RUN Slick Rick RUN!

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And keep up the bible banging, God* seems to be on your side!!!

(* Clarification: The Christian one)

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That number is VERY telling...

When ALL you have a bowl of mixed nuts - do you chose the cashews or tea-nuts?

OK Gallup, so you post the disclaimer about the whole polla rolla and 1040 folks, Teapublican/or leaning, asked equally ambiguous questions over the phone!

Stop with the polling since there is so very much room for error as admitted!

"In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls."

That's the BEST news I've heard in weeks... lol

RUN Slick Rick RUN!

I remember thinking the same thing about George Bush in 1999, McCain would be the stronger general election candidate. There was no way Bush could beat Al Gore.

Just watch what you wish for.

Feisty: I like that "Slick Rick" name. It may cacth on like "Tricky Dick". The GOPTP picked a candidate that cannot win. Things are looking up for President Obama.

A 12 point lead in the polls is significant.

There was no way Bush could beat Al Gore.

PSSST - HE DIDN"T!

SCOTUS handed it to him on a silver platter...

I seem to recall Al Gore actually won the poplular vote... ;o)

Things are looking up for President Obama.

They sure are Ron...

What the RWNJ's refuse to acknowledge is 17% has NO preference... lol

I'd hardly call that 'Fired Up & Ready to Go!

Oh, and then there's the 12% approval rating for Teapublican's in Congress...

Feisty:

I agree, looks like Bachmann's 15 mins. of fame has expired.

Perry is still going to have his book around his neck and about a dozen of other frauds and lies. The Dems should buy copies and send them out to common sense folk.

Look the old republican guard to start really shaking the bushes now for another candidate.

Slick Rick is trying to do a 'crawfish'....that's what we call a walk back down here!

...and you can bet he wants to look back and erase everything he's done over the last 10 years.

Ain't gonna happen Rick.......you're on the National Stage, you can run, but you can't hide!

RUN Slick Rick RUN!

I remember thinking the same thing about George Bush in 1999

Carter was really happy he got to run against Reagan. At least at first.

PSSST - HE DIDN"T!

SCOTUS handed it to him on a silver platter...

I seem to recall Al Gore actually won the poplular vote... ;o)

Yes he won the popular vote, but we use a thing called the electoral college. And if you claim the SCOTUS changed the result then show me the link. Every analysis of a recount by NY Times, LA Times couldn't cume up with scenario in which Gore would win Florida.

Now if you want to claim that the Democrats of West Palm Beach screwed up with the butterfly ballot then you have an argument.

And if you claim the SCOTUS changed the result then show me the link

No Alan, my claim is, WHY didn't they allow EVERY vote to be counted?

What were they so afraid of?

Free & Open government my a@@...

Every analysis of a recount by NY Times, LA Times couldn't cume up with scenario in which Gore would win Florida.

AHHH!

Nothing but more speculation - see my directly above.

Alan we will never know if Al Gore actually won the election or not. 2000, the election that wasn't and the first appointment of the President of the United States by the Supreme Corporate of the United States.

With all of the problems Slick Rick has, along with the issues Romney has, I wonder if the establishment GOP will settle on Huntsman or just give up for this election season. They may be putting up candidates now to see if they can be the President in 2016, once the Tea Party problem is eliminated. That is one problem that Murdoch expanded which the majority of the Republican party now regrests.

No Alan, my claim is, WHY didn't they allow EVERY vote to be counted?

What votes didn't they count? Even with slightly dimpled indentations it wouldn't have overturned the count. But on the other hand if you think Pat Buchanan got 8,000+ votes in WPB.....

WHY didn't they allow EVERY vote to be counted?

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Because Al gore didn't want that to happen. He wanted to cherry pick only the voting districts that would give him the most votes for the recount.

Nasty, can you tell FR what the vote was in that decision and which justices voted for and against the decision??

LOL!!!

What do you care Alan, your guy got to be Pres. how ever much a mistake that may have been, you gonna plow that same field again..... We are trying to recover from his policies.

Bush wasn't good. I voted for Gore at the time I'm fairly certain he would have sucked too. We now know he is a liar and a cheat .....at home too.

Are you people freaking kidding me?

Bringing up the 2004 election in 2011? My God, get over it.

Really?

Go ahead and try to run against George Bush again, Go ahead.

Good luck.

Al Gore lost the electoral vote count not just because he lost Florida (stolen or not), it's because he lost his home state of Tennessee. When he conceded the election he said it himself.

As for what I'll do next, I don't know the answer to that one yet. Like many of you, I'm looking forward to spending the holidays with family and old friends. I know I'll spend time in Tennessee and mend some fences, literally and figuratively.

Some have asked whether I have any regrets and I do have one regret: that I didn't get the chance to stay and fight for the American people over the next four years, especially for those who need burdens lifted and barriers removed, especially for those who feel their voices have not been heard. I heard you and I will not forget.

I've seen America in this campaign and I like what I see. It's worth fighting for and that's a fight I'll never stop.

As for the battle that ends tonight, I do believe as my father once said, that no matter how hard the loss, defeat might serve as well as victory to shape the soul and let the glory out.

And now, my friends, in a phrase I once addressed to others, it's time for me to go.

(Emphasis added)

Sorry to say it because I voted for him and I know he would have been a much better President than GW. You just can't lose your home state and win.

Feisty: I like that "Slick Rick" name. It may cacth on like "Tricky Dick".

I like Rick Scary myself.

Devie you hit the nail on the head and you didn't call anybody names. Wow refreshing for FR.

WCA: Are you people freaking kidding me?

Bringing up the 2004 election in 2011? My God, get over it.

Really?

Come'on WC - The lefties that lurk these pages are hardcore. They'll never get over it. They'll never give up the struggle, and they are struggling. Just look at them with Obama. No way they'll ever turn on him, he's their hero. Obama could cut taxes on the wealthy, raise them on the poor, slash Medicare and Social Security, appoint Grover Norquist to the Supreme Court, start a few more wars, and all would be forgiven with this liberal bunch. They just love the guy.

Once Perry gets a National audience and has to speak himself and think for himself the world will know he is not a leader, he does not have a plan. Just think how wonderful it would be, apply Texas record to the US. 26% without health care, 25% of all children living below poverty level, 66% High School graduation, 10% making at or below minimum wage, Low paying jobs for all middle class, guns on every college campus in the country, mandated sonograms for all women wanting or needing an abortion, a New Apostolic Reformation Bible in every nightstand... man I cannot wait. This is what he has done to my state if you vote for him because he is a Tea party (or not) you will have many regrets, learn before you vote. I cannot wait for the next debate and I hope he is in it, it should be on the comedy channel...

@ Feisty

Perry/Palin 2012 - two nut jobs for the price of one!

two nut jobs for the price of one and half a brain between them...

What do you care Alan, your guy got to be Pres.

No he didn't. I wanted Gore to win. Bush was such a disaster even Kerry would have been an improvement. Do you ever read posts. When have I ever had a good word for Bush? What I find depressing is how many of Bush's policies Obama has continued. (Patriot Act, Tax Rates, Rendition, Afghanistan, Drone Attacks, Drunken Deficit Spending, cherry picking law enforcement). I find it amazing that you think there's this huge difference between the last administration and the current one.

WCA you have to remember your history, lest you be condemned to repeat it.

George W. Bush was appointed President by 4 qualified Supreme Court Justices and Thomas. They stopped a recount on December 9 and on December 12 said there was not sufficient time for a valid recount. This decision, along with the Dredd Scott case, will be reviewed as the worst decisions the US Supreme Court has ever made.

Yup, the SC stopped the count in Florida....

.......thereby appointing W!

Election controversy

" In that election, Bush had lost the nationwide popular vote to Vice President Al Gore, yet narrowly defeated Gore in the Electoral College by the narrow margin of 271–266. A five-week-long battle over extremely close results in Florida ended when the Supreme Court abruptly terminated the state's month-long recounts on December 13, 2000. As a result of this, Bush won the state by 537 votes, the result of a November 27 recount that had been certified by Florida's Secretary of State, Katharine Harris. This judicial resolution was disputed by the Gore campaign and many other Democrats, since even the narrowest win for Gore in Florida would have been enough to make him President.

Recounts following the November 27 certification by Harris had narrowed Bush's lead to just 125 votes when the U.S. Supreme Court declared George W Bush the winner in their December 13 ruling."

dirp:

wow Dredd Scott, I have not heard that name in a while...

lol the GOP is putting all of their stock in a guy who got a "D" in Economics 101. God bless those little minded, right-wing voters. They don't know any better, poor things.

got a "D" in Economics 101.

May explain why he has never had a job outside of Government jobs. I hear people say all the time how good he is at business, that must be political monkey business they are talking about..

"SLICK RICK" IS COPYRIGHTED. The name belongs to an 80's rapper that was very popular and he has sued before on behalf of his name.

Chilled: "Stop with the polling since there is so very much room for error as admitted!"

Hey, chilled, if you liked those disclaimers, how about this one from the same link? :

"Landline respondents are chosen at random within each household on the basis of which member had the most recent birthday."

My company specializes more in business and medical opinion research, but we did some political polling back in 2004 and I pitched in on the phones myself for a while as well as monitoring some other callers, and I can guarantee you that this methodology is nothing more than a pollster's fantasy in terms of reaching a supposedly "random" sampling. Here's how a typical conversation would go:

Interviewer: "Hello, my name is ____— and I'm conducting an opinion research poll for _____. May I please speak to the person in your household who had the most recent birthday?"
Respondent: "Well, my husband's the oldest, but he's not here right now. Can I help you?"
Interviewer: "No, ma'am, I don't mean the oldest, I mean the person who had the most recent birthday".
Respondent: "Oh, well we just had a party last week for my 13-year-old. Do you want to talk to her?"
Interviewer: :"No, ma'am, we need to speak to someone who is 18 years of age or older who is planning to vote in the presidential election who had the most recent birthday".
Respondent: "Well, I'm 39 and I'm planning to vote - can't you talk to me?"
Interviewer: "Are you the person in the household who's 18 or older who had the most recent birthday?"
Respondent: "What difference does it make when my birthday is? I'm a Gemini, but my son is a Virgo."
Interviewer: "Great, can we speak with your son?"
Respondent: "He's away at college. Why don't you want to talk to me? Is it because I'm a Republican and my son's a Democrat? Or is this age discrimination?"
Interviewer(sighing heavily): "Okay, ma'am, I'll talk to you."
Respondent: "I can't, I'm just sitting down to dinner. Can you call me back tomorrow?"

I know I tried my level best, as did a few of our other more conscientious interviewers. But most call centers pay on the basis of production, and most interviewers are not professionals. And there's generally a lot of pressure on them not to accept "Don't know" as a response, which ends up in the interviewer sometimes leading the respondent. And that's before we even get into the discussion of the question wording being leading itself.

It's an interesting job. But it's a long way from being as scientific as the pollsters would like to believe it is.

"SLICK RICK" IS COPYRIGHTED. The name belongs to an 80's rapper that was very popular and he has sued before on behalf of his name.

A better ~ AND CONSIDERABLY MORE ACCURATE ~ nickname if derived by just placing a lower case "p" in front of his name. Most Texans who really know him may have that outcome copyrighted, also ~ but I doubt they would sue.

Keep shovelling the inane crap, lib folks. No amount of insults or juvenile namecalling can change the fact that Perry has Obama in deep trouble. He's already even with him in the pollls, and as Barry's inept performance continues over the next 14 months, the gap will widen.

I am thinking Scary Parry with an A.

Well I prefer Mr Perry and Mr Obama! Of course you can be as ignorant as you want, its your choice. We know that the gimme gimme gang of liberals can call people names and are proficient at verbal abuse! It does not require the rest of us have to be that way!

This dickhead perry thinks that S.S., and Medicare are "UNCONSTITUTIONAL"

Just wondering if Rick Perry becomes president, will we all be required to read and follow his book "F'd UP"?? Does anyone know who the Co-Author is? Sure alot of similarities to Moammar Gadhafi's "Green Book"!!

Its funny how all the Libs on the site can't come up with any factual information to discredit Perry, instead they are like Feisty Redhead...all they can do is get catty and call names...the true sign of loosing an argument...or in this case a presidential election!

jollyoldsoul1

Well I prefer Mr Perry and Mr Obama! Of course you can be as ignorant as you want, its your choice. We know that the gimme gimme gang of liberals can call people names and are proficient at verbal abuse! It does not require the rest of us have to be that way!

Haha... does anyone else see the humor and stupidity of this post?

I wonder if we will choose a President with governing experience next election cycle. If Obama gets elected again then the answer to that one is NO, even after 4 years as President. He signs legislation but only if it originates from the Senate. Obama's signature is all he has because any policies he has tried to get through either of the houses have failed miserably or got vote down with not a single vote from his own party. How radical are you if your own budget plan gets voted down 97-0 in a democratically controlled Senate.

I liked the name slick willie and his lies, I did not have sex with that young lady.

Mark L, we libs post factual information all the time. Right-wingers don't listen to facts and common sense, but rather what their preachers, daddies, and FauX News tell them to believe. If you arent seeing facts in the Newsvine, then you're just blind.

lmao........ And Im the pope.....bless you my child for you have sinned! Those are not facts my child those are opinions and your allowed them. It doesnt mean your right or that you will win!

If you arent seeing facts in the Newsvine, then you're just blind.

Facts are kryptonite to the tea baggers...

They're not necessarily blind, just too stupid to do their own homework... ;o)

I especially get a kick out of when they dispute sources even though there are quotes involved.... lol

The sheep may now continue to graze.... BAAAAA!

Robert 1960: Dredd Scott breing the SECOND worst decision the SCOTUS ever made tells you how bad the decision in Gore v Bush really was. The decision itself was not a majority, but rather a plurality, with multiple opinions, not one of which could get 5 votes in favor of it. Thus, the appointment of George W. Bush as the 43rd president of the United States.

His being ahead would be funny if this were a movie.

His being ahead would be a Democrat's dream if this were only politics.

His being ahead IS a crying shame because it speaks to the mindset of 29% of Republicans... and THAT is scary!

cygnus you must have graduated within the last 20 or so years and have been part of the dumbing down of America plan put in place by liberals during the early 80's, their plan was to have you and others believe that goverment is the solution, but they are the problem, so please dont share your stupidy with us, you see you are the problem, you and the millions of others that believed Obama was the answer.

Perry, the best that the GOP's got and he's not even electable. I just love the GOP reality show.

Sorry Feisty...things MIGHT be looking better for Obama but not for us. I must agree with Alan,NJ that I'm not seeing the difference in Obama and Bushco that I wanted. I cannot vote for him again under any circumstances. We need to draft Howard Dean- an intellectual who has the stones to engage in a bloody fight when your core values are 0n the line. I dont think Obama stands for anything but expedience. No more Obama. If my choice is to vote for Obama or Perry, then my choice is to move to France or Norway because we're fuc*ed either way. We need Howard Dean.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

While I think redheads are hot and the feistier the better, maybe you should explain exactly how Obama's tenure has been good for you. Maybe free health care for the poor?

I find it interesting how many people follow party line without actually seeing that none of them is actually working for America's best interests, only their own. And while I can't get behind the tea party due to their religious fanaticism, most of the things they stand for are American to the constitutional core. Maybe instead of believing what you are told or see in the media, you should research it a little. Read about Ron Paul who is called the grandfather of the tea party, who refused the government pension, still works as a doctor delivering most of the babies in his district, doesn't believe in foreign intervention, gives free help to people instead of taxing medicare, etc etc etc.

Open your eyes and the next time you post consider whether you are so consumed with whether you could rather than whether you should.

Post #1 Again NO sign of human Intelligence ......

Again...Feisty Redhead & gang of the MSNBC crew leads the comments. One would think that the fact they get to write/contribute to the articles would be enough.

justoneguy

Really - I am SO flattered that I get YOUR dander up! ;o))

BTW -- Would YOU please explain what exactly you contributed to the conversation?

On another note - you just can't seem to get enogh of the MSNBC website - I would suggest you invest in a Garmin or something that will find your way home!

29% Perry.......That's the BEST news I've heard in weeks... lol

Actually, the better news is Obama's 38% job approval rating and 26% for his handling of the economy (Gallup).

Just keep calling Perry stupid/idiot/moron/cowboy. It's music to our ears because that's what we heard just before Reagan won 44 states.

So jollyoldsoul1, you call liberals names while you complain they call you names and profess to be above that? That is pretty funny and very mature.

And wayne, just because you don't agree with cygnus doesn't mean you know anything about him/her or need to insult anyone.

...again Feisty and on the question. How do you manage 1st up at every single First Read? Politically, you're so polarized and hateful I've really ever nothing to say about your empty derogatory comments and pithy insults.

justoneguy

She works for MSNBC, and if you haven't noticed most of their stories are liberal slanted.

Perry's that popular?

Perry's constitutional ANARCHISTS (known as "Tenthers"), and his religious right ZEALOTS must be praying to God daily, to seize control of this country!

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Rally ’Round the “True Constitution”

Convinced that the 10th Amendment of the Constitution prohibits spending programs and regulations? Conservatives have a movement for you.

After years of raging against mythical judges who “legislate from the bench,” tenther conservatives now demand a constitution that will not let anyone legislate at all.

prospect.org/cs/articles?article=rally_round_the_true_constitution

Rick Perry's Army of God

A little-known movement of radical Christians and self-proclaimed prophets wants to infiltrate government, and Rick Perry might be their man.

Excerpts:

The movement is called the New Apostolic Reformation. Believers fashion themselves modern-day prophets and apostles. They have taken Pentecostalism, with its emphasis on ecstatic worship and the supernatural, and given it an adrenaline shot.

The movement’s top prophets and apostles believe they have a direct line to God. Through them, they say, He communicates specific instructions and warnings.

What makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government. The new prophets and apostles believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take “dominion” over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the “Seven Mountains” of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they’re intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they’re leading an “army of God” to commandeer civilian government.

It sounds so fringe but yet it’s not fringe,” Tabachnick says. “They’ve been working with Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Sam Brownback, and now Rick Perry. ... They are becoming much more politically noticeable.”

The Texas group is part of a larger 50-state network of prophets, apostles and prayer intercessors called the Heartland Apostolic Network, which itself overlaps with the Reformation Prayer Network run by Jacobs.

The Response itself seems patterned on TheCall, day-long worship and prayer rallies usually laced with anti-gay and anti-abortion messages.

TheCall—also the name of a Kansas City-based organization—is led by Lou Engle, an apostle who looks a bit like Mr. Magoo and has the unnerving habit of rocking back and forth while shouting at his audience in a raspy voice. (Engle is also closely associated with the International House of Prayer—, Mike Bickle’s 24/7 prayer center in Kansas City.)

Engle frequently mobilizes his followers in the service of earthly causes, holding raucous prayer events in California to help pass Prop 8, the anti-gay marriage initiative, and making an appearance in Uganda last year to lend aid to those trying to pass a law that would have imposed the death penalty on homosexuals.

But Engle's larger aim is Christian control of government.

“The church’s vocation is to rule history with God,” he has said.

Moreover, various media outlets have documented a possible coalescing of religious-right leaders around Perry’s candidacy. Time magazine reported on a June conference call among major evangelical leaders, including religious historian David Barton and San Antonio pastor John Hagee, in which they “agreed that Rick Perry would be their preferred candidate if he entered the race,” according to the magazine.

Journalist Tabachnick says politicians are attracted to the apostolic movement because of the valuable organizational structure and databases the leadership has built.

“I believe it’s because they’ve built such a tremendous communication network,” she says, pointing to the 50-state prayer networks plugged into churches and ministries. “They found ways to work that didn’t involve the institutional structures that many denominations have. They don’t have big offices, headquarters. They work more like a political campaign.”

www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god

This just in...

Aug 20, 12:30 AM EDT, Charlotte Gazette

Rick Perry proposes "Faith based" healthcare and retirement systems.

By Karen Klingenhammer

Rock Mountain, S.C.- Presidential candidate, Rick Perry, responded to challenges by critics today about alternatives for seniors after the "Big Government" entitlement programs like Medicare and Social Security that Perry derides were slashed or ended by a Perry Administration.

"We need to transition away from a government run system to a private, faith based system", Perry offered.

"I will personally lead national days of prayer once a month to help the old and sick". We just have to stop relying on the federal and state governments to do everything for us", Perry declared.

"Prayer" is a viable option for seniors in need of food, shelter or medical care, Perry contended, instead of hand outs from the government.

"American's belief in God has always been their strongest and most shining quality" Perry continued. "We can't keep taxing the wealth creators, the people who create businesses and jobs, to pay for these things and still have a robust and healthy economy. The kind of economy we all want".

Perry stated that the pastor of his church had relayed many stories to him over the years of "miracles" that had occurred after the disabled or sick had put their faith in Jesus and prayed for divine assistance.

"One woman had 45 dollars left in the bank and won the lottery just as her rent came due", Perry noted, "and a retired man who had a social disease was cured after he washed the affected body part in water blessed by an evangelist.

"The evangelist wanted to wash if for him", Perry related, "but the guy thought that was kinda weird and declined the offer".

Perry will be addressing the Knights of Golgotha, in Raleigh, NC, tonight on a faith based Energy Policy and the Free-Market.

http://drdapo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Rick-Perry-2.jpg

Rick Perry is connected with the New Apostolic Reformation which is a group of christian fundamentalists who think the world has been taken over by demons who are led by Satan. This group was a part of Rick Perry's Prayer Rally on August 6th. They need to reclaim the seven mountains, which are business, government, media, arts & entertainment, education, family, and religion for God. Reclaiming the seven mountains is what they think is needed to prepare the world for the second coming of Jesus (also called the rapture). These people do not believe in separation of church and state. Rick Perry believes that being president would put him in the position to reclaim the seven mountains. In other words everybody, Rick Perry wants to run your life based on his religious beliefs. He and the New Apostolic Reformation do not believe in freedom of religion. They believe their religion is the only religion (so no Catholics, Hindhus, Muslims and any other Christian sects will be tolerated). And that is factual information on why Rick Perry should not be the president of the United States.

candymaker

Are these the same people that say Obama is a radical Islamist? The one's we're supposed to ignore because they're kooks? Or do these innuendos count because they're implicated against a person you're not in approval of?

~Good Grief~

The Repubs and Teapartiers are working as quickly and hard as they can to do as much as possible to obstruct people from voting. That's all they have left.

On the other hand, if the Republican nominee is Rick Perry (which I doubt after this early stage polling), it's game, set, match for Obama. The thought of running against an extremist on the right has to have the White House jumping for joy.

Feisty Redhead,

What's funnier than the 17% number you're making fun of is that nearly 30% of Democrats want a different candidate than the one they have and their candidate is a sitting president! Now THAT'S telling.

Since fiesty redhead is making her stupid comments at all hours of the day and night I'm betting she is an unattractive overweight HS dropout who lives in her parents basement and eats donuts in between smoking joints while she waits for her gov't handout. Typical liberal I guess.

I want Representatives not Puppets and puppet masters.

Ron Paul is the only Republican left. I am not even sure what the rest of these people are?

Other than Ron Paul all I have heard is the same repetitive ideological mumbo jumbo.

So far Perry is just a well groomed pigeon put him back in his cage.

We need Republicans and Democrats not left and right wing. ============================

We need both of these corporate parties to support the middle class. Drop the left and right and work to restore the middle, your killing us.

Journalists? Why do we never see the story of why the majority of Americans don't VOTE!

You want Balance this is where you start! The silent majority!

Just had to check out the comments on this article...not surprised about the bashing going on...and here comes more whining about Bush, Gore, etc.

Bottom line is that this election should be about Mr. Obama's performance as president and that performance has been a disaster. Even his speeches are a snooze...like one long recording with a few tidbits tossed in to address the issue of the day. Great to watch if one wants to fall asleep...just like our economy has fallen asleep under Mr. Obama's watch.

Not sure how anyone can make the twisted case why this guy should be re-elected...if he was up to the job, nobody would have to come up with a convoluted explanation why he should be.

LOL....Mr. Obama will lose to any opponent. Here are a FEW reasons:

1. Mr. Obama 2008 Presidential election campaign promises: http://www.theospark.net/2009/09/video-7-lies-in-under-2-minutes.html
2. Mr. Obama - Promises NO Earmarks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0Grra3QHs
3. Mr. Obama - Mr. Obama's agenda is SEIU's agenda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ1NJaCtIkM
4. Mr. Obama - Jokes that "his" Stimulus of $ 862,000,000,000 taxpayer dollars supporting shovel ready jobs were not so shovel ready: http://exposethemedia.com/2011/06/13/video-obama-jokes-about-shovel-ready-projects/
5. Mr. Obama - Epic Failures: http://townhall.com/columnists/donaldlambro/2010/08/26/obamas_epic_failures
6. Mr. Obama - Mulling Amnesty for Illegal Aliens 'By Other Means': http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5638358/obama_administration_mulling_amnesty.html?cat=9
7. Mr. Obama approval rating hits new low: http://www.gallup.com/poll/148739/Obama-Approval-Drops-New-Low.aspx
8. Mr. Obama - 41 White House aides have failed to pay their back IRS taxes: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/09/congress-taxes-irs.html
9. Black Caucus: Tired of making excuses for Obama: http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/black-caucus-tired-making-excuses-obama

Yep, the Liberals will continue to bash anyone who opposes Mr. Obama's agenda.

Ido...

It is still pretty tough to bet against the combination of the kiddie-vote, minority vote, and government union employee vote that are Mr. Obama's and his party's special mix of voters. He has a big skinny leg up with that group !

I've been involved in politics on a local and national scale for over 30 years and have seen plenty of unqualified candidates run for many different positions. I've seen a few elected to those offices...but most not. That said...I have never in my life witnessed a greater unqualified candidate than Rick Perry. The fact that he is in the race should be a total embarrassment to the GOP...let alone the fact that he is leading the pack. This speaks volumes as to where the Republican Party is at this point in time. I am ecstatic at this revelation! This buffoon is so not electable...the Democrats could run Casey Anthony against this guy and still win by 20 points. The GOP strategy mystifies me...you have a candidate like John Huntsman...who by all accounts would be your ONLY shot at victory...and the GOP electorate ignores him like the plague? Are you Republicans that far out of touch with reality? I, for one hope so! Run Ricky...run!! Keep up the good work GOP...we Progressives are counting on you! Oh...BTW...I have the perfect campaign name for Texas Ricky...D-O-U-C-H-E-B-A-G. Save your Evangelical crap for Sunday School Ricky!

The kiddie-vote is not nearly as energized since they started figuring out that they're footing the bill for all of this past, present, and future excess and which party is putting the brakes on as opposed to putting the pedal to the metal.

"I've been involved in politics on a local and national scale for over 30 years and have seen plenty of unqualified candidates run for many different positions." - Mucker87

You mean a community organizer who was Senator for a year and a half before running to be the most powerful man on earth?

Mike...

My daughter was attending an extremely liberal colege in Connecticut during the last election. Her campus was like a carnival sideshow whipping up votes for Mr. Obama....posters, rallies, and professors all hawking the man-who-would-be-prince.

She laid out the whole thing for me, but said she had no plan to vote for anyone since she had not been following the issues, campaigns, debates...none of it. She did not think it was right to cast a vote for absolutely no valid reason...other than the campus carnival barkers asking her to.

Unfortunately...Democrat candidates make their living gettings votes from people who have no idea what the real issues are...do not follow the campaigns...and barely have an idea what people are actually in the debates, let alone actually watch them.

I can agree with conservatives when they say Obama has not done what he promised. I completely agree with that. I wish the Democrat candidate in 2012 was someone else. I believed in Obama's change when that was his campaign talking-point. Unfortunately, hardly anything has changed. I do have to blame Republicans for fighting every bit of change that Obama put forth, but I blame Obama 100% for being too passive. However, there is no way in hell that I would vote for another Republican president until I see a colossal shift in their thinking. The lack of progress Obama has made is nothing compared to the damage previous Republican presidents have caused.

B-1768549...

I understand your frustration...I too believe that President Obama has not been assertive in his fight for the middle class. He would do well to take a page from Harry Truman's "Book of Tact and Diplomacy". You must understand that he has had to deal with the most intense political obstructionism of any President in this country's history. Obstruction, filibusters, TP lies, movement to the extreme right by the core of the GOP, no compromise, and blatant racism. I too will take Obama over anything the GOP puts out there and hope that he will simply tell the Teabaggers to go to hell, where they came from!

Mike in SA....We sat through 8 years with a man (G. W. Bush) that couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time and had a hard time pronouncing elementary school level words and you have the gall to malign President Obama, who is 100 fold better qualified to be POTUS. No wonder this country is in trouble with a misinformed electorate like you. This man forgot more about politics, economics, and communication than GW could possibly learn the rest of his sorry Conservative life. Put this into perspective...GW is better qualified than any of the GOP clowns running right now...with the exception of maybe John Huntsman. Now that's just a bit scary!

ANY candidate that supports a negative change to Social Security and/or Medicare will never sit in the Oval Office...fact...fact...fact!!

time4truth: Bush wasn't good. I voted for Gore at the time I'm fairly certain he would have sucked too.

I'm quite certain Gore would have been (and should have been) an excellent president.

We now know he is a liar and a cheat .....at home too.

We do? How did you come to that conclusion????

So the guy who screamed at Texas to secede now is telling everyone he is the one to hold the US together?

Right.............and if you believe that I have a bridge I want to sell you.

Perry is crazy...........nuts..............non qualified for office............a puppet for big money...............a liar......a charlatan and uses his religion as a marketing tool...........

where does the GOP get these people?

If this is the GOP's idea of a good candidate for the office of the President is should make you wonder....are they really that bright and what are they getting out of it, because it sure as heck looks like the rest of us would get royally screwed...

but, hey, if that is what all the dumb voting public wants then it should be a hoot watching them live Perry's dream.........................things will get real ugly. If folks think things are bad now......give the GOP 4 years and watch the great US migration to parts other than the US.

Canada and Europe are looking real good right about now.

It is just embarrassing that we have the greatest education system in the world, some of the greatest minds in the world and yet the dumbest greediest wealthiest morons are elected to office.

Unbelievable.

mucker87, Wow! That was objective...not.

I mean seriously, when Obama ran for president, he had no executive experience at all and was on the national stage for what...5 minutes? And he was somehow more qualified??? What a joke.

Just some facts for y'all. After the 2000 election, a number of news organizations took every Florida ballot and recounted them. They recounted them multiple ways, dimples, chads, and all. They wanted to settle once and for all who got the most votes in Florida. Guess who still won. Guess what page of the newspaper it was reported on. I am pretty sure it was announced in the fall after 9/11. By this time, no one cared but the crazies.

Bush won Florida and the election fair and square. The only thing the Supreme Court did was speed it up a bit. Gore still lost.

A poster way up the way said it correctly: If Gore would have won Tennessee, he would have been president.

I know full well Gore won the popular vote, but that don't cut it. It could have gone the other way around. In 2012, the election will be close. Perry could win Texas and the South by huge margins and lose the election by losing a few battleground states by a few thousand votes. He could win the popular and lose the electoral. So could Obama. For either party, it is very possible ( although rare) to lose the popular and win the electoral. If you want it fixed, stop whining and go fix it.

One more thing most of you have forgot. Since 2000, the media does not call states before polls close in those states. I don't think they should "project" at all. Dan Rather called Florida for Gore before the polls closed in the Panhandle ( central time zone and the most conservative part of the state). Who knows how many people in Florida, the Midwest and the west stayed home because Dan Rather had announced the winner before people even got home from work?

FYI, Perry and Bachmann are not wealthy. The GOP candidate with serious money is Romney.

Mike in SA...

No objectivity required here...just plain old common sense. There is no standard resume for POTUS...there is no requirement for government or business experience. In fact...business executives and career politicians have run this country into the ground...what we are going through right now falls squarely on their shoulders. The only requirement is to understand what is needed to ensure success for this country via the wishes and will of the majority. Just because YOU don't agree with the common sense path that President Obama has taken, doesn't mean that the desires of the majority aren't being fulfilled. You delusional Conservatives can rant all you want about the Obama Health care Plan...but the vast, vast, vast majority of US citizens wanted universal health care. Just like the vast majority want to keep Social Security and Medicare in tact. Part of the problem is that the Conservatives think that you can run the US economy like a business...when in fact...every economist known to man (except those paid by FOX News) disagrees with that path. Business philosophy will destroy our economy...thank God Obama understands those economic short comings! You guys need to get off the experience crap...that's old dead rhetoric and is not an issue...especially after 8 years of that Texas moron! Get over it man!

Mike in SA...

This is a genuine question. From a Conservative point of view...why is Rick Perry a better candidate than John Huntsman at this point in the process? Seriously??

Gary: , a number of news organizations took every Florida ballot and recounted them. They recounted them multiple ways, dimples, chads, and all. They wanted to settle once and for all who got the most votes in Florida. Guess who still won. Guess what page of the newspaper it was reported on. I am pretty sure it was announced in the fall after 9/11. By this time, no one cared but the crazies.

You mean the ballots that weren't thrown out.

I found it very strange that the exit polls, which had always been reliable in the past, but were mysteriously way off that night, showed Gore the winner.

mucker87, I see you're another liberal who espouses "It's so because I say it's so!", as a valid point of document. You take any standardized test that shows your guy to be less qualified and dismiss it with a waive of a hand and a throaty shout of "Forget objective analysis! I like my guy's policies better! That proves he's more qualified!" That's laughable.

"You delusional Conservatives can rant all you want about the Obama Health care Plan...but the vast, vast, vast majority of US citizens wanted universal health care. Just like the vast majority want to keep Social Security and Medicare in tact."

By a double digit margin people don't like the mandatory health insurance law that was rammed down our throats. This basically makes your: "The only requirement is to understand what is needed to ensure success for this country via the wishes and will of the majority" statement a big joke. But let me guess, you're going to blame Republicans even through Democrats went out of their way to circumvent standard legislative procedure so that they could pass it with only 50% in the Senate...a 50% they clearly had. The Dems could have passed any health care reform they wanted doing it the way they did. So blaming Republicans is only a partisan rationalization and refusal of holding your party accountable for not meeting your goals -- merely finger-pointing again.

And as far as Social Security and Medicare goes you can dismount that disingenuous horse you're riding. The most prominent conservative proposals related to SS and Medicare regard delaying benefits and tying them too life expectancy which is completely logical and necessary. You're "do nothing" plan? It ends up with retirees getting scraps in the not distant future. But hey, why keep you from believing in rainbows and unicorns?

As for your claim that universal health care was supported by a "vast majority of US citizens", that's also more than a bit disingenuous. US citizens were for universal health care under the impossible scenario in which there was absolutely no trade-off or consequence. They were either ambivalent or against it as soon as known consequences were added to the equation, like physician restrictions/waiting for non-emergency procedures or higher taxes. I can also point to poll after poll after poll showing that what was shoved down our throats was absolutely NOT supported by US citizens, even many from Democratic polling sources.

And yes...seriously...Perry over Huntsman. Perry is a proven, strong states rights, limited federal government, limited regulation, non-cap and trade, individual's rights candidate with a history of job growth during the toughest of times. Huntsman strikes out on half of these attributes.

Mike in SA...

Its your lie man...you can tell it however you want! Not sure where??? you're getting your poll numbers, but I would take a much closer look at legitimacy if I were you. Trust me...you will see the true feelings of the American public on November 6, 2012. Bottom line...Rick Perry simply can't win...his mindless and illogical far right wing Conservative speak has/will continue to place him far outside the electorate. I see his fast rising star fading into the sunset well before Christmas. Every time this man opens his mouth he is losing poll points and will soon be carrying Bachmann's garment bag. We Progressives are very patient...we will sit back and watch the GOP systematically implode as a result of coat tailing the Teabaggers. They were your inspiration to ride a radical far right wing wave as a party...they will also serve as the GOP's Grim Reaper. Radical fringes don't win Presidential elections...plain and simple. BTW...there is mental health treatment for severe delusion...I'm sure there are group sessions you and some of your "friends" could attend. BTW #2...I spend a great deal of time in Canada and have many Canadien friends and the issues with their Universal Healthcare system have been blown well out of proportion by the FOX News sheep....Baaaaa....Baaaaa....Baaaa! LMFAO!

Mucker you sucker. You're right!

mucker87, like I said, your only documentation supporting your false claim is the classic liberal "It's so because I say it's so!" I give you 2 CNN polls and 1 ABC poll as proof to debunk your false assertion and you come back with the all powerful -- in liberal minds -- "trust me". What a joke.

rainbows + unicorns = liberal "facts"

If you are counting on his job creation to be the wind in his sails, you obviously haven't read much on how he created the jobs.

I expect his job creations fantasy to hit the doldrums with a rocking boat and flapping sails.

TX under Perry has record job growth - in minimum wage jobs that is, you know. the jobs that cater to the very rich, you know, the people Perry wants to protect from taxation. Sorry, but if this is his vision for the entire US, to render all of the middle class as peasants and serfs for the rich upper class, anyone who supports him is a total idiot.

You have a problem, AF. It's called the Internet.

So, you repeat lies that are easily debunked- which does, what, do you think, to your credibility?

Meanwhile, Obama's failures are legion- and legendary. There isn't a person who cannot tell you the unemployment number- although fewer of them know that it would be 13%, had not BLS so helpfully reclassified three million people out of the labor force, driving the civilian labor force down to a level not seen since 1983.

Do you oppose all of those people hit the lottery?

One out of six Texans works for the Federal Government.

"the number of government jobs in Texas has grown at more than double the rate of private-sector employment during Perry’s tenure."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html

The $25,049,404,902 in federal stimulus funds Texas received didn't hurt the employment rate either.

http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/agency/Pages/StateTotalsByAgency.aspx

Amy--those would be jobs from the same federal government that Perry wants to secede from, right?

Wrong again, Amy.

http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.tx.htm

Learn to read a data table.

Texas' government employment- total of federal, state, Nd local- peaked in 2010 at 3.8% of the labor force, and has declined since then.

Gee, what happened in 2010? Oh, yeah- theCensus.

Stick to inanity- that's your forte. That, and mocking the disabled.

We are all stupid but nojo. Apparently when you mock her, you are mocking the disabled.

At least the intellectual disarmed.

No Jo I didn't do the math myself, I relied on the Washington Post:

Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workforce in Texas.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/perry-criticizes-government-while-texas-job-growth-benefits-from-it/2011/08/18/gIQAPPZQSJ_story.html

Amy, what year was LAST June.

Come on, Amy. I'm sure your employer put a calendar on the desk where you are supposed to be working.

Having trouble reading that complicated old thing? Fine, I'll help you.

Last June was 2010- the Census year. All states saw a spike in the federal employees- remember all those temporary Census jobs? They went away, starting in JULY of 2010.

I guess reading for comprehension is out of your depth, too.

AMY AMY AMY...........Who is the largest employer in the state of Maine? Hmmmm let me see! International Paper.....no! Hmmmmmmm Bath Iron works?...............no! Lets see.....could it be Maine state gov.? GASP!

Last June was 2010- the Census year. All states saw a spike in the federal employees- remember all those temporary Census jobs? They went away, starting in JULY of 2010.

Bzzt! Wrong! Last June is June, 2011. Off by a full year.

D'Oh!

Nope. Itnwould have read "June of this year" . When they say "last June", they mean June of last year. It's also pretty clear if you read the data.

Another liberal who reads on what grade level?

Oh yes, you can't! Run scared libbies, it is apparent, with all of the mindless dribble on here from the far left that you are very scared. Keep chanting that same failed mantra, 2012 is coming to take you AWAY, ha ha, he he, right straight to the funny farm, where you all belong. Because as has been proven of late, you are all nuts! Following the biggest nut of them all.

PERRY 2012!!!

Amy B If that is the Case ,the Dimocrats should LOVE him they all want to work for the Gov. or get on entitlements !!!!

no joe, no bo, nj

Here is a list. While it not complete at least it could be a plan, which is more than I have seen from anyone who wishes to rule me.

1. Make SS and Medicare need based. The retired rich no longer create jobs or contribute to society, in fact, they will pull more out than they put in.

2 Revamp the Welfare system and for every person hire to hand out money one is hire to stop fraud.

3 For every dime lobbyists spend in Washington, the will be taxed to give a dime to the national debt. Lobbyist spent 700 billion in Washington last year not counting the states. Can you say 13 Trillion easier than 14 Trillion.

4 Close tax loopholes and tax corporations fully. They might whine but so what. Then give them a tax rebate to hire, and if they hire enough people they will get their entire tax break back.

5 A couple of months ago I heard Alan Greenspan speak. He stated that what pulled the US out of every recession since before the Depression was construction. I am in construction, and when I talk to honorable people who can't get a loan to improve their home or buy a new one because the government went too far in the opposite direction from oversight to making it nearly impossible to get a loan. Before this recession 90% of Americans paid their bills and still would. Everyone is not a credit risk as they are now seeing them. Long story shortened, force the banks to start lending money. When there isn't money in the market, none will be spent.

Mrkwildcat --

Following the biggest nut of them all. PERRY 2012!!!

I don't think you actually wanted to say this -- did you??

patHuntingtonNY

TX under Perry has record job growth - in minimum wage jobs that is, you know. the jobs that cater to the very rich..

Well there are no job openings for 'millionaire', and the $hovel Ready Job$ never materialized (over $250 billion later) so you better quit waitin for that next government check and get to work patH!

what about all that DOUGH jo ?

since when is having a minimum wage job worse than having NO job?

1SGFitzsWife4ID: Since the person who claims minimum wage jobs as a "miracle" wants to be President so he can take that absurd philosophy national. Over the past decade, job growth in the Texas private sector has DECLINED. It's PUBLIC SECTOR jobs, i.e. federal and state spending, that is largely responsible for the overall job creation and that's not a point that's lost on people outside Perry's hallelujah chorus...you know people who actuallly look at what Perry does, not just listen to what he says.

Please tell me that people aren't as stupid as this poll shows them to be! The next president isn't all about jobs only, they're about character, integrity, selflessness, restraint, moderation, firm reliance on deity, firm fair and steady hand at the helm of the ship, and most of all humble and respectful! Perry is none of those things! Perry is self centered, attention grabbing, boisterous, cocky, full of himself, trying to heap the spotlight and glory on himself, big mouthed, threatening, accusatory, rude, all of which shows a lack of character! Perry shows a clear sense of entitlement, and that alone makes him unprepared and unworthy of the presidency! The next president needs to be humble, patient and the servant of all the people! Send Perry the stuck up clown with girly blow dried hair back to Texas until he's done something in the private sector and made a name for himself in the business world and not just by being a professinal politician! We see that he's politician only and that's not acceptable! Don't vote for him!!!

I agree with you AP I think Perry is a polished turd, but still a turd none the less, but that had nothing to do with my question.

My state..Connecicut (unfortunately) has 3.2 million residents and about 55,000 state goverment employees. Also...the largest employer in this bankrupt state. Nothing new.

If the nine hundred Republican primary candidates keep up their relentless criticism, President Obama may approach Ronald Reagan's 35% approval rating from the year before he was re-elected.

take it back, PatHuntington- a p r i c k's a part of a MAN....

Bob: Elmer Fudd could join the Republican race right now and the right wing nut squad would quickly hail him as their savior. Shows you just how weak this pathetic Republican field is that folks like Christie and Ryan are still being BEGGED to enter the race. You may not be hearing that music yet of course...but the fat lady is waiting in the wings for ya 'all..

You know, both my parents voted for Obama, and no matter what I told them about all his lovely acquaintances, not having any kind of record at all other than voting present and community organizing in the most corrupt city ON EARTH and they did not care (Scratch that I guess DC would edge out Sickago), not even a bit. My dad said he didn't care if Obama was a card carrying communist from Pluto he was still going to vote for him. All they cared about was making sure any semblance of the Bush era would be long gone. Well guess what?!?! I don't have to dis-own my parents or my siblings because everyone of them have told that they will MOST CERTAINLY NOT vote for the organizer in chief in the coming election. So I'm fairly certain there will be a huge number of people that are going to vote for anything that is not Obama. I would wager that even a pimple on Perry's ass would beat Obama in the general election. It's going to be a lovely day watching all the liberals walking around trying to get the T-Bags out of their collective anus. Sorry forgot Libs like anything they can find shoved up in that region. It helps force out the crap we see them spew on these blogs.

AP...

So Mr. Obama is the kind of president you judge to be your "savior" ??? Good luck with that.

Elmer Fudd vs. Urkel would be interesting, however.

AF, careful, did you see another major earthquake has hit, a 6.8 in Peru... doesn't the Bible have warnings about earthquakes ? And if Rick Perry isn't a false prophet, can you think of a better one ?

Oh, just relax...if Perry is elected President you'll still have Freedom of Religion...

...your choice of Christian denominations.

Da Noid--no we won't have a choice of denominations--it will be only evangelical extremists' version of "christianity"! These folks believe mainstream christians are evil and spawn of satan, and many mainstream denominations are not strict fundamentalist. These people want to institute their version of Sharia law. Can you say "inquisition" and "witch hunts"? The only orthodoxy will be their own version. How will they know who among us are the orthodox?

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

I'm glad you will be left behind.

As a young teenager my mother had a bible a foot thick with thin pages and small writing. I always wondered what happened to the rest of the story with the new smaller bibles. Anyway, in Revelations it said that the world wouldn't end until 40 years after the last rainbow.

I was only joking, I don't think the rapture is near I saw the most gorgeous rainbow about a week ago that changed the color of the entire sky. If the bible is correct we have 40 more years at least if that was the last one.

Yes dirp, his name is Obama

Mrk..

I had immediately thought the same thing...who betters defines the term "false prophet" than Mr. Obama, who had told us all that his innauguration marked the day when "the oceans would rise and the Earth would heal".

I have never heard a politician make such a ridiculous statement...although Maxine Waters has often come close !

@tony

I believe the speech you're referring to was the one when he won the nomination. And the section you mention, I believe went like this:

The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people. Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment—this was the time—when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals. Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.

It seems to me the speech was talking about the American people working together. And although it does sound a bit grandiose, it sure doesn't sound like he's claiming to be the "prophet" you all repetedly say he does. He was naive for believing American people would work together.

Does he wear womens clothes too?

Has anybody looked at Perry's original birth certificate?

Does he even have one?

Why doesn't he show it to the world? What is he trying to hide - not being a natural born citizen or something?

He should produce the original birth certificate or stop campaigning.

I believe he was not born, but rather immaculately hatched on god's own porcelain throne.

hatched on god's own porcelain throne

...I could believe on his own porcine throne.... lol

Constructive dialog, I'm sure.

You can say that again. But Jesus didn't come to earth to run for office, raise armies or overthrow Herod or Caesar. He came to save us.

Like Feisty says quite frequently, "Religion has no place in politics". That I agree with wholeheartedly.

Nice post John.

devie; I think we should leave the "Religion in Politics" because Rick Perry has scared all the "Hell" out of me, maybe it will work on others!!

LMAO Linda..He scares the Hell out of me too!!!

Me THREE and I LIVE in Texas! All I can say is WE told you so!

I too am a Texan and I would not vote for Perry for anything. He won his last election with 39% of the vote because it was a three way race. That means that 61% of the voters did not vote for him. I seriously doubt that Perry could even carry the State of Texas. There are many, many facts about him that can easily be found on the internet and I am quite sure that the more people learn about him the more people will be turned off by him. He will flame out just the same way Trump did with his birther nonsense. One thing I am sure of is that Perry won't be calling for the President to open his college transcripts since Perry himself is a solid C-D student. He made a D in economics, go figure.

I honestly believe Romney is sitting back and letting Perry dig his own grave, he knows like we in Texas know, Perry will have his foot in his mouth soon and Romney will have not forced followers to pick between them..

JoAnne, I think there are quite a few of us socially liberal eg, pro gay marriage, pro choice etc but fiscally conservative voters who would tend to vote GOP against Obama. Many of us would vote for Clinton all day long. That voting connundrum is what is making the leftist media and Obama so stir crazy and why he is losing the independent vote. There is noGOP candidate that is going to appeal to someone like you as a liberal democrat or most of the people living in CA, NY etc but you probably make up 20% of the vote just as the hard core socially conservative right make up 20% of the vote. Us 60% in the middle vote for all kinds of reasons other than gay marriage, gun laws, abortion etc. In this election, unless the economy turns on its heels, its likely to be decided by fiscal issues. Your concerns over Perry on his pandering to the right in the primary wont mean anything in the national election.

It's like the old joke about the Republican airplane that couldn't fly - it didn't have a left wing. But today's Republican plane doesn't even have a fuselage, just a far right wingtip.

There are no "liberal Republicans" left, and the "Moderates" have been pushed out. What remains in the Republican party is is the "Bless the Rich" Conservatives and the lunatic teaparty fringe.

CM, I am not a tea party person nor been to anything they have done but I dont get when in this country it became "lunatic" to want fiscal responsibility? Werent you raised in an environment in which you were expected to have personal responsibility and accountability? When did it become lunatic to advocate that? When did it become lunatic to be against a society where people expect to be coddled by their government and have their handouts for thier own bailout whether it be credit card, mortgage, GE, oil companies, senior citizens who want to lower the standard of living for their kids and grandkids? When did it become lunatic to think that balancing your books was a good thing?

Kirk -

Okay, so far that makes one of you, and I'll take you at your word, since I've voted Republican more than a few times in the past myself. But I find this particularly interesting - "Many of us would vote for Clinton all day long". Not sure if you meant Bill or Hillary, but that doesn't really matter - I just don't get how anyone who would vote for either one "all day long" would even remotely consider voting for a Rick Perry or Michelle Bachmann or even the 2011 version of Mitt Romney. Who do you think the Clintons will be voting for next November?

Oh, and I'm more than willing to agree that not all Republicans are lunatics - hey, my own mother is one (Republican, I mean, not lunatic). She is, however, very much a senior citizen, who is currently in a wheelchair in an assisted living home and whose Medicare and pension from the years she worked as an oncology nurse barely cover even her basic room and board, let alone her medications, co-pays for doctor visits, clothing, phone and cable, and the add-on costs for the assistance she needs with things like showering and management of those medications. I've spent the last nine months struggling to cover many of those out of my own savings, while still working full-time, keeping up with repairs on the rental property I own, and keeping the books balanced for both of us. I've never been late with a mortgage payment and I have zero credit card debt. I don't consider the government to be "coddling" either one of us.

Kirk, I am in favor of fiscal responsibility, too, that includes paying debts and paying for services rendered. Taxes IS payment for government services, but the teapartiers don't want to pay taxes, they don't want to pay for essential government services, so I don't consider them to be "fiscally responsible", merely greedy and self-serving. The same goes for the "borrow and spend" conservatives that keep racking up debts yet want even more tax cuts.

JoAnne, I was referring to Bill although I probably would prefer Hillary over Barack but thats irrelevant at this point. I dont even think about Bachmann or Palin or Ron Paul as they really have no shot at winning the nomination so I dont get hot and bothered by their candidacy and have no problem with what they say because they have a certain base of followers and who else are they going to pander to. To me it would be like Pelosi running for the democratic nomination with her extreme liberal views and I would respect her right to have them and speak to her constituency. I just dont understand all the personal angst over Bachmann and Palin by the media or progressive crowd as they will flame out on their own so why give them credibility by personally attacking them and making them seem like victims. I really dont know anything about Perry so to be honest, I have no opinion. I dont mind Romney nor Huntsmann and I liked Pawlenty and I dont really make too much out of primary season where each candidate panders to the GOP voters and spend no time pandering to liberal democrats like you (no offense intended) because your not going to vote in the primary.

You certainly didnt need to defend your lack of coddling to me in your family situation and I respect what you are doing very much as we did the same for both my grandparents and soon for my parents. My comments were more that I grew up in a very small town in Illinois with 3000 people. Good old midwestern values on both sides of the aisle seem to have disappeared. I am a product of my environment certainly in fiscal matters and governments role in those and I can respect those like you who differ whether I agree with it or not. In my experience, the general right result is a combination of both of our positions. In financial areas, my parents owned their own very small business and I worked there and still help them out with certain things today. I know first hand how, unemployment benefits, insurance, government regs, taxes etc impact economic behavior and have lived it growing up and lived it since I got out of school and have worked 30 years in the financial profession. I have no ability to say I am right and your wrong or if Romney is better than Obama but I can say from my personal experience that many of things that Obama is doing flys in the face of good understanding of economic behavior and the entitlement society is not a good one. But I said the same thing about Bush who I thought was horrible so maybe special interests whether it be corporate or unions have ruined it for the rest of us.

CM, I dont know any Tea Party people who dont want to pay for government services. Isnt it that they think they pay enough? Given that the top 3% of income earners pay in 50% of all federal income taxes its kind of hard to say they dont pay for all the services. Its more that you believe they havent paid enough and they said they have already paid too much and I am not getting the value for the services given to me. That doesnt make you a lunatic nor them. Not sure why you would think so. People making over 250 thousand to a million already pay 50% of there income in income, payroll and Obamacare tax, how much should they pay? I am all for tax reform that takes away loopholes and deductions for everyone including corps and the super rich but everyone needs to pay the bill for government services.

Kirk - I appreciate the civil conversation. Have a good evening.

Joanne my daughter could raise her hand, though I'm sure because she isn't old enough to vote she wouldn't count in your eyes, my daughter is a tree hugging love everyone liberal who just happens to also be Pro-life, while her mother (me) is a conservative, everyone pay their own way, Pro-Choice. Funny how the world works eh?

1SGFitzsWife4ID - Funny indeed. My mother who's now a very conservative Republican is the same mother who raised me to be the "tree hugging love everyone liberal" I am today (a Pro Choicer who still wishes abortion was much rarer.) You should be proud of your daughter for having such firm political convictions at such an early age. I'll bet you have some fun conversations round the dinner table!

My entire family other than my father are all very very liberal I'm talkin California liberal lol When I got old enough I got out of there as fast as I could.

The dinner table can become quite interesting, even though my daughter is only 14 she's very "politically minded" I think she gets it from her mom ;) my husband just sits there and shakes his head, and if it gets too heated he always says "GIRLS, DO I NEED TO SEPARATE YOU??" I love that she thinks for herself though even if we don't always agree on the subject. Two people we agree on though is Perry and Obama we both want them to go away.

Here you go "Kirk"

President Obama accomplishments to date:

1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending

2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices

3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women

4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq

5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB

6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information

7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier's family

8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act

9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible

10. Limits on lobbyist's access to the White House

11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration

12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date

13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren't even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan

14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research

15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research

16. New federal funding for science and research labs

17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards

18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect

19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools

20. New funds for school construction

21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out

22. US Auto industry rescue plan

23. Housing rescue plan

24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan

25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying

26. US financial and banking rescue plan

27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed

28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards

29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops

30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010

31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols

32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic

33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions

34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office

35. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job

36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast

37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles

38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales

39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government

40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children

41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program

42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones

43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions

44. Expanding vaccination programs

45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters

46. Closed offshore tax safe havens

47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals

48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back

49. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry's predatory practices

50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources

51. Lower drug costs for seniors

52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings

53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel

54. Improved housing for military personnel

55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses

56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals

57. Increasing student loans

58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program

59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy

60. Established a new cyber security office

61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.

62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts

63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness

64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient

65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced

66. Improving benefits for veterans

67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration

68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud

69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco

70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules

71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports

72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons

73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive

74. Making more loans available to small businesses

75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare

76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court

77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans

78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000

79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel

80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan

81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan

82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans

83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production

Forgot to add Bin Landen , Libya, Financial Reform

That was very good list, the problem is that most are job killers. So go through that list and explain how each will assist the economy. I already listed several of the same ones you did like the stimulus. Every president has a list of accomplishments just like you put down what I meant was list of accomplishments that have showed some economic benefit. For example, the equal pay for women was put in for the benefit of the trial lawyers lobby which is a huge democratic contributor. This allows them to make create more reasons to sue rather than have any positive impact on the economy. Again stifling job growth. Everyone is for equal pay for woman for equal jobs and effort, not just a handout for the trial lawyers. If he had also proposed tort reform I would have given him an A. So these arent positive accomplishments just accomplishments. Finally, I never said Obama had no positive accomplishments, I just said why not put forth the positive ones and harp on those all the time because if your right, he will win by a landslide.

Where did you copy and paste that from? The daily Kos? It's getting old seeing the same tired rhetoric from the left when the country is literally falling into bankruptcy. Obama, Pelosi and Reid own this economy and they have done a terrible job managing much less improving it. Obama is a political activist, not a President as evidenced by your "list". Which by the way is about half full of crap.

Earlier this week, USA Today published an analysis of the federal workforce showing that it pays to work for the government: The number of feds earning more than $150,000 per year has increased tenfold since 2005, and the number earning above $180,000 has increased twentyfold. That prompted us to take a look at White House salaries, and it turns out that working for Barack Obama is not a bad gig.

Obama famously instituted a salary freeze for all White House staffers earning more than $100,000 on his first day in office because "during this period of economic emergency, families are tightening their belts, and so should Washington."

But there wasn't a lot of belt-tightening for the rest of the staff: We crunched the numbers and found that, of the 344 White House employees who were listed on the payroll in both White House's 2009 and 2010 salary reports, 253—or 74%—got raises in 2010. And among that lucky overwhelming majority, the average raise was 9%. And plenty of people making more than $100,000 a year did get a raise as long as a title change came with it.

This list is hilarious. Accomplishments? Almost all of these items fall into one of three categories: Irrelevant, complete fluff or completely incorrect.

It just goes to show what most every analyst acknowledges - Obama is not going to be able to run for re-election on his record. His only hope is to attack his opponent.

Pretty sad when you think of the wave of optimism upon which he rode into power.

Yes, Kirk, it is a job killer to stop looking for Osama. The rest does not apply and 'job killer' is just a stock comment from Ditto Heads. "Is it going to rain?" Answer, "It's a job killer."

Hey "Kirk" what were GWB's job creating accomplishments? He cut taxes, started two wars, unfunded medicare drug plan, deregulation - where were the jobs under such job creating tactics? He was the worst president in terms of job creation since Eisenhower. If he was so business friendly, where was the economic boom? Oh, that sound was just the economy imploding on his watch...

Mav, who cares? If you think I was a Bush supporter move on to someone else. Bush was a horrible president but go look up on google the number of jobs created by Bush after the Clinton internet bubble and 9/11 recession. It was pretty impressive. Yes, many of those jobs were lost in the financial crash but every economic cycle has that boom and bust. Just like Clinton (who I support) had significant job growth, his recession lost a good portion of those jobs back. But who cares at this point of the past. Do you hear me say hey Mav what about Jimmy Carter's job creating accomplishments? At this point lets agree that Bush was bad and move on.

Still Bush Bashing I see Mav. That's soooo 2007/08. You're going to need something more than that to scare the voters this time around.

Surely after almost 3 years in office, you can fall back on the record and accomplishments of your man and not get caught up in the petty sniping and name calling of old. Be proud of your guy and argue based on what he has done for this country.

Or are you struggling to come up with much on that front?

The word around Martha's Vineyard is that the earthquake was george bush's fault! yuk yuk! I thought I would post something that didnt call someone a vile vitrolic name!

So basically no accomplishments will count so long as they come from this White House. Gotcha. In terms of jobs he at least stopped the open wound bleeding that was occurring when he took office though the growth hasn't been spectacular. Of course that could have something to do with the fact that only thing that Government can do to really create jobs is in infrastructure, government jobs, and stimulus. You know all those things Conservatives have fits over and would have crucified him if he'd have put any efforts towards. Which brings up a question why would Conservatives down grade the President's performance with such force when he seems to listen to you guys?

So far the President has done very well in foreign policy and keep in mind I say this even though I've disagreed with many of his measures. I was against going to Libya yet he does seem to have nailed that one. I was for a much reduced roll in Afghanistan yet he did get Osama. I may not be happy with some his tendencies but he does seem to get results in this area. And certainly he demonstrates much more stability and strength internationally than the "Hawk today, Dove tomorrow" philosophy that has become the mainstay of current GOP politics.

There seems to be a desperation in Conservative politics today. The US has been following the Conservative lead on economics for the last 30 years and we have ruin to show for it. Conservatism sold itself in the guise of the Neo-Con "compassionate conservatism" and covered its failures with loans. Deregulation on both industry and banking led to a bleeding of jobs, and Las Vegas style gambling on Wall Street. Revenue decreases while building up unnecessary military spending pillaged our treasury. Then came the climax of the Neo-Con outlook under the Presidency of George W. Bush the most destructive president of our time. Following the Neo-Con fall from grace the Tea Party sold itself as something completely "new" a "pure" Conservatism or a wolf without the sheep's clothing if you will. A great deal of energy generated around this movement. However so far their only claim to fame is proudly getting our nation's credit downgraded.

Obama has been a disappointment in many ways. Mostly in that he's sided with the status-quo conservative thinking on economics way too often. But it would take a special brand of insanity to jump from a damaged ship unto one that's already sunk. That is the choice that Conservatives are asking the country to make.

Agree completely. If in fact tax cuts lead to jobs there wouldn't have been a need to bail out banks and wall street. All those tax cuts went to las wall street ... not to new factories, new employees, innovation or education and job training. 8 years we've been toe'ing the line with those tax cuts and we're ruined in part because they don't work. But hey if you yell it enough, toss in a few red herrings to stir up the uninformed or just plain ignorant, people will side with you despite the fact that those policies have a 30 year history of failure.

Ignore the poor, shrink education and research budgets, invest in bombing countries with oil, insulate the rich, and we'll be in trouble.

Invest in education, innovation, and research and the United States thrive. We'll do that with or without the morons in office anyway but it would sure be nice to see a government actually support its own people for once rather than police the world.

Plain and simple, GWB started this dive and it will take years to get out of it. Trust me, if we had a republican president now the unemployment rate would still be the same. The absurdity that some how president Obama made it that worse is ridiculous - and don't tell me if we had a republican president now we'd be better off - only the rich and corporations would concede that.

Agreed "rconstant" this really goes back to Regan, but I do fault Clinton for Nafta and the repeal of Glass-Stegall...

Oh agreed Mav-3674058 Clinton and Democrats in general don't get to walk away from this smelling like roses. It really is less about the parties themselves and more about right-wing ideology, which has infected both parties to varying degrees.

Now, that's an intelligent way to make a decision.

just think if some people had something between their ears except for vacuums, we might even get somewhere. Remarks become blatantly obvious as racist when certain terms are included in those remarks... (Yeah, I know DNFTFT...)

Canary, just report posters that do that as inflammatory. If enough people do, they'll get kicked off.

What "no opinion" means, Gail, is that 17% have not yet made up their minds who they are supporting.

I'm one of them.

I've ruled out certain candidates- Bachman, when she first got in, because I did not think two terms in Congress gave her the right kind of experience; now, because she can't keep anything straight in her head for long enough to keep from looking like a fool- but I have not yet heard enough from any candidate to put my support firmly behind either of the frontrunners.

I can tell you this much- get used to saying either President Romney, or President Perry.

Obama has failed, miserably.

Well, with 17% of you not knowing whom to turn to, I don't think Republicans can accurately predict a President Romney or a President Perry. I certainly wish you had better choices. We need two viable parties and not one that is debilitated and fighting for its soul. I don't think your party will win this time, whomever it finally decides to run.

Its "whoever", but, whatever.

Killing off the DLC meAns that you have no centrists left- especially after the bloodbath last November.

Two viable parties? The one in danger of being left in the desert is the Democratic party.

That Obma is some Messiah- resurrected the GOP, and killed off the dems.

Yes, wouldn't you if the "wacky pack" were all the options you had?

Perry has that alpha male, animalistic thing going for him. He looks like a bear walking on his hind legs, don't you think? Republicans love that sort of thing.

@omustgo -

Keep it up, numbchuck.

Not sure what will be first - Your being banned from the site, or a knock on your door from the FBI.

Mav: you forgot one of the most important: Halting the far right takeover of the US Supreme Court (got a ways to go to balance that one, but at least its begun). Getting Khadaffy out of power without a single American soldier on the ground is looking pretty good too--(even the R's have had to rework their 'it isn't working' criticism and just hope Americans forget their prior comments.)

Yeah, the "activist court" the republicans didn't want under a Democratic president.

I am assuming you and the person who wrote this don't like Republicans and classify yourselves as liberals or Democrats? You guys can continue to smear every Republican candidate but in the end, you'll lose the election next year because liberal progressives ideas don't work and never will. Obama is a miserable failure, he's taken our country deeper into the abyss all the while blaming Bush, the Tea Party and Republicans. Get out of the way and let real leaders take over to bring our country back from the brink.

Some of those are factual if you have read the constitutuion. Not to mention Al Gore is a lying idiot.

what does Al Gore have to do with ANYTHING?

lukewarm those were just a few of Rick Perry's "Beliefs" the list is endless. He writes a book about the unconstitutional everything and a year later he runs for president and the book isn't about how he feels now. He is a flip flopper on steroids. He used to work for Al Gore, flipped, now he cannot make a decision: Democrat to Republican to Tea Party. Read his book then listen to him "FED UP"

Get out of the way and let real leaders take over to bring our country back from the brink.

Perry has taken Texas TO the brink. Hell George W was 50 times the Governor Perry has been.

George W was 50 times the Governor Perry has been.

Now THAT is scary Robert!

Lukewarm, your assumption is wrong - all of those came directly from Perry's own book "Fed Up". You can get a copy and check it out for yourself.

Oh, and the "cut taxes, borrow and spend" conservatism practiced by the Republicans for decades is also a failure, it added nearly 8 trillion dollars to the national debt since 1980. led to 3 recessions, and has never come close to balancing any budget.

Not as stupid as yo uthink - I know but He really was and I know it is kind of hard to admit in public but he was a good Governor here, Perry has driven us to the edge of that cliff the TP talks about.

Robert, I would say that Gov. Ann Richards was 50 times better than Bush. Perry is a snake and he probably couldn't carry the State of Texas in the Primaries. He won his last election with 39% of the vote that would mean that 61% of the voters did not vote for him. And I believe that Kinky Friedmann jumped in just to split the votes.

I voted for Kinky he's awesome.

Omustgo..

your self-defined racist backside must go... you're embarrassing yourself and doing a great job at it.

disgusting, and a classic example of the modern-day racist t-GOP.

Don't even bother responding to the lunatic "omustgo" Every one of his comments are being collapsed by the community.

perry is an absolute IDIOT.... Brainless underachiever. If the RETHUGs want a "reasonable" candidate, they might try Huntsman (not that I'd vote for him, but he's the LEAST OBJECTIONABLE of the pack.)

Omustgo

Shooting your mouth off like you know something about anything, apparently is your only paying job, no?

Did kkkarl send you an email memo on Judas Goat, talking points?

Again, it is highly doubtful you have the remotest clue about socialism, communism, capitalism, and even democracy, etc., etc.

Be careful what you wish for "keri68". Just ask people in TX about Mr. Perry and his magic mirage...

Canary, don't worry, Perry the idiot will win over Obama the spineless Marxist. A rock will beat him!

You mean the spineless guy who finished off bin laden, put in a surge that is working in afghanastan, and is finally trying to put an end to two useless wars? What he didn't give enough victory speeches on aircraft carriers for ya? Just quietly did the job left at the doorstep after gw and co were finished ransacking the place and giving no cost bids to all their cronies to profit off of american lives? That certainly wasn't spineless.

It amazes me that anyone would vote for Perry. But it amazed me that anyone would vote for George Bush.

But they voted for him and what a disaster he created.

What can you say, Republicans like repeating history, sorry your economic model won't work no matter how many times you try to recycle it... But I must admit, they are creative at finding new wars.

YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT - SHRUB 2.0 - those who ignore the lessons of history are DOOMED to repeat them. Didn't WE (the US electorate) get our collective FILL of IDIOTIC TEXAS guv'nuhs? DOOMED TO REPEAT THE MISTAKES OF BEFORE (and perry will be MUCH easier for his "handlers" to control, too - a trained dog and pony show)

Nah, just thank the Supreme Court. They have done the most harm to our political system in the last 10 years...

Want some crackers with that whine!

I actually thought that Bush had a good sense of humor, but I really really am NOT ready for another Oil-seeking Texan, or even another Republican, at this time.

We haven't cleaned up the mess from the last Texans.

Except for the fact that it is a massively CONSERVATIVE supreme court. Nice try though mav.

only in your wildest DREAMS, Ray. While an "alternative" may be "nice" there is nothing in the current crop of RETHUGs (except maybe Huntsman) who makes ANY sense - the rest of the field has the brains combined of an emu

the thing right at this moment though is that Obama is not campaigning, he already has his party nomination.. He is not competing with any of them yet. Perry's number will come down once he goes national with his "This is how we do it in Texas" crap.

I provided the link to the poll I found that shows they are tied.

I couldn't believe it either, but it is right on Galllup's website. If it stays that way, that will be awesome for America. I voted for Obama last time, but NEVER again. He promised us a bipartisan approach to government, including a bipartisan health care bill. What did we get? A completely partisan heathcare bill that isn't in the best interest of most Americans, a government that is more partisan than it has ever been, and many people out of work and underemployed. Is this the kind of change I expected when I voted for Obama? Absolutlely not. I think it is time for a change and according to this poll, many other Americans are also looking for a change.

I wouldn't get too excited about conservatives' preferences this week. Last week they were in love with Michelle Bachmann and Ron Paul. This week, its Ricky-poo. Republicans are like the old Roy Clark country song ~ ~ ~ "Anything Leaving Town Today."

RaymondD, you have to be kidding! "Obamacare" is completelypartisan; not hardly, it was first suggested by Republicans, specifically the very conservative Heritage foundation. It was touted in the 90s as a great plan by Republicans. It didn't become "socialist" until Obama and the dems settled on it. The libs wanted a govt. system, similar to medicaire, for everyone. The bill is actually not as good asit should have been because of the dems pandering to the right. The bottomline however is that there was andwillcontinue to be an avalanche of criticism regardless, of what he does.