Hallooo Fellow 98%-ers!
If you want the top 2% to pay up the revs and put our country back on track, click your heels together.

If you want to end tax breaks for the wealthy, tax loopholes for Big Oil &+corporate jets, hoot and holler.
If you are against Speaker Boehner's plan of repairing our roads & bridges in exchange for increased oil drilling, stamp your feet.
If you want to extend unemployment benefits, knock your knees together.
If you want schools to be modernized and repaired, flap your arms.
If you want to keep the AJA as one piece so it doesn't get watered down to nothing as per usual, blink your eyes.
If you want to cut taxes for middle class and small businesses, wiggle your nose.
If you want to stop our wealthiest citizens paying lower taxes than their secretaries, puff out your cheeks.
If you want to cut taxes for working families, flex your abs.
If you want to find temp work to build skills, do a push-up.
If you want summer work for disadvantaged youth, hum a tune.
If you want jobs for construction workers, teachers, vets, young people and longterm unemployed, give us a smile.
If you want to put our police, firefighters and first responders back to work, whistle a happy tune.
(feels good, phew)
If you have or will now call/write your reps. and sens. to pass American Jobs Bill, congrats and have a fantastic Friday.
LET'S PUT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY BACK TO WORK!

Obama in 2012.

Feisty, it's Reagan's Voo Doo version all over again.

Backhouse, well said!

I was a little bit disappointed, but, not the least bit surprised when my two favorite MSDNC comedy shows (Wiffleball and De Rev.) did the Nasty Redhead silent shuffle on Solyndragate last night:

“move along, there’s nothing to see here, move along”

Just imagine the loud, leftously-indignant, full-of-sh!t, 24/7/365 coverage they would have given it if it was as big an embarrassment for GWB as it’s going to be for their Messiah, Barry!!!

Oh well, they are only delaying the inevitable. And, as history shows, the cover-up is worse than the crime.

I see many, many, LMAO’s on Solyndragate in my future.

Solyndra / Solargate …. Whatever

Time to add a few government jobs that ….repubs will be for and dems will be against?

Special prosecutor and staff as no joe suggested yesterday.

Obama and his big bundler, $535 million down the drain …. Blah blah blah ….but let's just cut the Obama bullsh!t and get to the chase.

The White House has already been caught lying as e-mails have revealed.

They ignored /pressured the GAO and OMB.

There was no question about Solyndra’s credit worthyness – Fitch rated them as a B+ …… THAT’S A NONINVESTMENT RATING FOR ANYONE.

Do they not have an internet connection at the White House?

[Bush distraction / bs? The Obama people tell everyone that Bush was looking at it. They conveniently forget to mention that they (Energy Department’s credit committee) voted NO on Jan. 9 2008.]

The big deal is that Obama put his Tulsa oil billionaire bundler’s millions before the American taxpayer’s HALF BILLION.

Deliberate, despicable and wanton disregard for Americans.

Trust our Justice Department with Eric Holder? ….You got to be kidding…..

no joe’s right – it’s time to get a special prosecutor.

Maybe Obama can create a job, huh?

Feisty

What exactly IS Boehner's JOBS plan??

Anyone care to answer?

Good morning Feisty

To cry about not getting enough tax cuts and lobby money from his coal contributions.

Backhouse
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If you want to bankrupt the country and screw your children and grandchildren, vote Democrat.

Happy Friday Everyone!

Checkout what the libbies are saying today!

rerun of the same failed policies that got us into this mess in the first place!

Sounds a lot like our opinion of Obama's 'Jobs' bill!

Hahahahaha!

"If you love me, you've got to help me pass this bill!" - Barack Obama

Got narcissism?

No one here to trumpet the amazing new economic program of John Boehner and the other Conservative Republicans? Not really a surprise. From new polling:

Though most Americans disapprove of both parties in Congress, they disapprove of Republicans more. Seventy-two percent of Americans disapprove of the job Republicans in Congress are doing, compared to 63 percent who disapprove of the Democrats in Congress.

Among Democrats, more approve than disapprove of the job Democrats in Congress are doing. That is reversed for Republicans - more of them disapprove than approve of the job members of their own party are doing in Congress. Independents disapprove of both parties in Congress.

In keeping with Congress' dismal review, just 6 percent of registered voters think most members deserve re-election - the lowest percentage ever in CBS News Polls during the past 20 years, and a lower percentage than the 9 percent who thought so right before the 2010 midterms.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20107148-503544.html?tag=stack

That's right, will Americans are upset with the job our politicians are doing and are particularly fed up with Congress, they're ESPECIALLY disgusted with the performance of Republicans. The numbers are becoming very ominous for Republicans in the 2012 elections.

There is no way a White House Chief of Staff is going to be able to sugar coat Obama's poor leadership. We just need to look for a better President in 2012. Thankfully alot of 1st time voters are taking thier choice for the next President seriously this time. Don't give up on America we'll be back.....

The president has to keep taking his case to the people, concerning the passage of the Jobs Bill. Of course Boehner and his Republican-Tea Potty Thugs have one goal, and one goal only is to Defeat President Obama, at no matter the cost to the American people

So, the President has to pull back the olive branch and replace it with a sledge hammer. Then he has to lay more facts out there, such as the first the stimulus package did work and the facts check shows that the first stimulus package created millions of jobs. Also, let's not forget the 17 Billion with a B that Texas got to balance their budget.

Second the facts show that there were more regulations on business in the 1990s than there are today. So, this is just another lie by Boehner and his Republican-Tea Potty Thugs.

It's sad that this far right movement gets crazier every day and they will say and do anything, while their base just gets on board their crazy train.

Many of these folks on the right are just un-patriotic Americans, who want to kill jobs in order to defeat President Obama.

Sure is a lot of yammering from the RWNJ's about a special prosecutor on the Solyndra *gasp* scandal...

I'm starting to think they may be on to something...

While we're at it we should schedule one for the Bush/Cheney/Halliburton LIED us into a war scandal!

Two for the price of one... now if that isn't cost effective I don't know what is... ;o)

Feisty -

How can Boehner have a job plan when he is incapable of understading a job description - HIS! He insists upon believing He is President instead of Obama, or at least he keeps acting that way.

Why won't he just stettle down and do the job he is supposed to do? [i.e. effectively LEGISLATE!]

Checkout what the libbies are saying today!

Does your boss know you're stealing time from him?

For someone who openly admitted you were only allowed here on your lunch hour, you sure are spending quite a bit of time here lately...

LIE - CHEAT & STEAL is the right wing nut way...

You Libs better get busy! You have to find someone to blame for the pending double-dip recession. Someone other than the real culprit, Barack H. Obama.

It's certain that you'll make something up.

Looks like JS1 is becoming so desperate she's now making up quotes from President Obama.

We shouldn't be surprised, Speaker Boehners "jobs" bill is just more of the same servitude to the ultra wealthy that has led Congress to a 12% approval rating, with an upside down approval/disapproval for Republicans AMONG MEMBERS OF THEIR OWN PARTY!

Regarding Solyndra: "Defeat is not the worst of failures. Not to have tried is the true failure." George Edward Woodberry. If we as a country--whether private or public industry, research and development or innovation--do not take risks, we will lose the future. The GOPTP is looking for scandal. Were mistakes made? Maybe, maybe not. Was the owner honest? Maybe, maybe not. Or is it more likely that the only reason Solyndra went bankrupt was because of the Great Recession, the bad economy; people and businesses are holding on to their money and not investing in the future?

“Bill Daley Leaves Some Democrats Longing For Rahm Emanuel.” (Who would have ever thought you’d see that headline in HuffPo, of all places?)

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The President is America's CEO. The most important talent a CEO needs to be successful is the ability to surround themselves with extremely competent advisors and staff. Without them, the CEO is doomed to be failure. Sorry, Barry, one and done.

Is it Daley's fault Republicans put party and service to the wealthy elites above country?

John B, Des Moines, IA: Looks like JS1 is becoming so desperate she's now making up quotes from President Obama.

THE PRESIDENT: I love you back. But first -- but if you love me -- if you love me, you got to help me pass this bill. If you love me, you got to help me pass this bill.

Source: http://www2.nbc17.com/news/wake-county/2011/sep/14/complete-text-president-obamas-speech-raleigh-ar-1391299/

The Libs making up lies. That's typical of the Left though, you have deny reality to be a Liberal.

The Coal Industry Backs Boehner with $1.5 Million in Donations — “We Think He Is Good for Business”

U.S. coal companies have pumped $1.5 million into House Speaker John Boehner’s political operation this year, a sign of the industry’s beefed-up efforts to fight new and proposed regulations from the Obama administration.

The coal industry now ranks as one of the top sources of cash for the Ohio Republican, rivaling such perennial GOP donors as Wall Street and the real-estate industry. A large part of the coal industry’s donations came in a single week at the end of June.

Donations from coal-industry interests account for more than 10% of the $12.5 million Mr. Boehner collected from Jan. 1 to June 30 for fund-raising accounts he directly controls. Mr. Boehner’s personal campaign account collected less than $200,000 from the coal industry during the entire 2009-10 election cycle.

The cash flowing to Mr. Boehner’s coffers stems partly from the GOP’s efforts to roll back the Obama administration’s environmental and energy policies since taking control of the House in 2010, and replace them with fewer regulations in order to boost domestic energy production. Republicans say proposals to curb pollution from coal-fired power plants and limit mining threaten to raise energy costs and stifle job-creation. The speaker has long been a backer of the coal industry, and many coal interests are based in his home state of Ohio.

In April, the House voted to prohibit the Environmental Protection Agency from regulating greenhouse-gas emissions from coal-fired power plants and other industrial sources. In July, the House approved legislation that would limit the EPA’s authority to veto water permits previously issued by the Army Corps of Engineers. Other measures benefiting the coal industry are still moving through the House, though they have gone nowhere in the Democratic-controlled Senate…..

One top donor to Mr. Boehner this year has been William Koch, president of Oxbow Corp., which owns a coal-mining operation. Mr. Koch and his wife contributed a total of $70,000 to Mr. Boehner, according to fund-raising records. Two of Mr. Koch’s brothers are well-known Republican contributors.

“We are a big supporter of John Boehner. We think he is good for business,” said Brad Goldstein, a spokesman for Oxbow, based in West Palm Beach, Fla. “He looks out for business interests, and he wants to create more jobs for America, while this administration has been rather harsh on the industry.”

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/09/13/317677/coal-industry-backs-bI'm suroehner/

Wouldn't you know it. Bone-Air is a Koch operative. He can't deny it.

John B: Is it Daley's fault Republicans put party and service to the wealthy elites above country?

It's Daley's fault because the Liberals can't blame Obama for being incompetent. Daley is just the scapegoat.

Waiting for your apology John. Your apology for accusing me of making up the stupid things Obama says.

Bright Source Energy got $1.37 billion from Obama to create 86 jobs – cost per job - $15.9 million.

Abengoa got $1.45 billion from Obama to create 85 jobs – cost per job - $17 million.

Want a bargain?

How about US Geothermal who got only $102.2 million to create 10 jobs.

That’s only $10.2 million per job and is actually below the average of $10.8 million per job of the over 3,000 jobs created with the Obama billions.

Solyndra and solar?

Three other solar companies have already failed this year too. And Obama is planning to double down on more solar loans.

Geothermal?

Top 5 – Ormat is down 25%, Ram Power is down 80%, Alterra is trading south of a buck, Nevada Geothermal has been downgraded to a sell after receiving $57.9 million Obamabucks.

Abengoa and all their stuff is down 17% which ain’t bad, but why is Obama giving $1.45 BILLION to a SPANISH COMPANY.

This is absurd. How can libs pretend that Obama cares about the unemployed?

The democrat party is in disarray. Poor leadership, infighting and just the wrong vision for the United States of America have driven the party down to its lowest level. Pulitzer Prize winning author Ron Suskind’s new book “Confidence Men” reveals the inner non-workings of the WH. It features a tax cheat Treasury Secretary Geithner refusing to follow orders. You have a president who is way over his head and never should have been elected (error corrected 11/12) shown as frustrated and agitated.

So instead of all the whining and complaining about the Republicans not supporting the president, the Hilly impersonators on here of Feisty, Beverly, Nash, Navy, et. al. ladies ought to clean up their own house and hold their party accountable for the failures. No one with one ounce of intelligence would expect the opposition to kowtow to your nonsensical rants while your own party is not kowtowing to the anointed one. Ladies how are you enjoying your Hilly “PIE” that you so rightly deserve?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/15/tim-geithner-ignored-obama-order_n_965404.html

Suskind's book supports other accounts of disagreement among advisers over how large a stimulus was necessary to revive the economy and how aggressively to deal with financial institutions that had become "too big to fail."

Larry Summers, the former White House economic adviser, is quoted as lamenting that he and others felt "home alone" and that mistakes made under Obama would not have happened under President Clinton, for whom Summers also served. Interviewed by Suskind, Summers initially denied making such comments, then acknowledged them, saying he was frustrated at having "five issues" of major importance to deal with at once and not "five times as many" officials to handle them.

The book says one of Obama's top advisers, former chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, was not the president's first choice for the position. According to Suskind, Emanuel's name was not even on the initial short list, which included White House aide Pete Rouse.

Breaking News (for those uninformed) Forbes just listed San Antonio, El Paso and Austin – all in Texas – in the top 12 cities in this country that have the best outlook for jobs. In fact San Antonio is #1. Damn I love those four aces. Here’s some more Hilly PIE ladies. Enjoy and munch down on a second piece ROFLMAO!!!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44543246/ns/business-forbes_com/#.TnNNGdS4KSo

“We do see some bright spots in hiring, especially in San Antonio, which has the most promising hiring outlook for the fourth quarter,” says Jonas Prising, president of the Americas at ManpowerGroup. “Employers in other markets in Texas, including El Paso and Austin, are also anticipating strong hiring increases.”

The San Antonio metro area enjoys a 17 percent net employment outlook, the percentage of employers that expect to add employees (25 percent) minus the percentage that expect to reduce their workforce (8 percent). Another 64 percent said they anticipate no change, and 3 percent didn’t know.

“San Antonio has continued to see new jobs created, and new jobs brought to the region,” says Richard Perez, president and chief executive of the Greater San Antonio Chamber of Commerce. “I would say that San Antonio is well positioned to come out ahead in the future as well because our cost of living remains low, making it a good environment for companies to increase their investment in jobs here, plus we have a very talented labor pool because we graduate more than 30,000 from our colleges and universities each year.”

The industry with the largest economic impact and largest number of employees in San Antonio is health care and biosciences, with more than 142,000 employees, Perez says. “This surprises a lot of people who think we are only a tourism town. One of every five workers is in the health care sector, and it has an estimated $24 billion economic impact here. We also have large manufacturing and financial services sectors. And yes, we have a significant tourism industry in San Antonio, with approximately 106,000 employees.”

The largest employers in the San Antonio area include the Department of Defense, whose workplaces include Fort Sam Houston, Lackland Air Force Base and Randolph Air Force Base. Combined they employ over 70,000 individuals. The largest corporate employer is San Antonio-based financial services firm United Services Automobile Association, with 14,800 employees. H-E-B Grocery Company follows close behind with 14,600 workers. AT&T, Toyota, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Valero Energy, Harland Clarke and Citibank are some of the area’s other major corporate employers.

“San Antonio’s list of large employers is long and diverse,” Perez says. “We do not rely heavily on one area and that is by design. San Antonio has many industries that together keep us a resilient economy. We are fortunate to have many strong industries, and many strong companies with large employee bases.”

Obama carnival barking in North Carolina:

"There is a lot of work that needs to be done in schools and airports. All these things are in need of repair. In North Carolina alone, there are 153 structurally deficient bridges that need to be repaired. Four of them are near here, on or around the Beltline. Why would we wait to act until another bridge falls? All across North Carolina, all across the country, there are schools with leaking ceilings and lousy heating; ventilation so poor it can make students sick. How can we expect our kids to do their best in places like that?"

Source: http://www2.nbc17.com/news/wake-county/2011/sep/14/complete-text-president-obamas-speech-raleigh-ar-1391299/

What about the pot-holes Barry? Those are dangerous too. And with many roads, the lines need to be repainted, that makes them really unsafe, those roads really should be closed. And little Jimmy tripped and skinned his knee on a school playground, that problem needs to be fixed too.

My God, the humanity. How did this country get so far with all these problems we have?

Quotes out of context are also lies. Thanks for exposing yourself. Most of us knew that already, but just for those not paying attention.

You'll be waiting a long time for an apology. You've been proven wrong too many times to deserve one.

Keep working for an effective diversion, you still haven't distracted us from the fact that the Boehner plan is still more trickle down, upward redistribution of wealth.

Pass the American Jobs Act now.

Joe, good morning sir! I have not observed a collective case of Amnesia like this in ......forever. Its like the left progressives crawled into the tequila barrel and smoked the worms. Totally forgetting everything that happened in the last few days. As I said before ...Pay no attention to the elections behind the curtain. The redheaded woodpecker goes right off topic on every article pushed on this blog and then spews and dribbles into "Ill say what ever I want to say followed by a few remarks that now women in my life would ever say in public. My favorite man of the hour is James Carville (I always liked watching him and his wife discuss)

" Mr. President, your hinge of fate must turn. Bill Clinton fired many people in 1994 and took a lot of heat for it. Reagan fired most of his campaign staff in 1980. Republicans historically fired their own speaker, Newt Gingrich. Bush fired Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. For God's sake, why are we still looking at the same political and economic advisers that got us into this mess? It's not working."

Followed by stating the Democrats are in pure panic mode!

Feisty... shouldn't you be in line right now to get your government cheese?

While we're at it we should schedule one for the Bush/Cheney/Halliburton LIED us into a war scandal!

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Barry and Holder have had almost three years to do what the Nasty Redhead is whining about, and yet, zip, zero, nada, nothing.

Nasty, maybe it's time to stop whining.

It is amazing that some of you "blind" followers actually believe that Obama is concerned about jobs given his track record. Obama is concerned with one thing and one thing only, his reelection. Which by all indication is in doubt.

Smart people will pay attention to his actions, not his "talking" points.

And I was "hoping" for an anniversary party for "recovery summer". Man I wanted that "free" shovel. What happened?

OK, now hit me with the hateful comments, name-calling and angry responses. LOL

Where's the media?

As far as bankruptcy goes, the federal government is usually first in line to retrieve any assets that's left over after the bankruptcy. However, we find ourselves last in line, even behind hedge fund companies.

Lawmakers say it could possibly be illegal to put tax payer last in line. Also, another law might have been broken, and that is if government continued to loan money knowing full well Solyndra had know way to pay back it.

Obama, still in campagine mode, asking, or telling the government to sign his job bill, NOW.

I think we should think twice before we dive into another stimilus. The total disregard for the taxpayers money is only highlighted but these current events.

"What exactly IS Boehner's JOBS plan??

Anyone care to answer?"

Boehner's plan:

suck.....blow
suck....blow
suck....flick an ash...blow...

In March 2010, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLC conducted an audit on Solyndra and raised questions about its ability to continue operation.

The results of the audit were made public shortly thereafter, and reported on by internet information provider CNET and others.

In May 2010, President Obama visited the Solydra solar panel manufacturing facility and declared that "The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra."

Did President Obama know that Solyndra's viability was in doubt when he spoke those words?

If he didn't know, why on earth didn't he?

Now the company is in bankruptcy, with U.S. taxpayers on the hook for $527 million in guaranteed loans, and Solyndra's 1100 employees have joined the ranks of the unemployed.

Why should we trust this Administration to "invest" in private-sector enterprises?

Is this Administration competent enough to be trusted?

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

What exactly IS Boehner's JOBS plan??

Boehner doesn't have a plan for jobs; he said his plan was for "job creators". You know, the same wealthy people who've made out like bandits during the Obama recovery but don't seem to have put much of those profits back into actually many creating jobs, except overseas in cheap labor markets. But giving them more tax breaks and weakening regulations so the can pollute more should do the trick. Yeah, that's the ticket!

Barry and Holder have had almost three years to do what the Nasty Redhead is whining about,

Much to my chagrin they chose to take the high road!

If it was up to me Bush & the Dick would be sporting snazzy orange jumpsuits by now!

John B: Quotes out of context are also lies.

Nice try John. You really need to quit with your lies, you're making the LibsRUs II crowd look miserably inadequate, as if they weren't before.

You'll be waiting a long time for an apology.

People like you, ones without any integrity, never back off of their lies.

Keep working for an effective diversion, you still haven't distracted us from the fact that the Boehner plan.

Diversion? I'm talking about Obama, now you're talking about Boehner. Sounds like you're the one coming up with a diversion.

You really look dopey on this one John. Up your game a tad next time, mmm-kay.

Hey Jolly, thanks for putting up the Carville quote, I hadn't seen that.

Sounds like the Left is itching for heads on a platter. Best to keep a low profile at the WH right about now. I say Daley, Carney and Geithner all get the axe.

Lions go 2-0 this week. Stafford looking at another big game!

You know, the same wealthy people who've made out like bandits during the Obama recovery

Would those be the same wealthy job creators who are currently hoarding 3 TRILLION dollars in assets?

Thought so! ;o)

Joe in Albany

I was a little bit disappointed, but, not the least bit surprised when my two favorite MSDNC comedy shows (Wiffleball and De Rev.) did the Nasty Redhead silent shuffle on Solyndragate last night:

I see many, many, LMAO’s on Solyndragate in my future.

I thought Anna Molly took care of you yesterday. You are just incapable of learning.

Here's your Review of what Anna tried to teach you yesterday (paraphased)

Repeat after me.

The Tea Potty thinks constantly making accusations and drawing horrendous conclusions makes Solyndra look just criminal. I don't see RepubliCons pushing for greater safety regulations for deep water drilling. Ohhh, there is a mining accident that needs to dealt with too.

http://www.oilspillcommission.gov/sites/default/files/documents/FinalReportIntro.pdf

You know we have the newly released BP Horizon report, which seems to find blame most definitely on BP's failure to obey industry standards -- not even government regulations -- for oversight and redundancy in safety systems. Perhaps that's a deflection away from the "BP Horizon report?"

http://www.oilspillcommission.gov/sites/default/files/documents/FinalReportIntro.pdf

Republicans always talk about taking a risk and less government regulation. But, now the "Risky Business" shouldn't be? However, regulations should because it is a Democratic White House. Give Me a Break. I'm not too old to forget Enron, S&L; BILLIONS of dollars LOST ON A SLAB ON A TRUCK IN IRAQ. Neither do I remember all this hula-buh-boo over everything suspect Georgie Boy did.

http://www.infowars.com/bbc-uncovers-23-billion-lost-in-iraq/

Furthermore, this was started under Bush. Solyndra’s chief executive is a registered Republican. And the Walton family, hardly flaming liberals, have invested in the company.That's right; there was a republican.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/toddwoody/2011/09/14/why-china-and-europe-dont-have-a-solyndra-problem/

Republicans and the Tea-Potty are a bunch of corrupt; contradictory, hypocrites.

Perhaps, the Tea Potty are making so much out of Solyndra so they can deflect attention from THAT report.

It would be tempting if the media would shine a light on that though. Nah, not a chance; there's too much Koch and Murdoch money to keep it in the dark for a while.

Do try and keep up.

Continue to LEAN FORWARD libs, it's a lot of fun watching you fall on your faces.

There was an article in the Houston Chronicle today about the Senate averting yet another shutdown of the FAA. It said the previous partial shutdown forced by the Senate Republicans a few months ago cost tax payers $400 million dollars. Now that the Republicans are investigating the $500 million cost of the Solyndra fiasco, maybe they should investigate themselves while they're at it to determine why they foolishly squandered nearly the same amount of money in a few weeks as Solyndra cost in two years.

"We work hard in Texas"

ROTFLMAO! NO YOU DON'T

What people in Texas do is THINK they work hard. They work NO harder than any other place in the United States, and that's from knowing the state. So STFU BAGGERS, because your 'job' is your 'b!tching and moaning' against the military, against the economy, and against DOING ANYTHING!

Is it really surprising that the Douschebag party loves Cheney, the one distinctly non-conservative from the Bush Administration? Mister invasion of privacy Cheney? Mister non-Christian Cheney (except for the lip servicing he gives the religion as an insult)? Mister Big Governmet Cheney? Mister destroy the values of the military and arm ciminals (otherwise known as XO, the prisoner military organization)? Mister BETRAY American spies who's husbands he doesn't like Cheney?

F Romney for even catering to Cheney on behalf of the Douschebags. Is that how far one of the few conservative Republicans has to go to cater to the Dousche Party of the stupid?

I want my actual conservatives back in the Republican party. Not this group of Dousche crybaby cowards.

The interesting thing is, Carville is smart. That means Obama won't listen to him. Certainly glad about that.

Hey Jolly, thanks for putting up the Carville quote

In what capacity does Carville serve the adminstration again?

I can't take anyone who would crawl into bed with a skunk like Mary Matalin nightly seriously!

WCO: Hey Jolly, thanks for putting up the Carville quote, I hadn't seen that.

John B, Des Moines will soon be whining that it's out of context.

It is the Prez who needs a jobs bill , not the Speaker. And by the way RH, Obama has never had a budget, a HC bill, a deficit plan, a jobs plan, a economic plan, or a clue. HE has had parties, vacations, corruption, incompetence, cronyism for unions, Pelosi, Reid, Holder, Rahm, and that is why your all losing! and there will be NO MO Obama in 2012. ONLY brain-dead half wits in Illinois will vote for him, and I am not sure too many of them will next time.

I might also ask... WHERE IS HARRY REID'S JOBS PLAN?

Why do the dems always point the finger at Boehner and ask where is his fill-in-the-blank plan?

It's the president's job to come up with those plans and lead us out of this mess. Yet there they (dems) are pointing at Boehner. I say we point at Reid and ask the same questions!

They will do anything to deflect criticism from their chosen one. What losers!

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Would those be the same wealthy job creators who are currently hoarding 3 TRILLION dollars in assets?

I guess Uncle Scrooge can't spend those trillions on job creation because needs that money to cushion his landing when he dives into his money bin. You wouldn't want him to fracture his beak, would you?

Much to my chagrin they chose to take the high road!

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Nasty, do you think maybe Barry and Holder were setting the stage for their successors??

Would those be the same wealthy job creators who are currently hoarding 3 TRILLION dollars in assets?

THAT is the real point, isn't it Feisty? The Republican plan would only redistribute more income upward while doing nothing to deal with a continuing lack of demand.

Retardation doesn't mean mental handicap, it means republican. Republicans are retards!

James Carville has lost his fastball. It happens when you sleep with a retard that long

Hi, Bev-

The Forbes link you posted is to an article highly critical of the Obama Administration's conduct in the Solyndra matter.

Essentially, the author argues that the Administration shouldn't be picking individual winners and losers among private companies in the "green" energy technology arena.

It's actually a good piece.

You should read it, Bev.

Wonder if I will have a job next winter, better take a poll. I am so glad my decisions are not based on popularity with the masses.

I love it as always Fiesty cant stay on topic. Its more of the same, the chicago democratic machine isnt really a good proxy for national politics. Hey Fiesty, how is your home state doing? You cant blame Illinois on the GOP can you? How does high taxes, pro union, big government, big corruption work for the economy? Which state has the worst balance sheet in the nation? Which state are jobs fleeing like crazy? What democratic governor gave $200 million in tax breaks to keep Caterpillar and Sears in the state (dont hear her complaining about that like Walker)? Oh yeah what state did Obama come from and where did he learn his politics? Who were his mentors here? Besides Wright and Ayers you had Tony "the Fixer" Rezco a really close friend now in jail. You have the Pritzker family right? Come on Fiesty tell how well Obama's policies have worked here in Illinois as a guinea pig for the nation? Lets discuss how Rahm Emmanual made his money after one year in the private sector with Goldman Sachs. $7 million in salary for one years worth of work is pretty good if you can get it dont you think. I am sure he delivered every penny of value. Bill Daly just is part of that long line of Illinois politics.

WHERE IS HARRY REID'S JOBS PLAN?

It's called the American Jobs Act. Congress should pass it now. http://www.americanjobsact.com/

JS1

Much as you would apparently like it to happen, this economy is NOT, as of today, in a double-dip recession.

A major factor in the recovery is consumer confidence - look in the mirror.

So much political hate on this board...it's no wonder DC is so dysfunctional...

When's Harry bringing it to the floor of the Senate, John B?

Joe in Albany

Backhouse
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If you want to bankrupt the country and screw your children and grandchildren, vote Democrat.

If you want

Low tax

crumbling roads

poor public schools

not enough cops, firemen, teachers,

Bread lines

poor health care

no action from congress on jobs

and stay in afganstain longer than Obama wants

VOTE REPUBLICAN

they have your back.

And the band played on..................

JoAnnaSmith1

What about the pot-holes Barry? Those are dangerous too. And with many roads, the lines need to be repainted, that makes them really unsafe, those roads really should be closed. And little Jimmy tripped and skinned his knee on a school playground, that problem needs to be fixed too.

Congratulations, JoAnny. That has got to be one of your dumbest post ever. Maybe you don't care if you drive over a bridge that collapses under you, but most people do.

Will the liberals scream & kick about Solyndra as much as they did with Haliburton?.....didn't think so.

A quote from the Senate Majority leader. Looks like he'll put the highways and bridges on the back burner in favor of "bike paths?" !!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!

"Well, for most Americans, [bike paths] are absolutely important. It's good for purposes of allowing people to travel, um, without burning all the fossil fuel on the highways. I got up this morning really early, and went out and did my exercise. I'm not exaggerating — scores! — at least 30 or 40 bikes — so scores may be a slight exaggeration — of people, not just for exercise, traveling to work. Backpacks on — they are going to work. That's what bike paths are all about!"

@Houston -- apparently Reid doesn't care either.

You ladies ready for that third piece of Hilly PIE?????

You can tell Boehner didn't have anything new to say just the same old deregulation tax cut crap they've been touting for 30 years. You can tell because all the tea people GOP republicans want to post about is anything but Boehners plan. Just their same old made up lies and trying to change the subject. JAS1, no joe, Tony, Mixed Bag, Joe in Albany, Ray, Sickofthebickering, Jollyoldsoul, Bob and all the rest of you tea people GOP republicans posting here, you can relax Karl said your troll check is in the mail for the week.

With headlines like this, is MSNBC trying to become Fox? If the goal is to turn the country into the American Taliban with religion as a requirement, no taxes for the rich, no schools or healthcare for most, the destruction of Social Security and Medicare turned into a coupon for 20% off a hip replacement, the media helped make it happen. Apparently this country has a short memory.

I feel like I'm seeing the beginning of A Handmaid's Tale.

If you would like to know what the Republicans offer in terms of job generation, you should demand that Reid pass the three bills that are related to jobs that he's sitting on. Once they are passed then you will find out what's in them. Since its the democrat way to do things, it's only fair, right Liberals?

The righties certainly are jubilant today over a perceived scandal. It would be so much better if they would stop with the high expectations. The Tea Potty operatives in DC hasn't delivered a thing for them yet. No jobs, education, freedom from the death panel, a woman's right to control her body, environmental protection, voter rights, safety regulations or tax cuts for the 98% of them.

Tea Potty operatives just can't get it right.

Methinks there will lots of denial, more lies, and righties still living in another world

Houston: Congratulations, JoAnny. That has got to be one of your dumbest post ever. Maybe you don't care if you drive over a bridge that collapses under you, but most people do.

Really? Got some data to back that claim up Housty? Maybe MSNBC can conduct a poll and ask people if they think the bridges they are driving over are going to collapse. Maybe a follow up question could be "Then why did you go over it?"

The only thing crumbling and collapsing is Obama's chances for re-election next year.

senior strategist David Axelrod listing what’s going right for them as we head into 2012. “Public polling released this week makes clear that Americans strongly agree with the President’s plan to create jobs and provide economic security for the middle class,” Axelrod says.

Keep up the denial David. Most Americans would imply over 50% unless of course your using Obamath.

Obama: "If you love me, pass this bill!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJK7PymvtA

"You keep playing the same hand over and over again and it's not working," James Carville says about Obama's solution to fixing the economy.

On Thursday, Carville advised President Obama to fire some of his staff and bring new people in.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/15/carville_its_time_to_panic.html

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In their own words...

John B wrote:

Is it Daley's fault Republicans put party and service to the wealthy elites above country?

Today's First Read was about a whole lot of nothin', in my opinion. I've seen Daley on TV, he looks powerful and sharp to me, Republicans, on the other hand look crazy and corrupt.

The timing of the Obama Jobs Bill speech turned out perfectly - more people tuned in because it was just before Football. And what a powerful speech it was. I think FR is just looking for critical things to say about the White House...cause that's their world. TO the rest of America: our world is focused on jobs creation.

Beverly in Chicago
The righties are jubliant today over a perceived scandal.

Oh Bev Babe,

There aint nothing "perceived" about Solyndra. This is Obama's Watergte.

When's Harry bringing it to the floor of the Senate, John B?

After it passes out of committee and assuming Republicans don't filibuster it as they did 400 times in the last Congress. As a regular here I'd think you'd know that. Since your remarks imply the bill doesn't have Senator Reid's approval, however, it's worthy of correction;

The uncertainty of this summer – a fight over whether to default on our financial obligations and a shocking credit downgrade – has rocked an economy that was already shaking. But this fall – and this legislation – offers us an opportunity to set the American economy back on the right track.

I look forward to studying the President’s bill. The Senate will begin debate on this proposal as soon as possible.

I know not every part of the President’s legislation will be supported by every member of my caucus. Nor will every Republican love every idea the President described last night.

But I look forward to an open, honest and respectful debate.

I hope my Republican colleagues will contribute constructively to this process in the coming weeks, rather than resorting to the obstructionist tactics that have caused gridlock for the last eight months.

http://democrats.senate.gov/2011/09/09/reid-challenges-we-face-as-a-nation-%E2%80%93-whether-threats-to-our-national-security-or-economic-security-%E2%80%93-must-be-faced-together/

When will Speaker Boehner bring the bill to the House floor for debate?

df: In their own words...

Poor John B, Des Moines. Fingers in his ears, eyes all squinted shut, shouting "I can't hear you!" over and over again.

Quite a sight.

Obama: "If you love me, pass this bill!"

Q for ya: If Reid in the Senate DOES NOT "Pass the Bill" does that mean there's no LOVE for Obama?.......and does that make Reid a racist?

Which bills would those be, TJM? We need specifics if you're to be believed that the Republicans have actually done anything to improve the economy.

...and still after all the haters spew their hate rhetoric of this Potus, call his supporters blind slaves, misquote him, take words out of context, lie and make mountains of molehills, blame him for the past, present, future, Acts of God and tank the country to "deny' him another term, run from 'owning' any recovery plan to help the American people, and continue to behave in ways that defy their Christian family values front...after all the bull clears....they STILL have no one that can beat him.

Mormon Romney's not so conservative past will haunt and not to mention Perry's book loaded with ammunition and the gun ready for use....wow! Can't wait for either one of them to be slaughtered nominated.

Obama 2012!

JoAnnaSmith1

Obama carnival barking in North Carolina:

You got it all wrong the Tea baggers are the carnival barkers and snake oil salespeople. See that's the problem with you righties; you just don't get it.

You do know the President has created more jobs in 2 years than your little chipmunk Georgie boy did in 8?

What has John Bone-Aire, Cantor, or Mitch the turtle done for you?

Harry and his Democratic majority don't care about the filibuster anymore, John B.

Their hypocrisy on the subject was exposed when they declined to make any serious changes to the Senate's cloture and filibuster rules at the inception of the 112th Congress last January.

It's almost as though the Senate Majority Leader (his majority, too) suspects he'll soon become the Senate Minority Leader, and is suddenly concerned with the rights of the Senate minority.

Stunning hypocrisy, John B. Breathtaking, really.

And...it's the President's bill. Let the leader of his own party in the Senate bring the bill forward.

One more thing.

I have no idea about the Majority Leader's depth of conviction with regard to support for the President's latest jobs proposal.

Until he acts...no one does.

Beverly, LOL, do you listen to Obama's lectures....ops speeches? Obama barks with the best of em! Talk about denial.

By the way, check the unemployment data and the recent unemployment filing data.

mmnord1969

Oh Bev Babe,

There aint nothing "perceived" about Solyndra. This is Obama's Watergte.

No Sweetie it is a big stall tacit of the Right wing conspiracy.

You righties are stirring the pot. Tell me how you feel after you take off you witch hat and put down your broom.

Jeff-1541632
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Are you and Bev related??

Perhaps twins separated at birth??

A $38.6 billion loan guarantee program that the Obama administration promised would create or save 65,000 jobs has created just a few thousand jobs two years after it began, government records show.

The program — designed to jump-start the nation's clean technology industry by giving energy companies access to low-cost, government-backed loans — has directly created 3,545 new, permanent jobs after giving out almost half the allocated amount, according to Energy Department tallies.

President Obama has made "green jobs" a showcase of his recovery plan, vowing to foster new jobs, new technologies and more competitive American industries. But the loan guarantee program came under scrutiny Wednesday from Republicans and Democrats at a House oversight committee hearing about the collapse of Solyndra, a solar-panel maker whose closure could leave taxpayers on the hook for as much as $527 million.

The GOP lawmakers accused the administration of rushing approval of a guarantee of the firm's project and failing to adequately vet it. "My goodness. We should be reviewing every one of these loan guarantee" projects, said Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.).

Obama's efforts to create green jobs are lagging behind expectations at a time of persistently high unemployment. Many economists say that because alternative- energy projects are so expensive and slow to ramp up, they are not the most efficient way to stimulate the economy.

"There are good reasons to create green jobs, but they have more to do with green than with jobs," Princeton University economics professor and former Federal Reserve vice chairman Alan Blinder has said.

The Obama Administration spent nearly half of the $38.6 billion ($17.2 billion) set aside for his green energy programs and was only able to create 3,545 permanent green jobs.
This comes out to a staggering $4,853,000 per job !!

And you really wonder why the US economy was downgraded?

With leadership like this.

Obama should be in jail for wasting tax payer money like this.

Anyone but Obama 2012

Yeah Beverly, unemployment during the Bush years averaged around 5%, and about 10% during the Obama years, so Obama has obviously created a whole bunch of jobs.

By the way, what the hell is a "stall tacit"?

No Sweetie it a big stall tacit of the Right wing conspiracy.
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Bev: whats a "tacit"??

Is it a $535 million taxpayer funded solar panel that will shine its light on Barry's dimming re-election prospects?

@Beverly -- Uhhhh Hilly. I'm sorry but you mean the Right Wing has control of this administration's FBI and Treasury Department???? How's that PIE taste????? ROFLMAO.

Also, the bottom line is NET jobs. You can create all you want, but if you are losing way many more than are being created well it is a LOSS.

MB: Harry and his Democratic majority don't care about the filibuster anymore, John B

Obama's "Jobs" bill won't be filibustered. It won't even get 40 Senators to vote for it.

And it won't be going to any committee John B. There is no time for that because Obama is out their shouting "Pass the bill!!", so the plan of Obama's would seem to be non-negotiable. So astraight up/down vote will quickly dispose of Obama's feeble attempt at legislating.

No Sweetie it is a big stall tacit of the Right wing conspiracy.

LOL Bev...it feels like Hillary 1994 all over again!!

A stall tatic?!?! You better let EVERY news organization in the country know that this is just a "big stall tacit of the Right wing conspiracy" because they're treating it like its a criminal probe.

Matter of fact, now that I think of it, the FBI IS investigating this matter (raiding exec homes, reading WH emails, standing guard outside Solyndra HQ, etc). Hmmm. Interesting. Very interesting.

I had NOOO idea that the FBI was in on the "right wing conspiracy" too!!

Our President is toast.

P.S. - Sometimes I cannot even believe that girly_bits, I mean Fiesty, lets you come out and play with us. Stall Tactic??? Right Wing Conspiracy??????....LMAO

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

What exactly IS Boehner's JOBS plan??

Anyone care to answer?

After 10 months of political posturing & teasing what we got yesterday was a 15 minute rerun of the same failed policies that got us into this mess in the first place!

If the tax cuts worked why is unemployment at 9.2%?

Otis is hell bent on protecting his rich cronies while 98% of Americans SUFFER!

This feisty redhead says... ENOUGH!

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The republicans have sent numerous jobs bills to the Senate....

Jobs Bills Waiting for Senate Action--ASK HARRY REID....WHY HE CAN'T DO HIS JOB..

Empower Small Business Owners and Reduce Regulatory Burdens:

H.R. 872, the Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act

•Passed the House by a vote of 292-130 on March 31, 2011
•Senate has taken no action to date
H.R. 910, the Energy Tax Prevention Act

•Passed the House by a vote of 255-172 on April 7, 2011
•Senate has taken no action to date
H.J.Res. 37, a Resolution of disapproval regarding the FCC’s regulation of the Internet and broadband industry practices

•Passed the House by a vote of 240 to 179 on April 8, 2011
•Senate has taken no action to date
Maximize Domestic Energy Production To Ensure An Energy Policy For The Twenty-First Century:

H.R. 1230, Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act

•Passed the House by a vote of 266-149 on May 5, 2011
•Senate has taken no action to date
H.R. 1229, Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act

•Passed the House by a vote of 263-163 on May 11, 2011
•Senate has taken no action to date

No Sweetie it is a big stall tacit of the Right wing conspiracy.

So you're admitting that there's reason to worry Bev.

Because that's what a stall tactic is, "to postpone worry".

So the right wing is trying to distract people from worrying about Obama and his failures?

I don't think so, but there is still reason to worry about the disaster named Obama.

Tony C-2383666

Beverly, LOL, do you listen to Obama's lectures....ops speeches? Obama barks with the best of em! Talk about denial.

By the way, check the unemployment data and the recent unemployment filing data.

I have. If you get the stats you too will see providing you understand what a zero is and know your colors, the President created more jobs than in 2 years that Georgie boy.

Never mind, I'll do it for you.

In this chart, the REDDISH BROWN keep doing DOWN - under the policies of Bush and the Republicans. We were losing lots and lots of jobs every month, and it was getting worse and worse. The BLUE lines -- the ones that just go UP --are President Obama'

Conclusion: if the Republicans had not been so stingy with the STIMULUS and apt to destroy the economy, it would have had the blue line going higher,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davecjohnson/6088811219/

Joe in Albany

Jeff-1541632
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Are you and Bev related??

Perhaps twins separated at birth??

WHATS EVER!!!!!!!!

How about Jay Carney when asked if President Obama knew about Solyndra, he said the President had no knowledge of Solyndra's. And of course he and Holder had no knowledge of fast and furious. For a president this guy doesn't know much about what is going unless it has to do with reelection. Touts the company as the future and the white House tries to tell the american people that the president knew nothing.

Feisty you want an investigation into Bush/Cheney for war crimes. Will not happen because it leaves a very large door for an investigation into Obama/Biden for their acts of violence with innocent people getting killed by drone attacks and other activities that generally come to light after the next administration leaves.

If you are talking enhanced interrogation, Pelosi and others will also be indicted. Intelligence committees knew of the enhanced interrogation despite her sloppy attempt to say that the CIA was lying, even Leon Panetta said she knew. You know Leon right Director CIA, Secretary of Defense and President Clinton's Chief of Staff, Director of the OMB and a member of the House of Representatives. Who would you believe is telling the truth Panetta or Pelosi?

President Obama's jobs act will not even pass because Democrats are against it as evidenced by the article on first read yesterday. If democrats don't like it who will the American people blame. My guess the President.

SOTB: I might also ask... WHERE IS HARRY REID'S JOBS PLAN?

Why do the dems always point the finger at Boehner and ask where is his fill-in-the-blank plan?

It's the president's job to come up with those plans and lead us out of this mess. Yet there they (dems) are pointing at Boehner. I say we point at Reid and ask the same questions!

I would have thought all of you constitutional experts on the right would know the answer to this.

The Presiedent proposes legislation, which he has done. The House, that would be Boehner, who is in charge, drafts legislation and votes on it. Boehner has not done this. Then and only then does the Senate get to vote on it. Following that, the House and Senate resolve their differences. And final approval is by the Presidents signature.

It's called checks and balances. And basic civics.

You would think that those on the right, who claim to be such strict constitutionalists, would be better informed. Not knowing these basic precepts says a lot about the right's capacity to understand government.

when is Hillary going to get in the race for President?

fielden-

Reported Wednesday, Sept. 14, 2011 by Karoun Demirjian in the Las Vegas Sun:

"In his first-ever Twitter town hall, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid charged Republicans are holding up progress on President Barack Obama's jobs bill. But he still plans to push the Senate to vote on the $450 billion measure."

I guess Harry doesn't know any more about basic civics than the rest of us.

You should e-mail his office and straighten him out.

when is Hillary going to get in the race for President?

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Once it's clear to everyone other than Barry that he's one and done. My guess is January 2012.

Fiesty..."If the tax cuts worked why is unemployment at 9.2%?"

Yep, those tax cuts were a bad idea. You need to explain that to this idiot:

“First of all, he’s right. Normally, you don’t raise taxes in a recession, which is why we haven’t and why we’ve instead cut taxes. So I guess what I’d say to Scott is – his economics are right. You don’t raise taxes in a recession. We haven’t raised taxes in a recession.” – President Obama, 2009

(Emphasis mine.)

Why don't boehner do what Bachmann Said..!

I have no iDEA if it is True.....?

It is True ..He Know's the National Debt will rise with Wealthy tax cuts or No new Taxes for Wealthy Only.!

We Watched it since tax Cut's Tacked Straight to The DEBT from the Fake Fiscal 2000-2006 GOP........!

Let's have another Failed redo....Now That's NUTTTTTS...............................

fielden - I'm sorry but you're an idiot.

ABSOLUTELY clueless about how our government works. Nice try though with the liberal spin.

Post #1.99 is HILARIOUS and spot-on......Trust me, she's laughing on the inside.

fielden

I would have thought all of you constitutional experts on the right would know the answer to this.

The Presiedent proposes legislation, which he has done. The House, that would be Boehner, who is in charge, drafts legislation and votes on it. Boehner has not done this. Then and only then does the Senate get to vote on it.

REALLY fielden? REALLY? are you telling me that the Senate NEVER drafts bills? NEVER?

Maybe you should check this out...

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/b_three_sections_with_teasers/active_leg_page.htm

Then explain to me what all those 'S.' entries mean? IDIOT!

I'll make it even SIMPLER for the hippies.

Here's Ben Franklin's Guide to the United Government For Kids:

JoAnnaSmith1

Houston:

Congratulations, JoAnny. That has got to be one of your dumbest post ever. Maybe you don't care if you drive over a bridge that collapses under you, but most people do

Really? Got some data to back that claim up Housty? Maybe MSNBC can conduct a poll and ask people if they think the bridges they are driving over are going to collapse.

Looks like your brain deterioration caused by your chronic Obama Derangement Syndrome is starting to affect you're reading comprehension, JoAnny. I said most people do not WANT to drive over collapsing bridges. While the odds of that the decaying bridge between Jonh Boehner's Ohio and Mitch McConnell's Kentucky is likely to collapse while either of those two gentlemen are driving over it, I would assume that even they would not like to take the chance. I don't think a poll would be necessary.

The Washington Post just awarded John Boehner three Pinocchios for his speech that allegedly had something to do with jobs. If he works just a little harder, he can be up to four in no time.

df, I EXPECT lies from smiffy; but you really disappoint with your EAGERNESS to pile on. Half truths are certainly half lies and you seem all to willing to lie with dogs, eh? Just be careful about the fleas. From the looks of the infestation,...it may take some serious treatments to rid yourself:

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/wake-county/2011/sep/14/complete-text-president-obamas-speech-raleigh-ar-1391299/

AUDIENCE MEMBER: I love you, Barack!

THE PRESIDENT: I love you back. But first -- but if you love me -- if you love me, you got to help me pass this bill. If you love me, you got to help me pass this bill. It starts with your help. Democrats and Republicans have supported every kind of proposal that’s in the American Jobs Act in the past. Well, we got to tell them, support it now. That’s where you come in.

Already, you’ve got some Republicans in Washington who have said that some of this stuff may have to wait until the next election.

AUDIENCE: Booo!

THE PRESIDENT: And said maybe we can just kick our problems down the road and stretch this thing out rather than work together right now. Some of them were even quoted as saying even if they agreed with some of the things in this bill, that they don’t want to pass it because it would give me a win.

AUDIENCE: Booo!

THE PRESIDENT: Give me a win? Give me a break! (Laughter.) That’s exactly why folks are fed up with Washington. This isn’t about me. This isn’t about giving me a win. This isn’t about giving Democrats or Republicans a win. It’s not about positioning for the election. It’s about giving the American people a win.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Damn, those nasty, unparsed – undigested FACTS!

Housty: I said most people do not WANT to drive over collapsing bridges.

My. Just most? Who would want to drive over a collapsing bridge Housty? Maybe an Evel Kenevil type. It seems you know what bridges are collapsing ("collapsing" is an active word), so they must be at least swaying in the breeze. Care to tell us which bridges are imminent in their demise Housty?

Now go back to hiding in your basement Housty. It's still not safe.

Feisty: I can't take anything someone who crawls into bed with a skunk with Mary Matalin nightly seriously.

Not a good reflection on your husband/wife Red.

They show the Texas unemployment rate increased to 8.5% in August -- the highest level in more than 24 years and more than twice the rate when Perry took office in December 2000

OH NO - Say it ain't SO!

24 YEARS? Seriously?

This isn't going to sit well with the stuck on stupid crowd!

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8.5% in Texas vs. 9.9% in Illinois?

And you are laughing ...... talk about being stuck on stupid

BTW - How many Americans moving to IL?

"Sure is a lot of yammering from the RWNJ's about a special prosecutor on the Solyndra *gasp* scandal..." - Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

You're right Fiesty, that's SOOOOOOO yesterday. Today it's about the Obama administration, LightSquared and it's primary funder and huge Democratic and Obama donor Philip Falcone, and Air Force General William Shelton.

You see the Obama administration pressured Gen. Shelton to alter his testimony regarding a permit that Mr. Falcone's company, LightSquared, had applied for. The reason the General was asked to testify at the permit hearing is because the broadband frequency that Pres. Obama's large donor was applying for would interfere with the US military's GPS capabilities, likely rendering those capabilities useless. In spite of the national security issue, the Obama administration pushed General Shelton -- who was set to testify against granting the permit -- into changing that testimony to the benefit of his political crony.

So Feisty, I'll try to make sure the other conservatives keep more up to date on the latest Obama cronyism.

The republicans have sent numerous jobs bills to the Senate....

You listed 2 rounds of deregulation and a "resolution of disapproval." Wow, I'm underwhelmed.

There you go again, the same old failed policies. Deregulation GOT US INTO THIS MESS with the banking system implosion.

None of our FR Conservatives have yet managed to explain how companies are making RECORD PROFITS in spite of supposedly being crushed under an unmanageable burden of regulation.

No Conservative ANYWHERE has yet managed to explain how they intend to tackle the real issue in the economy...lack of demand. Supply Side economics is a dismal failure which produced this economic collapse and has no answer for how to get us back out of it.

REALLY fielden? REALLY? are you telling me that the Senate NEVER drafts bills? NEVER?

No, he's telling you all TAXING AND SPENDING AUTHORITY starts in the House. We settled that issue when Republicans passed their Ayn Rand budget...try to keep up.

Correction, the Medal of Honor's last name is spelled Meyer.

Way to put the facts out there. Thanks

Jody, yet another fantastic wrap-up for the week.!

Bill Clinton would make a Great Chief Of Staff.

Jody--thanks again for a great wrap up of the wacky week in politics. Once again I am forced to apologize for stupid contributions from Pennsylvanians. Sadly-this week it is bi-partisan--Bob Casey's idiotic statement and the Republicans not being willing to end our being the only state not to tax oil & gas revenue but being more than willing to tamper with the Electoral College system.

Joe in Albany

“Bill Daley Leaves Some Democrats Longing For Rahm Emanuel.” (Who would have ever thought you’d see that headline in HuffPo, of all places?)

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You're very gullible do still miss Bush?

Joey would you believe the Daleys ran the state of Illinois for many, many, years?

Ra-a-Ta-Ta

Wow Jody, there was a lot happening this week! When you start to look at the big picture there can be no question...the Conservative Movement KNOWS they're spinning lies, KNOWS they're deceiving the American pubic. We have no choice but to cal them by their rightful name...liars, cheats, and criminals.

Here's the OTHER way it was this week-

BLS showed that competence in basic arithmetic is lacking throughout this administration. Last week's initial claims for unemployment were adjusted-UP- by 3000; new initial claims numbers were reported at 428,000. Take a wild guess where those numbers will go next week.

The Census Bureau reported the highest level of poverty in the 52 years it's been tracking that level.

The White House dispatched minions to the House to testify that NO ONE knows who okayed the Solyndra loans. Not one person. Nobody has any idea who could have possibly given the go ahead to shell out more than half a billion dollars down a rat hole- but, maybe, it could have been the Bush administration? No? They got turned down? Oh, well, it sure wasn't any of them.

Air Force General Shelton, on the other hand, testified that several particular people in the White House had pressured him to change his testimony regarded Light Squared. Seems the company has a wireless network that works off satellites- that interfere with GPS used by the military and the airlines. This would hit a company owned by a big Obama donor- so Obama's lifelong buddy, (who also, incidentally, is a big donor) who got the job as head of the FCC, okayed the project, over the objections of the Pentagon.

I wonder if the Obama worshippers would like to volunteer to be on flights the day Light Squared goes live. You know, to prove your loyalty. Just let the rest of us know the date, so we can stay home.

In keeping with the love of liberty and free expression, the White House launched ATTACK WATCH- a website and Twitter account that invites people to tattle on anyone who ever says anything mean or nasty about the president. I'm pretty sure JoannaSmith 1, bob, Bob, Mixed Bag, dangerfield, myself, and a few others have been reported by loyal cult members on this site. Some of the tweets have been highly entertaining, I must admit-

One reported having seen six ATMs in an alley- the tweeter thought they were killing a job.

One admitted taking the dear leader's name in vain six times that very day.

One reported himself for having eaten a bean burrito for breakfast- thereby increasing his carbon emissions.

You get the idea.

This level of desperation should tell you all you need to know about Obama's level of paranoia.

On another front, seems Obama is having trouble selling his spending bill. He can only attract crowds at less than half the capacity of the chosen venue. Moreover, he "took it to the American people", first in Virginia. He was going to really hit hard at Eric Cantor.

His approval ratings in Virginia promptly tanked. I can't wait to see how it plays in Ohio, let alone North Carolina.

In two special elections, democrats lost, badly. In NY9, held by the democrat by 20 points last November despite the republican tsunami that swept the nation, a republican political neophyte won by eight points- he campaigned against Obama's spending, healthcare takeover, economic policies, - heck, he might even have thrown in "what kind of moron names a dog after himself?"- but the White House, having lost a district that is 3 to 1 democratic registration, proclaimed it "not a referendum on Obama".

In Nevada, a district with 4 to 1 republican registration, went to the republican by 22 points. The White House blamed low voter turn out.

Axelrod blames Daley. Jarrett blames Summers. Obama blames Bush. None of that matters, because. . .

The electorate blames Obama.

Obama shelved in 2012.

Great Post Jody, and so true.

Sorry Jody!

I didn't get the NJ nut job repellent down quick enough and now she's dumped another one of her famous steaming piles on your porch!

Remember imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery no matter how pitiful the attempt! ;o)

The electorate blames Conservative Republicans. Over 70% of them blame Conservative Republicans, in fact. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20107148-503544.html?tag=stack

Nope what they know is.....they kicked your asses in a vote that should have been democratic if they ran a kosher hotdog with lox on it! Pay no attention to the voter behind the curtain. Go away people nothing happened here......no body no murder.....nope Just go away! NJNBNJ I cant bear to give you the gimme gimme gang type of response. So I will just nod my head in respect. And I wanted to add that here in Detroit we still have 330k registered Democratic voters and only 315k people of voting age, which according to the registrar of voters cant be changed until after the next election. Ooooo boy!

And NJNBNJ dont forget that you can also donate $5 to Mr Obama and win a dinner with the President. I would love to get that ......all you would hear is the slurping of beer and crickets! Chirp Chirp Chirp!

Does the line form early for all the "pats" on the back for the "cut and paste" crowd? Just wondering.

It is going to be a fun 14 months watching the rhetoric and the "spin" from the liberals as the economic numbers and the poll numbers come in.

Jody as always fine like frog hair split. Don't worry that Backhoe from the DDI will be over directly to clean the Piles of Poop off your Front Porch

Jody a very good wrap up. I think we all appreciate it and strikes a chord with us, even No Jo.

Again you bring up a lot of topics. The thing I would like to discuss are your thoughts on the merits of revamping or changing the electoral college. Don't want to scrap it which would probably need a constitutional amendment but, I believe it should be a conversation that we as a nation should have. Note althugh some might suggest, I'm not looking at it from a partisan nature. In fact I'm not sure which party who would gain from revising it away from a winner take all format.

It is already in place in some states, delegates are awarded by the districts where the contender wins the popular vote. For example this is how Nebraska and Maine are set up and a vote is counted for the presidential contender that wins that district. Obama actually won one district in "Go Big Red" country of Nebrasksa. Thanks Omaha!

If a shared system was put in place it could have prevented the uncertainty in Florida 2000 and Bush's questionable win. Might have even played a part in Kerry's 2004 race. Perhaps adjusting for a weighted share of delegates is a way to provide a greater voice for us all. Whatever the case it is more democratic and while still not one person one vote at least gives more power to those trapped in Texas or New York. Cycle after cycle states like these will probably never go against the already entrenched partisan surpluses.

I hate how politics only have to campaign/care about swing states. At the expense of the rest of us, it could lead to special deals, promises to the all important swing voters. Also wonder why your state and New Hampshire have such special importance.

All of this "poop" BS reminds me of the old saying that some feel theirs doesn't stink...

Dirty Harry in "the Dead Pool" "Opinions are like A$$holes, everybody has one and everybody thinks everyone else's stinks..."

"In keeping with the love of liberty and free expression, the White House launched ATTACK WATCH- a website and Twitter account that invites people to tattle on anyone who ever says anything mean or nasty about the president."

I heard about this this morning on an AM radio station but cannot verify. Anybody got a link or a credible source?

John B,

"When you start to look at the big picture there can be no question".

I think one of the key things being exploited here is that we're slow to see what is coming 'down the pipe', over the long term ~ the fallout from actions and directions taken now. Some things are heavily veiled, sugar-coated or denied, but some things are actually right under our noses.

Think it's called 'maladaptive' cultural adaptation....not sure.

Course, if we're not curious or didn't get a good chance at education, it gets easier for us to be controlled and fall prey to crazy ideas and agendas.

Yellowdog. Thank you. My view on the electoral college is simple. It has outlived its purpose and needs to go for general elections. Elections should be determined by the total popular vote. I've held that opinion for decades. From what I have read, it was established because our Founding Fathers did not trust that the population was educated enough so they put in a backup system which allowed the educated to intervene; the same held true for senators who were originally appointed by the elite. It was also supposed to give a bigger voice to states with small populations which, today, makes no sense because the smaller the population, the fewer electoral votes so the influence remains unchanged. I think having electoral votes for primaries is reasonable and makes sense.

I realize that other states have done something similar as PA is contemplating. It just seemed the republicans in PA's actions are purely for political purposes right now. Most of the time, the electoral college is consistent with the popular vote--except most recently in 2000.

I agree, it is a conversation the country needs to have.

Thanks Jody! Yes imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! You are Authentic, the "knock offs" are just that and should be treated as such...judged as fake, devalued and dismissed.

Yellowdog and Jody,

Those of us that are Republicans in California would love to see a change to the electoral college process. While voting for a Republican candidate isn't a guaranteed loss, given the very deep blue state that California is, we might as well throw our ballots in the trash. There was a proposal not so long ago that worked somewhat like this:

Each district total represents one vote in the electoral college (House) and each of the Senate members represent one vote. Summarize the voting by district, and assign the electoral votes on the basis of who won the district. Senate goes essentially the same way, but based upon the statewide tally for each candidate. The Senate screws things up a bit, given that Presidential elections and Senate elections don't always mesh, but the principal could be adapted somewhat to reflect the off year elections.

Yellowdog, don't forget that if you apply this process to Florida, you will equally have to apply it to California, Illinois, New York, etc, and the outcome may have changed, but also may not have changed. If I recall correctly, there were Republican majorities in the House in 2000, and in 2004, so under the proposal I recall, it is likely that GW would still have been President in each of those elections.

I see that the radical righties are rearing their heads today. Can't blame them though - a bit of bad news from their own Rasmussen Poll - so sad for them.

Obama 46%, Perry 39%

Obama is ahead of Michelle Bachmann by double digits.

Congress is again at its lowest approval rating ever.

(Hey folks, I don't collapse you, so here it is again. Have a good weekend!) ...Jody, love your post.

Hallooo Fellow 98%-ers!
If you want the top 2% to pay up the revs and put our country back on track, click your heels together.

If you want to end tax breaks for the wealthy, tax loopholes for Big Oil &+corporate jets, hoot and holler.
If you are against Speaker Boehner's plan of repairing our roads & bridges in exchange for increased oil drilling, stamp your feet.
If you want to extend unemployment benefits, knock your knees together.
If you want schools to be modernized and repaired, flap your arms.
If you want to keep the AJA as one piece so it doesn't get watered down to nothing as per usual, blink your eyes.
If you want to cut taxes for middle class and small businesses, wiggle your nose.
If you want to stop our wealthiest citizens paying lower taxes than their secretaries, puff out your cheeks.
If you want to cut taxes for working families, flex your abs.
If you want to find temp work to build skills, do a push-up.
If you want summer work for disadvantaged youth, hum a tune.
If you want jobs for construction workers, teachers, vets, young people and longterm unemployed, give us a smile.
If you want to put our police, firefighters and first responders back to work, whistle a happy tune.
(feels good, phew)
If you have or will now call/write your reps. and sens. to pass American Jobs Bill, congrats and have a fantastic Friday.
LET'S PUT OUR AMERICAN FAMILY BACK TO WORK!

mmnord1969

Matter of fact, now that I think of it, the FBI IS investigating this matter (raiding exec homes, reading WH emails, standing guard outside Solyndra HQ, etc). Hmmm. Interesting. Very interesting.

I had NOOO idea that the FBI was in on the "right wing conspiracy" too!!

Our President is toast.

Is your vocabulary expansive? What is the difference between tactic and obstruct? Yes it's a conspiracy. Check out a civics book to see how government works.

P.S. - Sometimes I cannot even believe that girly_bits, I mean Fiesty, lets you come out and play with us.

Seems like you are either jealous or obsessed with me and my friend?

While you're at it, Jody...

Let's change the U.S. Senate, as well.

Why should Rhode Island or Delaware have as many U.S. Senators as California and New York?

Just curious...

How many presidential elections in our history have produced a result where the winner in the electoral college wasn't the winner of the popular vote? How large was the gap in each of those instances?

Change it. But, watch out for unintended consequences.

Remember how the left howled because the outcome in Florida in 2000 was decided by some 500 votes...out of more than 5.8 million votes cast?

Toss out the paper punch-card ballots!

Spend millions of taxpayer dollars on expensive computerized voting systems instead.

Remember how that worked out?

Remember Diebold?

Those pesky unintended consequences...simply because the outcome of an election was so close that it would have challenged the margin of error for ANY method of counting the votes.

Unintended consequences.

Go for it, Jody.

Excellent post, as usual Jody.

John B: The electorate blames Conservative Republicans. Over 70% of them blame Conservative Republicans.

It's a real shame NY-9 didn't get that memo.

Congratulations Elizabeth Warren running against Scott Brown. Pretty much a winner for Scott Brown. This excerpt is from Commondreams.org

Big banks are not Warren’s only problem. A poll conducted by a Boston NPR affiliate this month showed Brown leading Warren 44-35 in a potential matchup. Off the record, some Democrats admit that Scott Brown is charismatic, charming and well-liked. He is also well-known for quality constituent work.

One Lindfield resident who has been struggling to get a mortgage modification from Bank of America for years has gotten some helpful assistance from Scott Brown’s office. “I like everything I know about Scott Brown, I may not know the whole story, but I like the progress he has made as a Senator and I like that he just went to Afghanistan,” said George Mahoney.

Even democrats like his work.

Living in La - Perhaps, again not sure if this would benefit D or R. However it would give us "Living in TX" a reason to vote with enthusiam.

Jody and Living - If we get away from the winner take all system, could you imagine the "magic wall" John King CNN showing all the different variations state by state of how a candidate could get to 270.

SOTB: I might also ask... WHERE IS HARRY REID'S JOBS PLAN?

Why do the dems always point the finger at Boehner and ask where is his fill-in-the-blank plan?

It's the president's job to come up with those plans and lead us out of this mess. Yet there they (dems) are pointing at Boehner. I say we point at Reid and ask the same questions!

I would have thought all of you constitutional experts on the right would know the answer to this.

The Presiedent proposes legislation, which he has done. The House, that would be Boehner, who is in charge, drafts legislation and votes on it. Boehner has not done this. Then and only then does the Senate get to vote on it. Following that, the House and Senate resolve their differences. And final approval is by the Presidents signature.

It's called checks and balances. And basic civics.

You would think that those on the right, who claim to be such strict constitutionalists, would be better informed. Not knowing these basic precepts says a lot about the right's capacity to understand government.

Can the moderators PLEASE do something about this collapsing madness?!

If some of you do not like a particular post, complain to the moderators about it. Better still, do not read it, or put that person on ignore. By collapsing one post you take all of the following posts with it. By choosing to deny one person's rights, you also deny the rights of many others.

This type of suppression of freedom of speech is un-American and un-democratic (small d!). It is more commonly seen in totalitarian or authoritarian regimes. And this from people who claim to be open minded and patriotic. This just exposes you as the zealots and hypocrites you are.

Please stop it!

STILL ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no way the white house can be spun out of the mess it has created!!!!!!!!!!! The majority of Americans are sick and tired of obamas blathering and there is nobody in thier right mind out there that would vote him in again!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!! My sides are starting to hurt again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fielden: The Presiedent proposes legislation, which he has done. The House, that would be Boehner, who is in charge, drafts legislation and votes on it. Boehner has not done this. . . . that, the House and Senate resolve their differences. And final approval is by the Presidents signature.

According to Obama's political adviser, David Axelrod, Obama's plan is non-negotiable. So Obama is expecting that the House and Senate will pass the bill as is. No committee work. No amendments. With that, it doesn't matter whether the House votes first, or the Senate.

fielden: You would think that those on the right, who claim to be such strict constitutionalists, would be better informed.

As usual fielden, you have your facts wrong.

Source of Axelrod statement: http://thehill.com/video/administration/181115-axelrod-suggests-obama-unwilling-to-break-up-jobs-bill?page=18

Imagine that. The GOP approval rating is lower than ever. This is great. And they just keep kicking themselves in the @ss over and over.

Feisty == I mean YODA..!

They collapsed you

What an Honor...

Again the GOP ME-ME .. Fear YOU More than FACTS......

If you were a sheep FOX would put a studio in your house.

You Greedy enough and can you LIE and NOT CARE.............................?

I know better and THANK YOU from WE the PEOPLE..!

I am Serious == O'Really would be Nothing Sparring against you.

even on your 1st interview......................................................

JoAnna, whatever.

I stand by my statement. Trying to engage in any kind of civil, or civic, discourse with you is pointless.

They collapsed you

What an Honor...

I'm 5 for 5 this week OLD GOP!

I'm going for a record... lol

PS: Thank you for the kind words! ;o)

Interesting, now collapsed posts mean something? Like, if you don't like a particular party and the numbers agreeing with you outnumber those who don't then post collapsing is seen as partisan accord? Whew, and I thought it meant that there were a lot of small minded and petty people who only wanted their side of the story heard. Now pettiness is a sign of integrity and honor, gotcha.

fielden: I stand by my statement.

You want to stand up for ignorance, I guess that's your problem.

Things aren't going so well for you in the #1 thread either my friend. You know, where you double posted your ignorance.

I wonder if it is the liberals who are doing this. Thet can't handle the responses to the misinformation and exaggerations, setting the record straight so to speak upsets them.

I never seen a GOP say Humility..?

They Stand By thier lies.

That's Worth Billions & Trillions......................................................

Free Speech folks! The only ones that should be collapsed are for selling something OR inflammatory. Most posts that I see that are collapsed do not belong in these categories.

[You want to stand up for ignorance...]

So says the Queen of Ignorance...Smuffy Smiff...

Fiesty has herself collapsed so that she appears to be some kind of martyr. Its the only way that she can convince the narrow minded and the sheep minded that the lies she spreads are the truth. The only truth about fata$$ readhead is that she can double fist McRibbs and Big Macs at the same time. If you put any kind of belief in that blogging pig, then you have only proven that you are as brainwashed as she is.

Obama White House Warned Solyndra Bad For Reelection

"The loan had been shelved by the Bush administration but was fast-tracked just days after President Obama took office, and one of the major investors in the company is an Obama fundraiser who has visited the White House 16 times, including four meetings with such senior aides as Valerie Jarrett, Austan Goolsbee and Pete Rouse in the months prior to the loan's approval.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-white-house-warned-solyndra-bad-reelection/story?id=14534542

Obama using taxpayer money to pay off fundraisers... just like he does with the Unions.

Time to impeach.

Biteme - And you know all of this how? By the way its a political blog, bring your comments not your insults.

Sure seems as if it is time for one of those sanctimonious righties who call out Fiesty's tone to call out this bitter poster. Or maybe not...

I see johnB is holding on to his nearly unblemished attempt at maintaining the top spot of the libs-r-us SIASD hall of fame in his post 2.7. Amazing on how he never quite has been able to prove what he claims. It indeed will be a sad day for America if the majority believes his dribble.

Liars, cheats and criminals indeed! I do wonder why poor johnb has such a negative attitude on the future of America. Perhaps he listened to S&P saying that if the US can't get their fiscal act together, another downgrade is possible..

Standard & Poor's managing director John Chambers said on Sunday there is a one in three chance of a further U.S. credit rating downgrade over the next six months to two years.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44050983/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/sp-exec-another-downgrade-us-possible/

Interesting that we appear to have a three way split on how best to create jobs and fix the economy, perhaps the best resolution would be to vote out obama and all others up for re-election in 2012.

I see that johnb also likes to mislead and misinform along with the best of FR libs. Leaving out the rest of the story (post 2.11)...

Though most Americans disapprove of both parties in Congress, they disapprove of Republicans more. Seventy-two percent of Americans disapprove of the job Republicans in Congress are doing, compared to 63 percent who disapprove of the Democrats in Congress (From his link).

Not exactly a rousing endorsement for the left either.

Regardless, other polls have Americans increasing their percentages in saying that they believe America is heading in the wrong direction. Used to be in the 60% range, now it has moved into the 70% range. Rather telling on how obama just can't quite get the hang of uniting congress or Americans on moving forward. Perhaps that is no longer the main job function of an effective POTUS.

JoAnna: You want to stand up for ignorance, I guess that's your problem.

Who is calling who ignorant?! I have no problem.

Read the Constitution.

Yellowdog: I see that your one of the parrots. First of all, this being a "political blog" is nothing short of laughable. The only thing about politics that anyone out here knows is how to copy and paste the rhetoric from thier party handbooks. My "insults" are my comments as it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that fata$$ redhead uses manipulation to get the weak minded and the sheep minded to believe the garbage that she spews. If you had read up a little farther you would see that there were posts about the "collapsed comments" invading peoples freedom of speech, such as you are trying to do to me. By the way, who appointed you as the vine police? Who are you to tell me how to post in this format? You have proven that your party wants to censor the truth and others opinions so long as they dont match yours. Thats a nazi tactic. I guess when it comes to being sanctimonious, you ARE the expert at it. Grow up, get smarter, and until then read my moniker and act accordingly.

Liars, cheats and criminals indeed! I do wonder why poor johnb has such a negative attitude on the future of America.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? My attitude toward the United States of America is fine. People are connecting the dots and turning against the Grand Old Party because they recognize it's been taken over by radical ideologues from the John Birch Society mold. History will not look well upon this time when the Republican Party mainstreamed crazy. The American people aren't real wild about that agenda in real time, either.

I watched the Medal of Honor ceremony for Dakota Meyer yesterday. What an honor it is to live in this nation protected by these brave men and women. There may not be much the left and right agree on, but the entire country share their gratitude for past and present sacrifices by these serviceman and women. Thank you.

I'm going to agree with "biteme" on this one. Fiesty's comments are fact-less personal attacks, and this is why she is collapsed. I would be interested to see how many times the redhead has made a post without using a derogatory statement... with the exception of her thanks to her minions...my guess is "0".

Biteme - While I probably do agree with some of Feisty's idealogy being a Democrat myself, I don't appreciate her approach and tone or her propensity to name call. In my opinion it gives liberals a bad name. I welcome your voice or opinion when it adds value to the discussion. However, judging from your post I'll probably be waiting a while for some value.

Yes I am an expert at being sanctimonious. Thank you.

However much as you stated that you would continue to bring comments/insults I will keep posting what I want. If you think you can stop me... you are wrong.

Yellowdog:I never said I was trying to stop you nor did I tell you to stop. Post on man. That is your right. I wasnt afforded that in your first post to me. If you want value from ANY posting I wouldnt hold my breath if I were you. If I seek value in comments, I will talk to people directly, face to face, eye to eye. I would be willing to bet the farm and a brand new shiny dime that there isnt one person on ANY of these public forums, myself included, that wouldn't have a different approach to thier beliefs with people if they had to do it in a face to face forum. I come out here to let the bloggers know that people are wise to their tactics, and they are no more credible than the lobbyists that plague Washington. I will keep posting what I want and nobody will stop me. I guess that shows me being sanctimonious also?

Feisty...

Like you brain-dead libbie Obamabots don't collapse...please!

If only you people had something worth reading...

Jody: Thanks for the laugh! Of course, your last paragraph pretty much sums up the way to take the rest of your post. Enjoy the BS.

It's nice to play little diversionary games. But, the simple fact is that there is nothing in Obama's slush fund bill that creates any jobs. Absolutely nothing! If you or any other libs believe there is, then please spell it out. We are anxiously awaiting.

Looking at history, Democrat presidents have always had problems with their own Party in congress. Why? because progressives by nature are not lock-in-step rubber stampers like Republicans, not to mention a few Blue Dogs out there who should change their party affiliation to Republican. But certainly the White House needs to improve relations with congress--and I'm not talking about the uncompromising Teapublican Party of No--but with the Dems, who need to get behind a jobs plan. Make it better if they can, but get behind it.

To Living in LA -- Try being a Democrat who lives somewhere like Utah and tell us if they feel their votes count. The Electoral College is there to protect the nation from ignoramuses, which appear to be increasing thanks to the Tea Party. And the way it is structured in places like Pennsylvania needs to be left alone. As Feisty says, the GOP/TP philosophy is "if you cant beat, cheat em." Enough!

What part of tax breaks for small businesses and individuals, keeping teachers on the job, employing construction workers to build important infrastructure investment for the future, and keeping those still unemployed engaged in the economy is hard to understand? http://www.americanjobsact.com/

It's the Conservative plan to magically create demand by further increasing surplus capacity and capitalization that's beyond understanding.

John B: What part of reduced payroll tax rates for employers and employees will prompt private employers to hire more employees? What part of federal money paying for state and local governmental expenses of local governmental union employees will encourage private employers to hire more employees? What part of the wasted $800 billion for "shovel ready jobs" inspires you to believe that this time, it will be different and the money will actually be used to hire private contractors to improve infrastructure? What part of increasing unemployment benefits from, a traditional 26 weeks (1/2 year) to 3 years will encourage private employers to hire more employees?

One would think that spending "stimulus" money to create more employment would have actually created some jobs. Considering that the "stimulus" set aside more money for the purpose of creating jobs, one would think that some jobs would have been created. After all, it was more money than we spend on the military. At least the military does provide a valuable, Constitutionally permissible function. And, they actually hire people. So far, all Obama has provided is increase debt, no jobs and lower credit rating, which increases the cost of borrowing.

I just explained it, and naturally you came back with a collection of empty Conservative talking points instead of a solution from the Right...because the Right HAS no solution...nothing whatsoever after running an entire campaign based on improving the jobs picture. As such you're probably a lost cause, but just in case you'd like to study what actual economists know to be the case instead of what Glenn Beck claims;

In this paper, we use the Moody’s Analytics model of the U.S. economy—adjusted to accommodate some recent financial-market policies—to simulate the macroeconomic effects of the government’s total policy response. We find that its effects on real GDP, jobs, and inflation are huge, and probably averted what could have been called Great Depression 2.0. For example, we estimate that, without the government’s response, GDP in 2010 would be about 11.5% lower, payroll employment would be less by some 8½ million jobs, and the nation would now be experiencing deflation.

http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/documents/End-of-Great-Recession.pdf

College drop out Sean Hannity may disagree, but actual Nobel Prize winners realize that the only problem with the original stimulus was the insistence of Conservatives that it be smaller than needed;

Those of us who say that the stimulus was too small are often accused of after-the-fact rationalization: you said this would work, but now that it hasn’t, you’re just saying it wasn’t big enough. The quick answer to that accusation is that people like me said that the stimulus was too small in advance. But the longer answer is that it’s all in the math: Keynesian analysis provides numbers as well as qualitative predictions, and given reasonable projections of the economy’s path in January 2009, the proposed stimulus just wasn’t big enough. Let’s go back to the tape, January 9, 2009:

Even the C.B.O. says, however, that “economic output over the next two years will average 6.8 percent below its potential.” This translates into $2.1 trillion of lost production. “Our economy could fall $1 trillion short of its full capacity,” declared Mr. Obama on Thursday. Well, he was actually understating things.

To close a gap of more than $2 trillion — possibly a lot more, if the budget office projections turn out to be too optimistic — Mr. Obama offers a $775 billion plan. And that’s not enough.

Now, fiscal stimulus can sometimes have a “multiplier” effect: In addition to the direct effects of, say, investment in infrastructure on demand, there can be a further indirect effect as higher incomes lead to higher consumer spending. Standard estimates suggest that a dollar of public spending raises G.D.P. by around $1.50.

But only about 60 percent of the Obama plan consists of public spending. The rest consists of tax cuts — and many economists are skeptical about how much these tax cuts, especially the tax breaks for business, will actually do to boost spending. (A number of Senate Democrats apparently share these doubts.) Howard Gleckman of the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center summed it up in the title of a recent blog posting: “lots of buck, not much bang.”

The bottom line is that the Obama plan is unlikely to close more than half of the looming output gap, and could easily end up doing less than a third of the job.

In practice, it was even worse, because one of the key elements of the plan — aid to state and local governments — was cut back sharply in the Senate. We ended up with only about $600 billion of real stimulus over that two-year period.

So this wasn’t a test of fiscal stimulus, even though it has played out that way in the political arena: the whole thing was obviously underpowered from the start.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/how-did-we-know-the-stimulus-was-too-small/

No doubt feisty would get first post or the Bev would defend Chicago slime.

Daley, both generations, are as smooth as a cactus. Of course those plants only exist in Shytown among politicians and the idiots who vote for them. WHo could that possibly be? LOL

Feisty, at least try not to be so obvious. Everyone here knows you are a shill because only a shill gets first post every time. Try to be a little more discrete. I know that is hard for one with a wig and frizzed hair to hold onto it, but do try.

Lots of silliness, little content.

I had to laugh when I read:

Looking at history, Democrat presidents have always had problems with their own Party in congress. Why? because progressives by nature are not lock-in-step rubber stampers like Republicans,

If you look at the last 4 years, seems Harry and Nancy had their comrades in lock-step 24/7. It was only after their plans failed, Nancy lost her leader gig, Obama kept attacking and not solving a darn thing that the dems saw the writing on the wall.

They have no problem throwing each other or Obama under the bus if it means they will get re-elected.

And anyone trying to spin the monstrous Republican Catholic upset of the Democrat Jewish candidate with a 70 year history of voting democrat in NY9, while spending 13x what the Republican spent, well he/she is just dim.

What part of tax breaks for small businesses and individuals, keeping teachers on the job, employing construction workers to build important infrastructure investment for the future, and keeping those still unemployed engaged in the economy is hard to understand? http://www.americanjobsact.com/

"I just explained it..."

And that is your idea of an explanation? No wonder we are in such a mess. Until the libs are out of office, there is no chance of getting things done that will actually improve the economy. Calling them "talking points" does nothing to add to the conversation. The reason that these "talking points" keep coming up is that libs refuse to answer. You are a perfect case in point. Of course, we know why these kinds of questions are never answered. There aren't any true answers that can be given. Even libs realize that there is no incentive to hire employees just because an employee's or employer's SS contribution is reduced from 6.2% down to 4.2%.

As for your articles, they are typical neo-Keynesisan gobble-gook. Keynes just added government spending on top of private sector spending and said "see, everything is much better now!" The problem is that it assumes that there are no consequences for the economy from just printing more money. And, everyone knows that's not the case. Just shifting money around does nothing to grow the economy either. You must have missed your lessons on the Great Depression. The government threw money after money and, as a result, the depression just kept going on and on. Even the liberal CBO recognized this. They, surprisingly were honest in their assessment about the stimulus bill. They said that it may give an initial boost, but that the long term effect would mean that it would take longer to recover. Bingo! That's why we are still in a recession.

Part of the American Jobs Act would give employers thousands in cash for hiring military returning from tours of duty, and for hiring "long term unemployed". This is an idea overdue and makes a lot of sense considering you'd otherwise be paying the same money for unemployment checks.

I don't think it is the right time for publicly funded "infrastructure projects", because the proposed funding would be to borrow against the future. I think there has been enough borrowing, we're all borrowed out. The result is always short term and temporary.

During the Great Depression workmen could be loaded into trucks at souplines and delivered to the Hoover Dam site, and would work for a blanket and three square meals. Davis-Bacon guarantees workmen in Obama's Depression 'the prevailing wage rate'. Let's just call it an average of $60/hr including benefits.

I think emphasis right now should be reducing spending, and not adding borrowing or printing money that might help Greece stay afloat another 6 months but cuts the value of the American dollar in half. Every country in the world needs austerity right now. The answer for Greece, and everybody else, is to "buck up" right now, not in 6 more months.

What if every single person and business in the U.S. would write a check for 1% of their adjusted gross income to be applied to first the Deficit, then the Debt? No Cronyism. What if an Amendment be reached prohibiting the Fed, the Treasury, and the President from writing a check to anybody outside of the borders of the United States without prior approval of both House and Senate?

Oh, you've gone FULL John Birch Society, even to the extent of denying that the New Deal ended the Great Depression. The economy was growing rapidly from it's long term, Laissez-Faire collapse until Conservatives convinced Roosevelt to pull the stimulus while the recovery was still weak. The result? The recession of 1937. THAT is why the Depression went on and on. Three years of waiting for the economy to self-correct under Hoover, then aborting things that were working far too soon.

The basic economic facts from the 1930s—according to the Department of Commerce, the Federal Reserve, and other official sources—are fundamentally different from the unsupported claims put forward by Shlaes and prominent in popular myth. The monthly data for industrial production show a near three-year collapse under President Hoover, ending when FDR came to office in March 1933. Production rocketed by 44 percent in the first three months of the New Deal and, by December 1936, had completely recovered to surpass its 1929 peak.

GDP, only available as annual averages, plunged 25.6 percent from 1929-1932, including by 13.0 percent in 1932. It stabilized in 1933, and then soared by 10.8 percent, 8.9 percent and 12.0 percent, respectively, in 1934, 1935 and 1936. Real GDP surpassed its 1929 peak in 1936 and never again fell below it. After-tax personal income, consumer spending, real private investment and jobs all reached or surpassed their 1929 peaks by late 1936.

In fact, like every decade between 1850 and 1990, the 1930s suffered two distinct downturns. The official U.S. Business Cycle Dating Committee established that the downturn that began in August 1929 ended in March 1933 with the remarkable economic expansion that started within days of FDR’s bold—if trial and error—New Deal programs. By any normal definition, the Great Depression had ended by late 1936, with all major indicators surpassing their previous peaks.

A second cyclical downturn officially began in May 1937 when FDR, always a fiscal conservative, mistakenly thought the economy had become self-sustaining and slashed public spending programs to balance the budget. These harsh and premature spending cuts caused another severe recession that ended after 13 months in June 1938.

Even in this severe downturn, annual GDP did not fall back below its 1929 peak. And although many suffered and most economic measures did fall back below their 1929 levels, not one fell anywhere close to its March 1933 low. For example, although industrial production fell sharply in the 1937-38 recession, at its low point, in April 1938, it remained 49 percent above its level of March 1933.

When the economy again contracted sharply in late 1937 and early 1938, FDR quickly reversed course and rapid growth immediately began again. GDP soared by 10.9 percent in 1939 and industrial production soared by 23 percent.

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009020603/fdr-failed-myth

You STILL have NO ANSWER regarding how Supply Side economics will create demand in an economy where there is none. I've chased you down the rabbit hole to reveal that there's nothing there. It's all in your imagination. There's no point in continuing a discussion with someone who has no idea how the economy works and only argues by saying "no it doesn't." Goodbye.

Scott: I think you miss part of the point. If an employer is planning on hiring, they may hire a vet or an unemployed over someone of equal talent. But, they are not going to spend the cost of hiring a full time employee just to get a fraction of that back from the government. As to hiring the long-term unemployed, I doubt that that will be a question that will readily come up in a job interview. If it does, the question is more likely to be "why have you been unemployed for so long, in other words, what is it about you that I should worry about if I hire you?" But, I do agree that cutting federal spending should be the emphasis. When one looks at all the spending that's been going on, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that a heck of a lot of it is wasted pork. Heck, all we have to do is go back 3 years to the programs that existed then and we would cut the budget by 25%. You can't tell me that doing that would work a real hardship on anyone, except those receiving the pork. We got along just fine before then.