Perry sticks to his guns on controversial comments

After nearly a week without taking questions from the press, Gov. Rick Perry stood by controversial comments on global warming and U.S. monetary policy as he took a barrage of questions from reporters at the final event of his South Carolina swing.

He also defended his support of a Texas version of the DREAM act while invoking the 10th Amendment when he said it wouldn't work on a national level.

Perry, who earlier this week accused climate change scientists of manipulating information for financial gain, doubled down on his skepticism that manmade phenomena are affecting the world's climate.

"I just happen to believe that the earth's temperature has been moving up and down for millenniums now and there are enough scientists out there now that are skeptical about the reasons for it," he said. "And I happen to be one of those that are skeptical that for us to spend billions of dollars on a theory that is not proven and that you have skeptical science against that is not in America's best interest."

Asked to respond to a Politico story that quoted members of Congress made nervous by his statement Monday that the actions of Fed chairman Ben Bernanke have been "treasonous," Perry said he is simply "passionate" about the issue.

"I'm sorry if I offended a congressman but the fact of the matter is I'm about representing the American people out here. And the American people are really concerned and scared, small businessmen and women are frightened about the monetary policy or the lack thereof with this administration," he said.

Perry also answered a question from Telemundo's Vanessa Huac on  two immigration-related issues: Texas's version of the DREAM act (Perry allows children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state college tuition but opposes it on a national level) and his policy of allowing police officers to question people on their immigration status, although he said he didn't think Arizona's tough immigration law was right for Texas.

Huac said he had been "contradictory" in his immigration views and asked if he would support comprehensive immigration reform as president.

"Here's what you need to understand about me, please," Perry said. "I am a big believer in the tenth amendment. That state by state they need to make those decisions about how they're going to deal with issues of tuition, whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be and that state.

"The rest of these issues are the same. I happen to believe with all my heart that the states would be best served by being able to be free to make these decisions by themselves. Whether it's... I didn't think that for the state of Texas an Arizona exact law was right for state of Texas. 

"So state by state ought to be the way to do that, not by the federal government one size fits all."

When Huac countered that the Constitution requires the federal government to regulate immigration, Perry said, "I didn't get to that issue, yes. Once we secure the border we can have a conversation about immigration reform in this country. But not until."

The Texas governor's remarks came after a brief meet-and-greet luncheon in Rock Hill, SC, where Perry addressed about 100 people face-to-face at the The Old Town Bistro with an additional 350 crowded into an overflow room.

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Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Karl Rove & the rest of the Teapublican 'handlers' can't seem to reel in Pretty Boy Perry!

Don't you LOVE it when they double down on crazy?

If you thought Bible Spice was a loose canon, wait until the arrogant, ignorant bible banging TX Governor gets warmed up... lol

He's only just begun..

Helpful Hint - make sure you have plenty of *popcorn* handy! ;o)

  • 85 votes
#1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:34 PM EDT

Tough to get those bottom-feeders to come up to the surface.

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#1.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:43 PM EDT

"...whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be and that state."
"Whether it's... I didn't think that for the state of Texas an Arizona exact law was right for state of Texas."

(Rick obviously did not do well in high school English.)

In the Air Force, not being able to rise above the rank of Captain is the mark of shame among your peers.

Do Texans understand the connotation of being referred to as a 'dingle-berry'?

  • 33 votes
#1.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:18 PM EDT

Or is he sticking to his controversy with his guns?

Seriously, those who know Perry will tell you he will not compromise, budge, admit to error, etc. Sound familiar? Stay the course, shoot from the hip, Yosemite Sam, the "decider." In this time of polarization and the Teabaggers enabled by Republicans who see compromise as a dirty, why would anyone want this kind of person in the White House?

  • 49 votes
#1.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:40 PM EDT
Comment author avatarG.C.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

What is wrong with a candidate that reads the bible? At least Perry reads something worth the paper it is written on. I assure you he is not sitting on pins and needles waiting to read your comment. I guess I am crazy because I read the bible, also. Perry has his opinions on global warming that I do not share 100%, there is warming but we do not know the cause or how to reverse it. Science can help understand but not likely to reverse the trend, but time wil tell. I think the dollar is at its weakest in history and it is a result of Bernanke's decisions. He may have went a bit far with act of treason. Perry seems like he has more enthusiasm to fix America's problems than the current Administration combined and I like it whether he ends up the nominee or not. He seems to genuinely care about Americans without jobs and doesn't need a poll to tell him what needs to get done.

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:58 PM EDT

He seems to genuinely care about Americans without jobs and doesn't need a poll to tell him what needs to get done.

Yeah, he cares about you if you're straight, white and christian. The rest of us are out of luck.

I think the dollar is at its weakest in history and it is a result of Bernanke's decisions.

You do realize that there are advantages to having a weak dollar, don't you? Among them is that it makes our exports cheaper and our imports more expensive, helping domestic manufacturing.

  • 47 votes
#1.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:17 PM EDT

Yeah, he cares about you if you're straight, white and christian. The rest of us are out of luck.

Hopefully the majority of America cares about issues OTHER then God - Gays & Guns...

  • 40 votes
#1.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:22 PM EDT

Perry's the perfect example of someone who ignores that old adage...... "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!" He just keeps forgetting that last half of that phrase! Clearly, there's just no cure for "stupid"!!

  • 39 votes
#1.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:27 PM EDT

There have been three TX Presidents in my life. One who spent social security on the Great Society to properly house "negros". One who brought us the Iran Contra affair and the Savings and Loan scandal, and the last who tried to bankrupt the world while fighting the Haliburton War. There is only one North American Government more corrupt than Mexico - and its in Austin. This guy "believes" in God but doesn't "believe" in global warming because both are popular with Big Oil. Just another Texas Tool.

  • 30 votes
#1.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:03 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSteve L.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Keep on keep on with the hope & change, even non-whites & non- christians realize Mr. O is out of his league. One and Done.

  • 8 votes
#1.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:04 PM EDT

You wish.

Until he signs the Norquist pledge to never raise taxes on the richest like all the republicans, he will have my vote.

Obama 2012

  • 29 votes
#1.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:13 PM EDT

Likewise my vote. When a group people enshrine ignorance as a pastime and stupidity as a goal they should never ever be considered for leadership. The world we live in now is one world, every place in connected to every other place and these idiots want to divide the power of the Federal Government and weaken it at a time when we need all the international force we can generate.

  • 24 votes
#1.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:28 PM EDT

Barry

Do you know what else a weak dollar does??? It causes INFLATION. That means the things you buy cost more. Your wages a worth less,your retirement fund is worth less,and you Health Cost cost more. Yep that weak dollar sure does us a lot of good.

  • 8 votes
#1.12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:28 PM EDT

Anyone who believes in the fairy tale called the Bible ought to be locked in a padded room.

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#1.13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:38 PM EDT

Yay Perry! He's totally awesome in a totally not George Bush way! When he's in it he's in it ALLLL THAAA WAAAYE!

This guy is the biggest tool out there. I mean, come on.... Stop it with the Rick Perry show. Al Gore's campaign manager? Forced innoculations of women? Trans-Texas corridor NAFTA Superhighway? If America knew just how corrupt this guy is in Texas I wonder if they'd back him. The evangelical Christians, or as I like to call them, "America's Taliban," are so hypocritical that they'd back this clown? Maybe.

At least we know that Bank of America is ready to use your bailout tax dollars to pump this guy's campaign.

This whole process makes me ashamed to be American. There is no hope people. It's totally over. America the whore. Bought for a few bucks a night and then her people get gangraped by fascist government/corporatists. And then they have the nerve to put this fake chump up there.

Makes me sick

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#1.14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:48 PM EDT

GC, nothing wrong with reading the Bible - unless that's all you read. The Bible is useful for religious guidance and theological discussions, but it isn't very useful for Economics, and is totally useless for matters of Science or Constitutional Law.

  • 24 votes
#1.15 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:52 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDMAC-1004611Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Nothing like the leftwing socialist morons on parade hear who never ever put anything remotely intelligent on here, just a bunch of angry whinebags who don't have the first clue about economics, politics or probably there own screwed up house. TUFF if you liberal idiots don't like it!!!! It sure doesn't work the democrap way and getting worse by the day. Absolute proof of that.

  • 6 votes
#1.16 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:09 PM EDT

I read the Bible - I believe in the Bible - I try to live by the Bible

BUT - The President of The United States should not lead or desire to lead this country according to his beliefs in the Bible. I'm not saying to totally disregard the Bible - Just don't use it as THE guideline for leading this country.

This is the very reason our forefathers were smart enough to write into the constitution The Seperation Of Church and State. You must remember what our forefathers went through when we gained our independence. We had high taxation without proper representation and we Had to belong to THE Church.

Politics has NO place in Church AND Religion has NO place in politics. Surely, our forefathers were more inteligent they some people are today that want to join the two together.

  • 16 votes
#1.17 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT

Well said DMAC.

In the Air Force, not being able to rise above the rank of Captain is the mark of shame among your peers

One would have to be a brain dead simpleton to make such a statement. Or this one:

If America knew just how corrupt this guy is in Texas I wonder if they'd back him.

Enlighten America "Dr Who". Just how corrupt is Perry? Is he half as corrupt as Obama?

  • 4 votes
#1.19 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:25 PM EDT

DMAC, just a little spelling lesson from a moron left winger: that would be here, not hear, and their not there.

  • 8 votes
#1.20 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:42 PM EDT

Why'd you just say that, huh? Another angry Republican who declares how he don't care, he's gonna piss on the floor and light his bed on fire even if you guys don't like it! So there!

Like a few other posters I'm getting embarrassed by what passes for politics 2011. America is the laughing stock of the world. We just had the 2001-2008 previous Texas roundup that left the country broke and near a Depression.

You couldn't gather a bigger bunch of "cartoons' than the current crop of GOP candydates. Bachmann, Perry, Romney, Paul, Santorum, Cain and there's always Palin searching for a camera.

The only sentient adult is Huntsman who comes across as an intelligent, statesman like leader. I'm afraid he's over the heads of the majority of Iowa Republicans 50% of whom still believe the President wasn't born in America and another 26% aren't sure.

That speaks well for the GOP. With that alone as a judgement, maybe the majority of Iowa Republicans should thus have their voting rights denied based on sheer stupidity.

  • 13 votes
#1.21 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:50 PM EDT

What the hell is the matter with you people going on about the wonderfulness of the Bible? Read it just one time, and then let's see if you think it's so darned fine. Seriously! Read the damned thing. Do you know what they call someone who has read the Bible from cover to cover. Ready? AN ATHEIST!

Try this on for size - Genesis Chapter 6, verses 1-4:

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

Sons of God? Daughters of men? Giants in the earth? It's tempting to say, you just can't make this stuff up. Truth is - Yes, you can! That's exactly what happened. This is from the King James version. A version! This stuff is made up; low-grade fiction from people who couldn't write and who thought the earth was the center of the universe.

Really! Really? You want someone to lead this country who believes this nonsense? Really?

  • 11 votes
#1.22 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:00 PM EDT

It is just so silly to be controversial about 'The Bible,' for or against it. People just have to love it or hate it like anything else, as it is yet ANOTHER opportunity to self justify. There are Christians who read the Bible and they are none the worse for it. Maybe they are better people. Then there are faux Christians who read the bible and use it as an excuse that they don't have to help starving people, because that is Jesus' job (yes, for real, right here on Newsvine. Hypocrisy gold).

Perry is failing at science with his approach to Global Warming (yes I said Global Warming, get over it). But he is not alone. Still, you can count on America to be concerned with the economy first. Neither Democrats or Republicans ever make it THEIR first issue when elected, so I promise you Perry, and all the other candidates, will fail at that too. So does it really matter what the Republicans or Obama says while they don't tackle the economy as an issue, and only tackle it in campaign speeches? Hardly.

  • 6 votes
#1.23 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:11 PM EDT

Feisty and David Walker,

Many times the media has publicly proclaimed Obama as a Christian, not a muslim. So, if Perry is a crazy Christian then what does that make Obama. Lets lump all Christians together shall we. We need to label them all as crazy. Obama doesn't want you to know anything personal about him, it might hurt his reputation.

  • 3 votes
#1.24 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:18 PM EDT

The Republicans are all freaks. The Democrats are all cowards. What's a voter to do?

  • 10 votes
#1.25 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:21 PM EDT

It would be kind to call it 'marching to a different drummer.'

I'm a Christian but Perry is a whack-job. I get a headache just listening to him.

If he's nominated, he's going to get so thumped!

  • 12 votes
#1.26 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:25 PM EDT

Post #1 Another post with no sign of human Intelligence...

    #1.27 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:36 PM EDT

    Wow is this Nut Job out there! Yet look at the support the wack job is getting!

    Absolutely Frightening. The right wing base in this country is so ignorant I am scared for us all!

    • 7 votes
    #1.28 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:55 PM EDT

    bible basic instruction before leaving earth. David try another book.

      #1.29 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:55 PM EDT

      G.C.

      I guess I am crazy because I read the bible, also.

      No, you only became crazy After you read your bible. There, fixed that for you.

      • 1 vote
      #1.30 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:06 AM EDT

      Richard....everyone knows Perry did not do well in school. His grades at Texas A&M were below average. How do we know this? Because Perry released his college transcripts.

      So, how did Obama do in college? Sssshhhh......quite.......don't ask that question.....it's a big secret!!!!

        #1.31 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:24 AM EDT

        "So, how did Obama do in college? Sssshhhh......quite.......don't ask that question.....it's a big secret!!!!"

        No, he graduated Magna Cum Laude which to anyone who knows anything about higher education, means he graduated in at least the top 20% of his class. That ought to tell you all you need to know.

        • 2 votes
        #1.32 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:50 AM EDT

        Rick Perry is correct when he says that " the earth's temperature has been moving up and down for millenniums now and there are enough scientists out there now that are skeptical about the reasons for it". Scientists are skeptical about everything. That is their job. Scientists also know that there is not just one reason for each of the climate events. Over the many millennia (not "millenniums") of the Earth's history the tilt of the Earth's axis has changed, the distance between the Earth and the Sun has changed, the composition of the atmosphere has changed, the positions of the continents has changed, the vegetation has changed ..... just to name a few of the contributors to global climate change. The overwhelming majority of climate scientists support the theory that THIS global warming event is caused primarily by the increase in "greenhouse gases", including carbon dioxide, in the atmosphere.

        Perry's allegation that scientists are falsifying evidence for their own benefit is both irresponsible and irrational. Scientists make their reputations by being correct and very, very few would "cook the books" for the short-term gain of obtaining grant money. If you wish to look for a financial motive for "cooking the books" and promulgating false information look no further than the energy industry which benefits from our continued use of fossil fuels. The Koch brothers and all of the major oil companies have spent many millions of dollars refuting the theory of human-caused global climate change, spreading false information and even creating bogus "research institutes" to make their claims seem plausible. Perry is an anti-science politician who has been bought and paid for by the energy industry. His claims about global climate change have much more to do with his campaign chest than any knowledge he might possess.

        • 2 votes
        #1.33 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:38 PM EDT

        G.C.

        Not all Christians are crazy. President Obama is a "regular Christian" because for him the Bible serves as guidance for the way to live and the way to treat other people. Rich Perry, Michelle Bachman, and others are "crazy Christians" because they think that the Bible is a science book and far too often use the Bible to justify their hatred for others, for example, gays, non-Christians, etc.

        • 2 votes
        #1.34 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:49 PM EDT
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        Comment author avatarRick in VegasExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        What people fail to realize about Rick Perry is that he is so gay. I am sure he will have the full support of the Log Cabin Republicans. Journalists are frantically filing Freedom of Information Act requests to get Perry's ex-aides sealed Grand Jury testimony unsealed and released. In that testimony the aide, now in prison by the way, testified he and Perry carried out a years long relationship that was not all business by a long shot. Plus, like Ted Haggard, Perry has frequented male escorts and they are sure to come out of the woodwork once the price is right. Personally, I am hoping he gets the nomination and selects Larry Craig as his running mate if for no other reason then the entertainment value.

        • 35 votes
        #2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:41 PM EDT

        Where are you getting this?

          #2.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT

          Same place as "Perry sticking to his guns over comments". Wonderful knowing such a complete "flake" HAS GUNS AND IN NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM, ALONG WITH THE STUPIDITY TO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH WHEN STARING HIM IN THE FACE. Wonderful person, isn't he. But you probably thought George Bush was a Nobel laureate also. HE WASN'T, NEITHER IS PERRY, with an A. (PARRY). i WOULD LAUGH OUT LOUD IF IT WEREN'T SO DANGEROUS FOR OUR COUNTRY. I believe the republicraps want to "flood" the republicrap ticket with nothing but idiots hoping one will make it through. The reason we voted Bush and his ideology OUT (with a black man) was because he was so dangerous to this country that we put ANYBODY in his place. We will do it again if the teabag republicraps continue down the path of a scorched earth policy.

          • 24 votes
          #2.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

          SO TRUE, READ HISTORY ON SLICK RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • 9 votes
          #2.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:26 PM EDT

          I wondered about that, and perhaps why Perry creeps me out the way the banjo music does in "Deliverance." Jon Stewart also made note of this with "He got a real pretty mouth ain't he?" or Baby Makin' Hips? He walks a little stiff...

          • 18 votes
          #2.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:45 PM EDT

          Wow prick in Vegas sounds like you and the wannabepatriot go camping together alot..

          • 4 votes
          #2.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:01 PM EDT

          It's the J. Edgar Hoover syndrome or something. I especially suspect Perry suffers from this and Christine O'Donell too based on her weird reaction to the question on gay marriage..

          • 6 votes
          #2.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:57 PM EDT

          Shh, you're not supposed to reveal that until AFTER they've nominated Perry! Then we can dump that juicy scandal just before the election, and watch "Gods Own Party" freak out and write-in anybody else rather than vote for "one of them". The result, of course will be 4 more years...

          • 6 votes
          #2.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:02 PM EDT

          Will one of you liberal motor mouths please explain when and why you became so obsessed with a sexual preference. Gay is not ethnic, It's not a religion, it's not a way of life. It's not a race. So what is it? It's a sexual preference. Just the same as pedophilia, or bestiality or polygamy. Just sent a guy to prison for that. So where is the difference? Oh wait I know it's because it's a liberal cause. The others aren't.

          • 2 votes
          #2.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT

          Nick named "Bubba Bush".

          • 2 votes
          #2.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:24 PM EDT

          Post #2 is about as believable as Larry Sinclair's statements.

          Liberals are desperately stupid.

          It is hilarious.

          • 5 votes
          #2.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:35 PM EDT

          Nitemare2 by that definition being straight is a "sexual preference" "Just the same as pedophillia, or bestiality or polygamy" (sic).

          • 4 votes
          #2.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:37 PM EDT

          The truth is that there are many democrats who are terrified of Perry. He could EASELY defeat Obama. It makes perfect sense that in order to protect the interests of their Liberal party, they feel the need to trash Perry. The problem is that they would prefer to DOOM the country into a financial ABYSS in order to save Obama in 2012. Sad truth about Liberal patriotism from the democrats! Save the democratic party and their Obama love at any cost! Letting the country continue to spend itself into a hole and be owned by the Chinese. If you love the great USA, if you love your freedom, don't be foolish, vote Perry!!!!

          • 7 votes
          #2.12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:40 PM EDT

          Nightmare, pedophilia is just plain wrong. Doesn't belong in the same category. Bestiality? Please. Like anyone would defend that. Stop with your slippery slope crap. There is no such thing as a slippery slope until you're driving in the Rockies during an ice storm.

          • 2 votes
          #2.13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:44 PM EDT

          Rumors of his "preference" have been around for a long time. His "problem" isn't his preference but his inability to be HONEST about it. If he or anyone cant be honest about something so important, how will he about anything else? As a "Christian" don't you want to know his personal "ideals"... Realize that you also mention "polygamy" ....where are all you "Christians" that haven't spoken out about the Mormons? We all know its a cult ! But you pretend its an actual religeon and these Mormons are buying your votes....why is this now acceptable....YOU all have ridiculed the Mormon's like the Scientology.....Stop worrying about what I put in my mouth and worry about what comes out of YOURS!!

          • 4 votes
          #2.14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 PM EDT

          I think Perry believes that what is in America’s best interest is the same as what is in the best interest of Big Oil, Big Banks, Big Insurance companies, and Big Wall Street investment houses. Unfortunately for me, none of these entities act in my best interest.

          • 8 votes
          #2.15 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:01 PM EDT

          Mr. Anon. What is being straight? You want to now use slang as a definition. That would be heterosexual. And you are right except that was never illegal, or called wrong in the bible. And styro there are many people who would say you are wrong. And it is their right just as much as the gay person. So because you feel it's not right makes it wrong. But those who don't approve of the gay sexual preference are wrong for what they believe. That would make you a hypocrite. You never said anything about polygamy. Why is that illegal?

          • 1 vote
          #2.16 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:01 PM EDT

          Well, we sure don't have one in the office with a lick of common sense, now do we??

            #2.17 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:02 PM EDT

            Nitemare, I'm not calling you wrong. You put those words in my mouth. What is wrong is the idea of controlling others for the sake of what you believe is right. If two people are in love and want to commit their lives to each other in the eyes of the law, it has no bearing on you and you should have no right to stand in their way. You can believe it's wrong and teach your kids it's wrong all you want, but it is not for you to dictate to someone else what they can do unless it affects the rights of others in a real way. If two gay guys start making out in a restaurant, fine, say something, but if all they want to do is marry each other, then shut up.

            • 3 votes
            #2.18 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:45 PM EDT

            TruePatriot-445959

            You had to bring up Deliverance didn't ya? Now Perry creeps me out more than ever.

            • 1 vote
            #2.19 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:37 PM EDT
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            At first glance, i did like Gov. Perry but I cannot vote for any politician that is pro-illegal aliens. It is clear that Gov. Perry has an intimate passion for Mexico and its Mexican citizens, which makes me wonder... is Gov. Perry a Mexican American?... is he?

            • 19 votes
            #3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:45 PM EDT

            He just wants their votes.

            • 17 votes
            #3.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT

            RON PAUL 2012

            Today is his 76th birthday - Birthday fundraiser

            Check him out for yourself. Constitutional president for constitutional party. He speaks the truth.

            • 12 votes
            #3.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:11 PM EDT

            You too could vote to end social security. vote for Ron Paul

            • 14 votes
            #3.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

            I heard he was born in Mexico and his birth certificate is a forgery!

            • 28 votes
            #3.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:30 PM EDT

            Ron Paul will be 77 next year when we vote. Do you really want someone of this age to be President? He will definitely be a one-termer should he win. I'm sorry if this sounds discriminatory against older folks; I don't mean to be. It seems to me that there should be an age limit for this job, just like any other one.

            • 23 votes
            #3.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:40 PM EDT

            bethie,

            Having an age limit on a job is illegal. You can't discriminate against a person because of their age in any profession. You are right to apologize, because you *do* sound very discriminatory against older folks. What, they hit a certain age and suddenly they're useless? I hope you get fired for "being too old" someday.

            • 17 votes
            #3.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:51 PM EDT

            It is clear that Gov. Perry has an intimate passion for Mexico and its Mexican citizens, which makes me wonder... is Gov. Perry a Mexican American?

            Nah, he just has an innate passion to provide cheap labor to his big business cronies. Hire illegals "under the table", and they can pay less than minimum wage and don't have to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes.

            Obama has increased the number of Border Patrol Agents, and have stepped up investigations and raids on companies hiring illegals. Maybe you should consider voting to re-elect...

            • 25 votes
            #3.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:09 PM EDT

            Passive, I should have worded my post more carefully. I had retirement ages on my mind, like age 65 (this is not mandatory). You're right about the illegality of discrimination of ageism. I work with people of all ages and appreciate everything each one brings to the table. I especially appreciate the perspective and experience an older colleague can share, so don't get me wrong about questioning Paul's age. My question really is: will Paul's age be used against him (kind of like McCain last time)? This would not be fair, especially if he's the most qualified candidate.

            • 8 votes
            #3.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:16 PM EDT

            bethie in texas

            Ron Paul will be 77 next year when we vote. Do you really want someone of this age to be President?

            Not a problem... Palin for VP! No? How 'bout Bachmann? As good as gold... plating... tarnished... worn.

            • 4 votes
            #3.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:23 PM EDT

            What's a "Mexican-American"?

            A Cheech and Chong joke from the '70's?

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            #3.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:45 PM EDT

            Another foolish comment from those who are scared of Perry! He is about as American as it can get, Comparing to Obama? Sorry, Ron Paul will never make it! He would never get the nomination. Good old guy though. Ron Paul has some strange ideas about foreign policy, I don't think the conservatives would ever consider him. I think his son, Rand Paul, would have a chance if he would run in the future. The truth is, Are you better off today in America with Obama? ARE YOU HONESTLY DOING BETTER DURING Obama's presidency? Be honest? I already know the answer, YOU ARE NOT!!!! We are not! I want to give Perry a chance, Texas seems to be doing better than the liberal states! They have a balanced budget and have jobs. I am voting Perry!

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            #3.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 PM EDT
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            Feisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Karl Rove & the rest of the Teapublican 'handlers' can't seem to reel in Pretty Boy Perry!

            Don't you LOVE it when they double down on crazy?

            If you thought Bible Spice was a loose canon, wait until the arrogant, ignorant bible banging TX Governor gets warmed up... lol

            He's only just begun..

            Helpful Hint - make sure you have plenty of *popcorn* handy! ;o)

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            #1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:34 PM EDT
            Idaho Spud-1126196

            Tough to get those bottom-feeders to come up to the surface.

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            #1.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:43 PM EDT
            Richard-348249

            "...whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be and that state."
            "Whether it's... I didn't think that for the state of Texas an Arizona exact law was right for state of Texas."

            (Rick obviously did not do well in high school English.)

            In the Air Force, not being able to rise above the rank of Captain is the mark of shame among your peers.

            Do Texans understand the connotation of being referred to as a 'dingle-berry'?

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            #1.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:18 PM EDT
            TruePatriot-445959

            Or is he sticking to his controversy with his guns?

            Seriously, those who know Perry will tell you he will not compromise, budge, admit to error, etc. Sound familiar? Stay the course, shoot from the hip, Yosemite Sam, the "decider." In this time of polarization and the Teabaggers enabled by Republicans who see compromise as a dirty, why would anyone want this kind of person in the White House?

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            #1.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:40 PM EDT
            G.C.

            What is wrong with a candidate that reads the bible? At least Perry reads something worth the paper it is written on. I assure you he is not sitting on pins and needles waiting to read your comment. I guess I am crazy because I read the bible, also. Perry has his opinions on global warming that I do not share 100%, there is warming but we do not know the cause or how to reverse it. Science can help understand but not likely to reverse the trend, but time wil tell. I think the dollar is at its weakest in history and it is a result of Bernanke's decisions. He may have went a bit far with act of treason. Perry seems like he has more enthusiasm to fix America's problems than the current Administration combined and I like it whether he ends up the nominee or not. He seems to genuinely care about Americans without jobs and doesn't need a poll to tell him what needs to get done.

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            #1.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:58 PM EDT
            Barry-NJ

            He seems to genuinely care about Americans without jobs and doesn't need a poll to tell him what needs to get done.

            Yeah, he cares about you if you're straight, white and christian. The rest of us are out of luck.

            I think the dollar is at its weakest in history and it is a result of Bernanke's decisions.

            You do realize that there are advantages to having a weak dollar, don't you? Among them is that it makes our exports cheaper and our imports more expensive, helping domestic manufacturing.

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            #1.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:17 PM EDT
            Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

            Yeah, he cares about you if you're straight, white and christian. The rest of us are out of luck.

            Hopefully the majority of America cares about issues OTHER then God - Gays & Guns...

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            #1.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:22 PM EDT
            Doug-1207714

            Perry's the perfect example of someone who ignores that old adage...... "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!" He just keeps forgetting that last half of that phrase! Clearly, there's just no cure for "stupid"!!

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            #1.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:27 PM EDT
            Anyfishinsea-1033828

            There have been three TX Presidents in my life. One who spent social security on the Great Society to properly house "negros". One who brought us the Iran Contra affair and the Savings and Loan scandal, and the last who tried to bankrupt the world while fighting the Haliburton War. There is only one North American Government more corrupt than Mexico - and its in Austin. This guy "believes" in God but doesn't "believe" in global warming because both are popular with Big Oil. Just another Texas Tool.

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            #1.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:03 PM EDT
            Steve L.

            Keep on keep on with the hope & change, even non-whites & non- christians realize Mr. O is out of his league. One and Done.

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            #1.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:04 PM EDT
            Americans First-3238795

            You wish.

            Until he signs the Norquist pledge to never raise taxes on the richest like all the republicans, he will have my vote.

            Obama 2012

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            #1.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:13 PM EDT
            Barlow-1919963

            Likewise my vote. When a group people enshrine ignorance as a pastime and stupidity as a goal they should never ever be considered for leadership. The world we live in now is one world, every place in connected to every other place and these idiots want to divide the power of the Federal Government and weaken it at a time when we need all the international force we can generate.

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            #1.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:28 PM EDT
            slodon

            Barry

            Do you know what else a weak dollar does??? It causes INFLATION. That means the things you buy cost more. Your wages a worth less,your retirement fund is worth less,and you Health Cost cost more. Yep that weak dollar sure does us a lot of good.

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            #1.12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:28 PM EDT
            The Devil-1138528

            Anyone who believes in the fairy tale called the Bible ought to be locked in a padded room.

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            #1.13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:38 PM EDT
            DRWHO1234

            Yay Perry! He's totally awesome in a totally not George Bush way! When he's in it he's in it ALLLL THAAA WAAAYE!

            This guy is the biggest tool out there. I mean, come on.... Stop it with the Rick Perry show. Al Gore's campaign manager? Forced innoculations of women? Trans-Texas corridor NAFTA Superhighway? If America knew just how corrupt this guy is in Texas I wonder if they'd back him. The evangelical Christians, or as I like to call them, "America's Taliban," are so hypocritical that they'd back this clown? Maybe.

            At least we know that Bank of America is ready to use your bailout tax dollars to pump this guy's campaign.

            This whole process makes me ashamed to be American. There is no hope people. It's totally over. America the whore. Bought for a few bucks a night and then her people get gangraped by fascist government/corporatists. And then they have the nerve to put this fake chump up there.

            Makes me sick

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            #1.14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:48 PM EDT
            CM-6969

            GC, nothing wrong with reading the Bible - unless that's all you read. The Bible is useful for religious guidance and theological discussions, but it isn't very useful for Economics, and is totally useless for matters of Science or Constitutional Law.

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            #1.15 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:52 PM EDT
            DMAC-1004611

            Nothing like the leftwing socialist morons on parade hear who never ever put anything remotely intelligent on here, just a bunch of angry whinebags who don't have the first clue about economics, politics or probably there own screwed up house. TUFF if you liberal idiots don't like it!!!! It sure doesn't work the democrap way and getting worse by the day. Absolute proof of that.

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            #1.16 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:09 PM EDT
            Living in a Racist state

            I read the Bible - I believe in the Bible - I try to live by the Bible

            BUT - The President of The United States should not lead or desire to lead this country according to his beliefs in the Bible. I'm not saying to totally disregard the Bible - Just don't use it as THE guideline for leading this country.

            This is the very reason our forefathers were smart enough to write into the constitution The Seperation Of Church and State. You must remember what our forefathers went through when we gained our independence. We had high taxation without proper representation and we Had to belong to THE Church.

            Politics has NO place in Church AND Religion has NO place in politics. Surely, our forefathers were more inteligent they some people are today that want to join the two together.

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            #1.17 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT
            Pshawaintnoinjun

            It's not tough to get the bottom-feeders to come to the surface at all, Idaho-Spud. Feisty and yourself popped to the surface like a cork.

            See how easy that was?

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            #1.18 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:24 PM EDT
            Doug Ponders

            Well said DMAC.

            In the Air Force, not being able to rise above the rank of Captain is the mark of shame among your peers

            One would have to be a brain dead simpleton to make such a statement. Or this one:

            If America knew just how corrupt this guy is in Texas I wonder if they'd back him.

            Enlighten America "Dr Who". Just how corrupt is Perry? Is he half as corrupt as Obama?

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            #1.19 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:25 PM EDT
            bmerbob

            DMAC, just a little spelling lesson from a moron left winger: that would be here, not hear, and their not there.

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            #1.20 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:42 PM EDT
            Jeff S-487230

            Why'd you just say that, huh? Another angry Republican who declares how he don't care, he's gonna piss on the floor and light his bed on fire even if you guys don't like it! So there!

            Like a few other posters I'm getting embarrassed by what passes for politics 2011. America is the laughing stock of the world. We just had the 2001-2008 previous Texas roundup that left the country broke and near a Depression.

            You couldn't gather a bigger bunch of "cartoons' than the current crop of GOP candydates. Bachmann, Perry, Romney, Paul, Santorum, Cain and there's always Palin searching for a camera.

            The only sentient adult is Huntsman who comes across as an intelligent, statesman like leader. I'm afraid he's over the heads of the majority of Iowa Republicans 50% of whom still believe the President wasn't born in America and another 26% aren't sure.

            That speaks well for the GOP. With that alone as a judgement, maybe the majority of Iowa Republicans should thus have their voting rights denied based on sheer stupidity.

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            #1.21 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:50 PM EDT
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            What people fail to realize about Rick Perry is that he is so gay. I am sure he will have the full support of the Log Cabin Republicans. Journalists are frantically filing Freedom of Information Act requests to get Perry's ex-aides sealed Grand Jury testimony unsealed and released. In that testimony the aide, now in prison by the way, testified he and Perry carried out a years long relationship that was not all business by a long shot. Plus, like Ted Haggard, Perry has frequented male escorts and they are sure to come out of the woodwork once the price is right. Personally, I am hoping he gets the nomination and selects Larry Craig as his running mate if for no other reason then the entertainment value.

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            Reply#2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:41 PM EDT
            Styro

            Where are you getting this?

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            #2.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT
            ray4a

            Same place as "Perry sticking to his guns over comments". Wonderful knowing such a complete "flake" HAS GUNS AND IN NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM, ALONG WITH THE STUPIDITY TO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH WHEN STARING HIM IN THE FACE. Wonderful person, isn't he. But you probably thought George Bush was a Nobel laureate also. HE WASN'T, NEITHER IS PERRY, with an A. (PARRY). i WOULD LAUGH OUT LOUD IF IT WEREN'T SO DANGEROUS FOR OUR COUNTRY. I believe the republicraps want to "flood" the republicrap ticket with nothing but idiots hoping one will make it through. The reason we voted Bush and his ideology OUT (with a black man) was because he was so dangerous to this country that we put ANYBODY in his place. We will do it again if the teabag republicraps continue down the path of a scorched earth policy.

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            #2.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:23 PM EDT
            Lioness68

            SO TRUE, READ HISTORY ON SLICK RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            #2.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
            TruePatriot-445959

            I wondered about that, and perhaps why Perry creeps me out the way the banjo music does in "Deliverance." Jon Stewart also made note of this with "He got a real pretty mouth ain't he?" or Baby Makin' Hips? He walks a little stiff...

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            #2.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:45 PM EDT
            Dog-3829722

            Wow prick in Vegas sounds like you and the wannabepatriot go camping together alot..

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            #2.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:01 PM EDT
            haggisbingo-2225582

            It's the J. Edgar Hoover syndrome or something. I especially suspect Perry suffers from this and Christine O'Donell too based on her weird reaction to the question on gay marriage..

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            #2.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:57 PM EDT
            CM-6969

            Shh, you're not supposed to reveal that until AFTER they've nominated Perry! Then we can dump that juicy scandal just before the election, and watch "Gods Own Party" freak out and write-in anybody else rather than vote for "one of them". The result, of course will be 4 more years...

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            #2.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:02 PM EDT
            Nitemare2

            Will one of you liberal motor mouths please explain when and why you became so obsessed with a sexual preference. Gay is not ethnic, It's not a religion, it's not a way of life. It's not a race. So what is it? It's a sexual preference. Just the same as pedophilia, or bestiality or polygamy. Just sent a guy to prison for that. So where is the difference? Oh wait I know it's because it's a liberal cause. The others aren't.

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            #2.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT
            LMarcT

            Nick named "Bubba Bush".

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            #2.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:24 PM EDT
            Doug Ponders

            Post #2 is about as believable as Larry Sinclair's statements.

            Liberals are desperately stupid.

            It is hilarious.

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            #2.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:35 PM EDT
            Mr. Anon

            Nitemare2 by that definition being straight is a "sexual preference" "Just the same as pedophillia, or bestiality or polygamy" (sic).

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            #2.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:37 PM EDT
            TellTheTruth-3736461

            The truth is that there are many democrats who are terrified of Perry. He could EASELY defeat Obama. It makes perfect sense that in order to protect the interests of their Liberal party, they feel the need to trash Perry. The problem is that they would prefer to DOOM the country into a financial ABYSS in order to save Obama in 2012. Sad truth about Liberal patriotism from the democrats! Save the democratic party and their Obama love at any cost! Letting the country continue to spend itself into a hole and be owned by the Chinese. If you love the great USA, if you love your freedom, don't be foolish, vote Perry!!!!

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            #2.12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:40 PM EDT
            Styro

            Nightmare, pedophilia is just plain wrong. Doesn't belong in the same category. Bestiality? Please. Like anyone would defend that. Stop with your slippery slope crap. There is no such thing as a slippery slope until you're driving in the Rockies during an ice storm.

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            #2.13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:44 PM EDT
            robmos-503301

            Rumors of his "preference" have been around for a long time. His "problem" isn't his preference but his inability to be HONEST about it. If he or anyone cant be honest about something so important, how will he about anything else? As a "Christian" don't you want to know his personal "ideals"... Realize that you also mention "polygamy" ....where are all you "Christians" that haven't spoken out about the Mormons? We all know its a cult ! But you pretend its an actual religeon and these Mormons are buying your votes....why is this now acceptable....YOU all have ridiculed the Mormon's like the Scientology.....Stop worrying about what I put in my mouth and worry about what comes out of YOURS!!

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            #2.14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 PM EDT
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            Pardon me

            At first glance, i did like Gov. Perry but I cannot vote for any politician that is pro-illegal aliens. It is clear that Gov. Perry has an intimate passion for Mexico and its Mexican citizens, which makes me wonder... is Gov. Perry a Mexican American?... is he?

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            Reply#3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:45 PM EDT
            Idaho Spud-1126196

            He just wants their votes.

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            #3.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT
            WakeupPeople-1760896

            RON PAUL 2012

            Today is his 76th birthday - Birthday fundraiser

            Check him out for yourself. Constitutional president for constitutional party. He speaks the truth.

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            #3.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:11 PM EDT
            Americans First-3238795

            You too could vote to end social security. vote for Ron Paul

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            #3.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:17 PM EDT
            don1954

            I heard he was born in Mexico and his birth certificate is a forgery!

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            #3.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:30 PM EDT
            bethie in texas

            Ron Paul will be 77 next year when we vote. Do you really want someone of this age to be President? He will definitely be a one-termer should he win. I'm sorry if this sounds discriminatory against older folks; I don't mean to be. It seems to me that there should be an age limit for this job, just like any other one.

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            #3.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:40 PM EDT
            passiveobserver

            bethie,

            Having an age limit on a job is illegal. You can't discriminate against a person because of their age in any profession. You are right to apologize, because you *do* sound very discriminatory against older folks. What, they hit a certain age and suddenly they're useless? I hope you get fired for "being too old" someday.

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            #3.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:51 PM EDT
            CM-6969

            It is clear that Gov. Perry has an intimate passion for Mexico and its Mexican citizens, which makes me wonder... is Gov. Perry a Mexican American?

            Nah, he just has an innate passion to provide cheap labor to his big business cronies. Hire illegals "under the table", and they can pay less than minimum wage and don't have to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes.

            Obama has increased the number of Border Patrol Agents, and have stepped up investigations and raids on companies hiring illegals. Maybe you should consider voting to re-elect...

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            #3.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:09 PM EDT
            bethie in texas

            Passive, I should have worded my post more carefully. I had retirement ages on my mind, like age 65 (this is not mandatory). You're right about the illegality of discrimination of ageism. I work with people of all ages and appreciate everything each one brings to the table. I especially appreciate the perspective and experience an older colleague can share, so don't get me wrong about questioning Paul's age. My question really is: will Paul's age be used against him (kind of like McCain last time)? This would not be fair, especially if he's the most qualified candidate.

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            #3.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:16 PM EDT
            LMarcT

            bethie in texas

            Ron Paul will be 77 next year when we vote. Do you really want someone of this age to be President?

            Not a problem... Palin for VP! No? How 'bout Bachmann? As good as gold... plating... tarnished... worn.

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            #3.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:23 PM EDT
            Doug Ponders

            What's a "Mexican-American"?

            A Cheech and Chong joke from the '70's?

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            #3.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:45 PM EDT
            TellTheTruth-3736461

            Another foolish comment from those who are scared of Perry! He is about as American as it can get, Comparing to Obama? Sorry, Ron Paul will never make it! He would never get the nomination. Good old guy though. Ron Paul has some strange ideas about foreign policy, I don't think the conservatives would ever consider him. I think his son, Rand Paul, would have a chance if he would run in the future. The truth is, Are you better off today in America with Obama? ARE YOU HONESTLY DOING BETTER DURING Obama's presidency? Be honest? I already know the answer, YOU ARE NOT!!!! We are not! I want to give Perry a chance, Texas seems to be doing better than the liberal states! They have a balanced budget and have jobs. I am voting Perry!

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            #3.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 PM EDT
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            Why wouldn't Perry do so; the man is a crazed, religious fanatic, ideologue thinking the nation must conform to how he believes it must be.

            No thanks, the country has seen enough results from the crazies.

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            Reply#4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:50 PM EDT
            JamesDouglasMorrison

            You're right, there are far too many lunatic leftists in the world destroying every country they get their vile hands on.

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            #4.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:44 PM EDT
            TruePatriot-445959

            It's been pointed out how Republicans have a talent for seeming to be the only option when it comes to religious belief, or national security, and how Dems are "tax and spend," and even "evil" -- Completely false, even the other way around, but the GOP (starting with Reagan) has been better at messaging.

            Dems are so careful regarding Separation of Church and State, which in reality applies most of all to government support for only one religion (i.e., Christianity the way Perry's Prayer Meeting was), but does not mean that the Dems cannot talk about their faith--maybe they should more. At least the Dems would do it in a more reverent and meaningful way, concern for the poor, taking care of the Earth, being accepting, etc.

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            #4.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:58 PM EDT
            G.C.

            Perry recognizes that you have a mind of your own and he doesn't use media to convince you to see things his way. You decide! No one is forcing you to believe anything, it is your choice.

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            #4.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:03 PM EDT
            Dog-3829722

            LMAO wannbepatriot.. WOW your in your little liberal shell.. Liberals are loyal to NOTHING, everything they stand for is what is convient at that moment.. Don't tell it like it is, lets color everything so it sounds pretty. It used to be hard work was the norm, now it is the exception... Find your vegas friend & go camping

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            #4.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:04 PM EDT
            apmprescott

            james - you along with many seeming to think like you always believe those disagreeing are "liberal and leftist".

            Bad news for you all; a right of center Independent and guess what it will take in any national election.

            G.C. Good, then tell Perry make his whacko remarks in front of those that care to "follow" him and not in front of the cameras. Then there can be no complaining on how he is being characterized.

            Dog - Some observation given the stand by those like the Tea Party demanding that over 3 billion in tax cuts and loopholes must be protected. Those breaks on our dime BTW. Then again, no guessing on what sector they are looking out after.

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            #4.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:47 PM EDT
            Ciewywtb42mh6sps-23

            G.C. - "Perry recognizes that you have a mind of your own and he doesn't use media to convince you to see things his way."

            So I have a mind of my own BUT he needs me to see things his way to govern?

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            Dog - "Liberals are loyal to NOTHING, everything they stand for is what is convient at that moment.. Don't tell it like it is, lets color everything so it sounds pretty. It used to be hard work was the norm, now it is the exception.."

            So if Republicans are so admirably loyal to their ideology what happened to fiscal conservatism over the last 30 years? Why is it that every conservative-inspired idea that Obama adopts (like the DREAM Act or individual mandate for universal healthcare) Republicans turn their backs on and disavow; it that not, too, politically convenient?

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            #4.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:17 PM EDT
            passiveobserver

            Dog,

            Yeah, like how Republicans are so fiscally conservative, what with lowering taxes while fighting two wars and starting an expensive prescription drug program. Like how Bush campaigned on being against "nation building," and how the GOP in 2008 said "Finish the Job in Iraq and Afghanistan" while now they say "Obama is evil for not bringing the troops home!"

            There is nothing flightier than a Republican, because when push comes to shove, if Obama supports it, regardless of how conservative it is (4 trillion in cuts and Boehner said NO), the GOP will fight it because their only goal is to make him a one-term president. McConnel has stated that almost verbatum.

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            #4.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:56 PM EDT
            bethie in texas

            True Patriot--I agree with you. I think lots of Dems are people of faith, but we are tolerant of others' faiths, so we don't go around pushing ours on others. I detest it when folks like "Dog" above assume they know what "liberals" believe. We are indeed a diverse group, difficult to pigeon-hole, which drives people like him nuts.

            My main issues are education, health care, and the environment. Perry's record on all three of these issues is dismal. Jobs are great, but what good is a job if you're sick and can't afford medical treatment? When I heard a local pastor say--from the pulpit no less--"health care is a privilege, not a right", I wonder if I truly share the same values with him.

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            #4.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:58 PM EDT
            Dog-3829722

            I am neither republican or democrat.. I vote for who I truely believe is trying to do what is best for our country, nor more & no less. I live in Washington state and vote for Patti Murray everytime she runs. why? She stands by the Veterans that gave so much already. On the other side, I vote for David Reicher when he runs. why? he gets out and is trying to make a difference also.

            I do lean more right then left, but not way right. I have my opinon on abortion, but it is not my place to tell any woman what they can or can't do with their bodies. I do have one question. If (as the left says) it is a choice not a life. Then why, if a pregnant is murdered, is it called a double homicide? Either it is a life or it isn't, can't be both ways.

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            #4.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:59 PM EDT
            Nitemare2

            Hey don't you remember Obama has had 2 dinners in the White House celebrating the Muslim religious holiday of Ramadan. So he shows he believes in religion.

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            #4.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:28 PM EDT
            apmprescott

            The nut c ases never end!

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            #4.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:30 PM EDT
            Mr. Anon

            Nitemare, cite your sources.

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            #4.12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:38 PM EDT
            bmerbob

            Nitemare2, see following:

            "The dinner follows in the tradition of former President George W. Bush, who held eight Ramadan dinners in office to stress that America's war with violent extremists was not a war with Islam. ... "

            Goose/gander?

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            #4.13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 PM EDT
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            I know this is off-subject, but...

            They're Not All Crazy

            Jon Huntsman will appear in a taped interview with Piers Morgan Monday night. I found the following interesting:

            Considering the impact of the nation's economy on world markets, the 2012 GOP presidential candidate said he couldn't fathom how Republican colleagues discussed the possibility of defaulting on the country's debt during the heated debate surrounding whether the borrowing limit should be increased.

            "I thought it was the height of irresponsibility," he said.

            "We're 25 percent of the world's GDP. The United States of America that has never defaulted before—just let it go over a cliff—you can imagine what the marketplace would have done in response," Huntsman continued.

            "The marketplace is trashing everybody right now, assets are underwater…you can only imagine what this country would look like today if we had defaulted. It was complete lunacy for people to even talk about that."

            Sadly, the Teapublicans are going to destroy him for his dissent.

            politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/19/huntsman-decries-debt-debate-lunacy/

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            Reply#5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:53 PM EDT
            NorthstarDFL

            Da Noid, Huntsman sound likes reasonable person with good mind. The republicans are doubling down on "Crazy" candidates. Even Bank of America executive is telling Perry don't worry we got some PAC money for you...

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            #5.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:52 PM EDT
            Barry-NJ

            "Huntsman sounds like a reasonable person with a good mind" ... that's exactly why he won't get the nomination. The tea baggers will only nominate a dogmatic candidate who doesn't understand that the world is not a black-and-white place.

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            #5.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:21 PM EDT
            Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

            Da Noid, Huntsman sound likes reasonable person with good mind.

            Which means he doesn't stand a chance...

            Being of sound mind will get you NO where near the nomination this time around...

            *shakes head*

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            #5.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:24 PM EDT
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            peteMT

            You're a nobody, Perry.

            Did you see the results of the Iowa straw poll?

            The gig is up, Republicans. Boy, it feels dirty capitalizing that word now after the last 20 years.

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            Reply#6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:55 PM EDT
            passiveobserver

            I dislike Perry greatly, but that's not really fair. Perry wasn't even listed on the ballot, and he didn't campaign in Iowa at all beforehand, and he still beat a lot of other candidates just from write-ins.

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            #6.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:02 PM EDT
            leon-1788340

            perry got votes from the colbert listing as parry.

            also remember bank of America-we'll help you out rick!

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            #6.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:51 PM EDT
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            Lee Sterne

            Rick Perry struts on stage like "Cool hand Luke" but when he opens his mouth, he's "Hot Head Rick"

            Shouldn't a President think before he talks?

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            Reply#7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:58 PM EDT
            Da Noid

            So you're saying that what we have here is failure to communicate, yes?

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            #7.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:06 PM EDT
            marta-100874

            Rick struts around because Harold Simmons throws money hand over fist to make him feel like GOD. The reason is, Perry okays all of Simmons dirty work, such as building a radioactive waste dump over a crucial underground water supply.

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            #7.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:42 PM EDT
            Randy-840072

            Shouldn't a President think before he talks?

            I guess Rick needs to borrow Obama's telepromter LOL

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            #7.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT
            Nitemare2

            Wow it's not the Koch Bros? Some new person pulling the strings and spreading money? Wow kind of like Soros and Lewis. And Buffet. do for the Liberals. Marta your a frigging hypocrite

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            #7.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:34 PM EDT
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            John'sSpice

            The teapartiers' rabid love of Rick Perry. Watch out for their bite, it's worse than their bark. Rear up, rear back and sick the dogs on America, sick em wild and loose, with heavy women in town hall meetings with their backs to the camera. Go America! Run for the hills, my dear brethren.

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            Reply#8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:06 PM EDT
            Tony C-2383666

            So what is Obama's GPA? Oh thats right he has a right to privacy..... funny thing this double standard....

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            #8.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:36 PM EDT
            Steve L.

            One and Done for the campaigner in chief

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            #8.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:07 PM EDT
            haggisbingo-2225582

            Perry = candidate of scared, ignorant, racist, white people

            Tea Party = neo-nazis 2.0 (they've re-invented themselves for a new era!)

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            #8.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:01 PM EDT
            Randy-840072

            4 trillion in overspending is ALL GREEN race has nothing to do with it.

            O = epic fail

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            #8.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:34 PM EDT
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            Rick Perry="W" 2.0 which, coincidentally, equals their college G.P.A's. Both are dumber than West Texas dirt! Perry is Bush minus the personality and compassion. If George H.W. Bush and Dick Cheney had a love child, the result would be Rick Perry.

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            Reply#9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:13 PM EDT
            kate 1855079

            It is not only George W. that he is chanelling but also George C. Wallace (governor, southern populist and states' rights defender ....)

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            #9.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:09 PM EDT
            NorthstarDFL

            Kate, thanks for that connection. haven't thought about old George Wallace for years.

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            #9.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:19 PM EDT
            Steve L.

            Wallace was a democrat.

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            #9.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:07 PM EDT
            kate 1855079

            So was Gov. Perry...he just lived longer and saw where he fit in best.

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            #9.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:14 PM EDT
            passiveobserver

            Everyone in the south was a Democrat until the Democrats forced them to integrate racially. The south's Republican beginnings were, interestingly enough, not based on fiscal conservatism or policies, but racial hatred.

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            #9.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:06 PM EDT
            Nitemare2

            passive what history book are you reading? Lincoln was a Republican. Ike Eisenhower was the next President to start civil rights. And LBJ was forced to only after JFK started the civil rights bill. Following the Ike outline. And if you get right JFK would not be supported by the Dems of today. He believed in tax cuts and less govt. He believed in people doing for themselves. What about the great late Sen Byrd who was a KKK Grand Wizard?

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            #9.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:45 PM EDT
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            Jon R-469000

            Rick Perry="W" 2.0 which, coincidentally, equals their college G.P.A's. Both are dumber than West Texas dirt! Perry is Bush minus the personality and compassion. If Dick Cheney and Barbara Bush had a love child, the result would be Rick Perry.

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            Reply#10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:15 PM EDT
            marshal-2837579

            I think he honestly believes helicopter ben is a traitor to his country. Hehehe, He just doesn't know ben's job description. And he says he likes the constitution but wants to change it in soooo many shocking ways. Doing away with tax collection? Lots of states rights issues.

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            Reply#11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
            serious

            Just what we need, another bellicose (Fed comments), anti-science(evolution and climate change comments) politician.

            What an embarrassment.

            Maybe he should pray for some brains.

            I might have to refer to him as the "scarecrow" of the GOP - as in the Wizard of Oz scarecrow.

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            Reply#12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
            marshal-2837579

            And to me, climate change should be a religious issue because soooo many animals, plants, & sea life are going the way dinosaur. Take animals, they need to move 15 miles each year nowadays or die. But how many will move? Half will be gop animals & refuse to believe.

            But you what perry would say. That scientists are being paid to say those things about animals needing to move or die. That the data is falsified. Hehehe. But the very first people who noticed the fact that animals were moving were armature birders during the christmas bird counts that go back over 115 years. The very first reports of animal movements each year came from the ten of thousands of christmas birder counters.

            But i tell sooo many animals die because some are gop animals and don't believe the need to move and die. Others are progressive animals and move but are unable to adjust to the new environments and die. Only the select few animals who move survive the move. So after a while the numbers of animals go further and further down. Not a problem until you think of their creator and how the creator must be pissed to see all these creations dying off.

            And hey, perry doesn't have to worry either unless the creator of the animals is the same creator who created him. Then there might be an issue.

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            Reply#13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:31 PM EDT
            Tony C-2383666

            Interesting that liberals have forgotten this arrogant statement by Obama:

            "If I can't fix the economy in 3 years I don't deserve a second term." by Obama. Can you say back pedal.....

            or this one...."The Republicans can come along for the ride as I make everything great again, but they have to ride in the back seat." Oh but now, it is compromise time.......and blame time as always....

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            Reply#14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:32 PM EDT
            serious

            Tony, the article isn't about Obama. It's about Rick Perry and the comments he's made. Why does it shock you that the rest of us are discussing what the article is about?

            If he's going to run for President and want our votes, then we certainly have the right to consider what he says, don't you think????

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            #14.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:38 PM EDT
            Tony C-2383666

            I agree. The title is Perry sticks to his guns on comments he makes....Think Obama will do the same? See my point?

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            #14.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:58 PM EDT
            NorthstarDFL

            Tony C, OK, so Perry is a stubborn anti-science, states rights defender, candidate.

            It still makes him crazy.

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            #14.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:25 PM EDT
            serious

            Sticking to your guns when the facts imply that you are wrong is not wise.

            Being able to change your mind when the data indicates you should is far wiser.

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            #14.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:29 PM EDT
            Tony C-2383666

            Interesting. When this done by a Republican it is called flip floping.

            Given 3 years of failed economic policy by Obama. Do you really believe he will admit he was wrong or just keep blaming and making excuses.

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            #14.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:59 PM EDT
            Steve L.

            The liberals will never do a story on Obama. By the way his "jobs" campaign bus was built in Canada.

            Hope and Change....really??

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            #14.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:10 PM EDT
            Squidword

            Tony Einstein Obama hasn't been president for three years yet! Can you say COUNT...I think ya can.

            Feb. 2009-Aug.2011

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            #14.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:37 PM EDT
            Squidword

            Tony given the fact you can't count then how can your opinion on the economy be worth anything?

            After all Obama's policy wasn't in place until after June 2010 so he has had about one year to straighten out what Bush screwed up in eight! Perhaps you could go back to an eighth-grade math class so you can learn to stand up for a principle and sit in your own chair!

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            #14.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:43 PM EDT
            surrviivor

            Tony c this is about perry, and Obama said that before a bunch of dummies elected a bunch of new dummies into control of congress...anyway , why do you hate Obama so much he is just continuing all the same expensive failed wars , stupid corporate welfare tax cuts, debt ceiling increases and cuts to social security and medicare that bush did. and he actually started another stupid war. You guys should love him. Obamacare will get shot down by the supreme court..so in in all he has done nothing......he is just like"four more years of W".

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            #14.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:03 PM EDT
            surrviivor

            as bus from canada omg! ! ! a bus. hmmm I saw a bus with a Rick Scott campaign slogan on it in SC hmm ..Perrys! where is it from? maybe its illegal and from mexico, but its little buses still get in state tuition, even when other legal american little buses from other states have to pay more tuition than little buses that have illegal parents, amazin!.aaaand very fair. Perry is the bestus!

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            #14.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:13 PM EDT
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            He can't speak American English. He talks jobs, stating that HE generated 75,000 jobs in Texas. Well, here are the figures: 115,000 government jobs created - 40,000 private industry jobs left the state= 75,000. He certainly is creative, if nothing else. Telling people to pray for rain; how about making sure people conserve water? In one Texas town they use 6,300 gallons a week for the local high school football field while livestock die in fields. The kids might miss the football, but conservation will teach them what they need to know for the future.

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            Reply#15 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:37 PM EDT
            Bo-1925019

            Wow, Thats some headway, Drawing crowds of over 450 braindead idiots,,,,,,Whew, We might have to get some extra chairs, LOL

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            Reply#16 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:37 PM EDT
            mynameisearlene

            Good Lord! All of the repub candidates and hopefuls are so weird and/or braindead that it's getting difficult to come up with new jokes about them! It's getting to be a "one joke fits all" kind of situation.

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            Reply#17 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:41 PM EDT
            Mark Battey

            No person who does not believe in global warming and evolution now, in 2011, is qualified to be President. I suppose those money grubbing scientists he is referring to are the ones he thinks there are enough of to say it's not a real issue, because grubbing for money is the only reason a scientist would deny global warming at this point. He'd probably consider one of those enough to rebuke all the other climate scientists in the world.

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            Reply#18 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:45 PM EDT
            JamesDouglasMorrison

            Oh boy, the petrified lemmings are out in force today. Let's not forget record unemployment, record food stamp usage, a non existent recovery, no foreign policy, 3 wars and record debt and deficits. Yep, sounds like a failed record that should be rewarded with 4 more years.

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            Reply#19 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:46 PM EDT
            NorthstarDFL

            James DM, so Perry is answering your questions? all I heard is a real "States rights guy" that connects monetary policy with the concerns of small business. How did he explain that connection? I am really having trouble with why he is even running for president.

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            #19.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:04 PM EDT
            Barry-NJ

            A Republican president got us into two of those wars. The third one, Libya, looks like it'll be a victory after just a few months. Looks like Obama does a better job of choosing his wars than Bush.

            The recession started under Bush and the GOP has been damn unhelpful in doing anything to fix the problem. In fact, I doubt they even want it fixed. If the economy improves, Obama will win re-election hands down.

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            #19.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:26 PM EDT
            Steve L.

            The recession started with a democratic congress, who many voted for those wars. You all blamed Bush for 911, 9 months into his first term. But Obama gets a pass almost 3 years later???

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            #19.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:14 PM EDT
            Old Me

            Steve he started that crap without congressional approval, but hey whatever floats your boat just remember you are entitled to the facts just not ones you make up.

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            #19.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:16 PM EDT
            surrviivor

            a democratic congress ..wow you need to read , alot more. although common sense can't be taught, just try and think.are you talking about the congress "w" vetoed for two years? a big problem has been going on for 10 years 10!.... look up government gone wild on youtube

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            #19.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:24 PM EDT
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            SLWS

            WOW I've never seen so many Ivy League Grad's in one room. This has to be the smartest room I've ever been too. Yes Richard Texans knows what Dingle berry's are, but I don't think you do or you woudn't have used it in that way. But your the brain surgen not me. I do not agree with what Perry said but look at what Herry Reid said a couple of years ago about americans who are black. Are you going to make fun of him? This country needs jobs, and if Perry can help us then great, if not we need to find someone who can. If Obama can come up with a plan to help businesses creat new jobs then we need to vote for him if not he needs to go. We need someone who can bring Washington together.

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            Reply#20 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
            MichaelC-434747

            Texas is tied with Mississippi for having the highest proportion of minimum wage jobs. If that's your vision of America, go for it.

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            #20.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:39 PM EDT
            Old Me

            MichaelC That is no kidding, and certainly not something to be proud about. But Texans have always marched to a different beat just look at the state and the people. Y'all come back now here, LOL.

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            #20.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT
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            Having been elected the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, while Perry was having difficulty passing Advanced Basket Weaving at the University of Texas for Half-Wits, speaks volumes as to the comparative intellectual capacity of President Obama versus Rick "Boot In Mouth" Perry.

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            Reply#21 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:53 PM EDT
            Diane Reeves

            Perry claims to be representing the people of America while calling the Fed Chairman Treasonous and threatening to "treat him ugly" in Texas. You don't represent me, Perry. I wouldn't allow anyone as loud-mouthed, arrogant and stupid as you to represent me. Note to GubinorGeezus-Freak Perry: Please go back to Texass where they still keep boot-scapers and spitoons by the front door for those who, like you, talk like they've got a mouthful of marbles and are too stupid to avoid stepping in rhetorical cow-patties.

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            Reply#22 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:01 PM EDT
            MichaelC-434747

            Perry is trying to sell himself to the American people. Its a bit of putting the cart before the horse to say he represents the American people. I already know he'll never represent me. Next...

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            #22.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:35 PM EDT
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            Bluebird Sister

            Teawisted ! Tea pottiers say they know what the american people want, but they don't get it that there are a lot of other people who see through their bs. They only consider their own as Americans.

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            Reply#23 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:21 PM EDT
            FormerMarineSgt

            Perry: ""I'm sorry if I offended a congressman but the fact of the matter is I'm about representing the American people out here."

            Dude, you do NOT represent the majority of the American people.

            Please stop confusing the small, fervently loyal crowd of far right wingers that support you with the majority of Americans.

            The majority of Americans think you are only slightly less bat sh *t crazy than Ms. Bachmann.

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            Reply#24 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:28 PM EDT
            Larry Robinson-1323081

            Both Perry and Bachmann stand head and shoulders above the liberals who suffer a mental disorder.

            Liberalism is a mental disorder because it denies the basic nature of mankind to be free. Instead liberals seek to have everyone enslaved to the state in collectivism and their totalitarian marxist redistribution of wealth.

            Until liberals seek help to be free of this mental disorder they unfortunately cannot be trusted.

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            #24.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:10 PM EDT
            Steve L.

            Will we see in 2012, now won't we. One and Done.

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            #24.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:15 PM EDT
            Old Me

            Larry I think you are the one who needs help and desperately as at this time not one politician Rep or Dem can be trusted.

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            #24.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:26 PM EDT
            surrviivor

            larry keep on fightin' fer that corporate welfare! yeeehaw! because we all know corporations are people too.

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            #24.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT
            bethie in texas

            Though Perry is the governor of Texas (and has been for over 10 agonizing years), I don't feel that he represents me or my values AT ALL. Please--I can live with a Republican president--but not another Bush (or worse than Bush) type. Actually, Bush 41 was a lot better than his son. At least papa Bush had a clue about foreign affairs.

            There has got to be someone better than Perry or Bachmann. Maybe this is the tactic--put up extreme candidates like these two and then Romney looks awesome by comparison.

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            #24.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:37 PM EDT
            CM-6969

            Liberalism is a mental disorder because it denies the basic nature of mankind to be free. Instead liberals seek to have everyone enslaved to the state in collectivism and their totalitarian marxist redistribution of wealth.

            Wrong. Liberals look to be free of the economic bondage that would result from a small minority of ultra-wealthy aristocrats owning everything and everyone else relegated to serfdom. You might not like the taxes of "tax and spend" liberals, but they come much closer to fiscal responsibility and balancing the budget than the "borrow and spend" conservatism we've seen during the most recent Republican administrations. Over half the current national debt was acquired under just 3 Republican Presidents - Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr. One third of the current national debt was added during the 8 years Bush Jr. was in office, most of that time with a Republican dominated Congress.

            Obama and the Democrats have never proposed "collectivism" or "marxism" or "totalitarian redistribution of wealth". Obama actually signed off on extending the Bush tax cuts (a mistake, in my opinion), and has been systematically selling off the GM assets acquired in the last month of the Bush Jr. administration. That's hardly a "socialist" move. Oh, but it's so much easier to argue against a made-up straw-man "marxist collectivist totalitarian lieberal" than the real thing.

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            #24.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:47 PM EDT
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            keep whining libs-that's all you have left as your 80 years of socialist programs are about to be reversed and cut off.

            And you'd better get used to saying President Perry come January 20, 2013.

            This libertarian is excited to actually see some Republicans coming into leadership who actually believe in the Constitution.

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            Reply#25 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:52 PM EDT
            kate 1855079

            Wouldn't a libertarian want to see another libertarian (Rep. Ron Paul or Rep. Rand Paul) rather than Gov. Perry? "see some Republicans coming into leadership who actually believe in the Constitution.." I guess that means that SOME Republicans (like President Bush and Vice President Cheney) do not actually believe in Constitution....something many people have suspected for a while.

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            #25.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:55 PM EDT
            Angelo Belcher

            What I personally find interesting is the proclamation that they LOVE the constitution so much...they can't wait to get there hands on it to CHANGE it! If you love it, LEAVE IT ALONE and abide by what is in it, including abortion rights, freedom of religion (or freedom FROM RELIGION), miranda rights, voting rights, and many other things in the constitution they (conservatives) profess to love so much.

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            #25.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:45 PM EDT
            Squidword

            Some Republicans can't even quote the Constitution correctly let alone defend it. They have forgotten their obsessive fight against Foideral Nationalism.

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            #25.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:51 PM EDT
            Old Me

            Larry whinning is all I have seen you do since your first post :-0

            Perry will never make it not in 2013 or ever but feel free to waste your vote. As for Obama I didn't vote for him last time and will not again. What I will say though is before I voted for Perry I would vote for Obama or anyone else for that matter.

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            #25.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT
            surrviivor

            I guess you are prolly not expecting social security there larry. what never worked a real job before? a trailer park underthetable whiteprotestant conservative? do you even realize that your party can no longer even be considered "conservative" because they are not! wh-owwww

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            #25.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:36 PM EDT
            surrviivor

            ah libertarian yes your party has one . and he is gooood ,I will be voting for him. Ron Paul baby...

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            #25.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:39 PM EDT
            cherrytom

            this is the songs we should sing to congress and Obama and all who are running for office.

            Oh We're Not Gonna Take It
            no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
            oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

            we've Got The Right To Choose And
            there Ain't No Way We'll Lose It
            this Is Our Life, This Is Our Song
            we'll Fight The Powers That Be Just
            don't Pick Our Destiny 'cause
            you Don't Know Us, You Don't Belong

            oh We're Not Gonna Take It
            no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
            oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

            oh You're So Condescending
            your Gall Is Never Ending
            we Don't Want Nothin', Not A Thing From You
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            if That's Your Best, Your Best Won't Do

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            you'll See/yeah

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            oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

            oh We're Not Gonna Take It
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            oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore
            no Way!

            oh.....................
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            we'll Fight/yeah
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            we're Not Gonna Take It
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            #3.12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:56 PM EDT
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            What people fail to realize about Rick Perry is that he is so gay. I am sure he will have the full support of the Log Cabin Republicans. Journalists are frantically filing Freedom of Information Act requests to get Perry's ex-aides sealed Grand Jury testimony unsealed and released. In that testimony the aide, now in prison by the way, testified he and Perry carried out a years long relationship that was not all business by a long shot. Plus, like Ted Haggard, Perry has frequented male escorts and they are sure to come out of the woodwork once the price is right. Personally, I am hoping he gets the nomination and selects Larry Craig as his running mate if for no other reason then the entertainment value.

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            Reply#2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:41 PM EDT
            Styro

            Where are you getting this?

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            #2.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT
            ray4a

            Same place as "Perry sticking to his guns over comments". Wonderful knowing such a complete "flake" HAS GUNS AND IN NOT AFRAID TO USE THEM, ALONG WITH THE STUPIDITY TO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH WHEN STARING HIM IN THE FACE. Wonderful person, isn't he. But you probably thought George Bush was a Nobel laureate also. HE WASN'T, NEITHER IS PERRY, with an A. (PARRY). i WOULD LAUGH OUT LOUD IF IT WEREN'T SO DANGEROUS FOR OUR COUNTRY. I believe the republicraps want to "flood" the republicrap ticket with nothing but idiots hoping one will make it through. The reason we voted Bush and his ideology OUT (with a black man) was because he was so dangerous to this country that we put ANYBODY in his place. We will do it again if the teabag republicraps continue down the path of a scorched earth policy.

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            #2.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:23 PM EDT
            Lioness68

            SO TRUE, READ HISTORY ON SLICK RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            #2.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
            TruePatriot-445959

            I wondered about that, and perhaps why Perry creeps me out the way the banjo music does in "Deliverance." Jon Stewart also made note of this with "He got a real pretty mouth ain't he?" or Baby Makin' Hips? He walks a little stiff...

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            #2.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:45 PM EDT
            Dog-3829722

            Wow prick in Vegas sounds like you and the wannabepatriot go camping together alot..

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            #2.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:01 PM EDT
            haggisbingo-2225582

            It's the J. Edgar Hoover syndrome or something. I especially suspect Perry suffers from this and Christine O'Donell too based on her weird reaction to the question on gay marriage..

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            #2.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:57 PM EDT
            CM-6969

            Shh, you're not supposed to reveal that until AFTER they've nominated Perry! Then we can dump that juicy scandal just before the election, and watch "Gods Own Party" freak out and write-in anybody else rather than vote for "one of them". The result, of course will be 4 more years...

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            #2.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:02 PM EDT
            Nitemare2

            Will one of you liberal motor mouths please explain when and why you became so obsessed with a sexual preference. Gay is not ethnic, It's not a religion, it's not a way of life. It's not a race. So what is it? It's a sexual preference. Just the same as pedophilia, or bestiality or polygamy. Just sent a guy to prison for that. So where is the difference? Oh wait I know it's because it's a liberal cause. The others aren't.

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            #2.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT
            LMarcT

            Nick named "Bubba Bush".

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            #2.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:24 PM EDT
            Doug Ponders

            Post #2 is about as believable as Larry Sinclair's statements.

            Liberals are desperately stupid.

            It is hilarious.

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            #2.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:35 PM EDT
            Mr. Anon

            Nitemare2 by that definition being straight is a "sexual preference" "Just the same as pedophillia, or bestiality or polygamy" (sic).

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            #2.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:37 PM EDT
            TellTheTruth-3736461

            The truth is that there are many democrats who are terrified of Perry. He could EASELY defeat Obama. It makes perfect sense that in order to protect the interests of their Liberal party, they feel the need to trash Perry. The problem is that they would prefer to DOOM the country into a financial ABYSS in order to save Obama in 2012. Sad truth about Liberal patriotism from the democrats! Save the democratic party and their Obama love at any cost! Letting the country continue to spend itself into a hole and be owned by the Chinese. If you love the great USA, if you love your freedom, don't be foolish, vote Perry!!!!

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            #2.12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:40 PM EDT
            Styro

            Nightmare, pedophilia is just plain wrong. Doesn't belong in the same category. Bestiality? Please. Like anyone would defend that. Stop with your slippery slope crap. There is no such thing as a slippery slope until you're driving in the Rockies during an ice storm.

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            #2.13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:44 PM EDT
            robmos-503301

            Rumors of his "preference" have been around for a long time. His "problem" isn't his preference but his inability to be HONEST about it. If he or anyone cant be honest about something so important, how will he about anything else? As a "Christian" don't you want to know his personal "ideals"... Realize that you also mention "polygamy" ....where are all you "Christians" that haven't spoken out about the Mormons? We all know its a cult ! But you pretend its an actual religeon and these Mormons are buying your votes....why is this now acceptable....YOU all have ridiculed the Mormon's like the Scientology.....Stop worrying about what I put in my mouth and worry about what comes out of YOURS!!

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            #2.14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 PM EDT
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            • 2 votes
            #3.13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:58 PM EDT

            OK, I am going to ask this question, because it is VERY important. Does ANYONE here support Rick Perry, particularly his position on Religion?

            • 5 votes
            #3.14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:00 PM EDT

            Or is he sticking to his controversy with his guns?

            Seriously, those who know Perry will tell you he will not compromise, budge, admit to error, etc. Sound familiar? Stay the course, shoot from the hip, Yosemite Sam, the "decider." In this time of polarization and the Teabaggers enabled by Republicans who see compromise as a dirty, why would anyone want this kind of person in the White House?

            • 14 votes
            #3.15 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:00 PM EDT

            Of course, Religious people have been a blessing for our country, George Washington, Abe Lincoln and many more who signed the constitution, the One nation where people are free to worship God. In God we trust! I am more concerned of secular humanists, they are the ones who would enslave your mind, rob you of any hope and take you and your family to the abyss, stripping the love of God from their hearts! The secular humanists are the ones you need to be scared of!

            • 6 votes
            #3.16 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:05 PM EDT

            First of all, read the first amendment. Second of all, Abe Lincoln was an atheist. Sorry about that. Third of all, your comment is such a large strawman. Come back in a few days, and present to me a real argument.

            • 9 votes
            #3.17 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:08 PM EDT

            No, Perry is not Mexican-American--he is part Choctaw Indian. This doesn't affect anything for me--his stances (literally and figuratively) are just wrong. He would not be better than Obama. He would take us backwards. Another candidate might be better than Obama, but not Perry.

            • 15 votes
            #3.18 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:08 PM EDT

            Tellthetruth: With a crop like these mental midgets on the republican field, you are worried about secular humanists???!! No wonder Republicans are begging ANY sane candidate to get into the field...

            • 11 votes
            #3.19 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:35 PM EDT

            @TellTheTruth-3736461

            Um, Ben Franklin was an atheist or at the very least a deist agnostic. Those forefathers put the country before their religion, that's a fact.

            Secular humanists want to take nothing from you but your ability to assert your view on others. Everything else is all yours.

            That you assert they enslave your mind is laughable. Religion enslaves, belief in mystical beings and actions, and more importantly, your beliefs in how they wish to be appeased is what normal, rational beings should be afraid of.

            That there 25+ current major religions on the planet and hundreds of mythos or past, the majority of which do not resemble each other in any shape or form attests to the falseness of your faith. That you presume your belief is somehow correct and true and the others false should set you off in a path of understanding. If you do not seek this path, you then seek simple comfort in the lies you have been indoctrinated with.

            Your faith is no more valid than any other. No Jaine, Sikh, Muslim, Jew, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Rastafarian, et al ever said anything to you to change your mind, guess who is the atheist to them? You.

            I just add your faith to the list.

            • 7 votes
            #3.20 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:27 PM EDT

            You should try telling the truth sometime - Texas doesn't have a balanced budget (no one knows exactly how large the deficit is yet, because of some very interesting accounting, but it could be as high as 30 billion), and has higher unemployment than NY.\

            Also Rick Perry seems to think his state either does or should teach creationism to it's students. Ron Paul said something similar. Can't vote in a guy like that, not again, Science already got it's nose bloodied under Bush II.

            • 4 votes
            #3.21 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:35 PM EDT

            bethie in texas, you make a good point!

            • 1 vote
            #3.22 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:54 PM EDT

            I think we need to see a copy of his birth certificate, like the TEA and GOP asked of Obama, even after he was in office. This guy won't even commit/apologise for his mistakes or words

            • 2 votes
            #3.23 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:57 PM EDT

            his religion is partly the reason i can't stand him. I would love to put my foot in his self rightous ass.

            • 8 votes
            #3.24 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:00 PM EDT

            Here's a clue on some of the problems Texas is facing visa vi the budget

            http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/19/news/economy/texas_budget_deficit/index.htm

            The spending plan calls for a 13% hit to public education and a 7.6% drop in higher education support. Among the cuts, funding for pre-K Early Start programs would be slashed, and four community colleges would be closed.

            • 1 vote
            #3.25 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:05 PM EDT

            "So state by state ought to be the way to do that, not by the federal government one size fits all."

            Of course he will say that - he is a Theocrat, once you look at it from a Theocrat's perspective it all makes sense. Theocrats need each State to gain an independent power base, its only in that way that Federal ties binding them together can be usurped. Once the latter is achieved, the US becomes a Theocratic State, thats the real end game. Throw away blind partisan politics, the latter is not the Game - Theocracy is and is whats driving all this with the extreme Christian Right.

            • 2 votes
            #3.26 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:25 AM EDT

            Hey Wolfpack, nice to see someone from the secular side admitting they let religion (or perhaps in your case, lack thereof) influence their politics. We all do it, but most like to pretend they're somehow above it.

            But you may just be making the right call here. It seems to me Perry brings out religion when it suits him, but ignores the implications of his beliefs when they don't suit him.

            Right now, I'm thinking of voting for Ron Paul. I'm not sure he's ready for prime time, but I agree with him on about half the issues, and he's the only one of the lot I'd trust to have a coherent philosophy and not to backpedal on all his promises the moment he got into office (like Obama has done). Actually, Bachman would probably stand up too, but I don't like where she's standing as well as Paul.

              #3.27 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:44 AM EDT

              Might want to consider what Theocratic values mean that do this to our children (anyone not seen it before watch the lot - it gets worse as it goes along - it is utterly revolting:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STDH14aJVk&feature=mh_lolz&list=FLK0Tz3pUPye0v3mSRYCK4mw

              Moderate Religious practices is absolutely fine, not a problem.

              What is a problem are the morons that will take a Religion - any, its happening with Christianity and Islam, then pervert it with literal translations which are translated into either Legislation, or wide ranging Policy. A Theocrat will push back on this yelling "attack on religion", actually its not, its a plea to defend moderate practitioners. At the same time its about highlighting what Theocracy actually means in practice - the perversion of moderate Faiths into disgusting practices that do that kind of thing to our children.

              It is wrong on so many levels, and cannot be defended or condoned by those who still wish to claim they are part of the human race.

              • 4 votes
              #3.28 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:21 AM EDT

              tell the truth... you haven't done your homework... please read non-partisan reviews of the "Texas Miracle". It isn't a miracle. They did better than others just before the recession due to huge oil prices. Once recession hit, they were in the same boat. Actually their unemployment is higher than most states (not quite as high as national, but close). You mention Texas better than liberal states... please compare MA... their unemployement rate is lower than Texas. Also Texas has the highest percent of uninsured AND have the largest percentage of minimum wage or LOWER wage than any state. If you want that kind of miracle.. then move to Texas.... I have staunch republican friends in Texas and they HATE Perry... if you don't have the big bucks... then you don't receive part of the "miracle"....

              • 3 votes
              #3.29 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:29 PM EDT

              And we didn’t even have to flip over any rocks, and still all the nut jobs still popped our.

              Perry, Bachman, and Paul.

                #3.30 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

                I'm sorry if I offended a congressman but the fact of the matter is I'm about representing the American people out here.

                =======================

                To use a rethugli-con word----Liar. You're for nobody but yourself and YOUR special interests. The sad thing is this and it effects all politicians: nobody makes a campaign contribution w/o wanting something in return. No one.

                These clowns the rethugli-cons are parading out there scare the hell out of most Americans. Eight years of an ex-TX governor being President is enough. I honestly thought it would take a long time to find a President more pathetic than bushie jr. However, Perry makes jr look half way good.

                • 2 votes
                #3.31 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:16 PM EDT

                Zydor, you have summed this up very well. But what I am worried about right now is not that - I am worried about the 6 people who up voted TelltheTruth. Hopefully they are just his sockpuppets, as the alternative is too scary.

                • 2 votes
                #3.32 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:36 PM EDT

                totellthetruth is probably just thinking of Mao and Stalin and Hitler and Pol Pot and Castro. Don't fault him, he's just going by what he knows as fact.

                  #3.33 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:14 PM EDT

                  passiveobserver

                  Having an age limit on a job is illegal. You can't discriminate against a person because of their age in any profession

                  try to go into the military when you are over 30 and see what happens.

                  • 2 votes
                  #3.34 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:58 PM EDT

                  Perry said S.S., & Medicare are unconstitutional and he voted for tax aid for the rich.

                  • 3 votes
                  #3.35 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:07 PM EDT

                  "ARE YOU HONESTLY DOING BETTER DURING Obama's presidency?"

                  Yes, thanks for asking. While I haven't had a raise since 2007, I can now cover my college-aged daughters for a reasonable price on health insurance, I refinanced my home mortgage to a very low rate, and except for the "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" on Wall Street following the debt ceiling circus, my 401Ks have recovered nicely from the crash of 2008.

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                  #3.36 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:04 AM EDT

                  try to go into the military when you are over 30 and see what happens.

                  Well done--you found an exception. So did I. My father joined the army in his mid 30s. Of course, there was a war on at the time, 1941. (Isn't there always?)

                  Having an age limitation on a job with severe physical demands might make sense. What does that have to do with the Presidency?

                    #3.37 - Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:51 PM EDT

                    92% of Americans believe in God, so if Perry believes in God 92% of the people have some degree of connection with him. Evolution & Intelligent Design are theories (key word theories), yet billions of dollars have been spent by the NEA & and other progressives trying to intimidate the youth into believing evolution is an absolute. 40% of Americans believe in strict Intelligent Design (Creationism), while 16% believe in strict evolution. Again, Perry’s beliefs line up with more Americans than those who disagree with him on these subjects.

                      #3.38 - Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:09 AM EDT

                      "Evolution & Intelligent Design are theories (key word theories)"

                      Do you understand the difference between a scientific theory and the common use of the word 'theory'? A scientific theory is an explanation of a set of facts based on observation, experiments, and reasoning, subject to peer review. There is NO scientific evidence of intelligent design or creationism (which are not exactly the same, btw) while there is ample scientific evidence that supports evolution. Creationism and intelligent design are opinions or beliefs, not scientific theories. See here for a better discussion: http://chem.tufts.edu/science/FrankSteiger/theory.htm

                      And just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it any more true. You realize that in Galileo's time 100% of people believed the sun revolved around the earth, right?

                        #3.39 - Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:14 PM EDT
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                        Why wouldn't Perry do so; the man is a crazed, religious fanatic, ideologue thinking the nation must conform to how he believes it must be.

                        No thanks, the country has seen enough results from the crazies.

                        • 33 votes
                        #4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:50 PM EDT
                        Comment author avatarJamesDouglasMorrisonExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        You're right, there are far too many lunatic leftists in the world destroying every country they get their vile hands on.

                        • 9 votes
                        #4.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:44 PM EDT

                        It's been pointed out how Republicans have a talent for seeming to be the only option when it comes to religious belief, or national security, and how Dems are "tax and spend," and even "evil" -- Completely false, even the other way around, but the GOP (starting with Reagan) has been better at messaging.

                        Dems are so careful regarding Separation of Church and State, which in reality applies most of all to government support for only one religion (i.e., Christianity the way Perry's Prayer Meeting was), but does not mean that the Dems cannot talk about their faith--maybe they should more. At least the Dems would do it in a more reverent and meaningful way, concern for the poor, taking care of the Earth, being accepting, etc.

                        • 28 votes
                        #4.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:58 PM EDT
                        Comment author avatarG.C.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Perry recognizes that you have a mind of your own and he doesn't use media to convince you to see things his way. You decide! No one is forcing you to believe anything, it is your choice.

                        • 8 votes
                        #4.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:03 PM EDT
                        Comment author avatarDog-3829722Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        LMAO wannbepatriot.. WOW your in your little liberal shell.. Liberals are loyal to NOTHING, everything they stand for is what is convient at that moment.. Don't tell it like it is, lets color everything so it sounds pretty. It used to be hard work was the norm, now it is the exception... Find your vegas friend & go camping

                        • 9 votes
                        #4.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:04 PM EDT

                        james - you along with many seeming to think like you always believe those disagreeing are "liberal and leftist".

                        Bad news for you all; a right of center Independent and guess what it will take in any national election.

                        G.C. Good, then tell Perry make his whacko remarks in front of those that care to "follow" him and not in front of the cameras. Then there can be no complaining on how he is being characterized.

                        Dog - Some observation given the stand by those like the Tea Party demanding that over 3 billion in tax cuts and loopholes must be protected. Those breaks on our dime BTW. Then again, no guessing on what sector they are looking out after.

                        • 17 votes
                        #4.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:47 PM EDT

                        G.C. - "Perry recognizes that you have a mind of your own and he doesn't use media to convince you to see things his way."

                        So I have a mind of my own BUT he needs me to see things his way to govern?

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                        Dog - "Liberals are loyal to NOTHING, everything they stand for is what is convient at that moment.. Don't tell it like it is, lets color everything so it sounds pretty. It used to be hard work was the norm, now it is the exception.."

                        So if Republicans are so admirably loyal to their ideology what happened to fiscal conservatism over the last 30 years? Why is it that every conservative-inspired idea that Obama adopts (like the DREAM Act or individual mandate for universal healthcare) Republicans turn their backs on and disavow; it that not, too, politically convenient?

                        • 17 votes
                        #4.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

                        Dog,

                        Yeah, like how Republicans are so fiscally conservative, what with lowering taxes while fighting two wars and starting an expensive prescription drug program. Like how Bush campaigned on being against "nation building," and how the GOP in 2008 said "Finish the Job in Iraq and Afghanistan" while now they say "Obama is evil for not bringing the troops home!"

                        There is nothing flightier than a Republican, because when push comes to shove, if Obama supports it, regardless of how conservative it is (4 trillion in cuts and Boehner said NO), the GOP will fight it because their only goal is to make him a one-term president. McConnel has stated that almost verbatum.

                        • 19 votes
                        #4.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:56 PM EDT

                        True Patriot--I agree with you. I think lots of Dems are people of faith, but we are tolerant of others' faiths, so we don't go around pushing ours on others. I detest it when folks like "Dog" above assume they know what "liberals" believe. We are indeed a diverse group, difficult to pigeon-hole, which drives people like him nuts.

                        My main issues are education, health care, and the environment. Perry's record on all three of these issues is dismal. Jobs are great, but what good is a job if you're sick and can't afford medical treatment? When I heard a local pastor say--from the pulpit no less--"health care is a privilege, not a right", I wonder if I truly share the same values with him.

                        • 14 votes
                        #4.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:58 PM EDT

                        I am neither republican or democrat.. I vote for who I truely believe is trying to do what is best for our country, nor more & no less. I live in Washington state and vote for Patti Murray everytime she runs. why? She stands by the Veterans that gave so much already. On the other side, I vote for David Reicher when he runs. why? he gets out and is trying to make a difference also.

                        I do lean more right then left, but not way right. I have my opinon on abortion, but it is not my place to tell any woman what they can or can't do with their bodies. I do have one question. If (as the left says) it is a choice not a life. Then why, if a pregnant is murdered, is it called a double homicide? Either it is a life or it isn't, can't be both ways.

                        • 5 votes
                        #4.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:59 PM EDT

                        Hey don't you remember Obama has had 2 dinners in the White House celebrating the Muslim religious holiday of Ramadan. So he shows he believes in religion.

                        • 3 votes
                        #4.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:28 PM EDT

                        The nut c ases never end!

                        • 7 votes
                        #4.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:30 PM EDT

                        Nitemare, cite your sources.

                        • 4 votes
                        #4.12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:38 PM EDT

                        Nitemare2, see following:

                        "The dinner follows in the tradition of former President George W. Bush, who held eight Ramadan dinners in office to stress that America’s war with violent extremists was not a war with Islam. ... "

                        Goose/gander?

                        • 8 votes
                        #4.13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 PM EDT
                        Comment author avatarDoug PondersExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        http://www.voanews.com/policy/editorials/President-Obama-Celebrates-Iftar-127758483.html

                        Aside from having a dinner celebrating Ramadan; the kooks on the left conveniently overlook the fact that Obama claims to be Christian in a roundabout way. Funny how his radical religious past is never brought up.

                        Personally, I think he worships the highest bidder.

                        • 5 votes
                        #4.14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:58 PM EDT

                        Scared of Perry???? Are you better off with Obama? I know your answer, Its NO! We are not! I don't mind people with religion, George Washington and Abe Lincoln did, so does Perry! Do you have a problem with God? Take it up with God, maybe if you are willing, he can fix you! Texas under Perry= Success. USA under Obama= failure! I want to give Perry a chance. He can and will do better!!!

                        • 7 votes
                        #4.15 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:00 PM EDT

                        Tellthetruth Did the govenor get it to rain yet in Texas

                        • 10 votes
                        #4.16 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:24 PM EDT

                        Tellthetruth: Yes, I am better off with Obama. After two terms of the worst presidency in modern history (that'd be Bush), America will climb out of the hole he left us in. The last thing we need is a bible toting imbecile from Texas...and his hallelujah chorus that would love to turn America into a theocracy. As to his supposed "jobs" record...almost 75% of the jobs created in Texas over the last decade have been by the FEDERAL government...Texas has the lowest level of high school graduates in the nation AND the lowest level of college graduates. No thanks. This is not the candidate for the future of America.

                        • 12 votes
                        #4.17 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:40 PM EDT

                        Who doesn't LOVE the Patriotic tea baggin phony azzholes who can't stand the truth - so they attempt to silence it by collapsing comments...

                        What are YOU all so afraid of - other then the TRUTH?

                        Good LUCK with that...

                        • 7 votes
                        #4.18 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:39 PM EDT

                        Then why, if a pregnant is murdered, is it called a double homicide? Either it is a life or it isn't, can't be both ways.

                        I'm sorry, do you think that liberals get to write all the laws? What you describe isn't even a Federal statute, it's done state by state, and it usually appears in states that are already antagonistic towards abortion. So we're not trying to have it both ways. The only way I would personally support a law like that was if a- it only applied for pregnancies beyond the primary limit for abortions, or B- the assault/murder was done intentionally to terminate the pregnancy against the will of the mother. That should be (and is) a crime in and of itself.

                        • 4 votes
                        #4.19 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:44 PM EDT

                        Excellent, Tripps.

                        Why is it that the people screaming the loudest against government involvement in our lives are the same ones screaming for government to intervene in pregnancy?

                        Hypocritical Bastards.

                        • 5 votes
                        #4.20 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:47 AM EDT

                        What you describe isn't even a Federal statute, it's done state by state, and it usually appears in states that are already antagonistic towards abortion.

                        California is antagonistic towards abortion and liberals?

                        It must hurt to be so obtuse.

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.21 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:26 PM EDT

                        Feisty Redhead on the noodle like the D**K on a poodle. What truth do you have in your pathetic little liberal mind? hmmmmm?? Liberals are all about what is convient at that moment, nor more & much less.

                        • 1 vote
                        #4.22 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:57 PM EDT

                        I guess the term usually just drove by you, huh?

                        California has it because of Scott Peterson.

                          #4.23 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:48 AM EDT

                          No it doesn't you @!$%#ing idiot. California already had a law against the killing of the unborn. Which is why Scott Peterson was charged with it.

                          But don't let facts get int the way of your idiocy, you @!$%#ing idiot.

                            #4.24 - Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:58 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            I know this is off-subject, but...

                            They're Not All Crazy

                            Jon Huntsman will appear in a taped interview with Piers Morgan Monday night. I found the following interesting:

                            Considering the impact of the nation's economy on world markets, the 2012 GOP presidential candidate said he couldn't fathom how Republican colleagues discussed the possibility of defaulting on the country's debt during the heated debate surrounding whether the borrowing limit should be increased.

                            "I thought it was the height of irresponsibility," he said.

                            "We're 25 percent of the world's GDP. The United States of America that has never defaulted before—just let it go over a cliff—you can imagine what the marketplace would have done in response," Huntsman continued.

                            "The marketplace is trashing everybody right now, assets are underwater…you can only imagine what this country would look like today if we had defaulted. It was complete lunacy for people to even talk about that."

                            Sadly, the Teapublicans are going to destroy him for his dissent.

                            politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/19/huntsman-decries-debt-debate-lunacy/

                            • 22 votes
                            Reply#5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:53 PM EDT

                            Da Noid, Huntsman sound likes reasonable person with good mind. The republicans are doubling down on "Crazy" candidates. Even Bank of America executive is telling Perry don't worry we got some PAC money for you...

                            • 15 votes
                            #5.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:52 PM EDT

                            "Huntsman sounds like a reasonable person with a good mind" ... that's exactly why he won't get the nomination. The tea baggers will only nominate a dogmatic candidate who doesn't understand that the world is not a black-and-white place.

                            • 19 votes
                            #5.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:21 PM EDT

                            Da Noid, Huntsman sound likes reasonable person with good mind.

                            Which means he doesn't stand a chance...

                            Being of sound mind will get you NO where near the nomination this time around...

                            *shakes head*

                            • 23 votes
                            #5.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:24 PM EDT

                            So Fiesty, if I understand your argument that being a reasonable person prevents
                            one from getting the nomination it would follow that, only using our current
                            President for illustration, but you can feel free to substitute any nominee:

                            Obama was elected because he was nominated

                            Obama is not a reasonable person because he was nominated

                            Or is there some qualification that would enlarge the circle to include a person's
                            candidate of choice, and if so, what is it? Who decides what those exceptions?
                            And wouldn't it then follow that you should be unwilling to support Obama (or
                            again feel free to substitute any nominee). I only raise the point hoping that
                            people will pay more attention to issues and search for the truth.

                            • 3 votes
                            #5.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:55 PM EDT

                            Huntsman did a good job out here in Utah as governor. He's a competent guy. I think it will be a miracle if he gets the republican nomination. Republicans these days are all about ideology not things that actually work.

                            • 5 votes
                            #5.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:20 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            You're a nobody, Perry.

                            Did you see the results of the Iowa straw poll?

                            The gig is up, Republicans. Boy, it feels dirty capitalizing that word now after the last 20 years.

                            • 13 votes
                            Reply#6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:55 PM EDT

                            I dislike Perry greatly, but that's not really fair. Perry wasn't even listed on the ballot, and he didn't campaign in Iowa at all beforehand, and he still beat a lot of other candidates just from write-ins.

                            • 1 vote
                            #6.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:02 PM EDT

                            perry got votes from the colbert listing as parry.

                            also remember bank of America-we'll help you out rick!

                            • 4 votes
                            #6.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:51 PM EDT

                            The Iowa straw poll is about as useful as the candidates who participated. The media blows it up. It is a joke. Kind of like preseason football. No impact on the eventual outcome. The caucuses there are relatively inconsequential as well.

                            • 1 vote
                            #6.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:57 PM EDT

                            Perry is a lot more of a somebody than many who make distructive comments out of cowardly fear! Are you better off with Obama? Are you? We all know, you are NOT! Vote Perry, Texas is doing good in spite of the national economic crisis, give it to the people in the state, their conservative policies and to the governor, Rick Perry, Vote Perry!

                            • 4 votes
                            #6.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:11 PM EDT

                            Why yes, I am better off with obama. Science is still taught in America, the Bush wars are at long last beginning to wind down, and we've come back from the brink of a depression despite the far right wing party of no working against America at every turn. Perry will not win the nomination (outside of the extremists, his positions are actually understood to be extreme.)

                            • 7 votes
                            #6.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:44 PM EDT

                            Hey! The Iowa straw poll proved that Bachman could recieve 80% of the 6000 votes she bought. Now if she could buy 50 million votes, she will get 40 million of those. Go Babs.

                            • 2 votes
                            #6.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:35 PM EDT

                            TellTheTruth,

                            People keep answering you but you keep asking the same question. Yes I'm better off. Easily. My only complaint with Obama is that he's too conservative. But no one's perfect.

                            • 2 votes
                            #6.7 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:58 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            Rick Perry struts on stage like "Cool hand Luke" but when he opens his mouth, he's "Hot Head Rick"

                            Shouldn't a President think before he talks?

                            • 21 votes
                            Reply#7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:58 PM EDT

                            So you're saying that what we have here is failure to communicate, yes?

                            • 6 votes
                            #7.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

                            Rick struts around because Harold Simmons throws money hand over fist to make him feel like GOD. The reason is, Perry okays all of Simmons dirty work, such as building a radioactive waste dump over a crucial underground water supply.

                            • 10 votes
                            #7.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:42 PM EDT

                            Shouldn't a President think before he talks?

                            I guess Rick needs to borrow Obama's telepromter LOL

                            • 4 votes
                            #7.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT

                            Wow it's not the Koch Bros? Some new person pulling the strings and spreading money? Wow kind of like Soros and Lewis. And Buffet. do for the Liberals. Marta your a frigging hypocrite

                            • 3 votes
                            #7.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:34 PM EDT

                            Nitemare2, that's "you're"not your. Simple things make a big impression.

                            • 2 votes
                            #7.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:59 PM EDT

                            Lee, I am a Texan and I can tell you for a fact that Rick Perry is a fraud and a liar. He railed against the stimulus yet, he sure put his hand out for the money. He lambasted the President for not giving aid during the wildfires yet, The Government gave funding several times. He brags about the jobs that he has created yet, 95% of those jobs were created by the stimulus and are Government jobs, 5% are in the private sector. He bragged that he had rebuked the President yet, he never really had a conversation with him. Texas ranks at near the bottom in healthcare and education compared to other States. in the last election Gov. Perry won with 39% of the vote because, it was a three way race. He attended the Bilderberg Group meeting in Istanbul, Turkey and he should have been investigated for violating the Logan act. His college transcript from Texas A&M clearly shows that he is a solid C-D student, he received a D in economics. When compared to Bush, Bush is considered the smart one. I am a Texan, I love my State, this idiot is all hat and no cattle. I seriously doubt that he could even carry his own State in the primaries. Look before you leap, this sorry excuse for a Texan is not the answer.

                            • 6 votes
                            #7.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:18 PM EDT

                            Be a little more important for reporters to print what was said, not their twisted version of it.

                            This is the second time Carrie Dunn deliberately twisted what Perry said about the Fed.

                            His statement was to the effect of, IF Bernanke increased the money supply, FOR THE PURPOSE of getting Obama reelected, it could be seen as treacherous- might even be called treasonous.

                            This is a "professional journalist"?

                            Nope. This is an Obama paid propagandist.

                            Please, do, keep showing your overt bias, even to the extent of deliberately misstating what an Obama opponent says. It makes it a lot easier for the electorate to ignore any and all of your other reporting.

                            This country is dealing with the consequences of electing the inexperienced, inept, narcissistic man with whom you are all besotted. He's failed- in every single area, he's failed.

                            Since you can no longer create a cloud of euphoria to waft him into a second term, you will use every underhanded tactic at your disposal to destroy his opponents.

                            That would seem to include outright lying.

                            Would not that be covered in Journalism 101?

                            • 3 votes
                            #7.7 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:38 AM EDT

                            "Treason" has a very definite meaning - "Giving aid and comfort to the enemy". So, is Obama "the enemy?" It seems that some portion of the people commenting on this story believe that he is, but he is the president of EVERYONE, whether you agree with him and his policies or not. Governor Perry's remark is an example of the incivility rampant in today's politics. I predict that many citizens will not vote at all in 2012, because they are dissatisfied with President Obama's results, yet cannot bring themselves to vote for whichever of the incompetent nominees the Republicans seems to be leaning towards.

                            • 1 vote
                            #7.8 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:26 AM EDT
                            Reply

                            The teapartiers' rabid love of Rick Perry. Watch out for their bite, it's worse than their bark. Rear up, rear back and sick the dogs on America, sick em wild and loose, with heavy women in town hall meetings with their backs to the camera. Go America! Run for the hills, my dear brethren.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

                            So what is Obama's GPA? Oh thats right he has a right to privacy..... funny thing this double standard....

                            • 6 votes
                            #8.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:36 PM EDT

                            One and Done for the campaigner in chief

                            • 4 votes
                            #8.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:07 PM EDT

                            Perry = candidate of scared, ignorant, racist, white people

                            Tea Party = neo-nazis 2.0 (they've re-invented themselves for a new era!)

                            • 10 votes
                            #8.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:01 PM EDT

                            4 trillion in overspending is ALL GREEN race has nothing to do with it.

                            O = epic fail

                            • 4 votes
                            #8.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:34 PM EDT

                            Where do you get $4 trillion in overspending? The estimated deficit for 2011 is $1.1 trillion. 40% is directly related too Bush policies and another 12% to the financial rescues which Bush started and Obama continued. Much is related to obligations long part of US law, which the president is obligated to pay. Scary how little understanding there is of this, especially from conservatives who's party created the largest portion of the debt starting with Reagan, and are the ones who famously spouted deficits are meaningless. They were until a Democrat, and a black one at that, took office.

                            • 6 votes
                            #8.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:04 PM EDT

                            @tony, in case you didn't know, the President was graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard, You can not have that distinction with bad grades. He was also the President of the Harvard Law review. These are honors that cannot be bought. Let us compare this to the trascripts of Rick Perry at Texas A & M. A solid C-D student with a D in economics. He probably did well as "yell" leader.

                            • 3 votes
                            #8.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:23 PM EDT

                            To bmerbob sorry but it's more closer to about 2.5 trillion you are right every one blames the one in power perhaps because of his color I would hope not. He inherited this mess and in the short time in office he seems to be doing something about it. This mess took Bush Jr. 2 Terms to make this one has only one Term and I think he is doing ok. With the Idoits running in this race my vote is smiple keep the one in office in office. Thanks

                            • 2 votes
                            #8.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:43 PM EDT

                            fayse, I guess you also "bought" into shovel ready and recovery summer....Too bad Obama is not as open as Perry, wouldn't you say? I know a bunch of brilliant people who have zero common sense and no ability to implement what they studied and mastered in a book. From all indications Obama fits that bill. No doubt Obama is a smart guy. Unfortunately he is not a President or a leader. He is out for social justice period. Presidents needs to represent all Americans, Obama takes sides.

                            • 1 vote
                            #8.8 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:03 AM EDT

                            1. Where do you get $4 trillion in overspending?

                            2. The estimated deficit for 2011 is $1.1 trillion.

                            3. 40% is directly related too Bush policies and another 12% to the financial rescues which Bush started and Obama continued.

                            1. my bad its standing at 3.98 Trillion but by tomorrow should hit 4 Trillion

                            2. Already at 640 billion and this is low since the Debt sat at 14.34T since April to Aug. due to the debt ceiling otherwise your 1.1 est would be 1.6T instead

                            3. Another Liberal blame it all on Bush but TARP as you pointed to was 350 Billion which was PAID BACK + 50 Billion in PROFIT so Obama not only has a 3.98T in debt but tack on another 400 billion spent from TARP money

                            either way Obama must go the DEMs had too much power and people like Franks and Waters are just nut jobs who help put the USA housing market in the toilet. Hell, Obama with a super majority didn't even bother to pass a budget while running up the debt 3.5 Trillion his first 24 months in office.

                              #8.9 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:44 PM EDT

                              "Hell, Obama with a super majority didn't even bother to pass a budget while running up the debt 3.5 Trillion his first 24 months in office."

                              This is just flat FALSE. First, there was a supermajority in the Senate only, and for only 4 non-consecutive months. During every other month of those 'first 24' Republicans used the threat of the filibuster to block all legislation and hold hostage things like unemployment benefits to get what they wanted (like extension of the Bush tax cuts for even the wealthiest). Second, the President doesn't 'pass' the budget. He proposes a budget, and Obama has done so EVERY February of EVERY year he's been in office as he is required to. After that, it's up to Congress. Yes, we know you hate Obama, but don't make stuff up about why at least.

                                #8.10 - Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:49 AM EDT

                                Do you really believe Obama could shove "pass now, read later" ObamaCare down our throats and not pass a budget??

                                It takes 41 for a filibuster not 24 ,, Reps if they threatened would be an empty threat.

                                For being a great community organizer having no budget for 2yrs is unacceptable.

                                I don't hate Obama, I even wished him to do whats right when he took office, but him and the liberals have done a piss poor job and its POTUS election time and he will be the first to go.

                                  #8.11 - Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:29 AM EDT

                                  "It takes 41 for a filibuster not 24 ,,"

                                  Duh. YOU stated that he didn't have a budget for the 'first 24' months of his presidency, which is incorrect.

                                  "For being a great community organizer having no budget for 2yrs is unacceptable."

                                  Again, you must not have a good grasp of how our government works, if you think Obama can just pass a budget. He has made a budget proposal every year he's been in office.

                                    #8.12 - Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:20 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Rick Perry="W" 2.0 which, coincidentally, equals their college G.P.A's. Both are dumber than West Texas dirt!  Perry is Bush minus the personality and compassion.  If George H.W. Bush and Dick Cheney had a love child, the result would be Rick Perry.

                                    • 23 votes
                                    Reply#9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:13 PM EDT

                                    It is not only George W. that he is chanelling but also George C. Wallace (governor, southern populist and states' rights defender ....)

                                    • 14 votes
                                    #9.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:09 PM EDT

                                    Kate, thanks for that connection. haven't thought about old George Wallace for years.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #9.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:19 PM EDT

                                    Wallace was a democrat.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #9.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:07 PM EDT

                                    So was Gov. Perry...he just lived longer and saw where he fit in best.

                                    • 12 votes
                                    #9.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:14 PM EDT

                                    Everyone in the south was a Democrat until the Democrats forced them to integrate racially. The south's Republican beginnings were, interestingly enough, not based on fiscal conservatism or policies, but racial hatred.

                                    • 12 votes
                                    #9.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:06 PM EDT

                                    passive what history book are you reading? Lincoln was a Republican. Ike Eisenhower was the next President to start civil rights. And LBJ was forced to only after JFK started the civil rights bill. Following the Ike outline. And if you get right JFK would not be supported by the Dems of today. He believed in tax cuts and less govt. He believed in people doing for themselves. What about the great late Sen Byrd who was a KKK Grand Wizard?

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #9.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:45 PM EDT

                                    The Republican and Democratic stances have shifted 180 degrees since the days of Lincoln. The Repubs were much more liberal in the 1800's and the dems conservative. The dems were the conservatives in favor of slavery and states rights. The repubs were much more on the socialist side in those days.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #9.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:18 PM EDT

                                    You are very very wrong about LBJ. Civil rights was his big thing. In fact, he was concerned because he wanted his legacy to be about civil rights and thought the Vietnam War would overshadow all that.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #9.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:48 PM EDT

                                    Jon. don't forget that it was Karl Rove that convinced Perry to switch Parties and to move to the side of the Republican. Karl Rove has had a hand in each of the elections that Perry has been part of. The last election, Perry won with 39% of the vote. I suspect that Kinky Friedmann was a shill to divide the votes. Perry has many skeletons in his "closet". I am a Texan and I would never vote for him for anything. He has been shoved down our throats by people that have taken advantage of our rural and undereducated population. Check out the standing of Texas in the ranking of education as compared to the rest of the USA.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #9.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:29 PM EDT

                                    @nightmare2,,, patriotobserver does not have to rely on history books, many of us had first hand knowledge and memories of what happened in the 60's. LBJ knew very well that, when he signed the civil rights act that, the "South would be changed overnight to Republican for a generation" because of racial hatred. And, sadly, he was not wrong. To this day, you can drive to South Texas and see the most hateful roadside signs that are just unbelievable. Forty years later don't you think that we, as a society, should we not have evolved as part of the human race.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #9.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:49 PM EDT

                                    To jon the 2.0 gpa u are adding both of them togeather right if not you should and don't insult texas dirt it's smatter than both of them. Also to fayse I'm a Tenn. country boy and your right Texas is 47th over all highest dropout in amercia even from the hills of Tenn. I'm not dum enough to vote for perry.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #9.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:54 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Rick Perry="W" 2.0 which, coincidentally, equals their college G.P.A's. Both are dumber than West Texas dirt! Perry is Bush minus the personality and compassion. If Dick Cheney and Barbara Bush had a love child, the result would be Rick Perry.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:15 PM EDT

                                    Jon, sorry but, I just can't let this go by without making my usual statement. George W Bush is NOT a Texan, he was born in Connecticut. His parents are from Maine. They are carpetbaggers. I for one, wish that they had stayed up North. The reputation of Texas has suffered because of this jerk and now we have another idiot that, sad to have to say, Perry is acutally a Texan, and a stupid one at that.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #10.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:53 PM EDT

                                    To fayse then we should deport Bush Jr. back to maine I heard they ran them out of maine D. Yankees I'm from Tenn. And perry is an Idoit we had an idoit for a gov. you maynot remember name Ray Blanton

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #10.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:04 PM EDT

                                    Perry wants to seceed? Only if he takes Iowa and Arizona with him.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #10.3 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:30 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    I think he honestly believes helicopter ben is a traitor to his country. Hehehe, He just doesn't know ben's job description. And he says he likes the constitution but wants to change it in soooo many shocking ways. Doing away with tax collection? Lots of states rights issues.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:16 PM EDT

                                    Just what we need, another bellicose (Fed comments), anti-science(evolution and climate change comments) politician.

                                    What an embarrassment.

                                    Maybe he should pray for some brains.

                                    I might have to refer to him as the "scarecrow" of the GOP - as in the Wizard of Oz scarecrow.

                                    • 19 votes
                                    Reply#12 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:17 PM EDT

                                    The mythical global warming ‘consensus’ continues to crumble as top UN IPCC Scientists Turn on the IPCC and are now bailing-out of the AGW sinking ship...

                                    1. Dr. Kiminori Itoh, - Award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist, founding director of the International Arctic Research Center, twice named one of the "1,000 Most Cited Scientists," says much "Arctic warming during the last half of the last century is due to natural change."

                                    He writes of “inaccurate temperature measurements,” including chapters that call man-made global warming fears “the worst scientific scandal in the history” in his book 'Lies and Traps in the Global Warming Affairs'.

                                    2. Dr. Denis Rancourt,- A former Anthropogenic (man-made) Global Warming (AGW) advocate, professor and peer-reviewed environmental science researcher at the University of Ottawa. Physicist Dr. Denis Rancourt, has officially renounced AGW in a June 8, 2010 essay, saying it is nothing more than a contrived imaginery ”myth” — in other words, an elaborate conspiracy. (Rancourt’s e-mail: claude.cde@gmail.com)

                                    3. Dr. Judith Curry, -An American climatologist and chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Has been making critical statements about the IPCC and climate science, after working for & with the IPCC for almost a decade. See her heretic piece http://judithcurry.com/2010/10/25/heresy-and-the-creation-of-monsters/

                                    4. Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski,- is chairman of the Scientific Council of the Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection in Warsaw and former chair of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (1981–82). Dr. Jaworowski--world-renowned expert on the ancient ice cores used in climate research--says the U.N. "based its global-warming hypothesis on arbitrary assumptions and these assumptions, it is now clear, are false."

                                    He has published more than 20 papers on climate, most of them concerning atmospheric CO2. One of the latest - Solar cycles, not CO2, determine climate, 21st Century Science and Technology.

                                    5. Dr. Antonino Zichichi, - One of the world's foremost physicists, former president of the European Physical Society, who discovered nuclear antimatter--calls global warming models "incoherent and invalid."

                                    6. Dr. Richard Lindzen, - Professor of Meteorology at M.I.T., member, the National Research Council Board on Atmospheric Sciences and Climate, says global warming alarmists "are trumpeting catastrophes that couldn't happen even if the models were right."

                                    7. Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu, - (Professor Emeritus, University of Alaska) professor of geophysics since 1964. Dr. Akasofu has published more than 550 professional journal articles, authored and co-authored 10 books. He sincerely advises us‚ ‘When people come to know what the truth is about AGW, they will feel deceived by science and the scientist involved.'

                                    For a book containing the hundreds of other prominent scientist that deny the AGW myth.. see http://yhst-7134682615375.stores.yahoo.net/the-deniers-the-world-renowned-scientists-who-stood-up-against-global.html

                                    The ONLY settled science is - The Earth CHANGES, man can either ADAPT or become EXTINCT...

                                    Energy conservation and minimal environmental impart, should be the GOAL of EVERY HUMAN...

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #12.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:59 PM EDT

                                    Serious, it gets even more frightening, please google Perry's college transcripts from A & M. Solid C - D student. He got a D in economics, who would have guessed that?

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #12.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:55 PM EDT

                                    To serious please don't insult the scarecrow he had more brain's than perry. Thank You To fayse his transcripts read the same as Bush Jr. go figure.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #12.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:09 PM EDT

                                    Good info. Google Obama's transcripts.....oh you can't do that.....

                                    Again, no doubt Obama can master a book. But has zero skill when it comes to leading a nation and representing all Americans.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #12.4 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT

                                    Tony,

                                    So you honestly think that Perry represents ALL Americans, or even the majority of them? You think more Americans relate to him, then to Obama? Really?

                                    This is what I find soooo flipping frustrating about neo-cons, or whatever you guys call yourselves. Your inability to see anything, but what YOU want to see. Fundementalists, and those who don't believe in science, are not the majority in this country. Nor are any of you more, or less, patriotic then any other party.

                                    You wave your flags and thump your Bibles, all while having your fingers in your ears. Listen up! Idealogues are the greatest danger to this country, way more so then Muslims, Mexicans, Gays, Socialists, or Scientists.

                                    Perry does not, in any way, shape, or form, represent me, or anyone else I know.

                                    Obama, may not represent everyone, but at least he understands that and works to compromise.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #12.5 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:43 PM EDT
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                                    And to me, climate change should be a religious issue because soooo many animals, plants, & sea life are going the way dinosaur. Take animals, they need to move 15 miles each year nowadays or die. But how many will move? Half will be gop animals & refuse to believe.

                                    But you what perry would say. That scientists are being paid to say those things about animals needing to move or die. That the data is falsified. Hehehe. But the very first people who noticed the fact that animals were moving were armature birders during the christmas bird counts that go back over 115 years. The very first reports of animal movements each year came from the ten of thousands of christmas birder counters.

                                    But i tell sooo many animals die because some are gop animals and don't believe the need to move and die. Others are progressive animals and move but are unable to adjust to the new environments and die. Only the select few animals who move survive the move. So after a while the numbers of animals go further and further down. Not a problem until you think of their creator and how the creator must be pissed to see all these creations dying off.

                                    And hey, perry doesn't have to worry either unless the creator of the animals is the same creator who created him. Then there might be an issue.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    Reply#13 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:31 PM EDT

                                    Interesting that liberals have forgotten this arrogant statement by Obama:

                                    "If I can't fix the economy in 3 years I don't deserve a second term." by Obama. Can you say back pedal.....

                                    or this one...."The Republicans can come along for the ride as I make everything great again, but they have to ride in the back seat." Oh but now, it is compromise time.......and blame time as always....

                                    • 4 votes
                                    Reply#14 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

                                    Tony, the article isn't about Obama. It's about Rick Perry and the comments he's made. Why does it shock you that the rest of us are discussing what the article is about?

                                    If he's going to run for President and want our votes, then we certainly have the right to consider what he says, don't you think????

                                    • 19 votes
                                    #14.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:38 PM EDT

                                    I agree. The title is Perry sticks to his guns on comments he makes....Think Obama will do the same? See my point?

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #14.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:58 PM EDT

                                    Tony C, OK, so Perry is a stubborn anti-science, states rights defender, candidate.

                                    It still makes him crazy.

                                    • 12 votes
                                    #14.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:25 PM EDT

                                    Sticking to your guns when the facts imply that you are wrong is not wise.

                                    Being able to change your mind when the data indicates you should is far wiser.

                                    • 16 votes
                                    #14.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:29 PM EDT

                                    Interesting. When this done by a Republican it is called flip floping.

                                    Given 3 years of failed economic policy by Obama. Do you really believe he will admit he was wrong or just keep blaming and making excuses.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #14.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:59 PM EDT

                                    The liberals will never do a story on Obama. By the way his "jobs" campaign bus was built in Canada.

                                    Hope and Change....really??

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #14.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:10 PM EDT

                                    Tony Einstein Obama hasn't been president for three years yet! Can you say COUNT...I think ya can.

                                    Feb. 2009-Aug.2011

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #14.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:37 PM EDT

                                    Tony given the fact you can't count then how can your opinion on the economy be worth anything?

                                    After all Obama's policy wasn't in place until after June 2010 so he has had about one year to straighten out what Bush screwed up in eight! Perhaps you could go back to an eighth-grade math class so you can learn to stand up for a principle and sit in your own chair!

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #14.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:43 PM EDT

                                    Tony c this is about perry, and Obama said that before a bunch of dummies elected a bunch of new dummies into control of congress...anyway , why do you hate Obama so much he is just continuing all the same expensive failed wars , stupid corporate welfare tax cuts, debt ceiling increases and cuts to social security and medicare that bush did. and he actually started another stupid war. You guys should love him. Obamacare will get shot down by the supreme court..so in in all he has done nothing......he is just like"four more years of W".

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #14.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:03 PM EDT

                                    as bus from canada omg! ! ! a bus. hmmm I saw a bus with a Rick Scott campaign slogan on it in SC hmm ..Perrys! where is it from? maybe its illegal and from mexico, but its little buses still get in state tuition, even when other legal american little buses from other states have to pay more tuition than little buses that have illegal parents, amazin!.aaaand very fair. Perry is the bestus!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #14.10 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:13 PM EDT

                                    Half info again. The bus was built in Canada. It was also built by the same company that built the bus Bush used in his campaigns. It so happens that the company from Canada was the only one that could meet the specs for the bus since it has to support a lot of extra weight to carry all the equipment used for communications and security. By he way, the bus has a counterpart, which will be used by the eventual GOP nominee. So it's the US government's bus, not Obama's. Incumbency has it's privileges, always has and always will.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #14.11 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:24 PM EDT

                                    Seems the excuses are a liberal trait. By the way, Obama has been in office close to 3 years. When it is actually 3 years, things will be worse.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #14.12 - Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:11 AM EDT

                                    Yep, Perry used the wrong words....Obama uses the wrong policies......yet the focus is on Perry.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #14.13 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:10 AM EDT

                                    Why wouldn't we focus on Perry, he wants Obama's job.

                                      #14.14 - Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:46 AM EDT
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                                      He can't speak American English. He talks jobs, stating that HE generated 75,000 jobs in Texas. Well, here are the figures: 115,000 government jobs created - 40,000 private industry jobs left the state= 75,000. He certainly is creative, if nothing else. Telling people to pray for rain; how about making sure people conserve water? In one Texas town they use 6,300 gallons a week for the local high school football field while livestock die in fields. The kids might miss the football, but conservation will teach them what they need to know for the future.

                                      • 16 votes
                                      Reply#15 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:37 PM EDT

                                      Don't forget about the little town of Big Spring, TX next year they will have the "technology" in place to convert BLACK water into drinking water.

                                        #15.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:01 PM EDT
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                                        Wow, Thats some headway, Drawing crowds of over 450 braindead idiots,,,,,,Whew, We might have to get some extra chairs, LOL

                                        • 8 votes
                                        Reply#16 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:37 PM EDT

                                        Good Lord! All of the repub candidates and hopefuls are so weird and/or braindead that it's getting difficult to come up with new jokes about them! It's getting to be a "one joke fits all" kind of situation.

                                        • 14 votes
                                        Reply#17 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

                                        Yeah, that's a national crisis that the Republicans need to work on. Please select a possible winner. I'm tired of all these crazy losers.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #17.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:49 PM EDT
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                                        No person who does not believe in global warming and evolution now, in 2011, is qualified to be President. I suppose those money grubbing scientists he is referring to are the ones he thinks there are enough of to say it's not a real issue, because grubbing for money is the only reason a scientist would deny global warming at this point. He'd probably consider one of those enough to rebuke all the other climate scientists in the world.

                                        • 11 votes
                                        Reply#18 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:45 PM EDT

                                        They are doing what scientists do - question, challenge, experiment. That the consensus is STILL that humans are having a significant impact on our environment hasn't been changed. We are trying to find out why, how much, what we can to to mitigate it, etc. If there weren't hundreds of scientists showing opposing viewpoints on the subject, which is still so new, I'd believe the conspiracy theories. Honestly some people just can't handle the way the scientific method works.

                                        Anyone who doesn't think we are effecting our environment is simply living with their eyes wide shut, at this point tho. I mean we have practically destroyed the ozone layer over several cities across the globe.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #18.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:59 PM EDT

                                        When you consider Perry's grade point average, it is not hard to understand why he disagrees with the greatest scientific minds in the World. Scientific studies are way too far beyond his comprehension. No Kidding, please check out his college transcripts at Texas A & M.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #18.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:06 PM EDT
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                                        Oh boy, the petrified lemmings are out in force today. Let's not forget record unemployment, record food stamp usage, a non existent recovery, no foreign policy, 3 wars and record debt and deficits. Yep, sounds like a failed record that should be rewarded with 4 more years.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#19 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:46 PM EDT

                                        James DM, so Perry is answering your questions? all I heard is a real "States rights guy" that connects monetary policy with the concerns of small business. How did he explain that connection? I am really having trouble with why he is even running for president.

                                        • 9 votes
                                        #19.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:04 PM EDT

                                        A Republican president got us into two of those wars. The third one, Libya, looks like it'll be a victory after just a few months. Looks like Obama does a better job of choosing his wars than Bush.

                                        The recession started under Bush and the GOP has been damn unhelpful in doing anything to fix the problem. In fact, I doubt they even want it fixed. If the economy improves, Obama will win re-election hands down.

                                        • 12 votes
                                        #19.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:26 PM EDT

                                        The recession started with a democratic congress, who many voted for those wars. You all blamed Bush for 911, 9 months into his first term. But Obama gets a pass almost 3 years later???

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #19.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:14 PM EDT

                                        Steve he started that crap without congressional approval, but hey whatever floats your boat just remember you are entitled to the facts just not ones you make up.

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #19.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:16 PM EDT

                                        a democratic congress ..wow you need to read , alot more. although common sense can't be taught, just try and think.are you talking about the congress "w" vetoed for two years? a big problem has been going on for 10 years 10!.... look up government gone wild on youtube

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #19.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:24 PM EDT
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                                        WOW I've never seen so many Ivy League Grad's in one room. This has to be the smartest room I've ever been too. Yes Richard Texans knows what Dingle berry's are, but I don't think you do or you woudn't have used it in that way. But your the brain surgen not me. I do not agree with what Perry said but look at what Herry Reid said a couple of years ago about americans who are black. Are you going to make fun of him? This country needs jobs, and if Perry can help us then great, if not we need to find someone who can. If Obama can come up with a plan to help businesses creat new jobs then we need to vote for him if not he needs to go. We need someone who can bring Washington together.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#20 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

                                        Texas is tied with Mississippi for having the highest proportion of minimum wage jobs. If that's your vision of America, go for it.

                                        • 11 votes
                                        #20.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:39 PM EDT

                                        MichaelC That is no kidding, and certainly not something to be proud about. But Texans have always marched to a different beat just look at the state and the people. Y'all come back now here, LOL.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #20.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:20 PM EDT

                                        SLWS:

                                        ...and therein lies the problem. Washington does not want to be "brought together". This has been a down and dirty street fight ever since President Obama was elected. The only goal of the Republicans has been and will continue to be to "get rid" of him. History breaking filibustering was the strategy until Nov 2010, and now it's the The Tea Party (born again John Birch Society) with their heels in the dirt, proving with their "inactions" so far that they care nothing of the consequences of their narrow focus. Threatening to bring this country to its' knees told us all we need to know about these Repubs/Teabaggers.

                                        • 5 votes
                                        #20.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:09 PM EDT

                                        carolyn-727984,

                                        History breaking filibustering was the strategy until Nov 2010???

                                        The Democrats have the vast MAJORITY in the House and they had a filibuster proof Senate for the majority of the last 2+years...

                                        Reid has still not submitted a budget (800+days) and Pelosi refused to submit a budget for 2010 & 2011.

                                        During the last 7+months the Republican controlled House has submitted THREE budget proposals. Two of these the Senate/Reid refused to even debate & the POTUS stated they were DOA and would be VETOED..

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #20.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:49 PM EDT

                                        dufus,there was NO filibuster proof senate the last 2 years, the republicants used the filibuster more then ANY other time in history without proposing anything....NO,NO,NO to everything, even when the dems put forth past republican backed proposals...proven facts, not your made up ones.

                                        and those werent budget proposals they were ultimatums with no compromise....no compromise means only half the country gets representation, stupid people think its ok for only what THEY wnat to get passed

                                        funny how when republicans had control of the house, the senate, the white house and the extreme court, they didnt over turn roe v wade, they didnt pass a constitutional ammend, to prevent gay marriage, they increased the national debt by more then 150%, gave tax breaks to the rich while paying for 2 wars on the credit card

                                        leading requires compromising and negoitiating in ggod faith, something tea baggers will never let the republican party ever do, ever again.......an aging alsmost all white group that is grabbing all it can before the party is done.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #20.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:25 PM EDT

                                        the only one who stands a chance against obama is romney. he is well schooled and is not one of the far right stooges the others are. he will appeal to minorities, and as you seen in the last election they now conrol who gets in, cant win without there votes. is it not amazing that since the birther issue was slammed down how much more hait the far white has for obama. he got the boogie man bin ladin and thats what the gop used him as. now all you fox news watching people are going to eat some more crow, because through a concerted effort by nato the libya kook is gone too. it took less than 1 year. lets see how long will we have been in iraq when we finally leave come years end, all thanks to gwb and his cronies cowboy up do it alone polotics, nine years. amazing obama got us out of there too. obama will tear apart any of your bible thumping phonies in debates. you better get wise and get with romney or it will be obama and then after that rubio, and then the congress will lose all there good ole boys too. oh lord jesus help us all.

                                          #20.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:02 PM EDT
                                          Reply

                                          Having been elected the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, while Perry was having difficulty passing Advanced Basket Weaving at the University of Texas for Half-Wits, speaks volumes as to the comparative intellectual capacity of President Obama versus Rick "Boot In Mouth" Perry.   

                                          • 19 votes
                                          Reply#21 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:53 PM EDT

                                          Diane Reeves:

                                          You sound like you have both feet in your mouth (with your shoes on) and it has nothing to do with speaking volumes or intellectual capacity. It has to do with how big your mouth is. It would be better if you don't say anything.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #21.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:27 PM EDT

                                          Diane Reeves,

                                          Having been elected the first black President of the Harvard Law Review... Ha! Ha!

                                          You need to review the REQUIRED qualifications for the post... Prior to Obama it was, "based upon achievements and academic credentials."

                                          Obama was the first affirmative action president of the Law Review. Just before he was elected, the qualifications for being president were changed from smarts and academic excellence to 'helping right the wrongs of a fascist society.'

                                          Also, Obama never published anything in the review while he was president. This is usually a part of being president.

                                          But this and ALL of Obama's school records are sealed, ever wonder why???

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #21.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:09 PM EDT
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                                          Perry claims to be representing the people of America while calling the Fed Chairman Treasonous and threatening to "treat him ugly" in Texas. You don't represent me, Perry. I wouldn't allow anyone as loud-mouthed, arrogant and stupid as you to represent me. Note to GubinorGeezus-Freak Perry: Please go back to Texass where they still keep boot-scapers and spitoons by the front door for those who, like you, talk like they've got a mouthful of marbles and are too stupid to avoid stepping in rhetorical cow-patties.

                                          • 14 votes
                                          Reply#22 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:01 PM EDT

                                          Perry is trying to sell himself to the American people. Its a bit of putting the cart before the horse to say he represents the American people. I already know he'll never represent me. Next...

                                          • 10 votes
                                          #22.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:35 PM EDT

                                          Diane Reeves, post #22:

                                          It is apparent your mouth is getting bigger. And MichaelC, post#22.1, must be related to you.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #22.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:37 PM EDT

                                          hey "American man":

                                          Why don't at least try to use some intellectual capacity and refute what Diane Reeves is writing versus blathering on with personal insults and childish name-calling. Although sarcastic in tone, she is 100 percent correct in her take on "Geezuz-freak" Perry... truth can be rather painful, yes?

                                          Carry on, Dt and t

                                          Oh and Diane, the "advanced basket weaving" quip had me cracking up...good take.

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #22.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:16 PM EDT

                                          im telling you, they switched faces like in the movie face off and perry is gwb. oh my god!

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #22.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:13 PM EDT

                                          Perry's comments may be controversial to some but at least he says what he feels without a teleprompter reading a speech someone else wrote. As for his comments about the climate there is nothing posted here to disprove what he has said. Some here say he likes illegals. Show your references please. The illegals have cost Texans billions in medical expenses and I forget how much in education and housing and incarcerations expenses. Below is a link from 2005 and I know this has increased at least double. So you think Perry loves illegals after he asked Obama for help on the boarder? Of coarse it was asked and denied. Most of these post seem to be how the writer feels and does not contain facts. It would seem the Obama supporters are starting to run scared as well they should be.

                                          Illegal Aliens Cost Texas Taxpayers $4.7 Billion a Year : Diggers ...

                                          www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000942.html

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #22.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:45 PM EDT
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                                          Teawisted ! Tea pottiers say they know what the american people want, but they don't get it that there are a lot of other people who see through their bs. They only consider their own as Americans.

                                          • 10 votes
                                          Reply#23 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:21 PM EDT

                                          Perry: ""I'm sorry if I offended a congressman but the fact of the matter is I'm about representing the American people out here."

                                          Dude, you do NOT represent the majority of the American people.

                                          Please stop confusing the small, fervently loyal crowd of far right wingers that support you with the majority of Americans.

                                          The majority of Americans think you are only slightly less bat sh *t crazy than Ms. Bachmann.

                                          • 19 votes
                                          Reply#24 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:28 PM EDT

                                          Both Perry and Bachmann stand head and shoulders above the liberals who suffer a mental disorder.

                                          Liberalism is a mental disorder because it denies the basic nature of mankind to be free. Instead liberals seek to have everyone enslaved to the state in collectivism and their totalitarian marxist redistribution of wealth.

                                          Until liberals seek help to be free of this mental disorder they unfortunately cannot be trusted.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #24.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:10 PM EDT

                                          Will we see in 2012, now won't we. One and Done.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #24.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:15 PM EDT

                                          Larry I think you are the one who needs help and desperately as at this time not one politician Rep or Dem can be trusted.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #24.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:26 PM EDT

                                          larry keep on fightin' fer that corporate welfare! yeeehaw! because we all know corporations are people too.

                                          • 8 votes
                                          #24.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT

                                          Though Perry is the governor of Texas (and has been for over 10 agonizing years), I don't feel that he represents me or my values AT ALL. Please--I can live with a Republican president--but not another Bush (or worse than Bush) type. Actually, Bush 41 was a lot better than his son. At least papa Bush had a clue about foreign affairs.

                                          There has got to be someone better than Perry or Bachmann. Maybe this is the tactic--put up extreme candidates like these two and then Romney looks awesome by comparison.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #24.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:37 PM EDT

                                          Liberalism is a mental disorder because it denies the basic nature of mankind to be free. Instead liberals seek to have everyone enslaved to the state in collectivism and their totalitarian marxist redistribution of wealth.

                                          Wrong. Liberals look to be free of the economic bondage that would result from a small minority of ultra-wealthy aristocrats owning everything and everyone else relegated to serfdom. You might not like the taxes of "tax and spend" liberals, but they come much closer to fiscal responsibility and balancing the budget than the "borrow and spend" conservatism we've seen during the most recent Republican administrations. Over half the current national debt was acquired under just 3 Republican Presidents - Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr. One third of the current national debt was added during the 8 years Bush Jr. was in office, most of that time with a Republican dominated Congress.

                                          Obama and the Democrats have never proposed "collectivism" or "marxism" or "totalitarian redistribution of wealth". Obama actually signed off on extending the Bush tax cuts (a mistake, in my opinion), and has been systematically selling off the GM assets acquired in the last month of the Bush Jr. administration. That's hardly a "socialist" move. Oh, but it's so much easier to argue against a made-up straw-man "marxist collectivist totalitarian lieberal" than the real thing.

                                          • 10 votes
                                          #24.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:47 PM EDT

                                          Sarge...that was a good one! ;)

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #24.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:51 PM EDT

                                          CM-6969

                                          This has got to be the most level-headed, reasonable, nail-on-the-head rebuttal here. Dealing with unreasonable people here can be frustrating and downright scary. Facts such as contained within your response, just baffle the simple-minded fools out there... nice take.

                                          CM 6969 has it right you know, I have not seen any evidence of the "fiscal conservatism" that Republicans espouse, but rather spending tax payer funded money and borrowing from foreign countries like there's no tomorrow; but then again, maybe these "Christian" conservative politicians really do believe there is no tomorrow, maybe the RAPTURE is upon us. (JK)

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #24.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:29 PM EDT

                                          are founding fathers were coservitives. lay off the moonshine jethro and quit makin babies with yer cuzzins. they were the biggest liberals of all time. they liberated themselves from englands rule. oh and they did not make right to bear arms so in youinns could own 900 guns and shoot anything not white. nor for gang members to kill innocent people, pull your heads out of the nras ass. and the freedom of speech was not made so you could make vulgar violent songs and movies and hide behind it. our four fathers are crying or laughing at you idiots and probably both.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #24.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:26 PM EDT
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                                          keep whining libs-that's all you have left as your 80 years of socialist programs are about to be reversed and cut off.

                                          And you'd better get used to saying President Perry come January 20, 2013.

                                          This libertarian is excited to actually see some Republicans coming into leadership who actually believe in the Constitution.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          Reply#25 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:52 PM EDT

                                          Wouldn't a libertarian want to see another libertarian (Rep. Ron Paul or Rep. Rand Paul) rather than Gov. Perry? "see some Republicans coming into leadership who actually believe in the Constitution.." I guess that means that SOME Republicans (like President Bush and Vice President Cheney) do not actually believe in Constitution....something many people have suspected for a while.

                                          • 7 votes
                                          #25.1 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:55 PM EDT

                                          What I personally find interesting is the proclamation that they LOVE the constitution so much...they can't wait to get there hands on it to CHANGE it! If you love it, LEAVE IT ALONE and abide by what is in it, including abortion rights, freedom of religion (or freedom FROM RELIGION), miranda rights, voting rights, and many other things in the constitution they (conservatives) profess to love so much.

                                          • 7 votes
                                          #25.2 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:45 PM EDT

                                          Some Republicans can't even quote the Constitution correctly let alone defend it. They have forgotten their obsessive fight against Foideral Nationalism.

                                          • 8 votes
                                          #25.3 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:51 PM EDT

                                          Larry whinning is all I have seen you do since your first post :-0

                                          Perry will never make it not in 2013 or ever but feel free to waste your vote. As for Obama I didn't vote for him last time and will not again. What I will say though is before I voted for Perry I would vote for Obama or anyone else for that matter.

                                          • 7 votes
                                          #25.4 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:32 PM EDT

                                          I guess you are prolly not expecting social security there larry. what never worked a real job before? a trailer park underthetable whiteprotestant conservative? do you even realize that your party can no longer even be considered "conservative" because they are not! wh-owwww

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #25.5 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:36 PM EDT

                                          ah libertarian yes your party has one . and he is gooood ,I will be voting for him. Ron Paul baby...

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #25.6 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:39 PM EDT

                                          this is the songs we should sing to congress and Obama and all who are running for office.

                                          Oh We're Not Gonna Take It
                                          no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
                                          oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

                                          we've Got The Right To Choose And
                                          there Ain't No Way We'll Lose It
                                          this Is Our Life, This Is Our Song
                                          we'll Fight The Powers That Be Just
                                          don't Pick Our Destiny 'cause
                                          you Don't Know Us, You Don't Belong

                                          oh We're Not Gonna Take It
                                          no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
                                          oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

                                          oh You're So Condescending
                                          your Gall Is Never Ending
                                          we Don't Want Nothin', Not A Thing From You
                                          your Life Is Trite And Jaded
                                          boring And Confiscated
                                          if That's Your Best, Your Best Won't Do

                                          oh.....................
                                          oh.....................
                                          we're Right/yeah
                                          we're Free/yeah
                                          we'll Fight/yeah
                                          you'll See/yeah

                                          oh We're Not Gonna Take It
                                          no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
                                          oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

                                          oh We're Not Gonna Take It
                                          no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
                                          oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore
                                          no Way!

                                          oh.....................
                                          oh.....................
                                          we're Right/yeah
                                          we're Free/yeah
                                          we'll Fight/yeah
                                          you'll See/yeah

                                          we're Not Gonna Take It
                                          no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
                                          we're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

                                          we're Not Gonna Take It, No!
                                          no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
                                          we're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

                                          just You Try And Make Us
                                          we're Not Gonna Take It
                                          come On
                                          no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
                                          you're All Worthless And Weak
                                          we're Not Gonna Take It Anymore
                                          now Drop And Give Me Twenty
                                          we're Not Gonna Take It
                                          oh Crinch Pin
                                          no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
                                          oh You And Your Uniform
                                          we're Not Gonna Take It Anymore

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                                          #25.7 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:48 PM EDT

                                          A Republican-Libertarian would be voting for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson instead of Perry - aside from his "states rights" rant, there is very little "libertarian" about Perry.

                                          cherrytom: Don't give up your day job. An incoherent rant does not make for a good song.

                                            #25.8 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:26 PM EDT

                                            Angelo Belcher, post #25.2:

                                            You failed to identify who "they are", however it does not matter. Just because they get their hands on the Constitution does not mean they can change it. It takes a very large percentage of American voters to change or add an amendment to the Constitution of The United States. I'm not sure of the percentage of voters it takes, maybe someone can help me out here.

                                            Both GOP and Dem's (Presidents) have violated the Constitution, and our current leader is one of the worst.

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                                            #25.9 - Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:41 PM EDT
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