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Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said today he will unveil his jobs plan on Sept. 6th, the same week as President Obama unveils his plan -- possibly even the same day. It's also one day before the NBC/Politico debate at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, CA. On Sept. 5th, South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint is hosting a candidates forum in Columbia, SC.
"If it's a continuation of what we've seen in the past, we know it will fail," Romney said to Fox News Channel's Neil Cavuto of the president's plan. "I'm also in Nevada on Sept. 6th, and I will be coming out with my jobs plan, and it will be very different from his. And if we follow my jobs plan we'll get America working again."
The Romney campaign has said in the past they would begin rolling out more detailed policy positions in September.
The timing of presenting a jobs plan, in particular, also allows them to bracket President Obama once again.
In June, Romney criticized President Obama at a shuttered steel plant in Allentown, PA, soaking up news coverage, on the same day the president attended a pair of fundraisers in Philadelphia. The Romney campaign also released a series of Web videos timed to the president's fundraising and travel schedules, including one highlighting Chicago's economic struggles under the current administration during President Obama's birthday visit to his home city. Last week, the campaign released a pair of videos hitting President Obama on the economy, set in stops along his Midwest bus tour route.
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WHOHOOO! FIRST!
["If it's a continuation of what we've seen in the past, we know it will fail," Romney said to Fox News Channel's Neil Cavuto...And if we follow my jobs plan we'll get America working again."]
Sooo....Romney is trying to ride the coattails of Obama now? I wonder what the rest of the Clown School will have to say about that...especially Bachmann, who said she'd fix the economy in three months...
Mickey, I had just read the posts by NoJ, Joanna1 and other that the president nor Congress cannot create jobs?
I don't think Romney got the memo...
Now we will have job plans all over the place after Labor Day which I think is very appropiate and also ironic!!
It's more of a question of not destroying them.
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/581555/201108151901/Regulatory-Agencies-Staffing-Up.aspx
Now do you understand the meaning of uncertainty?
[I don't think Romney got the memo...]
You're damn right he didn't...check his stats:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/mitt-romney-tries-to-play-the-jobs-card-2010-02-23?pagenumber=1
Oh, and he was a co-founder of Bain Capital, which seems outsourcing jobs was his number one commodity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital
HiJoBloMo:
[It's more of a question of not destroying them.]
You mean like Romney did while at Bain Capital?
"WHOHOOO! FIRST!"
(Don't forget to send your 19.95 to the DDI.)
"The Romney campaign has said in the past they would begin rolling out more detailed policy positions in September."
'See you in September', Mittless!
How'd that refrain go?
"Bye , Bye, So long, Farewell...
Mickey, You cite the wikipedia link. However, I don't see in the write-up that outsourcing jobs is prevalent. Rather...
".....( allows the) firm's teams to pursue a wide range of equity investment opportunities, and to conduct extensive diligence, to do a fact-based analysis of the business and competitive industry dynamics, and to identify a winning business model. Thusly, Bain Capital turns a profit on floundering corporations by buying them at low cost, stripping away any projects that aren't profiting or which have potential, and laying off any excess workers."
Fact based analysis. Aware of business and industry dynamics. Winning business models. Restructuring floundering organizations. Stripping away projects (programs) that aren't working (isn't that one of the promises the President made?) Streamlining operations by trimming excess.
Sounds good to me. If only the government would do the same.
Aaaaaaaand, Candice - Funneling the profit through P.O. boxes in the Caymans and elswhere in order to evade taxes.
Perfectly legal, of course!!!!
Now, there is a winning business model!!
Winning!!!!!!!!!!!
Aaaaaaand Richard - list your source on this. Proof is in the pudding. Proof, not speculation.
Well -- to quote Bruce Willis -- yipee kayaa muther-f#cker...
The MAN who comes in 47th on job creation is going to FINALLY speak...
Meanwhile - the NJ nut job continues to self-implode... LMAO!
O, you silly libbies. Were you not listening carefully to Axelrod and the other former Obama spokeshole on MTP yesterday?
Obama will not be providing a plan. He will outline certain "ideas."
So to review - no plan, just a few spitballs and platitudes. And for those of us keeping score - that's a giant walk back from just two weeks ago, when it would be a detailed plan.
Isn't he just awesome?
Oh and old gal - whatever you might think Nojo may or may not be doing, she's got you under her spell.
Romney's plan will sound like the same conservative plans of the last 30 years, Reagan's trickle down, Bush and Bush's trickle down--voo doo economics that makes businesses highly profitable while employees wages decline. Romney's Big Jobs Plan: 1) tax cuts for big business because that will create jobs; 2) make the Bush tax cuts permanent especially for the 2% because that will create jobs; 3) de-regulate business because those nasty regulations that keep employees and the pubic safe hurt business; 4) cut government spending; 5) more tax cuts for the rich; 6) repeal ObamaCare because according to conservatives that kills jobs; 7) get rid of unions because unions mean people make better money and that "hurts" business.
Hey Mitt, why bother. I'd wait until Barrack Hussein comes out with his secret plan that he's been holding back from the American people for the last 944 days. I hear it's sooooooo secret even Barrack doesn't know what it is. I can guess what Barrack Hussein will say in his secretly held speech.
It will sound a lot like Charlie Brown's teacher talking.
WAH WAH WHA WAH WAH WAH I inherited. WAH WAH WAH WAH raise taxes on the rich. WAH WAH WAH WAH the last 8 years. WAH WAH WAH spend more. WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH Republicans fault. WAH WAH WAH borrow more money. WAH WAH WAH WAH TEA Party's fault. WAH WAH tsunami's fault. WAH WAH WAH WAH is it time for another vacation yet? WAH WAH WAH borrow even MORE money. WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH George Bush did it. WAH WAH WAH Anything the Republicans propose I'll either veto, will be DOA or we'll table it without ever reading it.
Relax Mitt. The Incompetent in Chief will embarrass himself if you just wait long enough.
It's science.
Will the folks from American Pad & Paper Co please stand up. They know Mitt's M.O. - fire everyone, offer them their jobs back at a pay cut. Investment company (Bain) skims a percentage of operating costs, crippling the company until it is driven bankrupt and all operations formerly conducted in the US move to China.
Dontcha just love the photo of Mitt and pals with $20's plastered all over them as they joke about the success they have as raiders of American jobs?
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/romney/part3/
@ Brianb -
Most Americans pay their taxes, and don't like it when others use tax shelters and other loopholes to avoid paying the taxes they owe. It doesn't look like Romney broke any laws, but he did set up shell companies in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands. These companies were used to allow investors to funnel money through them and into Bain Capital.
This allowed the investors to completely avoid paying any United States income taxes. By using these tax-avoidance schemes, Romney was able to draw billions of dollars of investments into Bain Capital, and not a penny of the money his investors earned were subject to income taxes.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cf_1198106388
There are more. Google.
Richard - It's all BS. Do you know how many companies do this as a matter of course? It is totally legal. Just because you are using this as a means to try to demonize Romney, it is just that... demonization.
Trust me, I am not for Romney, but when I see something that, on the surface, appears like a misguided attempt to demonize someone, I speak out. If you had something that was of substance, I would do my homework to verify it... but this is nonsense. The only people this will effect is those that don't understand the sheltering of dollars. This isn't tax avoidance, its a legal way of accumulating interest, tax free. For any money to go offshore, in this manner, taxes had to be paid on it first. Nothing was hidden, nothing was done illegally. This is no more than buying duty free alcohol.
This allowed the investors to completely avoid paying any United States income taxes
This is a false statement. Any money earned on shore was taxed. Money made in the United States cannot be funneled into an offshore bank without accounting for it first. That is illegal. Any money made outside of the United States and placed in a bank offshore isn't taxed, and that isn't morally wrong, illegal and any attempt to smear someone over this is rediculous.
Now, now, let's not put the man down. After all he's creating all these jobs all by himself, don't ya know, by quadrupling the size of his mansion. He'll need plenty of construction people, clean up crews, and, most likely after the job is done, several more maids, kitchen help, etc. and I bet he's going to offer all these hardworking grateful-to-have-a-job folks the absolute top (minimum) wage!
The Romney Plan:
1) More tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations.
2) Close the EPA and FDA.
3) Outsource the remaining middle class jobs.
4) Romneycare for all (Obamacare in disguise).
5) Hire buddies from Bain Capital to run the Commerce Department.
6) Find another way to go after organized labor since the president saved the US Auto Industry.
7) Repeal the Dodd Financial Reform Law.
8) Stop living in son's basement.
Isn't fortune telling against the principles of most Christian religions including Romney's? How does he know what the President's plan will encompass? If Romney already knows his own plan, let's hear it. Sounds like a lot of Me Too and Mine's Bigger.
Just a guess, but, maybe he's heard all his other speeches?
Spending, rhymes with investment. . .
Shovel ready-oops- maybe, instead, unemployed carpenters and sheet rockers can build roads? After all, building is building, right?
Taxes hikes on the rich- you know, all those millionaires and billionaires who earn $200,000 a year?
Maybe he'll throw in some "hope for change" and WTF for flavor.
It's an endless loop tape.
The question of what Obama's jobs plan begs the answer... why is he NOW coming out with it? Is it something he never thought of before... something that he had to have his arm twisted around his back to show... something that is regurgitated only worded differently? How much is this going to cost us in real dollars backed by the US debt? All interesting questions that deserve an answer from da prez.
Originally, his September jobs plan was going to be all new ideas. Lately, however, scuttlebutt indicates it's going to be the tired old.....raise taxes, shovel ready, green jobs, patent acceleration, trade agreement, infrastructure bank, light bulbs,.....
Gotta admit Romney's timing is shrewd. It will be an excellent opportunity to see the contrast between the two.
Candice,It isl speculation on your part and anyone else. But the lightbulb bill is Bachmanns great accomplishment. She took credit for it at the Iowa debates.
Northstar, Yes, it's all speculation until the actual September disclosure. I hope the scuttlebutt is wrong. I hope there are new ideas. (Realistic and meaningful ideas). I guess we'll see.
Regarding the light bulbs -- was that law repealed? If so, that would be great. I can stop hoarding the old bulbs that don't require a haz-mat suit if they break.
Have a good night!
Structurally deficient bridges in the US:
http://www.dot.state.ri.us/documents/bridges/US_Deficient_Bridge_Map_no_counties%5B1%5D.pdf
US water supply system - most of which was installed in the 1880s, the 20's and post WWII:http://www.epa.gov/awi/distributionsys.html
(seeing as how Houston had 700 water main breaks in just one day yesterday when the average PER SUMMER is 200, maybe the stimulus money that went to fix up Perry's Governor's mansion and to balance Texas' state budget should actualy have been spent where it was intended to be spent)
Schools: http://www.21csf.org/csf-home/Documents/FactSheetPK12PublicSchoolFacilityInfrastructure.pdf
Or maybe the US electric power grid - much of which is 100 years old. Average age of electrical transformers? 40 years old.
There's your job "creation". It's JOBS that have been waiting for the funding to happen for months, years, even decades...and if this Congress has it's way, the washouts from watermain breaks, the bridge collapses and power outages affecting regions will continue & accelerate. The "new" idea is to actually DO something about the dual need, the need to stop deferring the maintenance and upgrades and the need for people to be employed. We aren't talking all manual labor here. We ARE talking about skillsets that range across all blue & white collar employment, all age workers, all genders and all education levels - and the ancillary services that support these projects and the workers doing them, as well as the replacement of lost tax revenues as people are again earning wages plus the corresponding reduction in expenditures to support people with no income.
So...no joe, send the carpenters & sheetrockers to the schools. There's plenty of work to go around in their trades. Just needs a Congress to fund it.
GrandmaKnows - How many times does Congress have to fund something before it gets done? Didn't congress already approve over $1.2 Trillion in stimulus and Omnibus so this very thing could have gotten underway? This is the point. Since the first stimulus package was handed over, how many people were put to work under it? Obama laughingly admitted that shovel ready jobs may have been overstated. So, again, will he be requesting more money? What will it be used for? Specifically! Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me.
BrianB -- the stimulus package was $787 billion (one third of which were tax cuts).
Inferstructure only accounted for 9% of the stimulus package.
Just sayin...
Feisty - I realize that. Obama said that his plan for the stimulus was to create shovel ready jobs. I know when he was soliciting for it, he said the creation of jobs were to account for a larger portion of the money, but somehow, lost in all the wrangling, jobs were not created. That's all I'm saying. You know what conservatives say about how he spent the money... to pay back his supporters for getting him elected. If this is the case, it wouldn't be the first time it's happened. I do know money was given to states to help retain civil service jobs... but that was short sighted, IMHO
It's cool Brian -- I can't speak for where you are but, in my neck of the woods we have had an enormous amount of much needed road work (even if the traffic jams suck).
When I drove to St. Louis in July, there was a ton of ARRA work going on & most of it was ahead of schedule.
Dare I say it, the stimulus should of been much BIGGER... ;o)
I wouldn't have objected if it were bigger as long as it put people back to work. We weren't totally against the stimulus... we just wanted to have some accountability for it... and most conservatives agreed that if it would work, do it. There are 2 levels of thought on it. One, that it didn't do enough to effectively help... and 2. In hindsight, it's a political football now that most of the money is gone... and it can and will be used against Obama in a court of law... to quote a famous line from Television... not meaning it will go to court.. except the court of conservative opinion. (that was meant as a joke). Personally I wasn't against it until I realized that it didn't provide the effective results and at that time I felt it was a waste of money and kicked our debt levels even higher.
The roads in your area may be getting repaired... but there are other budget items that would be taken into account for those repairs... The stimulus was supposed to augment what would have been in the budget already. How can we as simple citizens know for sure what money was spent where? The true answer... we wouldn't.
Well, Brian, electing governors who take the stimulus money, apply it to the state budget deficits THEIR policies created, use it to renovate their governor's mansions and to give lucrative contracts to campaign donors sure isn't a way...and the people caused that one...at least in Texas.
But to answer your question directly, did you even know this website existed?http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/Pages/WhereistheMoneyGoing.aspx
Wow, what an original idea Mr. Romney - hey me too, but my plan has way more tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations and I pay for it by cutting Medicare and SS!!!
Wow Mav - You've actually seen and studied Romney's plan? Where did you find it?
Or are you just spouting your own little fantasies, with no actual knowledge?
At this time, the only plan Mittless has is the bulldozing of his 12 mill. house in Cali to build a bigger one.
I hear it will be a scaled down version of the White house...
At least he's actually creating a "shovel ready job."
And Candice... one that will cost the US taxpayers nary a dime.
Yes, and if every multi millionaire would just do a trear down and bulid a new house we could get out of this global economic meltdown. :)
HEY!!! Now that's a GREAT idea Northstar! It would be a win/win. It wouldn't come in the form of increased taxes... it will cost the rich person something, but they get something in return! Now that's an idea I can support! It will put countless thousands back to work... increase revenue and might get the ball rolling again on a recovery. I love your insight! Great thinking outside the box!
Anyone who thinks Romney's house won't cost the taxpayer a dime isn't thinking. His fortune was built on the backs of Americans who lost their jobs because of the 'raiding' Bain Capital does. The taxpayers have paid for that house hundreds of times over through the support, retraining and other safety net programs when Romney & Bain took the money and ran from the community devastation their business practices left behind.
GrammaKnows,
You obviously know nothing if you believe that about Bain Capital. Bain Capital saved companies (like Dominos Pizza and Staples) and made them viable so that they could continue providing jobs.
Good point...to prove mine. Average earnings Dominos Pizza:
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-Domino's+Pizza
Poverty Guidelines 2011:http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/11poverty.shtml
Just what we need to get the economy back on it's feet & put America to work...right?
Mickey, you make me laugh, first poster and you slipped. Romney or whoever faces BO in 2012 will be walking in front of the 1- termer in 2013! You betcha!
[Romney or whoever faces BO in 2012 will be walking in front of the 1- termer in 2013! You betcha!]
What platform are any of them running on? Oh, and by the way...Obama bashing is NOT a platform, although you love believing it is...
...you just keep reaching for those stars, kiddo!
MIckey - what month is this? How many months before the general election in 2012? Seems to me there's still a little more than 14 months left. Platforms are usually not developed until the primaries are over. That won't be until next March. We still have 6 months of posturing before platforms can be cast in cement. The main platform for all the republican candidates is to beat Obama. They don't have to win you over... they have to win Republicans over. You may not even recognize the platforms they are on because they aren't campaigning in your direction. They already know they will never win you over so they aren't even going to try. Seems to me your platform question is somewhat moot.
At this point, give the dire economy and policies from Obama the only platform needed is ABO.
Anyone But Obama.
I'm guessing that even the media spin will have stopped by November, at which time it will be admitted that we are in a double dip, something we already know and feel.
Spanky, so you are jumping on the bandwagon of a protest vote this early? I would seriously look beyond the Republicans. I think at last count there were over 100 people who have filed for the presidency. You must have the Green, libertarian, Independence, and maybe even a Free Soil party in Cali. Check it out ... you will have many choices.
Romney job plan....If its good its MY idea, if it not so good its OBAMAS.
Romney never goes 1st on anything. He took a position on the debt ceiling a couple of days after the bill passed. He chimed in on Libya just today. He's been doing his best to follow his party eastward to pro life, entitlement reform, in opposition to healthcare reform, etc etc
Leading from behind is what the libbies call it, no?
Shoe, meet the other foot.
Yeah he's quite the leader. It amuses me that anyone here actually believes his plan will be any different from what every republican spouts. Folks, he has got to run as far right and tea party as he can if he has any chance of getting the nomination. Unfortunately, I hate to burst the bubble of the Romettes out there, Rick Perry will win the nomination. "Extreme" is the winner in the republican party for 2012. "Rational" places dead last in the beauty contest, so good bye Mr. Huntsmen....
Like most typical Americans, I have an attention span about long enough to take in bumper stickers and sound bites. I seldom read or listen to that which runs contrary to my prejudices and preconceived beliefs. I am interested in making meaningless noises and watching TV commercials about "How to get rich without working." I am of the ME generation. I am the important one. What you have is mine if I want it; if you don't give it to me willingly, I will elect politicians who will take it from you and distribute it among my kind. When people say there is no money for my government entitlements and welfare programs, I know they lie; the government controls the money supply.
Why hasn't the government paid that mortgage I couldn't afford when I bought my house? Owning a house without having to pay a mortgage loan that I don't want to pay is my right, and it is the government's responsibility to ensure that right.
Not working in some job that might be taking food out of the mouth of some illegal "immigrant" is not only my right but protects the "illegal's" rights; he is willing to move to the job, I am not; that is also my right and must not have an effect on my government stipends.
I don't read derogatory comments about my beliefs, politics, and lifestyle.
Like most typical Americans, I have an attention span about long enough to take in bumper stickers and sound bites.
Seems as though a lot of posters here don't like the idea that Obama's plan will have competition.
"Kannin" please, I welcome competition, but you already know the republican game plan. I won't judge either plan until they come out but don't tell me either plan will be radically different than each party's current stances. Romney will continue to cut taxes (for rich and corporations) and programs at the expense of the middle class and hope those elusive "job creators" come out of the woodwork to save the day. Where were they when GWB was in office? The president will ask for a balanced approach and cut some regulation and the infrastructure job back - ideas that republicans deplore and house republicans will just say "NO" so we are back to square one. Their whole plan sit back and watch the President fail at the expense of the American people. Then they will have the gaul to ask the American people to vote for one of the "wacky pack". Country first??? NOT...
POLITICAL CORRECTION: MITT ROMNEY'S JOBS RECORD IS A SHAM
Companies Acquired By Romney's Firm Cut Thousands Of Jobs, And Several Ended Up In Bankruptcy. According to Politico:
The next year, Ampad was forced into bankruptcy.
The firm quickly fired or relocated at least 900 workers. Over the next several years, it sunk increasingly into debt and laid off 1,000 workers.
In 2002 - after Romney had left Bain - it filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
The job cuts affected all aspects of the company, from production and acquisition to legal and public relations.
Three years later, Bain took the company public and collected a $36 million payout.
But by August 2003, the company filed for bankruptcy protection, laying off more than 2,100 workers.
Four months after the bankruptcy, unhappy shareholders sued company executives, the initial public offering underwriters and Bain for mismanaging the IPO and failing to disclose company financial information. (Romney was not named in the suit.) [Politico, 1/18/08]
Romney Approved Raises For State Government Management That Increased Risk Of Worker Layoffs. According to the Boston Globe: "Governor Mitt Romney has quietly approved a pay increase for 2,700 managers across state government, a move that may trigger more layoffs of lower-level workers as the state copes with its bleakest budget in more than a decade. In a confidential memo obtained by the Globe, Romney's human resources chief, Ruth N. Bramson, wrote that the governor granted a 2 percent across-the-board pay raise to managers in part because rank-and-file workers are gaining ground on their bosses through union-negotiated raises. The pay increase for managers, which is retroactive to the beginning of this month, is coming on top of 2.7 percent cost-of-living increases that managers received July 1. About 2,700 managers across the state's executive branch are receiving the additional pay raise, with the cost estimated to approach $3.5 million." [Boston Globe, 7/31/03]
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If business was my expertise, as Romney likes to claim is his, then I would have had a Jobs Plan all ready a long long long time ago. That's how you become a leader. By showing off your "expertise". It's human nature. It's why people write books, it's why people paint, it's why people teach, it's why people build things, it's why trial lawyers are trial lawyers. They are spending their lives challenging themselves, doing what they love to do.
He hasn't shown the country anything. Because he has nothing. Except mansions.
Think Progress:
Speaking before a backdrop of luxurious yachts, GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney called on the United States to apprehend the “Lockerbie Bomber” in Libya and bring him back to the United States for trial. Talking to Fox News host Neil Cavuto to explain his position, Romney said that the “United States would be my first choice” for the location of a trial for the bomber-
CAVUTO: If Muammar Qaddafi goes down do you think the new government should hand him over to who?
ROMNEY: The United States of America would be my first choice. We would try him here and see that justice is done. This is a person responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people. This is an individual who was convicted in Scotland but set free on a humanitarian basis and two years later still alive and receives a hero’s welcome. That is unacceptable indeed if he does not face justice.
Yet during the last Republican presidential primary, Romney decried trying terror suspects in American courts, saying that we should actually “double” the size of the Guantanamo Bay prison camp and keep suspects there instead-
It's why Think Progress exists. They are committed to telling the truth. And no one does it better.
Where's your commitment to jobs Romney? Isn't this your expertise? Evidently not.
Obama's jobs record is far, far worse.
According to the examples Pat Boston cites: 3,425 jobs were lost after the companies acquisitions by Bain Capital.
How many jobs lost under President Obama and the Democratic Congress? 7 million, isn't it?
To quote President Obama: It could have been worse.
Twisted logic stands out, Candice.
Bain Capital founded, acquired, or invested in hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Toys R Us, Unisource, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.
Pat Boston talks about a handful of companies in which jobs were lost, but the jobs created by the others number in the hundreds of thousands.
You have to excuse Candy & look the other way -- tea baggers don't DO logic!
It's NOT in their genetic make-up - just take a gander at the NJ nut job... her head is about to explode ane we are still months out from the election...
In the meantime - her precious cat is still searching for a way to OFF himself!
Behold the continued power of Nojo over the old gal.
One of you libbies really ought to tell Feisty how sadly pathetic she looks.
Wait, don't do that, this is far more entertaining.
I don't suppose Pat, Richard, or Feisty could identify the net amount of jobs created by Romney?
Of course not, that's not on Think Progress, and never will be.
Be nice Fiesty. Be objective... it worked to help heal some of our differences. Like Forrest told me yesterday, and you know I respect him, saying what you mean in a different vein might cause some wounds to heal... of course I am paraphrasing but that's what his meaning was. Not suggesting there isn't a lot of bad blood... but sometimes... just sometimes... not putting your deepest, darkest thoughts out there can serve a greater purpose.
Always remember... nobody out here can hear you scream while sitting behind your computer monitor. ::hint, hint:: (smile)
Come on, Feisty. You know I'm not a Tea Partier. I do have my handy calculator, though, and 3400 jobs versus 7 million jobs......I think that's a pretty big difference. In 1999 through 2003, laid off workers easily found other jobs. Usually good ones with companies not on the brink.
2009-2011, the job market isn't as easy. Which makes President Obama's record, sadly, sadly even more unconscionable. (Isn't that how one of your Democrats put it?)
Spanky, Candice, Brian, nojo, jas1, etc., etc.:
BULL HOCKEY
Sorry Candice - the tea party OWNS what's left of the Republican party.
So, by default you are in fact, a bagger...
I don't suppose Pat, Richard, or Feisty could identify the net amount of jobs created by Romney?
Of course not, that's not on Think Progress, and never will be.
Spanky maybe navy boy can he lives on think progress.
What Romney's staff may have figured out or stumbled upon is to make as much use of FOX as possible and to thereby mute any Obama news. It's better and far cheaper than actual campaign spending. If O's team hasn't figured this out, it had better. Don't announce in advance what you are doing or where; otherwise you are going to be dealing with the Romney shadow all the way to Nov. 2012. On the jobs front - Romney's plan is easy to predict, freeze of new regs (translation - don't implement Health Reform or Dodd-Frank), and tax holiday for overseas profits (translation - not tied to actual job creation, so corps will simply increase executive pay and declare larger dividends, like in 2005 when Bush did the same thing). The trick for Obama is how to reduce some regs and still impliment HCR and D-F, and how to actually police a tax holiday so that jobs are created in the short term.
Romney is a great "job creator".
He creates them in Bangalore, Bejing, Madras, Bangladesh, Cayman Islands, Mexico,....etc....
And he wants to take this magnificent program nationwide.
Just elect him President.
Serious help on Isle......V.I.U!!!!!!!!
At Bain Capital, Romney helped start new companies and turned around failing ones. He was behind the start up of Staples. Starting with one store in 1986, Staples now is the world's largest office products company with $24 billion in sales in 2009. (4),(6) He also helped companies such as Sealy, Brookstone, The Sports Authority, and Domino's. (4)
These companies employ hundreds of thousands of US workers.
What is even more noteworthy is the fact that he never blamed the previous management for his own difficulties.
Of course American Pad & Paper products aren't among the manufacturer's products sold by Staples...anyoe heard the scoop on Bain Capital & EDGAR? (EDGAR is a company that prepares filings for SEC. In other words, it has the capacity to access insider info on every company that uses the service.) Helluva position for a corporate rraider to be in, eh?
Ah, come on folks! Romney has a plan... He's going to build new mansions all over the country for his family! That should work!!
What's the matter Lyn - you jealous?
Come on Lyn, the house in question is small, a mere 3,000 square feet. They do have 3000 sq. feet houses in your town, do they not? Why I bet yours is at least 2k.
Not like the one big Al Gore's just bought in Santa Barbara Just inches above the water line and tens of thousands of square feet.
Gee Spanky.... I wonder where Al Gore got all that evil money from? It couldn't have had anything to do with a certain movie that every liberal I know went to. A movie filled with speculation and opinion that has somehow developed into a cult of sorts. Isn't Al Gore to be the central point of cap and trade? All that money and credit exchanges running through his fingers... maybe he's a little angry that the US government hasn't instituted C&T yet... all those billions of dollars in his control to distribute it to... hey, who is he supposed to distribute it to anyway?
Romney is not my favorite,but he is running an outstanding campaign,I do beleive he will be the next president! You can take that to the bank.
I'll play it more safely with my money and predict Obama makes a comeback. I'll take my money to a more solvent bank than yours. You know one of the banks that didn't need to get bailed out, like NYB.
B.H.O. put his trojan horse candidate Huntsman in the race but us conseratives are too smart to bite.
I agree that "conseratives" are probably too smart to bite but I don't know about those conservatives though.
Romney told east Michigan auto workers in 2008 that he would bring back the automobile industry jobs. In early 2009 he advocated the demise of General Motors and Chrysler Corporation. His jobs plan may be more or probably fewer jobs. Either way, it's about jobs and not about employment. Romney has eight positions on any issue.
You certainly have a way with words, Affinity or is it it more like you have an affinity for the right combination of words. lol. Good post.
Beware my Republican friends. You have alot of industrialists in this economy keeping their powder dry. They are sitting on billions in capital but just don't want to risk anything right now. Could it be that they just don't want to assist Obama in any way and would rather tank the country? Or, are they so greedy they don't want to work for 69% of whatever they make? (They already get to keep over 80% of their long-term capital gains.) They will only work their money when they can keep more than 75% of everything. We've had relatively LOW taxes for a long time. Our government is broke. If you don't want to tax and you don't want to borrow, government won't spend and then all government can do is wait - LIKE HERBERT HOOVER. You don't understand how dangerous the situation is. We almost had a depression at the end of '08. Your four corners offense will bring us a big one SOON (like January of next year - if those automatic cuts kick in when the Tea Party fools won't compromise). It won't matter who walks in front of whom on Jan. 20, 2013. If we destroy completely the middle class's demand for goods, people will be selling apples on the corner again. Unemployment will reach 15% QUICKLY. Unemployment insurance will dry up. Europe is tanking. Housing continues to tank. With no federal rescue, look for housing to go down another 20 to 25%. Clap all you want for a new Republican president. The rabble in the street will burn down the White House. And many of you won't have a pot to piss in. But you can have the satisfaction of telling your grandchildren that some conservative industrialists and some tea party morons took down Obama when they also took down the country.
beyonddemocrat-what a piece of nonsense.
BTW-I'm self employed and have businesses both here and globally. I do well no matter who is in charge unless the Dems start trying to tax us to death as they love to do.
Beyond Democrat,thanks for a dose of reality.
You are so right. We are not in a recession, but the biggest global transference of wealth, power in the last century. American businesses are sitting on a ton of cash. Apple has more cash on hand than the US government when the debt ceiling was raised. What are they waiting for? Republicans say it is because of uncertainty. Well, uncertainly will be with us for years. US has lost 8 million jobs since 2008 and the meltdown, There has been an evaporation of wealth, mortgages besides job loss for the middle class.
LarryRobinson, You as a self employed person have not been part of the collateral damage yet. But unless you are a arms or drug dealer, even you business is not immune.
northstar- I don't have any worries-I'm debt free and live a low cost of living life. My businesses are all different and I've been self employed for 20 years.
I can live on less than 20k per year without any problems.
Larry, You are already living simply. You are and will be fine. But many people and many families are facing a bleak future. When they have to choose between food or medicne or paying the mortgage or the heating bill, they can only cut back so much. With no increase in income or a better job the are stuck in a vicious cycle.
Personal Responsibility?
See the Sunday LA Times. Executive compensation was 40 times the average workers' pay 30 years ago. It is now 300 times. Has the average CEO become that more productive, or the American worker that much less? Romney is simply one of a long line who believe that if you can get it, you deserve it, and then you want to control the government to preserve it. He has no more interest in the welfare of the average American than does the Premier of China or the British Prime Minister.
Wm 375 Obviously neither does President Obama, didn't he appoint a Pay Czar - Kenneth Feinberg to handle the CEO compensations and pay. How's that guy doing on his job? Maybe he should be fired or maybe Feinberg will start to do his job just after the President sucks all the money out of these CEO's for his relection campaign.
Maxine Waters can go to hell
Mitch17, You really have to get a new post. We get your message.
thank you for playing.
This is the reason President Obama will win this election by a landslide is because of the ignorant people like you who spill their hate like a waterfall and people are so tried of it. This President has stood up against this type of overwhelming racism and disrespect by you and many others and people like myself and serious minded Americans will never let people and people like you be in control. That would be like having a nutcase at the pulse of our nuclear arsenal.
If Romney gets out before the President with his version of a jobs plan, what are the odds that the President delays the release of his ideas.
How about the new Gallop Poll. What an eye opener.
By
Steven Shepard
updated
8/22/2011 8:01:10 PM ET2011-08-23T00:01:10
The top four Republican presidential candidates are running neck-and-neck with
President Obama in national general election matchups, according to a new
Gallup poll released Monday. The poll, conducted last week as Obama's approval rating cratered around 40 percent, shows Obama leading Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., 48 to 44 percent,
and Rep. Ron Paul, R-Tex., 47 to 45 percent.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry ties the president at 47 percent each, and former Massachusetts
Gov. Mitt Romney leads Obama, 48 to 46 percent.
His jobs plan had better be good or he might trail Bachmann and Paul also, wouldn't that drive the liberals crazy.
As far as maxine waters goes, before she condemns someone to hell, hadn't she better get satan's, oops Nancy Pelosi's permission first.
I'm betting that Romney's plan will be getting the government out of the way and based on free market ideas where Maobama's plan will be more "stimulus spending" to create jobs like the one where they sepnt $500,000 that created 1.72 jobs.
Mr Romney job plan looks like 50 new workers for upgrading his San Deigo home.
From past record Mr Romney is jobs killer.