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Subscribe to RSSFLORENCE, SC -- Speaking about what he calls the burdensome regulations of President Obama's health-care bill Friday, Gov. Rick Perry described himself as "the chief executive officer of one of the bigger states in the nation" and promised to use an executive order to nix the Obama law.
"If I'm so fortunate to be elected the president of the United States, on Day One, when I walk into the Oval Office, there will be an executive order on that desk that eliminates as much of ObamaCare that I can have done with an executive order," he said in remarks at at a hospital complex here. "Now hopefully, Lord willing, the 11th Court of Appeals has already found that that individual mandate is unconstitutional, and hopefully that will be gone to the Supreme Court, and I won't have to deal with that."
Perry, who has tried to counter Mitt Romney's highlighting of his private-sector experience, said his concern about the law stems from his tenure as the "chief executive officer" of Texas.
A man infamous for once nodding to Texas' secessionists, Perry also earned giggles after starting an explanation of his home state's economy with, "If Texas were another country...." He went on to explain that it would have an economy comparable to Russia's -- "not inconsequential," he said.
Perry also said the costs of implementing the health-care law would force Texas to raise taxes -- and that other states will be bankrupted as a result of "ObamaCare."
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Well that didn't take long...
I predicted earlier these tea baggers would try out out-crazy themselves...
Pretty-boy Perry is tossing some more TX sized T-Bones/ red meat for the stuck on stupid crowd!
Perry/Palin 2012 Yeah BABY!
"If I'm so fortunate to be elected the president of the United States, on Day One, when I walk into the Oval Office, there will be an executive order on that desk that eliminates as much of ObamaCare that I can have done with an executive order," he said in remarks at at a hospital complex here. "Now hopefully, Lord willing, the 11th Court of Appeals has already found that that individual mandate is unconstitutional, and hopefully that will be gone to the Supreme Court, and I won't have to deal with that."
Cringe worthy.
You'd at least think that this guy would have a grasp of the English language.
Kind of reminds you of another arrogant, ignorant, bible banging TX Guvnah don't it!
It's cringe worthy alright!
So, according to Perry an executive order can nullify an existing law. And the not so smart crowd believes that. Looks like we have a case of dumb and dumber. You figure out who is dumber.
...without a doubt, the Teapublican base is dumber! Perrys' "Lord willing", he left off "and the creek don't rise"........
...Creeks haven't risen in Texas in months......above 100 degrees everyday statewide......Perrys' prayer for rain hasn't been answered yet!
Kinda like what Obama is doing to the immigration laws...
I say you.
chilled -
If he keeps it up, it will be 40 days and 40 nights worth.
Feisty:
Another reason to avoid this guy like the plague he is. He sites one case that said the Republican "Individual Mandate" is unconstitutional - If I remember correctly I think the score is now 4 and 3 with 4 saying it is constitutional and 3 no's.
This will be decided by the SCOTUS and not by executive order.
Not only is Perry ignorant he is so arrogant that he can not even talk in an intelligent sentence. Yep a Bush "Clone" on Steroids.
Perhaps they missed this in Texas....it's already on it's way to being ineffectual.
The HCR act is surely headed to the SCOTUS and will, I believe, t be stripped of the mandate...the heart of the law...which basically renders it useless. It will be funny though to see which side the insurance companies are for....the stand to make millions on the act with the mandate.
The provision in health care law requiring Americans to buy health insurance or face tax penalties was ruled unconstitutional by the United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, in Atlanta.
The court found that Congress exceeded its powers to regulate commerce when it decided to require people to buy health insurance, a provision of the health care law known as the “individual mandate.” But the court held that while that provision was unconstitutional, the rest of the wide-ranging law could stand.
A meaningless political statement aimed at his uninformed base.
What else would you expect from Perry..
I was actually expecting him to make fake finger guns and shoot the health care law down. Then blow off his fingertips and pretend to holster said fake guns.
Bryan E., PA..
He already shot himself in the foot with those fake guns....
Cool image though.
Perry just doesn't want Texans to have health insurance. He's done a good job so far, it's the state with just about the most uninsured in the nation.
EVERY claim Perry makes about his state is either weasel-wording or an outright falsehood. Well. Gov. Smarmy, why not get yourself a nice campaign poster photo of you alongside a jackalope - two phonies for the price of one!
[So, according to Perry an executive order can nullify an existing law. And the not so smart crowd believes that. Looks like we have a case of dumb and dumber. You figure out who is dumber.]
Well, there is this:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/19/idiot-jab-lobbed-at-perry/
I think I know Perry's campaign song --
Anything you can do, I can UNdo better; I can UNdo anything better than you can do.
Yes I can, no you can't; yes I can, no you can't .....
Kind of reminds you of another arrogant, ignorant,.............
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........ MSDNC prime time moron like the Rev. Al or Mr. Ed.
John, AZ, got proof that President Obama signed an E.O. on immigration. Fact, the Obama admininstration has deported more illegals than Bush did in 8 years. Fact, the Obama administration has prosecuted more businesses for knowingly hiring illegals than Bush did in 8 years. Fact, fewer illegals are entering this country from Mexico. Fact, the Obama administration is enforcing the immigration laws even though they believe the laws must be changed.
Joe, Albany. Rick Perry is running for President; last I checked Ed and Rev Al are TV program hosts and are smart enough to know, they aren't presidential material.
Mickey NY: Thanks for the link.
Perry qualifies as a idiot, moron, dumby. Take your pick. And we haven't begun to ask him about his written comments. Double down Rick. But that won't help you 'cause your not in Texas any more.
Seriously. Who is his campaign manager? Did they think he wouldn't be super scrutinized, especially after the last failure from Texas ruined our country and economy?
Joe, Albany. Rick Perry is running for President; last I checked Ed and Rev Al are TV program hosts and are smart enough to know, they aren't presidential material.
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Jody, you are cute with your SOP lefty liberal deflection. The lefty liberal low information voters look to morons like the Rev. and Mr. Ed for guidance on what is acceptable lefty liberalism, and who/what they should be demonizing to fit in, and who they should vote for in the Presidential election. How do you think Dems get elected?? That's why I watch these clowns, they are best comedy shows on TV.
BTW, Please remember that the Dems recently considered The Rev. as a credible Dem candidate for President.
President Rev. Al.......
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Joe...you maybe right about where Some people get their"guidance" It Is also Fact...The Right..Think TEABAGGERS (like all Rep) Get the news/insight/thought patterns from the likes of Perry, Ryan, Palin, Bachman, Trump, Bush, Chaney, Koch Bro. ,Rush, Fox, KKK and any other group who knows how simple they are. I'm sorry for those other Genius's I missed...but the list is Way To Long
To the immigration point made by John of AZ --
This is not very significant considering that under Dubya the flood of illegals across the Arizona border near Tucson alone was around 2,000 a day. This policy only involves those brought here as children who have no criminal record, and who either intend to pursue college education (good luck with that now that Pell Grants are gone) or who enlist in the military.
Granted, this is implementing the Dream Act in small part without passage through congress. It is being done in response to Hispanic groups who feel the president has not done enough toward immigration reform. My position has always been; 1) that people become citizens legally, and 2) that the opportunity be made available to people around the world and not just to a flood of folks south of our border. The enforcement that has brought these individuals to deportation in the first place has been much better under Presdient Obama, which is the larger issue.
Is this being done to garner the Latino vote? Sure, but at least it's not a free-for-all like it was under Bush, who was narrowly elected thanks to the Latino vote (in those days based on Catholic anti-abortion values). So boo-hoo all you want, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and the LGBT vote will be retained as well. And if you think Perry would get minority votes, especially the black vote, good luck on that too.
Joe -- Al and Ed are not aired during prime time, with Ed competing with Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. I would hardly classify them as the folks liberals look to for guidance. But it sure as heck beats FOX Noise and Hate Radio if you really want to go there.
Now about Perry, and his dog whistles and willingness to say any stupid thing to be popular with the GOP/TP base, this is the epitome of appealing to low-information voters. Whether it's showing no understanding of monetary policy and just throwing out buzzwords like "printing more money," or how he would destroy buzzword "Obamacare" after a ruling against the mandate by the Supreme Court are large gaffes and he's only a few days into his campaign. He's not going to last with the national electorate.
The media hasn't focused on Perry's worst trait of all, and that's his unwillingness to compromise--even his supporters will tell you this. In these times of polarization and gridlock, an idiot who stays the course is the last thing our nation needs in the White House.
Joe in Albany,
If you replace the "lefty liberal" words in your posts with just "LL", maybe your posts would end up half they're length and we'd still know what you're crowing about.
Joe -- Al and Ed are not aired during prime time, with Ed competing with Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. I would hardly classify them as the folks liberals look to for guidance.
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The Rev. is on at 6:00 Eastern, and one thing I Iearned growing up in a union neighborhood is that Democrats eat supper at 5:30 and Republican's dine at 8:00. 6:00 is prime time for Dem low information voters. This is the slot Mr. Ed used to have before the planet's biggest pompous A$$, Keith Olbermann, self-destructed and Mr.Ed got promoted to the Peter-primciple-filled MSDNC "big league". And that horse's a$$ Mr. Ed is on at 10:00 Eastern, which is prime time for morons with no lives to distract them from lefty liberal stupidity-quest.
If you replace the "lefty liberal" words in your posts with just "LL", maybe your posts would end up half they're length and we'd still know what you're crowing about.
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Tom, do you live near Cape Canaveral??
Because you sound like you are an unemployed rocket scientist.
OK, now we know where Perry is for today, he's channelling Pres. George W. Bush with his "signing memoradums." Those were the documents "W" would use to instruct the Executive branch to ignore the law, even as he was approving it by signing. It was a rather cowardly way to veto part of legislation without actually vetoing the entire law. It was also blatantly unconstitutional.
Perry's statement that he would use Executive orders to circumvent existing law should tell us that he too feels that he is above the law. President Obama, while not defending every law (DOMA) in court, still enforces it. What will be interesting to see is if someone takes the Immigration service to court to force it to enforce the immigration law.
Joe in Albany...
Better an unemployed rocket scientist than a full time douche bag...if you get my drift! Your Conservative pseudo-speak is laughable and quite mis-informed. It's really enjoyable watching Conservatives grasp at self serving untruths to comfort themselves due to the impending doom of a party with absolutely no identity. Its amazing that a small group of mindless, selfish, narcissistic political Troglodytes like the Tea Party has brought the mainstream GOP to it's knees. Kind of like getting beat up by a sissy on the playground in front of everybody. Good luck on November 6, 2012...you're gonna need it with the likes of Perry, Bachmann, and Romney! LMFAO!
Joe,
No, an employed Mechanical Engineer. Been at the same place for the last 16 years, prior to that I worked as a Defense Contractor for 9 years on the beltway outside of DC. Before that I shipped in the Navy on submarines. Before that, I went to high school in Wappingers Falls, NY where I grew up pretty close to Albany. Used to vote Republican, but they're now way to nutty for me. Thanks for your interest in my life.
You can google "Tamarac, FL" and see how close to Cape Canaveral I am (not). I'm in good old south Florida.
Tom & Mucker: just an FYI... in case you were not aware of it, the little ! box allows you to ignore certain trolls who repeatedly spew forth their venom and vitriol without adding a coherant thought to the coversation. Don't feed the trolls, just ignore them. Eventually they'll go away.
Tom:
Thank you for your service fellow shipmate. I am second generation Navy and my daughter is third generation. The first generation my grandfather who came over from Italy was Army. So we have been here in the USA a short time only 4 generations but we have had a family member represent our great Country in the Armed Services all four generations. WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam and Current.
President Obama is wildly unpopular due to his failed leftist economic policies, and failed stimulus.
But he can always pivot and tout his singular accomplishment- ObamaCare!
(What? That is wildly unpopular, too?)
His campaign team will quickly pivot to its fallback campaign strategy -"Perry is gay"
Perry's sexual preference is a non issue. Other than the Teabaggers, no one really cares. Perry is going to do himself in. He is too far right.
Slick Rick still does not realize that he's not just in Texas anymore!
The Healthcare Reform Act passed by Congress and signed by President Obama reduces the federal deficit by 130 billion in the first ten years.
So, Governor Perry is saying he doesn't care about debt reduction and deficits?
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10731/Reid_letter_11_18_09.pdf
obamacare is a complete obamanation! Even obama has indicated he has second thought about the very expensive pink elephant he created! But these days he'll say anything at all to appeal to the voters, but we all have learned his promises usually go unfullfilled.
If Perry says he will fix it, he will! 65% of the country (meaning those who actually pay their taxes) doesn't want it and all obama can do is flipflop.... lol what a joke, but we shouldn't be to harsh... remember he's still in training!
Nothing Obama has done the last 3 years has worked! We're still going downhill with no brakes...!
The problem with obamacare that it is the most expensive 'pink elephants' in his portfolio, lol! And presented during the worse economy we've had in modern history! The military has a term for this and would characterize obamacare and his presidency as 'fubar'!
Rick Perry is the polar opposite of Obama, and his ratings are climbing, while obama's ratings are dropping!
Well, Amy, not really.
Those CBO figures are based off projected 6% GDP growth, low unemployment, etc.
Basically, they're a big pile of garbage. Now, if someone had thought to run the figure with the REAL economic situation and not fantasyland, who know what it would say.
But anything using baseline budgeting practices is, by nature, a non-exact science to say the least.
I, personally, agree with the individual mandate. I don't like paying for other people's healthcare. I'm sort of shocked the republicans haven't hopped on that train, they usually don't like paying the way of others either.
Why doesn't someone (hey you, reporter!) challenge Gov. Perry's assertions....what specific part of the ACA does he feel is a burden on the states? How long has that part of the law been in practice in Texas? What would he do as President to get the same results (everyone covered under health care)?
Bill Thomas-2852155
Please be specific as to what provisions in "Obamacares" you disagree with.
Is it the 130 billion reduction in our deficit over the first ten years?
Is it the subsidies to small business so they can afford to offer their employees health insurance?
Is it the insurance pool for patients with pre-existing conditions which was created in 2010 and will be replaced in 2014 when health care exchanges become available. Premiums for these high risk individuals will be set at the same rate as the general population.
Do you hate the idea that low income people and the self employed will be able to buy affordable health insurance policies through Health Exchange Programs administered at the state level?
Do you object to adult children being allowed to stay on their parents' healthcare plans to age 26?
Is it the enhanced fraud detection measurements in this bill you object to?
Please, help me to understand, what exactly you object to in the Healthcare Reform Act. I've included a link explaining just what is entailed in "Obamacares," in case you don't understand, like many Americans, exactly what it entails. http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/order/byyear.html
@teknishan--good post! Thanks!
teknishan
The estimate that the Healthcare Reform Act will reduce our federal deficit by $130 billion was arrived at by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, not by the Obama administration or liberal economists.
If you think those numbers are "garbage" because they are based on 6% GDP growth and low unemployment, you are ignoring the cost of not covering people during tough economic times. We all know people end up in emergency rooms if they don't have health insurance, at more advanced stages of illness, so large numbers of uninsured people will be more expensive than if you covered those people in the first place. Hence, we may not end up saving $130 billion, but if HCR were repealed, it would end up costing us more on top of what we already pay.
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=1750
libertyforyou said:
So you agree with the personal mandate? In a later post you bash ACA. Which is it? You hate it or support it?
TO: Bill Thomas-2852155 who wrote:
obamacare is a complete obamanation! Even obama has indicated he has second thought about the very expensive pink elephant he created! ... If Perry says he will fix it, he will! 65% of the country (meaning those who actually pay their taxes) doesn't want it..."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, 75% of the country (meaning those of us who actually pay our taxes) doesn't want another idiot from Texas who makes up numbers, makes promises he can't possibly keep (to repeal HCR by Executive Order), and the only folks who like him are the same kind of yo-yo that he is.
I'm with you American Girl - I've had about all the texasss nonsense I can handle in this lifetime. Just can't seem to figure out why they grown them so stupid down there and then elect them to run the place - oh yeah, it's the oil isn't it? It's all about the oil and all those billionairs who are so patriotic they can't do the one thing a true patriot really does - pay their taxes without all those breaks and loopholes.
@Bryan E PA
Just said it was a good post. Didn't say what I agreed with.
I agree that I don't believe the Health Care will save one thin dime. Not in 10 years, not in 100 yrs.
Also, it was a good post because it was informative and not combative, name calling, etc that is so prevalent here on First Read.
Gotta run, be back later.
I dont understand why you progressives hate Perry because of his pandering to the religious right during the primaries? Didnt Obama pander to the radical far left loonies to get the primary nod? Up until it was discovered wasnt he hanging out with Ayers the terrorist, Jeremiah Wright and his religious crowd (and how is that different than hanging with conservative religious people or is the race thing that makes it ok to be in a black church that condemns homosexuality?), the community organizing crooked socialist Acorn crowd, etc. Obama had to hang with the lets ban circumcision crowd and the environmental greenie nuts who want to save snail darts over creating jobs to get the primary nod. Then he pandered to the wealthy NY elite until he got elected and who knows what he stands for now. If you think Obama's policies or positions on the economy are better than Perry's prove it? Since the entire sum of Obama's track record is as president (since he had no prior economic experience) its pretty easy to judge and then compare that to Perrys. You can vote based on the records then, this concept of he is too right wing or he prays is just so shrill, naive and lacks any real credibility or use of critical thinking skills by you posters. Do you not have the ability to consider the issues and think?
Amy, dont you read the WSJ? that estimate of savings has been debunked for a long time. That included $500 billion of medicare savings that they now eliminated it also was based on a 10 year model in which the tax revenue was collected in the first 4 years while benefits were paid out slowly after that. On an annual run rate basis it was always a big loser. Now that the real facts have come out to show that as the new estimates of up to 80 million of employees who get employer coverage will lose their insurance under the law as opposed to the original estimates, these people will go into the exchanges because its cheaper for the corporations to pay the fine than provide coverage, the fines are way below the cost estimates which now add trillions to the cost of Obamacare and of course there are the new regulations like the ones set out last week that said that now all insurance must cover woman contraceptives, wellness screening and certain tests which dramatically increase the cost of insurance werent in the the CBOs estimates. Sorry you are far behind in your analysis you need to get up to speed.
As for all those coverages, nobody is against any additional medical coverage isnt it about how we pay for it and who pays for it? If someone came along and said we are now going to pay for all wellness screening for people who live in Fargo ND but the cost will be spread around to everyone, you might object to having to pay for someone living in fargo ND. Thats the issue. If we cover everyone up to age 26, that just increases the medical cost and insurance or premiums for everyone so maybe the people with kids under age 26 should pick up most if not all that additional cost etc.
Kirk - the News Corp. Wall Street Journal ? The same company which owns Fox News. The same company operated by Rupert (I don't know nothin' about hacking) Murdoch ?
In case you hadn't figured it out, the Affordable Care Act IS intended to make it possible for EVERYONE to have basic health insurance coverage. The individual mandate (the part TeaPublicans hate) spreads the cost to EVERYONE. If only those who are, or are more likely to be, sick pay for health insurance, of course it is more expensive. Mandating that everyone have health insurace includes those who are less likely to be ill, lowering the premiums for everyone.
Many of those who are not currently covered by health insurance become ill or injured. If they are not making enough to pay the cost of medical treatment, that gets written off by the providers and we all pay a little more anyway. That is how it is now. The cost of medical treatment should be reduced (or at least not increase as much) once universal coverage takes place. Likewise, the annual double digit increases in insurance cost should be less in the future.
BTW, for all of you who keep saying it: yes, Obama Cares.
Kind of just the opposite of the TeaPublicans, who just don't care.
Well, Amy, I did acknowledge they were from the CBO.
I am, flat-out, calling the CBO useless and dismissing any findings they post 'out of hand'. I stated why, above.
I agree with the mandate in that I like to limit my own liability, and that of my employees, against others who don't have healthcare. I don't like paying for other people's healthcare and am glad we're forcing everyone to carry it.
But I'm not getting carried away and posting a bunch of already disproved notions and fallacies regarding it. I'm saying it's good cuz I'm more capitalist than anything else and it limits the regular taxpayer exposure to risk, not that it's good because it's a 'cure all' for anything. Or even cures one thing.
Or, to break it into simple micro-economic terms, it removes risk from my balance sheet and sticks it somewhere else :) Transfer of Risk.
dirp, I dont think anyone thinks of the WSJ as biased regardless of ownership otherwise why does anyone read MSN come on there is legitimate news. I dont have a problem with universal care if it works but I dont believe it will reduce costs without vastly decreasing the current benefits we receive. There is no evidence that the current 85 percent who have health coverage need to pick up the cost to include the other 15% in a way that increases medical care and the health of those 15%. I have no problem figuring out a cost effective manner of providing health care that actually increases the quality of care commensurate with the cost.
Kirk: the WSJ is biased, but at least you are correct, they do tend to have accurate reporting. I don't have all of the answers on reducing the cost of health care and providing high quality care either. I do know that every year for the past 20 years I have seen health insurance premiums go up by no less than 10% per year. Aside from the increases in the cost of a colleges education, I can't think of one other area that is increasing so much.
I do think that removing the ability of insurers to put double digit increases in premiums each year would be one step. Also, elimination of the profit motive by going to a single payer program would help. Medicare for all would work, if the cost of it were reflected in the premiums.
So, Governor Perry, you'd rather have someone do the work on the individual mandate for you? Why? If you think it's so wrong why not deal with it yourself if you're elected?
Perry's Supreme Court only has three members.
I don't think he'll be happy with the ruling...
obamacare is a complete obamanation! Even obama has indicated he has second thought about the very expensive pink elephant he created! But these days he'll say anything at all to appeal to the voters, but we all have learned his promises usually go unfullfilled.
If Perry says he will fix it, he will! 65% of the country doesn't want it and obama is flipflopping.... lol what a joke, but we shouldn't be to harsh... remember he's still in training!
Did you come up with that all by yourself? Thought not, parrot.
Bill...Where did you Get the Idea? Mr Obama has changed his mind on health-care? From Fox, Rush? before you puppet anyone else gibberish, read the 1200+page bill. I have. You or anyone (including both for and against) should comment on anything They have not taken the time to read.
Bill Thomas, still waiting for you to tell us which provision in "Obama-cares" you have a problem with and why? Also, where do you get your healthcare coverage and what do you have to do to get it?
Sorry Amy B.;
They have no specifics, only RNC talking points and spin that the handbook tells them they must spew long, loud and often, regardless of truth and facts. All they can do is repeat the right wing criticisms and sales pitch the wingnuts used to try to prevent healthcare reform. They do not know nor understand the correct principles and goal of the bill, but only jump on the bandwagon and join with the wealthy corporations that stand to have profits reduced when the act is fully implemented (excessive profits that will stay in OUR pockets instead of goint to them!)
Healthcare reform has become a popularity contest, overly hyped (by both sides) to the citizens. A whole lot of money has been invested, particularly by those opposed to the idea, to gain public support for or against. Delve through the sales pitches and it becomes clear that HCR is necessary; what was passed is not what it should be (160 Republican amendments added, mostly "pork" for their lobbyists and supporters) and needs corrections, modifications and improvement. But it is a begining, and we can build from this base.
Naysays should get off that partisan bandwagon and stop trying to illogically place blame on the President for his inspired leadership in this historic accomplishment.
Once again Big Hat No Cattle !
More like Big Ego No Brain!
I'm sorry, but not for one minute do I believe it will reduce the deficit one thin dime. Not in ten years, not in 100 years.
@John in Tucson--yep--like the Back Door Dream Act. If we let him get away with giving away something that isn't his to give we're in trouble.
The God that Perry worships is quite busy---He has to keep all the Republican candidates for President informed of who he has chosen and now He has to oversee the federal judiciary.
SF: but the TeaPublicans keep telling us that President Obama is "The Chosen One" so how could any of them be chosen ?
This guy is a big joke.
Perry is like a Low-Class Southern Bigotry TURD that want flush.
Nickolodeon Job1, or maybe the Disney site. My 11 year old would think that is hilarious.
Turd jokes are all the rage at the Junior High.
WCA---maybe you can explain why George Bush called Karl Rove "turb blossom" then.
Perry is nothing but a big blow hard sounding off to the base believers who do not have the good sense to realize that the health care law protects them from insurance company profit mongers. Just once it would be nice to hear a GOPTPer explain exactly why the law is evil and it would be nice if the media actually asked these yahoos some tough questions about it. Simply being against it because I said so doesn't cut it. Big government doesn't count as a reason because private insurance is still the only option until you turn 65; all HCR does is tell insurance companies they can't cancel insurance if you get sick, they can't discriminate against you if you have a pre-existing condition. We have death panels, it is called private insurance. To my knowledge, he can't do much with an E.O., the law is the law. President Obama could not issue an E.O. to undo DADT, it had to be repealed by Congress.
My objection to the anti-government crowd is that I prefer not to live in a place where there are no laws to protect citizens and that's exactly what Cowboy Rick and friends think would be just dandy--a return to the Wild, Wild West where anything goes. Thanks, but no thanks.
Did you read his remarks?????? He said he would cancel what "HE COULD" through EO. There are provisions in there that can be cancelled and basically make it null and void.
Obama got that passed because he had a Democrat controlled Congress and Senate. Do you think it would be passed now? So don't act like he really compromised and was able to achieve legislation based upon because "he is so great." BTW: Where are all of those blue dog democrats that helped him pass it?
Perry is not going to repeal anything, because he is not going to be elected. American is not that stupid.
Job1 - Don't be to sure, people like you and the left wingnuts got Obama elected so I guess Americans are that stupid. How's that hope and change working for you?
It working pretty good.
sfcret: Who were they supposed to vote for? McCain and Palin? An old warhawk and a birdbrain, we didn't have much choice. If we did the economy would be worse, we'd be in 10 wars, and Palin would be changing all our history books to match her ignorance of it.
....and there is still no choice on the TP/GOP side!
If they had been smart they would have voted for Hillary during the primary, and I believe she would have won. Anybody, even McCain would be better than Obama. Look what we got with an egoist that had a super majority in the congress, Waste of almost a trillion in stimulus, an ACA that over 60% of the people didn't want, almost a complete shut down of oil exploration in the U.S., another war in Libya that has cost over $1 billion so far and counting, increase in unemployment, no job creations, still bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan, just to name a few.BTW, the economy is becoming worse under Obama so I doubt it would have been worse under McCain.
Perry also should be familiar with the mandate process, since his position on mandates has flip-flopped since 2007 when he decided that a EO was needed to create a mandate to vaccinate preteen girls.
But hey, he has had a lot on his plate dragging Texas down in every category from education to immigration. But to here him tell it, Texas would be a better country than the USA...
Perry got paid by the maker of the vacinne. The TeaPublicans haven't figured out how to get paid under the ACA yet. If they had bothered to participate in its passage, Big Pharma, the insurance industry, the medical industry would be lined up, throwing money at them. They decided it would be better to rail against an inevitable law. The law could have been so much better if they had embraced it.
An example, Medicare Part D, it does actually help a huge number of seniors. Since both sides embraced the law, it does help everyone. Now they just need to pay for it. That WILL require an adjustment to the Medicare taxes. That is not a real problem, they should just increase the medicare tax from the 1.45 it is now to 2.35... thus SS & Medicare would be 10%. for that matter, they could increase the SS portion as well and those issues would go away.
I wonder what he has in mind for healthcare considering he has such a high rate of employed but uninsured people and such of a high rate of uninsured children in in Tex ass.
They don't tell you idiots that the reason the number is high on the uninsured is because they are counting all of the illegals in Texas.
Every number the media produces include ILLEGALS.
Mexicans have been dropping out of school at alarming rates for decades. That is nothing new.
Minimum wage = JOB......
Are the illegals living in texas? are they employed? are they uninsured? then they count ITM. Stop boo-whooing. It make you look petty.
"Texas governor Rick Perry said God is calling on him to run for President. But Michele Bachmann said that god is calling on her to run for President. You know, if God is that indecisive, he's probably for Mitt Romney." –Jay Leno
Surprised that mommy and daddy let you stay up late to watch Leno, there Job1.
WCA,
ZING! You got 'im there!!!!
What do you call 1000 Rick Perry supporters at a fund raiser banquet?
The Low-Class Southern Suburban Bigotry Committee.
Speaking of mommy and daddy, Ted do your parents know your on the internet?
Have you noticed the more a canidate thumps a bible the wackier they are. I'm a TRUE CHRISTIAN.
As a Canadian watching this from up north, it's really sad to watch the US imploding like this. Obama...far from perfect but Good Lord, some guy who doesn't believe in evolution is a serious candidate for President?!!!! Wow, if he gets in, I bet our Immigration department up here gets really, really busy.
If America elects Perry, i would consider moving to Toronto. Hell, used to work for Weston Foods and would love to be back with that outfit.
Be careful what we wish for. The Right's hatred of Obama will by far overcome their distrust of Romney. If Perry and Bachman are knocked out too soon (don't make it to S.C.), then Romney can devote all his time, money and energy to Obama much earlier. And from the independents' point of view they may see the GOP's shift away from Perry and Bachman as a demonstration that the GOP is moderate and reasonable. In other words, Perry may be the perfect foil to make Romney look electable and presidential.
The Gods must be crazy..go perry hahahah
you tea baggers do know he is half Mexican..is that going to be a problem electing him as you president..since yall dont like half and half.kind of people.
I know of another great governor who refuses HCR and the $billions$ and jobs that it would have created, Rick Scot of Florida. A GOP who brought his TEA party members with him when he became governor. He now states he pays $30 a month for himself and his wife for health insurance. And the rest of the people in the state have to go without, cost too much, or pay $400 - $500 a month. And he is a millionaire and could probably or does have his own doctor's office in his home. The people of the state are sending him PINK SLIPS.
American workers you really dont want healhcare..
Climate Blame was not environmentalism. It was a 25 year old
” worst case scenario” theory turned death warrant to billions of children by selfish
leftists and thoughtless media, exploiting scientists, pandering politicians
and shameless media. Meanwhile, theUN
had allowed carbon trading stock markets run by corporations and politicians to
trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education
for just over 25 years of climate CONTROL instead of the obviously needed
POPULATION control. This wasn’t about a climate change; it was about
controlling a changing climate with taxes and sacrifice and we former believers
promise you that history will call this a dark age for environmentalism. Maybe
they will call it EnvironMENTALism?
Let’s play “one of these things is not like the other” :
-comet hits, volcanoes, catalytic converter gas, forest
fires, tsunamis, cold climate variation, hot climate variation………..the powers
of the Cosmos……………….Nature……………………….
Climate Change was climate variation for Omen Worshipers.
“Just look all around you and see the changes! We must be doing something to
our planet.” And superstition too. Meanwhile, the lab coat consultants called
saintly scientists studied the effects of something that hasn’t happened for 25
years and called it “crisis” to keep the gravy train chugging along.
REAL planet lovers are glad it was all a tragic
exaggeration.
It’s not a crime for a scientist to study the effects of a
predicted CO2 climate crisis. And the predicted dire consequences for this
worst case scenario that they called “climate change”, are as real as the
headlines and the IPCC reports and as real as the 25 years of CO2 crisis
warnings. And nobody can honestly be accused of perpetrating a hoax or any
criminal act because this was well intentioned exaggeration dressed up as a
scientific theory and further legitimized by a rage of political correctness
not seen since Germany in 1936.
And here is proof that the scientists exploited the
exaggeration:
The thousands of consensus scientists are predicting a comet
hit of an emergency called catastrophic climate change yet their ranks far
outnumber the climate change protesters. So the predictors of doom care less about any crisis than the few
protestors do and if this really WAS an emergency like “THEY” say it is, “THEY”
would be the ones “ACTING” like its’ the emergency “THEY” say it is. Lab coat
consultants have kids too don’t they?
Ignring that doctors will opt out of this system to ACTUALLY be paid for their years and money invested, as well as lower the standard of care for everybody to cover illegals and deadbeats. Only a bleeding heart liberal would ignore the whole personal responsibility concept. Liberals make me want to puke.
Why would doctors be paid any differently since we will have our same insurance companies, as imperfect as they are? If doctors don't accept insurance payments, they'll have to choose a different career. Who can afford to pay cash for their medical bills? That's the root of the problem (the high cost of the care itself).
Also, we already pay for those who get medical care without paying anything--they raise the rates for all of us. How about the tea-partier I talked to recently (a 60-year-old white dude who doesn't have insurance because he quit his job and has pre-existing conditions and doesn't qualify for Medicare yet)--his triple by-pass was written off by the hospital because he had no means to pay. The surgery saved his life, and he said, "Who needs insurance? I didn't have to pay a dime." THAT attitude makes me sick!!
When I read this at Houston & Texas new about health care in Texas. I nearly fell out of my chair. The nerve of this Secessionist to tell us how American should be run when his own state is such a mess. 24 percent of Texan children live in poverty and of 26 percent of its citizens lack health insurance, Texas ranks the worst in the nation for health care coverage. Premiums are well above the national average. The number of Texans who qualify for Medicaid has grown 80 percent since 2001. While Perry trumpets the state's balanced budget (lie Texas debt hovers around $27B - borrows money from fed to pay bills), he fails to mention that lawmakers this year cut $805 million from doctors serving Medicaid patients, and that they also postponed $4 billion in Medicaid costs for payment in the next budget cycle. In other words he has already started gutting Medicaid Texas just imagine what he would do as President. I don’t want this man anywhere near the White House or our national budget.
he couldn't screw it up any worse than it already is
......and our Illegal Immigrant population has grown 60% in the last 10yrs, so where in the hell do you think those numbers are mostly coming from?
This is the kind of distortions that the rest of you don't realize. BTW: MOst of the major news publications in Texas are Liberal. I'll just take what they say about a Republican with a grain of salt.
i just had to "Unlike" Msnbc's Facebook page-- apparently no one is filtering out the f word on there and i don't need to read that
oh well!
Oh goodie, since the State of Texas "Mandates" we have insurance to drive a car and they "Mandate" we have pollution test done on our vehicles to comply with the Federal environmental laws that the TP and GOP are against. The supreme court may make Mandates unconstitutional!!!
Perry is just spouting off stuff TP people want to hear him say. He is searching for which party is going to support him before he commits to TP or Repub.