"Hotel"? Isn't a hotel for the proletariat?

So clearly Fiesty has no family.

Why else would she suggest that someone's grand kids go stay at a hotel.

It really is sad. I feel bad for the old gal.

As I said earlier, this is Mitt's jobs program. I wonder how many of the day laborers will be picked up at the local Home Depot, "CASH, no questions asked."

Home Depot, at least in these parts, no longer lets the illegals hang out front.

Besides no way anyone going to use illegals in La Jolla. They neighbors would never pass the Grey PoPoun.

You on the other hand seem to be very familiar with the use of illegals. Huh.

23 mill in two homes, and Mittless still uses his son's basement as his address.

What's up with that?

Forget about that - check out the property to his right.

Now that's the one to have. Huge lot, plus not wiped out every time the tides rise up.

Forget about that - check out the property to his right.

That's Opray's. She uses it a couple of times a year. I'm sure she'll have a fundraiser there for Barack.

Spanky-

So clearly Fiesty has no family.

Why else would she suggest that someone's grand kids go stay at a hotel.

It really is sad. I feel bad for the old gal.

I feel so sorry for you too. Spanky sorry about losses, Okay? Since your gold standards and stocks are going down and you can't guzzle up enough; because now you have to make choices between vacation and your ambulance chasing, I have this video to help you through your buyers remorse.

Here is a little Bedouin blues just for you to enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCkSX6Kl3ig&feature=autoplay&list=FL4j2bWO16ktc8ztmrIqYhcA&index=8&playnext=7

You have to slide your ruler past the first mintue to get to the good part which is barely audible anyhow.

See some things in life can be free and you don't need to beg.

Enjoy

Yes, Mitt I sooooooo understand. My granddaughters are growing!!!!!! I'm going to tear down my walls and expand this weekend. I need more room. I just hope my neighbors in the unit next to me will understand.

Imagine, a $12 million BEACH HOUSE. A Beach House that costs twelve million dollars!!! We used to go down to Nantasket and stay at a real beach house. An old old New England house, with creaky floors and doors. Screen door slamming shut all day. We loved it. And there were 13 of us.

If it got too crowded, we didn't notice. We were outside playing and swimming all day. With about 30 plus cousins and 22/23 aunts and uncles. Plenty of room for all of us.

Although we didn't actually rent it - we borrowed it from an aunt and uncle. For a day. That's what most kids in the 1960's did. If at all.

9 kids in my family. Plus two parents, an uncle and a grandparent. We were fine growing up in a 7 room house. Lots of fun. I doubt very much my father paid $12 mil for it. What with fighting in WWII and then coming home to start a family right away.

And if it needed fixin' up, he did it himself along with his 5 sons.

A perfectly fine old house. Sharing rooms. Sharing everything actually.

Mitt, sorry - you and the Bush family - all feel entitled to everything, including the presidency. No wonder you're upset about jobs. People like you have always had 'em. So didn't your friends. All you had to do was make a phone call.

The AA community not so lucky. It's why I like Rev. Sharpton. He understands how the real world actually works. Things weren't quite so easy for them. Not like it has been for you and your family.

Yippee, another Bevism. Why yes Bev. my "gold standards" are going down.

Oh and you are right I do have to make choices between the ambulance chasing [although I do have staff for that] and vacation.

Next week I choose to vacation in Havasu for Labor day. Then the week after that I'm headed to Cancun. All inclusive, adults only.

Oh yeah.

An old old New England house, with creaky floors and doors. Screen door slamming shut all day. We loved it. And there were 13 of us.

According to Willard - these days every grandkid needs their own bathroom...

Talk about entitlements!

PS: How right you are about the screen door slamming... brings back fond memories! ;o)

Is his house the one on the left? That's a beach hut, and where is the yard? I am sure the neighbors will be glad to see that eyesore go.

Can someone ask him how many houses he owns? Cars? American cars? I'm sure he'll answer much like McCain did in 2008. 1000 sq. ft. per grand kid. WOW! How come Warren Buffet can still make it with all his grand kids in his 3000 sq. ft. home? Think he has more than you Romney. Unless, of course, you have a plurality of wives.

"Then the week after that I'm headed to Cancun."

http://www.ecu.edu/cs-admin/news/inthenews/archives/2005/12/061206AZrepublic.cfm
But there's another Cancun just beyond Kilometer Zero, the place on Kukulcan Avenue where the vaunted Hotel Zone ends. And things are not so idyllic there.

It's a city of 500,000 struggling with the social ills of a frontier boomtown: crime and poverty, drugs and gangs, political unrest and a child porn ring whose alleged leader is now in jail in Arizona.

It's a place of gritty "superblocks" where hotel workers live in cinder-block houses, and of even poorer areas where squatters build shanties out of scrap wood and old advertising banners.

Cancun - Gotta love an artificial paradise.

Imagine the clientele it attracts!

looks like romney wants to do his bit for creating jobs, who said trickle economics was a failure? That's right, the libs. Building America again has to start somewhere, one step at a time.

Cancun - Gotta love an artificial paradise.

Imagine the clientele it attracts!

The Mexican version of Las Vegas - what a tourist trap!

Not to mention they have some of the WORST food in the world!

This from before Kerry ran for president.

The many homes of Democrat Presidential candiate, John F. Kerry:

Fox Chapel, Pennsylvania (Assessed value: $3.7 million)

Ketchum, Idaho ski getaway/vacation home (Assessed value: $4.916 million)

Washington, D.C. - Georgetown area (assessment: $4.7 million)

Nantucket, Massachusetts waterfront retreat on Brant Point (Assessed value: $9.18 million)

Boston, Massachusetts - Beacon Hill home (Assessed value: $6.9M)

Oh, and he sold this estate in Italy to activist actor George Clooney, just before announcing his running for president. I guess he thought it might not sit well with the common man. ($7.8 million)

Other foreign property ownership by John Kerry is unknown... because he denied repeated requests for this information.

This from before Kerry ran for president.

Since it's from before Kerry ran - can you remind us why it's relevant?

BTW: Kerry married his money unlike Mittens who rapes & pillages companies for his cash...

PS: Where is the link to your 'source'?

Oh no there are bad places near Cancun. That's a shame, but true of just about anywhere. I love New Orleans [especially Jazz Fest] but venture too far out of the French Quarter and all bets are off. And that there is American, right Richard?

Oh and Feisty 1. the food at the 5 star all inclusive resort is top notch, and 2. I'm headed to Vegas in Early October. Stayed at the Cosmopolitan last time. It was fantastic. Trying to finagle a SKY Room at MGM this time.

But truth be told I could eat guacomole and chips all day long. :)

Oh and Richard - it attracts me. Is that a problem for you? You obviously are interested in my comings and goings. Why is that Richard? You love you some Spanky like Feisty?

Cool.

Personally, I don't care about it anymore than vacations, a bus, or what have you about the president. What I care about is connection to the real world (people say this about the Ivy League too), and sensitivity to it.

Romney joking about being unemployed, for example, does not connect with me. Romney criticizing the president for renting a place with his own money in Martha's Vineyard is out of place. The biggest issue is how Romney made his fortune by being a corporate raider.

I am willing to bet that Feisty, Pat from Boston and Bev and all others who have a problem with this, also criticized the Kennedys for their compound in MA, they also criticized John Edwards home in the Carolinas. He is not using Tax payer funds to add on to his house. Its his money and he can spend it as he pleases. He didn't steal it. You may not approve of how he earned it but its still his money.

I don't really approve of how old man Kennedy made his money, bootlegging whisky. Edwards is an ambulance chasing lawyer. But thats okay isn't it? The hypocrisy of some of the posters on this site is ridiculous. Lets not forget about John Kerry who wouldn't pay the appropriate taxes on his YACHT, instead he chose to park it another state with lower taxes than MA. Who on earth has the gall to own a yacht. Only the Kennedys and Kerrys pop to my head right away. Unbelievable.

Edwards is an ambulance chasing lawyer.

Who knew Skanky is a reincarnation of Edwards... lol

You can now resume your crack addicted/lazy black rants honey...

You know the ones where you criticize others for stereo-typing.... ;o)

In the meantime, would you post another one of your famous chain e-mails?

Pretty please?

janet, I have criticized Ted K. many times, just as I have criticized JFK many times. John Kerry? Please. His yacht story was horrendous. And I said so. We ALL said so up here.

But you know what?

Democrats speak up against their party. All.the.time. We expect more from them.

Republican voters just look the other way. They don't care what their GOP politicians do. As long as they're republicans.

That to me is hypocrisy. You stick together like glue. While the country continues to go down the tubes under their watch time and time again.

btw, Massachusetts isn't Romney's home state.

janet-489369

Lets not forget about John Kerry who wouldn't pay the appropriate taxes on his YACHT, instead he chose to park it another state with lower taxes than MA.

Even the Boston Herald wrote that Kerry PAID the tax as if the boat was bought in MA. In addition, he did so for political reasons as the boat is owned by a company that Teresa's accountants set up that was out of PA, her official state of residence. Their intent was to charter it out when they were not using it. There was nothing illegal or wrong in doing so.

Everyone in a tizzy over a $12 million renovation by someone who can afford it. The amount of money flying around the country is mind-boggling. However, Romney is spending 12 million dollars on a house his family will own for a century (like most politicians and their compounds).

President Obama, on the other hand, could buy 240 weeks (5 years) at a Martha's Vinyard rental for the same money. The difference is President Obama wouldn't have anything to show for it in the end --- except for some lovely pictures and post cards.

Romney's way is a much better investment that will passed down generation to generation.

And that, folks, is the difference between Republicans (spending money wisely for the long term)....and Democrats (throwing money away on short term fixes).

Feisty it is relevant just as Romney's house is relevant. And no he did not marry it. Teresa Heinz Kerry does not have to reveal her assets and so she doesn't.

The president does not currently own his own beach house, or a better example, his own ranch. If you calculated what a large estate costs to maintain while living in the White House, versus renting, or going to Hawaii, or various places you choose, I don't see a problem with what the president is doing. No doubt, when the Obama's go back into the private sector they will make an investment.

BTW, Bush bought the ranch in Crawford when he became president and sold it immediately after leaving the White House. It was used to present a certain image--clearing brush for example--trying to seem Reagan-like. At least Romney is being his Thurston Howell, III self.

Ahhhh but Candice... you can't say anything bad about Obama to the left sided participants on this board. They feel sorry for Obama right now because he's had a few tough weeks... his poll numbers are dropping.. and he's had some really bad golf games... and then of course there's that pesky economy he's trying to fix. So much burden on such a great guy. He has to have some family time... you know the job of being president is really very hard on him. Haven't you noticed how gray his hair is getting? That's his intellect trying to escape and it's changing the color... of course all that worry and concern he's showing for the American people... especially during trying times like this... You know Martha's Vineyards is so fitting for his lifestyle.. $50000 per day is well worth the rest and relaxation he's supposed to be getting. How could you even begin to complain about it Candice?

Excuse me while I go yak.

The problem with the President's vacation is pretty much the same as the problem with this article. It is the timing and the location. Even the hated Fox News said that Obama probably needed a vacation but right now and on Martha's Vineyard is not good for him now. Even Clinton's pollster said they sent him to Colorado for appearance and polling sake.

You know as well as I do no matter where he went and what President Obama did you would find some reason to complain.

If there is no pleasing you, why try?

Hello, Brianb. Not complaining. I just find it so interesting the stark contrast - don't you? True Patriot thinks that when the President is no longer in the spot light, he'll invest in a grand piece of property like the rest of the "millionaires and billionaires." He can't manage money responsibly now --- for political reasons - which is what he seems to base all of his decisions on - and shows how shallow (or oblivious) he really is.

I think, however, the President should invest in some property right now. He can certainly find some bargains. He could lead by example. Show the people investing is a good thing. If his lemmings follow suit, he might single handedly get the housing market back on track.

Rick - I saw Clinton's pollster comment on the choice of vacation spot. He did concede that with so many people struggling, seeing our leader stroll around the Vineyard, enjoying an ice cream just doesn't look so good. I think Michelle had a hand in choosing the spot and his advisors did not advise him well.

I don't begrudge the guy some R&R. Presidents are really never off the job. I have a feeling he can't wait to lose the election in 2012. I'm sure he's learned by now, the job really stinks.

Just like I said, no matter what President Obama does or doesn't do the conservatives will find something to complain about.

Being all you conservatives are so much smarter than our president and all the liberals on this board, just what is your brilliant plan for jobs and getting our country moving forward again?

Candace you are confused he is tearing down a 12 million dollar house to quadruple the size. I will tell you though he has some beautiful homes and I know he is the guy who can show Americans how they can live on 12 bucks an hour and no benefits. You think this guy really understands what regular folks in America are up against.

Hmmm. 11,000 sq feet. 16 grandkids? Roofing over a quarter of an acre, guess they'll have to use cell phones or walkie talkies to call them all together for a meal. Real family togetherness. Think the neighbors will complain if they put in a P.A. system instead?

Heck yeah they are rolling ove.

$3million per minute added to the debt.

Mind blowning numbers.

You would think with spending that kind of money, you would be screaming to stop borrowing money for tax cuts for the richest right now. Stop subsidizing the oil industry we could quit spending there also.

Nah, better to pretend you care and take a swipe at President Obama.

Ah but see there Bev, that's the great thing about having made a bunch of cash - you get to have houses all over the place.

Try not to be too jealous.

Isn't this country great. Every man is free to be as successful as they can.

Every man is free to be as successful as they can.

And every woman.

And even Bev.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/17/mitt-romney-sells-two-of_n_167601.html

A spokesman for the former Massachusetts governor says Romney and his wife, Ann, have put their 9,500-square-foot Deer Valley, Utah ski lodge on the market for $5.25 million, and are also selling the suburban Boston home where they raised their five sons. The 6,400-square-foot
Colonial on 2.5 acres in Belmont is expected to fetch about $3 million.

Spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom said the Romneys are "downsizing and simplifying."

That should appeal to the regular folk.

He had to pay for the La Joya upgrades somehow.

That should appeal to the regular folk.

And Obama having a billion dollar campaign will?

Spanky-

Ah but see there Bev, that's the great thing about having made a bunch of cash - you get to have houses all over the place.

Try not to be too jealous.

Isn't this country great. Every man is free to be as successful as they can.

When I visit relatives they insist I sleep in their guest room or thee basement; instead of a hotel. I'd rather spend that precious time with my family members. You can't put a price on love.

As a littler girl down south we sleep on my grandmother's raggedy floors on quilts. And no there no was anger or animosity. We loved the country life with the fresh chicken in the back yard, not the coups though, the fruits and vegetables, pecan and fig trees we picked, the pot belly stoves which needed wood, the old fashion ice boxes that needed a blocks of ice, taking a bath in a tub and going outside to draw water from a well with a pail and big dipper.

Being from the big city it was all a novelty. Of course, none of this means anything to you because you are a condescending, slob and have an unrequited love for captialism which seemingly is not trickling down to you; at the moment.

In fact it is the opposite Bev. - I found your story to be very charming. It sound like you had a great time, and that and spending time with your family is what it's all about.

Even for us "condescending, slob and have an unrequited love for captialism which seemingly is not trickling down to you; at the moment" types.

So Bev, it sounds like the Romney's are just like you. They want their family members to stay at their home with them so they can enjoy quality time together. Again you are nothing but a hypocrite.

janet-489369

So Bev, it sounds like the Romney's are just like you. They want their family members to stay at their home with them so they can enjoy quality time together. Again you are nothing but a hypocrite.

With one exemption, No one in my family is a politician doing it to feign a political base. So don't talk about hypocrisy to me. Reading your posts only exhibits to me who much of a fool and hypocrite you are

Beverly,

I haven't had a chance to tell you before --- welcome back. I was a little worried about you when you went missing for awhile. Glad you're okay.

Candice-

Beverly,

I haven't had a chance to tell you before --- welcome back. I was a little worried about you when you went missing for awhile. Glad you're okay.

Candice- thank you. I really don't feel so well everyday. I'm hoping I hold on to attend next year's LIB R US Convention.

I appreciate your kind words.

Bev's slapdown... what a fun thing to watch... Gee Bev... you got her right in the breadbasket.... although... I am wondering what the point made about noone in your family is a politican... that sorta didn't fit with your gripe. It can't be you are upset with Romney because he's a politician... because then you'd sound very silly defending Obama because he's a politician too. I suggest you learn to maybe sound a little more sure of yourself when making statements... otherwise, some people might not understand what you are talking about.

And Bev, no normal person gives a @!$%# where you were and what you were doing. My guess is you were in jail doing time for selling crack. I only hope you get caught again soon!!!!

But really my guess is that your were "hookin." Wouldn't expect anything else of someone like you. Do you declare that income on your tax returns??? My guess is no!!!

Jeez, Janet. Bev and I are on totally opposite sides but she's a person, too and your comments are uncalled for.

Candice-

Jeez, Janet. Bev and I are on totally opposite sides but she's a person, too and your comments are uncalled for.

Thanks Candice, you are truly a lady.

Candice,

I am sure you are a perfectly nice person. But maybe you haven't read some of Bev's posts. She deserves anything anyone says about her. I am sick of her hypocritical posts and felt its time someone gives it back to her.

janet-489369

Bev,

You are a black racist bitch. You are envious of everyone that has something you don't. Try getting off your welfare ass and working for a living. Then and maybe then you will gain respect of the rest of the country, and those of us that WORK (granted thats a concept you know nothing of) for a living.

Bitch, I've never been on welfare in my life. Let me tell you something else my tax dollars pay for the 911 call you'll make after someone smacks you in your racist mouth.

And another thing; thanks to racist like you opposing the Black man in the Oval Office and proudly wreaking the economy; many working people are receiving food stamps. You can go straight to hell.

Also you can kiss my black ass!

Janet: You've been reported to the moderators of this community. Your comments are offensive and violated the Code of Honor here.

janet-489369 wrote

Bev, You are a black racist bitch. You are envious of everyone that has something you don't. Try getting off your welfare ass and working for a living. Then and maybe then you will gain respect of the rest of the country, and those of us that WORK (granted thats a concept you know nothing of) for a living.

And Bev, no normal person gives a @!$%# where you were and what you were doing. My guess is you were in jail doing time for selling crack. I only hope you get caught again soon!!!!

But really my guess is that your were "hookin." Wouldn't expect anything else of someone like you. Do you declare that income on your tax returns??? My guess is no!!!

Well heck I will stick my two cents in:

Janet you were way out of line Candace is right those remarks were uncalled for.

Candace it was very decent of you to ask about Bev and stick up for her you are in the right to call out Janet, thank you.

Bev I hope you feel better soon, lots of people here on both sides wish you well.

You can now resume your crack addicted/lazy black rants honey...

Did I call it or WHAT?

See my post #1.22 above...

BTW Bev -- Candice was being sincere, she was concerned enough while you were gone to ask me about you! ;o)

Perhaps not, but dude I'm doing some re-model work on Casa Spanky.

These are super good times to do the work. Contractors are bending over backwards for the work. See, for a long time around here, when real estate was booming it was hard to get anyone on the job.

Besides as they get older, they tend to get bigger and need more room. But you have a family and know that, right Noid?

My Havasu place gets smaller every year, as does the boat. I'm sticking with the house, but have already upgrades to a bigger boat twice cause of those damned kids.

However, I will ask you, and your liberals, why are you so concerned about Romney spending money on his house in California

Thanks to your smart ass comment (see below) I'm going to decline answering you...

Grow up and get a life.

Nah - I'll stick to living in Mom's basement with free internet if it's all the same to you...

To First Read, why is this even a subject of importance?

It was important enough for you to take the time to comment.. lmao!

sfcret it was this fluff or Obama's tanking numbers.

You see that new poll in Florida?

Oh My. Cooked. Goose.

However, I will ask you, and your liberals, why are you so concerned about Romney spending money on his house in California?

What's wrong with it? This week we've seen the following posted about President Obama's vacation...

"Foreclosures are at record rates - people are living in tent cities and then you have Barry Obama pay $50,000 a week for his summer vacation rental, an amount many unemployed people would consider a good annual salary if they could find a job in the Barry economy." - Joe in Albany

We are asked to be offended at the amount spent on the rental as if to demonstrate that the President is out of touch with average Americans.

...but leave Mitt alone...he can suddenly quadruple his La Jolla house because he suddenly found out he has grandchildren. Well, that's a whole different ball of wax.

This on the heels of 4 years ago...John and Cindy McCain have 7 houses while average Americans are fighting to keep theirs.

The word is hypocrisy...it's either an issue or it's not. I'll leave it to you to decide.

Da Noid - I never mentioned anything about Obama vacationing or how much money he is spending, however remember it is costing the tax payers money, even if Obama is paying for the actual rental fee. I have nothing against Obama nor any other President taking vacations. I don't see that there is any hypocrisy in Romney nor anyone else spending their money for whatever they want to spend it on.

To me hypocrisy is Obama, Buffet and a few other millionaires and billions saying that taxes should be raised because they don't pay enough. I have yet to see Obama, Buffet or the others pay more than what is required, when they know that they can pay more and apply it to the national debt.

Another hypocrisy is Obama in 2007 saying "raising the debt ceiling shows a lack of leadership in Washington...., therefore I am voting against increasing the debt ceiling". Now whining because he couldn't get a up or down vote on the debt ceiling.

Hey don't forget Obama debate comments in 2007 - Bush was unpatriotic because he increased the debt by $5 trillion. He repeated that statement several times.

This from the guy who has already added added another $4 trillion.

Noid, would you say that's a tad inconsistent?

Spanky-

Hey don't forget Obama debate comments in 2007 - Bush was unpatriotic because he increased the debt by $5 trillion. He repeated that statement several times.

This from the guy who has already added added another $4 trillion.

Noid, would you say that's a tad inconsistent?

Spanky you are an egregious LIAR.

The President did not add 4 trillion dollars to the deficit.

Stick with what you know best.

http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/alcool/alcool_4.gif

Spanky

The Bush Administration Adds $4 Trillion To National Debt

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500803_162-4486228-500803.html

The $4 trillion defict added by Obama came from the following:

1. Two unfunded wars under Bush and passed by Republicans
2. An unfunded tax cut to the very wealthy under Bush
3. Unfunded tax refunds to average citizens under Bush
4. Unfunded Drug Deal with Big Pharma under Bush

The costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were kept off the books. When President Obama came in to office, he put them on the books. If Republicans could come out their fact free zone; they'd SEE it.

Spanky that was 2008. Bev, go on youtube and put in Obama July 3rd 2008, his OWN words He did add 4 trillion and counting.

Paul-Florida

Spanky that was 2008. Bev, go on youtube and put in Obama July 3rd 2008, his OWN words He did add 4 trillion and counting.

If you knew how to comprehend what the 2 links I provided, Paul, you understand why?
Georgie boy did not put the wars on the books. Is that clear?

Bev, add to that tab the first stimulus - $350 Billion, TARP and the first Automobile Bailout,...

PS. This faux concern with optics is so asinine. If President Obama stayed chained to the desk in the Whitehouse - It would cost the country money. AND the staff at the whitehouse would not get a break or vacation.

Ya' know, I've said a lot of bad things about Bush; but I did read an article once where he and Laura liked to at least go to Camp David each weekend to give some of the staff an actual break. I thought that was mighty decent of them. I think this Obama/Bush thing is petty NONSENSE.

Now, back to Romney and this article,...I think for me - this speaks to different optics and motives. Is Romney becoming a California Beach Bum for optics (much like the Bushes buying the ranch for W to @!$%# kick around) or is this a long term family asset that he is upgrading?

I really haven't paid attention because quite frankly, it's NOISE that distracts from the fact that the man bought troubled companies with Daddy's 'boot' and then fired people and sold the assets for a profit. Personally, I don't see how that qualifies him to hold a government position based on his record and experience. Now his ACTUAL record at governance is something he has to sprint from in order to garner the Bat@!$%# Crazy Vote. Personally, I think his willingness to walk away from THAT speaks more to his lack of character than any remodel of an asset does. But that's just me.

Here's the history on the 14 trillion dollars in debt.

The debt was about $1 trillion when Reagan took office, and then: Reagan, $1.9 trillion; George H.W. Bush, $1.5 trillion (in just four years); Bill Clinton, $1.4 trillion; Obama, $2.4 trillion.

Wait, I left one out. George W. Bush ran up $6.4 trillion. That's nearly half—44.7 percent—of the $14.3 trillion total. We all know what did it—two massive tax cuts geared toward the rich, along with all the other spending that was not paid for, which was all of it including slashing the capital gains and inheritance taxes, the off-the-books wars, the unfunded Medicare expansion, etc. The number is staggering. In a history covering 30 years, nearly half the debt was run up in the eight years of the Bush administration with republicans voting for every single spending bill under Bush from 2001 to 2006, none of which were paid for.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/07/31/the_debt_crisis/

We used to sleep on the floor at my grandma's.

And looked forward to it...

Yeah that house almost certainly has hard wood floors.

That's be tough, even for a corporation.

You know that raises an interesting question Feisty.

You are after all the Pres/CEO of Feisty Industries. You employ hundreds of workers and routinely deal with payroll, tax, labor and economic issues. It is after all where you get the background information you use here in all of your very thought out comments.

So do tell, was you grandma loaded? Is that how you rose to your position of prominence and stature?

And if so - did you ever get bent at your gammy for making you sleep on the floor when she was in fact super rich?

The green monster rears its ugly head. Whats wrong with making money? You guys act like its a sin or something, maybe sin was not the word to use.

If the money means so nothing then why 2 days ago all we heard about was what could be done with the $50,000 a week the Obama's were paying to rent a place. President Obama spending money was so bad and how could we support such a rich president?

Now all the sudden we hate rich people for bring up Romney and his tearing down a $12,000,000 dollar house to make it 4 times larger.

This is one of those if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen moments.

Granted President Obama deserves a vacation, but couldn't he have donated the money he spent "out of his pocket" to Bev or Feisty so they wouldn't starve??? Only rich republicans are bad, lets not forget President Obama is a millionare. Oh wait, I forgot he only "owes" money to black people.

You also forget that President Obama is not one of those who signed the Norquist pledge never to raise taxes on the rich again either.

Richey Romney made his money by buying companies and firing all the workers and then selling the pieces. I am not quite sure how that would work on a national level and what kind of county we would have left. He got rich but left devastation in his wake.

That what our country needs, Richey Romney to leave another republican devastation and we haven't even cleaned up the last one after bush. This time the republicans are after social security.

With corporations ending retirement programs, 401K's being eaten by the stock market (thank god, my money is in a guaranteed account and I didn't lose anything) and now the republicans want to get rid of social security I can't imagine what the republican vision for the old is like. The one I see looks pretty grim.

I dont begrudge anyone having two homes, or a lot of money, good for them

Exactly GM - don't parade all over the country with the 'I feel your pain' bullsh!t!

No one's buying it...

Yes siree - a lot of us common men regularly vacation in Martha's Vineyard.

Or $1 million dollar RVs.

Again I'm just J about the RV. The Vineyard ain't got nothin' on Havasu. No river skank and no Nattie Lights.

[No one's buying it...]

Oh, but Schpanky does...

Speaking of gold, just how much dod you lose today, "counselor"?

Feisty,

Obama is wealthy. He parades all over the country with the 'I feel your pain' bullsh!t. So tell me, what's the difference?

And nothing about Michele's costing the taxpayers 10 million in vacations last year.

I thought President Clinton pulled off "I feel your pain" very well. He came off very sincere.

President Obama doesn't even try to "feel your pain." He just blatantly demonizes those who disagree and those that are struggling.

Didn't Obama pay 19% in taxes last year?

The difference....he isn't signing pledges to Grover Norquist to never raise taxes on the rich. He is actually promoting raising taxes on himself.

Where do want the President of the US his wife and young daughters to vacation at Spanky, Cancun, Havusu, Vegas or rent your boat to watch "river skanks" in string bikinis. Personally I think he should have went somewhere like Branson, Mo. or the Grand Ole Opry now that would have been fun for all to see.

Maybe Apple can hire Carly Fiorina to take his place...after all, she did such a bang-up job with HP.

That sucks. The only stock I held onto was my Apple stock. Just couldn't seem to part with it.

I still even have some from my first purchase - $32 per share in 2003, and that all split.

man I wish I had a bunch of that. Sold most of it off already to increase the average basis. Capital gains is a bitch and all.

Maybe Mark Murray gave her that bit of information?

Candice-

I thought President Clinton pulled off "I feel your pain" very well. He came off very sincere.

President Obama doesn't even try to "feel your pain." He just blatantly demonizes those who disagree and those that are struggling.

Oh please Candice, President Obama is not President Clinton. The things he is/has done are sincere.

a. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans

b. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children

c. Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans.

d. Provided tax credits to first-time home buyers through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 to revitalize the U.S. housing market.

e. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return “home” to visit loved ones

f. Cracked down on companies that deny sick pay, vacation and health insurance to workers by abusing the employee classification of independent contractor. Such companies also avoid paying Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance taxes for those workers.

h. ended DADT Clinton initiated

g. got Health Care Reform for 300 million uninsured Clinton did not

i. Provided tax credit to workers thus cutting taxes for 95% of America’s working families

k. Passed the Lilly Ledbetter Act (equal work for equal pay)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilly_Ledbetter_Fair_Pay_Act_of_200

l. President Barack Obama on July 21, 2010. signed into law the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. It holds primary responsibility for regulating consumer protection in the United States.

Have not seen those hateful, bigoted, words and actions the T-Paarty have said and done to him like calling him tar baby, sticking a bone in his nose, and praying for him and his family to die?

Bev,

Sorry. I think he tries to look like he's relating to the "common folk" with an open collar and his sleeves rolled up. He is so divisive and comes off as arrogant and out of touch, in my opinion. Very disappointing.

I have to get some work done, so I have to go. I'll argue these points with you another time, though, okay?

You take care of yourself, Beverly. Stay healthy and strong.

Candice, it is perfectly clear no matter what President Obama did or how he acted or didn't act would disappoint you in some way.

How about being you are smarter that our president and all the liberals on this board how about telling us your brilliant plan for moving our country forward. You sure can complain about our president, lets hear your plans.

Annirich-3906587 banned, rereg of multiple accounter AnnieRich. Get out. -Tyler, moderator

#1.75 - Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:10 PM EDT

Following is a link to the bans and suspensions for August, a list in progress, by our friend on the Vine, Sir Richard Owen. He compiles this list every month.

http://uncle-milty.newsvine.com/_news/2011/07/31/7205099-201108-aug-2011-bansuspension-list-in-progress

You must have a lot of money then?

Bob-1887910

Drip, drip drip.....goes what little credibility First Read has....

Yet not a peep about Michelle Obama separately flying in to Martha's Vineyard, which itself may have cost the taxpayers more than Mitt's mansion.

Tell that to the poor smuck working hard and paying taxes!

Sponge Bob,

Watch Your Mouth When You Talk About Michelle Obama

The only thing that is dripping is you foolishness and bigotry. Your Mumbo Jumbo Sauce does not bode well with what you consume.

No matter where the First Lady goes she is to be protected.

Shery Lanford Smith, the chairwoman of Sumter Tea Party in South Carolina posted a joke about killing Michelle and Barack Obama earlier this month. Lanford Smith reportedly joked about throwing the couple out of a helicopter, then quickly removed it a few moments later from her face book page.

Would you say the same about Laura Bush?

That is not funny; particularly when Tea- Nuts set a climate for feigned outrage about the First Lady. BTW: Why isn't her ass in jail, investigated or something?

I see a double there.

Bev, Its not funny, could you please send me the link? Thank you.

The joke about the Obamas was not about "killing the Obamas", that is a lie.

It was the same harmless joke around for decades, told about numerous politicians, including many Presidents. The joke relates to who gets parachutes in an airplane that is going down.

But no jokes are allowed about their idol, Mr Obama.

Hey I got an Obama joke for you: did you hear the one about the bi-racial kid from a broken home, raised by a single mother until she died of cancer and he went to live with his old white grandparents. Well this kid he worked real hard, and got into some good schools, he became editor of the law review at Harvard actually. When he graduated instead of taking a instant big money job at a law firm he turned down all those offers and became a community organizer, and went into politics. Well he was elected to the state senate, then he gave a speech at the democratic convention and millions of people saw him and decided that he was nothing like all the scum-bum politicians they were getting so used to seeing. They felt they were seeing something special, something they were always told; that it does not matter who you are, that if you work hard and do the very best with the hand you are dealt you can be anything in America, even the president! So people encouraged him to run for president so he did, and he won the election, he became the first black on the outside bi-racial president of the USA. The kid made good by the ultimate measure in America, every black and white American could be proud of this young man. Now as it turns out many people really admire this young man of modest background for making the most of himself to accomplish the American dream by becoming the President of The United States of America, who gets to vacation with his family at Martha's Vineyard and many seem to hate him for the same reason. That's the joke, isn't that a hoot!

You know Bob you might not think he is qualified to be president, but he is very well qualified to be an idol. If you need an idol or just want to switch idols, this guy has the qualifications.

Of course....and can you believe that poor people are so irresponsible to spend their money on refirigerators and microwaves?

Oh, what a great choice....an out of touch guy who feels that a 12 million dollar house is too beneath him or a Bible thumping Texas hick. Hahaha...think I will pass on both, thank-you.