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ROCK HILL, SC -- Traveling through upstate South Carolina yesterday, businessman Herman Cain made one point clear: political correctness is not his thing.
In fact, he began the first of his three speeches yesterday on that note. Greeting about 100 Republican voters in Aiken, he pointed to his “transitions” glasses that had turned slightly dark in the overcast outdoors.
He told the crowd that his campaign gets nervous when he keeps the sunglasses on, as they say it makes him look intimidating.
“Political correctness is not one of my strong points,” he said, to laughter and applause.
The freewheeling nature of the stops continued in Simpsonville, where Cain told approximately 150 people at P. Simpson’s restaurant about his stance on illegal immigration.
“If we can keep a dog in a yard with an invisible fence, don't you think we can keep people from sneaking into this country?” Cain asked the audience – again, as they broke into applause.
Cain then reflected on the bluntness of his remarks.
“Now, I know I'm going to get written up for talking about putting, you know, invisible fences and treating illegal immigrants like dogs. No, that's not it. I'm not real good at being politically correct, folks. I just like to solve problems,” he said.
And at his final stop at Winthrop University here in Rock Hill, Cain urged the audience to stay informed, taking aim, as he has frequently on the campaign trail, at a loosely defined demographic.
“It's stupid people that are ruining America,” Cain said, referencing the percentage of Americans who give President Obama high job approval marks in polls.
Regarding his own spot in the public consciousness, Cain said his name identification, which started much lower than some of his opponents, is “on the move,” and blamed the media for turning the presidential campaign into a race between two candidates, whom Cain never named all day.
He did, however, explain how he would break through that top tier of candidates – in typical Cain parlance for the day.
Speaking of how he would gain attention at future debates, Cain said, “I just stand back and let the others shoot at one another, and when it’s my turn I'll get up and say, ‘Here's my solution.’”
Cain is still in South Carolina today, making a morning stop at a restaurant in Myrtle Beach and participating in Rep. Tim Scott’s town hall series in Charleston at noon.
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Let me know when one of these Republican candidates actually have some ideas of how they see America in the future. I for one don't believe he should use the term "dog" to associate with illegal immigrants.
We've been there Mr. Cain. It's not a pretty history. Knock it off. Show some class. If you are against The DREAM Act or a way for these illegals to become legal, state your case.
But stop with the undignified references. We're better that that. We just need to show it more.
It's called respect. You're an adult. Act it. What are we teaching our younger generation when we speak like this of others?
Set an example. You're running for the presidency. You're supposed to be above the loud mouth hateful rhetoric we hear on tv and radio.
I swear this election cycle looks more & more like GOP candidates trying out for a stand up comedy act.
It's horrible. Grow up.
Cain, don't you know you're running for President and there's certain things that are inappropriate? You have to wait until you're actually the President to attack the other Party as UnAmerican, call them hostage takers and terrorists....
My, My. Now Blacks are calling Browns Dogs. Has Mr. Cain come full circle? Now he wants to treat immigrants like they did his Forefathers.
Disgusting.
"If we can keep a dog in a yard with an invisible fence, don't you think we can keep people from sneaking into this country?" Cain asked the audience – again, as they broke into applause."
Keeping a dog behind an invisible fence requires the dog wear an electronic 'shock' collar.
That kind of statement goes far beyond not being politically correct - It's just plain stupid ignorance.
What a maroon buffoon.
The sorriest part of his statement is the laughter & applause that followed...
It's deja vue back to Palin's Klan rallies in 2008!
Neither Cain or the rest of the insane clown posse currently running would recognize 'political correctness's is it slapped them in the face!
Good point, Pat.
If it's a comedy act you want, check out Jon Stewart's bit on Solyndra.
Hilarious...as long as you don't think about the $527 million or the 1100 jobs.
I read that as, "....I'm not getting enough attention so I am going off the script...."
I'm never politically correct, and quite frankly, neither are the yahooz on the right. Not sure it's news,...
Give it a rest Bag, your Solyndra crap you've been spewing for two weeks isn't going to gain any ground. It means nothing to anyone but you. AKA nobody cares.
Yep, nobody cares...
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Obama fundraiser linked to loan program that aided Solyndra
The revelation is likely to spur new inquiries about the solar company's political influence. Separately, California lawmakers seek investigation of a state tax break the firm received.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-solyndra-donor-20110917,0,440510.story
Solyndra, the logical endpoint of Obamanomics
As it turns out, the $38.6 billion loan program for clean energy firms that Solyndra benefited from has created just 3,545 permanent new jobs after parceling out half its dough. That works out to around $5 million a job.
http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2011/09/16/solyndra-the-logical-endpoint-of-obamanomics/
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Nothing to see here...
That's what I said dangerfield. Nothing to see here, except for you and bag boy. But do keep it up, it takes away from you and bag boys hate and lies.
Media Blow Story
Think Progress:
It’s often claimed that the Solyndra loan guarantee was “rushed through” by the Obama Administration for political reasons. In fact, the Solyndra loan guarantee was a multi-year process that the Bush Administration launched in 2007.
You’d never know from the media coverage that:
Because one of the Solyndra investors, Argonaut Venture Capital, is funded by George Kaiser — a man who donated money to the Obama campaign — the loan guarantee has been attacked as being political in nature. What critics don’t mention is that one of the earliest and largest investors, Madrone Capital Partners, is funded by the family that started Wal-Mart, the Waltons. The Waltons have donated millions of dollars to Republican candidates over the years.
With a stagnant job market and Obama sinking in the polls, the media has decided on a narrative that matches right-wing talking points but not the facts. For instance, Bloomberg had this incredibly misleading headline yesterday, “Obama Team Backed $535 Million Solyndra Aid as Auditor Warned on Finances.” If you replace “backed” with “touted,” that would be accurate. But the headline makes it seem like the White House had decided to give $535 million to a company after an auditor had said it was financially troubled.
You have to read half the story to learn that the loan guarantee was made in 2009 and the audit was done in 2010 after market conditions had sharply worsened. And the Bloomberg story never explains that the company itself raised $250 million from private investors after the supposedly devastating audit.
To set the record straight, Climate Progress is publishing this timeline — verified by Department of Energy officials — that shows how the loan guarantee came together under both administrations. In fact, rather than rushing the loan for Solyndra through, the Obama Administration restructured the original Bush-era deal to further protect the taxpayers’ investment:
(Timeline is all there, beginning in 2005 at ThinkProgress - too big to paste here)
Meanwhile, after complaining about stimulus funds moving too slowly, Congressmen Fred Upton and Cliff Stearns are now claiming that the Administration was pushing funds out the door too quickly: “In the rush to get stimulus cash out the door, despite repeated claims by the Administration to the contrary, some bets were bad from the beginning.”
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Why is it that the media continues to report on stories they don't bother to check? Why is it that the media is all on board with whatever the GOP decides to spin?
We've become a nation of liars. And when the media is part of it, then Houston, we have a problem. A BIG problem.
We should demand more accountability, but we don't. We just love being lied to.
Where has our integrity gone? The corporate media isn't in the journalism business. They're in the revenues business only. And that is how we became a nation of liars.
As long as it makes money, the corporate media heads don't care about integrity. And ratings. Not truth.
First Read was responsible enough to bring us this story about Mr. Cain. A man who is running for the presidency. What he said should be in every headline in every newspaper. I guarantee it will be ignored.
And it is this very same media who try to tell President Obama how to lead. Are they kidding?
Thanks for putting that out there Pat!
I was researching the exact same thing this morning, as usual you did a MUCH better job! ;o)
It's going to be up to US to keep the TRUTH front & center!
As so eloquently demonstrated around First Read daily!
PS: By all means bring on a special investigator!
Yes it's everyone else who is full of hate and lies...
Where's the hate MO?
What is the lie MO?
It's a major news story MO, In every paper. What are you so upset about? Don't you want to know the truth?
Obviously there are a lot of people who do. Why are you so afraid of this story?
http://www.google.com/search?q=solyndra+scandal&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Pat-
Thinkprogress? Really? Got ANY other CREDIBLE, nonpartisan sources? I'd like to read them...
It’s often claimed that the Solyndra loan guarantee was “rushed through” by the Obama Administration for political reasons. In fact, the Solyndra loan guarantee was a multi-year process that the Bush Administration launched in 2007.
You’d never know from the media coverage that:
Source: Clean Technica (http://s.tt/13giD)
http://cleantechnica.com/2011/09/15/solyndra-advanced-by-bush-for-2-years-solyndra-timeline/
Solyndra Scandal Continues To Grow For White House
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/584844/201109141845/Solyndra-Scandal-Continues-To-Grow-For-White-House.htm
JEFFREY BROWN: There is one more question in our time left, one more issue. That's -- another story that got a lot of attention this week is the -- Solyndra, the solar-panel company, got major government loans, then went bankrupt, questions about whether the White House and how much the White House helped push it, push those loans.
Is this an important story, do you think?
RUTH MARCUS: It is looking important. It is a terrible story for the White House at the absolutely worst time.
If you were talking about whether we needed another program to help create jobs and more government spending to help create jobs, the thought that the government knowingly, recklessly, potentially, risked money to a company that had a huge lobbying presence, a huge fund-raising presence is just the exact opposite of the story the White House wants. And whether or not there is real fire there, the smoke is terrible for them.
DAVID BROOKS: There's the scandal involving that, the potential scandal, but then the bigger problem is that they have this big program, tens of billions of dollars which they hope to use to create 65,000 jobs. So far, they have created something like 3,000 jobs.
And so the green energy package -- or the green jobs package, which was really for three years a centerpiece of Obama's energy package, it may be good policy because we may get some innovative technologies. It is not a jobs policy. The jobs are simply not being created in green energy.
JEFFREY BROWN: What about the potential scandal, though? Where is that being pushed and where might it lead?
DAVID BROOKS: Well, the scandal would be that in part because there is a big Democratic donor supporting Solyndra, in part because it seems that, within the government, within the bureaucracy, even the professional bureaucracy, some of the steps you take to get this loan were bypassed.
And there may have been pressure from the White House to get people to bypass these steps.
RUTH MARCUS: And there was concern expressed at the Office of Management and Budget about whether it made sense to extend or renew, or whatever it was, this loan and how that was going to look and whether taxpayer money was going to be even further put at risk.
That is just not -- it's not -- it's not just good -- it's not just bad optics; it may be bad facts.
JEFFREY BROWN: And this is the kind of thing it looks as though people are looking into harder and harder?
RUTH MARCUS: Well, there's an incentive. You have a Republican -- this is the impact of a Republican-controlled House.
And I'm not complaining about that, because I have talked a lot about the importance of congressional oversight. And we're seeing some congressional oversight here. It's not always pleasant for the people who are being overseen.
JEFFREY BROWN: All right.
Ruth Marcus and David Brooks, thanks a lot.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec11/brooksandmarcu_09-16.html
Ruth Marcus is full of hate and lies?
RAY SUAREZ: Now, this is a company that approached the Bush administration for a similar kind of help and was in the process of this request. It got handed over to the new administration.
Did it not get approved during the Bush term because there were perceived problems with it then or was it on its way?
CAROL LEONNIG: There's a lot of spin on both sides on that. It's a great question that you ask. It's true that they applied under the Bush administration program, which was eventually recycled essentially by the Obama administration and given new life.
But the problem with the Bush administration program is, it was never really fully funded, so applicants complained bitterly that they couldn't -- it wasn't really attractive to them. The White House says, you know, look, the Bush administration was looking at this program. They thought Solyndra was really attractive.
On the other hand, Republicans point out that as -- literally as the Bush administration was walking out the door, there were committee meetings to discuss, should we move forward with this loan? And the vote was, no, we have more questions about cash issues, actually.
So were they about to land a big loan with the Bush administration? Unlikely. Were they being reviewed as a serious contender? It looks like they were.
RAY SUAREZ: To be continued.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec11/solyndra_09-14.html
Where's the hate?
What's the lie?
You evidently don't read your own posts or any of the other troll posts dangerfield. That's all you tea people GOP republicans have is lies and hate.
Where MO?
What is a lie?
Where is the hate?
Please expose the lies and hate here for all to see...
Is Ruth Marcus a tea person?
Is PBS a right wing/GOP outlet?
What is a lie MO?
Why are you so afraid of this story?
Let's just suppose that you're a liberal/progressive deeply committed to "green" technology, and federal government investment in that technology.
This is First Read...it's not hard to imagine that, is it?
You should be horrified about what happened with Solyndra.
Because it's likely that government "investment" in enterprises like Solyndra, promising or not, will grind to a halt.
Whatever your political ideology...Solyndra ought to scare the bejesus out of you.
Mo - other than you coming off like an idiot 99% of the time why don't you chase down other FR lib posters when they continue to harp on on what someone from the right says. Wisconsin had a lot of hang time attached to it earlier this year.
Care to tell us how many FR libs you chastised for bringing it up after 2 weeks? lol, how about bush2?
I thought so.
“Political correctness is not one of my strong points,” he said, to laughter and applause.
PC serves NO purpose except to hide the way people really feel on issues, especially when it comes to politics. It's refreshing to at least know where someone stands. Give the man credit for that!
Name me one politician that didn't change his rhetoric once elected. You think Cain would be any different?
Cain will not be elected President - but if he was he would probably be a guy who would in fact not change his rhetoric, certainly not to the extent that others have. Its just his style for better or worse
Good lord man, Cain has waffled on everything from Israel to gun control.
Leona -- political correctness is just another name for manners.
thats how every Republican thinks of latino,s as dogs wake up latino voters. your voting your self out of rights.
liberals assume latinos are always automatic votes for Democrats who have done absolutely nothing for them....don't count your chickens before they hatch...Latino voters have much in common with conservative view points from unemployment and work-ethic to immigration (in spite of all the liberal media bias misrepresentation...conservatives are pro-immigration...just want legal immigration) to values....
this assumption will some day soon bite libs in the a$$ since Latino voters are Americans not to be simply thrown into some slam dunk voting block
Yep, because Latinos REALLY appreciate the conservative talking points about how all of them came here illegally, and what lawbreakers they are!
Is that all Latinos NNDR?
Or just the ones who look Asian? ala Sharon Angle...
Threatening to shoot Latinos from helicopters is NO way to garner support...
PS: Top of the mornin to ya! ;o)
You, too Feisty! Heading outside to play! Beautiful here, good fall weather.
nice paraphrase of the KS Republican state legislator wanting to hunt them from a helicopter. I'm sure all latinos are immune to the term anchor babies?
the amount of derision provided those of latino descent from the right is appalling,...but, there are those in every constituency who don't see themselves as their 'peers' do.
need I mention the subject of this article? I don't want to use the term monolithic; but if the rallies are any indication,...it's a very narrow canopy.
Ya Gregor, Latino's really like it when the tea people GOP republicans yell deport them all, their not one of us. They're not thrown in some voting block, they choose to vote Democratic. And who could blame them not voting for (as Cain and one of the other tea people GOP republican trolls put it) stupid politicians.
Mo, the O'bama administration has increased the number of deportations of illegal immigrants since being in office...question: are the Dems a hypocrite party that promises latinos support to get their votes only to turn on them when in office?
If you would look at the deportations your yammering about, you'd see that they weren't just illegal immigrants, they were also criminals. Keep hoping that Latino's will turn and support the tea people GOP republicans, that ain't going to happen as long as you are mean and nasty to them.
wait, so now your calling illegal immigrants criminals? I think you just crossed over to my position? (oh relax, i'm just kidding we need some levity now and then around here...)
there have been some comments out there that were poorly phrased, true. but the "mean and nasty to them" is an incorrect characterization of the conservative view on illegal immigration largely derived from the liberal talking point playbook....
conservatives are pro immigration, we are a nation of immigrants
Looks like our immigration problems are over. We just need to get those Mexicans crossing the border to wear invisible fence dog collars. Why didn't we ever think of that before?
The republicans wonder why we will be voting for President Obama.
I have to agree with Cain. It's stupid people ruining this country, like the tea people GOP republicans, thanks Mr. Cain for being honest and pointing that out. If you need proof of what Mr. Cain says, just look at the tea people GOP republicans in the house and senate.
ROTLMAO!!! Mo you are almost as priceless as fiesty when it comes to absurd humor. The tea people are ruining the country? The GOP republicans are ruining the country.
You sir,take absurdity to a new level and you seriously impugn the ability of the democrat obama to lead America. Bet even sen. reid (D) the senate leader would take exception to your absurdity.
The right is making an effort to bring spending under control, and yes in the past they spent just as foolishly as and democrat. At least the tea party woke them up about the errors of their ways. When will obama and company wake up?
Wow, just wow!
It appears that you libbys want to go to heaven. I understand that. What I don't get is where you people got the idea that someone else is gonna die to get you there. The whole concept of heaven came about because life here on earth is supposed to be hard and exact consequences for choices. You folks want the orgasm all to yourself but want the community to pay for the consequences. I'll buy that nonsence when the community orgasm is invented. Till then take care of your own brood and I'll take care of mine.
That has to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read jed.
I'll take that as a complement considering the source. Parted your hair as it flew by did it?
Flew by, it thudded on the sidewalk in front of me. It sort of sounds like you are accusing liberals of having republican religious values. You know Jesus died for our sins.
Then the orgasm I want to myself, I am sure is supposed to stand as a metaphor for something.
I get your basic premise I got mine and f the rest of the world. Basic stingy, self-centered, anti-christian, anti-American, anti-life except for the unborn republican tea party thinking.
What I did was make mistakes. Learn from them by suffering the consequences without asking for help, so as not to repeat them. Why should anyone pay for someone else's bad life choices. Like having children without a means of supporting them. Like wanting to flip burgers as a life's calling? Like being lazy and irresponsible? Like drinking, drugging, partying, dating etc on the weekend and then sending your kids to school on Monday without lunch money because they qualify for freebies and public assistance. Life is hard for people who make bad choices. Gets even harder when others cosign that behavior by making life easier for them.
jed, who the hell are you talking about? Or should I say what the hell are you talking about? Dude...lay off the caffeine!
At least we know we have to work to be able to go to heaven jed233. You tea people GOP republicans think you're entitled to heaven.
Still not a mention of the concept of paying for bad choices yourself. HHHmmmmm. Avoidance? And how come I can't find anyone where I work that thinks like you guys. Or where I go to church or other business that we do business with. Or the local CoC meetings or anywhere employeed people are likely to be found. Where do you guys hang out?
Now I understand jeb233. You don't have any contact with normal people. When all you communicate with is tea people GOP republican all you get is one side of the argument, so you don't have any choice but to buy into the lies they tell you.
So Jed claiming to be a christian are we? I have heard that Jesus was stingy like the tea party, he was probably in the tea crowd cheering the death of someone without health insurance.
Jesus probably also said you take care of yours and I will take care of mine. I thought Jesus cared for the poor, guess I was wrong.
Jesus said that charity from the church should take care of the poor. The government has all the money you guys covet. The rich have some the working middleclass have some but the government has control of the wealth of this nation. Doing wonders with it ain't they?
If you think crying for help after making a bad decision is a liberal phenomenon, well that explains all I need to know about you.
No, the liberal phenomenon is crying for help after the 10th similar bad decision because they got bailed out of the first 9 by other libbys. Thinking you should be able to raise a family with a skill set that will keep you flipping burgers or greeting folks at wally world IS a liberal phenomenon
Jed, are you on glue? Try some words in your first line so we can know what the heck you are talking about.
Your post don't make much sense. The republicans are the one trying to kill education so that the only skill set jobs available are the less than minimum wage that the corporations want to pay while claiming they are bringing you freedom.
It appears you are blaming liberals for what the republicans are doing. I guess that is what is like in the tea party world.
Is there a full moon out? What the heck is jed trying to communicate to us? The only thing I am getting out of it is that he has no understanding of the ministry of Jesus Christ.
you just want to argue for the sake of arguing and you are not making any sense at all. Heaven? Orgasm?
Yeah, go ahead and call me stupid.
If you are unemployed or working for low wages or lost your home or lost a huge part of your retirement funds or are frightened for your economic future and you voted Republican, you got exactly what you deserve. No more. No less.
you could write your exact post and roll the date back to Nov 08 and replace the word Republican with Democrat...and that's how we got O'bamanomics
Forget the scope of the devastation the W Bush years wrought? did we gregor? No mortal could have done any better, given the massive Republican opposition to correcting the problems. You morons are just too embarassed to admit it.
1st, in the words of Dick Cheney go f*@k yourself for calling me a moron you don't even know me....
2nd, yes Bush was a disaster and so was the Democrat controlled House and Senate in 2007,2008,2009 and 2010
Nov 12 is time to right the ship and that goes for any Republican who is part of the problem too
If bush was a disaster, how is righting the ship another republican? If wars and multiple tax cuts for the rich caused the problem how is more and permanent tax cuts for the rich while still at war going to solve our problems?
You just said you thought bush was a disaster and then you state your choice is to continue with the bush economic plan and this time tax cuts will create jobs or destroy America just like Norquist and his republican pledges want.
I did not say I wanted Bush economic plans.....he spent too much and turned into the opposite of what he ran on (if you remember he originally ran on "not being a nation builder....") and he reached out to liberals in the congress too much
plus, there is the issue of our country and homeland being attacked but I think trying to agree on the effects of this is probably a waste of both of our time
there are plenty of repubs who are wanting to rework the tax structure as well so there is more to it than some Norquist tax pledge
real world - so bush2 had no democrat support in any of the policies he signed into law during his two terms? must have also meant that with the democrats in the congressional majority during 2007-2008 the democrats always said no to bush2.
Still trying to blame obamas short comings on bush2 I see. Sorry sweety, obama offered "hope and change" but delivered on neither. I can't recall any POTUS (L or R) that has gone out of his way to belittle and chastise the opposition party. Plenty of senators and house members have done so over time, but POTUS's? methinks not, they all wanted to be unifiers in common policies, not dividers like obama.
Tell us, you dippy do, shlt eating diarrhea breath idiot, does the preceding 7 words make you angry and want to go against any policies I might want to present or do they make you want to say, whatever I am for, you are for as well? Now don't lie you pea brain moron... just in case you were wavering in your answer. Get the point?
Rather amazing that obama waited until 2010 to invite the minority leaders of congress to the WH for any type of personal face time. Big time slap in the face there.
If your child graduated from college and is faced with a crushing loan debt and can't find a job and you voted Republican, you got exactly what you deserve.
If you have medical problems and can't get insurance and voted Republican, you got exactly what you deserved.
wait, McCain was no star but I voted Republican back in 08 and instead I got Obama and after 3 years we have 9.1% unemployment, a 3 year and counting worsening housing crisis, a record # of Americans on Food Stamps, a 52 year high # of Americans living in poverty, the 1st ever credit downgrade in our history, $4 per gallon gas, out of control record spending and deficits and an entire country stuck in an economic malaise.....
If McCain had been elected we would be in a full blown depression and in a new war with Iran and with our boots on the ground in Libya with American's dying everywhere. Including America as McCain would cut all services for the poor (republicans wouldn't be for giving the hungry food stamps) for more tax cuts for the rich. Social security would be on its way to being privatized and medicare would be gone and even more living in poverty.
The first downgrade in history was caused by the tea party. We all know it, but like your other lies you want to blame President Obama.
americans first, I see you are still trying to hold onto your top spot in the SIASD club. If I could qualify for membership I would surely vote for you. lmao!
Obama and company was the one who ignored S&P's warning in april 2011. A warning I might add that the US needed to develop a medium and long term plan for addressing Americas debt. You know, the potus is supposed to be a uniter, not a divider. Perhaps obama needed to spend more time minding the store than campaigning.
Gregor, do you honestly think all this bad crap happended in just 3 short years? Get a grip, step back and let reality sink in. We are suffering from decisions that were made and actions that were committed 10 years ago.
no, I don't think its all happened in just 3 short years however I do think this President has thrown gas on the fire and truly seems incapable of leading the country in the right direction
I see him as incredibly partisan and divisive, a thin-skinned narcissist who has not only failed to unite the country but has taken us in the opposite direction. No, i didn't vote for him but I still wanted my country heading back on top and rocking economically -
You mean the debt that bush and the republicans left us? That rocking economy?
How has President Obama failed to unite the country, by giving the republicans everything they wanted? In the debt ceiling the republicans were bragging they got 98% of what they wanted. Obama has bent over backwards trying to work with the republicans and you claim it is his fault because the republicans won't do anything for America.
Maybe if you really wanted some change, try contacting your republican congress person and ask them to quit obstructing everything that could help America. They are the problem, not President Obama.
you have to stop the blame Bush game when does O'bama have any accountability? Or he just gets a complete pass because he's a liberal?
2 years of 100% control of all government so stop the blame Republican congress thing as well......if they were reversed would you be saying Bush isn't accountable after 3 years? we both know you would not
2 years of 100% control of all government is the biggest lie republicans tell. You remember Lieberman, the one that campaigned for McCain, he is one that you count in the 100% control lie.
Seems like the only way republicans can look good is by lying and blaming Obama for things that bush or republicans did. So far I have not heard the republicans hold bush accountable for anything. Starting with bush running the wars off debt and when Obama added bush's war debt it happened on Obama's watch and now the huge debt was all done by Obama faster than bush. The downgrade, the tea people brought this credit downgrade on us and now you blame President Obama.
The wars and then giving multiple tax cuts during war is the opposite of all common fiscal wisdom, if the republican felt any kind of responsiblility they would be begging our forgiveness for the huge debt and be raising taxes on the richest right now.
hmmmm, democrats had majority control of both the senate and the house from jan 2007 to jan 2011. What is your problem with that? Hardly a lie. The democrat controlled senate would have had a far easier time in filibustering any republican backed bills coming up for a vote. Perhaps since you seem so knowledgeable, you can come up with republican backed bills that made it out of commitee, either the senate or house.
King, so where were the democrat senators and house members during this time? Partying hard at your house? Other than running off at the mouth, why not list the exact policies that bush made without democrats support during his 8 years in office. Remember, any votes in support of any policy passed during his two terms by a democrat will be thrown out as invalid.
BTW - the following question is far easier...How is it that NO ECONOMIST OR POLITICIAN has ever been able to predict (with certainty) that a recession will occur and when? Just think, recessions occur every 7 to 12 years in the US, just look at the historical government data if you doubt this. Also, using hindsite to answer the question of who is also invalid. Enjoy!
[2 years of 100% control of all government...]
gregor and "american"...
...it was bull@!$%# when you first propagated this lie, and it's STILL bull@!$%#...
...it was about six months...but let's take a look at that "super-majority", shall we?
FACT: The "Democrat super-majority" was a myth, or
rather, a GOP political spin to hide their actions.
FACT: The GOP used every roadblock, filibuster, and secret hold
they could think of so that EVERY bill had to have a 60-vote margin to pass.
So that "Huge, overwhelming super-majority," It existed only for a total of 6 months AND only during two periods when Teddy Kennedy and/or Robert Byrd were unable to vote AND required them to get the votes of every Democrat plus BOTH independents.
While we are most certainly entitled to our own opinions, we are most certainly NOT entitled to our own facts.
Make sure to save a copy of that Mickey - it's a given they will continue to propagate this deliberate misinformation the closer we draw to the election! ;o)
[Make sure to save a copy of that Mickey...]
Already done... :-/
When you are young if you are not liberal, you have no heart. When you grow up and are not conservative you have no head.
Of the sum total of all money stolen in the USA in 2010, 92% of it was stolen by crooks who had what in common? A college education.
How many were republicans? How much do you want to bet, that those wall street guys that robbed America were college educated republicans. Then the college educated republicans in congress are fighting to keep tax cuts for those very same wall street guys that robbed you.
A college education is not what makes you a crook. It is putting money above all and thinking that somehow you are more important and your rights are more important because you have money even if it's robbed money.
I am 62, a liberal and it took wisdom to realize that people are more important than money. That how we treat our fellow man is more important than money. You tea people claim to be Christians right? Did Jesus preach giving or being stingy?
So let's educate illegal mexicans. Duhhhh.,
This Idiot now as a GOP rightwing nut who got to where he is by every freebee and affirmative ACTION benefit is the type that now wants to take away the benefits that the poor,sick,elderly and needy get . I bet a check of his background will turn up a few of the above listed freebees he got and used.He isn't even considered as a viable candidate so he doesn't have to worry about the big job.
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All you liberals whining like that, trying to find a connection between dogs and Mexicans. You know what he meant, and you are all messed up if you can't even understand the need to protect our borders.
Liberals are so stupid, just like Herman says. Sad state of affairs, the dumbing down of America due to the public school system and the union teachers.
Herman has my vote, and in my mind HE will be the first American black president. The other guy is a Kenyan marxist, and oh, so un-American. With a wife who lived here from birth who was never proud of her country. Maybe she should leave, like all the Mexicans who aren't proud of their country do.
Shame on the Obamas, cheers to Herman Cain.