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Subscribe to RSSRep. Paul Ryan will not be running for president.
"While humbled by the encouragement," the Wisconsin congressman said in a statement, "I have not changed my mind, and therefore I am not seeking our party's nomination for President."
Because of dissatisfaction with the Republican field from the establishment wing of the party, there have been continued rumblings of a Ryan or Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) candidacy.
Ryan has been a hero of conservatives for his budget plan that cut and restructured entitlements. But, because of his budget, he has also been a lightning rod, attracting criticism from the left for proposing partially privatizing Medicare.
Full statement below, posted on Ryan for Congress:
"I sincerely appreciate the support from those eager to chart a brighter future for the next generation. While humbled by the encouragement, I have not changed my mind, and therefore I am not seeking our party's nomination for President. I remain hopeful that our party will nominate a candidate committed to a pro-growth agenda of reform that restores the promise and prosperity of our exceptional nation. I remain grateful to those I serve in Southern Wisconsin for the unique opportunity to advance this effort in Congress."
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....and no one cared.
Rep. Paul Ryan will not be running for president.
Well now that's a crying shame!
I mean his Budget Plan was such a sensation with the seniors... lol
Given the results in the WI recall elections the last couple of weeks, Eddie Munster will be lucky to hold his house seat in 2012!
Actually, I'm surprised. A spark of sanity from the House Republicans. Never thought that was possible.
Rep Ryan (R, WI) proposes ending Medicare as we know it. He wants to turn it into a voucher program and privatize it. It is his solution to balancing the US budget.
Meanwhile, more than 80% of Americans agree that the wealthy 2% must pay their share of revenues in order to balance the US budget.
Pricing out seniors such as 80 year olds on their health care when they need it the most, is not "courageous" or "brave" by any measure ~~ right or left.
Like his fellow Norquist-eans, Ryan speaks on behalf of the super-rich. Just how much money in the coffers will be enough for them?
Get your Groupon, Grama & Grampa!
The GOP nut basket is already over-flowing. Can't handle any more.
The GOP is desperately looking around for ANYBODY. This is getting pathetic.
Well if a GOP should win the Presidency medicare is the least of our worries, the first thing on the agenda is to repeal the Minimum wage, imagine $2.60 an hour how will a person afford the $6.00 a gallon gas to get to work ......
Would you want to be associated with that group?
Damn, there goes my chance for a ready source cheap product for my start-up company. Ryan's Soylent Green, "Its old people". What do you think Ry, if that Wisconsin thing doesn't work out for you, Paul Ryan / CEO Soylent Industries.
Yes, a modicum of sanity - from the GOP.
If Ryan had decided to become a presidential candidate, he would have only worsened the GOP's efforts to take the White House back.
A Ryan candidacy would have made Ryan - ONE MORE wild extremist- among a Group of wild reactionaries.
Ryan would have NOT put the GOP and the Tea Party any closer to the Oval Office - this is Good News, indeed!
do think Ryan charged for this statement?
see fiesty and bev he wants to chart a brighter future for both of you.
[Paul Ryan not running for president]
...but there is talk of trotting out former governor of NY George Pataki...now THERE'S a stand-up guy...wait until the digging starts regarding his dealings with the State Police...that ALONE is going to sink his ship...
...be careful what you ask for, Georgie...you just may get it...
Like that little twirp could win anyway!!
Bachhouse, it's easy to write, "80% of Americans support that the top 2% should pay their fair share." That must mean they do pay their fair share, because they pay as required by law. It only takes 51% of Americans to create the law. Certainly the law is the will of 80%.
If you mean you believe American tax law should be modified so that the top 2% are required to pay more than they are now required by law to pay, say it. If you think the top 2% of Americans are dodging taxes illegally, say that.
Come on, Republicans ... DRAFT him. PLEEEEEEZE.
Given the merciless tongue-lashing his constituents gave him at his town halls, I'm not surprised.
Exactly. That's why I want them to draft him, and then he'd be outta here.
He couldn't even face his own constituents--definitely a clue for him.
When it comes time to pull the lever, "The People" won't go for crazies like Bachmann, or Bush on Steroids like Perry. We even saw this in 2010 with Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, etc. Some conservatives may hold their nose and vote for Romney the way they did for McCain, but come on. Polls, bravado...remember 2008? The silence afterward was golden.
Well, good.
Anyone who thinks he can get away with charging constituents to speak with him or ask him questions does not need to run for any office! Ryan has either forgotten who he works for or is so arrogant that he thinks nothing of fleecing the very people who pay his salary and Congressional expenses and benefits! But then, if you worked for Corporate Interests, you wouldn't care - or would you?
Greedy Biz Owner -
If you're going to quote other sources verbatim (right down to the misspelling of "leadering"), it's customary to give them credit, otherwise it's considered plagiarism. In this case, "your" thoughts are actually those of Neil King, Jr., a blogger for the Wall Street Journal:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/08/22/poll-finds-obama-losing-to-romney-tying-perry/
Oh, and you "forgot" to cut and paste this from the same article:
"But there are numerous examples of presidents lagging in head-to-head races at this point before an election, and going on to win handily the next year. Sen. Bob Dole led President Bill Clinton in August 1995 but went on to lose by eight points. Twelve years earlier, President Ronald Reagan led Walter Mondale by just two points but won by a landslide in 1984."
AnnaM, You can hope he gets a nod for the vice president spot.
Anna, can't remeber if WI is losing any congressional district in 2012? Is his seat safe from redistricting?
i guess the corporations hit their quota of candidates they can buy.
Ryan needs to watch his butt in SE Wisconsin, from the looks of the last open town hall meeting he had. He might not even make it back to the House. Not running for Pres., that's the only intelligent thing he has said in the last year.
Ryan would've been slaughtered. Has not been covered much, but his medicare plan offered tax incentives to energy companies. One of these companies; which would have benefited from the incentives he was proposing in the plan, was family owned. He also has investments in it.
Feisty, you seem to think his plan would touch Grandma and Grandpa....once again you are wrong. His plan would not effect anyone over the age of 55. Only people under age 55 would be effected and privatization was simply another option. You would have known this had you taken the time to research it. Obviously you get your information from Pelosi's talking points...you know...pass the bill and then you can find out what's in it. Great way to run a business/country. No wonder you are a champion of redistribution, not sharp enough to earn your own.
@ Northstar -- In case you meander by ...
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/ltsb/redistricting/Bills/SB149.pdf
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/ltsb/redistricting/bills.htm
The plan is to try to SAVE Privatize Ryan's seat by removing his hometown (Janesville) from it. LoL
(His is District 1, which currently spans the state, east to west)
Does that give you an idea of the kind of trouble he's in? After last Tuesday, the demographics strongly suggest that he would STILL be in trouble.
Feisty,
Time for some laughter so here is my (and I think yours) favorite satirist's view on politics:
Ryan smells like a loser.
Thanks Bayllie - Lord knows I'm always up for a good laugh! ;o))
"His plan would not effect anyone over the age of 55. Only people under age 55 would be effected"
You do realize that those who are 55 and under TODAY will be of the age to collect SS at some point, right? And that then they will BE Gramma and Grandpa, right? Under Ryan's plan, then they would have to use that voucher system.
"Obviously you get your information from Pelosi's talking points...you know...pass the bill and then you can find out what's in it."
Obviously you get yours from Fox as you should be well aware that that is not the full quote or the meaning behind what Pelosi said. And I sure am tired of having to repeat that.
"Great way to run a business/country."
A country is not a business. Businesses are supposed to make a profit for a small number of investors, while a country is supposed to provide for the welfare and defense of all. Comparing a country to a business or a household is not equivalent.
Feisty Red, Hey sweetheart. No matter what your comments are you have that 10% Fox propaganda troll's snipping at you. Rethuglicans has their freedom of speech as anyone else. They should also use it as intelligent as anyone else. Ryan will not run for President because his qualifications are only to rip off the Middle Class people and give to the Rich so that they will feed him election money However I doubt he will be a Senator after his election term come's up again. He is on high dollar wine drinking creep.
Hey Bob!
Long time no see - glad you're back on board... ;o)
As for my pet trolls - the I HATE Feisty Fan Club is expanding rapidly! lol
I get almost as much hate as the Presdient - must be doing something right!
Be well my friend!
Interesting views and given the article in Saturday's wall street journal I am not sure your assessment of Wisconsin Anna Molly is correct. Walker's approval ratings have actually been increasing as the positive impact of his fiscal policies have started to set in. He saved $25 million this year in Milwaukee's budget by eliminating the requirement that no bid health contracts in the union contracts. Teacher's jobs across the state have been saved, and the forecast of horrible economic consequences just hasnt come true. The two recalls he lost were not based on the union issue as they did after voting polls, it was because one republican had a nasty affair with a young woman which got out and in the other, the county turned democrat. The union issue played no role as people were already entrenched in their position before the vote. The chances of a Walker recall are not only getting more unlikely, the reelection chances are getting better as your boy Fienstein decided not to run against him.
Ryan may be unpopular to progressives and who knows whether his entitlement plans are the best, as you guys dont know either. But he had the guts to put something on the table to initiate a discussion we have to have. Its like all of you guys against education reform, you complain about the inequities in education and then when its time to try something, out come the cries from the union "you cant do that" "that wont work" and of course there never is a good answer for why not and lets try something novel because what your doing now isnt working.
GreedyBizOwner - Where'd you go? Back to your rat hole most probably. Just thought I'd weigh in on your post # 1.9. I think the most important part of your "plagiarism" is "if the election were held today". Well its not being held today nor will it be held until 11/2012. In politics, over a year out is like trying to predict the price of gas, not knowing what the world economy, weather conditions or political conditions in the oil producing countries. At best its a crap shoot. Considering this is Gallup polling its a bit suspect to say the least. Counting your chickens now will most assuredly leave you with nothing more than chicken crap. But of course you can dream!
The election is over a year away and without a huge economic turnaround, Obama is unlikely to survive. Head to head polls where he is losing really is bad news when you apply that to the electoral college and the fact that candidates like Romney, Perry or others are likely to pick VP candidates like Rubio or Guiliani that will help them win key states or regions. Finally, these candidates on the national stage will start campaigning to the independents and stop pandering to the base of their parties just like Obama did in 08. Its hard to see a big enough economic turnaround at this point to save him and thats without any judgement on his economic policies and their failure to work.
Kirk - Head to head match ups this far out are more a reflection of the frustration of the public at this moment in time. When the Repug nominee is chosen, then and only then, will be able to able to see what each sides vision of where we need to go and how they propose to accomplish that. I concede to you that Romney will wheel away from the Teabaggers and far right elements and attempt to position himself to the middle. But Perry or Bachmann may try that but the replaying of their positions over the airways will drown out any repositioning attempt. Americans will normally turnout a President that doesn't walk the walk, but this election, I believe, will turn on the picture of where the country was at the end of the Bush era and where the President wants to take us. The far rights program to dismantle the safety net and leave everyone to their own fate isn't going to fly. Commonsense should lead you to the conclusion that the POTUS will prevail and attain a second term. IMHO.
Totally disagree amused and not based on political philosophy. Bush won a second term being a very social conservative because the electoral college works in that favor at the moment. I dont think Bachmann has a chance at the nomination so discounting her. Perry has far more appeal across the country even if he appears to be more conservative. I dont think independents or those who dont already vote one direction are going to make a voting decision based on social policy positions but on economic and fiscal matters assuming the country is still muddling along. The election really comes down to about 8 states regardless of who runs so its really about which candidate can carry enough of those 8 states to win the electoral college. If Rubio is the VP not only does he stand a good chance to bring florida with him but he stands a good chance at pulling down the democratic latino vote. There is no way Obama carries NC or virginia in this election regardless of who runs so that leaves Ohio, Penn, Mich, Colorado wisconsin. Obama has a good shot at colorado and Wisc so it leaves Penn, Ohio and Michigan all with republican governors. I would say a fiscal policy oriented GOP candidate has a great shot at all of these states.
As for the far right dismantling the safety net what are you talking about? Thats so hyperbolic that you lose all credibility by even saying it. Which safety net can you give me in which any GOP candidate or congressman has proposed where the budget cut was below the level of inflation growth or revenue growth? You do realize that most proposed cuts are cuts to the rate of growth not absolute dollar cuts. You do know the safety net has grown like by 80% already and is more than double the rate of inflation during Bush's era. Are you talking about social security in which 3 dollars are given back for every dollar paid in and is given to the wealthiest segment of our population? Our seniors control 80% of the wealth in this country and medicare where 10 dollars are given back for every dollar paid. Both of which are going to cause a vast reduction in the standard of living for our kids and grandchildren if we dont do something. So tell me which far right person you are talking about?
Kirk - "W" was a sitting "war time(his choosing) President". Get my drift! Perry is far right and his performance will come back to haunt him big time, should he gain the nomination. My greatest disappointment would be if he self-destructed before attaining the nomination. Certainly those in the middle decide who is elected, no argument there. How can the country do anything but muddle along, istn't it apparent that's the "Party of NO" modus operandi. Do you think that the public isn't making note of that, putting their dogma first and to hell with what is best for our nation. Really! I have to laugh when anyone claims a minority or a woman added to a ticket is the game changer. People don't give the VP candidate more than a passing thought for the most part, while I must concede "Bailin" Palin did move the electorate to back Obama. The electoral college may have a tilt but this election will be fought and closely contested, no doubt. I in no way, think this is forgone conclusion in the least. Whether a state has a GOP or Dem Gov. doesn't make any election a forgone conclusion either.
The GOP continuing quest to dismantle SS and Paul Ryans legislation to dismantle Medicare and Medicaid by "bait and switch" vouchers. Do you really think senior citizens are going to believe the GOP that those currently on SS have nothing to fear. I mean really do believe that. Do we need to shore up these programs? Yes! Do I know exactly how this will be done? No! That's our politicians job and the public will be watching very closely. Hope that answers most of your questions.
Amused, I am not nor was I a Bush fan and he was hated by the left to a degree that has transcended into the following elections including this one. However, he won despite that and I dont believe his war time made a difference. Again the party of no crap is silly posturing as the senate hasnt put forth any plans and democrats controlled the house for two years. The republican house has passed a ton of bills --you may not like them no different than the republicans liking what the democrats did the first two years--but thats politics as usual. Both parties have different philosophies so its natural to call the party you disagree with the party that wont compromise. I am not a Perry fan, but just because someone panders to their base during the primary season means nothing. Dont you remember all the right wing screaming that Obama is a marxist, socialist, hangs out with terrorist Ayers and that nasty Jeremiah Wright. Obama was smart enough to know that pandering to this same crowd after he got the nomination would mean he would lose so he immediately took positions in the middle to appeal to the independents. Of course Perry will do that. He was a democrat 20 years ago and I assume he can pick up the middle ground pretty easily and your kidding yourself if he wont appeal to the independents outside the coastal states especially the white male and female voters. I agree the VP candidate is not a game changer except in the state they are from which if Rubio is nominated brings a huge state with him. I agree that Palin was a mistake but I dont think she moved the needle as all she did was solidfy both bases as the looney left hated her and far right loved her. I agree that I dont think this is a foregone conclusion at all and so much depends on the economy but I dont think whats going on currently is stacking up very well for Obama. By the way I dont think the democrats are putting the people first either and their dogma stands in the way. Class warfare, government entitlement for unions (who do you think is buying the elections these days? Unions and Soros), education reform is being blocked at every corner, ramming the job killing Obamacare down everyone's throats, passing jobs killing regs every week from mandating free contraceptives and wellness care for all women to raising EPA standards pushing additional manufacturing jobs overseas, to raising licensing and registration fees for new busineses, making it difficult for farmers to meet new green energy regs. Come on Amused open your eyes as the democrats are not putting this nation first either. I thought the tea party people went to far but got to give them credit for someone standing up and putting a line in the sand on spending.
There is no GOP quest to dismantle SS and it appears you have been reading too many conspiracy blogs. It sounds like you are one of those current seniors getting social security or about to so you are speaking with your own financial economic well being in mind. Thats not objective as thats like the teachers not wanting education reform or merit based pay even if it works because it might impact them personally--remember dont put your dogma before the best interests of the nation. There is zero chance that current recipients of social security are going to be impacted. Whether Ryan's plan is the right one is irrelevant the real question is why are you afraid of having the discussion? When Obamacare was first thought of, it created the debate remember? All Ryan is doing is creating the debate and I noticed there werent any democrats coming up with their own solutions so far? Did I miss something if they did? How do you know Ryans's plan wont work? It worked for welfare reform--or are you just stating what you read on some progressive web site? I am not an advocate of it because I truly dont know but I know that we need to start down the road of discussing reform and I respect him for taking the hit first.
Kirk - Wow kudos to you for giving credit to Ryan's reform legislation? None for Obama's "Health Care Reform Law"? Biased some what, I think, you are. I mean you have to start some where, ain't that right? Is it perfect, not likely. Is it a good beginning, for sure and will be improved in his 2nd term. Back to the top of your post, so Bushs war on terrorism and his campaign of fear waged on our populace had no effect, your ADD not withstanding, it in my mind was crucial and obviously worked. It was "quite colorful", if your recall, that is. As I understand it, the Repub House hasn't produced as much legislation historically speaking, as other majorities have in the recent past(going back 50 yrs.) With their filibuster proof majority(due to the rules of the House, 50% plus one is king) how could they not be able to pass their agenda. As for the Senate, a completely different world(bizzaro to say the least but "it is what it is", right, not a complaint)that requires 60 votes, of which the Demo's had for about a 6 month period not two years as you and others think, to pass legislation to avoid the "filibuster" used more frequently than at any other time in our countries history. Of course, the "big debt ceiling brouhaha", which per the Repugs insisting, would not be passed, until of course the clock struck midnight, brought everything to a standstill. More of the same in the run up to the Thanksgiving "big debt ceiling, part II - super-committee dust-up - kabuki theatrical presentation, that is. You have a peculiar nonsensical political thought process. Would Obama, need to be a rocket scientist to figure out the radical right accusers would never support him, you mentioned most but forgot the "birther controversy". All of the garbage hurled at him didn't stick, I mean how could any rational human being(excluding the wacko right-wing mob) buy any of that crap, certainly not a majority of the electorate. Perry has a "lot" of conservative baggage not to mention his being a Texan(like everyone has forgotten Bush and eliminated the bad taste of that fiasco - but not of course in the delusional day dreams of the rightist memories, have they all been completely brainwashed yet? Sure, I would expect Perry to attempt to swing to the middle but then again I already gave you my response, not happening with any chance of success. I have no doubt that comprise from both sides is required to get things done. The POTUS has been willing to compromise but unwilling to a total surrender to the rightist. In fact, I have been retired for 10 years and in 2012 at 63, I will start collecting SS benefits. If reducing said benefits is decided to be necessary, I for one could afford to make a sacrifice. Unfortunately not every is able to take a cut and if SS is their only source of income then we cannot balance the budget on their backs. I regret not having the time to be able to respond to everything, but I going out to eat and take in a movie. Will check back tomorrow, if further explanation is requested. Till then.
Amused, thanks for your thoughtful response as its obvious that you and I maybe at the older stage of life as I am 51 can actually have a discussion without too much name calling. I apologize if you ever took offense its just that the hyperbolic screaming and personal attacks on this blog are mind boggling. I dont like Palin or Bachmann but why do they drive the looney left so crazy as if they are that bad, then it will be very clear to the voting public. Its no different than the right wing nut jobs who call Obama every name in the book as if he is that bad, he will be voted out of office. Where you and I differ is that for every crazy right wing nut job you like to say I also see a crazy left wing looney. You have the Farrakhans, the snail darter environmentalists, you have the jeremiah wright anti american crowd, you have the socialists, you have the lets pat the terrorists on the head and say we are sorry crowd, we have the rehabilitate sex offenders, crazy greenies, make circumcision illegal, PETA, anarchists and I could go on forever and all of these groups vote the democratic lever and get pandered too by Pelosi and her crowd. So its hard to be all the sympathetic to the complaints about the Tea Party as it goes both ways.
I didnt get Ryan any credit but I give him respect for initiating the dialogue. I really dont know and I am pretty certain nobody else does whether his proposal would work or not. But a good healthy debate would create the entitlement reform discussion that we must have. No I dont give Obamacare any credit because its awful legislation. It doesnt do anything it originally intended. Its going to cost 10 times what it estimated and will lower the health care benefits from where we currently are. Does that mean I am against universal care? no. We just needed to decide one or the other and we got neither. Instead of addressing the expense side of health care and the access for the 15% who didnt have access to affordable care, they created a system that will drive the costs up further like the new regs that came out last week mandating contraceptives to females and wellness care by insurance, added new payroll taxes, and added a fine for corporations with more than 50 people if they dont provide insurance. The fine is actually less than the cost of the insurance so most large companies will eliminate corporate provided health care in numbers much larger than originally estimated. The wall street journal estimates that 80 million workers could lose employer provided health care as result and be put in the exchanges. Now do you really think the exchanges will provide health care less expensive with the same benefits that they had with their employers? No way. And their is no chance it gets improved in his second term as its more likely to be tossed aside. I agree with you that it created the debate which leads me to my next response to your comments in that I agree with you that neither side seems willing to pass something but I am lost as to why you blame the repugs as you call them. The problem is equal and Obama was not willing to compromise thats just him trying to seem moderate. The problem is both sides are entrenched in certain philosophical positions and wont deviate but the media likes to blame it on the GOP. You cant blame the filibusters on the GOP because the bills that were brought up for vote provided no riders or compromise. You cant blame the GOP for not willing to give when the democrats wouldnt give them a voice. Do you forget that Pelosi and Reid would not take up tort reform, insurance competition, union concessions etc that would have brought the GOP to the table? The debt ceiling deal was bad on both parts, I blame everyone. Obama showed no leadership and both parties of congress had their heads up their asses. The democrats refuse to put any proposals forth on entitlement reform or any real spending cuts (not cuts to growth)--NONE. The proposals that Obama talked about had zero cuts to the budget. The GOP is just as bad as they dont want to talk tax increases. We need to reform the tax code and if it increases taxes as deductions and loopholes get closed they need to accept it. But to blame it all on one party just gets us nowhere.
As for Perry I would agree his Texas background probably is a negative for him but I would never have thought a community organizer who hung around Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezco and is a product of the Chicago machine politics could get elected. I live in Chicago so trust me its as dirty as dirty can get. I dont know where you live, but I happen to be from a very small town 70 miles from Chicago where I get back frequently and have to travel to NC, VA, NY City very often. It is a fundamental truth that outside of the urban coastal areas and Chicago, Obama is extremely or very unpopular in that he would not win against Perry regardless of many of the concerns. But I agree the issues you raised could make it close but if the economy continues to sputter, I dont think Obama has a shot.
Is this news? Feisty thinks it is.
Ryan needs to stay where he is, where he will do some good. Plenty of time for president later. The wrong are wrong and will not see it coming.
Kirk, look at who are the most ardent supporters of the wrong one. Most are Illinois shills, pretending socialism works while living in the most corrupt state ever. What did you expect from them?
Next to Claifokyou, Oregon is doing the same thing. Corruption everywhere. The largest city, Portland, is headed by a pervert. Plays to the Sanfanciscomites that keep moving here. Economy destroyers are on the wrong side. People see them for who they are. Kill economies so they can save a bird few have ever seen, then let the forest burn where it lives. The wrong are the dumbest people on the planet.
They love the tax credits for "green energy" which is 6x what the oil industry receives, while ignoring the fact that it never pays for itself.
They want cheep gas prices but don't want to drill in America. They say they want to reduce oil dependence, but love the plastics produced by it.
Such a fickle bunch. The stupid shouldn't be allow to vote. Legalize pot so they will be content and stupid.
Too bad. Â Just another no talent A clown that wouldn't have a chance but would be fun to watch get smoked in the primaries.
Well there goes the Bagger chances, this election cycle! He was the more reasonable voice in that crowd. Now all they have left in the race are a bunch "take no prisoner" nuts!
Not a chance jbird, Paul Ryan is the one who created the "let's rob the seniors, the middle class and the poor" playbook that every Republican in both the House and the Senate has signed on to, which I don't find reasonable at all.
I doubt very seriously that Paul Ryan would want to face all the crowds of seniors he'd have to face in order to run for the Republican Nomination, and we know how Republicans show up to their Town Hall Meetings, "heavily" equipped, if you catch my drift.
That's a funny one American Girl.
So you are either 12 years old or no super well versed in your history.
They have been pillaging Social Security for many, many years.
girl, the tract we are on is unsustainable, so address it now or address it later, sooner or later the funds will not be there.
dontgivemethepenguin - Obama attempted to solve the problem by increasing revenues, but the thugs prevented him from doing it. The funds will be there if they keep the money out of the general fund, and increase the contribution to all income. Regardless of amount earned. Then, in the interest of shared sacrifice put a cap on pensions.
Anna,Saw your maps of WI. Ryan will need to watch his back for his re election.
In MN , Governor Datyon vetoed the redistricting mappassed by the House. It is now up to the Courts. Because we did not lose any seats, there will be just minor adjustments around the edges. It sohuld all be done by FEB 2012.
rv, so you are proposing to limit spending with a cap? That is what some are saying to get under control out going monies before we raise taxes. Citizens are suffering enough. We need to take home as much income as possible and Uncle Sam needs to get it's spending under control. If it is a cap you want to call it fine.
Spanky-
"That's a funny one American Girl.
So you are either 12 years old or no super well versed in your history.
They have been pillaging Social Security for many, many years."
Spanky, that is funny from someone who didn't live during the Johnson admin. He was the one who robbed ssi to pay for the VN war he escalated along with his stupid welfare programs that didn't bring anyone off the gov dole. Look it up.
It is really a shame that todays "know it alls" don't know squat. Blame Carter for that with creating the "education (dumbed downed) dept.
and we care why?
He's probably going to be lucky if he can keep his seat in congress.
He won his district last November by 68% and not much has changed since then. I suspect he'll be OK.
"He won his district last November by 68% and not much has changed since then. I suspect he'll be OK."
They why is he now charging people to attend his "town hall" meetings. He's afraid to face the voters in his district. He reminds me of Bush in that every "public" event had to be scripted. A whole lot has changes since his last election.
You do realize that he isn't charging for a town hall meeting, right? That he is the invited speaker for a local rotary cllubs regular meeting and the $15 is to cover the cost of the lunch thats being served. But I suppose it is a lot more fun to spread ignorant lies than accept that you'd not question it from a pol on your side of the aisle, isnt it?
Have the speakers and attendees "brown bag" it or better yet have the Koch brothers cover the lunch tab.
How many seniors on fixed incomes can pony of 15 bucks for a rubber chicken lunch?
What ever happened to FREE & OPEN government?
Hiding behind the Rotary Club ain't gonna cut it!
Feisty, given that you seem to be the protector of the wealthy in this country, probably most of them. Seniors control 80% of the wealth in this country in the aggregate so its interesting that you want to tax those millionaires so much. I would be a substantial majority of those millionaires are seniors earning $50-75 thousand a year in dividends and interest but yeah lets go tax them and take their hard earned money away. They shouldnt have worked so hard all of those years and saved for retirement those greedy bastards they should have spent every dime having fun and they could be collecting welfare checks now from Obama and getting free medical care from Obamacare. What were they thinking how stupid and fiscally irresponsible of them. But its good that you Fiesty are there to rectify the situation and tax those millionaires. Oh wait, you dont want to touch their social security though right? So you want to tax them so they can be poor again and say look at poor granny she is out on the street we need to give her more social security.
"You do realize that he isn't charging for a town hall meeting, right? "
BS!!! Can you say SPIN????
Charlie-1915998
"He won his district last November by 68% and not much has changed since then. I suspect he'll be OK."
"They why is he now charging people to attend his "town hall" meetings."
Maybe you should ask Carter why your English is so bad. Just pointing out a fact Sarah.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
"How many seniors on fixed incomes can pony of 15 bucks for a rubber chicken lunch?"
How many rubber chickens did you buy before realizing they were rubber?
"What ever happened to FREE & OPEN government?"
Ask Obama, Mr Transparant who has disclosed none of his past, did all the Obamacare dealings behind closed doors, wouldn't allow any republican a voice in the matter, and is now using a backdoor policy to legalize illegal immigrants. Get a clue babe.
Of course as an MSNBC shill you will never respond to logical questions. That isn't your job. Stirring up mud is all you can do.
Paul Ryan has maintained that it is possible to get fewer votes and eventually win by removing other contenders.
Nobody wanted to pay $15.00 to vote for him.SOOO SAD!!
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Gere Paul --- why not land on the pond and join the rest of the loons???
a smart chap,
unless he wanted to be shark bait. i suspect his ego knew exactly what would have happenned to him. he would rather hide behind his political insider reputation.
but i think it actually would have helped the gop get their hands around the reality of the damage they have done.
Seriously? Someone, besides himself, actually thought he would be a good president? Wow, that just boggles the mind!
Aww... that is really too bad. I was so looking forward to having both him and Sarah Palin to join the GOP Republican nomination for a full circus act. Now how can I get this full circus experience without two of the biggest clowns? I am very disappointed. I guess the GOP Republican Presidential Nomination this time will not have their full entertainment value this time around. I am very sad.
The circus already has the King of the Clowns, Obama.
Now if we could just get Michelle (farm subsidy) Bachman to take that annoying squeeky voice of hers and stay down in Graceland where she could study some of the Elvis dates of importance, our country just might have chance of survival. In my opinion, the only one in the race with a brain is Obama.
I agree. "Obama 2012"
You scarecrows think Obama has a brain. His record, which no Democrat mentions, indicates that he absolutely has no brain, no class and no spine. You are so dense that you are content to keep drinking the kool-aid.
Jerry40yeardemocrat
You scarecrows think Obama has a brain. His record, which no Democrat mentions, indicates that he absolutely has no brain, no class and no spine. You are so dense that you are content to keep drinking the kool-aid.
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Look, you'll have to to better than that if you want to be able to go out and play. Your are now clear to land on pond "5"........................
Whew!!!......boy am I glad I didn't have all those cheesehead hats made in China to sell at the GOP convention.....now I need to round up the full body tea bagging suits to sell before everyone sobers....I mean wakes up!
This is gonna be a good one, I highly recommend setting up the DVR to record all of the coverage on this right now.....this is gonna make the Keystone Kops look like the Untouchables in comparison.
He will be lucky to be re-elected as a Wisconsin Congressman.
Any Republican would be lucky to win in WI, Walker is running scared, NOW he wants to sit down and compromise with the DEMS, too little too late as far as I'm concerned.
Did you hear, Channel 3000 called Walker out on another lie, regarding over 12,000 jobs lost last month, Walker blamed it on the US & international economy, but took credit for creating those measely 9,500 seasonal jobs, which most will be laid off by fall. Editorial Neil Hyman told Walker to start telling the truth, as if thats gonna happen, has told the truth in the past why start now, sounds like that is the way of the Repugs & Teabaggers all around this country!
He was going to have some 'splaining to do about his role in the debt ceiling debacle.
Republicans may now put a suit on Gadhafi and throw his towel into the ring.
No, we already tried an African idiot and look what happened.
Maybe its because of his disastrous plan to end Medicare for anyone under 55! Of course, all of the other Repubs want to end Medicare as well
Yea, I'm under 55. Why would I vote for a guy who throws me under the bus?
Duh-Ohp! Don't say "BUS'.... Geez, we just got 'em all settled down over on the right last week.
I know the Republicans would have everyone believe that it is only far left liberals that don't like the tea party fools currently holding this country hostage.
Where would we have been if we had listened to their plans to privatize the social security? The lack of oversight on Wall Street would have put Sr's in an even worse place than they are now.
Come on folks. Let's work together. No one party or individual has all the answers - expecially Ryan.
It is already a three ring circus, we didn't really need any more clowns.
It would have been fun, he didn't just vote to kill social security, he wrote the bill.
Ron Paul 2012!
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It's funny that Ron Paul came in second in the Ames Iowa straw poll but was barely mentioned by Fox "News" or any of the other news organizations. Only Jon Stewart mentioned him. So without the republican spin machine backing of Fox "news", I really doubt Ron Paul has much of a chance.
Those are some pretty common statements that sum up the apathetic mindset of all too many people.
1. Judge the book by its cover
2. Judge the book by someone else's review of the book
3. What book?
@daryl-2183015
Here is a good one...
Ron Paul has been ripping into the Federal Reserve for three decades for the erosion of our currency.
Rick Perry accepted millions in stimulus dollars over the past few years that were used to balance his state's budget and just recently he accused Ben Bernanke of treason.
Boo hoo. I'm heartbroken.
We can all sleep well tonight knowing this wacko is NOT interviewing for the job.
Is any Republican candidate not a wacko?
Yes the generic candidate is not wacko it doesn't open it's mouth and spew crap.
Is any Democratic candidate not an idiot? I'd take a wacko over Obama any day. I'd take anything (say a monkey) over Obama any time.
Hntsman is not a whacko, but thank goodness Ryan realizes he's too much baggage for any party to tow.
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Huntsman IS breaking away from the rest of the nut cases, and trying to prove he is a normal, rational thinking human being. The bagger crew obviously stands no chance in hell, which would leave only Gordon Gekko (aka Romney). Huntsman just might prove to be the TBgop's only chance.
He guaranteed himself that he'll never be elected now that he's let it be known that he wants to end Medicare. "Kill all the old and infirm" is the new GOP motto.
Jay, Unfortunately, you drank the kool aid that Msnbc and other "journalists" feed you. Why not investigate on your own and sober up? You won't sound so gullible.
"Rick Foster, the chief actuary of Medicare, endorsed Ryan's plan as the best way to save Medicare from going bankrupt: "I would say that the Roadmap ( Ryan's plan) has that potential. There is some potential for the Affordable Care Act ( Obamacare) price reductions, although I'm a little less confident about that."[41]
Investigate!!! Leoan you ignorant slut. He wanted to give vouchers to seniors to purchase insurance. There woud be no more Medicare.
From reading these comments, I now see how this country was stupid enough to elect an Obama
Hey Stan, no need for insults. Since I've been married for over 25 years, I think the insult is far from apropriate. It says alot about you, though. Ryan wanted to give vouchers to FUTURE SENIORS because Medicare is going bankrupt if nothing is done anyway. His plan would not have affected all the current individuals who are over 55 years of age. Stan, put down your welfare check, get a grip and read all the facts. I realize the truth is hard to handle when you live on hand-outs which are drying up.
Excellent post Leona, hope you are getting through to some. Most liberal/progressives don't want to hear you so they yell.
I suppose I would be upset if I needed to suckle the Government teat and you were speaking of change.
Daryl, you do realize that Bush's proposal to privatize social security wouldnt have put a dime into the stock market right? You would be getting just what you want, the amount of contributions you put in with an earnings component with no danger of it being used by other parts of the government. Paul Ryan and the teabagging republicans are not taking a penny from what you have been paying into the system for 35 years. In fact as things are going you will get at least 3 dollars for everyone 1 you put in and probably more. Which means you are really just asking for welfare from your kids and grandkids. Yes its welfare and not insurance because if you bought a whole life policy your earnings would not be 3 to 1. Its not Fox News its basic economic facts. Besides you do realize that seniors in the aggregate control 80% of the wealth in this country so stop the bleeding heart nonsense.