience, surrepticiously booing anyone that doesn't fit their idea of a master race.
Hitler tried to get rid of the sick, the weak, the gays, the religious misfits. We villified him and defeated him. Yet today, the GOP stands silently by while those very same ideas of "death to those who are unlike me" are not only promoted, but cheered by the audiences in public GOP TV debates. Have we really advanced our society? Or have tough times, like those in Nazi Germany in the 1930's, made us hard and vicious again?
C'mon man enuff with the Nazi BS. You know damn well there is NO comparison. Liberals exaggerate too damn much.
MkeMike: Id10T
The GOP hates anyone that does not look like them. Surprise half the country don't look like them. What will they do. Ask every low information voter to get out and vote. Still not enough votes for that one. Especially if 85% of the African American community votes again this go round. The know what's at stake.
MkeMike--you are exactly right. It appears to me that we could easily repeat history!
"We have met the emeny and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
Way cool, with all the attacks and rhetoric against the republicans and tea party trying to minimize and do away with them, one would think that the left is the new nationalist socialist party advocating my way or I will veto!
Please do carry on libs.
Once again thanks to the Republican Party yesterday's funding bill passage was reasonable and appropriate and just goes to show you that the democrat party is nothing more than hopeless tax and spenders.
The tidal wave is approaching and axelrod is right Obama is the Titanic. A good Captain will go down with the ship but once he loses the election somebody will have to go in there with the jaws of life to get him and his freeloading family out of the white house.
Excuse me, Rob? Where were these GOP deficit hawks from 2001 through 2006? The biggest share of them, including Paul Ryan, voted for every "unfunded" piece of legislation that came to the floor. Were you outraged then, Rob numbers? Freeloading family in the White House. Does that statement apply to every President who with his/her family resides there or just the current resident? Your statement, Rob, says a great deal about you and it isn't pretty.
I second that Jody.
Bob = looooosssseerrrr
Could hardly wait for a raving bigot to show up.
ditto Jody!
Jody, your living in the past won't get you to the future.
In the words of dick cheney, "deficits don't matter" isn't that just glorious jody? Old school thoughts embraced by 20th century politicians, doesn't matter L or R. Even obama is trying to live that dream along with <warning, warning blanket statement ahead> senate and house democrats.
Good thing the 2007-2008 recession came along followed up by increased taxpayer awareness in 2009. Seems that the tea party got it right in 2010 by saying that "deficits do matter" and getting the republicans to start acknowledging that they do.
Yep jody, live in the past if you and your fellow libs want, but many of us choose to learn from it.
Jody
Excuse me but the Republican spending is the reason that Pelosi and Reid got to be Speaker and Majority Leader.
Remember "No new deficit spending" of Jan. 2007??? BOY DID WE GET SCREWED!!!
Countries can only "kick the fiscal responsibility" can down the road so long!
Government bailouts, robbing the left pocket to pay the right pocket, does not, has not, and will not work. That is proven!
A country can not borrow their way out of debt.
A country has to cut spending, live within revenue, to become "solvent" and that is not happening anywhere, whether in Europe or in the US. It is also proven, government NEVER has enough revenue, NEVER!
Be prepared, eventually, the debt comes due, and when that happens, whether in the US or Europe, look out! The clock is ticking!
Clinton with Gingrich's help in Congress had the country's fiscal house in order; we were on the road to debt free UNTIL Bush was elected and the GOP did its usual tax cuts and more tax cuts and spend like crazy on the credit card. In January 2009, the GOP brought out its fiscal responsibility signs and talking points again hoping people will forget that they talk the talk but have not walked the walk since Reagan.
Jody:
When Bush came in there was a "PROJECTED" Budget Surplus not a PROJECTED pay off of the DEBT. Two different animals. There were also a lot of "IF's" involved with that too.
Did you or any of your other Liberal friends return those checks Bush sent to you??????????? If you didn't, that talking point is dead. I wish more Conservatives with platforms would challenge this point.
So signing the tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires three months in office help the projected surplus turn in to a greater debt. Nice words hole in the Middle of your head TX
Two wrongs, do not make a right! Bush was wrong, Obama is wrong! NEXT!!!!
and the beat goes on... libs can't correlate historical events with economic events or even that bipartisan legislation truly does exist.
Rob in ma numbers...you are no better than the filthy scum that booed a currently serving member of our military...you and all your TP followers!
I respect all of you Democrats sticking with the sinking ship. It gives us independents more life boats to get over to the other side.
You independents are all going back to Europe?!
Independents are people who make up their minds in the voting booth. Trust me, they aren't voting for a guy as big as a house.
Obama 2012.
And yet the very liberal and Democratic state of New Jersey did in fact vote for 'a guy as big as a house'.
That would be a fools errand Amy.
Little bit bigoted about a persons looks are you Amy?
It's a titanic struggle everyday... for Chris Christie to get his pants on!
Rob in MA
Your right. If the major earthquake hits the west coast and la, sf, portland, seattle and all points in between are flattened we would have to suspend the defense department budget in order to pay for the assistance any american citizens required and I think a proof of citizenship should be done before rendering assistance.. We dont want any hard working american to pay for some lazy illegal immigrant getting treatment at our American hospitals.
America for Americans
Obama is just like the Captain of the Titanic in as much as Obama, "full steam ahead" with spending, will spend tax dollars borrowed or otherwise until we all drown in the debt!
@ObamaSUCKZZZ2012,
Your mama!
Obama gets back to priority #1.... handing out handouts to those with their hands out.
Obama proposes letting the jobless sue for discrimination
"The job creation bill that President Obama sent to Congress earlier this month includes a provision that would allow unsuccessful job applicants to sue if they think a company of 15 more employees denied them a job because they were unemployed."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/obama-proposes-letting-jobless-sue-discrimination-191042168.html
A "job creation bill" (STIMULUS) that allows those without jobs to sue those who provide jobs... should do wonders for the business climate don't you think? How many businesses are going to stop hiring or go out of business or just shut their doors from the resulting lawsuits and fear of lawsuits?
"Obama's been paying me to do nothing for 3 years.... and you don't want to hire me because you need someone to do work and I don't do work? Well Obama just gave me permission to sue you because I'm not working."
A redistribution of wealth from those who earn to those leech, now followed by an ever greater redistribution of jobs from existence into lawsuit settlements/legal fees.
Sorry Pat - I've always tried to respect the office of the presidency. Even though I disagreed with Clinton I still considered him my president.
Not Obama though (and not because his black)
He referred to me as the "ENEMY". He is a JOKE and the mistake this country made in electing him will be corrected in November 2012!
Quite obvious Rob in Ma voted McCain/Palin in 2008. We should really listen to his judgement on all things political.
Tell us Rob in Ma, what plan is the current crop of GOP Presidential hopefuls putting forth to "correct the mistakes" that our currently elected President has made?
Are any of them going to put aside Republican ideology, their Grover Norquist pledge, their Donald Trump fawning, or their fear of Rush Limbaugh and do what over 70% of American's want which is to reduce of debt and deficit through a combination of Spending Cuts and Revenue Increases?
Are they going to press their GOP members to work with DEM members to solve the problems of all Americans?
Are they going to press for the expansion of MIDDLE CLASS JOBS, a return of MANUFACTURING, repair our failing and crumbling NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, or INVEST IN EDUCATING OUR YOUTH?
Tell us, oh mighty Conservative Sage, what will a GOP Presidency, and GOP House and Senate do for Americans?
Nice try but most people do not agree.
Is that you Karl, Hey Karl how are you? I thought you were running around raising secret pac money. Aw c'mon Karl I know that's you.
[He referred to me as the "ENEMY".]
ROTFLMFAO!
Raab, the only joke here is you...and a very entertaing one at that.
...you are going to be one miserable individual until 2016...
...have a good time wallowing in your own crapulence...
The really frightening thing is the republican candidates. With the exception of Romney and Huntsman, the rest of them seem to be morons who are detached from reality.
Each of them, in their own way is as bad as George W. Bush. And all of them are advocating the exact policies that caused this mess in the first place. All of them seem to think that cutting taxes for corporations and the wealthy will automatically create jobs, when that was exactly what the Bush Administration did, twice and NO JOBS WERE CREATED. In fact millions were lost because of republican stupidity and incompetence, the exact qualities being displayed by the republican candidates.
A vote for a republican is a vote for a Depression.
We are in a recession if your neighbor is unemployed
We are in a depression if you are unemployed
It's all relative.
You like them because they are liberals. RINO's
For once David Axelrod speaks the truth and tells it like it is!
"True Americans" are tried of the lie's and false promises!
I'll vote for ANYONE except Barack H. Obama.
Americans voted for the wrong 1st black president!
It should have been Herman Cain ! Mr. Cain love America !
Obama was the first bi-racial president and Herman Cain will be the first black president.
The President can flamboyantly speak all he wants. His timing of the things is left wanting! He continues to navigate the river with a broken paddle. Axlerod is right, he cannot paddle with any REAL resolutions. The health care"BOONDOGGLE" is abhorrent and detrimental to this economy. Please take the time to read his apparent background of politics. The President is showing his hand. Sane Americans want him gone!
Our President? Read twice and think about it!
Look at his Czars...anti-business..anti- american.
As many correctly predicted from day one, Barack Hussien Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University ..
They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands.
Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming.
Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government.
Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.
Universal health care . The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions).
Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt.
What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government . Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?
Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors.
Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."
Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Barack Hussien Obama's plan all along.
His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.
Legalize 12 million illegal Mexican immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America . But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security ..
Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go?
It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country.
It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues).
All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America ..
The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful.
The ends justify the means. Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama).
Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Barack Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition. With the acts outlined above, Barack Hussien Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system. Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by Columbia University college classmate Barack Hussien Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan
Hi Jody from Iowa--
I like your posts. Still, referencing the Tea Party as an excuse not to lead is disingenuous. Clinton actually let Newt and company shut down the government, if you remember, much to their political detriment. The President could have and should have stood firm before the House Republicans.
My real point is that at a subconscious level, we all 'feel' his weakness at that moment. It was, unfortunately, transformative in the electorate's view of the President. It was after he caved on the debt ceiling that his poll numbers really began to erode. Guess why.
Do they pay you Repukes to be on this site with you insane notions President Obama created this mess and Republicans theories were always correct. WOW there is reality and the GOP/Tea bag Reality.
Soak the Tea baggers for all they got. Every F-in dime. It's about time over the last 30 years you paid your fair share period.
Mr. Axelrod makes a good point about the current GOP candidates:
“Not one person on that platform, not one candidate was willing to say, ‘Don’t do that. It’s inappropriate to boo someone who’s risking his life for our country, who’s serving our country honorably.'"
All candidates stood mute on the stage of these debates while the gay serviceman was booed, while the execution of over 200 people in Texas was cheered and while there was an answer to suggest an uninsured person be left to die. Profiles in courage, indeed.
The gay serviceman was not booed, his question was booed and it was only booed by a couple of morons in the audience, not the entire audience. I do not like the booing but get the facts straight.
Memo to: Doris, Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Ron Paul, Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, John Huntsman...
Edmund Burke
The GOP has no good men, or good women.
I think John McCain is the only Republican leader I have heard say: "Obama is a decent family man and a citizen" to a crowd of crazed Tea Party people. But, then McCain has his RINO side.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14479.html
mikemike, is that like saying there are no good mike(s)?????? lol
I still see stupid people and they do not know they are stupid, lol
If the election were held today and Barack H. Obama was running against Herman Cain, who would you vote for!
Barack H. Obama vs Herman Cain ?
Everything is relative, especially so in our new global economy that is increasingly dominating our economic and financial arena. American corporate taxes are now the very highest among the advanced economies with whom we trade and compete; about twice the level of the average of our competitors. From a cost basis, being #1 in taxes puts our industrial and service base at a serious global competitive disadvantage. This is a barrier to growth, expansion, new start-ups, hiring and new jobs.
Our tax system is currently as obsolete as the agricultural age of 150 years ago. Our present tax system is in need of more urgent and massive reform and repair than are our bridges and highways. You can't have a competitive 21st century business community based on a 19th century financial system. And being over-regulated by costly regs has only made this condition much worse
sonmanvb,
What does the GOP mean when they talk about being "over-regulated"? Check out these photos.
Here is what the US would look like under GOP control. We fought this battle before, yet the GOP continues to push for economic growth at the expense of quality of life. I don't want to slave away in filth for .33/day with no benefits. Every GOP Presidential candidate is advocating putting the US into a "race to the bottom".
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/
Do we want the entire US to look like Texas, or worse, China, in order to keep the corporations and wealthy happy? We regulated our industries to avoid this, and now the GOP whines that the regulations need to be removed. Can't we be better than China?
MkeMike--not only will we look like China--we will have slave labor wages like China!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
Take a look at H.R. 2913 introduced Sept 14, 2011 by Coffman of CO.
Provides for the termination of retirement benefits for those newly elected after the passage of the bill. This bill is the first step to attempt to get an handle on the unfunded pension benefits now being promised to Congress. Most of these plans and the Federal, State, and Local levels are superfulous and overreaching plans that rely on future taxes to be paid. Those same tax dollars we are being told will pay off the debt.
Take a look at what your state owes in future unfunded pensions and then realize that IL, NY, NJ, CA are likely ten times worse....it must be changed.
This first step needs a second and third reaching all unfunded elected officials plans. If you can not eliminate it for those coming into the system, how do you ever get this under control
Congress and/or the Senate will vote this down because it effects them directly.
Oh yes. Government workers suck the life out of the private sector. All money taken out of the private sector for government equals less jobs; more poor.
Government employees used to want to SERVE the public; but now they want to enslave the public for thier own greedy pensions.
Well, it's quite possible that the American economy is on its way downhill and it's not going back uphill, whoever ends up being President. I will admit that I think there will always be a small slice of the citizenry that will continue doing well--those with a significant amount of capital to move around the world.