Benjamin Netanyahu: President Obama deserves 'badge of honor'

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Take that FOX NOISE ECHO CHAMBER & Gov. Killer- In- Chief Rick Perry. The Killer- In- Chief Gov. Rick Perry has no bona fides or foreign experience.

He is a "Fake" just like dumbazz Bachmann & Palin.

Shhh....We can't use the 'C' word!

Tea Peoples' heads are exploding!

Oabma is absolutely right.

Too bad Iran, Humas, and essentially the rest of the arab world wants to see Israel wiped off the face to the planet.

Kind of hard to compromise with that.

I like the "Gov. Killer-in-chief" moniker Bev. But I don't suppose you can provide us Obama's "bona fides or foreign experience?"

And since Obama has no "bona dides or foreign experience" he also must be a "Fake" correct?

Goose and gander, right Bev.

Now hit me with a new Bevism.

Obama supports the death penalty; is he the "President killer in chief"?

This was an honest speech given by President Obama. He obviously wants to see peace come from all sides. But ultimately only they themselves can reach it.

We here in America can only do so much. We are well aware of the history of the Jews. It's an incredibly sad history. But we are now seeing the treatment of the Palestinians by Israel. They are willing to suppress the Palestinians in order for Israel to survive.

This can't happen. Jews were suppressed throughout their history. Surely they can bring something to the Palestinians so that all can live in peace?

How would the Jews have liked the world to react when there were blind eyes going on all across Europe in the '30's and '40's? What went wrong?

Perhaps they can take the lessons learned and apply it to the Palestinians? Can we for once learn from history? Israel can/should play a major role in this.

Anyway, again, wonderful speech by President Obama. It's all I would have liked him to say as an American.

More "deep"analysis from the Spankster. How bout this background for ya:

"Palestine" was a creation of the British when they took over the region from the Ottomans after the First World War. The "Palestinians" in the West bank are Jordanians (another invention of the British), and those in Gaza are Egyptians. I don't see anyone clamoring for Jordan or Egypt to take back their citizens.

The "Palestinian" cause predates the 1967 war, even prior to the annexation of Gaza and the West Bank by Israel. The Arabs want Israel gone; the Palestinian's plight is simply a convenient excuse. There has been a Jewish presence in Israel for 3500 years- the Muslims haven't been around for half that long:

1. The Romans took Israel from the Jews.
2. the Byzantines (Western Romans) inherited it.
3. The Caliphate Arabs took it from them when they waged Jihad across the Middle East and Northern Africa in the 8th century).
4. The Seljuk Turks, and then the Ottomans took it from them.
5. And finally, the British took it after WWI, splitting the area into 2 parts- Palestine, and Transjordan, with Palestine further divided by the UN partition into the Jewish state of Israel, and the West Bank (which became part of Jordan, along with Transjordan.

The Arabs response to the partition, 20 years before the West Bank and Gaza were issues, was an attempt at annihilation of the Jewish state- and so far, 63 years later, only Egypt and Jordan, the 2 countries who lost the territory disputed by the Palestinians (only Syria gripes about the Golan), are the only ones who have normal diplomatic relations with Israel and recognize Israel's right to exist. Odd, no?

We don't see Israeli Jews who were thrown out of Iraq, Iran, Syria asking for their land, (right of return) homes, businesses, etc back (about 800,000 of them). Perhaps those countries should give the Jews former properties to the "Palestinians", and call it square?

I understand that many believe that the oppressed have become the oppressors'. Can you blame them given the history of the region, the Churches' and Islams' treatment of them over the last five hundred years and their legitimate security concerns after seeing their loved ones blown up by suicide bombers. Context is everything since Israel is a small country. The loss of 30 people there is the equivalent to a 9-11 here.

The sad fact is that other faiths would not have had any access to their shrines if they were under control of the Palestinians. You have only to look at desecration of your holy places throughout the Muslim world for the answer to that question.

All this being said, the current policy of ALL American administrations has been to facilitate the peace process. I find nothing inconsistent in Obama's remarks to the UN today.

Thanks for usual display of ignorance Spankster!

You are totally welcome Torpedo.

And it's ok I know one of these days you will find the right side of the bed and thus not be so grumpy.

See Torpedo if you weren't such a grumpy pants you would have read the very first sentenceof my post - you know where I said Obama is correct? Bad grumpy pants.

But maybe you can tell us Mr. Grumpy Torpedo - how does Israel compromise with people that seek their eradication?

Fiesty says all negotiations require a give and take. So would the wiping of the planet of Israel be the give of the take?

Oh and how about Obama's "bona fides?" You think he's got the right knowlegede skill and training?

Truth always hurt whenever spoken. Leave and let's leave is simply, COMPROMISE. Spinners and liars, get to work.

ILMAO

Truth always hurt whenever spoken. Live and let's live is simply, COMPROMISE. Spinners and liars, get to work.

Spanky-

Oabma is absolutely right.

Too bad Iran, Humas, and essentially the rest of the arab world wants to see Israel wiped off the face to the planet.

Kind of hard to compromise with that.

Especially, when Ahmadinejad words are taken out of context; Spanky

The FULL UNEDITED version was shown on C-SPAN.

Ahmadinejad DID NOT threaten to "wipe Israel off the map."

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"

PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD: I think that the Israeli government is a fabricated government and I have talked about the solution. The solution is democracy. We have said allow Palestinian people to participate in a free and fair referendum to express their views. What we are saying only serves the cause of durable peace. We want durable peace in that part of the world. A durable peace will only come about with once the views of the people are met.

Spanky-

As we see the MSM lies, exaggerates and sensationalizes about President Obama. So why would they not allow this fear mongering fit their narrative? I trust you can have your "johnny on the spot ambulance chasing team" track down the CNN tape.

Besides, the neo-cons are looking for a reason to bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran

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I like the "Gov. Killer-in-chief" moniker Bev. But I don't suppose you can provide us Obama's "bona fides or foreign experience?"

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Spanky-

You can start with the Somali pirates. The President got bin Laden and the hikers are coming home. How's that for bona fides & foreign experience?

I'm sure the FOX ECHO CHAMBER will find a way to spin this in order to bash President Obama though.

You tell 'em Bev!

Like you said earlier - They (the Jews) should just go back to where they came from!

Right?

SPANKY

Israel's got no choice other than to compromise or else they'll never know what peace is like and it both sides. And more dangerous is when Arab population moving into Israel to live swells to a point where they can cause Israel more harm. Both sides most give to live. Politicians and are the one delaying the inevitable.

Commendable effort from the President. All too often we hear of rifts between the relationship of Israel and the US of A. Sometimes it is nothing other than media and blog driven as in this case. Much work to be done yet. May they all find Peace soon.

White Collar Auto

Like you said earlier - They (the Jews) should just go back to where they came from!

Right?

Actually, Stiff Collar that would be their choice. But, in the mean time they could stop building settlements on other people's land, bombing Arabs, and allow the Palestinians to come their work in Jerusalem.

Palestinian ‘ghosts’ keep the Israeli economy moving

http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/palestinian-ghosts-keep-the-israeli-economy-moving/

Personally, I do think they would not be as crowded and thwarted if they did go back to their homelands in Europe.

I also believe in a peaceful co-existence.

It was good to hear the President clarify his views on Israel for his constituents in NY-9 and elsewhere.

I guess some haven't exactly been reassured by the Obama Administration with regard to Israel.

I don't know about you guys...but, I feel better.

For the moment.

That is...a New York minute.

lol

Bev-

You simply can't be THAT clueless.

On the other hand...

MB

I see you've been positively consistent in your review of Obama on Foreign policies. How come the rest of the right don't see what you see......though, they're entitled to their opinions, I believe they've been wrong in their assessment of his ideas and accomplishments.

Torpedo You - You have the history down pretty good as far as Israel and the region goes. I see that your pro-Israel in your descriptions. That's refreshing. The story alludes to the fact that Obama will veto the Palestinian issue, but I'll reserve judgement until that actually happens. You have to know he will stick his wet finger up in the air until the last moment before making the call.

Obama isn't pro-Israel at heart. Right now, he's working the political angles since he really pissed off the American voting Jews... He's trying to win back their votes, but I think he wants to be a part of history at the same time by not vetoing it. I may be wrong and the veto will come out, but I know Obama is salivating about this.

Let history be the guide.

I strongly recommend everyone look up 'Black September in Jordan'

That's where the King of Jordan totally offered the Palestinians to join his kingdom, when Jordan still owned the West Bank.

His only real requirements were 'Don't pick fights, don't march around in uniforms holding guns, don't steal from my people.'

Notice how the palestinians are no longer in Jordan?

I'll tell the non-politically correct truth.

The palestinians had what they wanted, inclusion in a government, and threw it away to pick a war with Israel anyways.

Let them twist in the wind. They'll be a footnote in history.

fiesty - lmao when you say....

All negotiations REQUIRE some give & take no matter what the GNOP believes

Kind of like the give and take obama presents as he says..."you should pass this right away" or to paraphrase what obama said this past monday. "I will veto any bill given to me that does not increase taxes on the wealthy and corporations more"

Sounds like obama has thrown compromise under the bus.

cool bev you quote...

The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time

Since a regime is just another word for government what would israel really be without a government?

Come on bev, words have meaning. There would be no israel without government. The same holds true for any country. Remove the government you have removed the country, regardless of whether or not the people remain in place or the country clings to its old moniker.

Bev - You can start with the Somali pirates. The President got bin Laden and the hikers are coming home. How's that for bona fides & foreign experience?

Somali Pirates - Are you talking about the ones that are still active in the waters off Somalia and have made over 21 attempted/successful attempts so far this year?

The President got bin Laden - I though it was the SEAL team that got him.

Hikers coming home - and what exactly did Obama do? They were freed because the Oman paid the $1,000,000 bail. Did Obama tell the Oman to do that?

Thanks, PEN-24.

I call 'em as I see 'em.

Many don't have your appreciation of subtlety.

Or...

What passes for subtlety here at First Read.

Not a fan of alleged adults tossing out the zingers 'stupid', 'dumb', 'clueless' and the like?

Or showing they can use ctrl+c and ctrl+v in tandem? Cuz that's pretty sweet, too :)

Now Folks, lighten up on Bev.

MB you know that she is.

Bev at least tells us what she feels, doesn't care how wrong she is and makes her points(?) in such an amusing way, that it is fun having her around.

Don't go trying to scare her away, although I am pretty sure that would be impossible.

Cause one last thing about Bev. She is one tough cookie.

Obama to the UN: "Peace is hard"

President'n is hard too, right Obama?

Now run off and go threaten a veto or something.

JoAnnaSmith1

So, that's what your able to take away from the Presidents address to the UN? Hard enough is trying to understand how you get to your thoughts. Pathetic as always.

John, Tucson, AZ

Somali Pirates - Are you talking about the ones that are still active in the waters off Somalia and have made over 21 attempted/successful attempts so far this year?

The President got bin Laden - I though it was the SEAL team that got him.

Hikers coming home - and what exactly did Obama do? They were freed because the Oman paid the $1,000,000 bail. Did Obama tell the Oman to do that?

Hey John you are a hater and will never see the President in a positive light. You live in a state of denial, Arizona, where the tea is hallucinogenic.

@White Collar Auto

Don't go trying to scare her away, although I am pretty sure that would be impossible.

Cause one last thing about Bev. She is one tough cookie.

White Collar thanks for the kudos. I don't think I should go anywhere either. I believe since I was here before the paid trolls began to emigrate I have just a much right to stay as the trolls.

They like my feeding them.

So, that's what your able to take away from the Presidents address to the UN? Hard enough is trying to understand how you get to your thoughts. Pathetic as always.

The view is pretty good from the cheap seats.

Spanky: I don't suppose you can provide us Obama's "bona fides or foreign experience?"

- Lived, worked and studied overseas.

- Member of the U.S. Congress where he helped deal with foreign policy issues.

- President of the United States where he crafted and implemented foreign policy.

I know you will contest each of these, Spanky. Perry, however, doesn't have even this.

Spanky-

I like the "Gov. Killer-in-chief" moniker Bev. But I don't suppose you can provide us Obama's "bona fides or foreign experience?"

President/Commander-in-Chief of the most powerful nation on this planet.

Bev-

There are paid bloggers at First Read?

Other than the Feisty Redhead?

You can document this?

I could kiss 'ya!

Names (and documentation) please.

Let's wait and see what comes before the security council and if a veto is in the cards. It is fair to say that any President would have made similar remarks in this scenario. One can argue about the politics behind Netanyahu and the Presidents relationship, and if it plays a role in US elections, but there is no indication the fundamental US foreign policy changed with regards to the Mideast peace process.

Fisty the leader of the great obstructionist party is doing the same thing to foreign policy as he did with the debt, Flip Flopping like a fish out of water. You know what fisty if he wouldn't make stupid statements like Israel moving back to the pre 1967 borders the Palestanians would not have thought they may have US backing for statehood. What a stupid statement for the supposed leader of the free world to make, stupid, stupid, stupid. Hey fisty I hear that 33% of the independant voters in Fl. haven't come to their senses and still approve of the job barry is doing, but an additional 20% who did vote for him in 08 have opened their eyes form the koolaide induced coma and now disapprove of his job performance. I guess someone in his cabinet told him what a negative impact he has on the markets when he speaks publicly so now he is speaking daily. I think we may have to burn the WH and rebuild before the next President moves in Jan. of 2013. I don't think barry should get a deposit back either.

Those same borders have been the same for each of the last three American Presidents and US foreign policy.

Obama's Chicagoland Democrat politicians know how to take care of the "average American"...the average American who is a union thug , that is...

23 retired union officials from Chicago stand to collect about $56 million from two ailing city pension funds , a Tribune/WGN-TV investigation found.

No one from either the state Legislature or city government will take credit for the law, which passed in 1991, and the process of drafting pension legislation in Springfield is so shrouded in secrecy that there's no way of knowing exactly whom to hold responsible...

Gee - I wasn't aware President Obama EVER held elected office in the city of Chicago!

*grasp meet straw* ;o)

Bob I gather you are not a big union supporter, so I suggest you seek employment in a non union environment, an environment where management can squeeze your guts out, fire you because you ain't a good republican like you otter be, an environment where they can yank your insurance and tell you to go to hell if you don't like it, no pension for you bob, that is reserved for "management" only, and bob you failed to make the cut, but hey you have a job at least, a job that doesn't pay enough to pay the bills, but hey a job none the less right bob, just don't get old or sick bob because then you will have to be kicked to the curb without explanation, as a matter of fact you can be kicked to the curb for any reason without any recourse. Yes you get that job in a good republican non-union environment bob because I for one say you most certainly deserve it. Have a great day.

I don't know what union you belonged to, but my husband has worked in union shops. It seems to be the dues were less than $10 a month. Which seems very palatable considering the alternative to not having unions.

Unions in general have never been the issue. Public sector unions, where one can receive legislative favor and return in kind with union backed campaign contributions is another matter.

Keep drinking the Obama koolaid...

Keep drinking the Obama koolaid...

Will do - I especially love the Cherry flavored! Mmmm Mmmm GOOD!

Meanwhile, you can continue to swill the hatoraide! It's doing wonders for your sunny disposition! ;o)

sorry bob, don't drink kool-aid...I just have abitlity to listen, analyze, evaluate and make decisions based on data driven research...you know?....the stuff GOP/TP runs from

So, over nine per cent unemployment means. . .what, exactly? That Obama is a rousing success?

Stagnant GDP another sign of his success?

The highest level of poverty in the 52 years Census has been tracking it is,what? Overwhelming success?

I guess if you are an Obama worshipper, you redefine success- to what the rest of us call abject failure.

Thank the lord there are so many fewer of you these days.

No joe, where would you be today if Bush and Chaney had a third term. Do you think you would be better off, remember where we were headed when Bush left office, Bank failures, Housing shot to hell, unemployment rising, Wall street taking everything and giving nothing. You keep your opinion just do not expect anyone else with half a brain to go there with you.

Gpotts - It is far easier for the goverrnment to increase revenue than it is to reduce spending. Unfortunately for UStaxpayers past politicians (LorR) have always looked at increased revenues as a means to spend even more than that being taken in.

The tea party sees a solution to this with an amendment requiring a balanced budget amendment.

Mainstream republicans now see it as to not raise taxes, but rduce spending to force a change in attitude about fiscal policy.

And obama and company still cling to the old school political thinking expressed by cheney as "deficits don't matter.

While a balanced budget requirement at the federal level will not functionally work because of exogenous events, a change in attitude and restructuring of our fiscal policies will.

The time has come when government needs to stop thinking that government applied $$$ is what will cure us. To date no government or FED plan has created anything but a painful recovery from the recession that ended in mid 2009.

Until fiscal government solvency returns, their will be many government sponsered programs that have to fall by the way side.

Tis, mute point, three terms are not allowed by the US constitution. Besides who really cares, It is reids senate, boehners house an obamas WH that matter today along with all policies still on the book today from past administartions and congresses as supported by the justice department and supreme court.

Feisty-- "koolade" reference is getting old, but love your "hatorade" reference! It describes the TP/GOP to a "tea" (pun intended)! Must be what the TP serves at their teaparties!

Must be what the TP serves at their teaparties!

Nothing but a bunch of turds floating in a punch bowl full of Lipton's.... ;o)

PS: From a PROUD kool-aide fan! lol

What an elliquent discriptive phrase from the Drama Queen of the Liberal sect.

Another poor little boy who's fibbing about having me on ignore... lol

Have you gotten the recipe's yet?

Spanky, who determines anyones bona fides in foreign affairs, who certified Bush in foreign affairs.

The same people who determine what is 'fair' when it comes to taxation?

Just a guess, there.

I think he's a myth. But if not, I totally want to meet the guy who was given the inexorable power by the Almighty to determine what is, and isn't, 'fair'.

Even my 3-year old thinks the 'Fairness Guy' is a myth(but santa and the easter bunny are legit, still) and has realized that it's not a real argument. It's an emotional tactic, not a logical one, since we've yet to meet the Fairness Guru.

So yeah. Anyone know where I can find the Fairness Guy and demand me some compensation for the unfairness life has forced me to deal with?

How bout the "Equality Guru" Tech? You might start with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights which are the foundations of our democracy. IE: Why do corporations enjoy certain advantages over private citizens?

Damn Torpedo, today was the day I thought you were actually going to figure out how to reply to the thread at issue.

Oh well maybe tomorrow.

So Torpedo, since I must have missed the foreign experience part of Obama's CV perhaps you can fill me in - what experience does he actually have?

So what exactly are obamas bonafides?

Was he ever an ambassador to a foreign post? CIA spy? Lived overseas for an extended period of time?

Was obama ever the CEO (governor) of a state? CEO of a multinational corporation? The majority leader of the US senate? What positions did he chair as the jr ranking senator from illinois up until jan 2008?

Was obama ever recognized as a leader in any extracurricular activities or even within the illinois senate?

If yes to any of the above, please do elaborate.

It is foolishness to think that any candidate for potus can lay claim to experience in all areas that a potus is likely to face.

Even FR has acknowledged that obama is no longer in a "governing mode" but a campaigning one. After all, it appears that campaigning is essentially all that he does appear to be good at.

american (sic), why don't you do some research before you start talking about things you obviously know nothing about?

Hey american,

You did forget that he won the Nobel Peace prize (for doing nothing...). It's shame that a guy with a one page resume ends up being president. No military experience, no business experience...but he does have that shiny degree (although I don't know what his grade point was...).

Heck yeah, Torpedo!

Let's run with that ole Constitution. Did you know that a black person is only 3/5 of me? Or I am 1.66 of him, however you want to look at it.

That's equal and fair, right? ^.^

I think you missed my initial point, m'boyo.

If you truly think the world is, or ever will be, 'fair' then you're a child regardless of your age and use the same inescapably dead logic as one. Instead of crying, however, you've learned the fine art of typing and vocalizing your emotional shennanigans regarding 'fairness'.

How bout the "Equality Guru" Tech? You might start with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights which are the foundations of our democracy. IE: Why do corporations enjoy certain advantages over private citizens?

What has equality got to do with "fairness"? When was our progressive tax system assumed to be "fair"?

jed233, HELLO, HELLO, hello, hello, hell, hel, he. Talk about hollow. Jed plug your other ear.

At least there is room for something. That rock you are totin around is obviously filled up. Just maybe if you put your head between your legs and shake vigorously, some of that shiit will come out. I doubt it will work but in cases like yours, options are limited.

Torpedo - I disagree with...

Perry and the rest of the conservative echo chamber AKA Spankster and his crowd are not willing to cut this administration any slack.

History says that the politically opposing party rarely gives the opposition any slack except perhaps in time of war or natural disaster. Spanky and others do make one think beyond liberal and radical right blogs into the real world. When do you recall any campaign rhetoric that was really civil or without attacks? BTW - I understand the 2012 campaign rhetoric will be off the charts.

I did appreciate the rest of your post though and yes, historical context is important whenever trying to make an argument.

Peace is the time available between wars used to prepare for the next one.

bush - spoken like the true hawk you are.

nurse - thank you for the reminder.

w bush--sad but true! :( Don't know if you are a hawk, but truth is truth, and that seems to be how we use our peacetime.

American--you are most welcome--if more of us thought about peace, maybe our thoughts could become reality!

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

Peace sucks! Let them all bomb the @!$%# out of each other and get it over with so that we can all go about our lives.