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Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin speaks during a Tea Party Express rally on Sept. 5, in Manchester, New Hampshire.
By NBC's Alex Moe
MANCHESTER, NH –- In a small park in the first-in-the-nation primary state, Sarah Palin spent her Labor Day addressing a Tea Party Express rally. She was critical of President Obama and, at times, it seemed Palin was building for a presidential announcement of her own.
“We need people with a proven record of reform and who are willing to take on the tough challenges to run into danger, if you will, not away from it,” the former Alsaska governor said as the crowd broke out in chants of “you” and “run, Sarah, run.”
But she was quick to back away and focused her speech on the Tea Party movement.
“We need to grow this moment,” Palin told the crowd of more than 1,000 supporters in Veterans Memorial Park. “The Tea Party movement is bigger than any one person and it’s not about any one candidate, and thank goodness we don’t have any one single leader.”
"Now we're seeing more and more folks realize the strength of this grassroots movement and they're wanting to be involved," Palin said without giving specific names. "I say, `Right on, better late than never,' for some of these campaigns, especially."
There were volunteers for Ron Paul and Hermain Cain working the crowd Monday and Mitt Romney headlined a Tea Party event Sunday night.
She also echoed themes from her speech in Iowa earlier this weekend, where she talked more broadly about the nation’s problems with "crony capitalism," debt, and the “incompetent leadership” of the current president.
“We are telling Washington that my kid is not your ATM,” Palin said. She had earlier told the crowd that it was because of them that the new governing class was sent to Washington, D.C., in 2010.
“I felt I could relate a little to her and I thought the speech was wonderful,” Donna Parenteau, of Goffstown, NH told NBC News following the speech. “And I hope she runs for president.”
But not everyone was convinced.
“I didn’t really hear anything new,” Andy Bridge of Amherst, NH said. “I don’t think Sarah’s positions on budget and deficit issues are much different from the other big candidates or even from democrats,” he told NBC News. Bridge said he likes Governor Palin but will be supporting Ron Paul in the New Hampshire primary.
Palin, NBC News was told, arrived in the Granite State Sunday after running a half-marathon in Iowa under her maiden name. She ate dinner at a local landmark in Manchester, The Puritan Backroom, where she and her husband, Todd, were greeted by a Marine and his bride who came out to take a picture during their wedding reception.
After making speeches in both Iowa and New Hampshire, two early voting states, the question remains as the holiday weekend draws to a close, will she or won’t she? Sarah Palin has indicated her “drop dead” date for a possible presidential announcement is the end of September.
After running a half-marathon in Iowa, Sarah Palin is in New Hampshire where she was met by an unexpected couple. NBC's Alex Moe also previews Palin's Tea Party speech in Manchester.
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Palin WHO?
Instead of another story of the Dumba@@ quitter from the Northwoods - how about a thread about the Presidents speech in Detroit?
He took it directly to those who are responsible for the lack of J O B S - CONGRESS!
NOW that's what I'm talking about!
It's great to see OUR President Fired Up and Ready to GO!
I know I am! ;o)
This statement is more then ironic coming from someone who when faced with tough challenges QUIT!
Further evidence you just can't fix stupid!
A quick hello, Feisty, and then back to chores. Palin won't run. Which is a shame, wish she would. But, you do have to wonder how anyone can take her seriously when she quit on Alaska the way that she did. Happy Labor Day!
"after running a half-marathon in Iowa under her maiden name"....
Typical Village Idiot maneuver!...Keep'em guessing....
Media, please do everyone a favor and focus on real issues...but of course, Palin is comedy relief, in these serious times!
Palin is doing what she is being paid and 'handled' to do - Coalesce the disparate faction of the GOP.
'Bottom feeder' would sum that up.
It really is YOU NDD!
You have NO idea how happy I am to see you!
Hope everything is well up in your neck of the woods! ;o)
Things are sort of fine, but very busy. This is getting to be a very strange election year. I am wondering if there is going to be a third party challenge from the far right if Mittens is the nominee? I can see Bachmann in particular doing that.
I'm positive this election will be like none other...
These pundits should throw all the CW right out the window - I have! ;o)
This quitter when the going gets tough seems pretty nervy criticizing ANYONE when she is nothing but a rabble rousing quitter who has no staying power. Her one claim to fame is her oft opened big mouth into which she manages to stick her foot all the while decrying the behavior of someone else. All her rules only apply to OTHERS, particularly others who are Democrats. Her constant yapping does our party no good. and that is because her yapping is so inane. Even if she fails to run which I am fairly certain will be the case, she can ruin it for Republicans by shoving herself into the limelight all the while she is looking so ditzy!
The political version of "Bumfights" Couple idiots going at it!
This may be the most entertaining election EVER! It seems like the Republican Party is engaged in a race to the bottom, which is really frightening. But, it never ceases to amaze me how they can ascribe blame to the President for their own willful obstruction, and how the least among us believe it.
No kidding - it's already a laugh a minute!
How's our godchild doing?
IR asked about him often...
It's great to see OUR President Fired Up and Ready to GO!
Yes it is. And great to hear that huge crowd as he spoke!
(I hear 300 showed up to see Parry yesterday.)
Sey is very pleased about his new jewelry, a pretty blue and yellow tag that mark his Canine Good Citizen status. He did very well during testing, we were first, which meant we couldn't see the heeling pattern, but Sey thought that just made it more fun. It was eyes up and on me, and he danced through testing, including having a pan banged with a metal spoon, wheelchairs and bicycles rolling by him when he was on sit/stay. Interestingly enough, he has never seen a bike, though he has had horses go by him. We took the rest of the summer off, since I had elder care, and he should head back to school soon.
4 MORE YEARS... 4 MORE YEARS...
@NDD - Check your e-mail! ;o)
Feisty, you used the word 'ironic' regarding Palin's comments. I think the word is 'moronic.'
Got it Feisty.
I'm guessing you mean the 110th and 111th?
Surely, if after 3 yrs. nothing is the Big O's fault you are not insinuating that our current employment issue lie with people who have been in control for less than nine months?
I mean, that would just sound nuts, right?
Here's the low-life criminal scum who "rallied" up the crowd for the Big O. Hilarious. I'm starting to believe he does things just so he won't get re-elected. He just wants to golf and party with celebrities.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/05/jimmy_hoffa_at_obama_event_on_gop_lets_take_these_son_of_bitches_out.html
To quote the 'Dick' -- SO?
At least he wan't screamin kill him like the tea baggers at the Palin rallies...
Good catch Lize! Thanks! ;o)
Enough from the self-promotional peanut gallery. What has Palin done to make reporters give her the time of day -- Has she formed an exploratory committee, hired campaign staff, held meetings with campaign donors, what?
The media is just as self-promotional as some of the right-wingers, looking for ratings. Let me guess, you'll give Giuliani another 15 minutes of fame on the 10-year anniversary of 9-11. Maybe he'll have pizza with Trump and you can report on that too. Enough!
Those who aren't serious, who aren't willing to put skin in the game and actually run, why are they being given the spot light for influence? The lack of substance is bad enough. Palin needs to try some of that fancy pageant walking and pack it back home.
NDD and Feisty,
Welcome back NDDR! You were missed.
Feisty, I totally agree this article should be about the speech Obama gave in Detroit. He has a strong message to Congress, get on the track for new jobs bill, leave all this manufactured crisis aside. This is not a partisan policy but a role for government to act for along with labor and business to put the American people first and put people to work .
He was
None of the shouts of "kill him" came from the guest speaker. But way to deflect. You're one of the reasons why our nation is floundering. Way to go.
Well said TP. She's free to give all the speeches she wants. We don't have to hear about every stop. Do they even give Obama this much exposure?
I think Palin's plan is to wait for the Republican's to have a candidate, then use the Tea Party to bully her way into the VP spot. President's work too hard.
New day dawning, Glad to have you back. I look forward chatting with you again.
Thanks for agreement on too much coverage for Palin, a FOX Noise staff member no less (no bias there). But yes, that's what we're saying. A Republican majority for 390 days +, and no jobs bill, actually no bills at all.
Mitt "Gordon Gekko" Romney is out there putting the president down. I wish we could put it to a test, with Romney as POTUS in 2008 against a hypothetical Democratic obstructionist Party of No, and see how well things would be now for him or anyone else. The GOP/TP are posers, who would have failed miserably even with a cooperative congress.
Hi lisa -- haven't seen you around!
Hope Irene didn't cause you too many headaches...
@kickingant
To continue this fantasy - As VP, she takes the prez duck hunting...
(Much better shot than Cheney.)
But, seriously - She's a paid shill and a grifter. No more, maybe less.
But, glad she finished a 1/2 marathon in 8:10 splits!
The crowd was scooping up the cottage cheese she left behind!
I am so sick of hearing the republican nominees running for president, blaming the President for everything, they must have amnesia. Pres. Clinton left the government in the black and it only took eight years for the Replicans to put us in the red. President Obama inherited their problems and I can only say that the republicans main agenda is to get the President out of office and the heck with the American people that are struggling. Palin wasn't a woman of her word she left her state before her term was over. If she was elected Pres. would she one day just decide she didn't want to be president because someone else offered her more money.
TP
Not true, their proposals have been shot down. They control the house, still have to deal with the senate and the Big O.
390? How many days for the democratically controlled senate? 930?
Feisty, Thanks for the good wishes. We had to evacuate for a few days but we didn't sustain any damage. I have been listening just haven't posted. It disturbs me that we are so divided as Americans. I hope that we can come up with compromise that will get Americans back to work.
Holly mooly - listened to the Pres' speech driving home today.
You libbies are ready for some major disappointment come Thursday, right?
So bad, First Read apparently knows better to touch it with a ten foot pole.
Oh and Feisty and especially NewDay [your timing is perfect] - how about that moron Hoffa? "we gotta take the Tea Party out!"
Sounds real civil, eh?
What would Gabby say? And how come Obama sat there and just smiled?
Yo - TruePatriot - that's the thing with leaders. They lead, especially in the face of opposition.
You really think all the great leaders did not have to overcome opposition looking for them to fail? Really, or is it just this "leader" who can overcome opposition?
And could that be because this particular leader has never lead, has no actual experience, and really has no idea what he is doing?
Just maybe.
Doug Ponders
It is true, They had no proposals. if there are, please tell me which bills, I need something like H.R. and number, I would like to see those bills. you need to do research before disputing somebody.
Spanky,
I haven't seen such huge opposition to president for long time, usually parties eventually compromise, but this time they are just opposing to everything even own bill if president or democratic congress present it.
stopnow
I am so sick of hearing the republican nominees running for president, blaming the President for everything, they must have amnesia.
Seriously?
Obama is the most embarrassing excuse for a President in modern history. He has made more speeches blaming more people than any leader in history. Bush is the most popular topic among liberals nearly 3 years after he is gone, and Obama's promises before he was elected are all but forgotten.
Your savior claimed all kinds of things he was going to do. He was going to fix the jobs problem. Hell, after he was elected he claimed if we just let him spend $900 billion or so he could get things all set, with all those "shovel ready" jobs (he he).
If he were a CEO, he would already have been shown the door, as he is an abject failure, and a serial complainer / blamer.
Yeah, I bet your sick of hearing all of the failures tied to Obama.
We'er just sick of Obama period.
Well, I see nothing has changed. Feisty, you are STILL getting collapsed! lisa and Northstar! Missed you both. lisa, so glad to know that you got through the storms.
Not I maksim80.
But you should. I'll give you an easy one.
The budget the senate rejected out of hand. But hey....it's the Democratic senate......their motto is "we don't need no stinkin' budget"....
Oh come on! Leave poor Sarah Fail-in alone. The self-deposed governor of Alaska is just trying to find her way in the world of politics. Searching for a job which would suit her abilities. She wanted the job of Targeting Specialist, programing the impact points for our nuclear missiles but during the test, she programed Moscow, Idaho into the test computer instead of Moscow, Russia. So who knew their was a Moscow, Idaho? I didn't...
"We need to grow [the tea party] movement" (because my whole income is based on fleecing you idiots at these speaches.....)
I wonder where those teeth have been.
I'm guessing in a glass on her nightstand soaking in the Polident? lol
HI NDD....so great to see you here again, we have missed you and you tales of the Northwood and our godchild, Sey. happy to hear is doing well and that you are too. Hope you will be staying a while, your friends have missed you, and your take on life. Stay well and be safe and happy. HUGS.
Doug Ponders
I should provide you with bill? is it joke or you serious? hey moron, you one who claimed that GOP had proposals that they tried to pass and were turn down. Those called Bills, they classified them as H.R. and number. so get your lazy ass from chair and give one that deals with jobs. If you can't find it, then shut up and don't talk about it
HI, GBM: Glad to chat with you too. Have missed you all. Will be in and out for awhile!
hummmmm. Glad to see your back newdayDAWNING...RETURNED. What a grand announcement, I am just wondering, we all know that you are part of the Libs-R-Us group, and we all remember how you said good bye. I think it had something to do with integrity.
FYI, HI NDD....
It really is YOU NDD!
You have NO idea how happy I am to see you!
Hope everything is well up in your neck of the woods!
And now comes theotas, who still cannot write a relevant post. Tell me, when will you realize that this isn't a middle school site and actually post something worth reading?
newdayDAWNING10 (Jun 18, 9:15 PM): Navy: I have been thinking about this: We have never hidden that we are a group. You would have to be foolish to think we don't talk strategy. It is not a secret that we don't like no jo, and she doesn't like us. If you read the response from the one guy who read it he said "so". Look, it has to be fixed, but I wouldn't be too upset about it.
Again with your condescending attitude, you are so pathetic. You and the Lib-R-Us, group should be embarrassed, its a friggen blog. Do you have any meetings scheduled? You know the ones, who will be deleted, blocked, banned or my favorite the Advertising Button.
Integrity, I don't think so.
Well..well... will you look at that NDD?
The nasty old snatch really does get off on reading private info...
As she has admitted previously - she has it tucked away for safe keeping! tee hee
Not like we would expect anything less from her... lmfao!
And she has the audacity to lecture anyone on integrity... rolling on the freakin floor laughing!
To the tatas - Bitter party of one your table is ready you stinky old b!tch!
PS: I have NEVER seen a broad with a bigger persecution complex then her...
Even the NJ nut job doesn't come close... lol
Feisty,
Stinky old b!tch, coming from you, now that's classic.
I seriously doubt that you are rolling around on the floor (help me I've fallen and I cant get up) somebody better call Lifeline and quick.
Persecution complex, you mean like you and your obsession with being the Queen B here at FR. Your so paranoid, no one want to take your kingdom from you, we all know that's all you have.
Now go and have a nice evening, but remember we have a two drink rule here.
Honey -- you are the epitme of a shriveled bitter old broad...
You should wear it like a badge of honor...
One of these day's you will be blog worthy - until then PULEEZE carry on - I can't get enough of youR comic relief1
SNIFFF... SNIFF...
Oh my, theotas, have a care...what you just wrote is the type of thing that will get you banned through Newsvine's Code of Honor. So, since I am still trying to figure out if you have a reason to be on a political blog, let's explore this: theotas: I expect a response to the following questions: What famous document lists certain freedoms that citizens have? Be specific. In that document, a right of freedom of association is implied: where is that located? What Supreme Court decision affirms the right to freely associate with like minded people? Name it, and the issue that was litigated. There were two schools of thought predominant in the founding of this country. They were? Name one important founder that represents each school. One group had this document revised and added what? Which takes me back to, where does one find the right to freely associate? Now, YOU, theotas seem to posit that the right of free association should not be accorded to citizens of this nation. What steps would you have to take to eliminate that right, and what would that be called? Now, I realize that conspiracy thinking is SOOO much fun, but really theotas, get a life!
PS: I have NEVER seen a broad with a BIGGER persecution than this one...
Not even the neurtotic nut job from NJ - pull up your big girl panties and deal with it darling! ;o)
Jaysus, Feisty, what on earth was all that over? I get the feeling that theotas doesn't like us. But, I guess she retains the right to dislike others, while denying that those of a differing political persuasion may have the same right!
Returned,
Not true, how have I denied your right?
FYI, its has nothing to do with political persuasion. I dont like Feisty, and yes its very personal.
I stand by my words.
Feisty,
WHO the F@#K died and left you in charge?
I stand by my original observation - you're a coward and an idiot!
Oh, and, ONE MORE TIME - IF you don't like what I have to say then don't freakin READ it!
Instead you stand LOUD & PROUD for supression...
In the meantime - go wrap yourself in a flag and carry a cross will ya?
Ah yes, no surprise, theotas cannot answer basic questions about the Founding of this country. You want respect from me, theotas, answer the questions. Why do I ask? Just this: Those of us who are in a group met on this blog. We found that we had much in common. Newsvine, if you EVER take the time to understand why it exists, encourages the formation of groups so that like minded people may get to know one another. If you search the list of groups, you will find that there are many conservative groups too. The only group that has been challenged is ours. Now, you either believe that people have the right to freely associate, or you don't. But, let me remind you that countries that don't allow free association all have dictators at the helm. I don't know what your problem is, or the challenges of your life, but I do know this: you can either discuss the issues of the day or you cannot. Right now, it seems you cannot. This blog is not about middle school bullsh***it is about the issues of the day. You want to gain traction on FR, start talking issues. I really cannot tell you how little it matters to me if you like me, or Feisty or anyone else. Get off the conspiratorial thinking, learn what Newsvine is and what it offers, and learn about the issues of the day. I do expect you to both research and answer the questions above. It would go a long way to helping you gain any credibility whatsoever. But, to be clear, you attack me personally on FR, I will call you on it.
So it is 2016...another 4 yrs of this at the least.
Brace yourselves folks...
The night shift of the phony constitutional loving collapse cowards are punching in...
I still can't comprehend WHY they feel the necessity to supress those who disagree...
Well, come to think about it - they rule by fear - so maybe I can! ;o)
On the upside, the more they collapse - the higher the vote totals go... then again they are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier!
The two worst candidates are Rick Perry and Ron Paul...... Paul would scare me to death when it comes to security of this country. He wants to back away from our support of our only friend Israel in the Middle East. Perry said he agrees with Vicente Fox's dream of open borders with the US... He tried as hard as he could a few times to pass a multi-billion dollar super hwy going into Mexico...He supported having Mexican trucks enter and work in the US..This takes thousands of jobs from the American trucking industry. He gave the Dream Act to illegals which was all his doing, which cost the tax payers millions of dollars........He gave free medical and even gave free medical to Mexicans on the Mex side of the border, all on the tax payers dime. He fought like crazy to pass a bill making all kids starting in the sixth grade take a vaccine that had to do with sexual activity, which would have cost many millions of dollars. After it failed the first time he even tried again and failed. They later found he had major connection to Merck, who would have supplied the vaccine. He gave major appointments to Hispanics that were in no way qualified, like the court, etc. He also made appointments to people that made contribution's to his campaign. Please give me someone honest like Sarah Palin and Romney as her Vice President. Palin/2012"
honest your dumb ass all these pubs are traders
As opposed to quitting your governor's job?
Associated Press
Sarah Palin set to attend South Korea forum
Associated Press, 09.01.11, 08:30 AM EDT
SEOUL, South Korea -- Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is expected to visit South Korea next month to speak at a global business forum.
Organizers said Thursday that Palin is slated to attend the 2011 World Knowledge Forum on Oct. 11-13.
Palin was the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee and is weighing a presidential bid.
Palin has said she will announce in late September whether she will run.
She is expected to discuss U.S leadership in a world struggling with financial turmoil at the Seoul conference.
About 250 people from 40 countries are expected to attend the forum, including former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown.
She just got back from India as the keynote speaker with a one hour Q&A after the speech.
All of the heads of country were in attendance also heads of industry.
It sold out the first day, many of the top stars were also there.
On the way back she stopped in Israel. Benjamin Netinyahu wanted to give her a formal State Diner but Sarah said no thank you.
She said yes to a private diner with the Prime Minister and his wife at their home.
Before that she was keynote speaker at the Association of Business Leaders of New York, held on Long Island.
That had a one hour Q&A sessions after.
There were others like, Hong Kong and Germany, ect
She does many charities for free.
Sarah Palin one of three that command a minimum of one hundred thousand for speaking, if in this country.
Palin, Clinton, and George W. and it looks like Palin gets most of the jobs.
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She can draw a crowd. She get's her group very excited. Her group isn't that large and, like her, isn't that smart. She's a sham. One of the times that I would be really open to a Republican candidate and they keep throwing up morons like Palin, Perry, and Bachmann. I'd vote for Ron Paul in a heartbeat before giving so much as a thought to those three stooges.
Feisty you got collapsed because all you do is spam nonsense and mindless reposts along with navy. Every single political thread you guys are amazingly first, using a ton of words to say basically nothing. We get it, you love Obama NO MATTER WHAT. You can stop now. Frankly, it's annoying to have to scroll past your nonsense on every thread just to get to the people who have something intelligent to say. Wether I agree with their point of view or not.
WHO the F@#K died and left you in charge?
I stand by my original observation - you're a coward and an idiot!
Oh, and, ONE MORE TIME - IF you don't like what I have to say then don't freakin READ it!
Instead you stand LOUD & PROUD for supression...
In the meantime - go wrap yourself in a flag and carry a cross will ya?
Listen to yourself for a minute. Seriously.
fiesty seems to be suffering from an unusually severe case of Palin Envy today! Let's hope she calms down with a few mojitos... her favorite.
If nothing else Palin has generated a lot of hate from the OLM (old liberal media) and Obama's favorite appologist, the redwig. This distraction with someone who is not running for anything, including President is enabling the left to avoid answering the question: Why would we reelect another Jimmy Carter during the worse recession the country has ever had under his current term? Redwig will NEVER respond to that important question, never!
Give the Republicans a chance, they will come up with a suitable candidate to reverse the downturn this country has been experiencing for almost 3 years now.
“We need people with a proven record of reform and who are willing to take on the tough challenges to run into danger, if you will, not away from it,”
Spoken like a true GOP hypocrite.
Spoken like someone who quit her job as Alaska's governor before her term was over. What a sham.
Thank you "Alil Common Sense" for you comments about Feisty Redhead and Retired Navy! Well said! It's so annoying to have to scroll past their drivel all of the time.
Here is a GIANT clue for you!
If you don't like what we write - put us on ingore author - otherwise STFU!
Judging by the vote total - you my friend are in the silent minority! ;oP
PS: The good news is - all of YOUR kind and your collapsing bull@!$%# only drives OUR vote totals up
Then again, when all you have left is licking yout crotch.... well... say NO more! ;o)
Seriously feisty, you really are behaving rather childishly. For the record, I am against collapsing posts, and I have never collapsed anybody's..... even yours. However, I can certainly understand why others might be so inclined. I suggest you take this as constructive criticism, rather than seeing it as somehow proving that I "stand LOUD & PROUD for supression..." or suggesting that I " go wrap yourself in a flag and carry a cross will ya?". I suggest you go back and read what you wrote, what I wrote, and the manner in which you responded. I am not going to bother to ask that you apologize for behaving like a spoiled 4 year old.
Each Republican candidate has at least one good idea. Unfortunately, that is all they have. Ron Paul will go after the Pentagon squanderers in chief, Perry is realistic about the borders, Romney used to be realistic about healthcare, Bachmann wants to take apart the IRS, Palin's best is she seems to know she has no chance at anything and just wants to harvest the suckerbucks from the Tea Party. The rest are too obscure to matter.
Cleareye, you hit the nail on the head. Here we are, stuck with a stumbling bumbling POTUS who is clearly not good at his job. And yet when we search for a viable alternative, all we see is...... Nobody. The Dems won't primary thier own sitting President, and The Republicans offer us nothing sane.
What's a poor voter to do?
Hey Feisty! Don't know what you said but I totally agree! lol
Sarah Palin's opinion on anything is irrelavant. She's a quitter, she thrives on publicity and she hasn't got the stamina or brains to run for anything, much less the presidency.
I wish all you people who keep talking about her had a memory.
"irrelevant" :-)
Feisty must be on the rag today
I've discovered being "collapsed" isn't all bad! :)
You see ... I did noting but point out a contradiction, and yet I'm collapsed.
She is calling for someone wanting to "take on tough challenges" and "not run away" ... yet that is exactly what SHE did. Therefore, not a viable candidate for the presidency.
There was NO violation of Newsvine rules in my post.
Which brings me to another point ... or suggestion ... that Newsvine institute a "down arrow" along with the "up arrow". Comments such as mine, and many others, don't deserve to be collapsed. There is nothing wrong with them other than the fact that some people disagree. Therefore, the institution of a "down arrow" to use for disagreement would greatly reduce collapsed remarks AND be a much better representation of opinion.
Additionally, collapsing remarks could be left for the ones that truly break the rules.
No matter what side of an issue you argue, I'm hoping enough people agree that Newsvine will consider it.
the woman is an idiot ... she has no concept of history, geography, current events or the english language ..... would venture to guess she ranks on the bottom of the bell curve
Feisty will not appreciate being called an idiot. She is mad as hell today for some reason. probably didn't get laid over the long weekend..
If this is the best this county has to offer then we are all in trouble. Not one politican or want to be has handed out a meaningful item to look at or read to see if they are any different from what we already have. So far the republicans scare me....their ideas are to strick and offer no compermise at all...and I for one do not trust them to know what the real general public wants..so far every poll has been against them..yet they continue on , caring less about the citizens of this country and much more about their wealthy benefactors.
Man! give me a break.......
What planet have you Libs been living on.
Or is it that your just dogmatic.
You Libs should know that Palin will not take your Gov cks.
If I was her, I would make sure you deserve your welfare.
Judging from some of you imbeciles doing these posting, looks like your on mental disablity.
I've always said, you should have to be tested in order to vote.
The country is more important then the DMV.......
Palin/2012 ~ Romney as her VP...
and Rocko191, you should be first in line for your "testing"!!!
You Palin bashers are so passe' it's laughable.
Get over it punks, she won big time and you fools lost big time
You want Palin/Romney and you think the rest of us are mentally challenged? That is the funniest thing I have heard all day.
McCain lost just because she was on the tickets, so you think lets make her President. I am sure the independents are going for that.
americans first ... Palin/ Romney sounds to good to be true .. something for everyone to dislike
I know.. I know - the truth hurts.. lol
Like I said - the graveyard shift has shown up for duty!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL Comment collapsed by the community
Brace yourselves folks...
The night shift of the phony constitutional loving collapse cowards are punching in...
I still can't comprehend WHY they feel the necessity to supress those who disagree...
Well, come to think about it - they rule by fear - so maybe I can! ;o)
On the upside, the more they collapse - the higher the vote totals go... then again they are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier!
It's Labor Day Feisty. People who work hard for a living are off work, and have a little time to spend on the computer. It's only natural to see people whose viewpoints are a little more conservative than those on here in the middle of the day.
Yeah...
YOUR proven record of reform is evident ... you Republicans "reformed" Bill Clinton's economic programs and policies which had balanced the federal budget and look where it led us.
I believe we need people willing and able to do the job of legislating - unlike our House of Representatives who can NOT do the job because of some pledge they made to Grover Norquist [WHO???] instead.
With congressmen and Senators who actually WORK at the job, President Obama's reforms could be implimented and change for the better would occur instead of being obstructed. What good is reform if Congress doesn't allow it?
Rhetoric Sarah, rhetoric only.
What makes you think that you or your political party would benefit from that? No idiots on your side of the river eh?
Yeah...
YOUR proven record of reform is evident ... you Republicans "reformed" Bill Clinton's economic programs and policies which had balanced the federal budget and look where it led us.
I believe we need people willing and able to do the job of legislating - unlike our House of Representatives who can NOT do the job because of some pledge they made to Grover Norquist [WHO???] instead.
With congressmen and Senators who actually WORK at the job, President Obama's reforms could be implimented and change for the better would occur instead of being obstructed. What good is reform if Congress doesn't allow it?
Rhetoric Sarah, rhetoric only.
Not as stupid as yo uthink
Too bad we didn't get Clinton back for four more years, but you liberals wanted "hope and change" instead.
Rick,
Are you saying that the Republican party would have been more cooperative with Hilary? That they would have worked to correct our tax paws to the benefit of the economy? They would have bucked Rove and the Koch Bros to work with a Democrat president and not do all they could to obstruct and delay in their never ending quest to regain the power they lost when the American people saw what they really had in mind with the "Contract on America"? Doubtful at best, horse crap in reality.
Correct Rick: Change from the "reforms" you Republicans instituted 2001-2009; change back to the fiscally responsible policies we enjoyed under Clinton's administration. Given the situation, the correct move was made and Obama was elected. No one anticipated that you teanuts would purposely harm the Untited States by the obstructionism we've witnessed in Congress; just have to flex your muscles and stick out your chests don't you, even when harmful to my country. Sad! Particularly considering that you are doing this only because you are upset that Obama is President. Worse than sad, it is totally assinine and such behavior proves that teanuts and wingnuts DO NOT BELONG IN WASHINGTON D.C.!
Voters will remember in November of next year, I'm certain.
And thank you vw... I believe the vast majority of us citizens do get it as you've explained and that these marginal imbiciles will be ousted if we can only hold on another year.
I disagree with vwterry. I loved Hilary, her talk of reinstituting tariffs was EXACTLY the kind of thing our Country needs. And yes, she knew how to get things done. She could be tough as nails. Obama is unable to. Hilary had strong beliefs that she could justify. Obama? Can you really say he has strong beliefs about what it is he wants to accomplish? I feel he does not. He intimidates nobody, he is routinely laughed off by the Republicans. Can you remember any other POTUS from either party who controlled the Senate, but was unable to get things done? Even Carter was more effective. Obama lacks the willpower and the fortitude. He's just not determined enough to get down and dirty to get things done. Hilary is.
Rick ...your right the majority of we the people wanted Hope and Change .. the problem was the GOP wanted neither McConell and Boehner did all that was legal to ensure there was no Hope or Change ... what we need now is a dem super majority in both houses so america can get back to work and rebuild our country into the super power it was before GWB
Independent Jim, The Democrats control The Presidency and The Senate. Yet they claim the Republicans are stopping them from getting anything done. That's pretty weak, don't you think? Bush had a Dem Senate and a Dem house, but was able to accomplish all those things everybody is still blaming him for. Just face it, Obama's a terrible President who is either unwilling or unable to do his job well.
Hillary clearlywould have been a better president - but might not have gotten past McCain.
Please Run, Sarah, for the goodness of political theater, please give me this
Yea run Sarah run. Away. Just like you did from the Alaska governorship. One stupid phony broad.
The more you see of her the less you want to see of her. I got news for the media, she has no plans and no one cares if she runs - because she won't. She would be totally embarrased and end up last in the "wacky pack" right behind Huntsman.
Just watched "Billionaires tea party" on link tv. These sheep are soooo duped it is UNBELIEVABLE! Koch bros. have got the wool pulled over their eyes big time. How can people be this stupid. Only in america I guess.
Typical shot of Palin. With her mouth wide open - not saying anything of value. She should go back to doing what she does best - shooting helpless animals out in the wild....
... or taking a bow for pardoning a turkey while they are slaughtered on an assembly line behind her.
Sarah says: "We are telling Washington that my kid is not your ATM" --- what she meant: "You need to go to the ATM and send money to my family - no good reason, just because we're celebrities."
People actually think this woman could be President? Since McCain first brought her in out of the wilds I have never even been close to understanding anything she has said. I don't think I like her because she works for Fox. The real problem I have with her though, is; I do not have any idea what the hell she is attempting to tell when she speaks. The woman talks absent to any relative meaning. ?????????????
She is scamming, that's all. Short on truth, short on plans, and obviously she has an expensive house payment. She is trailer park trash that has found a way to scam and scam again. She is irrelevant!
No doubt -- Enough from the self-promotional peanut gallery. What has Palin done to make reporters give her the time of day? Has she formed an exploratory committee, hired campaign staff, held meetings with campaign donors, what?
The media is just as self-promotional as some of the right-wingers, looking for ratings. Let me guess, you'll give Giuliani another 15 minutes of fame on the 10-year anniversary of 9-11. Maybe he'll have pizza with Trump and you can report on that too. Enough!
Those who aren't serious, who aren't willing to put skin in the game and actually run, why are they being given the spot light for influence? The lack of substance is bad enough. Palin needs to try some of that fancy pageant walking and pack it back home.
Somebody just bend her over already, and give her what she really wants. Attention, and the big schlong!!! Come on Todd, make her squeal, and shut the hell up!!!
Bible Spice asked the first dud he we wanted soup or sex...
Todd promptly replied: I'll take the soup! ;o)
No wedding ring in the photo?
Oh, OH, where's the wedding ring?
And her face in the pic does look like she's taking in the rear, dogie style, and loving every inch. You Bechta!!!
At least he didn't ask for flour.
I want to do what Cypher said. Crazy chicks are usually good in the sack, plus.... She's a total MILF!
(President? Naw. President of my King Size Bed maybe.)
The bitch could croak and wouldn't be missed. She is a complete babbling fool.
So much gobbly gook. So few muzzles.
If it weren't for FOX News, Rush Limburger, Glenn Beck, Bachmann, Palin, Perry and the rest of the insane idiots, we might actually find a Conservative somewhere. As it is, they are an endangered species.
Eisenhower was the last of the Smart conservative Presidents. He was the first one I was old enough to vote for.
Why do I care? Because without Conservatives, we don't have Liberals. Obama as president proves that.
What entertainment! I wonder if Obama himself pays her to say this ...stuff.
This is hilarious!
Wait a minute, First Read. This is the same Palin story as yesterday...do we really need an update of the same fluffy nonsense? But I guess a little filler on Labor Day is in order.
The republicans NEED to keep wasting their time, WE need their Jokes, and the bigger the nut they chose the bigger their chance of losing. [unless they steal again?]
They are already attempting to steal the election with voter requirements to make it tough for the poor people, who they seem to want to exterminate, to vote
The republicans want to exterminate the poor by giving them a chance to rise above poverty. The democrats want to do every thing they can to keep them down so they will have a voter base.
Please give me examples of how Republicans have formulated any sound plans to help poor "rise above poverty." Cutting welfare doesn't count.
I am actually in favor of having to show some ID at the polls. You have to show ID to buy alchohol or drive a car..... And voting is Waaaaaaaayyyyyy more important. I don't think it's so crazy to check ID's before allowing someone to help select the next Leader of The Free World. Or even a small town dog catcher. What's the big deal? You know years ahead of time when the election is, and by law you are required to carry ID anyways in most states (usually under the vagrancy laws, if you're looking it up). I'm not exactly inspired by confidence with some of the machinery and software they use in some places, I suspect it's something a good software engineer or hacker could manipulate. But ID? Absolutely.
Ms. Sara Quitter Pailin, Please go away.
MSNBC, Please do the right thing and stop covering her nonsense. We need constructive comments to get our country working again. We are all in this together and need to stop "railing" against our President.
Still doan see no wedding ring on her hand.
Give her my number! After she'll be in a waaaaayyyy better mood!
Ever notice the "angriest" right-wingers haven't one single valid suggestion on how to fix all the problems they have caused this country?
And every last one of them forget who has been running this country for the last 42 years.
Anybody seen a fair, impartial court in this country lately? The righties screwed that up, too.
Really not much on politics, are you?
I guess a fair, impartial court is one that agrees with your liberal slant.
It has been the democrats that have caused all the problems. The sub prime crisis, Medicare which we can no longer fund, the massive welfare system we can no longer fund, CRP which is one of the biggest and most useless subsidies in existence and a whole list of others.
Every other time in the history of the United States, in war time we raised taxes. This time bush gave tax cuts along with wars and created this monster of a debt.
You keep pretending that it was the Democrats that caused the problems. Wars and tax cuts caused the problem and the republicans want to convince us that the poor are the ones who caused all the problems and the debt. The republicans actually think the rich need more tax cuts and have not problem one borrowing money to pay for them.
The entire bush presidency, bush and the republicans were borrowing and spending like drunken teenagers but suddenly we are to believe the republicans are really fiscal conservatives. See, cut spending, cut spending, just don't ask us to raise taxes on the richest.
For the love of America Obama 2012
Speaking of fair impartial courts.... Obama's Aunt, fled a federal order of deportation, fled to Boston, got welfare, medical and housing. Illegal Immigrants are not entitled by law to recieve those benefits. If a person with a Federal Arrest warrant can do it, how hard can they be checking? People who say Illegals aren't sucking our tax dollars are kidding themselves. There is a HUGE waiting list for public housing in Boston. There are many American Citizens on the waiting list. Moving right along, how did a welfare queen like Zutuni know to call a high priced Immigration Lawyer from Cleveland? How did she pay for it? Next, the penalties for obtaining welfare, medical and housing you are NOT LEGALLY ENTITLED TO is..... You get kicked out, and you lose your benefits. You also are forbidden from receiving those benefits in the future. AND you have to pay it back. Yet NONE of those things happened to Zitouni. How come that is? Then she has the BALLS to go on national television and declare we "owe her". This is why we need to enforce our Immigration laws, so we can choose NOT to have dirtbags like her here. So... now we have his Illegal Immigrant drunk driving uncle. Another jerk, who pulls the old "do you know who I am?" act on the cops when he is caught. And he has an actual state issued Driving Liscence, which he obtained using a federally issued SS#... Whose? His? And he has the same lawyer, who is flying in from Cleveland at SOMEBODY's expense (maybe ours?) to represent him. What do you think is going to happen next? I'm not saying this to take sides. I am simply pointing out that this is not a strictly conservative problem. It is a problem when Justice always favors the wealthy, from both political parties.
"Run, Sarah, run" Yup, Americans truly are the dumbest people in the world. All the free information and freedom to choose they enjoy and they can't even see through the obvious negative agenda of the right wing nuts.
@Leroy -- You are so correct!!! Americans did prove they were the dumbest people in the world by electing obama for anything. Election Day 2012 -- The End of an Error.
He meant by letting W have the oval office ... TWICE!!!!!!! omg!
I would say to your moniker -- oh yes you are. I knew what he meant. ROFLMAO!!!!!
Well, check out 24.4 below. I left a link to an article YOU should read....
Bwahahahaha!
Watch out Ben. These First Read regulars can be quite vicious and vitriolic if you happen not to share their political perspective.
Don't give them your address or phone number.
Again, I'd say to your moniker -- oh yes you are. There is no link to what you have posted on 24.4. ROFLMAO -- don't even know how to post a link!!!!
What? YOU don't even know how to access a website from the printed address? LMFAO = tech wizard!
Okay, did you read the title of the article? Gee! I wonder what that title could mean.
OH!!! Read this conversation link and it is crystal clear what the title means..... too funny! HA
p.s.
GREAT reflection James Lee --- typical!
Actually BEN, you don’t even know why the link can’t be
posted. It has to do with a user’s status.
Check out the Home page because it will tell you if you
are quick enough to figure it out.
Dennis -- She has been a member since 11/2009, so I think she is past the probation period. I'm not the one who said it was a "link."
Ben,
You still don’t know about an issue that has been a
problem on Newsvine for a long time.
Maybe you will figure it out when it happens to you …
good luck.
Thanks Dennis for the advice on getting the links to post.
But if they are too ignorant to be able to follow the information to a website, I don't know if making it simple for them would be the thing to do - might not be able to read and understand it anyway.
I still appreciate your efforts; only wish everyone had your understanding of events and occurances and the real reasons things happen as they do (instead of parroting plank talking points and spin.) Alas!
I don't listen to a word she says. All her conservative nonsense and she can't keep Bristol's legs closed. How, then, will she be able to control a nation, who, like her daughter, can think for themselves and willfully act against her?
A very cruel statement. I assume you have no family, relatives or friends that have found themselves in the same situations. You should be ashamed.
BTW -- You may not listen but you sure do read what she says or else you wouldn't be commenting.
And the Religious Right will continue to want to preach abstinence only in schools, like that has gotten anybody very far.
Ben, you'd be suprised how many people here post without actually reading the article, and without taking the time to read previous posts. I see it all the time.
"...and thank goodness we don't have any one single leader."
How very ironic, a leaderless mob is the 'party' so they replace a leader with a pinky-swear to obstruct ALL legislation unless their leaderless mob has authored it.
I am so tired of a party that just says no, to everything, just because they can.
Same drivel... no answers. She sounds like my 2nd grade teacher berating the class. What a bimbo. If this is the best the gop can muster, along with buchannan, perry ( no new texans ), etc. they are doomed.
In a FOX News poll last Friday:
70% + of Republicans did not want Palin to run...
65% of Tea Partiers did not want Palin to run....
Without any scientific data - I'm sure 100% of Liberals would love to have Palin run!
b dune,
Here is a link to the poll in case there are those on here who don't believe you: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/01/fox-news-poll-perry-overtakes-romney-as-top-gop-2012-pick-most-say-palin-should-1905707772/
Sarah Palin is an idiot and I cannot fathom what it is that the Tea Party crowd sees in her. She has milked this thing to the point of going from obscurity to being a multi-millionaire because of the stupidity of the morons who buy her books and movies. It is quite interesting that these folks do not seem to get how they are being scammed by this new wave grifter. Between her and Michelle Bachmann it is hard to determine which one of them is least qualified to be president, or even the local dog catcher. To try and catalogue Palin's insane blathering since 2008 would be a monumental task, not to mention a waster of paper. Let's hope she runs and further splinters the GOP field. So many idiots, so many choices. Like the rest of the GOP fiend, she decries government involvement in our lives, yet continues to push for the most invasive of processes in people's lives. She is also involved with far right Christian groups that openly advocate overthrowing our democratic republic and replacing it with a Christian theocracy. As far as I am concerned, people like Perry, Palin and Bachmann, who believe our government should be based upon a literal reading of the bible and the Ten Commandments, are traitors and are preaching sedition. Palin was prayed over by a Kenyan minister who is part of this far-right cabal to take over our government who asked God to protect her from witchcraft. Are you kidding me?
First, I would love to be an idiot if it meant I could be a multi-millionaire. She has you reading this article and wasting your time commenting on it now doesn't she. Hmmm, who's the idiot.
Please name the far right Christian groups that advocate overthrowing our democratic republic and please cite links or examples.. I'd ask you to back up your other statements, but the biggest liar in the world couldn't do that.
So that's how you define intelligence and stupidity, Ben, by how much money someone earns? It's not that simple, my friend. Stu, in many cases, the fact that Palin is an idiot IS what the tps like about her, they can relate to her!
Where did I say that was my definition of anything. I was just making an observation.
See Ben? If they knew where you lived, there would be a pitchfork laden mob within minutes surrounding your home, begging you to come out.
Violence is the rightie solution to those who disagree with them, James, not the leftie one. Remember the "second amendment remedies?" Same old rightie bull@!$%# of accusing the left of the things that THEY do. That's the childish rightie response to every charge from the left- "no I'm not, YOU are."
Ben
"first I would love to be an idiot if it meant I could be a millionaire".......don't sell yourself so short there Ben....heck - I don't think you are a milliionaire - but you have already achieved your other goal in life....
USA is full of lucky, no talent otherwise useless people who happened upon money, it doesn't make them better or smarter than anyone else!
You go girl! You and Bachmann for Pres and VP. That should f_ck this nation up more than Bush II. After a year they will be scratching each other's eyes out. I'd vote for them just for a good laugh for 4 years.
Hey Sarah? Where' your wedding ring?
Thomas, I figure it must have slipped off her finger while she was reading her "teleprompter" palm.
Here are some interesting questions that I can't wait for the answers:
The story goes on to say the following:
Great article from Michael Medved and the reason the looney left is scared and crapping in their pants. Their comedic attempts on here are just that -- jokes.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/27/census-data-shows-people-are-moving-from-blue-to-red-states.html
I understand why Karl Rove is crying.... Poor fat bustard (he sought he had plan how to keep Republicans for years in power). Didn't think about the mutation in to the cult, didn't you Karl? And they needed to screw it up is Palin.
Ben, just checked my pants, ain't no crap there. Sorry. And, as "comedic" as us "looney lefties" might be, try as we might we can't come anywhere near the level of comedy coming from the mouths of people on your side who actually want to run this country.
Just care to answer the questions??? Still waiting. (crickets).
Hey, Ben;
Just care to read this???
Why Liberals Are More Intelligent
Than Conservatives | Psychology Today
www.psychologytoday.com
Again, I'd say to your moniker -- oh yes you are. There is no link to what you have posted. ROFLMAO -- don't even know how to post a link!!!!
Ben - having a hard time with an internet address? ROFLMAO - you don't even know how to enter an internet address! Is your last name Dover?
Forgot I was dealing with a teanut... sorry
Let me explain:
Go to the top of your web page where the IP address is - hint: it will begin with "http"
click on it and it will become highlighted; type in: www.psychologytoday.com
then hit enter. this will take you to the Psychology Today magazine website - you know - the one you could not find a link to unless someone enters it for you...
Once on that page, use their search box to find the article: WHY LIBERALS ARE MORE INTELLIGENT THAN CONSERVATIVES
Click enter and the article will magically appear for you. WOW! Aint technology grand?
Do you think you can follow these simple instructions? If you have trouble = which would not surprise any of us - just come back here and ask.
DUH!
@johnluci -- Oh I know how to enter an internet address but I am not the one to claim that I had posted a "link."
A definition:
Definition: A link, or hyperlink, refers to a piece of specially coded text that users can click on to navigate to the webpage or element of a webpage associated with that link's code.
Developers can distinguish plain text from a link by making the link text bold, underlined, or a different color.
@unture moniker -- just like a left wing nut loon who never takes responsibility for making a mistake and attack another's intelligence.
Well then, what is your gripe ben?????
Are you playing games? Are you a toll getting paid by RNC to attack and cause trouble for Democrats? What is the story Ben?
Surely you would not just be uspset that some of us got after your girlfriend would you? You MUST have a crush on Sarah... Hope you don't have immoral thoughts about her = Perry wouldn't like that and would probably have to pray about it.
Sure Ben: Turns out you and Medved should have waited longer.
People / populations follow jobs. Corporations are not moving to Texas at an accelerated rate. The reason why Texas is absorbing so many jobs is not necessarily due to its attractive job policies. The reason people are moving there is due to the giant increase in one inductrial jobs segment:
OIL AND GAS.
If you can manage to find the time to check N. Dakota's unemployment rate you will find it pretty low right now too,...in fact,...lower than Texas's. N.Dakota is also an oil-rich state that, like Texas, has benefited from a recent advances in petroleum exploration and production called directional drilling. Secondary recovery techniques have also come along.
In 1986 Texas wasn't crowing too much about its jobless rate. Neither was Michael Medved. Texas was in a Depression/Recession because the price of oil went from $28.50 / barrel down to about $6.00 / barrel,....nearly overnight. People in Houston were abandoning their homes, businesses failed, and people migrated BACK to the Midwest they left.
I know.
I was one of them.
I was an oilfield geologist in Dallas, Texas until just before the crash.
Why don't you and Michael Medved like to talk about THIS graph?
http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/michigan/
You can toggle back and forth between Texas and Michigan to contrast data easier. Some observations about this data:
http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/michigan/
Conservative policies didn't cause these people to move from the Midwest,...... oil did. Texas and Michigan seem to be on the opposite ends of the prosperity see-saw.
Also, Texas had better get to work making the hard choices of diversification. God isn't making any more oil and gas,....trust me. The new technology only means that oil produced in the United States will be put on a tanker bound for Beijing via. Shanghai at a faster rate. In 10 years,...no more oil.
Then what? Texas will need something else.
Also, Detroit is going to work designing cars with radically better fuel mileage, or electric drive/hybrids. In 10-15 years many cars will be routinely getting 50-60 m.p.g. Far less consumption. Far more mass transit, wind turbines, etc....
I know. I work for Chrysler now.
BTW: Michigan is forecast to add some 96,000 jobs this year, and about the same for next year. People come with the jobs, not jobs with the people as you are implying.
All the cherry-picked facts in the world can't save your stolen premises or Michael Medved's.
stupid
You should consider the source. Do you agree with this postulation:
black women are less physically attractive than other women.
Satoshi Kanazawa, the very liberal evolutionary psychologist of the London School of Economics who wrote the article you are posting also put that out there in another one of his mental masturbation "blogs".
Take it with a grain of salt, just don't take it seriously.
GOP
Talk about cherry picked facts. Care to correlate the exodus from Michigan in your info? It's amazing the lengths the sycophants of the left will go to in an attempt to discredit anything right-of-center.
Sooooooo...they are simply moving there at a decelerated rate? Or are you saying not at all? And to make such a statement such as implying that oil industry jobs don't count because Perry had nothing to do with them.....well, i have but one point....CALI isn't sharing in that sector's job growth.
hello Doug.
When the GOP decides to float a candidate I can vote for, I'll stop "discrediting" the GOP.
John Huntsman is an excellent example: moderate, highly intelligent, with lots of experience, both politically and diplomatically. I would actually give voting for him very, very serious consideration indeed, but the reality is that the GOP is so screwed up with extremism and corproate sponsorship and de-facto bribe-taking that it is imposssible for someone like Huntsman to get the nomination.
And until he does, the GOP is relegated to kooksville, in my opinion.
I thought I did.
Nope, you're right. My bad. Here are the types of industries moving from California to Texas.
Texas is stealing all of California's burger-flipping jobs. Congratulations.
Ahem,....Doug,...you are making my point FOR me. Cali ain't got the oil.
so "extremism and corporate sponsorship and de facto bribe-taking" turn you off? My guess is you will be voting libertarian or staying home.
Explain to me how Romney fits your GOP mold? And Obama doesn't
This should be fun. I anxiously await your response.
As_stupid_as_you_think
Here is a link to an article you may want to read.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/psyched/200809/conservatives-are-dumber-and-smarter-liberals
GOP
Cali does have the oil. I know you don't believe in the theory of abiotic oil. Stop being a flat-earther! The theory has been proven in the lab. I thought you folks liked science.
The In-and_Out Burger line was cute....but that's all the value it had.
Businesses and citizens have left and continue to leave California. Decades of liberal loonery have left them in the same shape as Michigan. Busted and no boot straps left. The oil industry is one example.
You know who appreciates Texas' job growth? Gavin Newsom......you know him?
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/21/local/la-me-cap-texas-20110421
@GOPisextinct:
Thank you for your response. I almost don't know where to begin, but I'll try. The boom as you call it in the oil industry just recently occurred when new techniques were discovered in fracking shale to find more proven reserves. You see I too worked for a long time in the oil and natural gas industry with the Columbia Gas System -- Columbia Gulf Transmission was headquartered in Houston. So, if you were a geologist, you know new reserves are being discovered all the time. Seismology is improving all the time. Right now Texas has enough proven reserves to last it probably through this century. Oh, BTW, directional drilling is for deep drilling -- especially offshore -- to eliminate multiple well sites in tapping into the reserves in order to extract ALL of the reserves.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/28/business/energy-environment/28shale.html?pagewanted=all
Of course people come to where there are jobs, where the state government creates a business friendly environment where the economic backbone of this country can thrive. No companies, no jobs. Your premise on corporations not coming to Texas is also wrong. Please see the link showing where high tech and bio-pharma companies are coming to Texas as well. If the state wasn't run well, they wouldn't be coming. This is not just coincidence. Texas is run by the right people. Diversification is occurring. Just over 10 percent of this nation's Fortune 500 companies are headquartered in Texas
http://www.texaswideopenforbusiness.com/news/Three-New-Companies-Expand-into-Austin.html
Texas has had steady employment increases since 1990 -- more than 3.2 million jobs added.
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST480000&fdim_y=seasonality:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=texas+unemployment+rate#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=employed&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=state&idim=state:ST480000&ifdim=state&hl=en&dl=en
Unemployment rate has stayed between -- with seasonal fluctuations -- between 6.5 and the current 8.4 percent. Not bad for one of the highest illegal alien populated states in the country.
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST480000&fdim_y=seasonality:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=texas+unemployment+rate#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=state&idim=state:ST480000&ifdim=state&hl=en&dl=en
If you look here, you will see your Michigan claim doesn't hold water either.
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST480000&fdim_y=seasonality:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=texas+unemployment+rate#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=state&idim=state:ST480000:ST260000&ifdim=state&hl=en&dl=en
Your forecasts for the auto industry and Michigan are based on what? Wind and solar power can not even come close to generating the electricity for hybrids -- especially on long trips. So, you are looking at hydro or nuclear. Also, your statement about oil production from here just going to China is unfounded and baseless. You are fear mongering and grasping at straws.
Oh, about NAFTA. All I'll say is this quote from President Clinton: Clinton while signing the NAFTA bill stated: "...NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."
Nice try in answering the questions, though, just not factual or practical.
And a great many of us feel that a low paying job is better than no job at all.
And another thing. Clinton had nothing to do with the dot com boom which kept employment up and provided him with a surplus budget yet you liberals are really happy to give him credit for it.
You are so right. Anything positive that occurred during Clinton's terms were just lucky coincidences since he did nothing to improve the economy or create jobs.
The truth is that, the American public, being smart as they are, KNEW back then that George W. was going to be President, consequently they did everything in their power to create those jobs Clinton claimed as his, and then they proceeded to save millions upon millions and gave them to the Government in order to create a surplus.
Now that's what I call seeing into the future and doing something about it. Typical of a Republican populace. Of course when Bush took, excuse me, was GIVEN the office of the President he used that surplus to create even more jobs, protect the citizenry from the malfeasance of banks and Wall Street, his friends, and then went on and got into two unfunded wars just to create more jobs in the defense industry.
By the time he left office Bush had created about ten million jobs, brought democracy and freedom to Irak and Afghanistan and left a surplus which Obama just can't figure out how to spend.
Now, that bridge in Brooklyn is still for sale. I know you would love to buy it.
Ben your first post here before all the back and forth leaves out a great deal about reapportionment and how it is done. The term "gerrymandering" comes to mind. There was a great episode of "How The States got their shapes" that went into it in great detail. It really is a complicated and extremely corrupt process. Population movement is population movement, mostly driven by economics, but the way they draw up the voting districts..... Well, the more you know about it the more angry you are likely to become. You only have to look at the shapes of the districts to know that there's some hanky panky involved. And BOTH parties do it.
Sorry, Mr. President, the ventriloquist's dummy is "railing" at you again.