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Subscribe to RSSMIAMI -- Addressing a crowd of mostly seniors and using a new visual aid, Mitt Romney hit Texas Gov. Rick Perry for the Texas governor's past statements that Social Security may be unconstitutional and should be a state program.
As dual giant projector screens posed six questions directed to Perry -- about how Social Security would actually work at the state level -- Romney lambasted the idea, arguing that such a system would not work in "any way, shape or form"
The Perry campaign responded with this statement: “Mitt Romney's own book compared Social Security to a criminal enterprise. Now Mr. Romney is again sounding like a Democrat, distorting the truth and trying to scare senior citizens. As he has so many times in the past, Mr. Romney seems to forget he's a Republican."
Romney also used this appearance before a group of perhaps 70 voters (as well as a healthy number of reporters) to advance another major argument for his nomination: that he is the most electable candidate against President Obama.
Asked how he could help Senate candidates in addition to just campaigning for them, Romney replied, "I'm going to be the Republican candidate who can win, and I say that with significance," adding he believed that he could win over independent voters, women, and even some Democrats.
"President Obama is doing a great job of rallying our base," he said to laughter from the crowd. "There’s almost nothing we can do…that’s as motivational as what he’s doing to get our voters out and voting."
The former Massachusetts governor also said he would not be pushed to the right in a primary -- or to the center in a general election -- because he had mapped out his positions in his own recent book, and that those represent where he is.
"I think the American people recognize that we’re at a point of crisis and they want to hear the truth. And they can tell when people are being phony and are pandering to an audience, and you’ll see that in politics. You’re not going to see that in my campaign."
(Romney critics, however, argue that his chief weakness may very well be his ability to pander. He once supported abortion rights; he's now against them. He once supported embryonic stem-cell research; now he's against it. He once called his Massachusetts health-care law a model for the country; now he wants to repeal a federal law based largely on his state law.)
When a reporter asked Romney after the event who he felt was being a phony, exactly, he declined to name names.
Romney took a few questions from the audience pertaining to local issues like immigration and the United States' relationship with Latin America, which he said he hopes to strengthen by appointing a presidential envoy to take responsibility for the region.
On immigration, Romney again criticized Perry by name -- for the Texas governor's opposition to a full-border fence, the Arizona immigration law, and for creating a "magnet" for illegal immigrants by allowing in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants in Texas.
For his part, Romney theorized that using a point system similar to those used in other countries to determine who can immigrate here legally might be one way to reform the system of legal immigration.
Asked by NBC after the event if his criticisms of the President's policies on Israel were appropriate given the sensitivity of ongoing negotiations at the United Nations today, Romney expanded upon his original remarks.
"I think what the president did was an error with regards to Israel was begin dictating what he would do saying here you should do this and you should that. Those kinds of discussions should be held behind closed doors," Romney said. "The president should not be negotiating for his ally Israel. The president should stand behind Israel and negotiations and discussions should be held in private if the president has a different view than they do."
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BIG DEAL...
This comes as a surprise?
Willard will say anything to any crowd at any time for political expedience...
Meanwhile, where's Bachmann today?
At a cheese plant perhaps, cutting some cheese?
Much more impressive then the dry erase board used my the MN wild ding bat...
Ain't technology grand?
I'm with Feisty on this. Big Deal.
Solyndra Chiefs taking the 5th
Lighthouse Squared 2nd witness says they were "given Testimony Guidance"
Fast and Furious
Dems going to Primary Obama
2012 Budget??????
Don't any of these Political stories meet the laugh test for First Read, or are sick dogs and who's having dinner with who what we can look forward to from now on?
"Ain't technology grand?"
Ohhh Ohhh! Where ya been?? Oooo Ooooo....Where you been, where you been Oooh- Where have you been?? Where....
(sorry- just thought I could save some nitwits and busy-bodies some time and effort.....)
Both of these know nothings are trying to walk away from their unsaid 'privatization/personal bank accounts/wall street' handling of Social Security.
They do know that is a loser!
So, they try to ding each other up when they have both articulated the same message!
Stiff Collar
Fast and Furious
Dems going to Primary Obama
2012 Budget??????
No one is going to primay the President. That would be political suicide for democrats. We don't want another plotocratic Republican in the White house. Hell, neither do many republicans for that matter.
You know what's Fast and Furious? Darell Issa is running Out of excuses, Issa contradicts himself in avoiding NewsCorp
Darrell Issa doesn't seem to know if he's coming or going these days, and now he's confused about whether or not his refusal to investigate the billion dollar NewsCorp scandal is influenced by knowing Rupert Murdoch personally.
His final excuse, that he won't investigate since the Justice Department has launched a probe is also absurd stacked against Issa's track record. He's continued to press on the Fast & Furious issue during an ongoing federal criminal case, even disclosing sealed documents from the investigation, violating a court order. And in his ongoing attempts to undermine the NLRB/Boeing case, he's repeatedly sought to make documents public that a judge had ruled should not be disclosed to Boeing. Heck, he's continuing to chase after Solyndra even though the House Energy Committee is already investigating. So we know Issa has no qualms about mounting his own investigations if they're redundant or even outright dangerous to other official probes -- he does it all the time.
http://issaexposed.couragecampaign.org/index.php/page/258
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Firebagger Arianna should really tell her buddy, Darrel Issa, to stop lying.
http://planetpov.com/2011/01/19/why-buy-the-cow-when-you-can-get-the-milk-for-free/
Don't any of these Political stories meet the laugh test for First Read, or are sick dogs and who's having dinner with who what we can look forward to from now on?
This is like our date night,” Michelle Obama said. She thanked organizers for the “intimate” 400-person dinner, at which singer Alicia Keys performed for donors who anted up at least $2,500 each. “
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Speaking of Perry...
Texas will execute one of those convicted of brutally murdering James Byrd, Jr.
Russell Brewer, convicted in Byrd's horrible death, is scheduled to die today as punishment for his despicable crime.
Hey...
Maybe MSNBC host Al Sharpton should protest the death penalty by doing a remote broadcast from Texas!
Oh wait...
He's already protesting the execution of a convicted cop-killer in Georgia?
Oh well...next time.
This is a matter of a black pot calling the kettle blacker than black. This is a matter of being on record by writing books to further enrich oneself and then having to defend it. Both Romney and Perry have a record, in which both flip-flopped in extreme ways, whether pro-choice or supporting Al Gore as a Democrat--Come on people.
Romney wins because he has actually come out with plans and in this case a point by point presentation -- Keeping in mind that as a corporate raider, Romney learned about business plans and board room presentations. The day Perry could do anything other than parrot squawking points is the day pigs will fly.
But ultimately this is about choices. Do the American people agree with the GOP/TP who have always been against safety nets per the social contract, or do the American people agree with Democrats who initiated and continue to protect programs like Social Security? Voters can choose between an American Nightmare or the American Dream. Romney versus Perry are just gradients of black in the American Nightmare.
Hey ho, here we go [again] - who's ready for some QE3.
Say Fiesty, Bev. Drive By or Chilled I don't suppose any of you all could explain to us dumb conservatives how this will work, or how come we need a QE3, since we already did the QE1 and QE2 thing-ies?
Also anyone one of you know when Obama will actually put the "Buffet Rule" on paper. I just love to see the actual law.
Come to think of it, any of you seen the actual Jobs bill?
Although I'm not necessarily a fan of the death penalty....some acts deserve special treatment since our criminal justice system when it issues the 'life' sentence, does not always follow through because of whatever technicality.
...but, closing Gitmo....send the detainees to Texas.....Done!
Notches in Slick Ricks chamber of death would go up significantly and the crowd could cheer!
Spanky I agree QE3 is a terrible idea, most of QE2 got funneled into bailing out European banks, all of QE3 will go there apparently, but President Obama has no control over the FED, the FED takes it's orders from the Worlds wealthy elite who would rather have the taxpaying masses pay for their mistakes rather than shoulder that responsibility themselves.
Mixed Bag - It's no joke to execute a person that might be innocent....rule of thumb should be if there's even a sliver of a doubt you should not take someone's life. I've never seen a bunch of so called human's that are so blood thirsty as the conservatives are. They don't care if someone's innocent or guilty as long as there's a body to execute....they'll do it. To them that's justification enough. I suppose you fall into that category. Let me give you a piece of information that you may or may not know.....just because someone is found guilty doesn't necessarily mean they ARE guilty. There are many innocent people behind bars for crimes they didn't commit and some innocent people have been put to death who were later found to be innocent. So don't be so smug in your zealotry to kill people. It doesn't make you better than anyone else just less evolved.
Laurie, can you provide the list of names of people who have been put to death who were later adjudicated as having been found innocent. I didnt think there was a single instance but if wrong I would like to know.
You're right, laurie.
Two men were murdered.
That's not funny.
Two different juries found a man guilty in each case.
They listened to the testimony and the evidence in each case.
Neither of us did.
And...I haven't killed anyone, nor has anyone convicted me of doing so.
I sure hope all Al Sharpton comes around if I do.
Although, I sincerely doubt he'd bother with me.
True Patriot--you always say the most outlandish things and never respond after having been proven wrong such as you dont understand why anyone would state that Obamacare is hurting businesses today when it doesnt go into effect until 2013 or later. We prove you wrong and you keep saying it. Now you state that the GOP has always been against the safety nets per social contract. Given that I know of no GOP candidate or congressional bill that would cut a safety net program let along abolish any, could you provide some evidence? Reducing the rate of growth (80% over the last three years) is not even close to being against them. Why do you state such obvious lies and misrepresentation as that just reduces any credibility you may have in terms of discussing the programs or issues?
Spanky-"Come to think of it, any of you seen the actual Jobs bill.?"
Last time I checked the Constitution thingy..It is the House that is responsible for introducing appropriations legislation. Being the legal scholar you are though, you knew that didn't you?
As far as QE3 is concerned..Might make the monwey we owe the Chinese a lot cheaper..What say?
"The Buffet Rule" – It's brilliant! The Teapublicans are trying to spin this as a tax hike on "ordinary Americans" -- again. Hahahaha, as if Million Dollar Babies like Bill O'Really and Sean Insanity are ordinary Americans. Both are in the richest 1%, but hey, they may "pack it in" if they are subjected to the "oppressive" tax rates of the Clinton era. Riiiight.
McConnell & Co. saying Buffet should just mail in a check -- Are people really that dense? This is about fair taxation. It's about ALL investment bankers sending in their fair share. It's about the hedge fund managers paying taxes on those huge bonuses they received after the taxpayers bailed out their sorry arses. It's about folks on Wall Street paying to fix the mess they made.
The trap has been set -- The payroll-tax cuts, incentives to hire, breaks in capital investments… If Teapublicans vote no, or don't bring it to a vote, it will be another campaign ad Dems can run against them. In addition to the Paul Ryan plan, candidates raising their hands against a 10 to 1 (e.g., $10 in spending cuts to $1 dollar in revenue) proposal, who knows what other gaffes they will make between now and 2012.
Stop the Middle Class Massacre now. The Buffet Rule rules!
Laurie: I've never seen a bunch of so called human's that are so blood thirsty as the conservatives are.
Except for that bunch of blood thirsty liberals that like to kill babies, eh? What exactly were they convicted of?
Torpedo - When the Pres stands up and says over and over "Pass this Bill" He is implying that there is a bill to pass, or is he just campaigning to the masses who don't know any better?
As usual, dude had no real plan, just another speech. Can't wait for the next one.
True Patriot, so your advocating an increase to capital gains and dividends tax correct? Because what is fair share? Are you saying that they should be paying more than 50% of their income in federal and state income tax because thats what they will be paying along with the new Obamacare tax and payroll taxes? You dont think thats fair enough yet? The total hedge fund bill will raise $13 billion over 10 years so obviously the hedge fund guys arent really that big of an issue--just more pandering by Obama.
Please explain the middle class massacre? Explain to me how that works and how they are getting impacted since they are paying very little actual tax?
Not True..White Collar..He did submit a bill to the house which is very unusual for the executive branch. Again..Appropriation Bills are the responsibility of House NOT the executive. Lastly, since you conservatives ran on creating jobs, we are now 10 months into your term..nearly or 2/5ths..Where are the jobs? Not one Jobs Bill has crossed Obama's desk.
You people would rather waste time manufacturing issues like the debt ceiling fiasco rather than helping your fellow Americans find work...
The clock is ticking and the American people are getting wise to your obstructionism.
While these two duke it out let us not forget that in 2006, RGA, under Romney, handed Perry half million dollars for his reelection campaign as Governor. So they are friends.
Kirk, seriously you expect TruePatriot to explain himself?
Ain't goona happen, as it happens he cannot. Particularly on a tax issue.
But don't be too hard on our pal TruePartriot - Obama couldn't explain it either.
Funny thing is one of them understand how or why tax free municipal bonds work. Funny part is the thing that seems to confuse them is the first two words - "tax free."
Again, we will never, ever see an actual "buffett Rule." They are simply incapable.
Thing is, I think Buffett knows that, Obama and TruePatriot not so much.
Kirk and the punk that stunk -- I don't feed trolls, I don't reply to attention seekers, and I don't waste BTUs on endless volleys with posters who couldn't prove their way out of a paper bag.
My one reply is I support Jan Schakowsky's tax plan--look it up yourself. And the rest of the answers are in the president's jobs plan, which is estimated to increase GDP by 1.3 to 2 percent, decrease unemployment by a point, maybe more, and give "ordinary Americans" about $1,500 in tax cuts that they can spend (create demand), as well as the president's deficit reduction plan.
Whether you like my positions or not, I don't care. To quote FDR: "I welcome your hatred."
The GOP/TP has become so intolerant a conservative like Lamar Alexander is stepping down from a leadership position. The Party of Haters is growing smaller and smaller.
White Collar -- The "Pres" is using "low-information voter speak" (see, it got your attention) and following Dubya's advice: "You Have To Keep Repeating Things To Catapult The Propaganda."
TruePatriot,
Not sure I detected anything that resembled hatred in Kirk's very reasonable questions.
Well there it is - TruePatriot has let us all in on why Obama said "we have to pass this bill" 17 times.
Too bad the dems, and particularly the dems in the senate are so "low-information" they still have not gotten it.
Oh well. I just know that jobs plan is gonna hit the senate floor any day now, right True? Sure it is.
Mark in SoCal -- Where did I say that Kirk, specifically, was hateful?
The president has offered an olive branch to Teapublicans multiple times, and has gotten nothing in return for that effort, nothing but hate--no matter what he does. He may as well go for positions he and the majority of Americans believe in. He's not going to lose anything, in fact he will gain.
President Obama saying "I welcome your hate" to the far-right radicals is a better tactic. Most notably is how history repeats itself, as we see in that speech by FDR. Who will learn the lessons of history? Certainly not Romney, Perry, or any other conservative.
In the meantime, establishment Republicans are having to choose between leaving the Party or toeing an extremist line. The Tea Party are the same religious-right minority that has voted Republican for a long time. What is the GOP/TP doing to create a larger tent? Purity tests and pledges? Stomping someone's head at a protest? Cheering about a large number of executions? Talking about how they outnumber liberals and they have all the guns? Sounds like a Party of Haters to me.
TruePatriot,
- Whether you like my positions or not, I don't care. To quote FDR: "I welcome your hatred." -
Looks like you're calling your questioners hateful to me.
I could be wrong.
Mark in SoCal -- If they are a part of what FDR references, and are among those who hatePresident Obama and his supporters, than yes they are "hateful." I don't see what's so complicated about that, and actually you are making my point about wasting BTUs on endless volleys about nothing.
I could be wrong, but this may be why nothing gets done in this country -- All forms of obstructionism, nontroversies, distractions, that is what the GOP/TP is all about instead of cooperation, substance, and solutions.
True Patriot, not everyone hates Obama and disagreement over his financial policies doesnt constitute hatred. Just like people can disagree over capital punishment, abortion etc both sides of the argument are not practioners of hate. Many people hate Obama no different than many people hated Bush, Clinton etc but that is a small segment of the voters and many of us just disagree on policy. Asking you to prove out your embellishments or mischaracterizations or even inaccuracies doesnt make us hateful. In fact, I would say your views are hateful towards or at a minimum create an atmosphere conducive to hate. When you say things that are wrong we just ask you to prove your positions.
Kirk -- One complaint about radical Islam is that more moderate Muslims are not "policing" their ranks. Another example is when some far-left liberals wanted to make an issue of McCain being born in Panama, and the Dem leadership squashed it -- But later the far-right Birthers questioned President Obama (and apparently still do), and the Republican leadership only help fuel the fire. So when people shout "let him die" at a Republican debate, and not one candidate stepped up (i.e., showing real leadership) and stop the shouts, well we come full circle to the other thread and article about Sen. Alexander telling Perry to cool it.
You and so many others say you are not one of those Haters. Okay, then what you do to "police" those in your own ranks who are? Because I rarely see it if ever from the right-wing. And the old "two wrongs make a right" (excusing the Haters because they exist in both Parties) fallacious argumentation is not what I'm referencing. At one of the Tea Party protests, some liberals started chanting something, and the crowd started to beat the crap out of one of them, and a couple of guys broke it up--mostly to prevent bad press. But what would you do? Join the thugs, cheer the thugs, or stop the thugs?
So instead of defending what I suspect are intentional mistruths, you go completely off topic while also ignoring the substance of my response. There is no defense for any kind of violence but why single out a few tea party folks. The union violence is far worse and they arevall democrats are you asking them to police themselves? How about the Iraq war protectors tearing up Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis? They are all democratsv did you ask them to police themselves? Are you going to be consistent in your beliefs? Stop the hatred TP!
Stoping a senseless volley is what I'm doing Kirk. You proved my point on that one as well. Thanks for playing.
I guess I am waiting for somebody to clarify when changing views is being responsible, because experience has taught us that the viewpoint was in error and flawed, and when it is waffling on issues? I would hope that we can all learn and move forward and avoid continually making the same mistakes....If somebody can point out in a logical and well thought out way, why a given policy isn't working, then shouldn't we all be open to consider the other viewpoint. From most of the articles, and from most of the commentary.....it is considered "seeing the light" if it supports a personal theory or cause, but it is waffling if it doesn't.
That's a good question Sue.
I think Romney has gotten his flipflopper reputation due to the extremity of his change in viewpoint. That's a big shift, going from saying Social Security is a criminal enterprise, to saying it should be protected. It makes it look like he just takes a stand on an issue according to which audience he's talking to.
Sue...love the question. To me, if the person changes their position on something and gives good, well-thought out reasons for why they have changed their position on something, I think that is admirable. When someone changes position to something that is politically popular and gives no good, legitimate reasons, I see that as waffling, flip-flopping, etc.
Every one of us has at some point changed our mind on a particular issue. We've all had our reasons for doing so...and I don't think we are all "wafflers" for doing it.
Great question Sue...thanks for posting it! :-)
After Paul Ryan's plan to privatize Medicare to give more tax breaks to the rich, which would cost seniors an estimated $6,000 a year out-of-pocket, I'm amazed any of these GOP/TP candidates can get any number of seniors to attend a speech without getting pummeled with spoiled produce.
Unfortunately, the right-wing propaganda machine is very effective. My mother on Social Security believed it was President Obama who was going to try to withhold her SS checks. She does not believe it was the Tea Party desire to default that held her checks hostage. Even now with consensus and S&P saying the downgrade was due most of all to the GOP/TP, my mother thinks the president was responsible -- Not even congress, but the president.
I asked her who initiated Social Security and who has protected Social Security and Medicare, and why would she think a "socialist" president would want to stop her SS check? And still she can't process that information. She tunes into FOX and will believe a viral Email before believing an expert, or facts--she is a low-information voter bordering on senility. Maybe that's why some seniors still support Teapublicans? Great.
If the GOP/TP isn't scaring seniors, they are definitely taking advantage of them, which is even worse.
True Patriot - My parents are the same way. They are both in their 80's and keep Fox News on 24/7. They believe all the crap that's fed to them and think the Democrats are going to take their Medicare and Social Security away from them. It's amazing to me how seniors believe this nonsense. I try to tell my parents the true facts but they have been made so fearful of Democrats by Fox News they believe them to be their enemy. How ironic is that?
But Laurie, your willing to believe the silly crap fed to you by True Patriot. None of what he said above about the GOP is accurate either. No GOP candidate is trying to take anyone's social security or medicare from them in fact wouldnt you say that the deficit spending from the democrats put social security more at issue of getting paid as the government runs out of money than anything the GOP is proposing. Further what True Patriot said about Ryan's plan is pure BS and he knows it so he is spreading the same lies. Ryans plan wouldnt have impacted a single person over 50 let alone current seniors so its always amazing to me that people like you believe the crap he says.
laurie -- Microsoft did not become a monopoly with "best of class" applications, rather with the best marketing or "strategery." The Dems need to learn "low-information voter speak" and find ways to reach those voters. Looks like Karl Rove is kind of helping Dems with that, eh?
Kirk -- You couldn't prove your way out of a paper bag, about the Affordable Care Act (insurance regulation), or how the GOP/TP has not? been against entitlements since the day one of the New Deal (riiiight), or deficit spending like unnecessary wars, or any other topic. Homey don't play that silly game.
True Patriot, that was a silly response, I have proven my way out of the stuff you say. I never defended unnecessary wars nor is it responsive to your statements. Obamacare does increase the cost to employers for health care NOW and I have proven it and the GOP isnt against entitlements nor safety nets so its really your burden to prove your statements isnt it?
Keep up the good work Mitt.
Now the question becomes what will Mitt do for his fellow citizens and country? Gosh, I sure hope it won't be selling America to foreign countries.
Mitt the way FOX tells it the President dissed BIBI. So which is it; behind closed doors or not at all?
Interesting that Perry accuses Romney of "distorting the truth" when Romney is using direct quotes, but then Perry really does distort the truth when he takes a shot back at Romney but fails to use a direct quote, framing Romney's supposed remarks himself instead. Look for the "quote marks". Very telling.
I think what the president did was an error with regards to Israel was begin dictating what he would do saying here you should do this and you should that. Those kinds of discussions should be held behind closed doors," Romney said. "The president should not be negotiating for his ally Israel. The president should stand behind Israel and negotiations and discussions should be held in private if the president has a different view than they do." Romney
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Actually Romney, the last time President Obama met with Netanyahu behind closed doors, they agreed on most things. Then Netanyahu went in front of the press and lied about what they had talked about. He lied about what they had agreed on, behind closed doors.
A few weeks ago President Obama helped Netanyahu when the Israeli embassy was attacked in Cairo. Netanhayu was grateful for our help. Grateful for President Obama's help. Extremely grateful.
One thing I notice with Republicans is that they want to stick with the same worn out policies that don't work. The entire world wants to see peace between Israel and the Palestinians. The entire world.
Where is the creativity with the Republicans? They never ever change their talking points. Year after year after year.
Well folks, it's not working.
btw, President Obama's speech today was very well received. He is without a doubt a world leader and someone I am extremely proud of as our President.
Such nonsense the President has to deal with. Such utter nonsense. Sometimes I don't think of him as President of the United States.
I often think of him as President of an Insane Asylum.
Romney, Perry, both Pauls (father and son), Boehner, Cantor, Bachmann, McConnell, Walsh, the left, the right. Cable tv.
I don't know how he does it.
"The former Massachusetts governor also said he would not be pushed to the right in a primary -- or to the center in a general election -- because he had mapped out his positions in his own recent book, and that those represent where he is.
"I think the American people recognize that we’re at a point of crisis and they want to hear the truth. And they can tell when people are being phony and are pandering to an audience, and you’ll see that in politics. You’re not going to see that in my campaign."
But we have seen it, over and over. Now we're supposed to buy his book to see "where he's at" in his positions? We understand that Gov. Romney desperately wants to be President. We understand that he "loves" his version of what our country is. We understand that he thinks he is terribly clever and an economic wizard.... and yet, we are unmoved. 1) Why has he signed up two of President George W. Bush's economic advisers? That sounds like a return to what started the economic crisis. 2) What role will women have in Romney's world? 3) During Romney's four magical years as governor, which other governors was he closest to? One of his political liabilities is that he has no associates (no tres amigos a la Sen. McCain), so how does he think he will be able to pull any weight in Washington, D.C.? (I know, I know, he reached out to Sen. Blunt).
Great post kate. Also, the media tries to portray Romney as a moderate.
He's not. He just looks it compared to the others. He would be the working class's biggest nightmare if he were to win.
Nice to see Elizabeth Warren gaining traction up here. She is awesome.
"(Romney critics, however, argue that his chief weakness may very well be his ability to pander.)"
The MSNBC liberal journalists, er, JournO lists, cant help themselves and always have to insert the talking points they get from their pals at Obama campaign HQ...
By contrast, Obama's speeches are never subjected to such snark...
Romney's core convictions and principles remind me of the weather here in Missouri, if you don't like it today never fear because it will be different tomorrow.
"By contrast, Obama's speeches are never subjected to such snark..."
Bob, I am voting your post as being the post most full of crap. It seems you think every channel should reflect your hatred for President Obama or you resort to whining. While you well know that 24/7 bashing of our president is the favorite hobby at faux. And your vision of fair is that every channel should treat our President as badly as faux.
Americans First, are you kidding me? Do you realize all the pandering Obama did as candidate and continues to do as President? Remember the candidate promising transparency, closing Gitmo, stopping renditions and the non stop pandering to trial lawyers, unions, environmental groups and now as president the non stop pandering to all of his hopeful voting constituents especially latinos and white middle class with the class warfare tax speeches which he has to know is just politics.
Okay, Kirk you know how to change the subject.
How about one of my favorites of your glaring lies is the one about GITMO. It was the republicans that voted (you know voted in congress) to keep GITMO open against the wishes of our president.
You act like we elected a king, not a president.
So now you make it President Obama's fault why GITMO is still open and nary a mention of the republicans in congress who actually kept it open.
Americans First--your looking at it from the wrong perspective. Advocacy for a certain political position, issue or financial policy comes in different forms. Maybe I was mistaken, but I thought you were trying to indicate that Obama doesnt pander to political groups or constituencies for votes. All politicians do it and criticizing Perry or Romney is a useless exercise because they all do it. Of course Obama does it and I am not criticizing him for it. Its part of politics but I am just saying that I didnt understand your defense of Obama for it. No the President isnt King thank goodness
Kirk, I never said a word about pandering. That is your baby.
I noticed that you didn't mention GITMO again and that now I am looking from the wrong perspective. I get it any perspective but your is the wrong one.
OMG, I have been wrong. You made me see the light. Let's destroy American for the rich just like the republicans want.
What about Gitmo, Obama never wanted to close it regardless of pandering for a base that at the time he knew wasnt going to get passed. He has adopted most of Bush's terrorist policies because he knew they worked--Good for him. I am not trying to get you to see the light because its likely that neither one of us will change our minds but saying that I have the wrong perspective is just an opinion just as if I said yours was. Opinions are never wrong--facts are. You may think that the GOP perspective is wrong, I get that but their intention is certainly not to destroy America for the benefit of the rich, they just think making a better america is accomplished in a different manner than the current Obama proposals. So far they have been more right than wrong but they certainly dont have a lock on all right positions nor does the democrats. Not sure the original intent of your post then if you think my perspective is the wrong one.
Americans First -- Conservatives are like a black hole sucking in everything, absorbing all light from the horizon. Don't be drawn in. They are hoping everything will be so muddied by election day that people will forget to vote.
The only thing Romney has going for him is the big money Republican establishment thinks that he is "their" man, for now anyway. If Perry can get some of that support Romney has nothing. Personally I think Romney is one repulsive dude, he posses every negative trait a politician can have, every trait that makes people loath politicians in general, and let's face it Perry is much more entertaining, he's a blast to watch because you never know what he's going to blurt out, I would hate to be one of his handlers, bet they slam down a lot of whiskey before the good Gubner takes the stage.
The video of Romney arguing that "corporations are people too!" really turned me off. Comments like that make me wonder if he is a serious person.
The average CEO makes three hundred times the amount his or her average worker makes, yeah, they're "people too" - overpaid people.
No surprise, since Amy still believes Carter was a great president.
Ah, if only these were "malasie" days. Sadly these are far worse.
And somewhere Jimmy smiles...
Yeah Amy CEO's are people.
With Families and kids and ball games and church and charity.
People who for the most part have worked very hard and sacrificed a lot to get where they are. Most also happen to be pretty smart.
Why do you despise people who have worked hard and really made it in life?
Why do seem to only want to judge a person by how much money they make?
Would taking more of their money and giving it to the Government make your life any better?
Oh yeah, Spanky, Last week Amy mentioned she had several people on ignore now, NJ, JAS1 and I am pretty sure you. She is still deciding about me, I guess.
Know that hurts, what with the crush you have and all.
He's had a great 21st Century, going from "worst president in my life" to 3rd...and how can you criticize anyone named "Amy" for supporting President Carter?
(It COULD be HER!)
He's had a great 21st Century, going from "worst president in my life" to 3rd
That's funny.
DF - How was Steely Dan? One of my all time favorites. Saw them at the Palace in Detroit about 15 years ago. They were trying some new kind of show and didn't play any of their old stuff. Actually got booed. I was so disappointed we left early. Later I heard that they tossed that concert format out.
Wore out AJA side 1. Black Cow, AJA, Deacon Blues. Good stuff.
It was a great weekend! The Best night was when they did "The Royal Scam"...many of the original studio musicians and what a horn section!
As a polar opposite to the show you saw-the last night was actually "request night"!
As a long time fan, it was a truly unforgettable experience...
I won AJA on a radio contest when I was going to Stony Brook about a hundred years ago...
"I take one last drag as I approach the stand..."
Oh man, Request night? Now I'm really jealous.
Glad you had a great time.
'They call Alabama the Crimson Tide, call me Deacon Blue'
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People here are expressing their know it all, some just being the average lay person and letting their thoughts be expressed -to perhaps like ears. STOP, wasting energy on deaf ears, and giving energy to people that have nothing good to offer. Listen no one that wants to be President is going to tell people the truth.
Thomas Kipley DuGan said; 'Tell people the biggest lie, and people will go for it -without question. Tell people a small lie and they will become suspicious. Tell people the TRUTH and you will wonder where people went -you definitely be standing alone. LOOK folks, there is a man that is worth your ear and more. He is now going to campaign for our President. He is new, he is different. GO to facebook.com THOMAS KIPLEY DUGAN 122 Listen carefully, and know he has only expressed a 1000th of his knowledge.
Jack-
Good luck to him!
Of course, It would help if you were grammatically uh, COHERENT, as you have this guy campaigning for "our president", which translates in English to;
"He's campaigning for President Obama"
Otherwise...GO "People's Party" candidate!
But...that sorta sounds like he's running for President in a communist country though, doesn't it?