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Subscribe to RSSMississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) said he is not advising fellow Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) on his presidential campaign. Barbour, at one point considering his own presidential run, told Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC that he is not advising any candidate, and he doesn't intend to endorse anyone.
He did, however, stick up for Perry for his comments on Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.
"I don't take it as offensive to say that we would not treat you nice,” Barbour said. “We treat you nice. We like you, and we're proud to have you down here. That isn't exactly threatening language to most people."
About secession: "If somebody thought he was saying that seriously a couple years ago, that would be one thing, but everybody knew then he was joking about it. ...He's going to get nitpicked, because he's the governor of Texas, because the liberal media elite dislike George Bush so much, and he reminds them of him. As I say, conservative, Christian, Republican, Southerner. He needs to understand he doesn't have the liberty to say things loosely that somebody else might."
Barbour said he doesn't know of anyone else looking to get into the GOP contest, but doesn't think it’s impossible either.
"As Rick showed, you can get in late,” Barbour said. “This field reminds me of the Democratic presidential campaigns that I've watched in the past, where there wasn't a real front runner and somebody who a year-and-a-half before the election didn't seem to have a chance came out and won a nomination.... That could happen on our side, even though we don't normally have a contest that looks like this."
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Karl Rove & Bruce Bartlett is now a member of the lame stream media?
Why I never...
And all this time I thought Rove was a paid propaganda shill for Fox & Freaks...
Boss Hog is grasping at corn dogs on this one! ;o)
Rumor has it that Barbour was going to attend the Iowa State Fair but his handlers were afraid the judges would get him mixed up with Blue Boy! (of "State Fair" movie fame)
Now that wasn't very Iowa nice was it.
It does bring to question, all this sickening GOP/TP mutual worshiping -- Where are the surrogates for our president? True, the Dems are not the Borg like the GOP/TP, in fact often too timid, but come on media. Howard Dean, Ed Rendell and others speak out in support of our candidate, President Obama, but never a story about here on good old MSNBC. What has Bill Clinton been up to? Barbour? Puleeze.
Good old southern boy speaking up for another good old southern boy. Bottom line not men just little boys.
Feisty redhead? u r my fave blogger..lol..u say it as u see it
Thank you for the kind words Kathy - years of being on the front lines have proven to me you have to cut to the chase!
I prefer to cut through the chase!
Have a GREAT weekend!
PS: I've been reading you & you're no slouch! ;o)
Thanks sister..I hear you..ive been around too lol..sick of people lying "in the name of the lord",,,Jesus said.."Suffer the little children unto me"..the bible totin repubs have changed that to "Let the little children suffer"..sad but true.."pretty perry is a nut job" lol..U hv a great w/e too friend! I anxiously await your future posts!!!..:)
Again, thank you so much for the 'atta girl! lol
Bottom line is we can take NO prisoners in speaking the TRUTH!
You go, girls!
Feisty Red and Disabled Navy Vet are the top advocates of socialism on MSNBC's blogs. They truly despise personal liberty and love being enslaved to totalitarian govt that steals from others.
Palin would like to run. On the other hand, I think she's enjoying the publicity and the cash.
This parade just continues to get longer and longer.
Palin won't run because she can't win, just doing this to keep up apperrances and endorsements.
Larry,
Such a dumb statement on your part. Get an education.
I doubt they despise personal liberty. I think they probably have a good bit of compassion for those less fortunate rather than for those way too fortunate. I don't know them, but then neither do you, Larry Robinson.
Let's see, the big bad government is taking millions from corporations and special interest groups, advocating a payroll tax increase for everyone making $106K or less, but none for corporations or the top level earners (in fact they want more cuts for them) , want to dismantle social security, reduce medicaid and medicare, increase defense spending, cut EPA and education and on and on. All the while the wealthy and the corporations get more breaks, are showing record earnings and profits and not hiring anyone because they're holding the government and the rest of us hostage to their lower tax mantras. We have the personal liberty to be laid off and have no health insurance, because requiring it is socialism and in the current environment we can't afford it, but screw those people. They're not important. They can't donate a couple hundred grand. I know, we can fix the economy like Bachmann says; eliminate minimum wage.
Now who should we really be afraid?
He's gov of Mississippi. What's he got to be proud of? I'd stay in the shadows until that state climbed above 50 in one or more categories. Who cares what he thinks anyway?
Liberal media elite. Check. We're just hitting all them T.P. buttons today ain't we
That darn liberal media bias.
Hiya Floyd - save me a seat over at the Dew Drop Inn will ya?
See you soon...
We definitely need the DDI bar stocked this week. Make mine a double gin and tonic; all that bus and vacation nonsense wears a person down.
I'm wondering if with Congress and President Obama out of town, there's nothing for the Week Ahead except GOP candidate spottings.
Yeh Red and Jody if you'll get there first make a mark an if I get there first I'll erase it.
Another fool heard from; maybe Barbour should talk to Karl Rove about it. Rick Perry said what he said and it's on tape; the media can't fix it and neither can the Good Ship Haley Barbour.
Why is it when GOPTPers make fools of themselves, it's always the media's fault?
Perry: "If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I don’t know what you all would do to him in Iowa, but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas."
Barbour: "I don't take it as offensive to say that we would not treat you nice. We treat you nice. We like you, and we're proud to have you down here. That isn't exactly threatening language to most people."
Yo, Governor Barbour, were you not paying attention to what Governor Perry said? He didn't say he'd treat him "not nice"...he said he'd treat him "pretty ugly".
...and it's very easy for you to say you aren't offended by what Perry said, isn't it? You weren't the one who was being threatened.
Kinda makes you wonder about these southern governors. The interesting thing about that clip of Perry's treat 'em ugly in Texas, there wasn't much laughter and what you did hear was the "uncomfortable" kind.
Treat 'em ugly means "a massage" in Mississippi.
I think I would have puked in my mouth if I had to watch "fat boy" eat fried butter on a stick. It was gross enough just watching the other idiots putting those horrible things in their mouths........hmmmmm.......although Michele Bachmann's husband looks like he enjoyed it a bit too much :)
Haley Barbour! I forgot about him! Another potential President of These here United States, along with Trump, Daniels, Pawlenty, Gingrich, Cain, Palin, Bachmann, Paul, Perry,Santorum, Romney, oh Lord, I know I'm forgetting some of them....
First Read, snarky headlining as usual.
How could anyone possibly claim the media favors Obama?
Expect more snark and miscues by GOP candidates, real an dimagined, highlighted on MSNBC. It is what they do!
Obama is flawless, per his official network.
FR:
Secessionists have to stick together if the South is going to Rise Again.
I read the Separatist Governors comments and he was not joking in the least.
About secession: "If somebody thought he was saying that seriously a couple years ago, that would be one thing, but everybody knew then he was joking about it.
This is how coded language works -- you can say anything outrageous and then claim it's a joke. Or you can say someone wouldn't get treated well (implying they would get treated quite poorly) and then claim it's inoffensive in your coded speak. The fact that Haley Barbour and Rick Perry share a coded language is not in either's favor.
Having an Endorsement from a WCC sympathizer is good for mister perry
I am sorry to say Perry has been my Governor for the past 10 years, I'll forgo all the juvenile name calling etc. to say that all you people who think that Texas is heaven and that Perry and Bush before him have done a great job in this state,just look at the facts about the real state of Texas....if you all can read.
@Roger 2011..We can read, honey..and we get it...I just hope that Perry keeps flapppin his jaws in the same manner as in the last few days...He just loves Jesus..yet the lower income people in your state pay the most taxes..WHY DONT PEOPLE GET IT THAT THE RICH ARE GETTIN RICHER AND THE REST OF US ARE FLOUNDERING..the GOP reps are so scared of holding a town meeting where they might be asked real questions that they are now CHARGING FEES for us citizens to ask them a damn question . HOW DARE THEY CHARGE US A FEE..THEY ARE OUR EMPLOYEES.. Look at Wisconsin and Ohio,,we are not gonna take this tea party rich people pay no taxes crap any more..u have been warned..Next step is for my PA fellow voters to vote that lard bag gov Corbett out..He received 2 million from the natural gas industry to frack the hell out of my home state..YET HE REFUSES TO TAX THEM FOR RAPING OUR STATE..I am so sick of being screwed by u rich politicians..Im on a roll lol!!!
I am with you 100% Kathy and am well aware of the fracking damage done in PA. If it is not done safely and done within regulations that Bush and Cheney did not want, it can harm the water we all depend on. Greed and corruption is what we will always get from the republicans. I want regulations, oversight and protection for our natural resources. We have to fight for safety. Fracking is happening all over the country and finally President Obama demanded that the chemicals and the process must be provided to the government. That is why I support President Obama. He is not going to say everything is fine for everything corporations demand.
Thanks Vicki..fracking just drives me crazy..
Seriously? Marcus Bachmann is a real freak show...I guess he thinks that if you "pray away the gay" out of someone, it just leaves more for him..he is the ultimate creep show....well, I guess we barbarians need to be taught-all of us..straight or gay..he is getting government dollars to perform his psychological voodoo on gay citizens..yep..u got it..Michelle"against govt handouts"bachmann gets medicaid dollars for her husbands voodoo clinic..disgusting..hypocryte...
Michele Bachmann obviously has more class than you could ever understand. yes, you are a barbarian and you are bound for hell unless you repent and follow Jesus the Christ as Lord and Savior.
Time for your meds Larry. Jesus said we should all help the poor, yet you support a party that could care less about the poor. The GOP says taxing the rich is class warfare, however, cutting off the poor is just good politics. So it sounds like you are the one who should be worrying about going to hell, not Kathy. I love how these right wing "Christians" want to pass judgement on everyone when they should be looking in the mirror.
Yes Jesus said we as individuals are to help the needy as unto Him. But He didn't say to steal and rob from others to do so.
I have spent decades helping the poor and needy without a single dollar of govt help, what about you?
No Larry, he didn't...
He said to sell all you have and give it to the poor.
That is the complaint, in case you guys don't get it; hipocritically pick and choose the parts you want, out of context, but DON'T FOLLOW what you preach and what is written. STOP IT! The Bible Can NOT be twisted, rationalized and spun to fit YOUR positions, even though wing-nuts and tea-nuts and Republicans do that with facts and hstory. I believe you may be treading on VERY thin ice.
@Not as stupid as you think-actually you are
you have done exactly what you accuse us of. That passage deals specifically with a young man who valued his wealth more than a relationship with God.
Jesus NEVER stated that no one who followed Him had to live in complete poverty in order to follow Him. Nor did He EVER say that you could not have wealth and follow Him. Nicodemus is a good example to refute your charge.
Helping the needy must come from the heart and be done as unto Jesus Himself (Matthew 25, Isaiah 58, and others). You socialists on the other hand not only want it to be done by force and theft, it amounts to asking Christians to sin by putting our trust and glory to man/government instead of God.
As a Pastor, theologian, and a historian, I will stand on the facts rather than the twisted rantings of marxist/socialists like yourself.
Must be one hell of a church if this is what you preach;
Can I get a hallelujah?
You may now return to praying to your plastic Jesus... lol
Thanks Feitsty, for proving my point.
Larry - if you are a "a pastor and theologian" as you stated, then I am certain you have studied and know what is written in James chaper 5. Please explain and contrast with your stated positions; they just don't mesh. Further, the end of Luke 9 tells us of 3 men speaking with Jesus. As a pastor and theologian, I know you are familiar with what is written: basically Jesus tells these men that 1. "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head." That is, true disciples are homeless and not guaranteed even basic shelter; 2. Jesus told the 2nd man not to wait to bury his father who had just died, "Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God." And 3. Jesus told the third man not to even say goodbye to his family. In other words, Jesus commands to relinquish everything you have.
Sounds a little different than what you say (as a pastor and theologian.) To me it sounds more like, "what Jesus really meant was..." In the begining God created man in his own image....I hear you saying, "man created God in his own image."
And Luke 9 is not the only place in the Bible that what is written is at variance with what you are professing on this board. Another good example is Luke 14:26-27. But, of course you know that as a pastor and theologian, as well as the other passages which address the topic.
My question to you, Larry, is are you truly a disciple of Jesus, or are you more a worshiper of man; do you have the radical courage to abandon everything for Christ, and do you believe in Him enough to OBEY Him, or would you instead attempt to use Him for yourself, for your glory, to try to support your will? Crunch time. Decide and act, for true discipleship required both commitment and response.
But as a pastor and theologian you know that.... right? Come forward in truth for He is waiting.
Halleujah!
p.s. Larry:
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a wealthy man to enter the gates of Heaven." J.C.
As a pastor, theologian and historian, have you ever read or studied anything written by David Platt, or listen to him preach? You might wish to get his book
Radicalfor reference; I recommend it.You are awesome "not as stupid as yo uthink"...I could not have said it better with that quote from Jesus..Amen..
I always wait with excitement for Barbour's comments. He makes me feel so smart. I'm not, particularly, but by comparison....
Dear dear Larry, socalism isn't a bad word t a "polarized to the point of stupid" reasonable thinking person. Feisty and D Navy truly love, not despise, personal liberty obviously, and our YOUR totalitarian govt has stolen your common everyday horse sense. Your an idiot.
@olrockcandymtnroustabout
Socialism is antithetical to liberty because it requires you to surrender your liberties for the "collective" good. Perhaps if you had been better educated, you would know the principles of liberty our founders established.
"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816
"A wise and frugal government ... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government."
Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801
Charles Montesquieu, whose writings were recommended by major Framers such as James Madison, John Adams, and Alexander Hamilton, declared: “Let us therefore lay down a certain maxim: that whenever the public good happens to be the matter in question, it is not for the advantage of the public to deprive an individual of his property – or even to retrench the least part of it by a law or a political regulation”
"We still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping at the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised to furnish new pretenses for revenue and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without a tribute." Thomas Paine
Samuel Adams stated: "The utopian schemes of leveling [redistribution of wealth], and a community of goods, are as visionary and impracticable as those that vest all property in the Crown. [These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional."
John Jay, original Chief Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court and an author of the Federalist Papers declared that “It is the undoubted right and unalienable privilege of a [citizen] not to be divested or interrupted in the innocent use of . . . property. . . . This is the Cornerstone of every free Constitution”
"The reason why men enter into society is the preservation of their property." (John Locke, Second Treatise on Civil Government)
"That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty, is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest." James Madison 1792
Hey Larry . I , along with others here, are waiting for your response to " Not as stupid as uthink's" comment to you concerning your faith. Here you are condemning folks to hell. And the truth about it is that you are simply an educated fool. That's the worst kind. Because they are always the last to know they are a fool. And as for your "christianity", you wouldn't know Christ if He was tattoed on your forehead.
Larry,
Please quit acting like an idiot and get an education.
@Ekwel-try reading. I posted it at 6:48 am. it is posting number 13.5
@Job1
I have a great education thank you. I used it to forge a 25 year career as an executive in Aerospace & Defense. I managed and started companies here and in Asia.
For the past 20 years I have owned and operated my own companies (I currently have 3) and work at them part time because I choose to own my own life.
But thanks for trying.
Larry if you are a minister you are seriously wanting. That seems to be the problem with so many republicans who are ministers, preachers and stand in front of a church and attack Democrats, attack honesty, attack concern for others and attack Oprah, and so of course, President Obama is attacked in republican churches for no other reason except hate and wickedness. President Obama is a Christian and he follows his faith more clearing than these right wing politicians who lie, hate and vilify. Honesty left the GOP a long time ago. It is all character assassination of good people which began with even attacking moderate republicans calling them RINOs. That is what is wrong with the GOP. They hate the good reasonable and honest republicans who would compromise, would be fair, would do what is right are unacceptable with the more and more rabid republican party. Now more a cult than a decent political party.
Horse hockey, Robinson
Another deep south negrophobic state governor. Sure he's smart and sure he has big political and financial connections nationwide but the bottom line is that he rose to the top by playing on fears. Until Republican leaders purge these characters they'll never get my vote.
Let Perry keep on talking, he'll bury himself under the Bus. These Christians in politics, I can't even share faith in Jesus Christ anymore, I spend my time trying to separate true Christianity from this political right religionism, it makes me sick, where did "for me to die is to gain" where did that go? Or if you get slapped on the cheek, turn the other? Pick up your cross and follow HIM, where did it go? To a bunch of Christians who think they have rights. You'll notice the apostle Paul used the word servent of the most high God many times, or in other words WILLING SLAVES. Get the message? You have no rights, shut up and do the real work you were called to do.
@Paul
In your view are Christians prohibited from being citizens in this country and participating in it's decisions?
While it is certainly true that our kingdom is not of this world (something I have taught on for decades), as the Apostle John stated "we are in this world, not of this world". In other words we do have to live in and follow the governments we reside in. Ours is one that opens itself to ALL citizens participating and contributing. Our founders were emphatic that the foundation of our liberty and this republic WAS SPECIFIC TO OUR CHRISTIANITY.
“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." -John Jay, Constitutional Framer and 1st Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
"What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ." - President George Washington Speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs, May 12, 1779
“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”-Patrick Henry
MARYLAND SUPREME COURT, 1799: "Religion is of general and public concern, and on its support depend, in great measure, the peace and good order of government, the safety and happiness of the people. By our form of government, the Christian religion is the established religion; and all sects and denominations of Christians are placed upon the same equal footing, and are equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty."
“The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. . . . I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and the attributes of God.” (John Adams Letter to Thomas Jefferson, June 28, 1813)
James Madison, Father of the U.S. Constitution - “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to The Ten Commandments of God.”
Benjamin Franklin’s 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania insisted that schools teach “the necessity of a public religion . . . and the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern.” Franklin proposed a Biblical inscription for the Seal of the United States; he chose a New Testament verse for the motto of the Philadelphia Hospital; he was one of the chief proponents of a paid chaplain in Congress; and when Franklin helped found the college which bore his name in 1787, it was dedicated as “a nursery of religion and learning” built “on Christ, the Corner-Stone.”
From the Library of Congress (Religion and the Federal Govt)
“It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House--a practice that continued until after the Civil War--were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary. Preachers of every Protestant denomination appeared. (Catholic priests began officiating in 1826.) As early as January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a "crowded audience." Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers.”
President Franklin D. Roosevelt not only led the Nation in a 6 minute prayer during D-Day on June 6, 1944, but he also declared that “If we will not prepare to give all that we have and all that we are to preserve Christian civilization in our land, we shall go to destruction’;
in 1854 the United States House of Representatives declared `It [religion] must be considered as the foundation on which the whole structure rests … Christianity; in its general principles, is the great conservative element on which we must rely for the purity and permanence of free institutions’;
Jesus did everything he could to overthrow the ruthless Roman Government. Must be a lost book of the bible
Larry Robinson:
Please read and respond to #13.7 & 13.8 above, if possible.
I realize you are probably very busy as a pastor and theologian today since it is Sunday, and I know being an aerospace and defense executive must be time consuming, particularly in addition to owning 3 different businesses; it is a wonder you have any time to post on this board at all. But, please, at your earliest convenience, I would be interested in your responses.
Thanks!
As I surmised;
either Larry is too swamped with his eight seperate vocational positions, or he, in fact, has no answers to support his intennable position.
We will pray for your soul Larry - but it may do no good.
just what does religion have to do with being elected president? i vote on what the candidate says about the economy,social programs,foreign policies, and the well being for america. his religeous views are really irrelevant. now perry suddenly has gotten on his stump and is doing his bible banging and seems as the good ole southerners can't get enough,even having the miss.gov.jump in to his defense. if anybody with any common sense votes for any for the gop/tp candidates america will be in for a lot of disappointment and frustration. it is time to weed out these people and vote for the ones that will try to help all americans,not the ones with wealth
Well if we don't like you we're gonna treat you ugly. Why what's wrong with that? That's a perfectly sane way to treat people especially if your politics are different.
Perry = candidate of scared, ignorant, racist, white people
@haggisbingo
we certainly appreciate your bigoted and ignorant marxist comments
right from the horses ... er .. mouth.
ROMNEY 2012, SHOULD I SAY ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's plenty, thanks.
Larry Robinson - You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.
Paul simply pointed out that in his view Perry and those like him may say the words but their actions do not prove themselves to be Christian or that they believe in the teachings of Christ. How does that make him a marxist?
While it seems impressive that you have quoted many things taken out of context that were said or written by our founders, your knowledge of American history is typical of other right wing nuts. What you don't realize ids that those who know the historical facts see you for what you are.
Benjamin Franklin - An avowed Deist, he is also a fitting example of right wing morals and family values. He brought his bastard son home for his wife to raise while he was having affars in Europe.
Thomas Jefferson - What Christian would write a version of the New testament that removed all references to Christ's divinity? Jefferson saw Christ as a great philosopher and he too was a Deist.
Thomas Paine - Read his rantings about churches and clergy and realize they apply to you.
I also think that Perry running for President under the GOP banner must have Abraham Lincoln rolling over in his grave.
Lastly, In the interest of full disclosure, I am living off the public dole so that probably makes me a socialist in your eyes. Yes, my government check comes every month.
I get that check because I am a 100% disabled Vietnam vet. I served for over 5 years as an Army infantry officer and served in Berlin and in Vietnam. I have seen the worst of communism/Marxism, unlike so many chickenhawks on the right.
Lastly, after Lyndon Johnson and George W. Bush. I don't think we need another Texan in the White House or another war.
By the way, if you think that objecting to a hateful and threatening comment makes someone a bigot and a marxist, you are in serious need of mental health treatment.
"we don't normally have a contest that looks like this." How very true that statement is.
Gov. Barbour also thought that the South was just peachy before the Civil Rights Movement because the White Citizen's Council made sure that everyone was treated fairly regardless of race. If you buy that one, I have bridge to sell.
The old Klan chief comes to the Cowboys aide? Come on Barbour, even in the South we take threatning to treat someone "ugly," accusing them of treason and secession seriously. Remember, that got our butts whipped one time?
If not then, let's all call Parry a traitor for threatning the Union!