During a press availability following a speech in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, Friday, Michele Bachmann was asked about a narrative that hasn’t gone away during the seven weeks she has been a presidential candidate: verbal gaffes.
“When you speak six times a day, slip-ups can occur,” Bachmann said.
The comment is the most frank Bachmann has been to date about a series of statements, dating prior to her announcement for president, that have caught notice by the public and in some cases have provoked clarifications from the candidate or her staff.
Appearing as a guest Thursday on a conservative talk radio show, Bachmann made reference to the cold war during a discussion of America’s modern-day position in the world. “There’s a fear that the United States is in an unstoppable decline,” Bachmann said. “They see the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of the Soviet Union and our loss militarily going forward.”
Bachmann, of course, meant Russia – the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991.
Earlier this week, at an event in Greenville, South Carolina, Bachmann asked the audience to celebrate Elvis Presley’s birthday. Her tour bus had just pulled into the event, timed to the opening bars of the campaign theme, the Elvis song “Promise Land.”
“You can’t do better than Elvis Presley,” Bachmann said, “and we thought we’d celebrate his birthday as we get started celebrating the ‘Take Our Country Back’ tour.” It was, however, the anniversary of Elvis’s death – a fact that Bachmann corrected during a media availability following the event. (Her campaign tells NBC News that Bachmann simply misspoke; that she is a lifelong fan of Elvis, and chose the campaign theme song herself.)
Despite the correction, the gaffes have renewed attention on earlier misstatements at a moment – one week after Bachmann’s win at the Ames, Iowa Straw Poll – when the campaign had been poised to move beyond them. Prior to running for president, Bachmann made news in March during a visit to a Manchester, N.H., school, where she told a group of students, “You’re the state where the shot was heard around the world in Lexington and Concord.’’
Bachmann appeared to be referring to the first shots of the Revolutionary War, which occurred in Massachusetts.
Friday, Bachmann corrected her statement on global affairs, saying, “We all know that it’s Russia, it’s not the Soviet Union.”
During her press availability Bachmann also referred to her mention this week of Enron, the Texas-based energy company that went bankrupt in 2001 amid a fraud scandal. Speaking about the federal debt at an event in Columbia, SC, Thursday, Bachmann said: “ever heard of Enron? You get shut down when you don’t pay your bills.”
The comparison – between the federal government on one hand, and, on the other hand, a company whose executives had been sent to prison – was first reported by NBC News. During her media availability Friday, Bachmann said of Enron: “I didn’t say that it was debt that took them down, I made a statement that this was a company that had accounting problems.”
Bachmann also attributed interest in her misstatements to the news media, arguing that voters are looking for solutions to real-world problems.
"The main thing people focus on in every single venue that I've been to is the economy and job creation," she said.


Right. Slip ups happen. D'oh.
So stop your whining and deal with them. Don't just put them out there in the ether and pretend nobody will notice. If you want to be President, act like a grown up.
Admit an error, beg forgiveness, then move on.
Or don't. And let it linger over your head as long as possible.
This comes across as - not my problem I can't walk & chew gum at the same time!
Currently, she is a two term congressional.
Number three ain't going to happen, much less POTUS.
Well, there's always 'corn dog lady' on the State Fair circuit.
we are glad to know Gaffs dont happen. Obama really does think we have 57 states..
Has this bitch ever admitted a mistake? She won't even admit marrying a gay guy was a bad move.
Too busy to get things straight? Well then, that's OK. She won't be busy as President, now will she?
"When you repeat memorized talking points over and over again you can do okay. It's when you actually ad lib with honest replies that the voters get upset--Ask Gordon Gekko Romney. Or when the "gotcha" media holds you to doing the homework and being knowledgeable--Ask Grizzly Mama Palin and Yosemite Sam Perry. In my case, I'm just out right unqualified," explained Batsh!t Bachmann.
The president is also leader of the free world, representing the American people all around the world, with a busy speaking schedule all the time for all the world to see. This is your trial run, and you are failing it.
Bachmann, when you are an idiot and speak, "slip-ups" occur. Being you are an idiot, I beg you, please, keep running for President, so we all have something to comment upon every time you speak; you are and idiot!
Her brain is the size of a walnut. Slip ups are bound to happen.
Hmmmm, kinda like Barrack Hussein not accepting ANY responsibility. His only problem is getting his tee times in at Martha's Vineyards.
" 57 states " ring a bell?
"57 States" was a tired slip-up. Bachmann actually believes the dumb crap that comes out of her mouth.
So if she was in fact [not] to become president we may come to expect even more gaffes then Bush man Jr. could have ever bestowed upon us? ;] Or is it just her being a subservient wife doing what her husband command's?
Ol' "BUSY ARMS" Bachman does it again. And again. .. And again and again and again and again.... ;]
Cheers
Barrack Hussein said that SFC Jared Monti was “the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honor to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously.”
Alas, he was mistaken. He awarded the Medal of Honor to Jared Monti posthumously in 2009 and awarded the Medal of Honor in person to SSG Sal Giunta in person in 2011.
Barrack Hussein actually believes the dumb crap that comes out of his mouth.
Thank you God! As a liberal democrat I hope and pray Michele gets the nomination;
both the nation and Saturday Night Live need a good and long laugh. Perry would be
great too; a Texan, stupid, stiff-necked and a person suffering from his own self-delusions
as he swaggers about the electorate with a snappy salute and more redneck dribble.
You betcha.........
Talk about a non-story by the Obama-network. All politicians experience this, and MSNBC acts like it is front page news. Pathetic.
The Republicans have become so right wing they are no longer recognizeable as a political party;
instead they have become, fortunately, a party for extremists who want to take this country
far from the democratic ideals from which it was started. Richard Nixon, Warren G. Harding and
U.S. Grant. three Republican heroes, would have difficulty gaining membership today!
Thank you God! As a Reagan Conservative I love watching Barrack Hussein slither around trying to pretend he has a clue what he's doing with our economy.
As the world rejects any of his policies he still believes in Keynesian idiocy. It never worked during the Great Depression and it will never work now. Maybe he'll visit Britain again and interrupt with a toast during the playing of their National Anthem.
What an embarrassing BUFFOON!
ABO (Anybody But Obama) 2012
She made an honest statement. I think the campaign trail bites the best at times.
What I object to is her position, her willingness to damage further a horrible economy, in the name of politics.
Both sides do things for political reasons. But the Tea Party has gone too far.
Imagine if the Democrats deploy the Tea Party tactics next time they are in power?
Is a dysfunctional government acceptable?
The Tea Party makes Karl Rove seem reasonable. And that is saying a lot.
Bachmann knows we have 50 states and not 57 like Obama thought. Remember, Obama didn't go to grade school and middle school here. By the way, the tea party is tame compared to what the union supporters do... look at what happened in Wisconsin.
Did she say this in all 57 States ?????
I think the bitch is on cocaine......
Looks like she has learned quite well from Obama, don't take responsibility for anything, blame everone else for everything.
steveiam
Can you possibly have a more lame criticism of the President? The "57 states" slip of the tongue was just that, a slip of the tongue from a very tired candidate in the middle of the campaign. Your statement that he "really does think there are 57 states" is so foolish that it reflects more on a person who believes it than the one who said it in the first place.
The fact is that there were 57 election contests, including those in such places as American Samoa, Puerto Rico, and Washington D.C., in addition to the 50 states. If you have to reach back more than three years to find a slip-up by someone you obviously don't like there must not be much to criticize. Next I suppose you will jump on the moron bandwagon and slam President Obama for using a teleprompter ..... as if everyone doesn't use it. He does write his own major speeches, which is more than you can say for many of your GOP heros.
Hi Feisty,
It's really hard to keep all those lies Bachmann is spewing all day straight!
It's more like walking and chewing gum and reading at the same time. She almost needs teleprompter with Great and Mystical Grover typing in the answers for her. She has a very hard time remembering the exact words that ALEC and Grover have programmed her to say. So be easy on her, she'll sink her own boat in due time.
Rick Perry is prettier, but his record as a Texas governor is not good at all. I live in Texas and we actually wish Bush would run again! THAT'S how bad Perry has been! He's Bought and paid for already, they polished him up too. Have you seen any of the ads he ran in Iowa? Out and Out LIES.
Put them ALL in a bag and shake it up and you can't tell one from the other! Funny how they all shake their heads "NO" in unison though isn't it!
I'm just glad she only has 2 feet to stick in her mouth!
redhead: Yet, you support the guy who has visited 57 states? Do you have any clue as to how ridiculous you sound? I've read how you've criticized every republican candidate. But, do you realize how all of your criticism can equally apply to Obama? Actually, and more so! Do you really think the economy is humming along and people are all employed? Just wondering.
Yeah, having one brain cell can be troublesome
Most of this stuff is inconsequential (Elvis) or because of non-stop, off the cuff speaking. Not important and could happen to anyone.
What is important (to me at least) are her views on religion and science and how she plans on incorporating them into her political agenda should she somehow be elected president. THAT I find terrifying.
She thinks she's busy now?! As President, she would be far busier and far more stressed. Imagine the 'gaffes' she could make when trying to negotiate with Russia or speak in front of the G8. She's not polished enough nor experienced enough to be what was once called "The Leader of the Free World".
Hmmmm.....so instead she should blame the Dems. That's all they do after all, blame the Reps for every single thing that happens or has happened. So please all you Dems who are telling her to grow up and take responsibility, learn to do that yourself before asking others to do it. Or do you want to do the other typical Dem thing and tell others to do as you say and not as you do?
You know it's bad when the right starts resorting to the silly "57 states" nonsense...as if a man who graduated from Columbia and Harvard -really- thinks there are 57 states...
Conversely, I have no doubt that Palin truly believes Paul Revere rode through town ringing bells to warn the British that Americans have guns, and no doubt at all that Bachmann did NOT know the "Soviet Union" broke up quite some time ago.
The Democrats have become so left wing they are no longer recognizeable as a political party;
instead they have become, fortunately, a party for Liberal Progressive extremists who want to take
this country far from the Federal Constitutional republic ideals from which it was started.
John Kennedy, Grover Cleveland and James Buchanan wouldn't know what happened to the party they knew.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I see the pathetic Liberal Progressives are all collapsing the posts that show what an enormous mistake was made in 2008.
A totally incompetent Community Organizer who was elected simply because of what he is not who he is. Your infatuation with making history has failed so miserably and you all know it. This inexperienced social-cultural experiment has been an abject failure. You can try to defend it but you all know it was a wasted effort.
Hopefully 2012 will bring us a real American who believes in American exceptionalism rather than apologizing to the world for his incompetence.
ABO (Anybody But Obama) 2012
With Obama's 57 state gaffe, his error was not in the number 57, but in the word state. He was referring to primary constituinces, of which there are 57 (Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, etc.) Yes, it was a gaffe, and a pretty silly error, but to say "state" instead of "district" is a little more forgivable than to say "57" instead of "50."
markmich What do we have from teh Republicans so far? Oh, I know. Dumb and dumber.
She actually did mention that there were 50 states, and all the liberals in the audience broke down laughing! Gotta layoff that koolaid folks!
There was a statement made to correct and explain the "57 state" error. Ms. Bachmann has repeated her "gaffes" even after the problems were pointed out to her.
Hmmmm, how about "corpse-man" Christian Broussard? Who Barrack Hussein also called Christopher a few minutes after calling him a "corpse-man"
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
This buffoon of a president doesn't even know how to pronounce corpsman.
Thank God he didn't have to say Colonel. You know he would have said sometining stupid like "Colon-el Broussard".
You can't make this stuff up. How can you people even try to defend this embarrassment to America, let alone its military.
"She thinks she's busy now?! As President, she would be far busier and far more stressed. Imagine the 'gaffes' she could make when trying to negotiate with Russia or speak in front of the G8. She's not polished enough nor experienced enough to be what was once called "The Leader of the Free World"."
Wow. There's a person who really should be careful what they post. To say that a candidate is not experienced enough, when your Obama was a complete rookie, and has shown it constantly during his failed presidency, is a mistake. It calls attention to the total lack of experience that BHO had. And, as for making errors before the G8, it's easy to handle those situations. Just bow before any Muslim leaders nearby, blame America for everything bad in the world, and go on another vacation, right after telling us we have too much unemployment and that he is going to come out with an idea of how to fix it (an idea that no one in either party will support).
lynseypug
Imagine the 'gaffes' she could make when trying to negotiate with Russia or speak in front of the G8.
You mean the G8/G20 that has summarily laughed him off the stage the last 2 years as he continues his adolescent deficit spending nonsense? The same G8/G20 that had people leaving during his closing remarks as the world realizes that Keynesian economics are useless Liberal Progressive tools? You mean Germany's Merkel and Franc's Sarkozy of the G8/G20 who are requiring that the Euro currency nations create a balanced budget amendment?
Hmmmmm, didn't the Republicans propose a Cut, Cap and Balance plan to the Liberal Progressives and the Alzheimer ridden Hairy Reed declared it "tabled" without ever reading, debating or amending it?
You liberal Progressives are so cute when you desperately and irrationally try to defend this not-ready-for-prime-time imposter.
Hey feisty, Why is Grover Norquist calling for members of the "super committee" that have signed his pledge to resign from the committee? He is threatening to expose them as LIARS if they vote raise revenues in ANY way!
One Republican member, Tom Coburn has already resigned!
wtf?
Is Grover trying to clear the way for the committee to raise taxes?
Why are politicians such puppets to Grover?
Or are they going to pull the old "I didn't vote for that" next election.
Stay the course!
(Source: story seeded by me and grover's web site.)
"i can see the soviet union"--bachmann
Oh wow,six speeches causes a circuit overload in her head? I wonder does Bachmann mean this as an alibi, or an excuse? Either way she proves not suited for the 24/7 job she seeks. At the highest level of goverment, one mistake is all it takes to set the world ablaze!
I'm sure her supporters will give Bachmann a pass though,point their fingers at others,and continue to 'moo' in awe at this shyster. But then again, they are Teabaggers; where up is down,dark is light and wrong is right! They want their country back to the level that they are comfortable with, which is the predicament we now find ourselves. After all, misery loves company.
The Teabaggers remind me of that old movie with Jack Nicholson "ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST": where the patients took over the mental hospital. They, like most in-need people,see the problem as EVERYBODY... else!!! Where the solutions are as simple as getting the rest of the word to see things... their way. THIS IS FRIGHTENING...koo koo,koo koo
Why doesn't she just do what all the other right wing wack jobs do and blame it on the "MAINSTREAM LIBERAL MEDIA??????"
@markmich - referring to the President as Hussein, Barry, Soetero, etc is akin to putting on a dunce cap and a big red clown nose. Hope that;s the effect you were trying for.
@franklytrue, I thought it was "I can see the shot heard around the world from here" doh x)
Campaign says she simply misspoke about Elvis, twice? in three words? "celebrate his birthday"... what a joke. Did she mean to say celebrate his death or moarn his birthday? Sadly her mind is so confused with falsehoods she can't adlib without gaffes. As is the entire far right leadership, remember Kyl on the Senate floor taking about Planned Parenthood yet another misspoke(not) actually Huge LIE.
This has nothing to do about their speeches and the pledges they sign. It's All about not allowing a mixed-american democrat the chance to make the U.S.A. a better place. The same lobbying profiteers that had/made Bush as/a puppet for 8 years.
@Idj "Cuckoo's Nest" Brilliant!!!
Another truly pathetic article from the "journalists" at First Read. I am convinced they give out journalism degrees as a consolation prize to the druggies who spent their college years partying and activating.
Equally pathetic are the Obots on this site who criticize this non-issue but bristle and make excuses when it is correctly pointed out that their messiah, the Big O himself, has also made gaffes. One could run his gaffes for hours.
Here's a taste of the Big O's inability to "walk and chew gum at the same time".
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama-isms.htm
The left puts their hypocrisy and lunacy on display more and more as D-Day approaches for their savior. It makes me wonder how many suicides will occur when he is defeated.
lynseypug..."She'll be far more busy as President...."is a laugh. Gosh, as President and if she follows Obama's example she can spend a whole lot of time playing golf, being pampered at posh resorts, rest up in the the most expensive digs all around the world, rely on writers and a teleprompter, depend on Hillary to do all the heavy lifting, and Nancy and Harry to tell her what to do next and what to think.
Bachman, Palin, O'Donnel, Angle. All women my three daughters and I are ashamed of. It's not just simple gaffes. It's just plain ignorance and not knowing your basics. They are supposed to be educated women so, I would say they are a perfect example of our horrible education system and a horrible example of not knowing your information when you are running for office. Study up girls and quit embarrassing yourselves. It's like watching a goofy sitcom.
Forget the Birth Certificate. I want to see a report that she is mentally competent for the job. Not!
You have to remember Sammy, she's too daft to even find her magical teleprompter!
Who can forget her rebuttal to the SOTU address...
Talk about wondering *eyes* lol
Let's take a walk down memory lane, shall we?
The democrat/progressive/liberal march continues against all things conservative and republican. You guys are standing in a sewer line saying the republicans stink. Take a deep breath... love that aroma? You must! The crap you spew out haunts the very party of your choice.
Gaffes - what a HUGE deal! A whole article on Bachman's gaffes... well, between Obama and Biden's gaffes, one could write a book. Imagine that... the smartest man in the room can make a gaffe and you democrats defend it. Hypocrites, one and all! Not only do you squawk about Bachman's gaffes, you add all your favorite little one liners... how classy you democrats appear... to each other... since none of you have any skin in the game whether or not Bachman will be the nominee.
It's the peanut gallery, tossing shells at a glass wall, and you don't even realize it. That's exactly how dumb your remarks are. You can play up to your own kind all you like... none of what you say matters. It's the same ol same ol from the enlightened party of stupid.
Brianb, I agree that these gaffes are ridiculous and are just simple fodder used by Bachmann's opponents from both parties.
What should bother you... it bothers me and others that are considered "centrists"... are the comments she makes that are NOT gaffes... her attitude on gays... on the debt ceiling... on immigration... her pure hate for Obama vs the issues... her extremism.
Other than everything, she's perfect!
Oooops Obama:
Last May, he claimed that tornadoes in Kansas killed a whopping 10,000 people: “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” The actual death toll: 12
in Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States: “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”
in front of a roaring Sioux Falls, S.D., audience, Obama exulted: “Thank you, Sioux City. … I said it wrong. I’ve been in Iowa for too long. I’m sorry.”
“Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?
on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Ala., he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement: “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.” Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965. His spokesman, Bill Burton, later explained that Obama was “speaking metaphorically about the civil-rights movement as a whole.” In otherwords, Bill Burton was cleaning up after Obama.
Obama showed off his knowledge of the war in Afghanistan by homing in on a lack of translators: “We only have a certain number of them, and if they are all in Iraq, then it’s harder for us to use them in Afghanistan.” The real reason it’s “harder for us to use them” in Afghanistan: Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish. The Afghanis speak Pashto, Farsi, or other non-Arabic languages.
Obama pleaded ignorance of the decades-old, multibillion-dollar massive Hanford nuclear-waste cleanup: “Here’s something that you will rarely hear from a politician, and that is that I’m not familiar with the Hanford, uuuuhh, site, so I don’t know exactly what’s going on there. (Applause.) Now, having said that, I promise you I’ll learn about it by the time I leave here on the ride back to the airport.” I assume on that ride, a staffer reminded him that he’s voted on at least one defense-authorization bill that addressed the “costs, schedules, and technical issues” dealing with the nation’s most contaminated nuclear-waste site.
And in perhaps the most seriously troubling set of gaffes of them all, Obama told a Portland crowd that Iran doesn’t “pose a serious threat to us” — cluelessly arguing that “tiny countries” with small defense budgets can’t do us harm — and then promptly flip-flopped the next day, claiming, “I’ve made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave.”
All this from the smartest man in the room. It seems as though Obama has too much on his plate and can't handle speaking in front of a crowd without the use of his handy danday teleprompter. And you moronic democrats think you have the handle on insults to a woman that makes gaffes while your president is just as stupid when he speaks in front of a crowd.
Ooops is right!
Appears someone is fibbing about having carrot top in drag on his 'ignore author' list...
LMAO@BB!
PS: This particular Bushism is the scariest of all...
LMarcT said: What should bother you... it bothers me and others that are considered "centrists"... are the comments she makes that are NOT gaffes... her attitude on gays... on the debt ceiling... on immigration... her pure hate for Obama vs the issues... her extremism.
I won't defend Bachman on her views. I understand them, and I share some of those very same views. Certain elements of socialism and progressivism have creeped into our society and our government. To me, those elements are poision. They don't serve any purpose to improve society, they exist to disrupt.
When a candidate is against those elements, they can't help but express their opinions on the very things they are running against... so it appears radical to those who have totally accepted the very elements that are harming this country. When you break it down, Bachman is actually running against the flow of status quo. She's demonized for it. There is no understanding from the progressives on her views because they have accepted the negative elements as good. Diametrically they view her as stupid, narrow minded, and ignorant because she doesn't accept the same things progressives have.
What it boils down to is the difference in ideology. Progressives feel they are the only right ones in the mix. When someone opposes those views, this is what happens... demonization.
Carrot top in drag - you are on ignore... but every once and a while, I peek into that warped mind of yours. I'm searching for some hope that you will show sanity... alas, none to be found yet.
And - if you have me on ignore, I see that you peek too. Obviously you are concerned about what I have to say... no doubt it's because you are worried that I am talking about you. No fear... I know who you are and what you stand for. If I have something to say about you, I'll say it regardless if you look or not. Insignificance is easy to ridicule... like shooting fish in a barrel.
Oh NO!
You are quickly becoming one of the best fiction writers here @ First Read...
A bit more practice and you'll graduate to the JoAnna Smith1, NJ nut job & Bob lots of numbers league!
You remind me of my beloved *popcorn* - a nutty little kernal until you *pop* from all the hot air you spout!
I myself plan on visiting the country of Africa soon.
Carrot top in drag said:
Oh NO!
You are quickly becoming one of the best fiction writers here @ First Read...
Let me define fiction for you: Fiction - false, made up, an element of the imagination.
If it's fiction, then how did you gather my words Fiesty? Do you have some magical type of computer with ignore, ignore? Obviously you are lying. Don't you understand that you, as a liar will be caught everytime? If you lie about little things, you also lie about big things. This is exactly why you have zero credibility. You never dispute the things I say with rational arguments, you only ridicule them. This is your nature.
Personally I think you don't have any working thoughts of your own. You regurgitate liberal talking points aimlessly. There is NO discussion with you... your sole purpose is to demonize anyone that disagrees with you. You are the perfect example of a person who can't express themselves with one rational thought. And you wonder why the conservatives find you to be a circus act. Search inward Fiesty.... develop those cognitive skills... You might even enjoy an honest discussion from time to time... But first, you have to open your mind a bit... Maybe a can opener will do the trick.
Like I said BB;
Keep practicing you still have a ways to go... ;o)
Really?
This coming from someone who wrote:
Nice to see you waste precious time of yours on somone who you claim has zero credibiity?
Still LMAO@U BB!
Got to run the *popcorn* is done and so are YOU!
Just like a typical liberal Feisty.... got to run when the heat gets turned up. I don't mind being done... That means you can't come up with anything rational to say, but why doesn't that surprise me? Actually nothing you do surprises me anymore. Fish in a barrel, fish in a barrel.
Brianb describing your particular experience and opinion of Fiesty's posts as typical of all liberals responses, weakens your case and probably will not help to invite the type of civil, rational, and honest discussions you describe.
Why would I?
According to your own words I have zero crediblity... Surely you remember?
Gotta run -I'm off to find a can opener...
Forrest - defining typical is pretty easy on this board. You are atypical; not in the same league as Feisty and her crew. The typical liberal, in feisty's case is one that only ever attacks without open discussion. Their definition of discussion is... you believe it my way, or I will call you names or tell you to STFU.
I know several very reasonable left leaning people on this board... You, Anna Molly and Ira are pretty much always open to discussion... there are no name calling techinques with you guys because your minds are open and you have made a conscious decision to discuss things, express your opinions and shed humor into the discussion. Like me, your ideology is under constant construction. Not so much the foundations, but the decora.
OK Feisty Redhead, (no namecalling) Let's attempt a rational discussion to see how far it goes and what each of us can learn, OK? I'm game if you are. If this proves successful, I will never call you CTID again, deal? I'll ask you a question, and you can ask me one. No rules on the question, but only honest opinion. This is not a fact finding mission, it's an opinion discussion. No need to back up your opinion with loads of links... it's strictly opinion. I will answer as openly as I can... as long as you are willing to do the same. Feel free to agree or disagree with my opinion but please be expressive.
Deal? You can agree by asking me the first question. I will respond as honestly as I can. Hell, this might even be fun.
I certainly do not speak for anyone but myself so if I am poking my nose where it does not belong you guys can just say so (like anything would stop either of you!) but there has been a tit for tat exchange between both of you, you guys don't really don't ignore each other you both still want to communicate back and forth, and finally that last thing Fiesty said: "Gotta run -I'm off to find a can opener" was pretty funny but could also be seen as a small olive branch extended to restart a more civil approach by both of you towards each other. I just thought I would throw my two cents in, and try to help you guys negotiate a more productive working agreement between yourselves.
Well damn Brianb I was two minutes late with my post, you are a step ahead of me. It is your turn Fiesty, you took a little step then Brianb took a step and now the next thing you say will make or break these negoiations. You both are doing great at something that is not easy. Keep it going!
The can opener remark was funny. I am really very curious as to if a bridge can be developed. If not a bridge, at least a log across the stream. If this can develop, who knows what might happen on these boards... they might implode with a great explosion. Just imagine... people with different ideologies actually discussing them... MY GOSH, what a concept! Wait... that's already happening here... LOL!
Actually...some very strange things are happening lately. It used to be where LMarcT and I were in constant battle... but lately, the discussions have been pretty civil. Da Noid and I have had some open non-name calling back and forths. NorthstarDFL is just a sweetie, no matter what her ideology is. Not sure if some people are recognizing that it's not just the other guys fault... as has been the mantra for the past couple of years. Maybe, just maybe people are recognizing that we are in this together... and instead of battling, it's more productive to find common ground and build on it.
I would now like to ask BrianB to lead us liberals in a few bars of Kumbayah! Ha just kidding pal, we will give you a few more weeks, but call us immediately if your heart starts bleeding!
Why put Feisty on ignore? Her idiocy is the stuff of legend and hilarious!
Careful there Forrest... you'll bring back memories of summer camp when I was a youth. I have a hard enough time trying to remember yesterday... can't exercise my brain that much in one day. The campfires, the summer loves and lusts... the lake, boating.... NOW YOU"VE DONE IT!!! LOL
Because Doug, now that's she on there... I don't know how to get her off... LOL!!!
The president is also leader of the free world, representing the American people all around the world, with a busy speaking schedule all the time for all the world to see. This is your trial run Bachmann, and you are failing at it.
Ponder this Doug, the more certain posters are ignored, the less interested they are in this forum -- Because for certain posters, it's more about ego than sharing view points. We know who those folks are, and it's not Feisty. Feisty doesn't tolerate bullying and shouldn't, but she also posts a lot of substantive and factual information.
Yes she does and Doug likes to push a few buttons now and then, so do I, we all do, there is room for everything, even some facts now and then.
I guess on the days that Feisty posts "a lot of substantive and factual information" are the ones I miss. Mostly what I see are the left talking point bs which does nothing but dumb down the conversation.
But I'll take your word on it Truepatriot.
Absolutely correct Forrest....in my next life I hope to achieve Chief button pusher.
I do appreciate everyone's contribution....it takes a village.
LMAO!
Sounds like a personal problem to me... lol
It's meant as a joke - okay! ;o)
Sorry but that fruit was TOO ripe NOT to pick...
I appreciate the civility as this thread progressed and look forward of more of these type of exchanges in the future...
@Doug - if you don't like what I write - DON'T READ IT! I don't see anyone twisting your arm...
'if you don't like what I write - DON'T READ IT! I don't see anyone twisting your arm...'
Truer words I thought I'd never see, and from Feisty, the very queen of the feigned ignore button, no less.
Sunday, who know?
slip ups happen. to some more often than others.
Feisty! You're a married woman... but you're right, that was a perfect set up line. It's hard to leave a good line laying around untouched. Funny thing... I caught it after I posted it. Was wondering if it was going to be taken advantage of. You didn't disappoint. (smile)
Wow, I was looking forward to Feisty's question. Brianb, at least you tried and hey its still early, she might surprise you.
If not, everything she fears, just might be true.
How about Libya? Hopefully, the Libyan people will finally see an end to this man's terror.
One step at at a time thetotas. Progress was made today. Doors were opened that have been closed and that's always a good thing. My offer is a standing offer for her. Anytime she wants to pose a question and is looking for a straight answer from me... I will be more than happy to answer it. It might take some time... I'll be civil towards her. Ya getting this Feisty? bridge building takes more than one set of hands. Lets build together towards common grounds. They do exist.
And I'm still LMAO over it! Priceless! ;o))
Sweetie - the best advice I can give you is -- take two Xanox honey and get back to us -- YOU are so far OUT ofyour league you wouldn't be able to find your way back with a map, flashlight and BOTH hands on your ass honey...
You remind me of a tickv-- Totas - all bark and ZERO bite...
Someday you may rise out from rookie status -- until then... just keep re-posting your same old worn out tired crap -- k?
You're a ignorant, snippy old broad who take pot shots from the cheap seats...
Oh, and ONE more thing Totas - for the love of God - will YOU please quit trolling me?
It's not becoming for you OR me for that matter... Deal?
All anyone has to do is click onto your history and THEY will see the ONLY thing YOU ever bring to this forum is your Feisty Redhead obsession...
First RULE of debate is YOU can't cut & run like your history proves....
I am rather sorry for Bachmann. Everything seemed to be going so well for her. She won the Ames straw pole. Then here comes a Texas wadie riding a stolen mule and pffft. Someone needs to tell her to go on home and lie down. She appears to need the rest. Bless her "pea picking" heart.
I understand your viewpoint, I just couldn't resist.
"the red button means WHAT?, oopsie".
Sound like a deal to me! ;o)
WTF does she think it's going to be like if she's the president (threw up in my mouth a little when writing this)?
Thank you Feisty and Brianb, what you both have done is not easy, especially in a public forum, but if we can not find some common ground once in awhile, why should we expect our elected offcials to.
These are mostly Bachmann friendly crowds, wait until she appears in an open forum and takes random questions thats when the wheels will really come off.
Dear Michelle, the problem with your ridiculous answer is this: Your schedule will not become less hectic should you ever become president. Frankly I think I speak for many when I say I don't want somebody who can't get things straight because of the pressures of his/her hectic schedule to have their finger on the proverbial -- and also very real -- button.
Bachmann's endless crazy gaffes are the result of her being an extrovert who speaks before she thinks.
Tehehehe, Bachmann is just another Palin on speed, she is addicted to it and visine, you can see it in her eyes. I think Tina Fey could do Bachmann as good as Palin. Where in the world do the pubes come up with these wild eyed women?
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we are glad to know Gaffs dont happen. Obama really does think we have 57 states..
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HAHA, Obama is planning on making the middle eastern countries more states. We give them money anyways. would be cheaper to bring on in.
HAHAHAHA, Bachmann can pray my gay away, yeah that will work. Again where do the pubes get these women that think praying the gay away will work. Like my mom never try. Good Luck.
When is it OK for men to take it up the arse? When Congress does it. See i haven't wasn't my time being gay. It don't hurt no more.
I think Congress is pitching and the American worker is catching Glen.
They have jobs, good jobs, $175,000 a year Cadillac Health and Dental insurance, about 20 weeks paid vacation each year, a fully vested lifetime pension for 5 years work, a membership to a private gym and much more. The deal they get makes any union contract look damn shabby. Lets see if they can turn loose of some cash for a jobs bill, so we can pay some taxes (because their big donors sure don't) so they don't have to take a cut in pay, like the poor bastards that pay their tab.
Look behind you Forrest, you're catching it too. We are all getting it from the circus we call DC.
Ow stop that! Congress!
Bachmann thinks? Do you have any evidence of that?
You forgot to mention that she's from Waterloo, Iowa...the home of John Wayne...John Wayne Gacy, that is.
Yep, she charming. I think shes on something. She sure looks like she is with those eyes. I want to say she's on some meth. maybe even has a little meth. lab in the bus. If its not meth then it has to be crack cocaine. I bet she just stocked up on that stuff and said ok, lets go on tour. Oh yeah, she's cranking alright.
She'd have to be to stay married to that gay buffoon, not to mention all the foster kids. No wonder she gets "migraines".
The libs showed just how gullible they are when they put an empty suit in the Oval Office, and just continue to confirm their gullibility when they believe every piece of nonsense someone in their pen dreams up and blows out of proportion with hyperbole and imagination. But then, they do have a propensity to buy into B.S.
That's probably true but Obama would not be in office if the wing nut right hadn't put a Dope like Bush in office. I don't agree with Democrats on much but I hate ignorant moron wing nuts. They give conservatives a bad name.
So XMarine - you think Al Gore would have done a better job with 911? Are you of the opinion that the man who claims the earth has a temperature (what a maroon), would have been able to calm the nation, get business back to order in a very short time? The same raging Al Gore that does NOT know how to control his emotions would have been a stablizing force 10 years ago? I don't think so...
In the case of Bachman, it is garbage in and garbage out. What ever comes out of her pie hole is simply that. No substance, no foundation, no meaning...simply.....me....me out in your face so you will vote for me. Yeah...sure....count on it. What a waste of time.
Aggie he was elected in an electoral landslide, it was not just libs that voted for him. The country did not like what happened under the Republican president, they now like the republican house even less. Obama could be beat in the next election but not by any of the current republican candidates, who campaign as G. Bush turned up a few notches, the country is done with that and the freshman republicans and some republican governors made sure of that. Republicans are being recalled from traditionaly republican districts and republican candidates are calling for more of the same policies that are causing the recalls. If republicans don't find a more moderate stance they don't stand a chance of winning the oval office and will lose house members in droves. Where are the jobs Boehner?, aside from painting some new names on federal buildings the republican house renigged on their promise to do what the democrats did not and believe me people are not even waiting for the next election to make some pay a price. No democrats were recalled.
I don't think Gore would have taken us into Iraq, and that is exactly where and when I lot of our current woes stem from.
Forrest - The republicans you are speaking of are in state politics. Local politics are a lot different than national politics. In WI, a highly unionized state, the governor did go a little bit overboard in his insistance to stop collective bargaining. If he would have toned it down and not enraged the unions, none of this would be happening. He overestimated his authority and popularity by his insistance to stop collective bargaining. He never took into consideration that collective bargaining is only a tool to be used in moderation and in times where no other means can be utilized. You know my opinion on unions, but I do understand the importance of collective bargaining when it comes to hard nosed opponents.
Nationally, the republicans are definitely being non-proactive. I am totally amazed at their approach because in the long run, it will harm them and they are appearing like they don't even realize it. If they lose in 2012, it will be the leadership's fault. Nobody said the republicans were smart. In fact, for the most part, they seem clueless when it comes to getting what they need.
I don't think Gore would have taken us into Iraq either... but considering the flower power attitude he had, I shudder to think where we'd be today if he won. Personally, I think we would have been just as divided as we are now... given the nature of 911 and what his response would have been. I feel Gore is clueless but a lot more ruthless than Bush was. We could speculate all day long on where we'd be now given the scope of things that happened in late 2001.
Yes it is speculation as to what Gore might have done, and I agree the Republicans look clueless the American people gave them the ball, the American people!, not corporations not Grover Norquest, or the Chamber of Commerce, they wanted action, they bailed out everybody that was to big to fail, they thought it was their turn for some action that would make a positive difference in their personal lives (like a job). Too big to fail became too rich to be poor, and the general population was told the US has to renig on SS and possibly the payment on our debts, but we can still afford subsidies for big oil and a 15% tax rate for the fund managers that we bailed out. Argue the numbers all you want that is what it feels like politically for the average Joe. If republicans can't get something done to help these people instead of putting more downward pressure on their income they will pay the price at the state and federal level. If WI state politics don't mean much why in the hell do republicans let Ames Iowa have such influence in picking their national candidate.
One important thing about unions, you say the governors enraged the unions, you should have said the union members. Unions are not an entity, they are not a political party, I am not sure how to say what I am getting at but people have to realize that the big bad unions, they are people, many individuals, they are dry wall hangers, teachers, truck drivers, bricklayers, and on and on. When you say they enraged the unions what that means is that they enraged many individual people who have lived and worked, paid taxes, and spent their money in WI all their lives. The unions are not some mythical opponent or a few "bosses" they are thousands of hardworking American citizens trying to make a decent living so they can pay their own way and support America. If any body is interested every union meeting starts with the pledge of allegiance, they love this country, they just don't appreciate being taken advantage of by it.
Forrest - nobody appreciates being taken advantage of. I wholeheartedly agree that subsidies should be eliminated. I don't know why they exist for big oil in the first place. They've been around for years and since oil is a commodity, there really is no chance of big oil going bust. I need to stress that the democrats had the opportunity to eliminate them between 2009 and 2010. This leads me to believe that it's not only the republicans that want them in place. The democrats didn't even try to change the tax law except to extend the Bush tax cuts.
I don't understand the republicans. They had a golden opportunity to push their job agenda (if they even had one in the first place) but the only thing I can reckon is they felt the Senate would block whatever they attempted, or if they did succeed, they were afraid that Obama would take all the glory if it was successful. Either way, they could have taken advantage of it... and it would be good for America. I think they are blinded by trying to get Obama out of the White House... and if they'd stop trying to do it, Obama would eliminate himself by his own merits. We both know he can't run on accomplishments... so he is going to have to run on demonization. That's his only strategy.
Da Noid,
"You forgot to mention that she's from Waterloo, Iowa...the home of John Wayne...John Wayne Gacy, that is."
She was born ONLY in Waterloo. She grew up in Cedar Falls. Waterloo was an industrial city of 80-90,000. Dirty, smelly, and more than a little rough arough the edges. Cedar Falls was a college town of 20,000, 12-15 miles to the WNW. Fairly clean, clear air and the only roughness was the adolescent behavior of the teachers-in-training (the college was Iowa Teacher's College, now University of Northern Iowa). She lived there until 6-7th grade, when her mother moved to Anoka, Minnesota. Anoka could best be described as rural county seat type town (banks, stores and coops).
Had she lived in Waterloo, she would have been treated to the wonders of a decent education, delivered by over-worked teachers in over-crowded schools. My graduating class at West High School had 900 students, it was the smallest of the three years served by a school designed for 11-1200 students total. It still had mechanical arts training (machine shop), auto shop training, big city quality football teams, World Class wrestling program, and was named the best high school in the country. Seven National Merit Scholar finalists in my class. And yes, it taught evolution, statistics and probability, calculus, and a full year of American history, including local native peoples.
Well I do believe they are obsessed with getting Obama out they said precisely that immediately after he was elected. They don't want him to be successful but by "him" that effectively means the USA, that is the insane part, that is the difference between politics and governing. I literally tell my union brothers and sisters go out and work hard for your employer so you can have a share of his success, if not you will get a share of his failure. Why can't the republican controlled legislature understand that if they are not willing to share the success the only thing left is to share the failure. People can say it all they want but the president is not a king and he can not pass a single law, budget, tax policy, or many of the things people would like to blame on him, it was the same with GW Bush, a lot of goofy democrats in Congress went right along with the game plan, they had to, because Bush had no more or less power than Obama has, to put his policies in action through legislation in the Congress. You saw who got punished last election cycle the Congress got punished, next time you will see many in Congress punished again because that is where the real blame lies, they control the purse strings and almost everything else. When people are happy they keep their seats when people are not they get the heave ho, and people are not happy, the stock market is not happy, nobody is happy it seems. The scorched earth strategy that worked for them when democrats had the most incumbents, it will work as well against them now that they control the house, because as of yet they share in nothing but failure. If they don't play ball with the president on his jobs bill they will have completely cut their own throats.
It is a shame that a town is less known for the hard work and success of its residents, and the first class local government services and jobs that they evidently provide for themselves, than it is known because a mass murderer, and a sick maniac both happened to be born there.
Forrest,
What few people recognize, even many in Waterloo, is that the modern agricultural tractor was actually invented in Waterloo. Deere and Co, purchased Waterloo Boy and its manufacturer, and rebranded the product. Deere provided the capital to allow those former Waterloo boy designers, mechanics and engineers to develop what we now see as the relatively compact row-crop traction machines. Compare them to the steam behemoths of the 1870-1910 period. To Deere's great credit, Deere developed a test farm in the late 1950-60's to test both tractors and implements in Iowa, between Waterloo and Cedar Falls, and (to the best of my knowledge) to farm is still in use.
Rath Packing Company was once the largest meat packer operating under one roof in the world. Pork, sheep and a limited amount of beef made a one-way trip to American tables on the SE shore of the Cedar River. Although it had limited receiving railroad sidings, most animals arrived by truck, were held for less than 1-2 days and butchered on a line extending over two miles. For many years Rath was the premium supplier of both bacon and cured hams in America. As late as 2007, I laid eyes on Rath's hav curing building, a squat, mostly windowless buliding occupying 450-600 feet by about 100+ feet with hand trundle tracks serving the back.
Other industries made defence products (Chamberlin), toolboxes (Waterloo Industries and Craftsman brands), components (Hotchkins and Hedford Bros. Foundry, my first 'real' employer), soft cabs for tractors and many more (in 1969, 119 small manufacturers).
In the 1950's and early 1960's, the air was dense with coal smoke. So much so that kids thought that snow just turned black on the surface like a burnt cornbread. Although steam locomotive were on their way out by the 50's a few remained. I was impressed by how quiet they were as opposed to the loud and very smoky early diesels. Waterloo's air was improved about 1960 by the installation of natural gas lines, replacing coal stokers. But the rendering tanks at Rath could still choke a maggot at 2+ miles (I know from personal experience). When central air conditioning became readily availble, it was almost universally adopted in Waterloo.
I was last there in 2008 to visit my brother in the hospital on the north side of the city. Just getting there was a challenge due to the street patching projects. Once I got to the Logan Avenue, I was appalled at the state of what had been a centerpiece of Waterloo's transit hub. Gravel fill and decomposed paving easily overwhelmed the small patches of good pavement. I had seen pictures of better roads in bombed-out Baghdad and Kabul. Side streets were little better. For Charley's internment in January 2009, we were lucky to be on main streets and privately plowed paths. Side streets, though plowed, still required bullying your way through 2 foot piles of snow and slush. Only about half the siewaks were clear.
40-50 years ago, every sidewalk would be clear. I remember a storm in the early 60's that literally drifted our house in. First priority for Dad and Charley, after going out through windows with shovels, dig out the porches (and doors). Then we all started digging to the sidewalk, and the new garage that held the "snowblower" a new toy that my brother convinced (paid for) dad to buy. Once we got to walkways, and the garage door was dug out, the blower AND someone as a drift collapser took over to clear walks and drives. Waterloo was down ONE day. About 12 years later Ames, Iowa was paralyzed for nearly 5 days by a similar storm. Ames was the "engineering" city. Warerloo was the "doing" city.
Today, you have a choice, either drive south of the city, or drive through it at 40' feet in the air. You have to plan to actually enter Waterloo. And if you do travel in Waterloo. please don't be shocked by by its racism, fenced and barbed wire enclosed schools and housing projects. Something Michelle, nor the press, showed. All were planted 80+ years ago, and replanted regularly; but came to full fruit sometime after 2001.
I was in the grocery business years ago I remember Rath hams, it used to be a fairly unionized little town back when it seen better days, any great community needs plenty of good paying jobs, provided by decent American owners who feel they have a responsibility to the communities, and the nation that allows them the success they enjoy instead of only looking for max profit for the next quarter. Where are these patriotic wealthy job creators? When is corporate America going to do something American for a change. This is what is happening to the American dream because we don't take back our manufacturing from China and we praise American companies who now ruthlessly shop for today's lowest bidder ready to offer the lowest wages and the best land/tax goody grab bag of super bonus prizes any state or community will offer. The American Dream costs money, people need jobs, good paying jobs, if you expect them to pay their own way and raise good kids in good neighborhoods with nice streets and schools and churches it takes money. Where are the jobs Boehner? You ridiculed Democrats for dropping the ball on jobs, you got the ball, and yet not a thing from the republican house to improve the situation. Try letting the house totally block the presidents job bill, after screwing up the debt ceiling increase and crashing the stock market, try it and see how that works out for you and republicans at all levels in the next election cycle.
Forrest,
Thanks for the kind words. Back in the good, really old days, we used to be proud of the idea that we were ahead of Los Angeles (and Hollywood) on the Soviet bomber target list. Waterloo's airport had been extended for the new B-52's.
Pay in Waterloo was good to great. But, Rath Packing's owners had one too many crooks in the family and managed literally to steal themselves into the poorhouse. Deere was good to my family, but I knew I could never work there. Too many connections. Hell, I dreamed about the old assembly plant, in high school. Deere went through a rough stretch in the 1980's.
Young people in America do not have the same opportunities we had, we owe them better than this, we can do better than this, shame on us.
Well, it's a good thing she won't have a busy schedule should she somehow be elected president.
Idiot.
'Moochele Backmon', President wannabe, and consumate TEMPEST IN A TEA-POT. As she wonders why everybody is picking on her. Even going so far as to play the MISOGYONY thingy;alas, Failin Palin.
No ma'am, your stupidity has nothing to do with being female! Lack of common sense is gender neutral. You aspiring 'FLORENCE GUMP" Bachmannn,... you
Here we go again the republican whine .....it's always someone else's fault they say stupid things or the liberal media is nitpicking, blah blah. I guess they don't recognize how stupid and irrational they sound.
No kidding Gingerbread Mamma!
Damn those gotcha journalists...
God forbid ANY of them EVER take an ounce of personal responsibility...
Sadly, the stuck on stupid crowd will NEVER recognize that!
From Thesaurus:
Noun1.gaffe - a socially awkward or tactless act
faux pas, slip, solecism, gaucherie
blooper, blunder, boner, boo-boo, botch, bungle, flub, foul-up, @!$%#up, pratfall, bloomer - an embarrassing mistake
Bachmann, in a nut shell.
Hey Mamma... (you said)
.it's always someone else's fault
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right - like King Obama - he's been saying the same thing going on 3 years now.
All of us should be tired of the blame game - I am.
Bachmann in every case her opinion about a subject outweights the facts. There is no reasoning with tea people like her. When facts and history mean nothing there is no way to win an argument.
Bachmann lives in a fantasy world and if she thinks its Elvis's birthday, she needs no stinkin' facts. When the two worlds of her fantasy and the real world collide, its not her fault, she is just a lifelong fan. Swoop, and off to the next fantasy.
krell, the difference is, it is Bachmann's fault, and it isn't President Obama's fault. Why isn't President Bush out there taking responsibility for his contribution to almost crashing the entire world's economy? You guys are always talking about taking responsibility for your own actions, right?
Gingerbread Mamma - the very height of stupid and irrational is stating that there are 57 states in the USA. You do know who made that statement, right? People in glass houses...
Unfortunately, Bachmann's a light-weight. Why in the world would folks support her...she's week on facts, backing, simply not genuine.
She's not as dumb as Palin, but she's working on it.
should have said "she's weak"...........got ahead of myself because she "creeps me out"..........
God forbid ANY of them EVER take an ounce of personal responsibility...
You mean like the pathetic excuse of a President laughing about his "shovel ready jobs not being so shovel ready"?
Dimwits fuss about which "John Wayne" she was talking about while our idiot-in-chief earns $30k a month to run a full-time campaign from the first day of his Presidency.
As far as taking responsibility, it seems like our President has quite a bit to explain, as his gaffes included promising jobs that have never materialized, while paying off his banker and Wall St buddies with our money.
Bachman will not be the presidential candidate, but she is a far better American than the current idiot.
Michelle Bachmann says that the reason she makes a lot of mistakes is that she has a lot of speaking engagements. Let's see, the more she talks the more errors she makes. I think she got that one right.
Obama came to power AFTER the world economy crashed in 2008 (and the descent started in 2007 with bears stearn and toxic mortgages). Wow, what kind of revisionist bull are you peddling. He's been paddling up @!$%# creek made by Gosh darn Bush, ever since. Yeah, he's made mistakes, but the crash is certainly not his. Read up about it before spouting.
Musings of Obama: It's probably Bush's fault. And bad luck. And a tsunami across the globe. And Greece. And the Arab Spring (which I tried to take credit for). And the Tea Party caused the economy to fall (even though they didn't exist yet). And the unfunded wars (which I added 1). and a Congress that was so darn partisan (even though I had 2 years of filibuster proof majority - and as for partisan..'I WON!!!")...hmm anyone else left to blame? Oh yeah...fat cats...wall street fat cats (wait, elections coming up, better make nice with them again) and bitter clingers. Joe the Plumber. Doctors. Drug companies. Typical white people (not sure but he said it). Stupid Cambridge Cops. Special Olympics. China (wait - I have to bow to them). People on my "Listening tour" (I didn't say I was the one that was supposed to listen). Let's see, who else can I blame...the Packers? the Olympic Committee when Chicago got shot down in my face? The World Cup when it got shot down in my face? S&P when it downgraded our debt for the first time ever in my face...(my face hurts so much I need ice cream and a walk on elitist Martha's Vineyard...oooh probably some wall street fat cats I can soak there).
After hearing Michelle's response to the gaffes, I'm fully confident in her again. Hurrah!
Now, I'm going to meet with Michelle and her husband to pray away the gays!
Then, those of you who should MAN UP and OWN THE BLAME for what you've done should DO IT. MAN UP and OWN YOUR CRAP.
It would be a great start for Dumbya Bush and the GOP to MAN UP and OWN THE FACT that they dumped this country into a cesspool and left Obama to clean up the mess.
I'm not quite as tired of the Blame Game, as I am tired of the goddam right-wing to never own their crap.
#1
Not all cultures are equal.
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And what a bizarre time we're in, when a judge will say to little children that you can't say the pledge of allegiance, but you must learn that homosexuality is normal and you should try it.
#3
I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat president Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence.
#4
Gay marriage is probably the biggest issue that will impact our state and our nation in the last, at least thirty years. I am not under-stating that.
#5
A woman was healthy. There was brain damage, there was no question. But from a health point of view, she was not terminally ill.
#6
Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn't even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is harmful gas.
#7
Normalization of gayness through desensitization. Very effective way to do this with a bunch of second graders, is take a picture of "The Lion King" for instance, and a teacher might say, "do you know that the music for this movie was written by a gay man?" The message is: I'm better at what I do, because I'm gay.
#8
If we took away the minimum wage - if conceivably it was gone, we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.
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I just take the bible for what it is, I guess, and recognize that I am not a scientist, not trained to be a scientist. I'm not a deep thinker on all of this. I wish I was. I wish I was more knowledgeable, but I'm not a scientist.
#10
There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.
When President Obama catches up with just the ten shown above let us know. Until then go back to your windowless basements.
socialist- check
teleprompter = check
57 states = check
messiah = check
kenseyian theory = check
on vacation = check
birth cert = check
Typical tea bagger & Markmich's check list of the same inane talking points they seem fond of parroting back whenever given the opportunity.
vwterry
Your understanding of any science indicates that you are an IGNORANT DIP@!$%#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Poor, poor purnell if you show the nurse this rant she will, I am sure, give you your meds.
Bachmann's migraines are getting the best of her. Bachmann is a American disease.
If you can pray away the gay you should be able to pray away the gaffes as well. Better pray for votes while your at it Michele. Dear God please take the gays, liberals, and democrats away as I know they are not of your creation, because science tells us that you created everything except for them, your faithful servant Michele. Dear Santa I would like a tour bus as nice as Sarah's, and a leather dress - Michele.
Dear Tooth Fairy my name is Michele and I have not lost a tooth since I was 8 years old, but I am getting old now and I am loosing my teeth again. Don't worry though I have got the greatest (5 star!) government provided health care, plus dental coverage so there is a fancy porcelain bridge where my tooth used to be. Ha not like my gaped tooth supporters who do not deserve any coverage because that would be a burden on business and the government isn't that a hoot, but that is a different story, back to my tooth. I am placing my tooth under my pillow (it is the white one, the pink one is my husbands) when I was little I used to charge you quarter but I know you have a business to run so I have lowered the price to 15 cents, so you can hire more tooth fairies.
Ground control to Major Tom, put your mask back on you're suffering oxygen deprivation.
I realize Purnell is just being funny. But was post 3.16 serious VWTerry?
#3.16 all bachmann quotes, not mine
The part of this fake person,i have a hard time understanding, is the people who show up to see and listen to this dumber than a box of rocks nut case ! GET A LIFE WACKOS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bachmann's gaffes stem from her world view, one in which the very concept of a "fact" is irrelevant. Simply put, Michele Bachmann just hates reality. I mean, when the motivation for everything in her life is making other people believe in and obey her imaginary friend, and when she's so deeply invested in a revisionist history of the United States of America, then it hardly makes sense to worry about whether any little bits of comparative trivia are "correct". If she actually took the time to get the little things right, then she might accidentally apply the same standard to her big delusions.
Why do we even comment on "crazy eyes" Bachmann. She's not going anywhere. In the final analysis, would anyone with a modicum of intelligence consider voting for the dingbat even for dogcatcher? 15 minutes of glory.
Freedom of Religion...also means Freedom From Religion.
DO NOT FORGET SLICK PERRY COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DID BACHMANN REALLY SAY THIS? THE UNEMPLOYED AREN'T EATING TOO REGULAR, BUT WE WILL GET AROUND To THEM AS SOON AS WE GET EVERYBODY ELSE FIXED UP.
It could have been any republican saying that...they are all the same
So speaking six times a day causes Michelle to screw up
.....................doesn't sound to me like she could handle the pressure of the office of the President
----------there is going to be a lot tougher days than one with six speaking engagements
-----and what does she do when she is tired and she insults the head of another country or, oh I don't know, pushes the wrong button?
Seems to me Michelle just admitted she is not fit for the office of the President.....
thanks for clearing that up for us Michelle.
DO NOT FORGET SLICK PERRY COMMENTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Nathan
You are so right. When your worldview is a simple black and white vision of I have seen the light, any distinction about current reality, or history is not important. it is not about any detail that might get in her way, like the cold War is over...
It is so hard to imagine that this country could actually entertain the notion of electing a religous wingnut who is critical of everything going on in Washington, but is clearly unable to present a solution for any part of the problem. Oh wait...we already did that ...twice! My bad.
ANYONE but Obama in 2012. ANYONE...
Steve:
That's some real deep political analysis. My fear of the uninformed electorate is hereby validated. Your analysis can only lead to disaster.
Who do you think put Obama into office? The uninformed electorate that was too ignorant to study the issues and make it's own decision rather than doing what the media and Hollywood celebrities told it to do.
scales67,
Just Brilliant! Brilliant I say! Oh yes, It was an extremely difficult choice between Obama and John McCain's running mate Sara, I can see Russia from my porch, Palin and President Obama. Yea, real difficult choice, especially after the "Job" George W. Bush put on the electorate for 8 years. Also, real difficult now! Just look at the Tea Party slaves' (Republicans) primary candidates: Bachmann, Perry, Ramney, Huntsman Paul, and of course Cain and Santorum. We need to pick any one of these "10 dollars of cuts for every 1 dollar of taxes" middle of mainstream candidates. Yea, lets not raise the debt ceiling, lets commit economic suicide. Makes it hard to pick when all the nuts in the box look shriveled!
*anyone* but Obama in 2012? Thanks for the astute analysis; glad there was room for you on the TeaBaggin' bandwagon, you slack-jawed mouth breather.( My apologies to slack-jawed mouth breathers everywhere for including Steve L. in your ranks)
Last time Shrub ran I wrote in Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck... THEY WON! Michelle doesn't have a chance - she's idiocy personified (even if she has a law degree from rectal roberts u)
scales: so the "uninformed" are the millions of American voters who just couldn't understand the brilliance of John McCain and Sarah Palin?? Yeah, you keep sticking with that line...LOL!
They thought Palin would be a cute political move to pick up women's votes after Hilary conceded the democratic primary. It looked like it might work they played Palin up real big, then the public got a look at her and that was the end of McCain, there was no other choice after that. You can call the American electorate stupid if you wish but most Americans felt they were personally smarter than Palin, and more importantly they increaseingly felt she was dishonest and uterly vain to boot. Sarah Palin made Obama President as much as any media effect. McCain the old navy hero shot himself right in the foot with that hasty pick, and the funny thing is that republicans keep her out there and she polls worse now than she did then. The sad fact of the matter for Bachmann is that most Americans see her as Sarah Palin's "other sister".
Yep, accountability and statements based on facts and science is what we all rise to everyday in the workplace in the 21st century global economy. If you don't value the truth over your hair, make up, and outfit then you are confusing running for the Presidency with a beauty pageant. The "question" portion carries more points than the gown, bathing suit, creationism, and bullying gay children.
did bachmann really say this? the unemployed aren't eating too regular these days but we will get around to them as soon as we get every body else fixed up...
Bachmann and Palin both should go home ! Both talk with a foot in thier mouth , just as prez B.O. does !
If she's this lost just running for office what will we suffer at her hands in the real world? Sorry there lady but if you're stuttering your way through this minefield of your own kind what will you do when the democrats start throwing real issues in front of you or worse yet, an enemy of our nation hellbent on our destruction?
She will always answer the question she wishes had been asked.
just think - she could be the "no comment" person. ANY question - "NO COMMENT!"
'I'm so happy to be celebrating the birth of Our Lord with you folks today. This is the best September 4th I can remember in such a long time.'
Fancy That
A perfect response since NO ONE knows when Jesus was born or died................................
Why, I have never ever picked a nit! If I were to pick one, I certainly would choose a nit worthy of picking. Now, of all the nits that need picking I do have a right many from which to choose. Not that all the nits deserving of being picked are dirty. Nits are easier to see to pick if they are but we wouldn't treat them dirty nit-wits from these parts , worthy or not, too nice.
Ad nauseum...ad nauseum...never a missing beat and someone falls for it every 10 seconds they say down here.
the rumor mills are running on over time around Austin now. Just goolgle you can find out about perry and alledged man fairs. Alledgedly there's one with a rep. from the Texas House of Rep.
20th day over 100 and no rain in sight rick. maybe you should have stuck to the prayer CLOSET INSTEAD. I'm afraid we're being punished for your sins like the shady land deals where you bought from friends and sold at substantially higher prices(alledgedly), like cutting an education budget by 4.2 billion causing districts to lay off thousands of 1st and 2nd year teachers just starting out. to my conservative brethren, remember perry ran gore's 1998 presidential campaing in Texas. can you really stomach that?
do you really want bachman or perry? geez, even reagan,nixon or ike would be too liberal for you guys today.
combine medicare,medicaid,and va... give all Americans what congress has... affordable healthcare.
jj, if you're there, what local did you work out of? I was out of boilermaker 74 for 20 years biefore my muscle and nerve dsmage started.
She is like a perry & sooooo many other gop. They say whatever they need to get elected. And if elected they will do whatever they want. You elected them to make all these misteaks. Sort of like i told you it was the soviets that we were attacking just like i promised.
They are all puppets of mr grover. All having signed secret binding statements of agreement with mr grover. Neither mr grover nor his many pledgees will release a complete listing of those who have made pledges to mr grover or what exactly all the pledges were. They are telling you that mr grover will ultimately decide what will happen to the country. There are soooo many pledges and thousands of the gop who have signed them. What they say to get elected does not matter.
And this is different than Obama in which ways?
I am just wondering, what is Biden's excuse, the "King of Gaffe"! Surprised no one has mentioned him. Come to think of it, has anybody seen that guy lately? I never hear any news or anything about him. Seems like I remember people suggesting he had gone off radar because the admin was terrified he would put his foot in his mouth yet again, and again, and again....
Shows how much you watch news other than watching Faux News. He has been in China trying to calm them down after your Republican Congress and Senate members decided to let the country comethisclose to defaulting.
 If you can't handle running for the Office of the President, then you can't handle BEING the President.Â
Are you better off with Obama? Are you honestly better off? The answer is a loud NO! WE ARE NOT! I am becoming very concerned about the direction of our country, the economy is not doing very good! Texas is doing better in spite of the economic crisis, Why? because of their conservative policies, their balanced budget, the hard working people of the state who believe they can make it better, and thanks to the governor who has implemented these efforts, thanks governor Perry, you are an example to many other governors, Vote Perry!!!!
They might have a lower unemployment rate, but a very large percentage of the employed are making less than minimum wage. So it's really like counting all of the fast food employees in the equation...it's just not that accurate. Real jobs will sustain a family with one income.
TellTheTruth: You don't live in Texas do you? Perry thinks it is okay for Texas to give in-state tution to illegals, their educational system is a total failure and their wonderful unemployement level is only because all those jobs are minimum wage, you ever try living on minimum wage. Why don't you stick to something you know?
Texas is doing better because it has oil...period. Even the media has stated that fact.
so we ignore Obama's comment about visiting all 57 states but yet Bachmann can't call Russia the Soviet Union, this is pathetic. First Read is an embarrassment.
TelltheTruth: yes, it's a WONDERFUL governor who demands that state agencies cut their budgets (and accordingly, their services) by at least 5 percent, while allowing the taxpayers to pay almost $600,000 over two years to rent and maintain a five bedroom, seven bath, three dining room house for him. And please don't give me the excuse that the governor's mansion is currently under reconstruction and renovation. Let him live in an apartment and save the state some money.
I know for a fact that this country is in good hands with Obama. Obama's only problem has been with the thickheaded teabaggers. They are ruining our country. Vote them out. They do not care about any of us, just themselves. They are evildooers (there's a word you repubs can understand).
Obama/Biden '12
texas has a balanced buget at the expense of the education system. Briliant! That way people will have to take all the crappy minimum wage jobs that the barons of Texas offer.
VikiC, Let Obama live in an apartment, stay home and go to work like the rest of us, and he could save all of us that much every other day!!!
TellTheTruth-3736461 Where were you between 2000 and 2006 and George Walker Bush destroyed our economy and our country with two unfunded wars, four taxcuts for the wealthy and UNFUNDED mandates? Now your TEA/PUBLICANS are trying their level best to finish the job that was started under the first term of George Walker Bush.
I wish McCain would have won the last election. Then all the moron Republican TeaScumSuckers could blame him. Poor McCain, the only Republican that I can think of that has a brain. He just got old.
Are there any Republicans who are reasonable people any more? Why did they all turn into total idiots?
From what I read recently, Perry is even worse than Bachmann. I didn't know it could get any worse.
Oh, sorry for getting off topic. Yeah, Bachmann needs to go back to elementry school and relearn American history and geography. It sure sounds like campaigning for President really has her head spinning, she is so confused. I hope she never gets to be President. With our luck, she will fire nukes at Canada since it starts with a "C" just like "China". Or, more likely, just because "God told her to".
Bachmann, just wanted to make sure you understood last few comments; you are the dumbest piece of @!$%# to ever try to run for president! The oval office will never be yours!
hey alpha, ask yourself this, are you better today than you were when the self proclaimed messiah was inaugurated 3 years ago?
I know what direction the stench is coming from and it's not coming from Obama. Why does the entire GOP/republican/Tea Bagger party have amnesia?
BUSH RUINED THE ECONOMY!!! Admit it you sick pigs!!!
I am. Sorry if YOU aren't
The question is, are you better than with the republican alternative
and since its undoubtably yes, electing Obama was still the right choice.
Unless the Republican get their act together, it will still a choice between a
bureaucratic incumbent (Obama) and someone who'll talk out their ass to get elected (the
current crop of tea partier). So, the right choice will still be Obama. The
republicans could win if they actually put someone less idiologically right wing
with even an ounce of charisma.
I am better off than I was 3 years ago. I still have the same job and I have received 3 pay increases. I paid off all of my credit cards and closed the accounts. My home probably lost some value, but I don't plan on moving anytime soon. This was not due to the presidents policies, and would have been the same if McCain had won.
Marinmom,
When a liberal has no facts and no real argument to use, why do you always resort to childish namecalling? Really, all it does is make you look bad. No intelligent person reads comments like yours and is swayed toward your point of view.
Maybe Marinmom shouldn't have called the republicans the sick pigs they are. But, it gets mighty tiring have the conservatives on this board call President Obama worse things all day every day as the republicans conveniently forget their part in this so called debt crisis and that we are not allowed to raise taxes on the richest.
Republicans still in office voted for the tax cuts and still kept them in place after starting two wars. Either the republicans are the stupidest fiscal conservatives in the world or don't care at all what kind of debt they put America in.
Either way vote for any republican is a vote to kill America to keep the rich from paying fair taxes.
Obama 2012
Patriot, first of all notice how I got 17 "votes" and you only got two.
The name calling is out of frustration for people who suddenly develop amnesia when it comes to who caused the economic crisis we are in. The fact that you focus on name calling instead of the real issue is a GOP smokescreen similar to alcoholic enablers. You lie, make things up and make excuses for them. Then you look for a convienient target.
A black man.
You are just like a bunch of Susan Smith's, pinning your filthy little crimes on black people.
GOP/Republicans/Tea Baggers you think you can change history and the facts with your pathetic little "Jesus" smokescreens. You can not make something true or untrue just by wishing it so. You pigs caused the economic crisis by voting for a greedy idiot (Bush). If you didn't know what Bush was going to do to this country, you should disqualify yourself from voting because you have your head up your butt.
You make me sick.
Americans First, thank you. I know that the smarter people of this country will eventually prevail.
Dave-981779,
Obviously you don't know what "Self proclaimed" means, LMFAO
Bachmann never seems to know the correct information until people point out ALL of her gaffes. Amazing how many mistakes she makes and yet continues to lie and pretend she knew they were mistakes. I submit to you, if they were never brought to her attention, she would continue to say them over and over. Let's face it, she's a dingbat!
truman, you have a president for lack of a better word, who cannot speak without a telepromter, Bachmann is refreshing, unscripted and genuine
How hard is it to Google John Wayne or Elvis Presley and check your facts? If I were making a speech heard around the entire nation I would check my g*****n facts.
Going back to Reagan, everyone uses tele-prompters. Big Deal! The POTUS' "loyal" opposition just uses it as one of many sticks to chip away his stature. To no avail, except making them look small.
Just think....if he had a narrow and shallow perspective and vission like some other, he could write his thoughts on the palm of his hand.
Man, I've given whole day long seminars without notes and only about 30 slides (which for a day is very few). So, how hard can it be to read about your subject and just riff on it.
How hard is it to prepare before going out. The best off the cuff, actually prepare before they meet the public to make it look easy and seemless (and without errors).
Dave: take a hint: the reason your loopy right wing talking point about the President supposedly being unable to speak for himself doesn't ever work beyond your own wing nut circle, is that it is absurd. This Harvard Magna Cum Laude graduate law professor, who the nation has watched for years speaking off the cuff even if you've somehow missed it, is someone you obviously don't agree with politically. Its just plain ridiculous to paint him as someone who we're supposed to believe is incapable of thought. The endless repeating of your Limbaugh nonsense only serves to paint you as another hysterical partisan who can't debate substance.
AP,
Maybe you should check your facts before lecturing others. Obama has made NUMEROUS errors in his speeches. Without his Teleprompter, he would be a mess. As for graduating Magna Cum Laude from harvard, he got into Harvard only because of his connections and skin color. He was a dunce - really poor grades - in Columbia, before Harvard. Did he suddenly get smart? Nope. He couldn't even write his own memoir. He tried one book, and it was terrible writing. He got Bill Ayers to ghostwrite the second one, when he (Obama) just couldn't get it written. His grades were fraudulent, given to him as has been everything else in his adult life, not because he earned them but because he had connections. He may not be a complete dummy. But he is nowhere near as smart as you think he is. And all of th things I have said here are factual, not opinions. Check your facts before you lecture others, please.
Patroit,
since you have stated your "facts" I'm sure you will be able to supply us your reference material. Afterall I am sure you had them ready before you decided to lecture others.
Thanks we will be waiting..........................and waiting, and waiting
Patriot--Hating President Obama is your right, but you should give us real reasons, not parroted untruths. When you throw out your lies, some other ignorant person will read them, repeat them, and send them around to others to continue to smear the President. The fact that you mention his skin color shows me YOUR true colors. So--how did he fool all of his peers and get elected president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review???
He didn't grow up with much money or connections--he had to work very hard. His grades at Columbia haven't been released, so how do you know that they were poor? Ayers had absoutely nothing to do with writing EITHER of his books, one of which was a personal memoir. The other is about his political stances. I've read both--maybe you should try reading them yourself. In fact, maybe you should try reading FACTUAL sources in peer-reviewed journals, not just blogs or right-wing websites spouting opinions, suspicions, and lies.
And--you know what? I can't stand Perry, but I wish the people posting suspicions about Perry (unsubstantiated allegations) about his sexual orientation would just stop. I wish the people who supposedly are monitoring this site would do a better job.
still waiting Patriot for your "factual" statements and the link to your sources of information. I hope you didn't "lecture" other and reprimand them while making spurious statements. You didn't just make up your facts like Michelle did you?
Lets give it to Bachman, that gaffs do happen, just like the 57 states of the union. Some the things she says anyone in their right mind would catch. Shot heard around the world- thats fifth grade history. Waterloo, John Waynes home town- someone who is doing her research is stupid. Silly little lies, she tries to pass as truth, when talking policy is the problem. Her warm up stuff, is gaffs and poor research- Her policy untruths are important. And Yes, she is a dingbat.
Except that I'd like the leader of the country to know that the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore. That's more than a lack of research.
Like I said, some things you just know, and thats one of them, she was out there talking policy agian.
Wow, Obama has one slip up (and I'm pretty sure he's really embarassed about it) in hundreds of speaches versus Bachman gaffs and bad fact checking in almost all speaches that she will never own up too.
"Obama has one slip up (and I'm pretty sure he's really embarassed about it) in hundreds of speaches" Uhhhh....one slip up? Obama had dozens during the last campaign, but most were covered up by the liberal, in-his-back-pocket media. The fact is that, without his tele-promt-tr, Obama is a blathering fool. He makes mistakes even when using it. The media has attacked Bachmann viciously, while they have looked the other way on all of the slip-ups, outright lies, flip-flops, and other garbage to come out of the mouth of Obama. This is the first president I have ever seen who will lecture us about something we shouldn't do, when, in teh same speech, he had just gotten through doing it himself! The libeal media has created a monster, who thinks he can get away with saying and doing anything. Do some research, you who comment like the quote I started with, above. It isn't hard, if you want to know the truth, to find out that Obama has made some really bad mistakes in his speeches. And that is not to mention the infamous middle finger he gave to Hillary during a speech in the last campaign period. At least Bachmann isn't a bully, a child, or a narcissist, as he is.
Bachmann is just someone whose opinion outweights facts and history. When she defaults our country as she has already stated she would, it is not defaulting because her opinion is that she is against defaulting.
Who wouldn't want those kind of brains running our country?
Bachmann, blame it on George W. Bush and you will get every liberal vote. They will love you!
Thats stupid.
Bachman: blame it on the "left wing" media conspiracy to report what you say instead of what you meant and the right wing nuts will love you for it!
AP,
Does Obama pay you to write this nonsense? Well, you may be losing your paycheck soon, because his latest scandal may be the one that gets the Marxist bully impeached. Usin taxpayers funds to steer Google searches to sites that bragged up his ObamaCare is blatantly illegal and he just may go down over this one....which makes, what, about 20 scandals that he has been caught in so far?
patroit,
you are are soooo like Michelle, just make @!$%# up as you go.................you are hilarious,
A verbal gaffe, here and there is not so bad, it happens to everyone. But the number of gaffes, and the outright misstatements of fact on such a regular basis is indicative of someone not really qualified to be POTUS. The pattern is too regular and the fact that it usually involves historical fact is disturbing. Those who do not know, or ignore history, are bound to repeat it.
Hi Matthew, nice to see you here, we miss your voice...hope all is well.
Exactly...it's the stuff she DOESN'T apologize for saying that has made her the laughingstock of this campaign...
Not repeat history. Man! You are right. We certainly don't want to repeat that terrible mistake you liberals gave us in 2008. America couldn't stand 4 more years of an anti-American, narcissistic, childish idiot, whose every idea is socialistic and destructive. Hey, let's fire some Predator missiles into Indiana, or one of the other 57 states!
I agree,every idea of Obamas is socialistic and destructive. Every single last one. Even the ones the republicans were pushing for years like health reform with an individual mandate. If Obama supports it,it MUST be socialist.
So is that why the republicans are against their own ideals, they just discovered they were socialist ideals.
Republicans hurry and get back to defending the rich. Wouldn't want anyone thinking you would put country before the party of the rich.