Well I knew Jesus had a Superpac I just didn't know Perry had one.

Good point, Forrest Grump, and Congrats on being first!!

As for the Greedy Frosty Alaskan, he's just jealous that he couldn't go to Martha's Vineyard.

Hey fellas - isn't Jesus the ultimate "super Pac?"

Dudes been pulling in the coin for thousands of years. Pope as well.

Butit is a great question. Me I'm loving all the inquiry we are getting thos election. Very different than last time.

Good news is for every question about super pac, religion, tax policy that are asked of Republican candidate A, B and C, the automatic thought process goes to Obama.

I do have to say the fascination with the money escapes me. New flash - the politicians on all sides will roll in ridiculous amounts of cash. It the way it is, the way it has always been, and the way it will always be.

Frosted Flakes are great, Coke Zero is tasty, but advertising is what it is, and no substitute for actual thought and research.

Forrest Grump

Are Texas preachers using the donations of parishioners for political campaigns? Because if they are I think they are violating several laws and should lose any tax exempt status they have.

Wow first time I was first!

Forrest Grump,

It looks like it. Wherever David Barton is I smell a "rat".

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/BartonFalsifiesAmericanHistory.html

The Justice Department is being asked to investigate a mysterious $1 million contribution to a Super PAC supporting Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign. Two campaign reform groups say the contribution from a company that shut down shortly after making the donation is highly suspicious. Fred Wertheimer, the president of Democracy 21, said the contribution was “blatantly” designed to circumvent campaign disclosure laws.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/05/288844/morning-briefing-august-5-2011/

It is illegal under federal law for political donors to make contributions in the name of another person – so called “straw donors” -- and such violations have been vigorously prosecuted by the Justice Department in the past, according to campaign finance experts

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44027203/ns/politics-decision_2012/#.Tla9ebLlbPZ

'Independent'? Maybe, but super PAC heavily backs Perry

Madison - Neither Supreme Court Justice David Prosser nor fellow Justice Ann Walsh Bradley will face criminal charges for a June altercation that broke out as the judges were considering Gov. Scott Walker's union bargaining law, a special prosecutor has determined.

Source: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/128389748.html

Poor Annie Molly. She bet the farm on this one panning out. Now she'll go on about this with her conspiracy theories for a few weeks.

Congrats Forrest on being first! Now tell me how you did that so I can try it too... LOL.

I think a lot of this donor crap is just that... crap. Obama will get buttloads of money for his campaign... the republican candidate will get buttloads of money for their campaign. This is like saying my father is stronger than your father... The democrats are reaching for straws... anything that sounds good is what they are sticking with.

The reason the liberals are on such a roll is because there's no news coming out about Obama right now... he's eating lobster and crab while sucking up suds in Martha's. It seems FR has nothing better to do than post republican candidate stories... because nothing is happening on the democrat front. Congress is out of session... Bama's on vaca... so focus in on the republicans...

Every story about Perry... the religious nut.... every story about Romney, the religious nut... every story about Bachman, the Tea Party witch... all of them result in the same sort of comments... this actually is getting quite boring First Read... Can't you dig in your archives and come up with something about Reagan... At least the liberals will have a new slant to go on... reading their same tired old rants and raves is getting old... This truly is the summer doldrums.

All the time, I'm asking. Everywhere I go I'm asking - on street corners, while I'm driving, when I'm eating.

I ask, "Hey God, who's your favorite candidate?"

This is what he says, ".................."

David Walker - Lastly, show me where President Obama EVER called George Bush unpatriotic. EVER!

David - here is your proof that Obama called Bush unpatriotic. (and in a way, he is now calling himself unpatriotic.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUaF5spn6fg

Isn't you tube the best.

Created in 2005, this will be the first time everything the candidates have said for a considerable period is on the record, verifiable by anyone with a computer, cell phone, IPAD.

Obama said a lot of very interesting things as a candidate that now will bite him in the ass.

The "unpatriotic to incur $4trillion in debt" is but one example.

And not "in a way" John - Obama in 2008 has flat called this Obama out, on a wide array of issues.

Congrats Forrest on being first! Now tell me how you did that so I can try it too... LOL.

Just send 19.95 to the DDI.

Jump out to the front page of the Politics page. Read the approval of congress poll story.

Neat, huh? Raise taxes. Get your asses in gear. Tea Party bites.

Kinetic Concepts Inc.

Forrest, Bev,

Perry private meeting with the religious conservatives is very interesting. David Barton the founder of Wall Builders is a self proclaimed historian. He makes his living on his books, lectures etc about the religious views of the founding fathers. Barton has a BA in Religious Studies from Oral Roberts University. He is a on-line lecturer for Glenn Beck.Barton was also head pf the Texas Republican Committee.

Barto's first inquiry and conclusion was that prayer was banned in public schools resulted in the direct rise in alcohol consumption and crime rate.

He is on the Board of Directors of Providence foundation. This outfit is a "Christian Constructionist" group that promotes the idea that biblical law should be instituted in the U.S.

Why all the interest in the Repub candidates religious ties? Because they not only profess a Christian faith but more importantly surround themselves with organizations with a very specific agenda to bridge any separation of church and state . Their goal is to use political office for their religious agendas.

Other poster talking about happy hour just proves old Barton's first historcial premise. Drinking at 5pm is the direct result of not having prayer in the classroom everyday! :)

"Obama in 2008 has flat called this Obama out, on a wide array of issues."

It would seem so, on the surface.

But, the dynamic changed after that, and has required more from this capable man then very, very , many, can barely imagine.

I think Obama is way ahead of the curve.

Fortunately and hopefully for another term.

John, Tucson:

I am always suspicious about clips that end in the fashion this one did. I can't help but think it was taken out of context. However, there is no doubt that President Obama called the borrowing irresponsible and unpatriotic.

He is incorrect on both counts. Borrowing was - and remains - a necessity. As a matter of fact, it would have been rather irresponsible and unpatriotic NOT to borrow. You have to pay your bills.

I would like my President to be correct all the time. He's not.

I think Obama is way ahead of the curve.

Most others think he's gone around the bend.

You have to remember that bush was borrowing not only for the wars but the tax cuts so they wouldn't have to raise taxes on the rich.

I think our country having to borrow money to give the rich tax cuts they don't need is about as unpatriotic as it gets.

Is it any surprise? Several studies show why. This from the Pew Research Center:

But the precise nature of the Tea Party has been less clear. Is it solely a movement to reduce the size of government and cut taxes, as its name -- some people refer to it as the Taxed Enough Already party -- implies? Or do its supporters share a broader set of conservative positions on social as well as economic issues? Does the movement draw support across the religious spectrum? Or has the religious right "taken over" the Tea Party, as some commentators have suggested?¹

A new analysis by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life finds that Tea Party supporters tend to have conservative opinions not just about economic matters, but also about social issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage. In addition, they are much more likely than registered voters as a whole to say that their religion is the most important factor in determining their opinions on these social issues.² And they draw disproportionate support from the ranks of white evangelical Protestants.

This from the American Sociological Association:

The analysis shows that most people who agree with the religious right also support the Tea Party. But support for the Tea Party is not synonymous with support for the religious right.

Tea party voters are more likely to fear change and harbor negative attitudes toward immigrants, according to a study presented Monday at the American Sociological Association's annual conference in Las Vegas.

The study, called "Cultures of the Tea Party," also claims voters who felt favorably toward the tea party movement valued deference to authority and libertarianism. The report concludes that the tea party movement is not a new political phenomenon, but rather "is best understood as a new cultural expression of the late-20th-century Republican Party."

This from a Harvard/Notre Dame study:

"Our analysis casts doubt on the Tea Party’s “origin story.” Early on, Tea Partiers were often described as nonpartisan political neophytes. Actually, the Tea Party’s supporters today were highly partisan Republicans long before the Tea Party was born, and were more likely than others to have contacted government officials. In fact, past Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of Tea Party support today.

What’s more, contrary to some accounts, the Tea Party is not a creature of the Great Recession. Many Americans have suffered in the last four years, but they are no more likely than anyone else to support the Tea Party. And while the public image of the Tea Party focuses on a desire to shrink government, concern over big government is hardly the only or even the most important predictor of Tea Party support among voters.

So what do Tea Partiers have in common? They are overwhelmingly white, but even compared to other white Republicans, they had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president, and they still do.

More important, they were disproportionately social conservatives in 2006 — opposing abortion, for example — and still are today.

All the studies conclude that the Tea Party is and always has been a small minority in the Republican Party who want more religion, not just less government. If you too feel Separation of Church and State is a bad thing, than Perry is for you.

TP, Thank you for the post. I was struck by the phrase "More tea party voters fear change..." Change and major upheaval is what this economy has experienced since 2008. And when the Us economy does rebound it will not be the same. We now live a truly global transference of wealth, power.

My puzzlement is that those who are afraid of change and it impact on ordinary citizens blame the government. It is the government as an institution that can continue its commitment to make sure the benefits of retirement SS, health care can be available for all. The tea party has a romantic vision of sometime in the past when all was well and government was in its place. I understand their fear leads them to seek absolute truth in their religious communities.

But the fear of the stranger, the alien ,the other is beneath their rhetoric about liberty, the constitution. I do think their unreasonable hatred of Obama is a result of their fear. One always needs a scapegoat in these situations.

2012 rocks.

I am totally going to rock some Rush on the way home tonight.

Today's Tom Sawyer is a ...

Spanky-

2012 rocks.

I am totally going to rock some Rush on the way home tonight.

Today's Tom Sawyer is a ...

Tom Sawyer is what Spanky; a phony, condescending, slob like you with proclivities to fantasize about forays into capitalist utopia?

You needed worry then as long as it's a pipe dream; it's solid as a rock my friend.

President Obama gets the job done. He doesn't dream.

Obama 2012

[2012 rocks.]

...the album is "2112", and the song "Faithless" (which the line Da Noid outlined above is from) isn't on 2112, its' on Snakes and Arrows...

...go back to listening to L.L.Cool J Little Dude...

[Today's Tom Sawyer is a ...]

EPIC FAIL...Tom Sawyer is on the Moving Pictures album..., not on "2012"...

...always striving for mediocrity, eh Schpanky?

Rush is a big fat racist, pompous hypocrite. No wonder he supports Perry!

Dubya and Perry - Dumb and Dumber

Bev - you know I love you, but mine was a reference to a rock song by a band called Rush.

Tom Sawyer is the name of a song they sing.

I cannot decipher the rest of you comment. Are the meds effecting your cognitive abilities? I am not making fun, just concerned.

You didn't know? Spanky shares a favorite group from those Super Seventies with No Jo and Smiffie: The........SPINNERS!

(could it be he's falling in loooove....)

Wow Drive By you say that like songs from the seventies it's are bad thing.

There are many songs from the seventies I love. From Zepplin, early AC/DC, plus all those terrific disco songs.

You know like Feisty - you know she's a brick HOUSE.

Spanky-

Bev - you know I love you, but mine was a reference to a rock song by a band called Rush.

Tom Sawyer is the name of a song they sing.

Well you got me. See, I admit when I don't know something. I learned something new today. The world would be a better place if the righties would do the same; instead of posturing and pulling non facts out of whatever orfice.

Not a problem Bev.

I hope you are feeling better.

I was very sad to read you are just trying to hold on until next years Libs r us gathering.

I hope that's not true.

Greatest Rush Album? "Caress of Steel" baby!

@Spanky, Tom Sawyer is a song they sing? Are you five? They are a three piece rock band; They play Tom Sawyer...not sing it. New Kids on the Block sing songs.

And keep Rush out of this. You couldn't get a single thing about them correct.

Viva Caress of Steele!

Spanky "Brickhouse" is Funk not Disco. Man do yourself a favor when your down there on vacation and don't be the white guy on the dance floor trying to do the Hustle to "Brickhouse", if you spaz out like that Mrs. Spanky might pretend she doesn't even know you. If they play Brickhouse just go out there and pretend like your having sex standing up, that is how you dance to Brickhouse. You worry me sometimes Spanky.

The snakes will be in the gift bags!

The snakes will be in the gift bags!

LMAO!

Along with the bibles & guns...

and speaking of snakes.....where is Eric of Virginia?

Even the Navy is sending the ships out to sea away from Irene......Eric will probably ride Irene out!

Eric doesn't have enough shorts to ride out Irene.

Feisty:

A spokesperson for Leininger said that he is traveling and is not available to comment to the press. A spokesman for the Perry campaign could not be reached for comment

Veery interesting - this needs to be followed up on...

Why Feisty, because a couple of guys couldn't be reached? Somebody following up on every donor to Obama's campaign?

If only your guy had a record to run on, you all wouldn't have to spend so much time trying to tear down everyone else.

"If only your guy had a record to run on, you all wouldn't have to spend so much time trying to tear down everyone else."

Does 'opposite day' fall on a Thursdy this month? I need an updated calendar.

OK DBO, tell me, why does this story need to be followed up on, as Feisty has said?

I think Jesus would be pissed at Perry and his snake oil salesman evangelist Rick Scarborough. It's called using the name of God to screw the American People.

Hey there Drive By - I answered your question about the Rove qoute back on the earlier thread.

Yet I note there was no response from you. Huh? YOu remember the one about all the professions that "cross examine" to elicit a detailed response - doctors, lawyers, police, teachers, business people...

I hope it was instructive. Your welcome.

What the hell are you rambling on about agian?? Teachers? Business People?? Oh, yeah- my plumber didn't ask "what did your kid put down there", he 'cross eximined' me. *doink*

BTW- you seem to assume I went back and read an earlier thread. Why would a smart guy like you assume anything, 'counselor'?

Can't say I'm very surprised - I'd want to run from that one too if I were you.

Nice job adding the assumption part. I like it.

But I can see how you'd want to refer to plumbers. I suspect that's a lot easier for someone like you to understand.

Carry on my man.

chilled

and speaking of snakes.....where is Eric of Virginia?

Even the Navy is sending the ships out to sea away from Irene......Eric will probably ride Irene out!

Eric of Virginia is in hiding dodging an alien attack.

Fox Viewers Overwhelmingly Think We Should Prepare For Alien Invasion Before Fighting Climate Change

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/08/19/300061/fox-poll-climate-change-aliens/

That's why Cantor Says No Earthquake Disaster Relief For His Home State

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/25/304204/cantor-earthquake/

[and speaking of snakes.....where is Eric of Virginia?]

It seems creepy Eric doesn't think the Government is broke after all:

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor assured his constituents on Wednesday that
Congress "will find the monies" to assist earthquake victims in Mineral,
Virginia - but the Republican lawmaker noted that "those monies will be offset
with appropriate savings or cost-cutting elsewhere."

Offsets...OFFSETS? Really? Is this what the GOP/Tea Party calls "poor people"?

Kind of odd coming from a state which is considered a "welfare state"...you know...a state that receives more federal money than federal taxes paid, per capita...

WHOA! Finnaly got back to the 'reply' spank was talking about on another thread. Seems like Rove (or anyone else) telling someone how to obfucscate, or outright lie is equivalent to probing for facts. The cop asking 'where were you' is asking for facts. Telling someone how to cause confusion or obstruction for someone else in their efforts to state or illustrate facts is not. Spank seems to fall right into the description that was 'cut-and'pasted' in my post. Joanna seems to fall right in line there with him, right on cue, and exactly as the Rove Manifesto says to.

Yeah, I'M impressed.

'Counselor'.

Glad to hear it.

But I suspect you got my point - what you call "obfuscate" can also be consider a questioning technique employed by a wide array of professionals.

In fact maybe that's your disconnect - the professional part.

See when to cop asks and get a response he does not find satisfactory, he asks follow up questions, just as a doctor, lawyer, and even your accountant often does.

To put it another way - answering questions should be neither difficult or confusing to somebody who understands the subject. Problem is, when you don't, cause you only just read it on ThinkProgress then you cannot respond to any follow up questions.

Again - good job highlighting the basic problem with many libbies around here - they just don't know what they don't know.

That's why we get the Jody and Amy's trying to discuss taxation and tax policy. They have no clue and have never read the IRC.

Feisty talks smack about jobs, but has never created a job, run a business, or had to make payroll.

Others jabber on about regulations, but have never had to deal with OSHA, CAL-Osha, or a municipality over even so much as a business license.

And that Drive By is why O love you guys. You all make it super fun.

Now off you go, time to punch out. Go get you some Hannity.

[Seems like Rove (or anyone else) telling someone how to obfucscate, or outright lie is equivalent to probing for facts.]

Well, scumbag lawyers do it all the time...coaching, right "counselor"?

[Joanna seems to fall right in line there with him {Little Dude}, right on cue...]

Hmmm...seems there is a pattern that has developed here. Oh, you can add NoJoBloMo in with that crowd as well...

...speaking of gold...how's that working for you, "counselor"? Seems its tanking...gee, bruh...I hope your broker likes you...you just may get a busy signal...better try the line again...

Bev,

That link about Eric of Virginia and his comments about offsets .....absolutely stunning. He has said thing like that before....silly me, I thought he would become more compassionate especially when it involves a natural disaster in his own district!

...but it was telling that he returned from his trip to Israel to address the earthquake situation. Does he have constitutients in Israel?

Seems like Ole Spanky can't Defend his Own line of Defense.

Mickey,NY has OWNED You Spanky for the better part of 2 month's, without a single Response from Ya.

Whazzzup with That Spanky?

Run Spanky Run!

[Seems like Ole Spanky can't Defend his Own line of Defense.]

Well, Conservatism IS a mental illness, after all...so the study concludes...

Well, Conservatism IS a mental illness, after all...so the study concludes...

So is ODS = Obama Derangement Syndrome of which there is NO known cure.

Just look at the NJ nut job, smiffy, the idiot from albany & sparky, etc...

Doing just fine here Rick. In fact back from a nice little happy hour.

I respond to those that merit a response. Like to you. But fear not my Appalachian friend, I run at the mouth all day long.

In fact, I ask where you been lately? Kinda been scare round these parts.

Bye the way - it is sad to see Drive By has yet again failed to respond.

Just no there, there.

What study would that be Micky?

Um, Amy? If you read the article- you do.

See, you just told us the church to which you belong.

Earlier this week, you told us you were donating to Obama.

Voilà! You have just put yourself in the box you tried to put Perry supporter in!

See, the article mentions "evangelical supporters" meeting at the ranch of another supporter.

Not a church.

People who attend church have the right to support political candidates. You know that, because , as you stated, you belong to a church, and you support Obama.

So, tell me, is it that you think churchgoers should only support Democrats, or is it only Obama who should get their donations?

Kudos NJNB

My United Church of Christ minister did not tell me to vote for Barack Obama, get the diff?

Churches are old school Jesus has a Superpac now, no more competition for donations between rival factions of Christianity, we are all under one big SuperPac now, it is the smartest political move Jesus could have made, its genius, Jesus runs the kind of campaign you would expect of a God.

These are the people that want to bring the constitution to you, you know, God willing and all.

Can you point out where in this article it states their church told them to vote for Perry? I think you are trying to draw that conclusion on your own Amy.

NJNB, That. Was. Awesome.

What gets me is these Christian leaders endorsing politicians who do not embrace the Bible's teachings about charity, taking care of the least among us simply because somewhere in the decades, the GOP convinced them they are the party of family values and the true believers. Nothing worse than a pretender of faith.

No Joe, that's twisted reasoning.

Amy, good response!

I asked myself, what the heck is Wall Builders?

WallBuilders is an organization dedicated to presenting America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on the moral, religious, and constitutional foundation on which America was built – a foundation which, in recent years, has been seriously attacked and undermined. In accord with what was so accurately stated by George Washington, we believe that "the propitious [favorable] smiles of heaven can never be expected on a nation which disregards the eternal rules of order and right which heaven itself has ordained.

What the hell does this mean?

http://wallbuilders.com/ABTOverview.asp

Stop picking on Amy. She clearly does not understand.

Poor amy.

Love Amy's response when faced with logic or facts, change the subject..... How precious.

Hey Jody - isn't america and freedom of religion great?

You are free to totally ignore all of the people and beliefs you don't like.

Awesome, right?

ksw - remember Amy is often and easily distracted by the phone which just keeps ringing.

Seriously being the receptionist is hard - I always screw it up when I fill in.

Uh Amy....From the Cleveland Plain Dealer 2009:

When it comes to hot-button political issues, the United Church of Christ is anything but wishy-washy.

Its new general minister and president, the Rev. Geoffrey Black, last month hand-delivered 17,000 petition signatures to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, urging health-care reform -- including coverage for all and access regardless of ability to pay.

Its outgoing president, the Rev. John Thomas, was arrested at the White House two years ago, trying to deliver 100,000 petition signatures against the war in Iraq.

"The church has a long tradition of being involved in the large public issues of the day," said Thomas, 59, of Shaker Heights. "Going back to the 19th century, we supported women's rights and the abolitionist movement. Today, we've been active in issues ranging from rights for gays and lesbians to ending the war in Iraq."

And who is Rick Scarborough?

Dr. Rick Scarborough, D Min.
Founder and President of Vision America

He trains "Patriot Pastors" how to fight President Barack Obama.

Across the State of New Mexico, in a continuing effort to educate Value Voters and Patriot Pastors Vision America held six Pastor Policy briefings in Albuquerque, Hobbs

Good to know:

Rick Scarborough’s second book, “Liberalism Kills Kids,” published in March. Now in its second printing, this groundbreaking work describes the disastrous effects of 40 years of toxic liberalism on children

http://www.visionamerica.us/success-stories/

Great! Let's have a religious war!

FIGHT! FIGHT!

One's an evagelical,

The other one's right!

And who is Southern Baptist Paul Pressler? Why, a pastor who moonlights as a political stragiest!

Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson picked up a rare endorsement from a religious leader--a Southern Baptist layman credited with rescuing the nation's second largest faith group from what he and others viewed as a liberal drift.

Pressler described Thompson as "the consistent conservative" in the presidential race and "the most electable" of the Republican candidates.

http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php?viewStory=12002

Here is the deal, no contribution should ever be affiliated with any church ever. Anybody can donate as an individual to whatever political campaign they wish, and anybody can practice any religion they wish, it is a free country, however the two absolutely should be kept separate, that is if you believe in the constitution of the USA, and the founding fathers right, yes that is right. If not you run the risk of becoming something like the Taliban, you elect Ayatollahs instead of presidents, you run the risk of becoming something like radical religious states who do all kinds of horrible things and justify it by saying they are carrying out the will of their God. The founding fathers were smart guys.

"Seriously being the receptionist is hard - I always screw it up when I fill in."

The CoC shall be observed, here.

Still, a nasty visual.

no joe, no bo, nj

So, tell me, is it that you think churchgoers should only support Democrats, or is it only Obama who should get their donations?

That would be nice. And guess what? The money won't be oil-stained money like the Kochs.

No body but Obama/Biden 2012

What ever are you talking about Richard?

Have you ever had to answer phones for a large office?

Or is about your seventh grade humor? Cause looking back, it is kinda funny.

Tough crowd.

It's cool that you can laugh at yourself, Spanky.

I know I do.

btw - How was happy hour?

Glad you're getting some chillaxing done, and letting your hair down.

Me, I'm on East Coast time, and will be spending tomorrow getting ready for a little hurricane action.

It's only 3:00, and my happy hour buddy, with whom I'm going to Mexico in a couple of weeks is on a diet he says, and doesn't want to drink today.

Good news is he's weak, and I hope I can convince him to go. I'm going to shoot him a little e mail right now, as a matter of fact.

Good luck with the hurricane - it looks bad. Be as safe as you can.

Amy B. Portland, ME

I asked myself, what the heck is Wall Builders?

That's why I said wherever this David Barton is I smell a 'rat". Right know David Barton is in Israel with another fraud; Glen Beck.

Well looky there, my buddy caved.

Off for some Bombay Sapphire, rocks [I could lose a few too before the big ugly that will be Mexico. Those damn all inclusives kill you with all that "free" food.

Check you all later.

To all on the east coast - be safe. I hope to hear from you tomorrow.

Good news is he's weak,

At the least, he can do DD.

Good luck with the hurricane - it looks bad. Be as safe as you can.

Think I'll pull out the old para sail this Sat.....But no neck tie.

Well, well, well, looky here, we have The TVangellicals from the Church of Whazzz happening Now, gonna meetup with the Rickster & discuss Religion & Politics(+ $$)!

Whatta Bunch of Hypocrits!

Everyone of'em Going to Hell & They Know It!

Trinity United Church sure didn't have any issues in 2008? I guess that doesn't count eh?

For awhile Iowa GOP Senator Chuck Grassley was investigating the tax exempt status of churches that preach politics from the pulpit--until he discovered he might lose his 2010 re-election.

I wonder if any of the so-called Strict Constitutionalists can point out where it says churches are exempt... From the quick search I did, I couldn't find any references...

And I'm not too surprised Sen Grassley dropped his investigation... Didn't want to lose that cozy government gig!... So much for having principles!

Say Amy - do you know ANYONE that is against legal immigration? I don't, but you must in light of your comment.

I wonder Amy, do you understand the difference between the two, and are you actually in favor of illegal immigration?

Oh my GOD! I forgot about Robertson. Why the hell isn't HE running again? Is it some sort of strategy? Waiting and waiting..... like Palin? C'mon into the pool, Pat- the water's fine (and getting better and better and better all the ime)!

thanks ajsox1, you said it better than I could.

Try to follow along Haggis. The conversation was regarding the band Rush not Limbaugh.... LOL

That'd be mental diversity at play ksw.

It's what makes this so entertaining.

When you have blinders on, you can only see the world one way.

How does Rick Scarborough feel about Mitt Romney's great grandfather moving to Mexico to escape America's laws against polygamy?

Obviously, he's cool with that. Peculiar form of "patriotism," isn't it?

Amy B. Portland, ME

How does Rick Scarborough feel about Mitt Romney's great grandfather moving to Mexico to escape America's laws against polygamy?

I don't know, but my guess is he's not a big fan of the Mittster or his ancestors.

Amy - At least Romney's great grandad moved back to the U. S. and subsisted with the help of government aid.

The family subsisted with other Mormon refugees on government relief in El Paso, Texas for a few months before moving to Los Angeles, California,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

Richard-348249

Amy - At least Romney's great grandad moved back to the U. S. and subsisted with the help of government aid.

That just goes to show the evils of Big Government: You give handouts to slackers and a few generations later, you end up with a spoiled brat who thinks he deserves to be president.

All kidding aside, Houston!, I'd love to see a WPA initiative right now - somewhere in the two trill. range.

We can afford it, and we can't afford not to!

There's an ill wind in West Texas that produced the likes of: Bush, Perry and Romney!

Wait a minute- during the 2008 campaign, we were-

Not allowed to use Obama's middle name, because it implied that we were accusing him of being a Muslim, not American enough, or 'strange'-

Not allowed to talk about Rev. wright, because we were being racists, or intolerant of other views, or accusing Obama of being strange-

Not allowed to talk about the wife and her "first time I'm proud to be an American" statement because if we did so we were being judgmental, probably racist, and accusing Obama of being strange-

Not allowed to question his schooling, because to do so implied that we thought there might be something lacking thereto, did not think he was the "smartest guy in the room", or otherwise thought he was strange-

Not allowed to question his associations with known terrorists, because to do so meant we were questioning his patriotism, judgement, and implied that he was strange---

But Amy, the "intellectual" of the treehouse kids, thinks it's okie dokie to question Romney's fitness for office because of his GREAT GRANDPARENTS?

You. People. Cannot. Be. Serious.

You. People. Cannot. Be. Serious.

This coming from the resident serial liar... lol

*yawn*

Say, how that lawsuit working out for you NJNB? We know you don't 'do victim well' LMFAO!

Surely you remember? You were going to sic your 'attorney' son on it - guess this is what happens when you hire a attroney that had to take the bar exam 6 times before passing!

PS: Here's some Ben-Gay for you to soothe all of your muscles that have been taxed with all your stretching! Along with some Preparation H... ;o)

So let see if I understand Richard, it's cool to slam a candidates Grandfather, but can't say a word of the POTUS father?

NO JO, no they are serious! It's comical has hell to see the logic of their thinking. Funny part is they also slam Romney's father who was a Governor of Michigan and very popular in the Detroit area, but they're cool with a Communist Father that had multiple wives!! So we had a POTUS who's father abandon his kid, to have a stepfather who enrolled him in a Muslim school, but remember that you can't bring that up, and then you have a candidate that has strong family ties and he gets slammed for it. Got to love the Liberal way of thinking!

Obama so very strange NJ

Here is a strange story about Obama: This bi-racial kid from a broken home, raised by a single mother until she died of cancer and he went to live with his old white grandparents. Well this kid he worked real hard, and got into some good schools, he became editor of the law review at Harvard actually. When he graduated instead of taking a instant big money job at a law firm he turned down all those offers and became a community organizer, and went into politics. Well he was elected to the state senate, then he gave a speech at the democratic convention and millions of people saw him and decided that he was nothing like all the scum-bum politicians they were getting so used to seeing. They felt they were seeing something special, something they were always told; that it does not matter who you are, that if you work hard and do the very best with the hand you are dealt you can be anything in America, even the president! So people encouraged him to run for president so he did, and he won the election, he became the first black on the outside bi-racial president of the USA. The kid made good by the ultimate measure in America, every black and white American could be proud of this young man. Now as it turns out many people really admire this young man of modest background for making the most of himself to accomplish the American dream by becoming the President of The United States of America, who gets to vacation with his family at Martha's Vineyard and the strange part is many seem to hate him for the same reason.

Your whole Obama is our idol thing gets old. You know you might not think he is qualified to be president, but he is qualified to be an idol. If you need an idol or just want to switch idols, this guy has the qualifications. He did the American Dream he did what we tell our kids they can do, even though we really don't think they actually will. Pretty impressive!

it's cool to slam a candidates Grandfather, but can't say a word of the POTUS father?

Oh, but you wing-nuts DID "say a word of the POTUS father "- a plethora of words in fact - as well as POTUS and other family members. If you go back to the birther threads, I believe you will find two things:

1. Teabaggers relentlessly pounded President Obama about "producing" his "original" birth certificate, bring into question his citizenship, loyalties, and being "legally" elected among other issues; and

2. I warned you guys repeatedly back then that you were establishing a very bad precedent for all future candidates and Presidents with your assinine, obstinate, unfounded attacks upon Obama.

DON'T TRY TO SLUFF IT OFF NOW PAUL, when it is YOUR guy under the microscope.

We refuse to allow your double standards any longer. If you do it to the Democrat, be fully prepared for the Republican to endure it too.

But they do have their "Team Obama" tee shirts.

No worries- when he leaves office, the person currently in the 8 p.m. timeslot is going to be moved.

That slot will go to Obama- then, he can talk all he wants, only his cult members will hear him, and the country will be safe from his ineptitude.

Need proof of the bias on this site?

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0811/plugged_in_985b456d-f954-4c0d-b285-a7735f459b72.html

Just unreal. I'm thinking whoever said it was right- that earthquake was actually the founders rolling over in their graves.

And they enshrined the rights of the Fourth Estate in the Constitution, no less.

If site is not right wing enough for you, feel free to go find one that fulfills your needs. Not every site has to be 24/7 like faux on how much we hate President Obama. Then you come here and bitch about the little bit of liberal media we do have.

Obama 2012 to keep the America you love

blowjo:

Maybe you would rather read this one...

The Kochs or the Koch PAC "donated directly to 62 of the 87 members of the House GOP freshman class" during the 2010 election campaign cycle.^[31] At the state level, they spent "$5.2 million on candidates and ballot measures in 34 states since 2003. They donated directly to 13 governors that won election" in 2010.^[32] They have "pledged to raise $88 million for the 2012 election and have started scheduling events for potential Republican presidential candidates."^[33]

Bias or politics?

Another insinuation that Rick Perry is gay. You moonbats are despicable.

A lot more than just despicable. Look at what they've done to the country by convincing enough people to elect their leader to the presidency.

I honestly do hope that each and every one of them is out there advocating for his reelection- at least the ones on this board.

The republicans could not PAY for better advocacy than to have one of these nitwit's going door to door.

You guys have been ragging on President Obama for years. It is our turn now. You sure picked a crop of winners this year.

The faux propaganda machine is going to be working overtime to sell one of them to the public with them wanting to kill social security and all. Bet faux tries to hide that little fact from the viewing public.

Best one yet, is that the republican who would die before they raise taxes on the rich are more than willing to raise taxes on the working poor and middle class. Ironic and you were worried about President Obama raising taxes on the rich.

Good luck defending the republican tea party that has declared war on everyone but the rich contributors.

"Less war" is the sole discretion of the President.

The President doesn't have to "pray for less war".

I'm curious....what does "BeyondDEMOCRAT" mean?

What comes to my mind is "beyond stupid".

Why would they go for him over a nice looking lady with "dreamy" eyes like Michele, that is kind of gay.

Mruseurhead,

Since Forrest (two "r"s by the way) has long ago signed off, I'll be your Huckleberry. Resorting to name calling is the surest sign that you've lost the argument... and you lost it straight away with your "mental giant" comment.

And, really, that "shopped" picture of Bachmann (two "n"s by the way) reminds me of the classic image of the National Enquirer "Batboy". Not trying to imply anything- just sayin'.