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Subscribe to RSSRepublican presidential candidate Texas Gov. Rick Perry criticizes President Obama’s foreign policy while affirming his support for Israel.
In his first major foray into foreign-policy specifics, Texas Gov. Rick Perry today blasted the Obama administration's "policy of appeasement" towards Palestine, and he assured Israelis that "help is on the way" in the decades-long conflict in the region.
Surrounded by Jewish leaders -- as well as newly minted GOP Rep. Bob Turner, who won last week's special congressional election in New York -- Perry derided the White House's Middle East policy as "naïve and arrogant, misguided and dangerous" and repeatedly lambasted President Obama's position that the 1967 borders established between Israel and Palestine, with land swaps, be the starting point for further peace negotiations.
"The people of Israel and the people of this world will never question where I stand when it comes to Israel," Perry declared to applause at a press conference in New York City.
Borrowing a line made famous by then-presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry, Perry added, "I hope that you tell the people of Israel that help is on the way."
During the press conference, which came as the United Nations considers Palestinian leaders' bid to be formally recognized by the international body, Perry said that he supports the continued building of Israeli settlements and that he advocates for a two-state solution to the conflict between Israel and Palestine.
Asked about whether he views support of Israel as a "theological" matter, Perry noted the strong alliance between that nation and the United States before adding: "I also, as a Christian, have a clear directive to support Israel."
Perry has recently faced criticism for appearing uninformed or offering muddled statements on Middle East policy. In a Time magazine article published earlier this month, Perry suggested that Palestinian leaders must recognize Israel's right to exist -- an agreement already made in the Oslo Accords of 1993.
*** UPDATE *** NBC's Justin Kirschner has more on today's event:
Also in attendance and standing behind Perry -- in addition to Turner -- were New York State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, a Democrat; and a Likud Party member of the Knesset, Danny Danon.
Turner, dubbing himself the "messenger from the 9th Congressional District," blasted the Obama administration, saying, "They have been vacillating and at times hostile to Israel, and that is not acceptable." Turner also agreed with Perry's statement that the U.S. should consider pulling its funding from the United Nations if the Palestinian vote goes through, saying to NBC News that removing funding "should be a weapon at our disposal."
Hikind went a step further, saying that U.S. funding for the U.N. should be completely cut. He added, "I don't know what they succeed at doing."
Danon, the only Israeli to speak at Perry's press conference, pre-butted the assumed passage of the General Assembly resolution, saying that recognition of the Palestinians at the U.N. would merely make them "a Facebook nation."
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I read somewhere that Perry didn't write the article in Time.
And yes of course, Israel has a right to exist. So don't the Palestians.
President Obama isn't the one who is naive, Perry. Far, far from it. Take it from the man, our President, who practically stood alone in 2002, while everybody else was banging the war drums.
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2002 - Barack Obama
I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.
You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.
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We cannot suppress one people in order that another may survive. Okay? This is America. We're supposed to stand up for people's rights.
Perry, a C/D average student. It shows.
It really is more a function of being given his 'marching' orders. Can't help but wonder if he's using a teleprompter, though, to keep it all straight.
LOL
My Dallas friend is calling Perry "Bush 2.0". I feel compelled to tell him what Rove's aid said, "Perry is just like W, without the intellect and the ethics."
My friend finds it hard to argue with that one.
Obama was supposed to be the bridge to the arab world, to make it all better.
But in reality the Arab Spring is going about as bad as possible, and now the Palestine leader is forcing Obama's hand.
The guy is really making Obama's life hard on this issue.
So h for any arab respect for Obama.
Oh and Clara Bell - I used to call Obama Carter 2.0. I wish that was the case, but it is so much worse than that.
But maybe you can tell us about Obama's intellect and his ethics? Still no transcripts, and now we have pure crony capitalism in Solyndra and the Air force General told to change testimony.
Clara?
Yeah right Spanky just like that Libya thingy where Obama got the Brits and the French to do most of the heavy lifting. Seem to recall that the PM's of those countries were greeted as heroes by the rebels.
As far as forcing the Presidents hand, that is just outright bull. They would have done the same anyway.
Crony Capitalism??? Might I deflect like you often do and refer you to those famous Haliburten no bid contracts and Mr Perry's pay to play!
Oh and one last thing....Just curious as to what your billable hourly rate is. Are you billing your clients for the time you spend on this site blogging?
Spanky are you saying the Arab Spring is bad because it is spreading the wish for democracy or at least attempting to. Palestine is wanting the US to support its own Peace Treaty requirements what a bad thing for us to live up to our promises of the past and them blame it on the new guy. Obama Carter 2.0 hey it could be worse he could be Nixon 2.0 great example of Republican thinking. Keep up the comparisons Spanky we love the fantasy.
Pat, Hamas has not recognized Israel's right to exist and have stated that they will not recognize Israel's right to exist. Actually what is the President's position on getting Hamas to recognize Israel's right to exist? He doesn't have one, and you can not have a Palestinian State until Hamas and Fatah can agree on who will govern. Only Fatah, who controls the West Bank, has recognized Israel's right to exist. Hamas is still, rightly so, a terrorist organization but they control the Gaza Strip.
You are correct...the President doesn't have a position on this.
It's because any position taken by the President would be token at best. He can not force Hamas to recognize the right to exist...nor can anyone else for that matter. The President said so himself back in May...
Clara KCMO -- If Perry is a version with more bugs, than he would not be Bush 2.0, but rather a Beta release that was scrapped. The reason no one can pin Perry down is because he is very shallow, has no convictions, and has gotten by so far with pandering. The media needs to get him out of a forum in which he can throw out bumper sticker sound bites, and force him to speak in depth about various issues. He will fail miserably with real scrutiny.
sfcret-- The US will veto the Palestinian request in the UN, and this has been the position for a long time that terms need to be negotiated and agreed to by all sides. So what's your point, or Perry's point other than to create another nontroversy against the president and distraction from the real substance of the matter?
As for the punk, it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. The Middle East is a complex can of worms that even experts struggle to understand. Please stop with your typical poop and swoop posts that add nothing to the conversation.
It's a cheap shot, nothing but a cheap shot. Ride'em cowboy, Rick. Pistol-Packin' Perry. Yep, that's just what we need, another gun-totin' smack-talkin' tin-horn cowboy in the Oval office. All hat and no cattle.
I thought we were done with that after GBII?
Yeehaw!
America held hostage, day 263
Obama/Biden 2012
So let's see if I get where Perry is coming from, he's opposed to big/over reaching government. he finds that the "nanny" role that government plays is an affront to states rights and individual freedoms but he does want us to baby sit Israel and others.
I think everyone is missing the most important line in Perry's speech "I also, as a Christian, have a clear directive to support Israel."
Google "The Rapture" to see what he is talking about. Look at the records of the "Christian" pastors who were present at Perry's prayer fest in Houston. They support Israel only until the point that all Jews have immigrated to Israel and can be destroyed along with all the rest of us who are not being raptured up to heaven.
WOW WEE!
All the wack-jobs showed up today!
If I can squeeze in here among all of the liberal blowhards and their usual ranting insults, I'd like to interject an actual fact.
Apparently, a lot of American Jews agree with Perry, and plan to vote for him. My source for this is the recent election in NYC where an overwhelmingly Jewish district elected a no-name Republican to replace the banished Jewish Democrat. The seat had been held by Dems for about 100 years. Several NPR interviews with American Jewish leaders verified the disenchantment with Obama and his anti-Israel bent.
MKM1944 -- Some Israelis and some Jews in the US tolerate the Rapture, or more mainstream End Times or Last Days (Glenn Beck Mormon version) because for now the Evangelical/Christian support is what's important to them. They are smart people--I'm not putting them down. Perry and the rest are mere Gentiles who are welcome to war-monger and sacrifice blood and treasure to their heart's content. Heresy, conspiracy theory, superstition, what ever you want to call it, this is the Teapublican foreign policy. Scary Perry, you betcha.
Yeah, PEACE and not giving $billions in aid to Israel are bad things. /s
We can't give $billions to starving Africans, but we can give $billions to arm Israelis to the teeth.
Rather than take the bull by the horns and try to solve the middle-east peace problem with Israel and Palestine, Perry would rather go with the status quo, which is continuing to put American tax dollars into Israeli war planes and their aggressive dictatorship. Jews paying off our congressmen is as dangerous to our country as any terroristic muslim.
SickOfTheBickering
"WOW WEE!
All the wack-jobs showed up today!"
....he said, having showed up a g a i n today.
This is coming from a Jew-- the US's relationship with Israel is necessary, however, the US has taken the relation to toxic levels. Our blind obedience and overgenerous help is by no means, giving us anything in return and needs to be reduced to lower levels.
On the other hand, Perry's divine relationship with Israel is that in his strict belief in the Christian faith, Israel needs to b controlled by the Jews in order or Jesus to be resurrection to bring forth the apocalypse and send all the true believers (of which he must include himself) to heaven and all others who do not accept Jesus to hell. So essentially, Perry want's the relationship with Israel escalated for a pure religious devotion and nothing more.
Perry's right- and Obama, as usual, has blown up a situation by leading with his enormous ego.
Anybody care to conjecture why in the world he did not ship grain and corn, and soybeans, to the Middle East and North Africa from our reserves after he was warned that food shortages would precipitate EXACTLY the situation that devolved there? Anybody?
Talk of land swaps is just that- talk. Actually, if you really want to talk land for Palestine, why are not the Jordanians at the table? They took the lion's share of "Palestine". Maybe they should consider giving some of it back- in the interests, you know, of world peace.
This crisis in the U.N. this week is Obama's fault. He is them one who all but promised that a Palestinian state would be agreed to this year- so, he gets to deal with the crisis he created.
Like everything else he touches, he takes a problem, exacerbates it, and then blames others for the fall out.
"....he said, having showed up a g a i n today."
you beat me to the punch again.
Spider, I'm an American Jew and I won't be voting for Perry or Romney or any of the Me First crowd. Israel is complicated and it hasn't been made simple enough for the likes of Perry due to the HARD LINE stances of some parties. Knessets are true coalitions. Something these obstructionist retreads don't seem to comprehend.
It sure makes a great 'narrative', though. Keep on spinning that web,...what's the saying?
Tangled is the web you weave when you practice to deceive,...hmmm?
What a GREAT moniker.
Spider states: "Apparently, a lot of American Jews agree with Perry, and plan to vote for him. My source for this is the recent election in NYC where an overwhelmingly Jewish district elected a no-name Republican to replace the banished Jewish Democrat. The seat had been held by Dems for about 100 years. Several NPR interviews with American Jewish leaders verified the disenchantment with Obama and his anti-Israel bent."
A lot of American Jews agree with Perry? Really? And plan to vote for him? Huh? Not this Jew.
Your source for "a lot of American Jews" is a House race in a single New York district? You extrapolate nationwide on the basis of a single district? What makes you think that American Jews are a monolithic voting bloc? Reform Jews...Secular Jews...Orthodox Jews...all have their own agendas and all have a different perspective on the relationship between the U.S. and Israel.
By Ali Gharib on Jun 8, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Neoconservative bloggers have yet to come up with a single name of a major Jewish Democratic donor who says that he or she intends to abandon President Obama — or even other Democrats — because of the (mis)perception that Obama’s forceful push for a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict is either anti-Israel or a major policy shift.
As Washington Post blogger Greg Sargent points out, the right-wing meme started to ramp up after a CNBC interview with Democratic donor Haim Saban, who supported Hillary Clinton in the last election primaries and then didn’t give to Obama after he emerged as the party’s candidate. This fact, however, didn’t stop Alana Goodman at the neoconservative flagship Commentary from claiming that Saban “decided to break with the president” — implying that Saban once financially supported Obama.
As ThinkProgress has extensively reported, this sounded an awful lot like an attempt by neoconservatives to gin up a controversy about Obama and Jewish donors in order to use a false premise to set off a chain reaction. Goodman responded to ThinkProgress’s reporting by basically admitting that’s what was happening (and using the term “breaking” again):
Today, Sargent interviewed the major Democratic donor in question — billionaire Haim Saban — and confirmed that Saban would still be willing to give money to Obama if the campaign asks despite minor criticisms of the administration:
The first part of this statement echoes almost exactly Saban’s comments toward the bottom of his interview with CNBC, raising again the question of whether Commentary was simply seeing whatever it wanted in Saban’s interview. “Will I donate if I am solicited? I will donate,” Saban told CNBC.
Saban does predict that Jewish donations to Obama will fall off. But if, as Commentary claimed, the billionaire is a “bellwether for Jewish voters and donors,” then the status quo of Jewish support for Obama — like Saban’s positions — are likely to hold steady.
What’s more, Sargent reports that Saban himself sees right through the right wing’s ploy of distorting Obama’s positions — as revealed by Emergency Committee For Israel executive director Noah Pollak‘s support for Obama’s big Middle East speech just weeks before his organization came out and blasted it. Sargent writes:
That’s exactly why Democratic organizers and fund-raisers are already defending Obama against the smears — oh, and, according to Ron Kampeas of the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, that includes a fundraiser hosted by two former AIPAC heads in the next two weeks that is expected to raise $1 million in a single night. This is in addition to other major Jewish donors that have already pledged fealty to Obama in the coming election cycle.
So, which way exactly are the Jewish donors breaking again?
Well true I see you now want to negate a persons religion. How wonderful of you. Remind your high school buddies to get you another roll of TP to wipe the @!$%# off of your mouth. Since fiesty was suspended, It looks like you are making a lame attempt to replace her.
No, he lies, and it is such an obvious lie. Israel already has statehood, so if Perry was seriously advocating a "two state solution" he'd be supporting the Palestinian bid for statehood to make the "two-state solution" a reality.
Instead, Perry's policy is to support Israel building "settlements" anywhere they want in the region, supporting confiscating all the land they want, and if any little isolated bits and pieces are left after Israel has had it's fill, well, maybe then the Palestinians might be allowed to survive in those isolated pockets. That's not a plan for peace, that's a plan for genocide.
Oh, and Pat? Of course Perry did not quite the Rime article- Van Dreihl did. He is one of their writers.
It's like accusing Obama of not having written one of the pieces about him on First Read.
Pretty good imitation of Gail Sheehy, by the way. You make an accusation without ever actually coming out with it.
Perry is a moron. I am an American and like most Americans I am disgusted at the continued handout of tax payer dollars to a regime conducting ethnic cleansing. Perry will never get my vote, in fact, I despise this Christian Wacko Perry so much that should he be the Republican nominee I will vote for Obama. And I have never voted for a Democrat in my life.
Pat, Boston, MA
"Perry, a C/D average student. It shows."
At least he has the guts to admit it. Both Obamas gave up their law licences for fear of being disbarred. Barry won't even release his college record for fear that they will tell he isn't what he claims to be. He received a Fulbright Scholarship the is only available to foreigners. He had no money but managed to go to Harvard. No one remembers him, including George Stephanoplis who went to school at Columbia at the same time and majored in the same classes. Only the blind would let this go.
But do tell why a lawyer would relinquish his license to practice law if he was not guilty of something. No one does that.
Please do a bit of objective research on the god you believe is some kind of Messiah.
Right on the money El Diablo. Explains why Perry wants Texas to secede and make it a Jewish state.
Btw, as for Israel, it no longer seems to be the family of Jacob - their namesake. They have clung to the Old Testament yet have shunned the rules of their God. They have accepted homosexuality in defiance of God. They have not taken care of their own in defiance of God. They charge interest to their own in defiance of God.
They have gone back and forth in their own written history appealing to God when they need help, yet turn away from Him when it suits them. As the Bible says, they are "stiff necked" and by their own hand they will be destroyed or come back to God.
if they all start to follow God's commands again, they can be saved as they are the chosen ones, regardless of whether they believe in Christ as the savior. Unfortunately, they, as a whole, have denied God and is covenant. If they turn back to Him they can be saved. The land they possess was promised them if they follow God's laws, but they repeatedly deny them.
Of course the Atheists won't agree and will mock. The pseudo Jews will turn their backs on the laws of God, and the result will be the end of the Middle East and much of the world.
Most Jews don't live in Israel and most who don't have turned their backs of God and have turned to government as their savior even though for over 3000 years government has screwed them, with at least one trying to exterminate them.
Thruout the last 3000+ years Israel (the offspring of Jacob) has produced the smartest minds in the world for one of the tiniest populations in the world. While that is true, they keep going back and forth from God. I would suggest that most American Jews are not following the path of God. Their actions show that they aren't by their voting record. They condemn the holocaust yet embrace it. They vote for legislation that denies the right to self defence, the right to life, the right to be free. They vote for the likes of Obama who would throw them under a bus at first opportunity, if he could.
The past is repeating itself again.
The Devil-1138528
"Perry is a moron. I am an American and like most Americans I am disgusted at the continued handout of tax payer dollars to a regime conducting ethnic cleansing. Perry will never get my vote, in fact, I despise this Christian Wacko Perry so much that should he be the Republican nominee I will vote for Obama. And I have never voted for a Democrat in my life."
So vote for Obama - a liar, a cheat and a thief. What do you know about him. At least perry is an open book. Obama is just a puff of smoke, hiding his past.
Clara - if you are am American Jew that votes for 1 Term 0bama you will prove to the world that you are an idiot. If 0bama had his way Israel would not exist!
Yet more short sighted naivte and even shorter memories displayed among these comments.
1.In 2000 Ehud Barack offered the Palestinians the basis of their state.And what did they do?? The Intifada.Waves of terror.
2.Israel voluntarily gave up the Gaza and what did it get in return?? THOUSANDS OF ROCKETS raining down hitting Israeli Palestinians as well as Jews.
Rockets fired by whom??? HAMAS a proxy force of IRAN.
OK? Now with that settled there is,above all THE Primary lesson of WWII - You do NOT appease those who make political demands with threats of violence.That is the surest path to destroying all diplomatic credibility and ultimately greater conflict costing even more in blood and treasure.That goes not only for Israel but ANY Democratic ally be it South Korea,Taiwan or East Timor for that matter.Why mention E. Timor? Because it is western support of that nascient democracy that was the excuse for Jihadist terror attacks on civilians in S.E. Asia including the horrendous Bali nightclub bombings.Remember these famous words from Sir Winston Churchill,spoken in 1938 when Neville Chamberlain surrendered a democratic Czehkeslovakia to Hitler -
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last".
Obama failed at everything except....at how to be a proper community organzier.Unfortunately those qualifications do not resonate very well with the functions of the presidency ..; an empty suit will always be just an empty suit.
What a Joke! Israel doesn't need our help, and if they ever do we will be there no matter who is president.
When will we be there for Mexico? We should join with Canada and Brazil and help our Neighbor. Liberate Mexico and give it back to the people.
Israel has proven time and time again that those who attack them are the ones who need help! Israel is no longer a punching bag they are a powerhouse!
...Reads like a trash rag. Keep up your propaganda of fear, lies, and manipulation... good job.
Clara,
I like your quotes about "Bush 2.0", but I have one question...When it says, "...without the intellect and the ethics.", that implies that G.W. has intellect and ethics...when did that happen?
Bob, "Thow shalt not judge." You are making judgements here you are not qualified to make. By the way, how familiar are you with the Tora?
There is a certain amount of self-importance that Perry has a tendency to exhibit, I would like to know what his stand is...it's interesting, that is at least the third time I've heard him say that his postion on something is obvious without actually explaining what his stance really is.
By the way, the Texas Governor doesn't actually DO anything...the LT Governor does.
This Dumb-ass Perry has put his foot in his mouth again. we have been fighting with this problem for centuries with the middle east, so we expect Obama to fix it this year like everything else that has been wrong in the world. But this dumb-ass has push the US back with this conflict. IF you think this dumb mother**** d*** sucking bit** is good for USA be ready for WAR as much as possible.
@Bob-3374873 - "At least perry is an open book."
Someone being an "open book" should not in any way convince people to vote for him. I'm from and live in Texas... believe me, it doesn't take living here to discover how much of an illogical and irrational governor or candidate he is...
And your earlier comment about Obama and Harvard... I think he was only Harvard Law Review President... pretty sure you need around a 3.8 GPA to even be considered.. could be wrong though...
Look I'm not necessarily for the current president but you should probably strengthen your Perry arguments in a different way...
"President Obama's position that the 1967 borders established between Israel and Palestine, with land swaps, be the starting point for further peace negotiations;" the writer makes this sound as though this is something unique about this "weak, ineffectual, delusional" president, when in fact, obama's stand has been the accepted, by both jews and israeli, starting point for a long time.
So your point is that Obama's stand is the same as in the past and Perry and others in the right-wing are making a nontroversy of this, and yet another distraction from real issues? I agree.
[..when in fact, obama's stand has been the accepted, by both jews and israeli, starting point for a long time.]
Of course it has...and the Obama Administration isn't the first to propose this...the only thing standing in the way is that Israel has become the very entity it hates deep down inside the most...
The fate of the area was addressed during the Carter administration Pease talks with Israel and Eygpt. Our word was both Palestine and Israel have a right to their own counrty and we have never lived up to that agreement which is what Obama is trying to do now. So are we a counrty of our word or not. Are we liers for our own benefit or is the Israeli government trying to reright the peace agreement.
Come on, everybody knows that the Israel lobby is the most powerful in the nation--AIPAC--and NO ONE, not Dem or Repub, dares cross them. So how do we like having our country run for the benefit of Israel?! We spend more money on that country than we do on our own! Israel gov (not necessarily all its people) plays the "victim" card oh so well! While perpetrating an apartheid that would not be tolerated in any other nation! Yeah like any Arab nation could wipe Israel out--they're armed to the teeth with nukes, jet fighters, warships, etc. that they got from America for free or nearly so! Netanyahu comes here and speaks to Congress and thumbs his nose at the President, basically, and they all kow-tow.
Perry is just an opportunist and doesn't really understand the Middle East situation. What a loser.
Yup, he thinks he'll have the evangelical Christian right wing vote locked up if spouts off about protecting Israel.
@!$%# Israel and Perry.
LyndaAZ, he probably will get the evangelicals in the primaries. I believe, may be wrong, that he will at least win a couple of states just because of the religious vote.
But if wasn't for the religious connection between Israel and Christians, I also believe he'd be singing a different song about Israel.
david, Obama is just an opportunist and knows nothing about foreign affairs, or our economic system.
Do the Palestinians have tanks?
...helicopters?
...jets?
Yeah, no, the Israelis need lots of help.
Palestinians are brown people, and Perry thinks Jews are white, so it's obvious which side he'll support.
cygnus
Wasn't Sammy Davis Jr. JEWISH???
He has the nerve to criticize Obama over Israel. He called him an appeaser. First question, does he know where Israel is and second does he know what appeasement means. I am guessing the answer to both his no. Last point, he said that he wants to make government inconsequential in our lives. So is there different rules for Israel.
If Israel doesn't have a country, as the Palestinian want, their government would be inconsequential. What is your point?
He'll switch his stance or change his words next week when some Pro-Palestinian benefactors give him money. Political Rhetoric is rhetoric.
What an hypocrite that Perry! He needs the evangelical votes and the Jewish votes. IF they do not understand that US alone cannot determine Israel's fate and there has to be a lot of compromises to be made, they are in for a big falling off the pedestal.
But hey, that is pure politics! It is the voter's responsibility to get him/herself educate. They will hear what they want to hear and politicians know that.
Inadaze, it is a presidential race, and therefore it is pure politics, and both sides are engaged fully.
Devoid of any knoweledge or concern, I am not certain which Spanky and some others merely rant on as is the far right way. Lies will become truths if repeated often enough, BS will fertilize the easily corruptible minds of bigots everywhere. All one need do is look at how many of Obama's thoughts, plans and policies were original rightist ideas until Obama said he liked them as well. Spanky I am almost sorry you have hit your thumb with a hammer and it is sore but Spanky it is so blatantly obvious you have no original thought or idea to espouse ony that you do not like Obama. I will not bother to delve into why you simply do not and nothing will change your ignorance. However except for those that have been infected by the same virus on here do you really think you have impressed a single person? No need to respond it was rhetorical.
The punk confuses quality with quantity -- He is merely starved for attention. His false sense of superiority and insults toward other posters leaves a bad stench in the forum, and that's the only acknowledgement he deserves.
[His false sense of superiority and insults toward other posters leaves a bad stench in the forum...]
Yeah, but the toad thinks he's "winning"!
And the Jews can surely trust Perry and his ultra religious right wing who want to impose Christianity on every aspect of government and society to look out for them. Right.
I can understand the gut reaction of Jews against a Palestinian state, but this isn't new news. It's been in the works for quite a while and a two state solution is clearly seen by most as the best of all possible options for any chance of enduring peace. You can't negotiate with a party that has nothing at stake in the negotiation.
For Jews who see Palestinians as their enemy, this is exactly what you should want, so you can hold the state of Palestine responsible at the UN level for what happens in their territory and for any support to terrorist organizations.
I think most Jews, or at least moderates, will come around on this anyway before the 2012 election. This may be a short term strategy for Perry, but I think Perry's pro-Israel stance will be negated by his other positions, so he won't get much of the Jewish vote in the end. This is just an attempt to stay ahead of Romney in the primaries.
This emotionally loose cannon who shoots from the hip, entrusted with our foreign affairs, and he's speaking like he's the world's renown authority? I don't think so.
This could lead to our first mormon president. ;)
God will not let anything happen to Israel, so it really does not matter what anyone does!
Merry, I wouldn't be so sure of that....just take a look at history, from BC to WWII.
Just wait. Time will tell!
You know, it's grown-ups believing in silly desert fairy tales that led us to this sad debacle in the first place.
Hey, Merry. God let Hitler happen. Chew on that a bit.
Merry, gods do not exist.
Hey Merry, Israel will not let anything happen to Israel.
Nik, for your soul's sake, you shouldn't say things like that. Really...
Paul, gods do not exist. Really...
Merry - it is proven quite well if you read and believe in the Bible that God lets all kinds of things happen to Israel - after all, they did not even have a country until 1948 - so for all those who insist we protect Israel, my question is this: who did we protect before then? Seems like God shined favor on the USA even before we protected Israel (not there, remember?), maybe it was because we rescued them, and the Chezs, Pol's, Russian's and Germans in the concentration camps? maybe it was because we as a nation recognized the need to protect all of mankind from terrorists and warmongers? Who knows, not me as I'd never, ever question or second guess God, but one thing I know for sure - there is not one single republican candidate running who is a true Christian - something most Jews despise secretely or openly - make no mistake, they not only consider Muslims their enemy, they also consider Christian's their enemy. They think our Savior is a fake just like they theink Mohammad is a fake. And if you really study Biblical history you know we as humans will have little effect on that part of the world - now Sarah and Abraham probably could have changed the course a little bit but did not, therefore the Muslims hate both the Christian's and Jews, which makes us strange bedfellows with each other as long as we need to ban together to fight the Muslims and Arabs. I'm pretty tired of keeping Israel up, tired of the flow of money headed their way - I don't see much of a return from my tax money to them and I sure don't want them dictating who will be the leader of our great Nation unless they are citizens (not dual citizens) of the US and vote. The leaders of Israel need to step up to the plate and recognize they are not the only country in that region and get along with their neighbors - and what idiot designed the peace accord to tear up a country anyway? That never works, why should the Palestinians be any happier about giving up part of their country to make another than we would if we were asked to give the California territory back to Mexico? Bet we would not do it and it is hypocritical to ask another country to do just that. Perry is a ME, ME, ME wealthy, greedy want to be Christian. Besides, he may not get the nomination, there is a pretty loud growing of folks in the south who plan to swing vote for romney just because we know the rednecks down here would never come out and vote for a Morman in the general election . Sounds like a good plan to me - think I'll fan those flames, please everyone - join me and lets keep the greedy repugnants and baggers from overthrowing our democracy and turning our great nation into the Theocracy or Autocracy, which is their only plan for this nation.
Union Baby, TennesseeThe leaders of Israel need to step up to the plate and recognize they are not the only country in that region and get along with their neighbors - and what idiot designed the peace accord to tear up a country anyway? That never works, why should the Palestinians be any happier about giving up part of their country to make another than we would if we were asked to give the California territory back to Mexico? Bet we would not do it and it is hypocritical to ask another country to do just that.
Kudos to you !!! Why are the US supporting Israel unconditionally? I am tired of sending my hard-earned monies to Israel who feels that she is entitled. How different is the US assistance to Israel and Social Security or Medicare? Israel never paid a dime into the program except lip services and selfishness and expects to receive benefits for life. To all the American Jews who put Israel's interests above the American ones, I like to know if you are an American or Israel citizen. You may want to move to Israel and take up its citizenship so you can effectively defend Israel. I am an American citizen and am very sick and tired of your double standard. The Jews cannot take the US hostage regarding the Palestinians. With that kind of abrasive attitude, has Israel wondered why it is isolated and is not able to obtain peace with her neighbors. It takes two to tango.
This Week: Perry with Jewish Leaders: "Help is ON the way"
Next Week: Perry with Palestinian Leaders: "Help is ON the way"
Week after that: Perry with Latino Leaders: "La ayuda está en camino"
And after that: Perry with Tea Partiers: "Government Help is IN the way..."
You forgot one...
Perry with Farmers: "Government Help IS the way!"
And to the Koch brothers:
"I need help, so please send more astroturf."
JEWS BEWARE OF PERRY!
Perry is in bed with EndTimer's who say that Jews are preventing Jesus from returning to earth... and we must do something about that.
Maybe he should pay attention to our country instead of a country thousands of miles away.
Funny to hear a fundie like Perry talk about helping Israel. I don't think trying to bring about Armageddon is going to be much help.
If he's so 'pro-Israel', why does he hang around with anti-Semites like John Hagee?
Maybe he is hoping to convert him!
To put it frankly, he wants to get all the jews in one place so they can be absolutely SLAUGHTERED in the End Times to bring back Jesus.
I don't think he realizes that Jesus was a Jew.
Perry sounds just like the old W. Bush and sounds just like his nonsense. We are just getting out of a lot of the errors in W. Bush's ways and we don't need another one like him now or anytime soon. He was just doing this live speech about Israel and Palestine and I know he only did it to step over and disrespect the President of the US just like Congress has been doing and especially the Tea Party nuts and our idiot House Speaker. They have already made comments about if Obama were Clinton or if Clinton was in office but we all know what they really mean, If Obama was white, then they wouldn't be giving him all this kick back. Still a racist country and world and it is really disgusting......
Yet more short sighted naivte and even shorter memories displayed among these comments.
1.In 2000 Ehud Barack offered the Palestinians the basis of their state.And what did they do?? The Intifada.Waves of terror.
2.Israel voluntarily gave up the Gaza and what did it get in return?? THOUSANDS OF ROCKETS raining down hitting Israeli Palestinians as well as Jews.
Rockets fired by whom??? HAMAS a proxy force of IRAN.
OK? Now with that settled there is,above all THE Primary lesson of WWII - You do NOT appease those who make political demands with threats of violence.That is the surest path to destroying all diplomatic credibility and ultimately greater conflict costing even more in blood and treasure.That goes not only for Israel but ANY Democratic ally be it South Korea,Taiwan or East Timor for that matter.Why mention E. Timor? Because it is western support of that nascient democracy that was the excuse for Jihadist terror attacks on civilians in S.E. Asia including the horrendous Bali nightclub bombings.Remember these famous words from Sir Winston Churchill,spoken in 1938 when Neville Chamberlain surrendered a democratic Czehkeslovakia to Hitler -
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last".
rick and michelle - same person! this guy is spookier than donald trump and I thougt he was pretty spooky- he has that funny look in his eye that you see in right wing preachers-grew up around those folks- what they said to their flock and what they did in their private lives two different things-learned to stay away- would advise all to do the same- don't go to his tent meetings- he can't even save himself but he will save you if you only send him$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Our blind support of the failed experiment known as the State of Israel has to end. They aren't our friends; they aren't our ally. They are an interest, and one that has turned into a dangerous liability. Too many Americans have died because of this sad mistake, and it's time we took the proper, neutral position in the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.
That's all the US needs is another chicken hawk that hasn't spent a day of their lives on the front line. The US needs to get out of the business of war, plan and simple.
Don't forget that Florida will be a decisive state in the election, and there is a large block of elderly Jewish voters in the state (just factual, no disrespect intended)Â
nyc protests are streaming live..day 4 includes police brutality.. google: global revolution and usdor
Perry is acussing the President of appeasement?.....HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahaha!!!! These guys have almost come full circle Heheheheeee, The next thing you know, he will be accusing the President of being weak on terror....Lets see, he got bin laden, (bush couldn't do it), he helped get rid of momo(Regan tried to do that)....whose next perry? HAAAAAAAhahahahahaaa!!! He stole a line from Kerry, next he will try to steal a line from this President.
Obama got bin Laden? That's freak'n hilarious!!! ....and he helped get rid of Ka'daffy? ....man, what you smok'n?
This is for you St Obama - the human spirit BOATLIFT, a 9/11 Tale of Resilience (Video)
He's an actor in a play and the only star is him. Where ARE the serious candidates??
It's tyme we put a real Man like that there Perry in the white House and kik some of you no whats. The DOG MAD comunistic Liberols, the anti Gun, anti Chistian crowd, the scientists and thar satan beliefs like evolutiun, Globel warmin, math, space travel (let Chiner and India do that, Thar a bunch a loosers), who needs it, what a bunch a Bull, a bunch a globel whinners. It's just a excuse to give them stupid scientists jobs. They gotta go, prays be the Lord God allmighty. We need a CREATIONIST to gide this country to the light, thars to much Science bein learnt in our Socialistic Schools. Why this guy Perry can wack coyotes dead when runnin. Amazin. Once he's in office he can deregolate everythin, Oil drillin off the east and west coast and alaska, open it up, why thars enouf wood in alaska to be clearcut to supply chiner with chops stick for 200 years, then he can tak Texas outa the Union and go tell the USA to Uk itself, if ya all get my drift. There aint nothin you meelly mouth, weak Liberols can do neather. We don't waunt knowlegde we waunt CERTAINTY. A cople more things, get rid of social security, we got to many old poeple anyway. there all a bunch of communists. And here comes the big one. It's time to go to War with Iran, it'll be good for the aconomy, more contractors more weapon, more money. Nuke em, what a hoot.Of course we gotta bring back the draft, thats good cause we got to many sissys standin on the sidelines.
I would have used "Librulls" personally; middle syllables are for sissys.
Now Sissy's IS something Perry would know about. Steers and queers? Perry ain't a steer!!
Allan, that was a very funny, clever piece of writing. It's too bad it was so thoroughly hateful and bigoted.
I seriously doubt that Perry could locate Israel on a map.
Maybe he can see it from his porch.
I wonder if he can even find Texas on a map?
Is Texas still part of the US....I thought televangelist Perry seceded....
Perry barely has what it takes to govern Israel, TX. Everything he knows about world affairs is passed to him on index cards just before each speech.
Rick Perry is and always will be an ignorant fool who unfortunately seems to be able to buy his way into power. As for NY 9 being used as an indicator of the feelings of Jewish voters. Many Jews including myself vote for what is best for our country, the United States. While I certainly don't want to see Israel destroyed, I believe the situation is not as simplistic as Perry likes to think it is. I use the word think cautiously when it comes to Perry since his capacity to think seems limited. NY9 has many Orthodox Jews who are against marriage rights for gays and they voted for the Tea Party moron who is as bigoted as they are. Other voters in the district simply didn't care to come out and vote for a seat which is gone at the end of the year. Perry is likely wanting to get Jews on his side, collect their votes at the same time he preaches that Christianity is the only legitimate religion. He's a creep.
I support Israel as well, but their current leadership is just as hard-lined as Perry and that is a recipe for disaster, as if it couldn't get any worse in that region.
Mav, what sort of line would you have the Israelis take? Appeasement leads to encroachment. It's been demonstrated over and over. It started with appeasing the PLO, and it has arrived today at the UN.
When someone starts lobbing rockets into the US, you might think a hard line response is appropriate as well. But only if the liberal media actually shows what it did, rather than showing the poor, oppressed rocket launchers on the other side of the border.
Palestinians should not be appeasing the Israelis. Palestinian appeasement
just leads to more taking of Palestinian land.
Yet more short sighted naivte and even shorter memories displayed among these comments.
1.In 2000 Ehud Barack offered the Palestinians the basis of their state.And what did they do?? Move on to next round of talks? No – They unleashed the Intifada suicide bombing,among other things – Teens standing on line at a dance club – mothers with baby strollers in front of an Ice Cream parlor and working stiffs enjoying a beer at a blues club.
2.Israel voluntarily gave up the Gaza and what did it get in return?? THOUSANDS OF ROCKETS raining down hitting Israeli Palestinians as well as Jews.
Rockets fired by whom??? HAMAS a proxy froce of IRAN.
OK? Now with that settled there is,above all THE Primary lesson of WWII - You do NOT appease those who make political demands with threats of violence.That is the surest path to destroying all diplomatic credibility and ultimately greater conflict costing even more in blood and treasure.That goes not only for Israel but ANY Democratic ally be it South Korea,Taiwan or East Timor for that matter.Why mention E. Timor? Because it is western support of that nascient democracy that was the excuse for Jihadist terror attacks on civilians in S.E. Asia including the horrendous Bali nightclub bombings.Remember these famous words from Sir Winston Churchill,spoken in 1938 when Neville Chamberlain surrenedered a democratric Czehkeslovakia to Hitler -
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last".
Interesting how Perry panders to Jewish voters in support of the most militant elements in Israel but never tells them that according to his religion, they are all going to hell for denying Christ..
C--of course he does--you wouldn't want his "religious" views* to dictate public policy, now would you? (snark factor: ON HIGH).
*Please note that just being "religious" does not correlate to being spiritual!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly