Rick Perry called the idea of a wall across the entire U.S.-Mexico border “ridiculous” today in a stop in New Hampshire.
“You got strategic fencing in some of the metropolitan areas – it’s very helpful,” the Texas governor said. “But the idea that you’re going to build a wall from Brownsville to El Paso is just -- it’s ridiculous on its face.”
That was in the context of Perry saying how he'd asked Washington for 1,000 National Guard troops and how current efforts at border security are ineffective.
Perry swatted at the Obama administration’s assertion that the “border is safer than it’s ever been.”
“Six week ago, the president went to El Paso and sai the border is safer than it’s ever been,” Perry began. “I have no idea, maybe he was talking about the Canadian border. I will assure you one thing, if I’m president of the United States, the border will be secure.”
In June, the AP wrote of the border:
“It's one of the safest parts of America, and it's getting safer. … The four big cities in America with the lowest rates of violent crime are all in border states: San Diego, Phoenix, El Paso and Austin, according to a new FBI report. And an in-house Customs and Border Protection report shows that Border Patrol agents face far less danger than street cops in most U.S. cities. The Customs and Border Protection study, obtained with a Freedom of Information Act request, shows 3 percent of Border Patrol agents and officers were assaulted last year, mostly when assailants threw rocks at them. That compares with 11 percent of police officers and sheriff's deputies assaulted during the same period, usually with guns or knives. In addition, violent attacks against agents declined in 2009 along most of the border for the first time in seven years. So far this year assaults are slightly up, but data is incomplete.”


HAHAHA!
So much for anti- BIG Gubmnet!
Another BS grifter who runs to the gubment trough for a refill when needed!
I'm starting to think the clock is running out on his 15 minutes...
Just noticed an article on Move-on:
Dear America, Sorry about Rick Perry,
Sincerely, Texas
Those comments fit right in.
Hey, give Mr. Fiscal Responsibility a break.
After all, bullets are so much cheaper than fences.
Ron Indiana
Dear America, Sorry about Rick Perry,
Sincerely, Texas
Those comments fit right in.
Hi neighbor
Did you see this? No wonder Trick Rick doesn't want a border wall; Ron
Drug Trafficking.
Jack Schumacher, a recently retired Texas-based DEA agent, told New York Magazine that at least half the drug shipments coming from Mexico stop and offload in Texas, where it is repackaged for sale elsewhere.
That means the money that comes with the drug trade also flows through Texas, driving consumption and investment in the state and possibly contributing substantially to the state’s economy.
“If you have a few million,” Schumacher said in the article, “would you invest in a war zone or a bank in San Antonio?
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/07/ten-reasons-why-the-texas-economy-is-growing-that-have-nothing-to-do-with-rick-perry/
"I will assure you one thing, if I’m president of the United States, the border will be secure.”
Just how are you gonna do that Rick?
This snake oil salesman just will not stop talking......aka Wasilla Village Idiot.
Feisty Deadhead Roselle, ILL
You DO realize that our military is one of the few Constitutionally mandated enumerated powers right? You know, that document you Liberal Progressives have been trampling on for decades.
It makes sense though. I doubt any of you Liberal Progressives understand our Federal Constitutional Republic. You all believe we live in a Democracy.
Such is your shameful disgrace.
Not much for the Constitution, huh?
Isn't defending the country in the first line of the Constitution? The federal government isn't supposed to secure the borders?
All that money from Texas and Arizona, and the federal government isn't supposed to do what is required by the Constitution?
They don't get any of THEIR MONEY back?
A little federal government can do it, why can't a massive big government do it - not a enough money left after free birth control pills for everybody (is that in the Constitution?)
Under Obama - apparently not.
Only 129 miles of the 1,954 mile Mexican border are secure. Obama doesn't even make any pretense about deporting anyone anymore - must need those Hispanic votes really really badly.
This coming from the guy that used that $10 million in Stimulus Money to sell 2,500 AK-47s, .50 cal. sniper rifles, etc. to the drug cartels - weapons that have already KILLED TWO AMERICAN AGENTS and countless Mexicans.
Who's the real political p.o.s.?
We get that, markmich, which was why the National Guard was available for Bush to exploit so shamelessly for his little Iraq adventure.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
We silly liberals seem to disagree as to whether this is the appropriate use of the National Guard. Wouldn't the military regulars be better suited for that, while the Guard stays where they are pursuing their careers in medicine, law, and other areas?
And does Perry really think it costs nothing to maintain the Guard?
By the way, I think it's unfair to say that liberals are "disconnected" with the Constitution. Some of us even have training in the Constitution.
And we're not the ones who want to gut everything in the Constitution except the 2d Amendment and whatever additional authority may be necessary to ban gay marriage and control women's reproductive rights.
That's your side.
Why my little pet Roomba - wasn't it only last weekend tea baggin Perry was hollerin about making the Gubment as inconsequential as possible?
Isn't the military part of that evil gubment?
Thought so..
PS: You think about recharging your battery - it's painful to watch you continue to bang your head off the walls... lol
In all my years serving in the military I have never met anyone who called themselves Liberal. Imagine that...
Sheez ...... it never amazes me how dense you are, how you support our argument and don't even realize it.
To explain it to you ..... yea, if the federal government quietly did its job, secured the border, we wouldn't have to deal with the consequences of their not doing their job, the conseguences of agents being killed, the consequences of drug problems, the consequences of over-taxed school systems, health care .......
Recharging my battery?
At least I'm not dumber than a dead Duracell.
Sorry booby - the argument IS Perry wants to eliminate the evil government but, has no compunction of sticking his paws out for assistance when he needs it...
All your spin on birth control & over taxed schools doesn't change a thing...
If you won't recharge your battery - at least put on your tin foil helmet will ya?
You got one quote pigeon breath?
One little quote where Perry says "I want to eliminate government?"
You realize smaller government is different from no government, right?
Can't back up anything can ya.
How will Perry pay to have the borders secure when he is President?
You might want to heed your own advice booby... lmao!
God ......
nevermind
anyway, I was mocking laurie's hypocrisy - that is - I hadn't called anyone a name, that Feisty had called names (greedy bastards) - that what she was saying about me didn't apply to me - it applied to Feisty.
Hence I said ...... let me help you. I took her quote, her exact words, replaced my name and replaced it with Feisty -mockingly "helping her." That is the quote you used.
Are you really this dense, this stupid?
Go back and read it 5-6 times real slowly ...... with your paw if necessary.
But other than your pathetic deflection - YOU CAN'T BACK IT UP, HUH?
No quote from Governor Goodhair?
So are you intentional liar - or just out of your league? (old mascots don't count as real players ya know)
I myself have read the Constitution many times.
Also, who do you folks on the GOP support for President? Just wondering.
Feisty Deadhead Roselle, ILL
Perry said,,,
Your delusional interpretation is,,,
Only in the "Constitution is a living document" delusional brain of a Liberal Progressive can this make sense.
And then Anna Molly chimes in with,,,
Really?
What training would that be? The one where Barrack Hussein demonizes the Constitution as a charter of negative liberties rather than his socialist goal of it being a charter of positive liberties. If you don't know what that means you need to brush up on your "training". Constitutional Originalists know exactly why it is a charter of negative liberties. Modernists, Literalists and those who believe it as a form of normative reinforcement can't.
markmich -- Did you know the military is government run, like education, and Medicare? Yep, it's just more of that darn socialism! If you're not a prior troll that was banned, just keep up the ad hominem attacks, and we'll see how long you last.
TO: bob-1805084 who wrote:
"...Not much for the Constitution, huh? Isn't defending the country in the first line of the Constitution?"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes, and the second line says that the United States shall provide for the general welfare of the American People, but half the Republicans never read that far, and the other half thinks that means "welfare check."
TruePatriot-445959
Ahhhh TruePatriot-445959, you do your name a terrible injustice. Only a non-Constitutional Originalist believes that education and Medicare are Enumerated Powers. Show me where in the Constitution government is required to provide education or health care? I can show you where the military is mandated in Article 1, Section 8. This is the exact argument I just gave above in the interpretation of negative vs. positive liberties. It seems you have accepted Barrack Hussein's incorrect interpretation simply because he said so. Even arguing it against the Supreme Courts ruling during the civil rights debate. It seems your Patriotism only extends to your irrational interpretations of what you WANT, rather than factual Constitutional law.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
How incredibly hypocritical. Your minions on here belittle others as Rethuglicans, Teabaggers and any other scope of vitriol and YOU accuse others of ad hominem attacks? This is the typical defense mechanisms that you Liberal Progressives use.
Censure.
It happens here, on the Huff-N-Puff Post, Menial Matters and other socialist sites and you Liberals accept it a a badge of courage.
Cowards!
I chose my moniker long ago (before the Teabagger movement) precisely in contrast to those who claim to be patriotic but in fact are not. They think reading the constitution on the floor makes then patriotic. How about paying your friggin' taxes, enlisting, or volunteering, or anything but historically inaccurate reenactments of the Civil War?
Let's make this a lot easier, and you tell us which amendments Perry supports (besides owning a gun)? Let's face it, conservatives are all about the constitution when it suits them, but are the first to want to amend it--or in Perry's case throw most of the amendments out.
BTW, "Teabagger" was a term started by the Tea Party. Barrack Hussein Obama is his name, so what? Are you in the fifth grade or something?
It is McConnell who proudly admits the nation is a hostage worth ransom, the Tea Party that cheered when S&P downgraded our credit rating, and the GOP/TP who are cowards hiding behind their filibusters and fake primaries and lies instead of presenting real solutions.
Passing legislation that is so radical you know it can never become law is symbolism that wastes time and the tax payer's money. So far the Republican House has produced something like 14 bills, most of which just names buildings, compared to Pelosi's first term with 304 bills--many of which were very significant. We should change the GOP to the POS Party.
It is you and your minions who should feel shame.
Enumerated Powers
What is this absurd obsession with "enumerated powers"?
When the Constitution was written the colonies had a total population of 2.5 million.
I don't think that the founding fathers believed that they had carved the Constitution in stone. That's why they made it amendable, so that it could grow and change as America grows and changes.
There is no way the founding fathers could have possibly envisioned what a nation of 330 million would need 250 years later.
The "enumerated powers" were the basics. The Constitution was never meant to bind us to the past. If we don't grow and change and meet the needs of our society today we atrophy and die.
How could anyone expect the founding fathers to enumerate what the nation would need as time progressed?
This argument about enumerated powers is made by those who would throw us back centuries. I think that the Americans want, need and appreciate progress.
WOW!
So what do 310 million people need thats different than 2.5 million people needed?
You're kidding, right?
Perry is just a presumptuous and a hypocrite who thinks that he can have it in his heart to leave the Union and get support to be our president. On one side he prays on the other he brags about creating minimum wage jobs that keep the poor poorer, in Texas the gap between rich and poor is greater than most states and the middle class is almost non existent. It is time he practice what the God he prays to command to be practice, other wise he and his followers will be put to the left of the one they worship. (Mathew 25: 31-46)
I will not vote Republican again if they pay me. No amount will be enough to assure me that they are not racists and that they will stop at nothing just to see this president fail. If the president is supported in his efforts and he fail, well that is just what Bush did and no one noticed, he failed. But when they just sabotage every effort without giving support and while hurting the country at the same time, it is immoral and unconscionable. Republicans and tea partiers do not want to improve the economy they just do not like Obama not because of his policies or vision but because he is of a different race.
And what of the non-whites that don't like your little god/president?
I agree with you and I am a Texan. For those of you who have nerver heard of a religious movement, cultist organization, please google "Dominionism" it seems that Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin all have deep ties to this organization and are deeply influnced by this organization. Domininionism is a group of religious fanatics that want to circimvent the Constititution of the USA and put into practice, the laws of the Old Testament. Please look it up for yourself. These people are a danger to America as we know it.
Bev - Using your logic (if you want to call it that), Obama needs to pull out all border guards, fences/walls and check points and let the border be open fully for the drug trade.
John, Tucson, AZ
Bev - Using your logic (if you want to call it that), Obama needs to pull out all border guards, fences/walls and check points and let the border be open fully for the drug trade.
John
You just proved why people call T-baggers dumb!!! It's Perry who does not want the fence.
I think it is fair too say since Trick Rick is a hypocrite and liar wants to take credit for job creation and its growing economy; this could be a reason he does not want a fence.
Well, if we decriminalized drugs we wouldn't have the problem now would we....
Funny! Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Fence ridiculous--always was. GoRick (home)
And i was here thinking plaxico buress was crazy for shooting himself in a NY nightclub with his own gun, but low and behold this fool Perry done shot himself in the foot twice in 2 days and is reloading his gun to finish the job maybe tomorrow or by the end of the week. WOW somebody is got to save this guy from himself before he takes down the entire radical wing nut establishment all by himself.
TO: HowDidWeGetInThisMess who wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It doesn't matter, Tea Bagging Republicans only hear what they want to hear, and the rest they just make up.
Why doesn't the Texas Governor hire more people to patrol the border rather than asking for Washington for National Guard?
Apparently, Washington government is good for Texas, but it's bad for Americans living in the other 49 states.
It's no surprise that Texas businesses have received billions in defense contracts over the last decade. If my state received half the money that Texas received in defense contracts and military bases, our unemployment rate would be the lowest in the nation too.
Maybe Governor Perry should focus his citizens instead of telling the rest of us that we should strive to be like the state with the worst credits scores in the country. This isn't 2007 when credit scores were ignored.
Texas received billions in defense contracts over the last decade because that's what States normally get when someone from your state becomes POTUS, not to mention the fact that Bush couldn't put all those billions of dollars he stole from us American Taxpayers in his name alone, now could he?
I would ask Perry, how he'll pay for all the extra troops and border surveillance he'll need to make the border with Mexico 100% secure, since he's going to cut even more taxes and cut the gov't down to nothing?
Pat, less government = less spending = more $$$ for border security.
JFK, prove it. List all Rep presidents that paid down the deficit after Eisenhower (Old style republican). And, Border security is federally funded so..., that is government/taxpayer money.
patHuntingtonNY
You're ridiculous. You expect logic from a pandering pol :-)
Your point is an excellent one.
And
Perry/Bachmann 2012!!! LET god DO IT !!!
He'll reinstate the draft and every able bodied person will get to spend two years on the border making sure none of the drug runners get hassled, while protecting the US from those evil illegals.
There go those stubborn things called "facts" again getting in the way of a Perry soundbite. Open mouth. Insert cowboy boot no. 2. Like Gingrich, this TX buffoon will soon be on a path to nowhere!
Relax folks, Rick will create a big invisible fence. You'll see (or not)...
Not sure what Perry's talking about. I did some searching and the closest I found was a speech on Immigration Reform given in El Paso from May 10 of this year. President Obama did not call the border "safer than it's ever been". It did, however, include the following passage:
www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/text-obama-s-speech-on-immigration-from-el-paso-texas-20110510
JFK,
Less government does not equal less spending, that's a fallacy. That's like saying the short people eat less, or that big people fart more.
less government could equal less $$$ = less service could equal no security.
For all the money Perry would spend on 1,000 National Guardsmen he could go ahead a build a damn wall that would last forever, and personally I don't see what's wrong with building a wall or fence. After all, we DO have 12,000,000 illegal aliens in this country, most of which are from THAT region.
pERRY "thats a with a small "p" folks"
has very little to do with the Serious Improvements along the US Mexican Border.
I wish everyone would let the loons get to their nominating process unencumbered by thinking folks.
As someone else said "you couldn't make this stuff up"
They're libel to shoot each other before the election :)
TO: bob-1805084 who wrote:
"...Not much for the Constitution, huh? Isn't defending the country in the first line of the Constitution?"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes, and the second line says that the United States shall provide for the general welfare of the American People, but half the Republicans never read that far, and the other half thinks that means "welfare check."
On this issue I agree with Mr. Perry. I lived in Laredo Texas in 1968 and 1969. I understand times have changed; but, we freely walked across the border into Nuevo Laredo and back with no problem. Stating the obvious, were there no demand for illegal drugs in the United States huge profits would not be made by dealers in Mexico or the U. S. I suggest a review of our drug laws. As an aside, I love career politicians who continue to rant about government spending and the size of the Federal bureauacy, with no clear plan to actually reduce either. Perhaps their jobs should be the first to go. My suggestion, reduce the Congressional budget by ten percent as a good first step.
Let me get this straight.... No big govenment Perry .. has to be President to protect the border of Texas? What a jackass!!!!!
There is a hot wind blowing out of Texas this year, and it is Governor Foghorn. "Why, yes, I say, the border will be safe. Why certainly, I say, the border will be safe. Why, no, it is not safe under that miserable Obama. Certainly not. I will give that crazy look I have if the border is not safe. I will execute everybody near that border if need be." Now, if Texas would only secede, as Perry has noted it can do, we could let Texas be the buffer zone. And that hot wind really would protect us then.
That AP story was debunked as nonsense months ago -- it's the areas OUTSIDE THE CITIES that are the problem. You know, the places WITHOUT FENCES. Duh.
And then the severed heads starting showing up...
No worries, Obama - the snake oil salesman, will be out in 2012. No more speeches, no more parties, golfing and vacations on the tax payer dime. No more "blame."
This guy is a RINO on immigration. He can't be trusted!
I see some of your supply siders have weighed in again. Are you retarded? George W. Bush gave huge tax cuts to the "job creators" and we as country created the fewest jobs in any decade since WWII. Yes, Jimmy Carter created as many jobs as W in four years. Now, President Clinton RAISED TAXES WITH THE APPROVAL OF GREENSPAN and we had the best jobs creation since the 60's (when government stimulated alot of jobs).
Also, remember W. is really responsible for about 3 million lost jobs in the first six months of Obama's term. No way Obama should be responsible for that car falling off the cliff when it was already airborn as he took the oath. The fact that some stupid aid said that the stimulus program was supposed to hold unemployment under 8% is irrelevant, because that stupid aid should have looked up and seen that unemployment was passing 8% even as she spoke. (Unemployment =8.2% in Feb. '09 and =10.1% by Sept or Oct. of '09. That's a car falling off a cliff.)
Mike Murphy, a Republican strategist, noted on Meet the Press Sunday that Texas has created alot of less than $10 per hour jobs. Hey, maybe his stragegy is to dissolve the border and make us all work for pesos - in a hot polluted wind.