Looks like our President is following his own advice. The White House is a great place to hunker down.

I guess he realizes that it does not look good to be surfing on a golf course in a hurricane.

I wouldn't want to be on Martha's Vineyard this weekend, either.

And then maybe he can go deliver a birthday cake to John McCain, like that other guy did, almost six years ago to the day.

On the meat of the matter, here's a re-post of what I wrote on a different thread a while ago:

The President is returning to Washington this evening. That's certainly good news in several ways. First, if he had waited any longer, he might well have been stuck outside of town with no good way to get in. Second, it is vital that he be involved in monitoring the hurt and damage wrought as Irene tears up the East Coast - including the seaport town where my two sons live - and participate in the relief efforts as they unfold.

This is not a political issue. It is a national issue in which the interests of all Americans are affected.

Let us hope that the preparations of the various states, and the City of New York, will have been effective.

He's out of WH, they bitched. He's heading back to WH, they'll still do the thing, bitching. Is this news?

John A.-400474This is not a political issue. It is a national issue in which the interests of all Americans are affected.

Let us hope that the preparations of the various states, and the City of New York, will have been effective.

John, Thank you for a sane, intelligent, comment. I hope your two sons will be safe.

@ dirp101

I guess he realizes that it does not look good to be surfing on a golf course in a hurricane

Have you thought about the Safety issue?

Oh, now what will the right winger vacation whiners have to complain about besides everything and anything he says or does.

There's a lot of presumption on the part of the liberals today... We aren't bitching... He was left no choice but to return. He'll make up the lost vaca day somewhere down the line.

@Beverly: he could have invited McCain, McConnell and Reid out on the course. Remember the scene from Caddy Shack with the old man having his greatest round of golf ever... until the 18th... zaap!!!!

John A: here's a re-post of what I wrote on a different thread a while ago:

Wow. Not only are the LibsRUs gang copy and pasting crap from previous months, now they're spamming the same message across different articles the same day.

John A., it's obvious that you have nothing but love and admiration for this man named Obama. You can't get enough of him it seems, and he certainly does no wrong in your star filled eyes. Also, its your right to post anything you want, no one is being critical of that, but dude, try dialing it back, just maybe a little.

Thanks.

"...spamming the same message across different articles the same day."

Well, hey, Pork- what's a matta? Imitation IS the mostest sincere form of flattery, isn't it?

dbo is John A.'s wingman, or bunk buddy. Which again buzz?

Hey JAS1 - isn't having your own pet monekey fun?

Yours is so loyal.

But the best is still the old gal's obsession with all things NOJO. Poor Feisty.

Hey JAS1 - isn't having your own pet monekey fun?

It is, until you have to clean up the lawn. All in all, it's really not worth it.

I'm figuring John A. will be blessing us with one of his snappy comebacks any moment now. But this response of his is probably a custom job, not the usual cut and paste routine he's used to doing.

Johnny's finding out that type'n is hard work.

Don't get too full of yourself Redhead. He is coming back early because he doesn't want to be on the coast when Irene comes to town. It's not because he wants to be a leader.

JAS1 aka selfish redhead

Do tell us exactly what you would know about hard work? I assure you, a few extra keystrokes hardly qualifies,...and when you factor in the BS factor you perpetuate,...again, I ask, what on earth could YOU possibly know about it?

This was his third trip to the Vineyard since he became president.

This is the third summer he has been President. He takes a week in Martha's Vineyard in the summer and goes home to Hawaii for Christmas. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Everyone needs a break, every once in a while. I sure its hard to lead this country( A WORLD SUPERPOWER), espically with him everyone is giving him crap. Im pretty sure most of you would take the whole month off.

Mr Obama has cut his vacation by 12 hours and is returning to DC. His wife however will stay one more day.... aproximately doubling the costs for an already very expensive vacation in a very expensive Martha's Vineyard! We are asked to cut spending, but the Obama's seem to think the position is like an E ticket to Disneyland!

While the liberals snipe at the Republicans, the Obama's are living like a spoiled Monarchy! Who can approve of this behavior? Bush and Reagan took vacations to their ranches and chopped wood.... the Obama's take their vacations to the most expensive locals... dining and shopping at our expense!

This will end in 2012, a little too late for the country but it will soon be over. The Republican who replaces Obama won't be treating the position like he or her is a lottery winner......!

Pride and Joy, thanks for that..... I still remember Mrs. Obama's 200 million dollar vacation in India for her kids a 120 closest friends. The country's on a beer budget and the Obama's are enjoying life on a champaign budget. Even Pelosi who used to required a 747 to travel back and forth as Speaker of the House must be impressed with the Obama's largess!

Pride and Bill, you know who wears the pants in that family! How dare you suggest she returns home 12 hours before obama, despite the hundred's of thousands of dollars that could have been saved, but instead paid by taxpayers!!

I now understand why 'elitist', is frequently used to describe liberals! Such arrogance!

Sorry Bill Thomas - I call bullsh!t & so does FACTCHECK & SNOPES.

Two leading fact checking sites vs. Bill Thomas's rumor mill... lol

This story has spread rapidly among the president's critics, but there is simply no evidence to support it. And common sense should lead anyone to doubt it. For example, the entire U.S. war effort in Afghanistan currently costs less than that — about $5.7 billion per month, according to the Congressional Research Service, or roughly $190 million per day. How could a peaceful state visit cost more than a war

The hard-to-swallow claim originated with a Nov. 2 Press Trust of Indiaarticle quoting an unnamed "top official" in the government of Maharashtra (one of India's states). The source was quoted as saying that Obama's upcoming trip to Mumbai will cost $200 million per day for security and living arrangements, among other things. The story claimed that the president would be accompanied by about 3,000 people, including Secret Service agents, government officials and journalists, and will stay at the Taj Mahal Hotel — the scene of a 2008 terrorist attack.

We find stories based on anonymous sources always deserve special caution, especially when they come from only one news organization. In this case, the anonymous official is not even in the U.S. government, and any information about costs would necessarily have come second-hand at best, an added reason for caution.

Nevertheless, the story was widely repeated without any additional reporting. Soon after the article was released, The Drudge Report — a news aggregation website — linked to the Press Trust of India article, with the headline "REPORT: US to spend $200 million per day on Obama's Mumbai visit…" Later that day, Rush Limbaugh claimed on his radio show that "Five hundred seven rooms at the Taj Mahal, 40 airplanes, $200 million a day this nation will spend on Obama's trip to India." He repeats the "$200 million a day" claim several times throughout the show without specifying its source.

The allegation has generated a great deal of Internet discourse over the past few days, including a Washington Times post that claims Obama's entourage on the trip "will spend enough to bankrupt a small nation." According to the Economic Times and The Daily Mail, Obama will take over the entire 570-room Taj Mahal Hotel for the trip. A Google search for the exact words of the original Press Trust article returned about 11,000 results. And we received about two dozen queries about it.

The White House is always reluctant to discuss cost figures about presidential trips, since the bulk of the expense is for Secret Service security. Not this time. The White House press office, which said it had been flooded with queries, gave us the following statement:

Matt Lehrich, White House Office of Media Affairs: The numbers reported in this article have no basis in reality. Due to security concerns, we are unable to outline details associated with security procedures and costs, but it's safe to say these numbers are wildly inflated.

It is always costly to move a U.S. president around the world. And in this case, the president is attending a G-20 meeting and will be accompanied by several cabinet officials. But given the dubious source of this assertion, the fact that the claimed cost exceeds the cost of a war, the flat denial by the White House and the lack of any evidence to support the claim, we'll classify this one as false.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factcheck.org%2F2010%2F11%2Fask-factcheck-trip-to-mumbai%2F&ei=-fxYTu6kOMucgQeol62eDA&usg=AFQjCNG6Oq6IsxUW-wRASnKk1SkH7b6Zpw

Here's the link to Snopes also debunking the BS!

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CC0QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2Fpolitics%2Fobama%2Findia.asp&ei=-fxYTu6kOMucgQeol62eDA&usg=AFQjCNEJ5y78w1wtb01MYMt5iLQ6IfKH8Q

Yawn, redwig... you are missing the point yet again! Take off the blinders. Prove to me that the costs of obama's expensive vacations, here and abroad, during his first term are less than Bush's vacations taken primarily at his ranch! Can't be done!

I use Bush as an example only because blaming him is the only excuse the liberals have when failing to defend Obama's record (both work and vacation record)!

Pride and Joy

Mr Obama has cut his vacation by 12 hours and is returning to DC. His wife however will stay one more day.... approximately doubling the costs for an already very expensive vacation in a very expensive Martha's Vineyard! We are asked to cut spending, but the Obama's seem to think the position is like an E ticket to Disneyland!

The Obama's took seperate flights to Martha's Vineyard. Four flights on one vacation, must be nice to have the money to pay for it. Oh wait, we are paying for it.

Yawn, redwig... you are missing the point yet again!

Bennie - Bill made outrageous claims on the Mumbai trip and I only proved him to be a LIAR!

Sorry - don't talk to me about blinders & have zero tolerance for those who intentionally distort the truth!

Thanks for playing though!

You may now resume your typical right wing spin & twists! ;o)

redwig - lmao, yet again you fail to respond to a question regarding criticism of Obama. Kinda proves my point that you can't do it, eh? Your sop is to attack any Obama opponent without regard to context or fact..... liberal dogma 'don't bother with the truth if it gets in the way of the liberal agenda'!

Forget Bill's 200m vacation thing and answer the question about Barry and Michelle's apparent disregard for controling out of control vacation costs at the taxpayer's expense...... what a hypocrity you are redwig!

FACTCHECK & SNOPES

Why don't you just ask Obama himself? Factcheck and snopes are funded by the left. Hardly a non-partisan opinion. That's right.....opinion. Did you notice they never presented the "fact" of exactly how much the trip cost? I'm not saying it cost 200 million per day because I don't know. And neither do they. They admitted as much. But, man oh man, they were quick to "dispute the Claim".

But that's the liberal MO. Ask someone who doesn't know and take their opinion as factual knowledge.....it's worked so well for Obama.

Factcheck and snopes are funded by the left. Hardly a non-partisan opinion

Please PROVE it - in the meantime, thank you for demonstrating Dirty Blogging Trick #2 straight from the Karl Rove manifesto:

Attack Attack the source. Any Liberal website or information source must be marginalized, trivialized and discounted. Let the blogosphere know that Truthout.org, thinkprogress.org,
the nation and moveon.org are Liberal rubbish propaganda. Discredit Liberal sources of information whenever possible. Confuse Challenge the Liberal position with questions,
always questions. The questions need not be relevant. The goal is to knock the Liberal poster off their game, and seize control of the narrative

Good Lord - you all are making this WAAAY to easy! lol

For those interested in the rest of the Turdblossom's manifesto you can read more here:

http://www.webster.edu/medialiteracy/journal/FINALKARLROVE.pdf

What do you mean by "prove it", simpleton?

Are you saying you don't know the sources you use? Doesn't surprise me a bit since you are about as ill-informed as they come. Here's some weekend homework for you....take time off of "worshiping" your Big O poster. Put down the KY.

Who largely funds those sites you love to cite and how do they lean politically?

Karl Rove......another boogeyman for the left. I bet you people never look under your bed. The man pretty much opposes every candidate except Romney. He really wants Jeb Bush to run.

snopes is definitely operated by a strongly left wing couple who have and will discount any negative Obama content. Coincidentally they have stayed as guests of the Obama's and contributed heavily to their 2008 campaign... and I'm sure have or will do so again. SNOPES = LIBERAL BIAS, that's a fact jack and I would bet my best wig against feisty's best wig anyday on that!!!!!!

SNOPES = LIBERAL BIAS, that's a fact jack and I would bet my best wig against feisty's best wig anyday on that

You just lost your wig Eva!

And NO we won't cry for you either! lol

Q: Is Snopes.com run by "very Democratic" proprietors? Did they lie to discredit a State Farm insurance agent who attacked Obama?

A: A chain e-mail that "exposed" Snopes contains falsehoods. And in fact, the site is run by someone who has no political party affiliation and his non-voting Canadian wife. A State Farm spokeswoman confirms what they reported about the Obama-baiting agent.

This widely circulated e-mail contains a number of false claims about the urban legend-busting Snopes.com and its proprietors, Barbara and David Mikkelson, who started the site in 1995 and still run it. They’re accused of hiding their identities, doing shoddy research, producing articles with a liberal bent and discrediting an anti-Obama State Farm agent out of partisanship.

The e-mail goes on: "Then it has been learned the Mikkelson’s are very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal," adding: "There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson’s liberalism revealing itself in their website findings." The author cites no evidence and no sources for either of these propositions.

We asked David. He told us that Barbara is a Canadian citizen, and as such isn’t allowed to vote here or contribute money to U.S. candidates. As for him, "My sole involvement in politics is on Election Day to go out and vote. I’ve never joined a party, worked for a campaign or donated money to a candidate."

"You’d be hard-pressed to find two more apolitical people," David Mikkelson said. We checked online to see if he had given money to any federal candidates, and nothing turned up. Mikkelson even faxed us a copy of his voter registration form. He asked us not to post an image of it here, but we can confirm that it shows he declined to state a party affiliation when he registered last year, and also that when he registered in 2000 he did so as a Republican.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=14&sqi=2&ved=0CGMQFjAN&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.factcheck.org%2F2009%2F04%2Fsnopescom%2F&ei=RWVZTpLnGeK0sQLn1fzQDA&usg=AFQjCNGC1eGAbDxbUCDVBGuH0poFvdvZ7g

Barnum was right - this is a sucker born every minute or in this case a couple of them! ;o)

Here's a tissue to wipe the egg off your face!

One more thing:

A Final Warning

The e-mail’s last paragraph advises that everyone who goes to Snopes.com for "the bottom line facts" should "proceed with caution." We think that’s terrific advice, not just in connection with material on Snopes but for practically anything a reader finds online — including articles on FactCheck.org. The very reason we list our sources (as does Snopes.com) and provide links is so that readers can check things out for themselves.

feisty,

in case no one told you today.....

you are one stupid partisan asswipe.

What I find particularly amusing is you posted another factcheck fact.

Factcheck.org does not even pretend that the "facts" they present are factual. They just rely on brain dead idiots like fisty to repeat them. Of course they want the user to check them. What they rely on is stupid phuks like fisty never doing so.

You do them justice.

you are one stupid partisan asswipe.

Well - now that YOU mention asswipes.. ask youself this?

As a average reader WHO are they more likely to believe?

Me WHO has posted multiple sites & sources OR a pathetic impotent tea bagging troll who wants people to take HIS word for it? lmao

Begone - little troll you are a pimple on the ass of America! ;o)

PS: Keep on practicing the turdblossem's manifesto - YOU are scoring SO many points! ;o)))

yet again you fail to respond to a question regarding criticism of Obama. Kinda proves my point that you can't do it, eh? Your sop is to attack any Obama opponent without regard to context or fact..... liberal dogma 'don't bother with the truth if it gets in the way of the liberal agenda'!

feisty, redwig - just like a teenager bully(or liberal) you continue to avoid the real questions.... !? your unwillingness to address Obama's abysmal record is very cowardly! Especially when you spend a great deal of time on this liberal sited smearing anyone (posters or candidates not of the far left) with schoolyard insults lacking in substance, fact, or relevance! Nice try, but again you wig is on way too tight!

It is true that feisty is an evasive coward when it comes to Obama, she will never debate his record because it's a losing argument! She prefers to deflect such questions with evasion.... Like her 'little thing with snopes', lol. Everyone knows by now that snopes is heavily biased towards Obama and will soft pedal any criticism directed at him. But don't tell redwig this, she'll just respond with insults against present republican candidates or will attack the poster. Consider the source.... she's just a lonely old lady with nothing going on in her life but First Read and her biased and insulting posts at the end of the day have absolutely no value in the grand scheme of things...!

It is interesting that feisty is the FIRST poster on new threads 98% of the time, and the second poster 1%+ of the time! She really must sit by her computor all day waiting to pounce on any new story that is seeded before anyone else, lol, just like the schooyard bully. Kind of sad when you think about it.... especially when her comments rarely bring any relevence or truth to the subject. But that's not her style is it?

It is interesting that feisty is the FIRST poster on new threads 98% of the time, and the second poster 1%

Okay -- I see how the game is played! lol

Toss out blatent lies and when busted on them - change the subject!

Keep on sucking on the sour grapes Eva - they suit you well! ;o)

No lies here redwig, you are are a 'serial poster' at FR...

lmao, feisty not only stives to be first to post on a thread, but has to have last word.... no matter how inane the comment might be! This is a political discussion group redwig, not a teenager's tit for tat facebook page.... come on out from under that rock and just respond to the question asked by Ben and others redwig! It is true that feisty is an evasive coward when it comes to Obama, she will never debate his record because it's a losing argument! She prefers to deflect such questions with evasion

Eva,

Thanks for acknowledging that your comment was inane. Very rare for someone from your side to admit the obvious. Thanks!

Awwwwwwwww......

I've upset the little red headed Obama swallower!!!!!

You're a sad joke on humanity bitch!

[because what else does one do during a natural disaster, get loaded!].

That explains a lot of your posts.

patHuntingtonNY:

I don't know you, but have enjoyed your comments for some time. It's good to see you are prepared. Take care.

Obama's coming back?

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Hurricane, jobs, gdp downgrade, credit downgrade, Libya, Eurpoe.

Is this a pick 6 ?

Best of luck patHuntington. NYC will get it worse than us it looks like.

I haven't bought anything much in case I lose power. Saving most of the food shopping until after the storm. Doritos (big big bag and may buy another, I'm addicted to them), canned tuna, granola bars I didn't think of! will pick up a few tomorrow. LoL.

Liquor? Can't hurt. ugh. I hate hurricanes. Hate them! That howling wind. Especially during the night. Creepy creepy creepy.

All will be saved when The Obama returns! The man is in command, of things, lots of things.

Make a nice salute when departing the helicopter Barack. I'm sure they'll be full and live coverage of that event, at least by MSDNC.

Pat -

Before the storm gets too close, you would be wise to fill your just-cleaned and well-rinsed bathtub with water, and of course maybe a couple of buckets, too. I hope you've cleared your yard of things like patio chairs, tables and big umbrellas, trash cans, and any other stuff that may be blown about - they can become battering rams to wreck your home or someone else's.

A couple of big, good coolers filled with ice is really smart, too.

If you have a lot of frozen food, consider cooking some of it that will keep, such as meats, and wrap them in airtight plastic bags or wrap, and freeze them again. They will warm up nicely on the BBQ, too, and you won't waste the food if the power goes out for a goodly time. (And if the power's out, try not to open the 'fridge much until it's time to put the milk and butter in a cooler. A full freezer will stay very cold much longer than one partially filled.)

Gas up the car alla way, and mebbe a can or two to spare. If need be, you can use it later to recharge the cell phone, or get some air conditioning if the weather's hot and the power's off.

Hope if you take any meds you have a full supply already. And for the god-forbid siutation, a well-packed traveling kit with your important personal papers wrapped in plastic inside, some of the meds, a few bottles of water and at least some crackers and cheese should be ready to grab at need.

Yeah, I've been through a number of 'canes down here in Florida, and got away from Katrina by only two hours. It truly ain't fun. Good luck.

Pat:

Good to see you on the board this afternoon. You folks in Boston may get hit pretty hard as well. Hope you have a good book and with adequate light. John A gave a good survival list. Take care my friend.

JAS1, you are simply a dismissive, useless jackass.

[JAS1, you are simply a dismissive, useless jackass.]

She's Schpanky's wingmandolt, doncha know...

I recommend you look into getting a generator, After Wilma, it took 4 weeks before they got the power restored to my abode. Cold showers suck. Good Luck.

Mickey, NY

"[JAS1, you are simply a dismissive, useless jackass.]

She's Schpanky's wingmandolt, doncha know..."

Awww....c'mon youse guys. I think they are pretty entertaining. But then again, I'd see humor in a screen-door on a submarine.

John, thanks for the advice. Stickin' with the doritoes and canned tuna and granola bars. And tons and tons of cups of tea if power stays on. I did forget about the tub! Thanks for the reminder.

Other than that, I have a few spy novels to get through before the summer ends. Let there be light! And of course keeping tabs on family members to be sure everyone is heeding all warnings. My brothers & sisters are of the old hurricane is coming mindset - let's party!!!! mold.

Not any longer. These things are serious.

Hey Ron! Nice to see you too!!!!

I've noticed lately repeated posting has been on the rise by certain right-wing participants--two, sometimes three posts in a row. Either it's desperation or compulsive disorder, but I have to scroll past a lot more it seems.

John A: With 8 simple words you scored a touchdown.

Pat, and TP, I think that FR at times seems to freeze up, and it appears you haven't succeeded with a post, so you try again ... and suddenly ... you're seeing double or triple.

Thanks for all the advice. One really good thing is that I do not live in a flood zone, I live on very high ground, and there aren't any big old trees in striking distance of my house.

patHuntingtonNY

I love having soup for breakfast.

Stay safe,

if you board up the windows, use screws and a drill, not nails.

I love having soup for breakfast.

I'm a fan of left over pizza - even if it's cold! ;o)

Pat and Pat, and any others in the path--stay safe. We'll be thinking of you.

Shame on you, JoAnna-

How quickly we forget.

Remember the Obama Administration's sure-handed, adroitly executed response to the Gulf oil spill?

Why would anyone expect the Administration's response to Irene to be any less brilliant?

I certainly wouldn't.

Yeah, no, Obama should just take a page from your guy's book and deliver a birthday cake to McCain.

Spanky-

Obama's coming back?

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Spanky, awesome isn't darling? He played golf, bicycled, took his beautiful wife out to dinner, and handled Libya.

Look Spanky, President wasn't clearing brush on his vacation like Georgie boy; he was clearing Dictators.

http://obamadiary.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mg_3728.jpg?w=655&h=368

President Barack Obama talks on the phone with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, in Chilmark, Mass., Aug. 23. White House Photo by Pete Souza

But the right wing and you will distort the and say the President is the blame for the slowing economy" on the recent natural distortions of mother nature.

Clearly you did not read page 4 of the S&P report which said the minority in Congress (that be the T-baggers) is the blame. Have you not seen this...?

Americans are plenty angry at Congress in the aftermath of the debt crisis and Republicans could pay the greatest price, a new Associated Press-GfK poll suggests.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=14381711

Okay, darling you can go back to your silliness now.

Pat in NY and Pat in MA: don't be afraid to leave. Your better off to come back to nothing, than to stick around and be hurt, or worse, expelled. (Sorry, my daught is a Potter fan & rewatched all the movies for the 4th time this week.)

Good luck and stay safe.

dbo,

[I think they are pretty entertaining. But then again, I'd see humor in a screen-door on a submarine.]

"Entertaining" isn't the word...paranoid-delusional is more like it. Schpanky isn't even bothering to explain any of his emotional, ideological posts anymore...but NoJoBloMo, wca, and smiffy eat that crap up...

"Make a nice salute when departing the helicopter Barack. I'm sure they'll be full and live coverage of that event, at least by MSDNC."

"

[because what else does one do during a natural disaster, get loaded!].

That explains a lot of your posts."

Neat posts, Pork. Keep 'em coming.l

Mixed Bag - Why would anyone expect the Administration's response to Irene to be any less brilliant?

MB, haven't seen you post in a while. I guess you were saving up for this post. Back to criticizing Obama and the administration about the oil spill that they didn't create, so 2010. Shakes head. You do know that a monster of a storm is hitting and will affect millions of Americans. I hope the federal, state and local responses can jive better than they did in Katrina.

I would think that on non political issues like this people would know that sometimes it is better to be quiet in lieu of trying to throw in an anti Obama slam.

Regarding expectations, I expect that this administration will not non chalantly do a fly over if there are God forbid heavily damaged/flooded areas.

[Why would anyone expect the Administration's response to Irene to be any less brilliant?]

Well, after all...fear and anxiety is what the conservative strives for...

...no turmoil, no happiness...or depression...which conservatives mistake for happiness...

We consider evidence for and against the hypotheses that political conservatism
is significantly associated with (1)mental rigidity and closed-mindedness,
including (a) increased dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity, (b) decreased
cognitive complexity, (c) decreased openness to experience, (d)
uncertainty avoidance, (e) personal needs for order and structure, and (f)
need for cognitive closure; (2) lowered self-esteem; (3) fear, anger,
and aggression; (4) pessimism, disgust, and contempt; (5) loss prevention;(6)
fear of death; (7) threat arising from social and economic deprivation; and (8)
threat to the stability of the social system.

But in a more serious note, it seems even the lowest of the low are here to make light of a serious issue...a hurricane bearing down on millions of people...just like the lowest of the low used Tuesday's earthquake...pathetic, really...

Hi, Mark.

I don't "save-up" my remarks.

I weigh in when I believe it's appropriate.

First Read is hardly a warm "host" environment for one with my political views, is it , Mark?

Anyway...

Did George W. Bush "create" Hurricane Katrina?

Hardly.

So...

We're left to deal with his Administration's response to it.

Hurricanes Katrina and Irene are both forces of nature.

The Gulf oil spill?

Not so much.

I'm surprised that you're happy with the Obama Administration's response to the oil spill in the Gulf.

If you are somehow pleased, you're also likely to be pleased with the Administration's response to Irene...whatever it is.

That said...

You really liked how they handled the Gulf oil spill, Mark?

Really?

That surprises me.

Hi Mixed Bag,

I'm glad to see that you feel this topic was appropriate to weigh in on. Whether in jest, and I don't believe you did make light of the situation, perhaps you just had to get in a shot at Obama.

To the oil spill, I believe Obama handled the situation right by forcing BP to pay for damages that they created and the Pres. created a compensation fund for their victims. How is it the administration's fault that the self appointed experts in deep sea drilling couldn't fix the leaks for months and months and months. Besides how is it that a person with your philosophy would expect government to be capable to do anything anyway.

MB - First Read is hardly a warm "host" environment for one with my political views, is it , Mark?

We have something in common as I've noticed how some of my comments are received by my fellow liberals. Despite that I will continue to comment and suggest you do as well.

Just want to wish all posters well that are in line of Irene. I think the post that John A wrote is important to make sure you are safe. Personally I would get the heck out of the way and evacuate now.

"Good Night Irene"

The right obviously has nothing to say.

Instead, they counter-argue, attempt to change the subject. Right out of the playbook...

Thanks, Mark.

My comments about the Obama Administration's response to last year's Gulf oil spill refer primarily to the prompt deployment of the federal government's resources in addressing that crisis.

I don't think the federal government's response to the Gulf oil spill was prompt or well-organized at all.

That view would have applied to any Administration.

Nor am I alone in my opinion, regardless of political persuasion.

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow offered on-site criticism, often scathing, of the Obama Administration's efforts to address the oil THEY KNEW would be moving onshore along the Gulf Coast.

I don't often agree with Maddow, but her evaluation of the performance of the federal government in the Gulf spill was quite accurate.

Hopefully, they'll do better with Irene.

They've had advance warning in both cases.

Nice talking to you, Mark.

MB: couldn't agree more. The inaction in response to the oil spill was abysmal. I do hope the response to Irene is better, although it is harder to predict exactly where a hurricane will hit.

To the oil spill, I believe Obama handled the situation right by forcing BP to pay for damages that they created

BP said they would cover all damages before the Big O said anything. If you think O "handled" the oil spill I hope you're a felon unable to vote.

Today it looks like Irene is weakening. Hopefully, Pat, the worst you'll experience is a hangover headache from drinking too much. Good luck.

The Obama administration's reaction to the BP oil spill was all that it could, in any practical way, be. None of you critics of the government response have ever put forth a suggestion which would have made any significant difference in the outcome of the private OIL industry's failure to prevent or react appropriately to their own failures and negligence. All you do is b!tch, without ever stating what, you think, should or could have been done to limit the damages.

pat - With the storm approaching, please be safe and secure this weekend. We'll all be thinking about you.

Godspeed.

Wow Pat calling someone else out on being vile, now that is irony at its best based on your comments I have seen to others. That aside I still hope you are safe. I have lots of friends in NY and my brother is in Wilmington.

ksw62118

Wow Pat calling someone else out on being vile, now that is irony at its best based on your comments I have seen to others. That aside I still hope you are safe. I have lots of friends in NY and my brother is in Wilmington.

That's a lie and you know it. I have not read anything vile from her. Pat is very mild mannered and respect worthy. However, it is nice of you to show concern for her safety.

her safety

Umm Bev GF - Pat is a he...

He's also a long time poster, originally he was a Hillary supporter during the 2008 primary but when Obama won the nomination he was immediately on board!

Unlike that freak J. Merle Stanley! ;o)

Well Bev hate to burst your little bubble there but every other day he is calling someone a whore. I don't call that respect worthy even if you don't agree with what the other posters are saying. Just go back and look at some of his posts.

I do not however wish harm on people whose political ideals are different than mine.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

her safety

Umm Bev GF - Pat is a he...

I remember how we always tried to convince him he was was wrong.

I'm confused now one of the Pat's is in the LBGT community. I always thought it to be the one with the girls Which Pat is it?

Forgive me Pat, if I'm exposing you. I hope you don't mind since you told us a long time ago.

I'm confused now one of the Pat's is in the LBGT community.

That would be this Pat, Bev - I don't think he minds as he's never made it his sexuality a secret!

It to be expected ksw.

Impotent rage.

In fact they can neither help nor control themselves.

Of course Bev. didn't see pat call all conservatives @!$%#s, and worse. Bev., like Feisty and the rest only see what they want to see.

It's why evry single month the jobless claims are "unexpected."

Unexpected only if you have had yur head in a hole for the last three years.

Spankster and Greedy (the only biz you most likely ever owned was a stall at the swap meet)..Lest you forget, the cause of the unemployment rate was Wall Street CDO's and CDS's. Adding fuel to the fire were 2 wars and an unfunded drug plan..Strange that you cannot provide any objective evidence that the pres was responsible. Speaking of holes..seems as though you both suffer from a bad case of cranial rectal insertion disease for which in both your cases there is no cure.

[Impotent rage.]

Yeah, you know it when you see it, right "counselor"?

You can recognize it by your emotional and ideological responses to a situation you obviously cannot control, and that irritates you.

Torp is mixing up the debt, deficit and unemployment. They are all interrelated, but the real reason for domestic unemployment is unfair trade agreements with foreign counrties and their plutocracies.

Are any of you aware that it is part of our Federal Reserve Bank's CHARTER responsibilities to keep domestic unemployment low, and support only fiscal policies which result in that end?

They are failing at that, miserably.

Let's see how many in Congress show up tonight!

Oh wait, they're not due back until September 7th, right? Whatever, mister "mystified".

There is much you are missing by this pettiness.

Clara KCMO-

How are things in Kansas City? Would you please share what I am missing by my pettiness. Thanks in advance for your effort.

Tom 'Mysti' Fied,

Things in KC are AWESOME, I am here to report.

I don't think you're missing anything with your pettiness, in fact I'd say you hit most of the current talking points. Im going to have to deduct some points for failing to mention teleprompter, socialist, muslim; but overall, an outstanding recitation of Rush's show today.

I think the President is entitled to some relaxation. He has a young family and he does an excellent job of being an active parent as well as balancing his work. It is obvious that the Presidency can be managed from the air (George W Bush = 9/11) or Camp David or even a vacation hotspot. So insinuating that he was shirking his duty to the citizens of our country by trying to get in some R&R with the family is, well, petty.

By not holding the OTHER branches of government to the same EXACTING standard, well I guess I'm sure that was an oversight on your part. Perhaps you meant to circle back to that point? I'll certainly read your thoughts on ALL branches of government and whether or not they, too, deserve vacation time. I assure you their five weeks off FAR exceed anything President Obama has been able to take.

PS. While W cleared brush on his vacations, Obama clears dictators,...LOL (that joke's still not old for me, yet.

Fair enough. The irony is that I do not listen to Rush, apparently you do. What does that say about our perspectives. Defensive perhaps. In any case, enjoy your weekend. Have a great day in Kansas City.

Re-read my above post (and so did my wife) and decided to modify a little. My daughters (with husbands) and granddaughters are welcome to come home if they get scared...

Okay, honey, is that better?

Just Saying...

Hopefully, you have a generator, a good dvd player, lots of movies and some popcorn too. Stay safe. Playing at politics on the vine is fun, knowing your neighbor (even one thousands of miles away) is safe is even better.

dirp101...

Have a 12 hp Honda, 8500 watt generator with a 12 gal tank that will last for 11 hours without a refill. Also have three 5 gal cans of gas so I should be good to go. However, if I run out of gas, my neighbor has a 250 gas tank that I can mooch from (of course I will pay dearly later).

As long as my bride can use the bathroom and brush her teeth, she is good to go, otherwise, she will be heading to the nearest Holiday Inn. I can run 11 out of 19 circuits in my home with the generator.

Just Saying...

...is ur powder dry...? I mean...you got guns, right? What about the guns, man?

You know...for when those "lefty libruls" come to take what you got...

...just sayin'...

Mickey....

My powder is ALWAYS dry ! Never know when lunch or dinner will show up in my back yard. Damn deer and turkey are just thick and are almost like domestic dogs around here and are so destructive (not the turkeys). We have 11 homes on 147 acres and some have had to purchase extra freezers just to keep all the deer meat. Now the damn deer are having triplets.... We must have 150 deer just in our neighborhood.

As far as the leftys - well I guess that they just know better, actually no one could be that stupid. There is probably enough guns in my neighborhood to hold off an army for quite awhile.

Good and tasty...

Just Saying...

[Now the damn deer are having triplets.... ]

I've seen triplets here as well,...second round of births are rare too, but not unheard of...mostly due to the harshness of last winter thinned the herd here quite a bit, and they are making up for lost time.

I like venison, but do not hunt...but it sucks when they starve over the winters.

...glad to hear your powder's dry... ;)

One for the fridge, one for the microwave, one for the tv/dvd player, one for the internet connection, you're good to go there TPFan....

With the triplets, Maybe good old mother nature knew something was comin' and put out lots of extras just in case.

the "Good and tasty..." you referring to bambie & bros. or lefty's ? LOL...

Good luck & be safe.

The HNIC wouldn't recognize a job if it walkeed up and bit him on the backside...after all, he just won't do the only job he's ever had.