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Subscribe to RSS“Though more Americans see the economy in bad shape than did at the beginning of the summer, their views of whether to re-elect President Barack Obama have barely changed - and a majority blame George Bush for the problems, a new [AP/GFK] poll says,” Politico writes.
“Despite the perception of a weakening recovery, there has been no significant change in the number of people who say he deserves re-election: 47 percent as opposed to 48 percent two months ago. That's a statistical dead heat with those who favor a change in the White House,” AP writes. “And more Americans still blame former President George W. Bush rather than Obama for the economic distress. Some 31 percent put the bulk of the blame on Obama, while 51 percent point to his Republican predecessor. … Obama also fares better than Congress in the blame department. Some 44 percent put "a lot" or "most" of the blame on Republicans while 36 percent point to congressional Democrats.”
More: “More than 6 in 10 — 63 percent — disapprove of Obama's handling of the economy. Nearly half, or 48 percent, "strongly" disapproved. Approval of his economic performance now stands at just 36 percent, his worst approval rating on the issue in AP-GfK polling.”
“When President Obama took his first trip to Martha’s Vineyard after taking office, the excitement among locals here was palpable, from the signs of support strung across shop windows and front porches to a full-page newspaper ad taken out by 125 Vineyard grandmothers in support of his health care plan,” the Boston Globe reports. “This week, with the jobless rate stuck above 9 percent and the president’s nationwide approval rating at its lowest level, the Vineyard’s broad allegiance shows cracks, leaving some islanders with a more textured, even tormented feeling about the president.”
“Following days of intense criticism from conservatives, Vice President Joe Biden is backing down from what was interpreted as a strange, if unintended, defense of China's one-child policy,” the New York Daily News reports. “The White House issued a clarification late Tuesday, insisting Biden believes such practices are ‘repugnant.’ Biden spokeswoman Kendra Barkoff told AFP in a statement that, ‘The Obama administration strongly opposes all aspects of China's coercive birth-limitation policies, including forced abortion and sterilization,’ adding Biden ‘pointed out, in China, that the policy is, as a practical matter, unsustainable. He was arguing against the one-child policy to a Chinese audience.’”
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Koch Responds To Buffett: ‘My Business And Non-Profit Investments Are Much More Beneficial To Society’
Koch’s “non-profit investments” include the group founded by his brother David, “Americans for Prosperity” (formerly known as Citizens for a Sound Economy). As ThinkProgress first reported, AFP was one the first and most well-resourced drivers of the anti-Obama so-called “Tea Party” movement. Koch-funded Tea Party events have featured speakers comparing health reform to the Holocaust, and in some cases have sponsored rallies with leaders of the “birther” conspiracy theory.
Among the Koch brothers’ other non-profit investments include far-right conservative think tanks dedicated to cheerleading the war in Iraq, spreading anti-science propaganda, and smears claiming that the poor do not really suffer. Koch has given money to educational initiatives, but in exchange for control over academic freedom that simply furthered Koch’s political beliefs. These “investments” at best advance Koch’s political ideology and at worst misinform American voters. Either way, they are hardly a replacement for “government spend[ing]” on things like food assistance and basic medical service.
According to Forbes, the Koch brothers have seen their wealth rise $11 billion in recent years, making the Koch brother among the richest in the country by being worth around $22.5 billion each. Much of those profits, however, are due to soaring gas prices and the fact Koch Industries has avoided compensating the public for one hundred million tons of carbon pollution the company produces each year. Other Koch companies also receive significant taxpayer subsidies, despite Koch’s supposed opposition to government spending. This company is among the country’s top sources of carcinogenic chemicals and air pollutants.
America has been good to Charles Koch, providing an environment where his family has made billions. But Koch doesn’t want to give back, especially through more taxation. His charitable foundation, which gives largely to right-wing organizations that support his politics and Koch Industries’ business interests, still only donates about $12 million a year —0.05 percent of Koch’s net worth. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/20/300236/koch-vs-buffett/ 0.05 percent of Koch’s net worth.
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You’ll need to smarten’ up some.
Folks like these are costing us some real money. See somebody has to make up the difference. They are more than happy to put it on your shoulders. Yours and mine and everybody that’s out there scratching and clawing to make a living. Anybody but them.
See it’s much cheaper to spend .05% to spread Lies, Distortions and Misinterpretation than it is to do the right thing.
And as long as a certain segment of our population is gullible enough to believe it it’s going to continue to cost us all.
Ain’t nothing personal just business as usual for some folks.
Good morning IR,
So true.
hey, its worked for him so far! matters not what the messiah does, his mindless minions will blindly pull that lever for him again.
hey IR VA, please consider changing your handle. although I cant stand the label, a true 'redneck' is a conservative democrat, appalled by what has happened to the party of the South. a true Southern Democrat is a proud, hard working, patriot, putting individual initiative over handouts. the traditional Southern Democrat wants no federal meddling, no strings attached.
a typical 'redneck' is a Southern Democrat, and a typical Southern Democrat is no ally of big government.
so, please Sir, either change your handle, or move north.
It is my belief that the Republican Party has arrived at the wrong side of history, and voting Republicans out of power is the only hope we have of moving the country in the right direction.
On a local level, Republicans have denigrated teachers and reduced their salary and benefits, at a time when America is falling behind in educational attainment. How the heck do you attract bright, educated people to teaching when you treat their salaries like deadwood in a state budget?
Republicans on the national stage refute the theory of global warming, putting the profit of oil companies above survival of the species. How ridiculous is that? Across this country, Republicans are trying to repeal environmental protections, even in the face of Japan's nuclear meltdown crisis and the oil spill in the Gulf. With the results of man-made environmental catastrophes staring them in the face, Republicans STILL ridicule environmentals and their concerns.
I won't even get into the debt ceiling debacle and watching Tea Party politicians proclaim defaulting as an acceptable course of action. To me, it isn't a question of whether or not we support President Obama, it's that we can't afford to give Republicans the tiniest amount of power.
Ms. Amy:
Thank you for your posting. In future however, kindly stick to your latest propaganda release memo. Whenever referring to free citizens that question the overbearing government, use specific, horrible terms. Specifically, please see page 4: ..."endeavour to always use the words racist, hostage-takers, enemy, terrorists...suggest they go to h_ll"
Thank you so much for your continued assistance.
David Axelrod
Minister of Propaganda
all be thankful Amy doesn't decide who gets "the tiniest bit of power".....that was a very calm regurgitation of liberal fantasy.....
Typical tea baggers, Gregor, mitch j and GreedyBizOwner. Give them facts and all they can do is get flustered and post nonsense.
BTW: GreedyBizOwner, if all you've got to hold on to is the unemployment rate, you and the tea people GOP are in big trouble in 2012. See the American people (aka voters) know who is keeping the unemployment rate high. It's you tea baggers.
Mitch J With all due respect you wouldn't know a true Redneck if he bit you on the @ss. Besides that I'm a natural born "redneck" unlike a lot of you'll wannabees that never wases. So take that mess somewhere where somebody wants to hear it 'cause it ain't getting no traction here.
Mr. Mo,
Thank you also for your posting. Just a reminder to stick to the propaganda release memo. Whenever referring to free citizens that question the overbearing government, use specific, horrible terms. Specifically, please see page 4: ..."endeavour to always use the words racist, hostage-takers, enemy, terrorists...suggest they go to h_ll"
We greatly appreciate your use of the "bagger" term, fully complying with the agenda. Your bonus check is in the mail.
Thank you so much for your continued assistance.
David Axelrod
Minister of Propaganda
It's either vote for Barry or allow the Republicans to continue it's destruction of every last economy they ever had anything to do with. What do Republicans ever get correct besides failure ?!? If you tell me then 2 people will know. I doubt anybody has one Republican politician, policy, bill, agenda or opinion that was an ironclad plus in the last 35 years.
Southern Democrat = Modern Republican = Racist. That is how it happened. "Loyal" Southern Democrats jumped ship to the Republican party because they could not stand the civil rights act. Republicans who could have really cared less about civil rights gladly accepted you in return for your support of their campaign to relieve the middle class of their status. So please, stow the self righteousness. Grow a set and just admit that you can't live with the fact that we elected a black man as president. Save the "just because we disagree" tripe. It's chickenshizz
Got to move Independent Redneck. Looks like we accidentaly got on the tea bagger hate page. Have a good chat with yourselves baggers.
Right behind you Mo. All the rest of you'll Yahoo's have a nice day.
Greedy - Obama WILL get re-elected because; he has the good will of the people, most Americans understand that this economy is difficult to repair especially with a Congress that thwarts the president at eveyr turn, the Republican field has candidates that are off the rails and appear to be insane, a majority of Americans are fearful that Republicans will cut benefits or drastically change/eliminate Social Security and Medicare.....
Redneck and Mo you have shown yourself to be anything but independent. As soon as that term you love to throw around "tea bagger" comes out we know we're dealing with liberal wing nuts.
I'm not in any Tea Party but I don't fall for the staged and coordinated attack by the media and liberal politicians on average Americans who are excited and enthusiastic for change and are getting involved.
Remember Nov '10? Just wait for Nov '12 - part 2 is coming soon...
SSDD
Mo and IR, running away? Usually it is you and other libretards (feisty redwig, etc) that are spewing the hate! I say you are cowards for refusing to debate with those of us who prefer tea to the koolaide you folks prefer!
miked......Debate Yes.......Stand around and trade insults about my heritage and libtards and tea drinking no....... Don't have time for it...... And I refuse to waste it on an unarmed man..... Come on back when you have something useful to say now you hear.
IRV, do you know what used to happen to yanks pretending to be rebs?
mitch j
what they moved to California?
mitchj - Amused in the Midwest is absolutely correct. "Dixiecrats" (i.e. Strom Thurmond, George Wallace, etc.) who supported segregation and Jim Crow, were all there were to vote for in the South after Reconstruction. In my lifetime in Louisiana no Republican ran for state office until 1964. I remember him well; his name was Charlton Lyons and he ran for Governor in 1964. He didn't win, and the Republicans didn't gain any traction until 1965 and the Civil Rights Act. Suddenly, the tables were turned - Democrats were the bad guys, trying to destroy our sacred "southern culture." So Mitch, identifying yourself as a "Traditional Southern Democrat" does nothing but let everyone know that you are a racist.
well done mkm, directly calling a Tea Party Patriot a racist is always good for a bonus! your check is in the mail.
keep up the good work!
David Axelrod
Minister of Propaganda
lol, somebody at MSDNC is gonna get fired!
somebody at msnbc gonna get fired well fox news should be put off tv
stay the course: either directly, or thru liberal congresspeople, and the liberal controlled press, call citizens of the United States...racists, jihadists, hostage-takers, the enemy, terrorists.
oh, and dont foreget to tell them to go straight to H_ll.
great plan bam bam, you self centered, lying, piece of __________.
mitchj - You really should get counseling for the hate you feel.
laurie, bam bam started it, his loyal libs post it, his media spews it, his congressional puppets parrot it.
the citizens will react to it, again, this November.
the hate you refer to is a sleeping giants reaction to the hate bestowed upon it.
we are not going to take it any more.
TEA
[mitchj - You really should get counseling for the hate you feel.]
Well, michell j believes he is "the enemy" and "a terrorist"...typical teabagger, short on facts, long on bull@!$%#...
...right, mitchell?
The liberal media controlled press was a lie like most of the things faux says. Faux's propaganda machine knew that more and more truth would be comming out and to keep the mushrooms from believeing the truth put out the liberal media lie so that anything truthful the mushrooms would hear would be wrongly thought of as a liberal media lie.
Poor Mitch not only bought the lie, but is now spreading his censored news as if he knows what he is talking about.
PS Mitch nobody made you king of first read and nobody hired you to tell the rest of us what to do.
In 2008, candidate Obama had some harsh words about President George W. Bush's fiscal policy:
Remember, Number-44 racked up what he deems an "unpatriotic" amount of debt in less than three years, while it took the free-spending George W. Bush administration eight years to compound an equivalent deficit.
Futher proof of the administration's hypocrisy! What can you say now liberals?
AF, of all that drivel, i will agree with you on:
for the kings and queens of first read are the usual suspects everyone always sees mysteriously appear as the first few posters. it is obvious to all of us they are employed by MSDNC to carry the liberal flag.
it is those that are indeed hired to tell the rest of us how to think, and what to do.
fortunately, MSDNC and the other liberal propaganda outlets cannot fight the market, and are all loosing viewers.
hope that check is worth your soul, but dont dispair, its likely my comments will be collapsed "by the communty". you see, the only thing liberals are better at than spewing propaganda, is suppressing independent thought and liberty.
Bill thomas (4.5), this month is the aniversary of that Obama speech! I remember it well as it was obviously just campaign rhetoric.... even back then Republicans and Independents knew that BO was extremely liberal and if elected he would go on a spending spree unequaled in history, and they were right!
Has anyone noticed that feisty redwig is conspicuously absent from this thread? That's because she has absolutely nothing to say in defense of Obama's record!
Just like Code Pink and Pregressives must believe it is OK for Democrats to "wage war".......... but it is a big no-no for Republicans.
Americans first........actually if you do some quick research you will find multiply studies to prove that there is a Liberal Bias in the media. Sorry to bring reality to your world.
Staying the course? What course? He has been all over the place. All this administration has done is be the best bad example of leadership we have ever seen. What liberals don't quit get is that other peoples effort is what pays their union, government, and welfare checks. The private sector can do without you, but you sure as hell can't do without us. All we have to do is starve the beast. And with the clownish activity from this administration building resentment with the small and midsized American owned business. Which generates 74% of the total GDP and employs 75% of the workforce, starving the beast is made easy. Blame Bush? What a crock! What next? The race card of course! You folks are pretty darned predictable. I am loving the desperate grasping at straws these kind of liberal bent rags are displaying.
wow, i guess the usual lib posters who pretend to not actually work for MSDNC (feisty, retired, et al) must have called out sick from work today! typically their comments are the first 2-3.
After the beating Hannity gave Oblabla on hypocricy last night it might be a while before even they can get up the nads to post.
they didn't post because they have no answer when the story line focuses on President Food Stamps....no one to lie about, attack, call racist or "bagger" etc etc they can only look at themselves....the guy they voted for has destroyed the economy and he's going to ....stay the course. Sad.
Not hardly mitchy, they're still laughing at all the nonsense you spewed.
Of course, you are entitled to post your opinions, just don't get upset when we see you for what you are and get a good laugh out of it.
And jed must have just awakened from hibernation. Have you seen the latest yet? 51%, a majority for your simple mind, blame Bush administration for current problems. See, that's the problem with you guys. You say Obama is always blaming Bush when it's really the American people.
...that bam bam is blaming!
jed233
Oh, hahaha, somebody actually still listens to Hannity? Wow, a "freethinker" lol
Before World War I, it was widely believed that the world had entered into an exceptional period of growth and stability. By then, industrialization had been going on for several decades and technological advances in communication and transportation were breaking down the barriers of conducting business around the globe. Western Europe, the United States and even Argentina were quickly becoming the world's economic powerhouses. International markets had displaced the nation-state as the initial source of human activity. It was thought that the idea of war had been overcome and it was time to enjoy a peace dividend. Well, the events of World War I, the Great Depression, and World War II had a different opinion. In fact, the world markets would not recover again until well into the 1950s.
In 1945, citizens around the globe were craving for security and demanded public services and social safety nets be incorporated into their systems of government. The term "social security" (coined by Keynes) was accepted to represent the protective public institutions designed to avert a return to the prior economic conditions. Today, we have once again fallen victim to the economic adage that "growth is good." Though international trade reduces inequality between nations; it increases the disparities of wealth and poverty within a nation. As John B recently stated, "capitalism does not mean there is political freedom."
We have already heard the crying-out of citizens demanding that government "protect our borders." (protectionism) Once again there is an air of economic uncertainty and a craving for "social security" and we have found ourselves in a period similar to the economic conditions prior to World War I. The physical border between the United States and Mexico is not the border that needs to be enforced; it's the border between wealth and poverty that requires the government's full attention and resources. A rebuilding of the middle-class must occur or we will continue 'dredging the swamp'. I don't believe I need to address the result of government cutting back too far, too quickly and the its outcome. We did that in 1937.
If the United States is to survive this challenge, we must bring everyone along; as one people.
Our strength lies in our unity; threaten our unity and chaos is likely to occur.
very true, how anyone cannot see we are more divided now than anytime since the 1860s is beyond me.
of course, it started with the words "the police acted stupidly" and has been systematically reinforced ever since.
all according to plan.
a nice trip down 'history' lane but what are you saying? We shouldn't worry about illegal immigration? You're logic is faulty and simplistic.
Protecting our borders isn't 'Protectionism'.
Tariffs and other taxes and fees in order to promote national growth and maintain production levels is 'protectionism'.
Germany's taxing of all imports in order to keep prices constant with their homemade brands?
THAT is protectionism.
R/
A protectionist
bob-numbers: you're brain is simplistic.
teknishan - I agree with your definition. To be clearer, I should have used the term 'isolationism.' However, any program, policy, or system of laws that seeks to provide protection is another form of protectionism.
at least it's evident though...more than anyone can say for yours.
 I wish he would stay out on the course for the rest of his miserable presidency!
President Obama inherited a colossal mess, and frankly, I am not sure that any President could have corrected it in 3 years. However; I think he and his advisors failed to understand the magnitude of the economic problem early on in his Presidency. Had more definitive action been taken then perhaps some of the recent difficulties could have been avoided. Similarly, as soon as the results of the election giving control of the House to Republicans (conservatives) were known he should have realized the importance of dealing with the debt problem and should have taken steps to significantly reduce spending. Perhaps the whole debt ceiling fiasco could have been averted or at least dealt with in a less divisive manner.
The problem for me right now is that I don't see any Republican candiate who can appeal to more moderate Republicans and Independents so the election could come down to the choice of the candidate one dislikes the least. Not the best basis for electing the leader of our country.
I find it hard to believe that he or his advisors failed to realize the 'magnitude' of the problem when HE and His Party CREATED IT!
point taken Independent,
one problem: the line about O'bama and his advisors failing to understand the magnitude of the problem early on in his presidency is factually inaccurate - on many occasions he threw the word "depression" around in reference to the economy when he needed to scare people into voting for him. He turned to force feed health care down our throats when the country was in dire need of jobs. This economy belongs to O'bama and O'bama alone at this point.
the other biggest issue I see is that he ran on bringing everyone together and it was obvious immediately upon arrival that that too was just a game on independents to vote for him
Gregor
So, the financial crisis of 2007, which led to 1.9 million jobs lost in one year, was no big deal, but the fact unemployment is at 9.2% and improving, is cause for kicking President Obama out of office?
Your arguments are illogical and biased.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/05/news/economy/jobs_november/index.htm
Amy
the financial crisis was a a disaster for sure, only point I make is in the context of liberals still blaming Bush 3 years later. Liberals like Barney Frank and others hands are FILTHY on the housing crisis - they have blood on their hands. O'bama's policies since he's been in office belong to him.
The very definitions of being illogical and biased are shown every day by liberals by not holding the President at all accountable for the horrible state of the economy in 2011
We have never left bush's policies behind us yet. Now the republicans want to cut cut from the programs for the poor and with their Norquist pledge plan on seeing America die rather than raise taxes on the rich.
The republicans have blocked and filibustered any bill that would turn our country around or create jobs. In the tea partiers mind it is President Obamas fault for being black and the majority of Americans fault for voting for him. The republican plan to make us all suffer until they get their way. The tea people were willing to let our country default just to get their way.
They did they got 98% of what they wanted.
The lesson here is if you hold the country hostage to get your plans implemented then the results are on you. The republican tea party has gotten us into a cuts only situation and now the republicans want to raise taxes on the middle class while still protecting the rich.
The republicans want to do everything the economists said would push us into depression all to protect the rich from paying fair taxes.
The icing on the cake, after the republicans do the worst damage they can to the United States, there great plan for American is get this, is "Blame Obama."
If you are tired of republican lies and their destroying America for the rich
Vote Obama 2012
AF, you should know by now. whenever you post against citizens that are against an overbearing government, you sould refer to them as "baggers, extremists, racists, hostage-takers, terrorists, and suggest they go straight to H_ll"
please stick to the talking points of your puppet masters.
"liberals by not holding the President at all accountable for the horrible state of the economy in 2011"
As I recall, the economy was in recovery from the financial crisis by 2010, thanks to the bailouts and stimulus initiated by the Obama administration, at which point the Republicans gained a majority in the House and the recovery began to stall.
Republicans were elected under the assumption they were going to create jobs and what have they done? Spent government money for pork projects in Tea Party districts, fought implementation of the healthcare reform bill, and threatened to cause a default on our debt which led to a partial downgrade. The President did his job, and the Republicans have made attacking him their number one priority since inauguration day.
Ms. Amy, i respectfully disagree. the huge victories of not only the house, but many state legislatures and governorships were the result of the Tea Party. The orders were to push back on tax increases and government intrusion.
those were their orders.
TEA
mitch j
The three least popular governors in America at the moment are Teapublicans elected in 2010. The House has an 18% approval rating, an historic low. Guess somebody misinterpreted what the Tea Party mandate means.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/republican-governors-remarkably-unpopular/
Amy, i am betting one of those is the gov of Fla, a state under his stewardship that has improved their S&P rating. he did this by lowering taxes, reducing govt involvement. in other words, he followed orders. another perhaps WI gov? same thing by being more fiscally conservative. you will soon see more changes in other states, and their approval ratings decreasing.
you see, some people actually think of the citizens more than themselves. a concept difficult for most libs to grasp, who blindly re-elect the same idiots over and over again.
Amy would prefer "elitist-wishy-washy-poll-watching-media-creations" that feed more and more lies and tax dollars to the masses to make them vote for their party to actual leadership and heaven forbid actually addressing the problems before they blow up in everyones face (including Liberal Americans..)
I have to admit, the President needs to start playing "hardball" with Congress in September. He needs to provide a Democrat "jobs bill" and a plan for a "balanced budget amendment" ... then let the Repubs start playing interference with their BS excuses, obsticles, etc. The President needs to make visible, to the public, exactly how strong the House has played "obstructionist" to his Presidency. Obama needs to take away every possible excuse these Repubs will try to create to make him continue to fail.
The fact is, this country's current economic condition, for the most part, be blamed on a Congress that has tried to make Obama fail at his job ... who have openly said "our first priority is to get rid of Obama" rather than fulfill their campaign promise of finding ways to create jobs ... Republican Congress "jobs bill" = 0.
Entitlement programs (whether considered good or bad) are in the condition they are in BECAUSE of a government system (both Repubs & Democrats) that has fallen addicted to big money constituates/contributors. They've quit working for the PEOPLE, and have gone to work for the wealthy and to the big corporations. Why does anyone think the tax laws are a foot & a half thick with tax loopholes, exclusions, etc that allow millionairs and billionairs to pay a tax rate equal to that of a man earning a modest $35-40,000 a year salary. Until this ENDS, our government will continue to decline to where there is a rich & poor ... and no middle-class. We're headed for 3rd World Country status because capitalistic greed has allowed BIG MONEY to skew reasonableness and logic. Corporations and the wealthy CRY because they feel they've been overtaxed, yet they've created the tax codes that allow them, in many cases, to pay less of a tax RATE than those in poverty that they detest as lazy.
The voters will speak, and the poorer voters become, the more likely they will voice their displeasures at the voting booths. Our government is FAILING US because of CAPITALISTIC GREED ... we must take back our government from those that unfairly skew the fairness of the system.
lol, lazerlike focus, 15 trillion, 9+%, shovel ready, saved or created.
your messiah is toast.
Well said for a foodstamp baby. Get real. Being willing to bust your ass to get ahead is not capitalistic greed. Now go get a job, work harder and smarter than everyone else, strive to be the best, constantly improve your skills and you will all of a sudden fall in love with capitalism. Equal effort equal reward. Superior effort superior reward. Get it? The market has nothing to do with it. If you want to lay back and wait to be given something earned by someone elses effort and time, you get what you get.
Like 14 million people are out of work by choice. The unemployed are lazy because they can't find a job, without remembering their are no jobs to be had.
Also no one is hiring because people are broke and no one is spending. Republican answer lets thrown 14 million people off unemployment and when things get worse we can just blame Obama.
Brilliant just like the rest of the tea-publican crowd.
The great plan seems to be lets force those women to have babies not abortions and then we can starve them to death after they are born and we can crow about how christian we are and that we prevented abortions.
So mr lets change for change sake, The republicans or tea party presidential candidaites have a better plan than current administration. Have you not seen the polls? Obama 42% approval rating, Congress 13% approval rating, and that is based solely on the repub and tea party majority House or Representative radical view on where the country should go. I agree with you that Obama is not doing an excellent job, but compared to what our options are with the current radical tea party repub bunch I will stick with the brother and hope for the best.
I don't care if he 'stays the course" stays out on some far away golf course.....goes on another vacation to Spain or Germany or even the Planet Mars with Daniel Kucinich......just so he stays the hell out of Washington. He's screwed up enough already!!
Obama-Bin-Lyin is going to "stay the course." Wow. What a surprise. This fool doesn't knowwhat to do because he is afraid to lead. Leaders make mistakes and Obama is terrified of being wrong. His main problem is simply he does not know what he does not know. And what is that elusive fact? Obama has never been right--about the economy, about job creation or his true voter base.
Blame George Bush and get re-elected? I doubt that. His base is abandoning him, and the Independents he needed to bring to his side will not vote for him. For the 17th straight week the unemployment figures are above 400,000 new applications for unemployment benefits. That means his failure has put 6.8 million Americans out of work in just 4 months! Yeah, blame George Bush for that.
Thre Progressive agenda works well in a classroom but Keynes and his followers forgot that for it to work in the real world it relies on the assumption that those in society who actually do produce anything will continue to do so irregardless of how poorly they are treated by those in power or how small their return on investment becomes.
In actually they have three other, far more attractive alternatives:
They can take their company and leave like Jeff Immelt is doing with GE.
They can become a parasite and live off the rest who do produce.
Or thay can rebel, walk all of the believers in keynesian economics to the guillotine and get on with a free market economy.
The third choice is the most likely.
Free market is code words for raping American, polluting the earth and stealing from the poor.
Republicans the proud defenders of the rich while stealing from the poor.
bfitz, you don't need to worry because you are rich and make more than $500,000 a year. The rest of us will suffer.
thank you Mr. Castro
Bob:
So it is your opinion that even though President Bush was in the White House for eight years, the economic problems we face now were, never the less, caused by the Democrats?
yep....just go ask Barney Frank and Christpher Dodd... and Barack Obama too, that is ...if they are not busy still counting their lobby (bribery) cash from Freddie Mack and Fannie Mae, to keep them from being regulated and FAILING taking the real estate and securities markets down and the econony with them
Independent - Bush has skin in this game he definitely spent too much.
Question for you. Does the Democratic controlled House and Senate in 2007,2008,2009,2010 have anything to answer for? I mean, if you listen to the media and the liberals we the people are to believe that the handful of Tea Party members in the House for barely 8 months are responsible for the current problems
Congress controls the purse strings.
The president directs the policy.
So the question is, what it a failure of policy or a failure or cash-flow?
The answer will tell you who to blame. (Hint: Both)
Dems control of congress for all those years was a failure. PERIOD! Bush's doing or not, the Dems HAD control...Where was the budget, where is it now. Far as I remember, the holy one's budget got shot down 99-0, or something? The president is a failure. He has no concept of what is going on. His main concern is dividing the country along racial and economic lines to create chaos and assure himself another term (don't take possibility too seriously.) His main agenda is to take money from the successful and give it to the "unwashed masses."
Here's what he learned from Alinsky: "The main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. The ENEMY properly goaded and guided in this reaction will be your major strength."
Paula Dean is not the number one threat to America, the policies of barak hussein o'bama are.
I envy the naivete seen here...It must make for such a peaceful non-existence.
OK, I can see a bunch of people on here need to be directed to the nonpartisan commission which investigated the causes of the financial crisis in 2007 and found:
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We conclude dramatic failures of corporate governance and risk management
at many systemically important financial institutions were a key cause of this crisis.
There was a view that instincts for self-preservation inside major financial firms
would shield them from fatal risk-taking without the need for a steady regulatory
hand, which, the firms argued, would stifle innovation. Too many of these institutions
acted recklessly, taking on too much risk, with too little capital, and with too
much dependence on short-term funding. In many respects, this reflected a funda
mental change in these institutions, particularly the large investment banks and bank
holding companies, which focused their activities increasingly on risky trading activities
that produced hefty profits. They took on enormous exposures in acquiring and
supporting subprime lenders and creating, packaging, repackaging, and selling trillions
of dollars in mortgage-related securities, including synthetic financial products.
Like Icarus, they never feared flying ever closer to the sun.
http://fcic-static.law.stanford.edu/cdn_media/fcic-reports/fcic_final_report_conclusions.pdf
I heard that Obama's dog Bo is staying the course too by vowing to take a leak on Joe Biden's leg everytime he comes to the White House.....But that's not going to help the economy either!
He also inherited a triple aaa credit. Skewed poll no doubt. This battle cry about Bush just shows how much that
so called Admin has failed, no leadership. This will be fun watching him try to convince Independents like myself that everything that has happened over the last three years is Bushes fault, LOL.
He's very historic !! he's the one the people were waiting for!!! The people of Red China, and North Korea, and Russia, and Cuba, and any other commie country out there!!
President O'blam-a had better think of something much better than "its Bush's fault" because the American people will never buy it. I know we have the same drooling liberal media that created the "O'bama Rock Star" image but if the people are too stupid to see through it and vote for this guy again we deserve whatever we get
You can repeat all the faux lies you can find, but that will still not make us stupid enough to vote for a republican who goal is to kill social security and destroy America.
We know all the republicans have signed a pledge with Norquist to kill America.
Obama 2012 the only hope for America to survive is to never elect another republican again.
What could go wrong with another Texas cowboy who isn't here to lead us through the crusades like bush thought, but perry is here to lead us to the rapture.
According to this poll, approval of Obama economic performance now stands at just 36 percent,
How does that possibly jibe with the same poll's results that the public supposedly blame George Bush rather than Obama?
This is very questionable polling. How is the question framed?
But, MSNBC and the liberals, you go with that. Keep blaming Bush, and see what happens.
Bob your numbers are a bit outdated.... Obama's approval rating for handling the economy has dopped 11% since May to 26%. Apparently, 11% had just come out of a coma since May. They are continuing to do brain wave scans on the remaining 26%..... but sadly..... are yet to find any activity.
Here's an explanation of why some voters still blame Bush: they are capable of remembering the past twenty years.
23 million jobs were created during Clinton's two terms, vs 3 million during George W. Bush's.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/05/news/economy/jobs_november/index.htm
The only problem with your numbers, Amy was that 22.9 million of those jobs were for White House interns.
When all else fails, just lie bob. Typical republican response.
President Obama's "staying the course''??? I just wish he had taken a few courses....like....."Economics 101", "Basic Logic 101", "ETHICS 101" , "MATH FOR DUMMIES 101". As for Vice President Joe Biden? I just wish he would have graduated high school.
Much better, lets have Perry who flunked economics. Who needs education to kill America for the Koch brothers?
and how did bam bam do? oh thats right, he wont release his grades. all the better to create some liberal talking point to deflect attention away from the fact that he has accomplished everything he wanted:
9%+ out of work, 15 trill in the hole, unions paid back, wall street buddies paid back, the citizenry vilified. yup, all accomplished except the riots, but he probably will get that too.
417,000 new unemployment claims this week, up from the 412,000 from last week.
mmmm mmmm mmmm Barack Hussein Obama mmmm mmmm mmmm
no Cheryl, its Bush's fault.....because that's what they told me to think on MSLSD and most all of the other media
O'bama has done everything right he may be the smartest man ever to be President and you must be a racist tea-bagger because that's what they told me to think on MSLSD and most all of the other media
The Tea Party in the House that are less than half of 1/3 of the government that Repubs control for barely 8 months are terrorists who have taken us hostage want this country to fail because that's what they told me to think on MSLSD and most of the other media
What would you call a group of people holding our country hostage for a cuts only budget while protecting the rich. They are economic terrorist and got 98% of what they wanted.
So exactly how is any of this President Obama economy when we are doing 98% of what the tea-publicans wanted?
Let me know if and when we ever implement any of President Obama's economic plans? Only then will I be able to just the success or failure of such plans.
Obama 2012
Great point AF.......Let me know also whenever Obama plans on implementing anything that even resemble an economic plan.......been almost 3 years and nothing !!!!! Focused like a laser on the economy.... my ass..... This is President Obama and tthe DNC's economy. Obama and his Democratic Congress never even passed a Federal budget passed while they had a super majority.........
ANYBODY BUT OBAMA 2012
As the republican block and filibuster any bill that might have a chance to create jobs or turn our economy around.
After they make America fail, the smarter than everyone republicans think all they have to do is blame Obama.
Anybody but Obama is not a plan, but a recipe for disaster.
Obama 2012 for the love of America
Americans First - Obama has no plan for the economy or for increasing jobs. If he did he would have released it last week instead of saying he has a plan and would release it after his vacation. Why couldn't he have just put it out there for all to see?
According to you and the left, including MSNBC and the MSM, everyone should just have rolled over and let Obama do as he pleased. Just give him everything he wanted. I am glad the republicans blocked and filibustered most of his programs and ideas because we would be in a lot worse shape than we are now.
BTW, go back and look up how many times Obama, as a Senator, voted against President Bush. Remember in 2008, Obama saying that Bush ran up $4 Trillion in debt in 8 yrs by borrowing from China, yet Obama has ran up $4 Trillion in just 2.5 years. Also remember it was Obama who said, in 2007 on the Senate floor, that raising the debt ceiling showed a lack of leadership in Washington and it was spending our kids future, and he voted against raising the debt ceiling.
sfcret - libs like "Americans First" (by the way using a name like that on here is akin to the classic phony politician who votes against supporting the military but is seen wearing a flag pin for appearances...) don't want to look at the facts it doesn't fit their fairy tale leftist talking points. The unfortunate part is most media won't share this info with the public at large as they are still holding onto their manufactured Rock Star portrayal of O'bama
Just tell that lie again. We all know that bush carried the war off the books (think Enron) and when Obama became president felt it was dangerous to carry such debt off the book and it got added to the debt. Magically it appeared that the debt happened on Obama's watch.
But, hey, it is a good lie and makes bush look better than he was. Now the republican debt for the wars and tax cuts is now as far as republicans are concerned is now Obama's debt.
As you continue to fight for tax cuts for the richest, that part of spending our kids future doesn't seem to bother you. Or the subsidies to the almost broke oil industry. Oh, that's right, they are not broke, but making record profits and still get subsidies from our broke government.
Do you remember 2007 and how with tax cuts and two wars and the republicans spending like drunken teenagers. Too bad no one listened to Senator Obama. The fact that no one listened and then somehow the debt suddenly and magically morphed into being President Obama's fault.
Good blame shifting republicans. I also realize the conservatives on here every day trying to convience us that the answer is more bush named Perry or Romney. After all bush did such a good job for his corporate masters.
Cut taxes and start two wars what a brilliant way to destroy America.
Obama 2012 to stop the republican madness to destroy America for the rich
yeah O'bama the community organizing "vote-present" Senator....he was a regular Paul Revere! LOL
tell me what did he have to say about raising the debt limit? hmm, silent on that one I see....
you can't even believe your own crap c'mon get honest here....I mean O'bama even appointed HIllary to Secretary of State and SHE WAS A HAWK ON IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN .....and he put thousands and thousands of more troops in Afghanistan and what do we hear from hypocrite ibs like you? nada....
Gregor funny you should bring up flag pins. That was the republicans claim to patriotism. Seems like your talking point doesn't quite fit the situation.
We may be Democrats or Republicans but we should all be Americans First.
It's okay Gregor, you can yell all you want.
I am still not interested in your lies.
Obama 2012
I noted politicians who don't support the military....mainly libs.....but hey, if the pin fits on a repub then same goes for them
Americans First.
Americans First - You mention 2007, if I remember right the democrats controlled both houses of congress from Jan 2007, until Jan 2011, when they lost the house, but the democrats still control the Senate. Also Bush did not start two wars, only one (Iraq), maybe you forgot that we went into Afghanistan because the government of Afghanistan refused to give us Osama Bin Laden because of the terrorist attack on NYC, and the Pentagon. You also must be aware that that congress approved the military action. (I was not impressed by the way the war was fought and I believe Bush took his eyes off of the war. I was not in favor of the invasion of Iraq, but remember he went to congress and congress approved the war in Iraq.)
Ya'll do realise the GOP only controls 1/3 of Washington............and it's their fault........yeah right!!!!!!
poor libbies, they fail to realize that the Tea Party is not running!
simpletons.
Barack.... don't look back...... because that "Genaric" GOP contender that was gaining on you....is well ahead of you now!
yeah candidate Unknown is ranked higher than the yokels up there! Impressive GOP field
Rampant UE, poverty at it's highest levels ever, welfare at over 50%, job's and business leaving at the fastest pace ever, the American people at each others throats politically, racial tensions at the highest level since the 60"s, economy at a standstill, runaway regulation choking business, ect,ect,ect.....Staying this course means what everyone suspected all along. He has a deep seated hatred for the U.S.A. and wants to destroy it.
jed, or should I say thanks Hannity?
wow Hannity said a lot last night huh? Did you record it and memorize it so you could repeat what he said? Each and everyone of his sound bite talking points.
I agree that the Democratic controlled Congress during the Bush administration definitely does have much to answer for with respect the debt problem. Frankly, I think the mess is so big, there is enough blame to go around. And I do not think the Tea party Congressmen are responsible for the current gloomy economy. Now, I do think they have added to the anger and divisiveness in the country. At some time members of both parties are going to have to work together or we will have no concrete action taken to solve our problems.
I am just not sure that Tea Party members, or any other Republican can or will do better. That's why I classify myself as an independent---I like to look at both sides of an issue before making a judgement.
That same Democratic controlled Congress that failed to monitor or audit Fannie/Freddie and even called Republican efforts to do so, a witch hunt and then stated nothing was wrong with the books........you say they have little to answer for ????????
As for the Debt cceiling issue........you forget the FACT that the Democratic controlled Congress last year failed to write or pass a Federal Budget for 2011. If they would have done their job and passed a budget the need for the c=ceiling increase would have been exposed nationally at that time.....Sept 2010....right before elections in Nov........they had a majority and could have passed a budget and raised the debt cceiling at the same time with simple majority vote.......they did not.....they kicked the can and put it off to the last moment to draw the GOP in to a debate over the issue to help spread blame........make sure you have all the facts before jumping to a conclusion.
new slogan for O'bama and company....."Politics before people!"
New slogan for the republicans.
Death to America before raising taxes on the richest.
Yeah like Obama says go after millionaires and billionaires but wants to raise taxes on ANYBODY making 250K and above...........Like saying you are going elephant hunting and then shooting a rabbit...........start at a million a year at least.
Independent I think most americans agree with your statement. Both sides need to be blamed and the democrats are not faultless in this catastrophe by any means. But I have a BIG problem with the GOPTP bunch who refuse to work with the dems and are hell bent on only getting what they want which is to ONLY protect corporations and the rich, with no thought whatsoever for the middle class and working class of america, not mention the total disregard for the poor and have nots. That alone forces me to Vote Democrat since there are not other viable options. If the GOPTP would bring at least one or two good ideas that would create jobs and alleviate some pressure on most americans, they would have a shot, but this bunch mindset is hell bent only on protecting the wealthy and getting rid of obama that is not the way to run a country that is slipping into a double dip reccession and has become more of a divided country since the civil war.
The republican like to act like they have been in a coma since 2000 and suddenly they woke up and Obama had been president since 2000 and did everything bad that was ever done.
We can't blame bush, just because he did it. Better to pretend bush never existed. Republicans are sick and tired of anyone trying to put any of this on bush and the republicans still in congress who just happened to have been the ones who voted for this mess we are in.
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Not sure where you have been, it has been said over and over, we have 8 missing years of American Politics, except for that little period when Dems got congress, nothing else happened. We went from Clinton to Obama... Watch Fox news, they will verify for me!
President Obama stands not a chance if he stays below 50% when the question "does Obama deserve re-election" is polled.
He is at 47% and that will continue to sink because this economy is not going to get better with his stay the course strategy. Stay the course? The course to failure? It's all he has so far.
Obama still thinks the gov. can spend its way out of recession. Wrong. His lemmings on the left deflect this problem by claiming Americans will look to Bush as the problem and thereby obviate Obama's economic failure. Wrong. Then they try to bring up the unpopularity of Congress that provides cover to Obama's economic failures. Wrong again.
In the voting booth people will only be thinking of one thing - has President Obama delivered on his promises of economic recovery and do I think he is one the right track? The answer will be a vote for the Republican.