"We must renew our commitment to taking the fight to the enemy wherever they are, before they strike at home"

Sounds like W speaking!..........

Slick Rick was invited to speak, as the Gov of the host state....which was before he announced his run for the Presidency!

Perry's foreing policy expecience goes something like: I know a little bit about Mexico, but I don't give a damn about the rest of the world. France, Russia, Germany, Japan, China, and Afghanistan...I couldn't find them on a map.

He's simply a moron. Perry, when you take the fight to them before they hit home is called military adventurism that you do not believe in...........here's Dick Cheney reincarnate.

"We must renew our commitment to taking the fight to the enemy wherever they are, before they strike at home. I do not believe that America should fall subject to a foreign policy of military adventurism,"

LoLoLoL

Clear as Texas black clay soil. And every bit as dense.

http://urbanext.illinois.edu/soil/st_soils/tx_soil.htm

Another Republican advocating military adventurism while saying we shouldn't engage in military adventurism. Another flip flopping conservative ready to get us in trouble with our allies again. Bush and Perry are twins. They even talk alike. Want four more years of Bush? Elect Perry as our next president and watch our demise.

Ron Indiana

Perry's foreing policy expecience goes something like: I know a little bit about Mexico, but I don't give a damn about the rest of the world. France, Russia, Germany, Japan, China, and Afghanistan...I couldn't find them on a map.

Ron, Neighbor

It's also juxtaposing his dumb a$$ in a Photo -op to cntast what he did at age 22 and the President didn't do at 22.

One thing for sure President Obama didn't flunk college.

Trick Rick and fool behind his Radical Evangelical Army bunch of bible-thumping crooks and thieves.

Good Afternoon Beverly, my neighbor from the north. Somehow Perry makes stupid look normal. Who would ever believe that this is what our country is becoming.

Good to see you in there fighting the good fight. Bev.

TEXAS Gov. Rick Perry:

"We must renew our commitment to taking the fight to the enemy wherever they are, before they strike at home"

You folks in Oklahoma should be afraid, very very afraid. Remember, people in Texas consider themselves to be in a whole other country.

You're correct dirp101...

but not just the folks in Oklahoma.....but folks in Louisiana (love those casinos), and New Mexico..I can only assume that Mexico the Country will be safe...since Slick Rick wants to secede.

Maybe secede to become, again, a part of Mexico or Slick Rick will be outflanked on 4 sides, not just 3!

Brianb ~

Leave me out of your rant. I quoted the whole thing. It's internally inconsistent. In effect it says:

I'll warmonger if I wanna, and not if I don't.

In short, nothing much seems to have changed since about 1961.

Rick Perry: " I don't just want to be 'Commander in Chief' I want to be the glorious warmongering, bringer of death and destruction to all who oppose God's will as I understand it to be"

You're on a roll Ricky, keep this up and we'll have you in the 'Terrorists of the World' hall of fame long before you get even remotely close to the White House.

A great site if you're a Ron Paul supporter, or to refer your Socialist friends to... http://www.dailypaul.com/

Ron, I think its refreshing to have someone that understands the only thing savages respect is that sort of verbiage.

hey Ricky, that's the game plan you lying buddy from Crawford tried to play, do ya all see how dang well that played out? Of course at the same time he was all fired up and chargin' after that damn Saddam who ws sure as heck gonna nuke us and such like he pretty much dropped the ball altogether on Afghanistan.

Is that the sort of foreign policy we're talkin' 'bout here pardner?

Read my lips Rick: NO NEW TEXANS! I repeat, NO NEW TEXANS!

The Bush Doctrine -- Preemptive, unilateral strike (instead of clear and present danger). But it's not illegal, cuz it's spreadin' democracy, right? Riiight. Some folks never learn. Look at the Arab Spring, in which dictators and despots like Saddam are being ousted without Super Power initiation. In fact, Super Power intervention provides resentment and becomes a recruiting tool for more terrorism when not invited in.

What we need to do is close some of the military bases overseas, especially in first-world or oil-rich countries. We need to stop spending so much of our GDP to provide military for these countries who can afford to do so themselves. The fall of empires is often due to over-extension.

This is one of the many problems with the current GOP/TP presidential field--none have foreign policy understanding except maybe Huntsman. Until one of the GOP/TP candidates talks about ending the damn wars the rest of us really don't give a sh!t what they think.

"We must renew our commitment to taking the fight to the enemy wherever they are." Is he talking about Iraq again or is it Iran this time?

Perry slammed George W. Bush's military management and policies pretty hard with these statements.

A True Patriot would think and listen before he speaks. A True Patriot would know that Ron Paul advocates ending the damn wars. So until the uniformed speaks without lies and inserting foot in mouth, no one give a sh!t what he/she says.

Of course True Patriots are in favor of killing innocent people rather than waterboarding or depriving sleep from a few terrorists and starting undeclared wars by bombing Libya, Somalia, Yemen, etc. The True Patriot moniker for you is an oxymoron.

Note to Rick Perry

Been there, done that.

Still there, still doing that.

It didn't work.

Note to little Bob (numbers)

I explained this to you last week Bob. Nobody from Iraq flew a plane into a building in downtown Manhattan. Nobody from Afghanistan flew a building into downtown Manhattan. The Taliban didn't attack America. NOOOOOBODY was hiding in Afghanistan. While we tromped around Afghanistan learning what the British and the Russians already knew, the Afghans are the original guerrilla fighters from Hell, the real perpetrators were laughing their asses off and watching themselves on TV in Pakistan.

So, Rick is going to take it to the enemy. In your example Bob that would be our allies Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Osama and most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudis. Pakistan is where the planners were hiding out most of the time Americans were dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.

There must be something in the water in Texas that kills the brain cells. First Bush II and now Perry singing the same tired old song.

Jingoistic verbiage is easy. An actual foreign policy is a bit more complicated.

America held hostage, day 241.

Obama/Biden 2012 Leave the Texans in Texas

mitchj,

"say whatever you want, this man will not bow to a king."

from what I hear though, he gets on his knees for a variety of things ... hehehe ....

Fed Up-2683606,

LOL.... this latest spurge of idiocy from Perry doesn't have anyone "running scared". And liberals are laughing their @sses off at most everything he says.

This next-gen GOPTard sealed his own fate when he declared Social Security a "ponzi scheme".

I've lived in NY all my life (except for a brief stint in Stafford Texas before Perry screwed that state up), and we all saw what recently happened the last time someone tried to touch part of the safety net. NY23 has been a deep deep deep red district most of my life. Its pretty blue now. Not even an off-shade of purple. But really blue.

If Perry continues with this idiocy that keeps falling out of his yap, he'll turn most of the country blue LONG before November, 2012 LOL

I can't believe that the right is completely ignoring what Huntsman is doing. If you pay attention, hes removed himself from the realm of the crazies, and looks to be running pretty moderate. Its a bit tough to call just yet, but it seems he might be setting up to run as an independent. And if he does, well, just use your imagination....

It would be a pretty smart move though. Even though he won't stand a chance in 2012, he'd be in a great position for 2016.

Oh, and people aren't buying that "don't tax the job creators" bullsh!t anymore. And 19 different polls can't all be wrong:

http://www.capitalgainsandgames.com/blog/bruce-bartlett/2292/americans-support-higher-taxes-really

Rich people may leave a "state" when their taxes are raised. But they ain't leavin' the country. Exchange rates alone would cost them MUCH more than just paying the higher tax rate.

Ben, Which is why the burden of protecting this country with a all volunteer military has been a Conservative based force. I enlisted during the wind down of Vietnam served for 10 years active duty and 6 years active ready reserves! The liberals I knew when the draft was in wanted nothing but out of the service, I personally reported 2 of them for court martials and dishonorable discharges. As I have said before the other went AWOL in the Philippines. I was recalled as a technical assist during the first gulf war and as a senior noncom E-8 I assisted in the deployment of several hundred thousand Destructors deployed in the desert behind Saddam's front line. For the laymen a destructor is a Mk 82 500lbs bomb body equipped with a variety of detonation devices. The most popular was a magnetic click boom Detonator. On Sept 11 2001 I observed what I believe is a true Identity indicator Ben, and that was as soon as the event became clear ALL but the far far left fringe knew they had to jump hard onto the patriotic band wagon or face a us population that would reject them outright. As the days loomed further and further from the event they went further and further into the old left anti war position. And here we are today, back to about the same place we were before that event. While in country (Saudi and Kuwait) I had a chance to assist in some "combatants" Not regular Iraqi soldiers or red guard. These were imports from several groups. One of my Specialists was blowing off some steam after a long hot sandy day and he said......I would love to take one of these liberals, put them in a room with one of these guys and cut the zipties. One of my other Spec's replied Your going to clean up the pee and poop not me! (in a little more decorative verbiage). My point is NONE of these people would like to see a conflict come to their back yard. Yet they are the first ones screaming when our fine men and women are in harms way. Fed up Ive said a Perry Rubio ticket will as Mr Cheney stated will Cause some heads to explode. And its because of the Hispanic vote Mr Obama is trying to lock down.

[poor libbies, they are just so upset Perry is not a metrosexual!]

No, mitchell j...it's YOU that is upset because you are not a metrosexual...

...don;t you have to run...I think I hear ol' Ronnie calling you...

Fiesty's got it wrong:

His foreign policy is expressed in ten words: You're either with the USA or against the USA!

Oh wait, dang forgot to invoke the texas drawl translator.

Ok, in Texan, what he meant to say was: You're either with me or against me.

Hey, at least it's a clearly stated foreign policy. In fact, I think I recall reading this same policy successfully used by many leaders throughout human history: Pharoah, Caesar, Genghis Khan, the Pope, Napolean, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Marx, The Godfather, Al Capone, Dick Cheney, and a whole slew of American Presidents.

Doesn't seem like a very 'foreign' policy to me!

Yeah, sounds just like GWB - look where that got us...

Democrats aren't afraid of Ricky Perry. What they fear is that he represents a group of people who want to destroy this nation in the name of religion, while supporting cronyism and corporate exploitation.

Yep, Rick, the "Bush Doctrine" revisited.

"See here, y'all. The world is just like one big ol' Chuck E. Cheese restaurant. And US Foreign Policy should be just like that there 'Whack-A-Mole' game in the corner, see. And since the US has all the big ol' mallets, we get to make all the rules. T'aint no shades of gray in 'Whack-A-Mole'. We don't do nuance in the U S of A!!"

Let's see, who was it that dramatically increased the number od troops in Afghanistan? Who was it that got us involved in Libya? Who is it that is covertly involved in Yemen, Somalia, etc? Obama... Yeah, Bush sucked...but Obama sucks just as bad if not worse!!! They're ALL cut from the same cloth, and no longer have the best interests of the American people at heart.

Well you've got to hand it to old Perry. They don't get more unsophisticated politically than this. America is finally winding down its two longest wars in its entire history....one of them tremendously unpopular and fought for admittedly false reasons, the other just plain old unpopular...and he's got his cowboy hat on talking about 'taking it to' the enemy. This is another sign, along with his losing debate to a 9 year old on creationism, and the mind-numbing shocking idiocy of calling the head of the fed a "traitor". I'd heard the governor was not ready for prime time...now I know what they were talking about. This laughable "foreign policy statement" looks like it was written by a high schooler. Wow. You can't make this stuff up.

@ 3 Gold Bars

Who was it that got side tracked on the real villains of the 9/11 attack and let them slide right out from under his nose? Bush

Who reduced the number of our fighting forces in Afghanistan so me could attack a country that had nothing to do with 9/11? Bush

Who lied about WMDs in Iraq? Bush

You want to say Obama sucks worse than Bush but the fact still remains that had Bush not screwed up everything he ever had his fingers on this country would not be $14 trillion in debt, the economy would still be booming, we would probably not have Obama as a president, and over 4000 young men and women would still be alive.

Bush had us in 2 wars - Obama has us in 3.

No, two of those are still Bush's doing. Obama hasn't gotten us out, but Bush got us in, and only one of them was legit.

Let's see, who's DECREASING the number of troops in Iraq? Who ordered the mission to finally get Osama Bin Laden? Who finally achieved some measure of success, how many years after Bush's "mission accomplished" fiasco? And it was EXACTLY the right policy in Libya by the way...hard to argue with success...

Here's another enlightened comment by the right-wing nut jobs

Think whatever your little brain will allow about Iraq, but one thing is certain - Qaddafi would have the bomb today if Bush had not gone into Iraq.

This person must be related to Michelle Bachmann? Or is just that you right wing nuts cannot get your facts straight. The scary part is that these brain-dead religious nut cases are allowed to vote.

Come on now people. You didn't really expect Perry to be different from Dubya, did ya? For those that think Perry is the man, please actually take the time to do research on the man. You'll find he isn't all that FOX has made him out to be. I live in the Austin area and know Perry to be worthless (in every position he has held in Texas politics).

Ron Indiana

Somehow Perry makes stupid look normal. Who would ever believe that this is what our country is becoming.

The sinking of America has been Unbelievable!

These zealots are far removed from the political center.

These reactionaries speak with a hysterical fervor and dripping venom.

Collectively, and deceptively, these unqualified candidates make themselves to be part of a mainstream movement.

What is especially dangerous is that many Americans are politically naive - and they will vote for the dangerous Right Wing policies.

Is Rick Perry really George Bush on steroids? I don't think so. Steroids aren't that potent.

I will NOT stay in this country if he becomes president.

Collective, and deceptively, these unqualified candidates make themselves appear to be part of a mainstream movement.

Sad, but true, 25Walker.

dEd Grimley

Is Rick Perry really George Bush on steroids? I don't think so. Steroids aren't that potent.

I will NOT stay in this country if he becomes president.

#1.45 - Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:20 PM EDT

I think that many Americans would like to leave. However, they just cannot afford to go.

The people that can afford to go vacate...are the wealthy.

However, these powerful people are doing just fine. They have "milliions and billions" of reasons to stay and they are more than well contented.

Perry wants to take it to the enemy. Isn't that what President Obama did when planning the capture/death of bin Laden? In Perry's case, he means bombing until the enemy is killed. Obama is infinitely smarter than both Perry and GWB. Perry would in no way be an improvement over Obama.

Perry was speaking to veterans, so he told them what they wanted to hear and his next speech and the speech after that, will be telling the audience what he thinks they want to hear. With so much pandering from one speech to the next, no wonder he loses track and contradicts himself in the same sentence.

You people are so silly, collapsing points of view that you disagree with.

And I am supposed to believe that I would be better off voting for the left. ROTFLMAO

25Walker,

To be honest, you've got to include Obama in the group of unqualified candidates. Seems to me the libbies are starting to see a problem with their messiah's future. I voted for Obama and now I believe it was the dumbest vote of my life. No matter what you say, none of these candidates are any less qualified than our reigning President and Campaigner in Chief. Even Obama now knows he's paying a price for the over-reaching in the delirious early days of his Presidency when the Dems held complete control over this country's politics.

Scratch Perry off my list! Scratch Obama off my list! That leaves Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader if they would get in,I will not vote for any candidate starting new wars or continuing old ones period!.........................................................................................................................................Former CIA Officer Blows Lid off Libya Fraud Live on CNN
www.youtube.com
''Former CIA officer blows lid off libya fraud live on CNN! You don't see this all too often... so when it happens,

In Agreement, If you think for one minute that "Obama planned the capture and death of Bin Laden", I've got an island called Maui to sell you very cheap. Obama followed the lead of our military and intelligence people and they told him when it was time to go watch it on TV. Had the intelligence been there under any President, the mission would have been given the green light. I bet you really think Obama took over the hurricane command center during Hurricane Irene.

Not all liberals support Obama and his warmongering the ones that do I call Phony{WAR} liberals, this man is not

Bush and Cheney commited war crimes, Obama is doing the same crimes (Ralph Nader)
www.youtube.com
Ralph Nader (former Presidential Candidate) and Daniel Ellsberg plan to participate in a major protest on Saturday in Washington, D.C., to mark the eight-yea...I just wish Ralph Nader and Dennis Kucinich would challenge Obama in the primaries,I don't believe Obama intends to stop all these wars?

I want a President who will actually get us out of the wars we are in, not start more like Obama has done, and like Perry is offering to do.

Ron Paul 2012

Liberals: Such liitle minds when trying to sound intellegent. This man really scares the hades out of all of you, doesn't he? Proof being in all of the vehement outcrys from the far left on this post. But be still your fragile little egos, your Potus is running out of time, and you my dear little lemmings, are about to go over that cliff...!

Perry/Paul 2012! Get ready, here...they...come..!!!!!

Lanikai Ron -- Of course he was involved in the planning. He's the Commander in Chief. From the news I watched, the intelligence gathering and months of planning once they decided the compound was bin Laden's, was kept highly confidential and only a few were involved. Of course Obama was kept informed the whole time and he made the decision to carry out a precision night-time raid rather than using bombs. GWB would have used bombs. I don't know where you get your information, I'm guessing Faux News, and you're telling me I'm gullible.

Your bringing up the subject of hurricanes reminds me of GWB's and his incompetent FEMA appointee's handling of Hurricane Katrina.

Ton Indiana;

That's a "chillingly accurate" assessment of the GOP foreign policy understanding...very scary, sounds eerily like Palin.

If this Country ever elects a Republican leader (God forbid) I really hope they elect a true statesman... someone who was like Nixon. I know that sounds crazy, but Nixon had a very good foreign policy. In fact, he was the one who opened the door (Pandora's box) to China.

For the record, I can show you video evidence of children praying to a cardboard cut out of George W. Bush. You can show me songs of kids singing about how great it is that Obama's president, and I'll find it disgusting, too, but I don't think I'm going to see any kids praying to Obama.

It's only ever the conservatives who've insinuated that Obama is anything like a messiah.

Let us see? Tied at 47%...Um? so, if we take out the stragglers that are taking away from Perry right now, that means... come on, you Libs can do this without taking off your shoes... Man! Your little socialist is IN TROUBLE! Bawhahahaha! Perry/ (Bachman or Paul) 2012!!!

Mrkwildcat

''Perry/Paul 2012! Get ready, here...they...come..!!!!!'' Do you really think Ron Paul would want Rick Perry as his vice president? Not likely based on Gov Perry's stance on wars. You understand that Ron Paul is very anti-war? I am not trying to offend I just believe this is highly unlikely.

Keep it up Tea Party, etc. The Dems are looking gooder all the time!

Shudder... a Perry presidency.

Brings thoughts of the movie, "Idiocracy" to mind.

2 things......

Gooder isn't a word, and you're in the minority if you think the Democrats look good. They've been losing the white house and congress vs ANYONE ELSE poll for months now.

Another whoosie chickenhawk who thinks war is great for poor kids, but never served themself. Dumbazz probably thinks A&M counts as military service.

Sorry Republicans, Perry is not your man. If you want someone who can actually have a chance at beating Obama, you should start looking at Huntsman. Problem is, he won't pass the conservative purity test. Perry's record in Texas is so tainted, it isn't even close to funny. Huntsman can get the independent vote, whereas Perry will lose them, but he'll take virtually all of the Tea Party and conservative vote, but that won't be enough to win the general election. This is why moving too far to the right isn't such a smart move. But hey, don't listen to me, it is the Repubs election to lose, considering so many think Obama will lose. Just remember, he can "lose" to an unnamed candidate on paper, but when that candidate has the face of Palin, or Bachmann, or even Ron Paul, you lose the support of the middle, and both parties are vying for the voters in the middle, for that is how they intend to win in 2012. Also, keep up with Cantor's notion of no disaster help until there are spending cuts to offset the costs, and then you will most certainly lose in 2012. The majority of the eastern seaboard just took a huge hit and these people are going to need relief ASAP. Leave it up to Cantor to agitate those who will need help the most.

Ha ha ha...again, nothing but ranting, name-calling, collapsing, and pithy retorts from the "egg in their face" Obama supporters. So so sorry they didn't run Hillary but unable to obtain a time machine, the only thing left is to confuse the fact that we've had Obama for almost 3 of the most miserable years in the century for the US whilst all he does is send his best wishes from Martha's Vineyard, desparately trying to come up with another economic spending spree to fullfill the empty promises for 4 more years (good luck - NOT).

Have fun kids, the next election comes as a too-distant white knight to save us from this failed President.

Obama way overspent and if you think he cares about the country, here's an example: his EPA mandated new home builders with regulations that stifle building, and here's something totally ridiculous--Gibson guitars imports wood from India. OUR government sued them and said making the guitars should be in India! They want to collapse our economy so they can rebuild it the way they want. There is no other reason.

" ... The hypocrisy and the cowardice of the left is appalling. ... "

And the hypocrisy , arrogance and stupidity of the Right is not only appalling, but boarders on insanity and evil.

And you are about as arrogant, ignorant, hypocritical, loathsome and cowardly as they come. Take your hate, fear and bible and go away.

I am left and proud. I am a veteran and even prouder. And I resent your statement.

May God, if there is one, save us and this country, from you and your kind. PLEASE!

Lanikai Ron

"In Agreement, If you think for one minute that "Obama planned the capture and death of Bin Laden""

Was it Bin laden? How come there was no dialysis equipment found there. He needed it to live.

How come the DNA testing found it to be Bin laden faster than DNA analysis can be done?

The wrong don't care. The right want to know. Obama will come up with something else before election time to steer the sheep his way.

If Perry, Bachmann, Palin, Santorum or any of the half dozen other GOP Coo Coo Birds actually became president, tens of millions of Americans would try to leave the country rather than live in an lunatic asylum run by the Tea Party.

If the unimaginable DOES happen, let's just hope that Canada doesn't erect an anti-immigrant fence on its Southern border and randomly stop people on Canadian streets and demand documentation for the crime of looking American!

Obama is looking better and better every time Perry speaks.

Rick Perry slammed how George W. Bush managed the military and conducted war. Rick Perry endorsed how Barack H. Obama has managed the military and conducted war.

President Bush engaged in military 'adverturism', especially in Iraq. President Bush relinquished command of the Afghan theater to NATO. President Bush withdrew troops from Saudi Arabia to appease Al Quaeda. President Bush 'cut and run' from Afghanistan to redeploy troops to Iraq.

President Obama has taken the fight to our enemies - in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen. President Obama has removed combat troops from the Iraq adventure - apparently everyone missed it because there was not a 'mission accomplished' banner. President Obama used the military with NATO in Libya without compromise AND without endangering the lives of soldiers and sailors.

Rick Perry is saying he would command the military like President Obama has. President Obama is the experienced military commander in this election cycle.

Obama's foreign policy experience was formed during his association with people like Van Jones, Rev. Wright, nation of islam and other anti American radical left people....

Obama and NATO have destroyed Libya, a country whose citizens were far better off than their neighbors. They have reduced to rubble and beggared a nation in the name of 'humanitarian aid.'

"WE" have already spent over $800 million dollars in a "humanitarian aid" effort.
The great messiah will now borrow to rebuild what should have never been destroyed in the first place, and the taxpayers will once again get another heaping mouthful of Hopenchange.

George from Wa. State- You must of voted for Gregoire.........................................................

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Sorry, I had to go vomit.

A guy named Bill said to me, right here on newsvine, that there was going to be a new civil war, and when it happened, he was going to come and take all of my property and wealth from me. He said that if I resisted he would kill me. He claimed to be a liberal democrat. That sounds like true evil to me.

Also, I am a libertarian/ independent, so your 'I hate the right' nonsense doesn't offend me. If you want to (offend me), you're going to have to get creative. LOL

<edit>must have voted...

man I need to go to bed!

Justified defiance:

you are insane...need I say more?

Perry's "foreign policy" isn't foreign policy. It's war mongering. He most likely doesn't even know what the words mean.

I thought the TP's position was that we can't keep borrowing money to pay for things we can't afford and saddling our children with the debt? How does he plan to, "take the fight to the enemy" without raising taxes? For that matter, since our military is stretched to the breaking point, how does he plan to do it without a draft?

Well, it doesn't really matter. He's obviously just trying to get America to "look over there" and not at his record in Texas. A very blatant attempt at a clumsy diversion. Well done, Mr. Perry, you almost fooled 3 people.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." -- Pogo, by cartoonist Walt Kelly.

Lanikai Ron

25Walker,

To be honest, you've got to include Obama in the group of unqualified candidates. Seems to me the libbies are starting to see a problem with their messiah's future. I voted for Obama and now I believe it was the dumbest vote of my life. No matter what you say, none of these candidates are any less qualified than our reigning President and Campaigner in Chief.
#1.51 - Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:58 PM EDT

Do you REALLY believe that intellectually and in terms of leadership skills - that BACHMANN, PERRY, GINGRICH, CAIN, ROMMNEY, etc - are in the same category as Obama?

Obama ran an excellent campaign in 2008.

On the campaign, trail he was controlled and he demonstrated political brilliance.

Bachmann, Perry, Cain cannot even manage to keep their foots out of their mouths - while they are campaigning. Image the even Bigger Political Blunders that these hysterical and frantic misleaders would make - if one of these Right Wingers landed in the White House!

I can see Bachmann now (ha!) meeting with the heads of state for China, Russia, Great Britain. To avoid tremendous embarrassment to our country, I am sure that the physicians that would be travelling with her - would deliberately make her sick - so that she could escape these political "hot chairs" and so they could quickly whisk her back to the U.S.

Perry - what would he do? Start thumping a bible (and I am a praying person) over the head of Putin?

Cain - what would he talk about to the prime minister of Great Britain - how many Godfather pizzas he has eaten.

Gingrich - would he truly be able to keep his abrasive personality under control at International summit meetings?

And let us not forget Romney - I can image how sweet he would look singing carols to the heads of the Scandinavian countries that: CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE TOO...

Yes, Obama could have made better choices.

However, Bachmann, Perry, Gingrich, Cain, Romney, etc - are out of their league when they are intellectually and political compared to President Obama.

We have been taking the fight to the enemy for more than 10 years now. That is just not quite working out for me, I am looking for less military adventurism. It looks like the most successful and least expensive military intervention we have been involved in 20 years was Libya. Things do seem to work out with you play your position as part of a team instead of trying to hot dog it.

I never knew my "liberal" friends were so sensitive to opposing points of view. When the favored post (126 votes and counting) is "anti Perry" and the and most of the opposing views are "collapsed by community" It is changing my view of Liberalism in general.... here is a lesson:

On conservative blogs you can say what ever (as long as it "clean") you wont find many (if any) "collapsed" comments.... here all the time It is official... Liberals care little about discussion/debate they just want their point of view..... The Vine" was my first foray into blogging... and though I realize that this is a "liberal" news org I thought the "community" would be more tolerant.... my mistake.... Liberals are THE most narrow minded group.... I feel more educated and remember this lesson in my future voting, debates, discussions. Especially when November 2012 rolls around.

Perry/Rubio.......I like it.

Call Fiesty Red Head to tell her how much you love her thoughtful, insightful, Liberal dogma

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She will pass it on to Obama so that he can feel even more secure in his belief that he can win in 2012. Then more Leftists will stay home on election day and Perry will be President.

Obama needs to follow the lead of Clinton and lead his party toward the center instead of further left. If he stays to the left he is one and done no matter how incompetent the Republican is.

Very well said Flame, now prepare to be collapsed.

Bachmann, Perry, Cain cannot even manage to keep their foots out of their mouths - while they are campaigning. Image the even Bigger Political Blunders that these hysterical and frantic misleaders would make - if one of these Right Wingers landed in the White House!

You mean like bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia or giving the Queen of England an Ipod with a mixed tape on it?

And it is "feet" not "foots. If I believed the Liberal bloggist you'd have to be a TEA Partier since you are so ignorant.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Slick Rick's foreign policy plan = 5 words!

Shoot first ask questions later...

Didn't we get enough of war mongering TX governor cowboys to last us a lifetime?

Well evidently Obama does not think we have had enough war mongering. We got Osama time to leave Afghanistan and why did he get us involved in Libya over OIL once again? Why did Hillary and Kerry immediately go public after BinLaden was killed on why we need to keep the war in Afghanistan going and keep giving BILLIONS to our "Friends" in Pakistan? Where'ss the "change"? Looks like the same old war mongering and taxpayer raping BS to me.

I think it is pretty hilarious you talk about "warmongering" with the current puppet in chief we have.

Ron Paul is the only one serious about stopping the war insanity, Obama is just another puppet of one of the largest profiteers of war ...GE

Gharms: the quotation marks around "gooder" were assumed by everyone but you, apparently.

Disagree on your second point, and time will tell.

Somehow Perry makes stupid look normal. Who would ever believe that this is what our country is becoming.

It's not likely the Air Force allows idiots to fly multi-million dollar fighters. So, Perry may be lots of things one may find objectionable but stupid is not one of them. But since when did facts ever matter to a condescending, arrogant. elitist progressive.

Somehow I just can't picture the world respecting this Yosemite Sam yahoo (Rick Perry) and actually working with him to take out a known terrorist (like Gadaffy.)

While some people will say, who cares, we can do it ourselves. Well at the cost of TRILLIONS of dollars and thousands of American lives, yes we can, but then we have to decide to pay for the cost of our wars of agression.

OR we can join the world community and play a limited role, allowing people to truly decide to have a democracy, without an occupying foreign force gaming the system in order to allow mercenary companies to profit. We don't need another Blackwater (or Xe) profiteer in the whitehouse.

@ dirp101 heeheh Perry Panic is what Poltico is calling it... "The Left considers Perry a real threat"

//www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0811/Perry_Panic.html

Perry has many, many years of practice talking out both sides of his mouth. The harder you listen, the more likely you are to hear him agree with you. That's the mark of a great politician. It's a shame that what we need is a leader.

Wait...he's got to get out a map first....

The enemy??!!? The enemy's within!!!!

Secede...right, Rick???

Some foreign policy.

get them before they get you .. your either for or against us .. shoot first let god sort them out ... wire taps and torture sounds like the plan cheney had for this country

Whose hoss? Little Ricks. Good looking hoss. What did you name the hoss? George. George huh? May I go back to rocking now? Yes. Get back on your hoss and rock Rick. "Come a yippie kiah yaaaa".

No, the problem was we should never have been there to begin with.

How RIGHT you are Pat!

Now thanks to Dick crawling out of his bunker to hawk his tell-all book - we are going to have to relive the debacle for days...

Buckle you seat belt! ;o)

So very true, Pat.

Well, god, who was that got involved in Vietnam in the first place? Who was it that escalated the conflict by sending more and more troops? And who was it that finally started withdrawing troops from the country?

BrutusCA:

And who was it that finally started withdrawing troops from the country?

I believe that was the guy who ran in 1968 with his "secret plan" to end the war; a plan which was punctuated with "secret" bombings of Cambodian people, who surely knew they were being bombed, a Peace Accord 5 years after his election that didn't bring any peace, and final implementatiuon 7 years after his election, nearly a year after he left office in disgrace, when the last American personnel were evacuated from roof tops in Saigon, as the city was being overrun.

These things take time to do them right.

Yeah, teabaggers why don't you whine about the TRILLIONS wasted in Iraq???

Boy that money coulda been put to good use....

Yeah, teabaggers why don't you whine about the TRILLIONS wasted in Iraq???

Don't forget BORROWED with the Chinese VISA card...

I think thats the rally cry of the Tea Bag movement, to stop spending and borrowing from China to fund the crumbling American empire. The so called "Left" have perversed this movement into some sort of crazy idea, not sure why. As well, why do said members of the so called "Left" constantly bash Bush, and the neocon regime, when they were the 2nd most LIBERAL spenders in history, behind only Obama and his band of Wall Street cohorts?

Ron Paul, for America http://www.dailypaul.com/

Trillions!!! Wasted in Iraq. How many trillions were wasted in Iraq HAG? You seem to be painting with a pretty liberal brush stroke there little buddy. From Wikipedia:

• FY2003 Supplemental: Operation Iraqi Freedom: Passed April 2003; Total $78.5 billion, $54.4 billion Iraq War
• FY2004 Supplemental: Iraq and Afghanistan Ongoing Operations/Reconstruction: Passed November 2003; Total $87.5 billion, $70.6 billion Iraq War
• FY2004 DoD Budget Amendment: $25 billion Emergency Reserve Fund (Iraq Freedom Fund): Passed July 2004, Total $25 billion, $21.5 billion (estimated) Iraq War
• FY2005 Emergency Supplemental: Operations in the War on Terror; Activities in Afghanistan; Tsunami Relief: Passed April 2005, Total $82 billion, $58 billion (estimated) Iraq War
• FY2006 Department of Defense appropriations: Total $50 billion, $40 billion (estimated) Iraq War.
• FY2006 Emergency Supplemental: Operations Global War on Terror; Activities in Iraq & Afghanistan: Passed February 2006, Total $72.4 billion, $60 billion (estimated) Iraq War
• FY2007 Department of Defense appropriations: $70 billion(estimated) for Iraq War-related costs^[4][5]
• FY2007 Emergency Supplemental (proposed) $100 billion
• FY2008 Bush administration has proposed around $190 billion for the Iraq War and Afghanistan^[6]
• FY2009 Obama administration has proposed around $130 billion in additional funding for the Iraq War and Afghanistan.^[7]
• FY2011 Obama administration proposes around $159.3 billion for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.^[8]

^{That totals something akin to about $750 BILLION or not 1 single trillion. Now if you want to go calculate the cost of tending to the veterans of the war through 2050 you can get into the trillions, but that would be disengenuous since Obama's healthcare plan would have them either way.}

^{I still think you are smoking hot Fiesty, Gimme a call sometime at 202-456-1414, ask for Barry.}

Interesting... how liberals always forget that Congress got the same intel that the president did, and they voted to fund the Iraq war.... lots of Dems had to vote for it too, or it wouldn't have passed.... plus, the gassing of Iraqi Kurds was well documented.... we just gave Hussein two months to hide/move all of the material before we did anything about it...

And your guy, didn't he bump up the Afghanistan war... and just start another one? Seems like he didn't do ANYTHING he said he was going to do... except raise taxes (see Obozocare for the particulars, like a 3.8% sales tax when you sell your house!)

It's not funny. It's pathetic.

The same people research and build intel reports that EVERYONE GETS. The difference is your security clearance. The higher your clearance the more intel you get. And contrary to what you would think! The units that are in ops mode often get much more refined data and rightly so since they are the ones going into battle. Believe me Senior Officers know what they can and cant rightly tell politicians right up to the president. Its the old " need to know" rule!

You are in never-never land; the senior officer that decides the President doesn't have a need to know something (he is the Commander in Chief, after all) will be lucky to be allowed to retire instead of getting a court martial.

Pat, Boston, MA

"saying that soliders at that time faced the uncertainty of "not knowing at times when the enemy lurked among them in the civilian population" as well as the dithering of leaders in Washington were "not prepared to win" the conflict.

No, the problem was we should never have been there to begin with."

Oh, so we should just let those who took out the towers slide. Peacelovedove never works when you are attacked. It just shows your weakness and willingness to succumb to those who attacked you. Then you become their slaves.

However, I don't believe in sending troops in to try to set up new governments. Bomb the crap out of government who support terrorism. Don't rebuild them. Destroy them and let them rebuild themselves. If they are dumb enough to do it again when they rebuild, destroy them again.

They have no compassion for us. Why not return the favor?

Rational AmeriCAN

Trillions!!! Wasted in Iraq. How many trillions were wasted in Iraq HAG? You seem to be painting with a pretty liberal brush stroke there little buddy. From Wikipedia:

• FY2003 Supplemental: Operation Iraqi Freedom: Passed April 2003; Total $78.5 billion, $54.4 billion Iraq War
• FY2004 Supplemental: Iraq and Afghanistan Ongoing Operations/Reconstruction: Passed November 2003; Total $87.5 billion, $70.6 billion Iraq War
• FY2004 DoD Budget Amendment: $25 billion Emergency Reserve Fund (Iraq Freedom Fund): Passed July 2004, Total $25 billion, $21.5 billion (estimated) Iraq War
• FY2005 Emergency Supplemental: Operations in the War on Terror; Activities in Afghanistan; Tsunami Relief: Passed April 2005, Total $82 billion, $58 billion (estimated) Iraq War
• FY2006 Department of Defense appropriations: Total $50 billion, $40 billion (estimated) Iraq War.
• FY2006 Emergency Supplemental: Operations Global War on Terror; Activities in Iraq & Afghanistan: Passed February 2006, Total $72.4 billion, $60 billion (estimated) Iraq War
• FY2007 Department of Defense appropriations: $70 billion(estimated) for Iraq War-related costs^[4][5]
• FY2007 Emergency Supplemental (proposed) $100 billion
• FY2008 Bush administration has proposed around $190 billion for the Iraq War and Afghanistan^[6]
• FY2009 Obama administration has proposed around $130 billion in additional funding for the Iraq War and Afghanistan.^[7]
• FY2011 Obama administration proposes around $159.3 billion for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.^[8]

^{That totals something akin to about $750 BILLION or not 1 single trillion. Now if you want to go calculate the cost of tending to the veterans of the war through 2050 you can get into the trillions, but that would be disengenuous since Obama's healthcare plan would have them either way.}

^{I still think you are smoking hot Fiesty, Gimme a call sometime at 202-456-1414, ask for Barry.}

^{RATIONAL BUMBA$$,}

^{How did you forget this part?}

Indirect and delayed costs

According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report published in October 2007, the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could cost taxpayers a total of $2.4 trillion dollars by 2017 when counting the huge interest costs because combat is being financed with borrowed money. The CBO estimated that of the $2.4 trillion long-term price tag for the war, about $1.9 trillion of that would be spent on Iraq, or $6,300 per U.S. citizen.^[9][10]

Stiglitz, former chief economist of the World Bank and winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics, has stated the total costs of the Iraq War on the US economy will be three trillion dollars in a moderate scenario, and possibly more in the most recent published study, published in March 2008.^[11] Stiglitz has stated: "The figure we arrive at is more than $3 trillion. Our calculations are based on conservative assumptions...Needless to say, this number represents the cost only to the United States. It does not reflect the enormous cost to the rest of the world, or to Iraq."^[11]

The extended combat and equipment loss have placed a severe financial strain on the U.S Army, causing the elimination of non-essential expenses such as travel and civilian hiring.

Now your answer is going to be this: are you using your facts from wikipedia? OMG!!!

Alex Cali - Cute deflection with the totally irrelevant "indirect and delayed costs"! Since all of the money we are spending on everything is borrowed we can also state that Obama's stimulus program that didn't work is actually $3 trillion, not $1 trillion; that Obamacare is actually going to cost $9 trillion not $3 trillion, etc. In sum, that means that Obama has increased the national deficit debt from $4 trillion to $12 trillion in less than three years. Be careful with these idiotic smokescreens and heeby-jeeby economic analyses that liberals cook up whenever the actual facts do not support their arguments.

Alex Cali - (notice I did not amend your name to include a childish name call like you and the other immature liberals)

Chicago skeptic nailed you dude.

Building on that, shall we calculate the indirect and delayed costs of Obamanomics? The lost net worth of 14 million Americans who did not earn any money and the interest earned over the next 50 years on the money they did not earn. Lets see, 14 million people at $30,000 a year for 2 years valued over 50 years at 2% interest is equal to ......

.........$2.26 trillion. Lossed forever.

Then there is the cost of the unemployment benefits that Obama borrowed on his Chinese VISA card. At an interest rate of 3.5%, we will owe China another $1.16 trillion over the next 50 years.

I like this Dumbocrat math, all you need is an interest rate and 50 years to pay it off and you get stupid numbers to be used for shock value.

Alex Cali, you have been weighed and measured and found to be wanting.

The extended combat and equipment loss have placed a severe financial strain on the U.S Army, causing the elimination of non-essential expenses such as travel and civilian hiring.

Alex Cali,

Do you think that this is because Dumbocrats like to cut military spending? Replacement of military goods tends to lead to high paying jobs that employ skilled workers (middle class), engineers (middle class), technology workers (middle class) and on and on. And those are American companies and many are in CALIFORNIA. But you are to ignorant to understand the benefit of that kind of spending. Maybe we can build another fish hatchery for the California Anal Darter fish so that you can stock your dry river beds, now that is money well spent.

FedUp: STOP LYING!!! The 3.8% tax only applies to the gain in excess of $500,000 for a married couple on other than your primary residence, if you earn over $250,000 a year. SO, if you & your wife are making over $250,000 a year and you sell your Vail Condo for over $600,000, making a profit of over $500,000, then the tax applies.

Please STOP LYING, it just makes you look like a Republican.

haggisbingo-2225582

Yeah, teabaggers why don't you whine about the TRILLIONS wasted in Iraq???

Boy that money coulda been put to good use....

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Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Yeah, teabaggers why don't you whine about the TRILLIONS wasted in Iraq???

Don't forget BORROWED with the Chinese VISA card...

I am pissed about the TRILLIONS wasted in Iraq.....Hey, Who was that guy that promised to get us out of Iraq? Why are we still there now? Why did we get involved in a THIRD clusterF*ck with Libya? Why are we still involved with Afghanistan now that Osama is dead? Why did Kerry and Hillery IMMEDIATELY go on TV after Osama was killed and tell us we still need to be in Afghanistan and keep giving BILLIONS to Pakistan? Is it true GE is one of the biggest profiteers of war and one of Obamas biggest campaign donors?

Please take your Political party goggles off and maybe you will see that as far as foreign policy and war this is nothing but a continuation of Bush policies.

Amy B. Portland, ME

"the dithering of leaders in Washington were "not prepared to win" the conflict."

Yeah, Perry, if only we'd napalmed a few thousand more Vietnamese civilians, why, Vietnam wouldn't be the huge thorn in our side it is today...oh, wait, Vietnam is our trading partner today? Vietnam "went communist" and now they welcome tourists to visit? Oh, if only we'd "won!"

Amy,

Trick Rick knows how to benefit from torpedoing those contributions from the big oil companies as well as plundering the resources in Texas.

I'm glad you liked the 2 videos Friday I had for Lady Sniff.

Beverly in Chicago

Yes! I liked them very much. I also am going to be looking for a video of Michelle Obama and Jill Biden on Ellen, I saw a promo for the show, it looks fantastic. Let me know if you run across that.

Amy were you one of those people throwing rancid blood on me and my fellow returning service memebers? Believe me the thing that sturck me during the demonstrations this summer in Michigan and WIsconsin .......brought back ugly bad memories of how myself and my fellow military personal were treated when we came back. I love this country and all its stands for even you liberals, although sometimes I do wonder why. But then I realize ......I have had a member of my family in the US military since Bunker Hill (I have a relative buried there) My Grandfather has a silver star from Iwo Jima and my dad marched across the Chosin Resv. in North Korea. I am a proud American!

JOS: if you want to promote a Republican viewpoint, "treating returning service members with respect" is probably not the angle to go with...

"the dithering of leaders in Washington were "not prepared to win" the conflict."

More truly, those leaders finally figured out that we can't win a fight against a more commited foe protecting their own homeland from invaders, whether those invaders be French, Japanese, French again, or the US (after Eisenhower and Dulles prevented free and fair elections in the South because Ho Chi Minh would have won by a landslide).

Our problem is that sometimes we don't know which wars to fight. Obama is getting it right when he says, "Let the Libyans decide."

Don't worry, Jon....that was just Rickie quoting a speech he gave at a cheerleading pep-rally when he was a cheerleader at aggyland.

LOL, Marco, but it is Aggieland. Just FYI.

Amy B. Portland, ME

"the dithering of leaders in Washington were "not prepared to win" the conflict."

"Yeah, Perry, if only we'd napalmed a few thousand more Vietnamese civilians, why, Vietnam wouldn't be the huge thorn in our side it is today...oh, wait, Vietnam is our trading partner today? Vietnam "went communist" and now they welcome tourists to visit? Oh, if only we'd "won!""

The only thing we import fron VN of significance is seafood raised in sewers. Eat it if you like.

Trust me, Brent...it's "aggy-land"...or "Hearne"

Wait til the posts of Rickie start surfacing with him in his aggy cheerleading uniform...LOL.....

Does he wear the low cut, short skirt uniform? LOL!!!

Nevermind, I already have the visual. Baaaaadddddd!!

Well said, Gingerbread Mamma. Bush/Cheney never paid for their two wars; they put it on the credit card along with everything else. Now conservatives wonder how the debt became so high and worse yet, blame President Obama for it.

Quick question: How are they being paid for now?????

lmfao....... My ex hated it when I told her we were moving to Dallas. She hated guys that looked at her and said "Darrrrrrrlin" move 10 years forward.....were divorced and shes now married to a Texan that calls her you got it "DARRRRRRLIN" Women...... you just never know with them!

Jollyold...I don't even know you and I'm bettin that that "Darrrrrrrlin" wasn't all that led to that divorce. Don't think that one can be attributed to "women".

ben ... there being paid for with tax payer money now ... the bush regime paid with borrowed chinese money..

JOS - You are really full of yourself, aren't you. Most of your comments are all about you and then you turn around and spit at the the men you fought with just because they are "liberals'. Well, my giant "liberal" father was an Air Force Colonel and a B-52 bomber pilot who flew missions over Viet Nam and as unjustifiable as that war was, I NEVER heard my father say an ugly word about any of the men who served with him. He was a decent human being and a damn good military pilot who flew a huge plane with very ugly bombs on it but who also thought all of the men he flew with and fought with were the bravest of heros and it did not matter to him what their political views were or whether they were enlisted men or officers. You, on the other hand appear to be someone who would stand next to a guy in a foxhole, ask him if he was a Republican or a Democrat before you would spend one moment of your precious time fighting with him. You can climb on that horse with Rick Perry if you want to, it's a free country but quit spewing the slander about our military soldiers whether they are conservative or liberal. No one who fought in that Viet Nam war should be treated with such disrespect and especially from one who fought in that war along side of them. Keep your feelings of cowardice to yourself, I don't care if you hated all of them for one reason or another. And, oh, by the way, we don't need to hear about your ex-wife and her faults either.

independent jim

"ben ... there being paid for with tax payer money now ... the bush regime paid with borrowed chinese money.."

Where do you think Obama has been borrowing from? Same place, but even more.

Actually, Bob, during the Bush/Cheney years, the 2 wars wern't even put into the budget....to the tune of over SEVEN, yes 7 TRILLION dollars. As a comparison, during our entire conflict in Libya, we've spent what was spent in ONE DAY of warfare in Iraq.

And now, at least we release our figures and put it into the defense budget. Just think, if we hadn't borrowed the 7.2 trillion AND COUNTING on our war in Iraq, we'd have a balanced budget...HMMMM

I beg to differ, Drive-by.

"We must be willing to act when it is time to act," he said to a crescendo of applause during his remarks. "

Now THAT'S what I call a safe, generic statement!

Now THAT'S what I call a safe, generic statement!

Who ARE these idiots applauding such empty, generic statements? The same folks who gave us Bush/Cheney, obiously.

When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?

That collaboration with Britain and France over Libya put a lot of our drones at risk but no real people. Maybe Perry can't tell the difference.

..and those applauding, yup were VFW members....reportedly 8 thousand in attendance, even Romney is scheduled to attend/speak on Tuesday.

Bet Slick Rick won't venture into claiming that that group is sucking off the federal health system and adding to the deficit!

Steeler.......Hmmm how do I say this! We have people on the ground in Lybia. As a matter of fact in Tripoli proper. You really dont think we dont know whats going on do you.

JOS: Where are you getting your information from? Because literally every news report contradicts what you're saying.

From.....the single most reliable source. Friends serving in our military in SOCOM units that I talk to several times a week.

Special Ops guys who don't even discuss their missions with their own families confide in you, Jolly? I'm totally impressed!

Isn't disclosing confidential information such as troop movements and locations to non authorized personnel considered treason?

Jollyold: are you seriously going to try and argue that our Libya policy was the wrong one?

IF you not in the Club you dont get to play....... Join spend 10 years active duty and 6 years active reserves. You can play in the big boys sand box. And Joanne we can discuss general policy and these are not "troops" they a specially trained recon people. And I not talking imminent ops just general fodder that is of discussion. Im not active duty I dont get the real info anymore just the outside not important because most people realize the real situation. And AP no Im not, I was part of the targeting team for Mr Reagans response on Quadaffi. I spent more than a few years in Saudi, Bahrain, Iran (Shah period) and a few months in eastern Europe.

It's not treason because they're not discussing squat with him. He's lying. It's the internet and you can say and be whatever you want anonymously. Not that (as in here) most won't realize you're full of crap. They only SOCOM that guy is in communication with might be the video game.

JOS, if you don't turn them in then you too are aiding and abetting the enemy. They are leaking highly sensitive US information. Or, you could just be lying. lol

jollyoldsoul1

IF you not in the Club you dont get to play....... Join spend 10 years active duty and 6 years active reserves. You can play in the big boys sand box. And Joanne we can discuss general policy and these are not "troops" they a specially trained recon people. And I not talking imminent ops just general fodder that is of discussion. Im not active duty I dont get the real info anymore just the outside not important because most people realize the real situation. And AP no Im not, I was part of the targeting team for Mr Reagans response on Quadaffi. I spent more than a few years in Saudi, Bahrain, Iran (Shah period) and a few months in eastern Europe.

Is recon people the same as soldiers in the ground?

alex, I think you may have a typo there, as "soldiers in the ground" tend to be deceased, but "on the ground" is another matter. I believe he would say yes, to your question. I say that because I have read many of JOS's posts, but I could be wrong.

JOS, I've never served in the armed forces and even I have a better understanding of OPSEC than you do. You have no credibility.

I just can't get over a man who was willing to advocate secession a few years ago givng his positions on foreign policy. To me the President has to be a person with a fundamental love for this country. For all that I disagreed with him, I never doubted George Bush's patriotism. Anyone who has thought his state should secede fails my patriotism test.

Jody, Iowa

Rah, rah, siss-boom bah. Perry, the flag-waving Texan; he sounds just like that other Texan who gave us eight years of hell and we're still trying to claw our way out--he can't pronounce nuclear either.

Jody, it's Repuberty

Kinda like steeping in cow dung

dont worry Sheila, your messiah already worked with his buds in hollywood to release a nice propaganda film just before the election giving bam bam all the credit.

Mitch, I believe you said, in an earlier post, that Perry would not bow to a king. Well he certainly would bow down to the Bilderberg group. He would be a perfect puppet for that group. google "Rick Perry Bilderberg Istanbul, Turkey" He should have been investigated for violation of the Logan Act.

fayse, bam bam has already bowed down to several foreign kings. when it comes to the domestic ones, his service to them is no less obvious: immelt, soros and trumka are the reason bam bams ears are so over handled.

mitch Obama has done more then your messiah did in 8years.

Sheila errrrrr MD! I take it you have a lot of military service under your belt. And hold a top secret clearance or better. Chirp chirp chirp! For the rest of you, Mr Obama did play a part in the acquisition of OBLs kill. As with every president I and many others served under, the process is the same. 1. Intel briefings and a yea or nay! Mr Obama is responsible for saying "Its a go" then going into the situation room to watch!

America's moral authority? Who passed out an an extra serving to the USA? We don't need a rabid imbecile like Perry pulling the trigger.

jollyoldsoul1

Knows exactly how the strike to kill Osama went. Because he had a security clearance that means he's an expert and knows all the details from the top on down as to how it works.

Bullsh*t.

You don't know jack about how the mission went and you're talking out of your backside. I don't care if you had a security clearance 25 years ago. You don't know squat. You weren't there. On any level. You weren't with the decision makers. You weren't with the commanders. You weren't with the Seals during the raid. You're just an old man full of hot air who thinks he knows everything because he used to serve.

jollyoldsoul1

Sheila errrrrr MD! I take it you have a lot of military service under your belt. And hold a top secret clearance or better. Chirp chirp chirp! For the rest of you, Mr Obama did play a part in the acquisition of OBLs kill. As with every president I and many others served under, the process is the same. 1. Intel briefings and a yea or nay! Mr Obama is responsible for saying "Its a go" then going into the situation room to watch!

Obama made hes number one priority for the CIA was to get Bin Laden.

If something had gone wrong and people would have been killed you would be the first one to blame our president. but since this one went right in your view Obama gets no credit for it.

America first: Well put; However if Obama keeps giving way to everything the republicans want the party will be totally divided and we may get another nut. The republican party would be totally dead if if the democrats were much different. We need real change.

Huh!

"...just another bush only not quite as bright..." That's quite an insult - and really hard to achieve - LOL But if the shoe fits...

I will agree that best of wisdom has not always been used across the last several decades in choosing which wars we get involved in, and we certainly can't police the whole world. Expenditures haven't been controlled very well at all.

But would some of you people really rather that the enemy be allowed to attack us on our own soil first, when we could have prevented it? That would be needlessly asking for civilian casualties. Not all potential attacks are as unpredictable as those of 9/11.

Steve, 9/11 was predictable. The Bush Administration knew something was going to happen. They even knew that it was supposed to be done with hijacked air planes, and did nothing to try to prevent it. They apparently wanted a reason to go into Iraq. The intel was there. The NSA was even tracking Mohammed Atta and his cell, before 9/11. Like I said, the information was there, but nothing was done to prevent 9/11.

The terrorists ability to use civilians as a disguise or place to hide ended when men, women and children began firing weapons at US Soldiers and legitimate govenments. Like Hamas in the Gaza strip, the afghan and Iraqi terrorists will be killed, wherever they try to hide.

thats what it is.

You are correct. It is a good message to get out. If the young adults who are contributing now believe that it will be there for them when they are ready, they are going to have a big surprise unless something is done. That is the basis behind the Ponzi scheme. It pays off for the first investors, but the last ones are left with nothing.

There is no way that this C-D student thought that up by himself. He must have stolen that line from Ann Coulter. Rick Perry is incapable of formulating an original thought. He will be a puppet for whomever has enough cash.

fayse.......can you anser me one simple question.....and well honestly ANY of you answer this. What were Mr and mrs Obama's grades. I mean really. We know everyone grades dont we.

Mitch: you're free to opt out and give back your social security when the time comes. Some of us actually earned ours. And I hope your guy keeps up that line...because along with his bible-thumping sermons and attacks on long settled science, it's just one more thing marking him as not ready for prime time. This is not a national candidate.

well the President was magna cum laude at Harvard Law. That means With High Honors, jolly (I'm guessing Latin isn't your strong suit). And he went to Columbia for undergrad, so he must've been a pretty good student (I should know since I have my M.A. from there).

Jolly you're so right! There are a lot of old geezers out there who care about Social Security, everyone else sees this the same way we do. Real Republicans need to be held to this as a requirement for being a candidate, everyone else is a RINO.

He should just cut to the chase: "I'm for anything that works, unless Obama is for it, or unless I find out that I was really wrong about that."

please dont talk about bam bam that way.

lmao.....mitch!

coming a karl rove blogger, doesnt mean much

well, its better than an occupant who's loving followers believe is God Himself!

Right on, Mitch!

"Whiter House"? Sounds like a racist comment to me. Perry is right, we don't need our soldiers being commanded by NATO or the United Nations and we certainly don't need a "world committee" to determine what is in the best interests of the United States.

Mitch: That was pretty pathetic. if anyone uses messianic language to justify everything and anything its your boy and his followers.

mitch

Another moronic statement from you. What a surprise. The only ones to ever call Obama the messiah were you and yours. Then you go around blathering your loud mouthed nonsense from the rooftops, "LIBRULS THINK OBAMMYS THE MESSIUH".

You guys really need to come up with some mudslinging that doesn't sound like it's out of elementary school. I know, it's tough to do so with a Forrest Gump level IQ. But I honestly think you can do better.

Perry's talk about the U.S. in the world community kinda reminds me about his feelings about Texas in the U.S: " Do it our way or else!!" And some people actually like that .. lol

Community Oganizing? This man can only organize cash for his bank account.

Texas representatives meet Bi Annually, which means every two years.

Is he a college professor? Not in your wildest dreams. He barely finished college and he was a solid C-D student. What University would pay him to speak?

If you are attempting to smear the President, please don't forget that he was the President of the Harvard Law Review, he graduated Magna Cum Laude, he served two terms as a State Senator before he became a US Senator. Yes he was also a Community Organizer, since when has it become dishonorable for someone to give selflessly of their time to serve their community? It was to help his community, it certainly wasn't for the money.

Fayse........and again.....what were Mr. Obama's grades?

Mr. Obama graduated magna cum laude.

How do you know?

oh wait...I forgot...Obama's really a martian from Hawaii by way of kenya who actuallywasn't really ever born (or was born and planted here by Muslims who are secretly waiting to take over America and turn us all into anti-Christian zombies or maybe it was Zulu zombies who ate Christians...) and who never went to Columbia or Law School and actually who never really had a mother, just a father (from Africa) and most likely had a cardboard cut out of himself in class all that time because no one REALLY knows if it was really him graduating and taking those classes (as well as when he taught, or maybe didn't). There, did I get that right now?

Hey JOS and Ben.

How's that birther thingy workin' for ya?

Stupid conspiracy theorists.

That was hilarious, AP. The resounding silence in response from the talking-point heads (and c'mon guys, at least find talking points that aren't ridiculously passe) was even funnier. Well done!

"chirp, chirp, chirp"

Hey Mitch --- Cindy Sheehan has given up more and done more for this nation than any tin horn patriot like you ever thought about.

WHO? and wanna bet. I will put my military service record up as a match!

Yeah but your service here is garbage.

I keep noticing a theme how jolly likes to beat everyone over the head with his military service. Like the BMOC who never accomplished anything after high school was over. Jolly is your favorite Springsteen song "Glory Days"?

Damn right Facist, you would cry like a baby in a firefight. your panties would take 3 days to dry out. You have NO Idea about what its like to face an enemy ( someone that wants to kill you very badly) and to watch your friends cry out for their mother in the last bloody moment of their lives. In service to this great country. Im sure you will poo poo this and post some mouthy response at attempts to make you look above this all. But Im sure that has no impact on your mindset.

What the hell do YOU know about it, "Jolly"oldsoul1? What's Perry know about it?

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JOS, go back to reading your Tom Clancy novels.

Geez, can someone shut JOS up? What a major blow hard. He can not discuss anything unless it is about his military service. You would think he was the ONLY soldier on this planet. Give it a break will you as you are NOT impressing anyone here!

STLMIke-That's all we are going to hear for the next 12 months. Liberals had control of Congress from 2007 through 2010 and the White House for almost 3 years and yet, they still find ways to blame everything on Republicans. These people are nothing more than delusional, hypocrits. Don't ask them to think or state facts, it just isn't going to happen.

There are many sustantive criticisms of Rick Perry. He is a fabricator of the truth. Of the jobs created, 95% of them were Government jobs (nothing to do with him)and 5% were in the private sector, many of those were minimum wage jobs with no benefits. He lied when he said that the Government did not provide aid with the wildfires. He won the election with 39% of the vote because it was a three way race. Kinky Friedman most likely got in the race just to split the votes. In other words, 61% of the people did not vote for him. Please google "Rick Perry Bilderberg Istanbul, Turkey" He should have been investigated for violation of the Logan Act.

lukewarm: What liberals? Obama and most democrats would be good republicans. There are at most 80 liberals in our government. Banks, wall street and big corporations run America. It is obvious that the own our government. They are under regulated, under taxed and totally out of control.

Outsourcing is destroying our middle class and poverty is growing; Meanwhile, our government does everything possible to aid the pigs. We are being taken directly towards depression and chaos.

You can really tell that Perry has the libbies scared

Sure -- just like we were all "scared " of Sarah Palin. Perry's record will be his downfall. I've got just a few specifics for you.

Perry's greatest accomplishments in Texas:
A 34 billion dollar budget deficit
Texas Ranks #1 in population living below the poverty line ( 17.2 % ).
•Worst environmental record in the United States
•Ranks #1 in illiteracy
•Ranks # 1 on the poorest gun regulations in the US and highest per capita gun murder rates in the US
•Ranks #1 with the highest real estate taxes per $1,000 value of a home in the United States
•Ranks #1 in the lowest high school graduation rate
•Ranks #1 with the highest interest rates “pay day” companies can charge
•Ranks # 1 in those making below minimum wage
•Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in Teacher Pay
•Ranks # 1 (26.5%) who lack health insurance
•Ranks # 1 (20.3%) of children who lack health insurance
•Ranks # 1 in the highest per capita executions in the world
•Ranks # 50th in $ spent for Medicaid for the poor and children
•Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in $ spent on its citizens
•Ranks # 1 in the # of food insecure children.
•Ranks 49th ( the 2nd lowest ) in Medicaid $ given to nursing homes
•Ranks 2nd highest in teen births
•Ranks #2 with the highest home insurance rates
•Ranks #2 with the highest sales tax
•Ranks 49th in $ funded for the mentally ill
•Ranks #1 with the highest overall pollution rate
•Ranks #1 in adults under correctional control
•Ranks #1 in adults under probation

Would you like to quit plagiarizing and give us the links to your stats. If not, you need to shut up and quit spreading lies.

now THAT's funny: the Obama team could not have DREAMED UP a better candidate if they PAID for Perry to run...this guy is an extremist joke who has no hope of winning a national election and he's showing up the one guy who does have a chance. (geez, even WALL STREET doesn't want Perry....someone who thinks the grand canyon was just formed a few thousand years ago and that head of the Fed is a "traitor" ?...yeah, lets put that guy as leader of the free world...)

Add to that record that the state deficit has increased to well over $20 billion and spending has increased by 45% since Perry became governor of TX.

The most scary about Perry is that if he get's the nomination then we will have four more years of Obama. Get your act together Republicans.

Texas economy has grown TWICE as fast as SECOND fastest state and THREE times as the THIRD.

- Texas unemployment remains 8.2% ONLY BECAUSE 735,000 people have migrated to Texas from other states to FIND A JOB. In other words, Texas has HAD to add jobs at a faster rate than the entire nation just to maintain the 8.2%.

If you take out the 735,000 people added to Texas during the recession, Texas would have a unemployment rate of just 2.3%.

So clearly, the facts show using DATA not opinion, Texas has had the fastest growing economy while increasing their median job wage to 28th of the 50 states....

Being able to add 735,000 new people competing for jobs AND increasing the median wage is nothing short of spectacular as typically the median wage would go down under such pressure...

The US under Prez-0:

Highest number of people getting food stamps.

Highest number of workers on unemployment since Carter.

Highest number of foreclosed homes.

Fastest debt accumulation of $2 trillion in History (less then 2.5 years).

First President to use class warfare - last time it was used: Lenin.

Old saying about liberals, "The only reason communism didn't work for the USSR is because we were not in charge." =0=

Real Estate taxes, no state income tax (it has to come from somewhere), insurance (home and cars), equal education or lack thereof, sales tax (8.375 %), teenage birth, hey I'm living in it. The unemployment rate is 8.4% and headed up because of the drought, bet on it. North Dakota, with a state income tax is 3.3%. Houses for auction all around me, cotton withered in the ground cattle starving. Teachers laid off. No water in our lake. The oil wealth caused a delay with our problems but you cannot drink it with any success.The great lakes states, largest freshwater supply on the planet will come back. Our population has surpassed our water supplies. What we have done in Texas (which is nothing) is about to bear fruit, bet on it!

So . . . Perry is a Texas governor who follows the Bush Doctrine. Shocking.

Charlie-1915998 I agree with you except on two points. First, Texas is the second in people under correctional control. California is first. However: California has nearly TWICE the population and only has about a 2% higher number, or a couple of thousand more people.

Second, Perry did not create those numbers, he simply maintained them and then, after piling up record deficits, cut funding for ALL rehabilitation programs to make sure they keep coming back. It was George Bush who, in is years in Austin, who had nearly 100 new prisons to be built and increased the prison population by over 400% in 6 years. Texas now has one of the most brutal prisons systems in the world and also one of the highest crime rates. So much for the Punishment Paradigm. The very sad thing is that these politicians KNOW it does not work. Read the Standford Prison Study. They have known for years.

Cheney has told Perry that he will be his VP - or else!

Curious how this aggressive foreign policy will balance the US budget

I am a combat veteran and I think most veteran are brainwashed. It's hard to admit you have been used like a puppet for big money interest. The Vietnamese let john McCain live; But, he thinks we were right in drooping napalm, using chemicals and creating 300 thousand missing in their own country; Furthermore, we should have stayed there even though these people were no threat to us in any way.

We need to do all possible to avoid war. The wisest thing we could do is bring our troops home and give them all raises. I'm sure they would be glad to defend America. We could do this and still cut our military budget in half. I never knew a man in Korean that thought he was defending our rights to talk nonsense. Most seem to think, what the hell am I doing here? Get me out of this one and I'll get my self out of the next one.

Frank, I am right with you on all counts. Same in the Nam.

Obama and NATO have destroyed Libya, a country whose citizens were far better off than their neighbors. They have reduced to rubble and beggared a nation in the name of 'humanitarian aid.'

"WE" have already spent over $800 million dollars in a "humanitarian aid" effort.
The great messiah will now borrow to rebuild what should have never been destroyed in the first place, and the taxpayers will once again get another heaping mouthful of Hopenchange.

Obama promised to get us out of Iraq & Afghanistan, we're still there, plus he added Libya & Yemen-
Syria is next....

Don't forget Somalia!

Frank Morton-2536216, I a combat vet as well but I am a combat vet who has been to Vietnam recently. When you are flying in the country from Manila during the day and, just off the coast, there has been, since the late 1970´s dozens of offshore oil rigs. THAT is why we spent those years dying there. You bet we wanted to save the south from Communism: Because the Johnson Administration, ANOTHER Texas president, knew our companies would get no access to the vast oil reserves found in the South China Sea.

The United States has not been involved in a protective, defensive war since 1945. Everyone war since then has been about OIL. Our military has been turned into the private military of big energy. When we invaded Afghanistan to "kill or capture" Bin Laden the very first troops were sent to defend the natural gas pipe line running across the country. When the only division tasked to catch Bin Ladin, the 10th Mountain, cornered him at Tora Bora, they were told to STAND DOWN. They were withdrawn and a tiny group of 39 people were given the job and even THEY were disbanded three years later.

In 1991, prior to the first Gulf War, Dick Cheney LIED to the coalition about 250,000 Iraqi troops and 1,500 tanks massing on the Saudi border, claiming to have satellite photos. When the photos were released however they showed nothing except empty SAND. In 2003 he does it AGAIN, with WMDs. Clinton was impeached for lying about a BLOW JOB but no one is investigating Cheney for lying at least twice and causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. But this is what our country has become. Frank, I was a Ranger for 12 years and have watched entire towns destroyed, woman and children slaughtered in their beds.

Forget Bush. He was a cardboard cutout. Dick Cheney, the master of the deferment,(he got FIVE), is the Mastermind and the leader is our old friend G.H.W. Bush. We spent $15 million investigating Clinton´s oral sex and $450 thousand investigating 9/11 and NOT ONE DIME investigating fake satellite photos about massed troops and tanks and Weapons of Mass Disappearance. The WM D lies were turned into a JOKE by Cheney and Bush while our sons and daughters were dying and our treasury was being looted: AND WE LET THEM. So tell me my friend, how much respect do the American people HAVE for the people who defend us.

When I was a kid I used to wonder at the motives of war protestors, people who fled to Canada. I really did not understand. If you really are a combat vet then you understand that NO ONE, not one soldier EVER survives the battlefield. No one goes out there the same person who goes in. I live it all over again every time I close my eyes, everything I go to sleep. When we take the chance of doing this to other human beings, our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, do you not think we should be in at least a LITTLE responsible? When our leaders LIE, REPEATEDLY tell lies that get our people killed and destroy entire nations, why are they not held accountable? I have a son with the 75th Rangers, right now serving in these wars who has been there for two years. When he comes home I will be the one who has to deal with what they did to his head, not Dick Cheney and George Bush, who actively AVOIDED anything like combat.

These Liberals Crack me up. How long can you blame George Bush when you have been in office almost 3 years and in 2 of them you had both a Liberal control of The House and the Senate. He has been blowing Hot air too long and needs to go home.

We need the Tea party in power to show America how it needs to be done

Have your brain examined. Trust me, you have a problem.

The excuse of blaming Bush for Obama's failures is getting old, because Bush left office over two & half years ago when Obama began running..... I mean ruining America.
The excuse is getting so old that they may have to start blaming Nixon for Obama's failures!

Carl: In case you are not aware it does take about 2 years for the previous administrations policies to wind through the economy and fizzle out. Add to the situation that we have been in the longest decline since the great depression.True of False. Did W. Bush sign into law the first bank bail out? Did that bail out not provide a way for us taxpayers to know where our money was spent? Have not the GOP stood in the way of anything that Obama has tried to do? W. Bush's policies didn't stop existing on Jan 20th 2009.

What would these Obama bashes have done to stop the half a MILLION jobs that were being lost every month? Corporations run by the 5% of the population reap multiple of millions of dollars while their support staff pay high taxes. Blame Obama for the economy being in the tank. Blame Obama for wealthy corporations that do not hire Americans. May as well blame Obama cause look the sun came up this morning. Libya is not a war that any Americans are fighting on the ground. Saddam didn't have WMD nor was the people that attacked the world trade center living in Iraq, yet the United States has spent TRILLIONS of dollars rebuilding their roads, bridges, building, and schools while ours fall apart. Lets blame the Democrats and Obama for that too, right?