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Subscribe to RSSCOLUMBUS, Ohio -- In a speech here in the presidential battleground state of Ohio, President Obama today pressed Congress to pass his American Jobs Act.
Like he did in his address to Congress on Thursday, as well as in his remarks in Virginia a day later, Obama uttered his new catchphrase, "Pass this bill." And this time, the supportive crowd was willing to chant along.
The backdrop here was a school in the home state of House Speaker John Boehner and in the district of a first-term Republican member of Congress who helped the GOP win back control of Congress last year.
The president referenced a report that some Republicans don’t want to work with him on the jobs bill because it would be a “win” for the White House. When the audience jeered this suggestion, Obama said it wouldn’t be a win for Republicans or Democrats. “It’s about giving the American people a win,” he said.
And he said it would be a win for the schools of Columbus, too. According to the White House, the president's plan -- in its submitted-to-Congress form -- could provide the Columbus City School District up to $111.6 million to help "modernize" schools. In total, the White House has proposed to spend $25 billion on improving and updating 35,000 public schools across the country.
What Obama stayed away from in his speech was talk of whether he'd accept Congress passing pieces of his bill -- instead of the whole 155-page package that the White House delivered yesterday. Earlier today, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said, “If Congress were to send a portion of the American Jobs Act, the president would, of course, not veto it. He would sign it and then he would return to press the Congress to get the rest of the job done."
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Cease obstructionism and pass the bill. If it fails, then you have grounds to bash Obama; but if Congress stonewalls, Obams can NOT get the blame. The numerous posts on here claiming that Obama hasn't done anything and is a failure turns out to be a lie, if Congress is the one causing failure. Lets keep it straingt!
Pass it in the Senate first Obama! Lets see all those Democrats up for election next year vote for spending another half a trillion dollars on yet another loony liberal scheme of yours. Think those Senators got your back Barry? Your legislation wouldn't get 40 votes in the Senate Obama.
PASS THIS BILL NOW!
Suffering jobless American's DO NOT have the luxury of waiting months while the tea baggers continue to obstruct!
Even Governor Kasich is for parts of this bill because unemployment in Ohio is rising almost as fast as his poll numbers are falling.
The Liberals fish around here take the bait everytime, hook-line-sinker. Obama tried this stimulus thing back in 2009 Libs, you thought it was a great idea back then, and it was a complete failure. Now Obama runs around talking "Jobs bill" and you Liberal fish grab that bait as fast you can, yet again.
Liberals, little fish with a big hook in their fleshy mouths.
"Liberals, little fish with a big hook in their fleshy mouths."
Neat post, Smiff. Keep 'em coming.
Please.
"Suffering jobless American's DO NOT have the luxury of waiting months while the tea baggers continue to obstruct!"
Reading that, I couldn't help but think of the 58 year old man (and vet) that committed self immolation recently (in protest), because he couldn't continue his child support payments after being out of work for two years, and was facing jail time.
Remember the guy who robbed the bank for one dollar so he could get health care...
I'd take being a little fish rather then a LARGE MOUTH ass like smiffy...
Any day...
Who's going to pay for the half a billion dollar bill Mr. Obama? How can we trust you to spend the money on the infrastructure like you said the last time... shovel ready jobs never happened. You burn the American public and you expect us to trust you this time? I doubt it very much thank you.
The Libbies fishies were told back in 2009 the Obama stimulus wouldn't do a thing to improve the employment situation. Who was right about that Libbies? You're being told again Libs that Obama Stimulus 2.0 won't work either, and you're still too stupid to figure it out.
Hook-line-sinker.
Liberals - No clue.
There is still money from the last stimulus bill that hasn't been spent, mainly because the so called "shovel ready projects" weren't shovel ready. So why would these infrastructure projects be shovel ready now? I think there are a few things in the bill that are worth passing, I like the tax credits for long term unemployed and tax credits for hiring veterans. However, I don't know any business who will hire someone just for a tax credit. If a company really needed people they would hire them without any tax credits.
I have said before, and will say again, it is not the federal governments responsibility to pay for state, city and local governments teachers, firefighters and police. Let the state and local governments to put their own house in order and bring their budgets into compliance. They have the power to raise taxes to pay for their first responders and teachers. Also it is not the federal governments job to rebuild or renovate schools, that is the taxpayers and local governments responsibility.
Obama's faux 'jobs bill' will never pass! It's just another spending bill that will line the pockets of unions without creating any significant jobs in the private sector!
Obama is blowing smoke again, as usual. Even his own advisors disagree with him and he doesn't listen to them. Spend another half trillion on bs is all he's got and his minions, the few that are left, love him for it because they aren't the ones paying the bill because most of them don't pay federal taxes.
I do agree that all tax credits should end for everyone, rich and poor. People whine about subsidies to the oil industry, but over 50% of all energy credits are given to "clean energy" which isn't cost effective, yet they receive 5x the tax breaks of the oil industry which is cost effective.
End them all. None of them are needed. If a business is going to be viable, it will be so without a handout from the government. $107 billion per year saved.
Eliminate welfare for the physically fit. Make them work for it. There is no reason they shouldn't work for it. Savings: another few hundred billion/year.
Reduce the cost of government employees. 500,000 of them make over $100,000/year plus benefits. Why, when they are doing such a lousy job? That is $50 billion being paid to idiots per yer, not including benefits and early retirement that most Americans don't get, if they get a retirement at all.
Corporate jet credits should be gone but at $3 billion it is peanuts.
Investment bankers, most in the dems pockets like Pelosi's husband, tax them like dividends, interest, wages or ordinary income. Pelosi will love that, just ask her. See what Buffet says when he gets the bill.
The list of real reforms that can help are almost endless. It is not the right that is the problem, it is everyone in politics who are the problem.
Feisty is the problem too. "Pass this bill now" and we will see what is in it later. Sounds like an echo of the wrong. I am one of the unemployed and living on savings. I doubt that you are employed or ever will be since you are here 24/7 spouting your tripe.
I don't want any government help in getting a job, even tho I have been unemployed since shortly after your massiah killed the economy. The private sector will fix it when idiots in government get the hell out of the way. In the meantime, enjoy your welfare until the right takes it away because you are too lazy to work.
So pass it to see what's in it? Man, you guys don't give up or learn. Good for you!
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
I'd suggest seeking professional help before its too late...
The Representatives and Senators whose votes count are in Washington, not Ohio. I have no idea why the President did not negotiate a plan rounding up enough House and Senate votes for this 'American Jobs Act' to succeed before printing it, but that is what he has done.
The Ohio trip showcases the President's considerable ability to work up a croud, it's a political stunt.
Suppose this American Jobs Act were to be passed, adding $500 billion to the "Trigger", and paying for it with tax hikes some day in the future. If this idea by the President follows the form of his previous ideas, very few jobs will be gained, maybe ZERO, and executives of major corporations and banks will receive $10 million dollar bonuses.
Scott, obama is a reactionary and flits from issue to issue as each issue becomes hot or a political liability. He spends a lot of time on the campaign trail but very little time in thinking his agenda through. Pass this bill NOW indeed. lmao!
I do wonder why we have not heard anything further on his special business centered commision on what business needs to create jobs.
I do know what dave cote, honeywell CEO and handpicked by obama has to say...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-31/u-s-must-cut-entitlements-to-slash-deficit-honeywell-ceo-says.html
The U.S. economy will continue to improve during at least the next three, four, maybe five, years, Cote said. The best way for government to create jobs is to build an environment amenable to hiring, he said.
He also mentioned that eliminating corporate taxes would also help, but he did say that that was extremely unlikely, imagine that..
Parts of this bill, may have merit so let congress break it down and draw on our discretionary spending to pay for it.
With a 'Super-majority' in Congress 2 years ago, Obama couldn't even get his fellow Democrats to vote for this type of bill, so what makes him think it will pass now?
If 'Stimulus I' didn't work, what makes him think Stimulus II will work?
All this is 'with a joint meeting of Congress' as a backdrop, is Obama's desperate attempt to find a campaign issue, but does it make sense to impose huge new taxes (in a recession) on the very people we need to create more jobs? You'd be hard pressed to find many economists who would agree with that.
President Obama is a brilliant politician trying to work with a recalcitrant House. He'll do whatever he can to improve the economy, but we all know the Republicans are willing him to fail. They don't want to see the economy improve. Not on the Obama watch.
Yes, brilliant. So Amy, here's the scorecard for Obama and his economic prowess:
Record 46.2 million people in the country are poor - http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/13/us-usa-economy-poverty-idUSTRE78C3YV20110913
22% of the nations children live in poverty - http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/22-percent-american-children-lived-poverty-last-142535015.html
People living in poverty has risen from 14.3% to 15.1% while median income has dropped 2.3%, all in the last year - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-13/poverty-in-u-s-climbed-to-17-year-high-in-2010-as-household-income-fell.html
CBO is projecting jobless rate to remain at 9%+: http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/09/13/cbo-lowers-us-economic-outlook/?test=MM
It doesn't look like "brilliant" is the word people think of when they think of Obama.
"President Obama is a brilliant politician"
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...and yet, Smiffy, when the Fortune 500 start reporting their 2011 financials I somehow doubt that anyone's going to be hurting. I predict that we'll hear a lot of talk about record profits and record income and record dividends.
So, all we need to do is wait for the "trickle down", right?
Right?
JAS1 -
"It doesn't look like "brilliant" is the word people think of when they think of Obama."
You sure about that?
Or are you just being lame, boring, ineffectual, and your usual non sequitur self.
Either way, you still get a chuckle now and then.
Actually Richard, this board isn't a true example of what people really think. Since this board is populated with approximately 70% liberals, you all toot your own horns at each other thinking the rest of the country falls lockstep with your opinions.
Obama didn't get a bump in the polls after his speech. People are smarter than to believe the guy who said shovel ready jobs would come from the first stimulus. Now he's trying to lay claim to an additional half billion... for what purpose? Those that believed him the first time won't fall for it twice... well most normal thinking people anyway... liberals... will fall for it everytime because Obama spoke it he must mean it.
Brianb -
"Actually Richard, this board isn't a true example of what people really think."
That's just the scary part.
Stimulus 1 was under funded, though it did preserve 1.8 million jobs.
Now, it's time to put the rubber to the road.
You have a problem with reality?
Try, that that half trillion (as I'm sure you meant to say) is still not enough.
But it still stands to create 2 million jobs.
For people.
People.
We can well afford it, and cannot afford not to.
Richard - I agree it did preserve 1.8 million government sector jobs... local municipalities, firemen, police, EMT's etc... but for how long? That funding has dried up and the cities and county funding can't support their positions for much longer because the tax base has fallen way short or they have overspent. I keep track of 3 different areas of the country. West Palm. Montgomery county Alabama and New Orleans. All three are having huge financial issues and are just barely hanging on.
I don't have a problem with funding infrastructure work in this country. It's a win/'win for everyone concerned. It will create jobs it will do some much needed repairs to the airports, the interstate, the ports and hopefully the electric grid.
I agree with the fact we need to do it. I just don't trust Mr. Shovel Ready to administer it. We trusted him once with $856 Billion and it was a massive failure because it didn't create any repairs to the infrastructure, create any jobs nor did it do what it was intended to do. Tax credits didn't give me the warm fuzzies... and the jobs it saved were only temporary.
Brianb,
When you talk about infrastructure work, and its a win, win. How does it work?
I know when Obama came into office he issued and Executive Order requiring the use of PLA which is usually awarded to unionized contractors and their all-union workforces. Are these only union jobs? Is it more of the same?
All you complainers of Obama and his JOBS PLAN. Whee is the GOP's? There are a couple out there, but no true plan that any of the GOP members can agree on, and you, GOP members, complain Obama doesn't know what his is doing, HA HA.
Your TEA PARTY follwers, at Tampa yesterday, cheered when asked if a 30 year old man in a coma with out health insurance should be allowed to DIE. Great, just great.
Again You GOP and TEA PART people call your selves Americans. and you refuse a fellow American to live, just because of your BELIEFS.
Thetotas - Not all states are union states. I realize that a lot of northern states are union only, when it comes to construction. That's exactly why I don't trust Obama with the funding. He'll put his union people to work first and they will get the benefits. Granted anyone employed is a good thing, but since Obama doesn't believe in the private sector, they will get nothing or the cast-offs. The win/win comes in the fact that people go back to work and improvements are made... something tangible for the money instead of the phantom tangibility we saw with stimulus I.
Derf - stop following liberal sourced news... it will rot your brain.
This is what I am worried about. The money that's being spent is is insane, trillion dollars is the new billion. In a blink of an eye, stimulus #1 is gone, and now we are looking at stimulus #2 or is it #3?
If you look at Obama's speeches from 2008 to 2011, it sounds like there was never a stimulus #1.
The federal government can not stipulate that the construction work be done by a union contractor, and they can not stipulate that it be done by a non union contractor, they can (and should) only stipulate that prevailing wages be paid. The prevailing wage is the wage customarily paid in that geographical area for that kind of work. To get a construction contract the contractor has to be the lowest reasonable bidder, it does not matter if he is union or non union he has to bid his projected labor cost at the prevailing wage. This obviously gives the edge to the non union contractor because all he has to pay his employees is the prevailing wage, he does not have to pay any benefits if he can hire people willing to work without them. The union contractor has to be the lowest reasonable bidder and yet he pays the prevailing wage or more if the union contract calls for it and he has to pay the benefits the union contract calls for. So don't worry if you thought the union shop will cost more, it does not, he still has to bid lower than the non union contractor to get the job. The extra money that the union contractor pays comes out of his pocket not the customers pocket. The job goes to the lowest reasonable bidder. This is why I tell you how hard the union guys really work, these guys have super training and are motivated, they have to be, the union contractor is banking on the fact that they will be more efficient than the non union crew or that money comes right out of his profit margin. The union contractor is banking on his crew getting more done faster, because he pays them more per hour but he still has to get the job done under his bid price to make a profit. It does not cost more to use the union construction contractor. Prevailing wage laws prevent a contractor in say Texas from bringing a crew to LA and putting the contractors there out of business, or forcing them to pay less to their employees to stay in business. Lets say your are a mason in LA and you make 45 bucks an hour, that is the prevailing wage for masonry work in LA, now a masonry contractor from Texas brings a crew and starts bidding masonry work at 15 bucks an hour, now you have to work for about 15 bucks an hour or the contractor from Texas is going to put your boss out of business. Prevailing wage laws protect the businessmen and their employees from being raided by anybody who is willing to work the cheapest. Some people who don't understand prevailing wages laws think it would be good to get rid of them. It would not, you don't want that, your boss don't want that, your landlord don't want that, the guy who owns the local pizza parlor don't want that, not if they understand prevailing wage laws. Getting rid of prevailing wage laws would degrade your community by preventing the employers in your community from providing jobs for the people who live in that community with pay that is commensurate with the cost of living in that community. You can't live in NY or LA on Texas wages, that is not hard to understand. If you ever get rid of the prevailing wage laws you would see some real dog eat dog, race to the bottom mayhem, way worse than you are already starting to see with governors giving away the store (taxpayers money) to attract business, until the next governor sweetens the pot a little more by giving more free taxpayers money away. If on top of that you got rid of prevailing wage laws, no matter where you live you might have to work for $11.20 an hour, but only till some body is willing to work for a little less.
@brianb Shoot this should have been at the beginning of the post above.
There is no such thing as union only construction, I really wish that was true but it is not, not even in the north, there is no union only or non union only for that matter laws, it is the same everywhere. Union and non union contractors can do business in any state they wish, that is a fact. But thank god there are prevailing wage laws. Please get back to me on this when you can I will be happy to discuss this, plus I wrote that damn long post twice because FR ate he first one, I got some time invested and I want people to know the truth and properly understand how it is.
@brianb and thetotas
Shoot I meant to add that we can talk PLA's too if you want me to explain them.
Richard,
If you believe this board is a true measure of how all Americans feels you my friend are a complete idiot! I bet not even 30% buy the BS you and the rest of the First Dweeb sheep spew in here on a daily basis.
Losing the NY senate seat last night, now that's how America feels about you useless liberals!
Mornin', Bob-14!
Read msn's article on that NY election, and note the demographic of that district.
It is hardly a representation of rest of the country.
Forrest -
Thanks for the enlightening 'prevailing wage' explanation.
(and, for the time invested!)
Brianb -
"...something tangible for the money instead of the phantom tangibility we saw with stimulus I."
"According to Rep. James Oberstar, the Minnesota Democrat who chairs the House of Representatives Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, 24,000 miles of roads are being improved and 1,100 bridge repairs made."
"Oberstar said the stimulus transportation elements have created 280,000 direct, on-project jobs, and that when indirect and induced jobs are added to the mix, they kept 890,000 people employed. An indirect or induced job could be, for example, a materials supplier for a contractor on a building project."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2010/02/23/idUKN2312062820100223
Those figures hardly seem 'phantom'.
Forrest,
Thanks for taking the time out to explain, and not jumping on me for asking.
You are quite welcome.
Hey, Smiff- where's your guy Me First Bill? Seems the taking of this jobs bill to the people had him pretty stirred up earlier. You covering for him while he catches his breath?
Who's gonna provide the oxygen tanks and masks for all you nitwitts tomorrow and other upcoming days on First Thoughts, as you realize that as Obama takes this to the REAL 'Supreme' Court- the American People, they are going to be on board with it in numbers WAY larger than a handful of baggers and firsters like you guys?
Yeah, Yeah- I know: Buzz is off the rails agian.....
Again? That implies that at some point you were on the rails.
"Again? That implies that at some point you were on the rails."
...........and, thank you.
You're welcome Buzz, and you have a nice evening.
There is noting brilliant about Obama, nothing brilliant about his speach, and nothing brilliant about his plan. We have had bad Presidents before, and I think anyone who has surveyed this Country's history of presidential policies will tell you we have some bad policies in this Country, but never have we had a President that is so far to the left that he is off the grid on everything. I don't care what the left say about Obama. It is my belief that Obama has a plan to defeat the United States, to tear it apart and make it impotant 3rd world country. In short, he wants to destroy America and our way of life. His actions as well as his inactions speak volumes as to where he stands and what he wants to accomplish, and none of it is beneficial to our Unuted States. The only thing we as citizens of this great Country can do is to vote him out of office.
Sounds EXACTLY like Boehner, McConnell, Cantor and Norquist. "Hold the U.S. hostage" until they get"98% of what we were after." Really doing their best to defeat the United States I'd say, and were successfull in getting the downgrade for the first time in history.
Stupid - Who's more a threat - a liberal ideology that is turning this country into a socialist state, or a conservative ideology that wants to maintain the Constitution as the rule of law? Obama said early on that he would do more if it weren't for the Constitution getting in his way. More what Stupid? If the Constitution gets in his way, there's only one meaning behind that... He would like to go around it but legally he can't.
Brianb:
Who's more a threat - a conservative tea party Republican who will harm this nation and her citizens in order to make a profit, create personal gain, greedily increase income without paying taxes, or a progressive thinking ideology that wants to maintain equality, freedom, and improvement for this country? A Republican who puts free enterprise ahead of American Citizens, or a Democrat who insists upon equality of the people?
Where is the source of your allegation "early on?" And, bottom line, President Obama, by YOUR own statement, has chosen to "maintain the Constitution as the rule of law..." instead of greedily forsaking or ignoring it for another dollar. Ergo, you don't make any sense whatsoever - incongruous, illogical, statements of untrue spin; transparent biased Presidential hatred.
Pass the bill. If you don't, you Republican-Tea Potty will be sent home. Give then Hell Mr. President.
Republicans need to stop cockblocking OBAMA
"Cease obstructionism and pass the bill. If it fails, then you have grounds to bash Obama"
Nope....you moonbats would only continue the "it is Bush's fault.." mantra.'
Obama's bill is not a jobs bill, it is a "confiscate the wealth of the private sector" Spread the Wealth" Bill...., bill.
But soon, as Thatcher famously predicted, the socialists will run out of other people's money.
The Obama speech mostly gave us a sense of déjà vu. From the president’s language, you would never know that Congress already has acted under his watch to save jobs — the $800 billion stimulus plan passed shortly after he took office.
“Over the next two years, this plan will save or create 3.5 million jobs,” Obama proclaimed in a speech to a similar joint session of Congress on Feb. 24, 2009. I'm not sure about the jobs saved part, but the country has certainly not created net jobs since then — there are almost 2 million fewer jobs since he made those remarks 2 1/2 years ago. So here’s a pop quiz from the Washington Post. Which of the following quotes came from the 2009 speech, and which quotes came from the speech this week?
1. “More than 90 percent of these jobs will be in the private sector — jobs rebuilding our roads and bridges; constructing wind turbines and solar panels; laying broadband and expanding mass transit.”
2. “It will lead to new jobs for construction workers, teachers, veterans, first responders, young people and the long-term unemployed.”
3. “It’s a plan that won’t help speculators or that neighbor down the street who bought a house he could never hope to afford, but it will help millions of Americans who are struggling with declining home values — Americans who will now be able to take advantage of the lower interest rates that this plan has already helped bring about. In fact, the average family who refinances today can save nearly $2,000 per year on their mortgage.”
4. “We’re going to work with federal housing agencies to help more people refinance their mortgages at interest rates that are now near 4 percent — a step that can put more than $2,000 a year in a family’s pocket, and give a lift to an economy still burdened by the drop in housing prices.”
5. “Ask yourselves — where would we be right now if the people who sat here before us decided not to build our highways and our bridges; our dams and our airports? What would this country be like if we had chosen not to spend money on public high schools, or research universities, or community colleges? Millions of returning heroes, including my grandfather, had the opportunity to go to school because of the GI Bill. Where would we be if they hadn’t had that chance?”
6. “History reminds us that at every moment of economic upheaval and transformation, this nation has responded with bold action and big ideas. In the midst of civil war, we laid railroad tracks from one coast to another that spurred commerce and industry. From the turmoil of the Industrial Revolution came a system of public high schools that prepared our citizens for a new age. In the wake of war and depression, the GI Bill sent a generation to college and created the largest middle-class in history. And a twilight struggle for freedom led to a nation of highways, an American on the moon, and an explosion of technology that still shapes our world.”
7. “It also charges this Congress to come up with an additional $1.5 trillion in savings.”
8. “We have already identified $2 trillion in savings over the next decade.”
9. “The only way to fully restore America’s economic strength is to make the long-term investments that will lead to new jobs, new industries, and a renewed ability to compete with the rest of the world.”
10. “If we provide the right incentives and support — and if we make sure our trading partners play by the rules — we can be the ones to build everything from fuel-efficient cars to advanced biofuels to semiconductors that are sold all over the world.”
11. “To preserve our long-term fiscal health, we must also address the growing costs in Medicare and Social Security.”
12. “But with an aging population and rising health care costs, we are spending too fast to sustain the program. And if we don’t gradually reform the system while protecting current beneficiaries, it won’t be there when future retirees need it. We have to reform Medicare to strengthen it.”
(Answers: The 2009 speech contained 1, 3, 6, 8, 9 and 11)
Still all sounded the same to me.
2/13/2008
Democrat Barack Obama said Wednesday that as president he would spend $210 billion to create jobs in construction and environmental industries, as he tried to win over economically struggling voters.
Obama's investment would be over 10 years as part of two programs. The larger is $150 billion to create 5 million so-called "green collar" jobs to develop more environmentally friendly energy sources.
Sixty billion would go to a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank to rebuild highways, bridges, airports and other public projects. Obama estimated that could generate nearly 2 million jobs, many of them in the construction industry that's been hit by the housing crisis.
"This agenda is paid for," Obama said as the Republican National Committee promoted an "Obama Spend-O-Meter" online to track his proposals and portray him as a tax-and-spend liberal. Obama explained that the money for his spending proposals will come from ending the Iraq war, cutting tax breaks for corporations, taxing carbon pollution and raising taxes on high income earners.
theotas: If this is a cut and paste, you need to give attribution. If you don't, you can be banned for plagiarism
Ok NDD,
I thought the date on the post would have been good enough, I get it, ride my ass. Just remember not all of us here have the privilege to post links.
As far as your banned comment, we all know you're part of the Libs-R- Us group, so I will take that comment as a threat.
usatoday,com/news/politics, you can find the rest.
RETURNED,
If you honestly think I did this purposely, go for it, have me banned. You reek of hypocrisy, maybe you should address the banned issue with Feisty, or Bev, no?
You know theotas: your paranoia is really frightening. Does it occur to you that I was trying to TEACH you something? It is clear to me that you have not had a very good education. Ergo: I am teaching you what freshmen in high school know. YOU GIVE ATTRIBUTION: Which by definition, includes, article name, publication, author, and date. Those are the rules on Newsvine, and you are not exempt. Now. Be a good little girl, go to Newsvine COH and READ IT.
A THREAT? Oh, gimme a break here. You can tell us where you got the information so we can look for it ourselves. You can alter the link so that the software doesn't recognize it as a link. Leave off the www or add a space at an obvious location, something like that. There are several things you can do to give attribution as required by COH without pasting a link.
Hope that helps.
Ahh, newday, cut the poser some slack! She already knows everything, so what could you possibly teach her?
Apparently the effort of a proper citation is only something Liberals were taught in school. I see she still hasn't learned not to mess with you, do you remember this oldie but goodie:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/05/05/6592522-inside-the-boiler-room-bin-laden-a-2012-game-changer?commentId=20750644#c20750644
If ever there was a phony poster, thetotas takes the cake. The view must be quite lovely from the right hand of G-d, eh?
Some people should really get over themselves,...a simple mea culpa would suffice!
Oh geez poor Theotas, the paranoids are after her again.
In another day and time, she'd be worried there are 'Commies' under her bed. Could it be she is a leftover from the days of McCarthy.
You can get treatment for that condition and there are no threats involved.
ok, so Obama showed how the bill would be paid for, with some changes to the tax code affecting the people that can most afford to pay a little more. Well that won't work for the GOP who are against any tax increases unless they are for the scumbag, leeching poor.
So how about another way to pay for it. How about we trim the $700 billion/year defense budget? The defense budget that has DOUBLED in the last decade but that they could only agree to cut $350 billion out of over 10 years. $350 billion cut from the $7 Trillion that they are scheduled to receive. That's it. That's all they could stand to cut. 5%.
If you are not for cutting the defense budget then you at the very least have to admit that it is just a big, government run JOBS PROGRAM.
desperate far left liberals are running scared obviously....its almost pathetic at this point
the country is so tired of your failed policies and political games
soon the country will be back on track and start digging out of this massive ditch President Food Stamps has put us in
http://www.attackwatch.com/
Just imagine if any other President condoned this type of behavior.
W would be called Hitler (or Stalin) in an instant.
President Obama will take what is given from this "do nothing-inhibit the president" Congress, because he knows he can't legislate or control the budget! Yes, three years and counting as the current Congress(112th) has done absolutely nothing about generating or legislating jobs here in America. Only Congress can legislate jobs, the president cannot hire us out of the slowing recovery. Only Congress can budget for the economy, as the president cannot control and only make suggestions. President Obama has introduced legislation that should be considered to help reduce unemployment and reward business's who hire. 8.7 million jobs lost due to the housing bubble and the bush recession. The stimulus help jump start this recovery, but now the recovery is losing steam and Obama's suggestion who stoke the jobs engine some. This "do nothing-inhibit the president" Congress will again do nothing as their entire concentration is to stymie the president and kill every bill passed by the last Congress. This Congress has been taken over by the confrontational TEA party, rendering the GOP defunct and useless! It astounds me that people are easily manipulated and gullible to fall for the lies and falsifications put forth by the TEA party. This poverty rate also belongs to the TEA party inspired GOP, along with the recent down grading of America's credit rating and the still stagnant housing bubble! To all those who try to blame this current situation on the president, remember Congress controls the budget, taxes and legislation.
Rudy...I understand you want to stick by the guy you voted for and make excuses for him....but you just don't get it...the Tea party is not manipulating the American people.....the American people are the Tea Party....the American people voted the Tea Party in and the liberals out in historic record-breaking numbers in Nov '10
the congress had been in Democratic control in 07,08, 09 and 10 so what is your defense?
if you think Nov '10 was bad for Democrats just wait for Nov '12.....its coming....
And you can add one more lost seat to that, NY last night. Be afraid Democrats, be very afraid!
If the media would bring solid attention to the greatly organized, the extensive financial support, the complete ongoing dependency, with the resulting bold intimidation of and effective control over candidates / politicians, and also to the aggressive overt and covert efforts, aimed at the complete duping and manipulation of the public, all being exercised by third party organizations who represent Special Interests and the powerful, influential and very wealthy few, then the public would have a real chance to recognize and reject those tactics. The Republican Party and their protege Tea Party, more than the Democratic Party because of the differences in ideology, are effectively owned and controlled as “puppets” by those few who benefit and who are literally “pulling the strings”.
Those few have experienced success in past efforts and now are even more arrogant and cocky with the “cancer” just being more apparent. We saw their well designed, well financed and well organized efforts with the manipulation of the Christian block (2000 and ongoing), the Swift-boat propaganda (2004) and in the Tea Party emotional extremes (2010 and now); we have heard the likes of Grover Norquist (“AntiTax Pledge”) bragging how they can “make / break” candidates who cooperate / don’t cooperate; and with third party groups, like Norquist’s, Rove’s and Cheney’s, we see the forced unity effectively squelching individual consciences and intended to assure support only for the interests of the few (like blocking all reforms, being against letting Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy expire and to maintain the excessive concessions for oil companies); we know their stubborn refusal to cooperate in any bipartisanship and rather to always just fault and block all Democratic efforts; we saw the costly results with Bush-Cheney and their total concentration on benefiting the few while giving the majority only apathy, the costs and an abundance of subterfuge to rationalize and con (the governance style they now want to return to). The crazy thing is they actually expect to be rewarded for that behavior.
We already know the extreme costs to the majority but unless we recognize the constant aggressive and deceptive efforts, continually being renewed and always adapting, we are vulnerable to the manipulation. With the likes of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Eric Cantor, Michele Bachmann,,, there is the constant deceptive rhetoric trying to appeal to fears, biases, prejudices and emotions, backed by the theatrics of the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, Palin and others aimed to sway public opinion. Some of it is so bazaar as to be ridiculous and most all of it is irresponsible deception but none the less, it is persistent and extensive and it can simply have its effect. The Republican Party today really has no choice as they are just in too deep, they are totally committed and even arrogantly confident in their completely dependent relationship (which literally renders them incapable of ever responsibly governing for all of the people); only the voters can break the hold and encourage them to return to being the Grand Ole Party, once again with a conscience for the people, by firmly rejecting what they have become. To ignore or excuse all of this would be to facilitate a return to “more of the same” (Bush-Cheney style) which cost us so much and would again be a catastrophe for the majority, especially for the total middle-class.
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Pass this bill now!!